Keir Starmer refuses 10 times to say when he first contacted Sue Gray about Labour job | LBC
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So now it’s Starmer’s fault for Johnson’s illegal parties. When is someone in Johnson’s circle going to just say we messed up. It’s always someone else’s fault. Not me gov. Except you were the government. It’s ridiculous.
@Damian Lee
Oh dear, keep crying because snake Starmer has made Johnson look like he's been stitched up.
I will never be convinced about the outcome of Saint IKEA Starmer's "Beer and Curry party", sorry "work event", wink, wink.
@@dragonfly6908 well he isn’t the prime minister and he wasn’t then either, so trying to defend the indefensible with deflection is ridiculous.
@@dragonfly6908 Cringe, stop deflecting.
Keith Steamer is no more honest. How many pledges has he broken now? And let's not forget his own mini-partygate for which he had his own excuses.
This is more about inability of tories to conceive that someone is capable of doing a job with integrity, honesty and professionalism.
Bob on.
...but can we find that someone.?
@@chatham43 We can, they can’t.
Be under no illusion Sir Starmer is no better than those he is so keen to replace!
What I love about this argument is that the Tories think we'll all forget about the actual evidence - the suitcase, the sick, the swing, the photos, the cover-up, the cynical search for plausible deniability... like they think they're going to get off on a technicality.
The more they shout, the more we remember...
These events were all the fault oh civil servants who were rightly fined. They worked for Senior bods like Sue Gray. Get over yourselves children and consider yourself schooled by an expert.
@@lestrem11 The tories have had enough of experts remember. I've heard Johnson is in the Guinness book of records, he once told the truth.
@@royboy565 Ah, you are back to stalking me again child. It didn’t end well for you last time did it? I am no fan of Boris but to pretend Starmer is any different is ludicrous. But then you are……have fun at school tomorrow child.
@@lestrem11 Didn't end well for you. Your comments are ill thought out, here say, whataboutery and basically lies. Any child in the old junior school could outsmart the trembling trem.
Nor will we forget Keith Steamer lying and breaking all party rules to remove and keep out Corbyn. Neither will we forget him dismissing the Forde Report that he commissioned when it didn't back his version of events.
They still did all those things in the report, what difference does it make? They aren't sorry, they're only sorry they got caught and this reaction from the Boris cult just shows this.
Your right so why did he go into repeat mode
@@martinseal1987 I haven't a clue. Only thing I can think is perhaps other candidates won't be happy with the process, especially if they had wasted time on interviews etc when Kier had been tapping up Sue for months and was always going to give her the position if she wanted it? Only thing that comes to mind which isn't on the dodgy side. He did say it would be released in future as well.
@@martinseal1987 Maybe he wants to keep it in the headlines, keep Party gate at the front of the public's mind as long as possible and keep the Tories saying absolute garbage and making themselves look like conspiracy nuts for as long as possible, then drop the dates to show there was 0 connection while Sue was doing the report?
Yh I've heard this take, I'm not sure he's playing 4d chess here
@@martinseal1987 He did have a little glimmar is his eye like all will be revealed. I don't know ofc but wouldn't surprise me if it was a tactic to keep this in the media. Have the Tories jump on it like crazy, then Labour to squash it and make them look a bit silly.
I dropped my Labour membership about 6-8 months back, feel very disillusioned by the actions of Mr Starmer
Starmer isn't the best leader Labour could have chosen.
He asked her before the Boris finding--it's so obvious
@@michaelathanasiou2030 Keep crying and lying tory boy.
Sue Gray did her report waaaay before any job discussions would’ve happened. The suggestion she would’ve been swayed is total BS, not only because of that, but because of how it needed to match up with police findings.
You're right so why did he go into repeat mode
@@martinseal1987 agreed he could have easily said a month ago or X months after the report.
He could have said he couldn't say, that it was private, that it's irrelevant, the repeat mode thing makes him look like this is what he'll be like in office
do you like work for starmer somehow?
