Theory Time: What is Deceit’s Master Plan?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
  • Hello everyone! I know times are very difficult during this Covid-19 quarantine as well as anticipation for the next Sanders Sides, so I wanted to make a light hearted video for people to pass the time. While watching my friend Erin’s Sanders Sides Prediction video, (link will be placed below), I got back in theory mode! I felt there was one episode in particular that holds more secrets than meets the (snake) eye: “A New Year of Lying To Myself.” Could this video hold Deceit’s master plan? What else is Virgil hiding? Find out all that in more in this grand (and very long) THEORY VIDEO!!!
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  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bree: a new year of lying to myself...
    Everyone else: what the. heck. that is not what I was expecting to happen at this meeting. today

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ariana Sim 😂😂😂😂

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CamRunsonFandoms ooh, cupcakes!

    • @theniupdoesstuff6526
      @theniupdoesstuff6526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello friend i see you flooding the comments section here

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theniupdoesstuff6526 HI!!!!

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theniupdoesstuff6526 Do you like my Frozen/ Roman theory? I think I worked harder on that then I did in English. I also did it without any preparation or planning, so I think it is pretty good. for what I had.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    14:15
    Virgil's singing is still underappreciated.

  • @alecbrown7413
    @alecbrown7413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    im just gonna say it..Thomas is a theater person not riffing is practically illegal.
    also this is kinda like the theory I had and good job with all the evidence and stuff, You did great.
    (p.s. love the divergent poster its so cool)

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alexdoesthings Duh! And riffing is like..kinda his thing! haha Also awww!!! 💖😭🥺🥰 Thank you so much!! This was my first theory so I was hoping I did a good job! And finding the clips for all the evidence was just like ahhhhhhh but also totally worth it. 😂 (Also thanks for noticing! I think it’s a pretty nifty poster myself 😊)

  • @flopilla2012
    @flopilla2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omg wait- I see you all the time on Thomas' comments, I'm glad I found your TH-cam Channel

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Florencia Allimant Omg! seriously!! ahhh!! that is so cool!!! I’m glad you found my small corner of youtube! 😊

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    21:30
    yes Thomas, you are a good person. everybody says so.
    -Deceit Sanders

  • @happynonsense8500
    @happynonsense8500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Woah. That’s actually such a good theory. That completely alters the way I’ve been seeing these episodes. Woah🤯

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And with that...everything changes! OooOOOoooOOh! Also I’m so glad you like it 😄

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    okay, why Frozen is Roman's favourite movie.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why Virgil was powerful, and still can be: As character Thomas said afterwards, Virgil was loud, and we naturally want the loud noises to stop because of our fear of being hurt by them. He also represents Thomas's anxiety, so he has full control over that, and as we see in accepting anxiety part 2, Virgil can have an effect on the sides, a large one, and because the sides are Thomas, that means Thomas is affected as well. Even the smallest thing like when Logan told Roman he thought he saw a spider behind him can cause anxiety, even if they are not in his room. In the change episode, Patton suddenly gets anxious and instead of turning to Logic, he turns to anxiety, because Virgil was the one who seemed to know the answer because he pointed out the problem, causing anxiety to Thomas and Patton.
    I don't know if any of that makes sense, but essentially, what I'm trying to say, is yes, Virgil has quite a bit of Power over Thomas and the other light sides.
    why does it feel like I should be submitting this to one of my teachers now?

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ariana Sim Yep, you are very right in all of
      this. Virgil is very powerful

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CamRunsonFandoms BOW TO VIRGIL, THE ALL-POWERFUL BEING WHOM IS THE ONLY PERSON/ SIDE WITH AN EXTREME HOLD OVER OUR SAVIOUR, THOMAS SANDERS.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this made me smile.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    and then the paranoia...
    I'll stop.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    32:44
    his mind could figuratively break. He could go mad.
    Wait... Thomas could go mad...
    NOOOOO!!!!!!