You're right, it's BS, but this appointment still gives the Tories an open goal to claim impropriety so it was an unwise decision.
Boris and Co. still did everything we've seen in the pictures etc etc so why are they clutching at straws?
What pictures?
@@lestrem11 the photos of the parties in lockdown / while restrictions were in place...
@@justin-tyme That was Starmer and Rayner you muppet. Have you been living on the moon?
@@lestrem11 you’ve chosen not to remember all of those pictures of Johnson then. As I’ve said on another thread, you are beyond deluded.
@@mcgoverg1 he's just a troll... Shouldn't have fed him going by his idiotic question.
Who’s cares apart from boris lovers
His broken the ministerial code ( Boris resigned for the same reason) where's his integrity
@@michaelathanasiou2030 "His broken the ministerial code" - Has he?
@@michaelathanasiou2030 Based on the lack of evidence in some of your other comments. I'd like some evidence on this claim. You say he has broken the ministerial code, then show us how. There should be clear evidence for this. Either you have broken the law or you haven't.
@@uqs57bju Tory boy knows he hasn't broke any code, he is just desperate for any wrongdoing by Starmer. He banged on about Starmer and beer gate and kept quiet when the police cleared him. He is just a desperate tory.
@@michaelathanasiou2030Boris resigned following the Pincher incident. Nothing to do with him "possibly" intentionally breaking the ministerial code.
Comrade Starmer is full of it! He should be ‘working’ at LBC!😂😂😂
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔
not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
Most enlightening. I see nothing for Ferrari to laugh at, which say's something about one of us. On Starmer not answering questions - what's new ? He's another Blair.
Even if Sue Gray applied to labour prior to her doing the report, wasn't it Boris that selected her. She didn't go out of her way to do the report. She was selected. Also, THE PARTIES ACTUALLY HAPPENED. What! Are the Tories suggesting that she made up these parties that they somehow had to come out and admit happened even though they didn't. Laughable and embarrassing
It's part of an employment contract so her permission may be required to divulge full details....
Yes, she is about to divulge to the gov't watchdog, rather than to media. Sir Keir is right to defer.
Even more suspicious if her contract prevents SOMEONE ELSE from saying when they met her.
@@trevorberridge6079 not in the slightest, your employment details are yours not those of the general public, that's why 30p got so much grief for giving out an employee's circumstances... Would you like your employer to give out your details?
Oh so when Downing Street were literally throwing daily parties during lockdown I should just get over it, but when a civil servant changes jobs I’m supposed to be outraged? Only an absolute idiot would fall for that one
ofc comments are turned on for him.
"We have changed the Labour party" Yes, you've driven hundreds of thousands of members to give up on the party and leave.
Errr sure thing, mate. You going to vote Tory then? There's no one with decent values and a brain who will vote Tory at the next election.
@@mrdaveythebaby Darling.. starmer is a rightwinger.. you will have conservatinve labour party so with election change will be only cosmetic
@@mrdaveythebaby Nothing could convince me to vote Tory at the next election after the damage they've done to this country.
@@mrdaveythebaby Least of 2 evils. Fantastic what a great choice we have.
@@chrisj9700 you should check your head mate. Communist? antisemitic? did you drink some lead paint as a child ?
Sue Gray working for Labour does not in any way change what she reported on in Partygate - she didn't make anything up she simply reported it. I don't care when she was approached by Labour!
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔
not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
...Gray was appointed by the tories as an independent investigator, not Labour. We were told a thousand times by the tories that she was independent. The police independently investigated the parties and issued 126...yes, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX fines to tory staff, including Johnson and Sunak. The 'Abba' party wasn't investigated. Gray needs a job and Starmer knows the law. Nuff said...
@@chrisj9700 It's been disclosed now. Are you suggesting that all public investigations are to be conducted by people without any political views, or with only right wing views? You'd have trouble finding anyone. Also, the tories selected her because she is trustworthy. She is no longer in post and can work for anyone she wants. This is no scandal....if it is,we all need to look at Dido Harding and where our 32bn went. Also, at the Met Police under tory plant C.Dick who fined 126 tories, independently of the Gray report, but who didn't investigate the Abba party which was entirely down to Johnson and his wife...
@@chrisj9700Except her report is genuine because it matches the police report following an independent investigation - tories can’t and won’t be allowed to wriggle out of this one.
@@chrisj9700 allegations of bias is just that.. allegations. She didn't make up the photos or put words in workers mouths or make up the damning what's app messages of the Downing Street staff. Tories are desperate and it shows. Makes them look even more guilty.
@@chrisj9700 Clutching at straws with that nonsense comment? She toned down her report at the request of Johnson's cronies. How on earth was she biased. The Old Bill issued 126 fines. Where they biased as well? Pathetic.
@Chris J what conflict of interest?
He also doesn't know the difference between a man and a woman.
I think the general problem is that the politicians are unable to give a straight answer, to a straight question, and I think that has led to a general mistrust of all politicians that politicians don’t seem to grasp that there can be no ambiguity in their answers anymore. Otherwise, they all look as bad as one another, also remembering that Kia Starmer is also a former prosecuting lawyer, It’s just that they are going to lose all credibility if they don’t step up to the Mark and see what’s what
Peter Edmondson Entirely agree at this stage he for one should be much better than this by now. If it's a deliberate ploy to keep the focus on the events of 2 years ago & make them look silly down the line when the actual truth comes out well that makes some sense but we don't know the reason for this obfuscation to be sure.
"nothing improper". 7 times. That would suggest to anyone that something improper is going on
Take a shot every time Kier Starmer says "Nothing improper"
Rees-Mogg, Dorris and co are all on video saying how integral Sue Gray is (she was a Tory for 12 years). Now she's delivered her damning report, they're crying as usual and lying.
Just as Steamer (as in Steaming Pile) is trying to bury the Forde Report.
We are dealing with traitorous individuals here, and those of the Labour 'woke' party, are by far the most dangerous people in this country. We all remember that Starmer and those others on the opposition front bench were fanatical Corbynites, they now expect people to believe they have changed ... they HAVEN'T!
@@trevorberridge6079 if you have to explain it it doesn’t work.
If you thought her investigation into the several parties, which the police acted upon with full confidence, was somehow improper or ‘tainted,’ then your first logical move would be to ask for a new investigation into those parties, not into her. But of course all that would do is remind everyone of how awful Boris is.
Funnily enough bringing it all back into the headlines hardly helps Boris!!!!
Yes Boris was awful but unfortunately so is Kier. Boris and his dad is not as dad as Kier and the monster Tom Watson…..
@@lestrem11🙄
@@CharltonCharles You don’t even know who Tom Watson is do you? He is a monster who Starmer promoted for two years in an insane bid to make him a peer. Keep up child.
@@lestrem11 if you truly believe that Starmer is worse than Johnson you are beyond deluded. Knowing all that we know about Johnson, never
mind what is yet to come out, he is demonstrably the worst thing that has happened to democracy in this country
Oh, so it was Starmer that appointed her and forced her upon Johnson and the Tory Party was it? ERm,No, it wasn't Starmer nor anyone in the Labour party who appointed SG to produce the report, it was Johnson who appointed her, he had full backing of his party. Don't forget though Johnson did prevent her report from being published in full. At some point the truth about the totally shambolic handling of the pandemic will come to light, unfortunately, those responsible will be long gone from politics and more than likely living in other countries, benefitting from the spoils of their political careers, in a place where they cannot be held responsible for their despicable actions.
scumbags, the lot of 'em
It has been reported in the media that there is a photo of Saint IKEA Starmer standing next to Sue Gray's activist son. This photo was allegedly taken during the "Party Gate" inquiry.
@@dragonfly6908 Just to add.Boris is and always has been a liar, that's just FACT not a labour conspiracy. He's been sacked from EVERY job he's had for lying and cheated on every partner he has had so it doesn't need a report to see what he is
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔
not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
Excellent demonstration of 'methinks he protesteth too much'. I wonder what he could be hiding.
You can't deal with work matters in private companies on whatsapp. Policies against this. Ridiculous how they think you can do it in a government.
If their is nothing improper ,then just tell the truth! Why come across shady and dodging the question???
Sorry Nick - you'll just have to wait for The Sue Gray Report .🤣🤣🤣
Ah genius ! 👏
👏👏👏
But the BORISKI'S APPOINTMENT OF THE BBC CHAIRMAN DOESN'T STINK??
THE BORISKI APPOINTMENT OF THE BBC CHAIRMAN ABSOLUTELY REEKS!!!!!
Time for Saint IKEA Starmer to be wheeled out to grass.
Let’s see more tories on James O’Brien
They wouldn't dare, James would have their metaphorical trousers around their ankles in minutes!
@@Jonnyonthespot123 Oh yep. So let's hope we don' t actually 'see' them... that would be two wriggly worms in one person., if male....
That would be wonderful to witness . But O'Brien is too clever for them .. he would rip them all to shreds
@@richybatty234 Absolutely! ... but.. One of the reasons it would be wonderful to witness' also one of the reasons they tend to shy away from JOB.
After the watershed - the blood and entrails would be too much for daytime.
I suspect he'd discussed it with her some time ago and then stopped whilst she was undertaking her investigation
What people don't get clearly Stammer has worked with Sue and knew Sue way before the enquiry and even he has said he knew Sue time ago. People are complaining about conflict of interest. Set that aside as I totally see nothing wrong with the appointment at all but are we going to ignore the evidence and facts from her findings are still there Boris was partying it up and he mislead parliament 😂😂😂
civil servants can end up serving multiple governments.
Quite the chance gray was in when labour were last in.
It's fine. Nothing to see here
All our politicians are
Just terrible. They all took lessons from Nixon.
Tories are desperate to denigrate Sue Gray's report and save Boris! Not going to work - even with Nick Ferrarri's help.
How is Nick Ferrari helping the tories??? He's not even an MP
... so why did not Starmer answer the question?
Right out of the Mandelson/ Blair play book.
People are acting like the report was based on Sue Grays personal opinion of the Tories when it’s actually based on overwhelming picture and witness evidence! I heard one commenter say had this been a criminal investigation the perpetrators would have had no choice but to plead guilty.
The fact that people find impropriety here is astonishing.
This was a Trainwreck such an easy thing to do, why were comments turned off for that video and not this one?
But it's OK for Boris Bunter's father to gt a knighthood?
Well they gave your dad Tom one didn’t they? And he is a monster ( and Kiers boyfriend).
war criminals and paedophile's only
I see Starmer still can’t answer a direct question.
I don't think he's allowed to say in this case as it involves Sue Grey and it's about her privacy. The headline is not very fair.
Starmer really needs to wake up - the days of refusing to answer a simple question by transparent deflection are over.
Tell that to every tory minister.
Great stuff.
Tell them nothing for a while, let the torys make their obvious idiotic & totally hypocritical smears (Frost anyone?) & later on let the facts come out.
Politics done right.
....and you are aware of the facts...?
@@chatham43 I do know that you only have to watch the video to see Starmer clearly say that he approached Sue Gray long after she finished her report.
He didn't give details, he said that was her business & up to her.
It'll drag out a while yet, give it plenty of time & let the torys heap a ton or 2 of the inevitable egg that's going to land on their faces.
Frost (& several others) just proves what hypocrites those torys are.
Here's a video of the leader of the Labour Party lying.
Tories can't imagine anyone jot being as corrupt as them...
He refused to answer the question, keep up child.
You can always easily tell when Starmer's lying.
His lips move.
& that, ladies & gentlemen, is why Baz is not a comedian
regardless of where he stands on the matter we need Keir (who he thinks is the next primeminister) to be transparent.
I was quite high on him when he started out but a bunch of 180's and interviews like this has certainly changed my mind about that. I won't vote Tory and never have but Labour are only a few pegs along the same rung IMO. Things just wouldn't be as bad.
He is being transparent. Do investigators all have to be tory supporters? If Gray had been offered a job by the tories, would there be any complaint and would we ever get to know about it? Also, wasn't it the tories who appointed Gray to do the investigation. This is absurd tory desperation....
@@binkyboobosh1 agreed BUT why is he making himself look guilty by not being direct with a simple question. Doesn’t encourage trust all that much…
@@TimMcKnight He doesn't deserve trust. The Tories are toast but what a shame we only have the realistic option of replacing them with this 2 faced, backstabbing Tory in red.
Anyone who doesn't believe he is just as bad do some more digging into how he politically assassinated others to climb his way to the top. A Tory trait through and through.
But will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔
not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
I’m too old not believe the opposite when I hear “nothing improper” occurred when it gets repeated that often 🤔.
But you may be too old.
@@ArtyFactual_Intelligence too old to fall for BS no matter who is shovelling it: already stated. I was inclined to think Gray probably chose sides after having to survey the rot in Downing St. I don’t think this interview put anything to rest, for me quite the opposite.
Yes in the abscence of facts. Make up your own. Perhaps nothing improper occurred? Did that occur to you?
@@davidsmith5523 tbh I didn’t think there was anything improper until hearing the repeated, specific denial that there was. Indeed there may be undisclosed reasons for details not to be aired at this stage; Kier is often ‘legalistic’ in his speech, being laudably careful with his words. At best though, it was naive interview technique.
Also… for the record, I don’t much care; it’s an imperfect world, and I think both Gray and Starmer represent public service far better than the current incumbents.
This is just a cynical observation that everything is in shades of grey 🙂.
@feekygucker I understand all of that, but it's our impatience and the demands of the insatiable media st play here. Nick is pursuing an agenda. To imply impropriety. Starmer is holding him at bay by giving NOTHING away. We are conditioned by the media to probe for probing sake. To be impatient. It fuels anger and adrenaline thus sells advertising time. I'm willing to wait. Yes we could be lied to. But we can judge at that point. To prejudge now would reveal our bias or prejudice, not necessarily a truth. I know that I do not know. But time will tell. For me the Conservatives such as Rees-Mogg and Gove come out of this far worse as they told us that Sue Gray had the highest integrity, right up until the very microbsecond that she delivered a report that they did not like. Frankly, a report that was utterly damning to them. So does this procedural thing matter compared to all that has gone before? Not to me. Does having someone as high calibre as Sue Gray overseeing the doings of the Labour Party matter. To me it's a creditable appointment. It suggests integrity of intent. Did Nick recognise that at any point? To me that matters more.
My take on this morning
Starmer wants this debate on Sue Grey to continue
It looks to me like he wants this line of questioning to carry on a little more
He thinks he’s on solid ground in all this I suspect he’s right about that
After all
We all have eyes ears and memory
Sue Gray has credibility.
Bojo has None
I will never be convinced about the outcome of Saint IKEA Starmer's "Beer and Curry party", sorry "Work Event", wink, wink.
@@dragonfly6908 That says more about you
Meanwhile Johnson wants to give his dad a knighthood...
Well Starmer gave his boyfriend one…..
I don’t care if he refused or failed to answer when he approached her, he is the former head of the justice prosecution service and has not been found guilty of one single misdemeanour, his recruitment I suggest, was because he saw an honest person who has done her job and exposed a serial lier, cheat, parasite who wormed his way into positions of power after being sacked as an MP and is still trying to plead innocence, no smoke without and if your at the pointy end as much as Johnson has and still is, I would suggest that it’s a brilliant appointment, Johnson, Hancock, Rees Mogg, Baker, are corrupt as are many others and they as Johnson once said on TV interview, I start so many issues like a grenade, that sends out shrapnel, no one knows where to go or which to follow.