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    34:11
    OMG. I called it! if oly this was the real episode, but instead of you talking it was Thomas and the sides, The episode would make itself.
    I love this Theory.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    24:00
    who will he send next?
    my orange theory:
    1. opposite of Logan, even the colour is the opposite of practical for him
    2. what I think it is? PATHOLOGIC.
    (not the game that came up when I double checked this)

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:11am, make a wish

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:04
    Deceit is the red thing on Thomas''s shelf.
    *nods importantly*

  • @quincythefancyowl6109
    @quincythefancyowl6109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this omg

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quincy The fancy owl Thank you so much! 😄❤️

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why Frozen is Roman's favourite disney movie:
    Firstly, Roman can relate to the chracters, as well as all the motifs in this.
    I'll finish later, I'm going to finish watching the video first

  • @hannamills1985
    @hannamills1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg the hat thing is genius

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      theater cosplay productions awww, thank you!! Erin and I thought that Roman probably talked to Deceit, and I added the powers part 😊

    • @hannamills1985
      @hannamills1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CamRunsonFandoms makes sense to me I don't know they seem they have that chemistry

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      theater cosplay productions a little bit, yeah

    • @hannamills1985
      @hannamills1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CamRunsonFandoms well at least from Romans perspective I don't think he would even consider that deceit would be playing him

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    :0 *le gasp*
    my first thought while watching the song was that the red thing on the self was Deceit in disguise. 😂
    But the first few minutes blew my mind. wow.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    * character Thomas

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so, first Characters. lets start with the two main ones, Anna and Elsa. (sorry for any typos coming) Anna, is a girl who has been shut out and cut off from what could be considered her other half, because we see how close Elsa was to her before the incident, where Anna had to forget. Anna is someone who had to grow up almost alone due to the fact that her only playmate was locked away from her. She also lost a lot, from her sister, to her parents back to Hans, (because she did love him, until he broke her heart) and she even lost herself. Roman could relate to that because *he* was cut off from his brother when he was young, and who knows, maybe things would have been different if Roman and Remus got along. Roman has always been the eccentric one of the bunch, making him stand out, quoting from him, "standing out can feel outstanding sometimes." so he would know what it is like to be different to others. Because of this, Roman being eccentric and Logan not liking that, he would have been almost alone because Patton would have had to choose between them. In the moving on episode, part 1, Roman also said that in their teenage years, Virgil became a giant thorn in their side (s) so they would have more problems then, what with Thomas discovering his identity and struggling with who he was, like Anna. one of the only things Roman probably couldn't relate to was her being a little girl even though Thomas has said to consider him as his more feminine side.

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roman and Elsa is above

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:01
    wow,that scared me. I did not expect a Thomas in my face then. especially not at 12:10 am. eek

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me before Thomas: yeah. carrots are okay.
    Me after Thomas: I DESPISE CARROTS, YES, I DECIDED THAT NOW
    I am not an individual anymore

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    and Motifs,
    I can stop if you want.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And Elsa, Roman would have even more to relate to. She has the most character growth in the movie, and she has to discover her identity faster then most children do. Roman, at a young age was split off from Remus, suddenly having all the creativity considered as important, *having a power larger then he wanted at a young age.* he also will want isolation sometimes, though that point sounds lame. he said "sometimes we need to make like Elsa and lay low in our kingdom of isolation". This is my theory on Roman Sanders, and I will get to how it relates to Frozen in a bit. Roman has always been viewed as creativity, and expected to produce ideas for character Thomas, not only on a regular basis, but all the sides expect it to be good quality as well. Roman says in multiple episodes that he doesn't like beig criticized because he is doing the best he can, like in the Christmas episode, and the Puppet one, he is disregarded. in the puppet one, he starts the song, and then asks for permission to come back in, and when Virgil says "no-one hates you", he looks down, unconvinced. Roman has serious self esteem issues, when he pops up once, he said somethjing I can't remeber, (I know, bad for my argument) and then said "oops, (insert word I can't remember here) slip" which is when someone accidently says something they didn't mean to, but is true, like when Patton said, "hey guys, I'm sad" instead of 'dad'. Every time Roman gets into an argument with Virgil, he is the one who has to APPAologise (PICANI), even though Virgil causes as much harm to Roman through his words as Roman did to him. Elsa is constantly Villainised, when she is trying her hardest to be good enough, as she struggles with the powers she didn't ask for, them plaguing her life and hanging like a shadow over her, like Remus for Roman, ruining her childhood, and even her early adult years. She is constantly blamed for things she has no control over, and then there is the expectations from royalty that weighs more heavily on Elsa then it does for Anna.

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ariana Sim WOAH!!! THIS IS SO GOOD!!!!

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CamRunsonFandoms ?

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CamRunsonFandoms what, you mean like ALL THE CONTENT YOU CREATE OR REACT OR EVERYTHING ON YOUR CHANNEL?

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sorry...

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CamRunsonFandoms should I keep going for motifs and the rest? or not. I am kinda clogging the comment section...