This is the most corrupt inept government that has shown itself to be self serving and as seems to be the pattern forming in these situations, the fingers are being pointed at a man who has the political skill and tenacity to end this disgusting virus that is ruining the U.K. and it’s citizens. DG former Conservative voter of 50 years until 2015 I am a fit and healthy 72 year old male
Would it be in the public interest to know who sponsored Kier Starmers, by invitation only, membership of the Trilateral Commission?... I think it would...
Russians sponsor the tories as well as dodgy business men.
Starmer tells more lies than Boris
Why does he now look dodgy ? Bye not answering a question? What's he hiding
Labour can never be allowed to be in power
Keir Starmers dad was a tool maker. He made tools.
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔
not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
Actually Keir, it was your opposition to Brexit which caused the 2019 Labour defeat. Jeremy Corbyn almost won in 2017 when the voters trusted Labour on Brexit. The MSM had been giving Jeremy Corbyn a hard time, but when people were able to get a more balanced view during the election campaign they voted for Jeremy. You have been getting an easy ride Keir and _'as it happens'_ the voters will getting a more balanced view of you at the next election campaign.
Corbyn gets slandered 24/7 but Starmer get the kid gloves from the billionaire owned media I don't wonder why.
we never see anything about the Forde Report in the "news" only the Gray.
Anyone wanna see an evasive piece of slime trying to pass itself off as a man of integrity?
What kind of answer is that? Does he realise how shifty that sounds?
What does it matter.. he didn’t have the foresight to realise this would play against Labour to hardline Boris fans.
Starmer knew exactly what he was doing. Partygate is in the news again and when the date of contact comes out the tories will look like mugs.
but will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔
not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
Why is that important to know
Seems important enough to avoid answering...
Boris is on the look out for a Knighthood for his father to supplement the House of Lords seat for his brother and the tories think that Sue Grays possible appointments by the Labour Party is questionable!
but will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔
not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
I’m not sure people really care about that. It’s like me saying to my bosses boss “I want their job” - it’s ambition and pretty pointless to discuss
Why exactly has Starmer put Jeremy Corbyn... (a politician who drives the support, coming from the Labour base) ...outside of the Labour party?
The Sue Grey report was published in January 2022, his former Chief of Staff left in October 2022, so he wasn't looking for a Chief of staff until way after the report so why is this even a thing?
I suspect Starmer is going to allow it to reach a crescendo then make everyone look a bit daft by allowing Sue Grey to release it.
Beer and Korma anyone did we forget that too like the fact that Mouthy Rayner was in Durham aswell or is that a spell of the Krankie amnesia
You mean the one the police found no case to answer. That one?
@@royboy565 Durham police and Liabilty Liebour police and crime commissioner I don’t think I need to say anymore.
he's so slimey, it's disgusting
He is obviously lying as he cant answer a simple question..., he knows but he wont say because it IS improper
He did say when, after his previous Chief of Staff resigned in October 2022 and after some time considering his position. After this he recently contacted Sue Gray, so a long time after her Report into Partygate was concluded. I am no great Starmer fan, but this is just Tory Clickbait.
Here comes the flip flopper who constantly turns everything around.. Like a stuck record with not a single piece of honest substance, he's such an hypocrite is Starmer I mean come on..
He can't even answer questions on anything with straight answers, it's like he's still a lawyer not a PM to be.
Keir Starmer is only using the same methods as that lot do all the time.
And MPs wonder why they aren't trusted...
100% there was something improper.
With Johnson and his parties in number 10 definitely.
Hahaha pleb tory gammon
So you can tell us what it is then?
I'm a bit shocked he didn't anticipate the question and there fore know when he asked her.
I'm pretty sure that keeping this debate alive is the whole point..
The Tories are shouting about the parties, reminding the public of it again.
I'm shocked that the possibility that the answer nothing innsproptiate has occurred is not satisfactory.
He said after the position became vacant in October 2022
Corbyn's response was incompatible with the change I was bringing about where it's only me that gets to not acknowledge questions relating to improper conduct.
that's not what the billionaire owned media is telling you to think, stop that now.
only Starmer is approved for you and don't you forget that.
And will even the Tories bring up the Forde Report as a way of discrediting Labour? 🤔
not if it would help the true left, the true opposition as we will see.🤫
I think this translates to:
'I had conversations with Sue and had my eye on her becoming my chief of staff years ago. During the investigation into partygate I had no interaction with Sue but waited until after her report was published to approach her about thr position'.
I like Kier, but he should have just answered the question
The answer to the question should be irrelevant, as Sue Gray was approached by Johnson to conduct the inquiry into whether or not he, himself, had attended any parties with some of his subordinates during lockdown. Johnson however, could have been double bluffed into making the wrong choice in Sue Gray. Maybe that's next...
I believe the point is that Sue Gray was not allowed to talk to opposition party members as of civil service rules unless it is approved. If she did so, and broke civil service rules, it goes to her integrity. I don't think anyone is actually suggesting she was being told what to write in the report, just her actions may indicate a lack of integrity and possible bias.
The replacement liar. Can't wait.
So, we have two former party leaders being ousted from UK politics - I wonder who these anti-EU UK politicians could have annoyed?
Looks like Sue has broken 4 sets of Acoba rules they are saying 👀
I don't get what the problem is with this appointment?
Tony Blair 2.0
Why didn’t Nick have Boris on his show asking how many parties he attended at Downing Street ?
How these politicians crawl is spectacular
Explain how he is crawling?
Anyone else noticed that a lot of local items have the comments section blanked so you can't give your opinion
Just following the process a la Rishi !!! Not right to pre- evidence the correct Parliamentary process.
the tories are desperate to make a meal out of sue gray because she knows where the bodies are...
I don't think anyone cares about the hiring, she's not exactly working for Starmer while keeping her old position.
But Starmer really chose the worst possible way to deal with this question, I don't think he could have made this thing look more shady.
Get the public inquiry put to bed within a year from now, that's what;s needed. I'm sure there was nothing improper, just answer the question Starmer.
nothing on the Forde Report i see. 🤔
Wait, but was there anything improper?
its never improper when you have stomething to hide
Its obvious it was improper. I mean what an idiot?? Hundreds of people in the civil service and he picks her.
Boris Johnson father took French citizenship and stays there most time so why should he be given a Knighthood
The main point some Tories are pushing is groundless and smacks of desperation, given Johnson has taken to question the Sue Gray report and any findings of the Privileges Committee his own government set up, remember it was Mr Johnson himself who selected her to head the inquiry, praising her as a woman of unimpeachable character, a view shared by R.Mogg and numerous other Tory Ministers, she was chosen, after Simon Case, ( His favoured pick) a Tory cabinet secretary, had to recuse himself after it emerged that he himself had attended at least one of the gatherings under suspicion, ( nice try Boris ) The Privileges Committee has seven members (including the chair). Conservative MPs are in a majority on the committee, with four MPs, two Labour MPs (one of whom currently chairs ) and one SNP MP all vetted and agreed on to do their duty in a honest and transparent way by current serving government officials. The P.C have reiterated no one will not be using or reviewing either the Met or the Sue Gray Report to arrive at their findings and state their assessment and decisions will be based solely on the statements of 23 eyewitnesses who attended the gatherings, the No 10 official photographer, 100's of text, WhatsApp messages, £00 plus photographs and evidence supplied by HMS Government itself.
The government were awful during the pandemic...as were pretty much every government around the world, except Sweden. Do I think the Labour government would have done any better...no way!
@Zory2871 whereas Starmer just tinkered round the edges of what the government did. Note that the PM is not the only person in government and does not attend all COBRA meeting. Finally, I have already said the government were awful.
Wait until they (the media, Tories, Boris) blame Sue Gray for the Downing ST debacle.
Nic hasn't discussed that masks are no use and data now proves it as for starmer still won't for this man