  • @7st4rcigs
    @7st4rcigs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Bree, I really like the format of the video that you made, but here's a tip: Can you speak louder while recording videos? I can't really hear it and I need to put my volume to a high level.
    Thanks! Love your videos regardless!

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for you critique, and I do know I talk very quietly, and I try my best to raise the volume during editing. This problems comes for two reasons: I have a naturally quiet voice, and the walls in my house are very thin, so I talk quieter to compensate for that. Hopefully I can fix this problem in the future with my own volume.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    35:56
    yes, Everyone hates Patton because of DWIT. except for us people, who dislike him because of S vs S

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:00
    it kind of disturbed me seeing Thomas eating like this even though I have seen this episode a thousand times. 😂

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ha...
    I've embraced Deceit as one of my main sides. no-one actually knows I'm up right now except you

  • @youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186
    @youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My only problem with this theory is that it probably disproves Pinxiety, but that’s just my opinion because I feel like you’re right and I don’t want you to be😂

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well not necessarily, it happens all the time in movies and tv shows where the person who’s meant to attack someone ends up either liking or befriending them, I was just stating it was a clever way for Virgil to slip into the light sides without much question considering Roman is such a judgey person overall. If, let’s say, Logan was the other one in the video, he might question Virgil more than just simply being annoyed by his presence.

    • @youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186
      @youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gravity_Falls54612
      True,
      -YESSSSS-

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TH-camr Fan Girl Named Edyn you never know what could happen 🤔🤷🏼‍♀️💖

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a suspicion that Thomas ships prinxiety... (there's proof) even if I don't. I'm just a non-believer that way. sorry.

    • @youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186
      @youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ariana Sim
      Yeah the part where Roman’s like “that’s how I show my love” I LOST IT

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:38
    Just the look on Thomas's face. just that

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    22:28
    and then he sinks out

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like I have done more work in this comment section then I have in 1-2 days of school-in-isolation.

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    31:51
    Creativity/ ego/ hopes and dreams vs emotions and morality.
    Roman could encompass a bit od Deceit as well, because if he *creates* a story, and presents it as the truth, that would be lying, and he would know it. so... Me and Ali Cynical have a theory. yes, sorry, Ali Cynical and *I*

  • @theniupdoesstuff6526
    @theniupdoesstuff6526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi guys this is underrated

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Niup Does Stuff 🥺🥺 awwww thank you!

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    not everything is as it appears...
    woah! Bree can turn into a chair!

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    35:18
    welll...
    fun fact, did you know before my taken name (Skulduggery Pleasant) was Ebony Sanders it was Ebony Vengeance?
    heehee

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 am. the witching hour

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:56
    NOT HYPOCRITICAL AT ALL. like you said, we are talking about Character Thomas, which means this isn't even real Thomas, and you are much younger than him, so character Thomas has had much more time to acquire a date, or get over old ones then you have the legal age for us is like 16, so it is not your fault. Sorry, I might have taken this a bit too seriously.🤗

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      aw thanks for that, I really appreciate it

  • @youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186
    @youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why isn’t the video working

  • @helloitsme4035
    @helloitsme4035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bree are you okay? Your Instagram was deactivated

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am okay. I had to deactivate my accounts for personal reasons, but that's for checking on me. 🥺

    • @helloitsme4035
      @helloitsme4035 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CamRunsonFandoms of course!

    • @helloitsme4035
      @helloitsme4035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CamRunsonFandoms is the project still happening? Sorry for asking

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@helloitsme4035 of course, and which one?

    • @helloitsme4035
      @helloitsme4035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CamRunsonFandoms the newest one

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do you sing?

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ariana Sim sort of

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CamRunsonFandoms cool! me too. except I can't do choir anymore because of coronavirus. I don't take lessons, or anything, but I mostly just sing songs By Thomas or anything related to it/ him

    • @CamRunsonFandoms
      @CamRunsonFandoms  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ariana Sim that’s cool! sorry about not being able to do choir

    • @arianasim4102
      @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CamRunsonFandoms its ok. we mostly sang random songs I didn't like, but I stay because I want to be able to train my voice to well,be better. so I can sing more things by Thomas.🤗

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roman: has to save face no matter what.
    Look at this... Perfectly sums up Roman. almost.
    th-cam.com/video/nZGkf0Rth_w/w-d-xo.html

  • @arianasim4102
    @arianasim4102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi :D