Why Jarrad Branthwaite Is NOT Worth More Than £50m...
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Welcome Everton fans... The response from you lot to my tweet has been electric (they are not happy.) In the original tweet, Branthwaite was pictured alongside some elite centre-backs with some very high ceilings, yet he is the one being quoted for the highest price? Todibo, Araujo, Antonio Silva, De Ligt, Lucami, Tapsoba, Bremer, Kilman, all of the names that were pictured in this post alongside Branthwaite. Today I am going to dive in and show you why Jarrad Branthwaite is not worth what he is being valued at...
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Remember when Evan Ferguson was worth £120m about a year ago? Not sure i've heard his name since.
He's 19 and has had a couple injuries , struggled to find form in a disrupted season for him. You writing him off completely is such a social media age thing to do.
Writing off a 19 year old who scored a hatrick ar 18 is proper tik tok behaviour. As is calling him a £120 million striker off the same performances. Let the lad play, time reveals all.
@@patrickmullins7981how did I "write him off completely"? I'm saying while he was playing well just a year ago, everyone was throwing crazy price tags around for him. Here we are a year later and he barely gets a mention.
This is not a dig at Ferguson, I think he's got a good future. It's a dig at people that get carried away by a decent breakthrough season. People get carried away. Same as Neto back in September when he got 8 assists in the first few weeks, people saying we should get rid of Rashford and bring in Neto, prices of £70-£80m being thrown around. He's gone on to get 2 goals and 1 assist since then.
Your response is pure social media age. Over emotional about an emotionless comment. Quick to defend something without even understanding the point. Go dye your hair blue and join a protest.
@@retrorunner984 see my response to the other guy who's comment you copied almost word for word.
@@patrickmullins7981 ok my first reply to you was deleted for some reason.
But basically I said that this isn't a dig at Ferguson. I happen to think he's got a good future. It's about the ridiculous price tags that get bounded about when a young player has a decent breakthrough. One year on, that hype has fizzled out along with his goals.
The video is about Branthwaite, who's had a pretty decent season. But there's no way he's a £70m player.
Your response is typical of the social media age. Quick to get emotional over an emotionless comment without even understanding the point.
As an everton fan, If you dont want, we will happily keep him.
please don't sell him to us.
I wish our owners hear your call 😢😊
Keep him
Spot on Steve. My dad is 83 on Tuesday. He's been watching united since 1950. He was right off on one when he heard Branthwaite was being linked. He can't stand him. Can't say his exact words on here but he was spot on. I'm sending this to his phone. He'll love how you pointed out what he he's been saying. Well said mate. Never a united player. 👏👏👏
Happy birthday to your dad from me and all real United fans.🎂🍰🧁
Overhyped English
I’ve been saying for weeks Branthwaite was a rip off and I’d questioned his decision making and was slated for it in the comments. Nice to see someone actually giving some thought about him instead of just reading and siding with media bs.
The fact that we didnt sign Akanji for free and is looking at Brathnwaite for £50mil….
Man united have NEVER had a plan in place for their transfer business for the las 10 years! For club of Man united's stature, it's beyond embarrassing! That's why we've overpaid for flops
And also we sign Varane for 40m when Captain Ramos was available for Free
@@prajyotraikar28ramos didn’t want to come tho
Annoying because Akanji is also a United fan
You’ll hate akanji at United. City covers a lot of his deficiencies
Finally someone speaking sense about Branthwaite.. 40 to 50 mil MAX defenders like Silva,Inacio,Todibo,Simakan those are some of the CB that ar WAY BETTER than him !
100%
Only one of those is the left footed CB 10hag loves for his system
Imo, we should go for CBs who play in a more progressive system. Inacio/Diomande from Sporting, Tapsoba/Hincapie from Leverkusen, Hato from Ajax, Scalvini, Simakan (can play CB/RB), Geertruida from Feyenoord. There are so so many options!! Jarrad might develop to be one of the best CBs in the league but the fee demanded and the system he plays currently don't make this signing a sure shot success.
@@TheBatmanWhoReactsNo one’s being bought for Ten Hag’s ‘system’ anymore, mate
He'll never develop to be one of the cbs in the league. @@Aarya-v5n
Finally someone not falling for the hype
He was on the floor more than on his feet against united at o.t. , he's bloody useless.
Being saying this for ages
Any defender on the ground shows no positional sense. Look at Paul McGrath never was on the ground with last ditch tackles
@@derekgraham1570 if you watched him at PSV he looks a complete different player it depends on his system
We will end up getting Maguired again😅
HAS MANU MUG RECRUITMENT ALL OVER IT. 80 MIL TROUSERS DOWN😂
Who’s manu? Don’t he play rugby
@@jimharris1358yeah, in the Gallagher Premiership (as of 2023)
Look, he has some traits, PL experience, set-piece threat, and having a homegrown player helps but the main issue is we don't know whether he is comfortable playing on the front foot. Ofc, with his qualities, he could adapt easily like Rice did from West Ham to Arsenal but for the fee we are paying, it has to be an absolute guarantee. All the world class CBs like Kim (€50M to Bayern), De Light (€70M to Juve), Van Dijk (€75M), White (€55M), Laporte (€65M) and many more have gone for a similar range of fee which Everton would demand. So, would it be wise? For eg, Real Madrid and many other clubs are looking at Yoro who will go for €70-80M. Scalvini, Simakan, Geertruida, Hato, A Silva, Tapsoba and so many options are there. The best decision would be to get 2 CBs in the range of €40-45M (like Todibo) and then for the 2nd CB signing, target cheap/free options like Tosin from Fulham. It's not about getting "world class or big names" but it's about getting the right "profile" in. Our recruitment has to be focused on the latter part. Jarrad would make sense if we sell our English players and get some fee for them, like Maguire for €30M and AWB for €15-20M. So, the net spend would be less and our homegrown quota won't be compromised.
You could make clips of every single defender in the world making what you think are mistakes. Van dijk is making them week in week out. Everton are just outside the relegation places and they have the 4th best defence in the league. Thats crazy. Not all down to branthwaite but he's a big part of it.
This lads a very good defender who's going to get better. The hype has nothing to do with him.
Ste, we need this video on Onana. Too many people are inflating his technical ability
oh thank god someone actaully points this out thought i was the only one. never understood the overwhelming hype
I have been saying that fir ages! One game vs Spurs at Spurs…. In ONE game he let the ball go under his foot three or four times! In one fucking game. Just a shitter Fellaini essentially. At least Fellaini was actually unconventionally ‘tidy’ with his touch
Yep. We need midfielders to dictate, not just tackle
Onana in last years champions league final, showed how we he can get the ball to the strikers consistently, city had no answer to him
@@0ijm3409fiwrekjI think they’re talking about amadou not Andre
Absolutely agree! Have been saying this for ages since the links to Man Utd came, and as a norwegian non-english biased fan, he's just hyped up bc of his nationality as you said.
You are CLUELESS
Not worth paying more than £40m for him. Which means we'll sign him for £70m. BUT Murtough ain't here no more!
naah I'm not selling him for a penny less than 95m. More goals than Anthony :P
To be honest. Only generational defenders are worth above £50m
He is.
He’s English so over priced as per he’s worth 50 at most but Everton want 75 mill he isn’t worth that
I'm so glad you did this video Ste, the 1st thing that stood out to me when we played them at OT is how much he dives in and goes to the ground. People need to stop with the hype over this kid, fucking Maldini? Really? Fuck me
Palmer rinsed him , Haaland left him on his arse , English hype as usual . He’s on Harry Maguires level
People forget he's young, English, fast and has incredible potential he's easily 80 mill. The transfer fee especially for young players represent their potential.
City can have him, I'd rather take Tomori.
Young 80 mil? Why would anyone take an untested youngster for 80 mil?
English tax is a real thing as is homegrown registration rule. With United needing to offload mostly homegrown players, they need to take every single opportunity to bring in home grown talent. That's why Branthwaite will be too expensive and that's why we should be bringing Frimpong in.
TODIBO 40 MIL
Plays well in a team that looks to play long balls against the press... I thought that was the style we want to move away from?
If we are signing a player just because we need to keep our English quota up ide rather go for Guehi at Palace I recon we would get him for a bit cheaper and he's a solid CB. I like Braithwaite but he's been a bit up and down whenever I've watched him for every good thing he does he makes two bad choices, I know he's young but for that money it's a risky move.
Yes, we have been linked to Olise from Palace but instead it should be Guehi who must be the more prior signing from Palace. He has played for England 2-3 times and looked very comfortable on the ball.
That's absolutely right, people are mixing the 2 things, he is not generational, he is a good young talent, but extremely overpriced. At the same time, if his price tag lowers in coming season, him being young, he'll be a good purchase to any stable team that can give him time to develop.
Liverpool want Guehi and will probably get him.
Good plsyer put you can't play him next to martnez hes too small . You can't have 2 tiny centre backs
Exactly ste. Thanks for calling this out. Silva and diomande or todibo are the ones to go for.
We should avoid him at all costs he’s not worth the money and I agree with Ste he’s not all that there are much better and much cheaper CB’s around than him imo
name them (excluding todibo)
@@InfamousWarriorFC ok smartass Todibo Silva Bremer Tapsoba De ligt Kilman Lucumi and Araujo so Yh think I put you in place m8 👌😂
@@jessetaylor4357 i litterally said excluding todibo, and bremer is fucking 27 in his prime and ur comparing him to a 21 year old + we r building the future bremer is out in like 3 years lmao, and if u think chelsea is selling silva ur dumb
@@jessetaylor4357 I said excluding todibo, silva is not going and bremer is 27 they r not youngsters which is what united is looking for + they r in their prime and ur comparing them to a youngster, tapsoba already said he wont leave bayer as he wants to be part of the project, and de ligt snubbed united just like 2-3 weeks ago, kilman is 5 years older too and in his prime, araujo is 100m+ lmao only reasonable one is lucumi
@@jessetaylor4357 no response? haha I owned ur dumbass and put u in ur place
I have commented on him about 4 times since this Branthwaite talk started. I didn’t watch him closely but didn’t see anything great in his matched I did see.
I watched the game at OT though. so decided to watch him closely and he was average. Twice he tried to drive out with the ball but miscontrolled the ball and we broke on them.
If he was not English and not playing already in the Prem, he’d be a decent ‘prospect’ buy at £20m. To have this talk of £60m to even £80m (🤣🤣🤣) is just embarrassing
Who’s here after the news just broke 🤣
Honestly not so sure now after watching this 😬
Completely agree. Names just get elevated for no reason these days.
That's worrying Ste...
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts about Antonio Silva (Benfica) and Giorgio Scalvini (Atalanta).
Nobody mentions scalvini that boy looks like a legend in the making i don't even know if he's for sale if we can get him he would be the perfect replacement for varane
@@ShaunWiesner Fully agree. Really impressed with his IQ and pace after watching several Atalanta games this past season 👍🏼👏🏽
Think he's decent from what I've seen 40m-50m max . Hes certainly not 80m too raw at the moment hes got leadership qualities and decent ability.
I love to see content creators shouting each other out. Let's keep up that vibe
I think it is actually true, he is not worth the hype. Antonio Silva is worth more taking a risk than Jarred. He is bullied easily especially how Halaand exposed him when he bullied him one on one. He is not physically good as Todibo or Tapsoba.
We'll keep him then, go after another defender
He is undeniably a good centre back. He's worth 30 to 40 million in today's market.
However with the English and Manchester United tax he will end up being 80+ million
It reminds me a lot of when we where first being linked with Maguire and you heard all the shite about how he was suppose to be elite with the ball at his feet.
Finally, he is another bang average english defender. We have been stung with Maguire and Shaw and we don’t need another. Rather we got Ignacio.
The price on Branthwaite will obviously be overblown, he is not worth that much money, but he definitely is a good player, but judging by how people are already looking down on him, people will either regret when he joins some other good side in the league and improves, or if he joins us, will incessantly shit on him the way people did on Maguire even when he was alright, and pounced even harder after the Greek incident destroyed his confidence, and the price tag was the major factor in all this. Also, his PSV stint showed more glimpses of him being good in a more proactive side than what regimented approach Dyche needs to make clubs survive and stay in premier league.
Sorry but having watched him over the past season every week he is worth far more 50.
John stones cost city 50mil when they bought him from Everton and jarrad is a far superior cb. He’s calm on the ball doesn’t make big errors ever. Positionally he’s always in the right place and is fast enough to recover when he is out of position.
If he isn’t a 70mil plus defender I don’t know who is because the lad is a mountain. Two more years he will be at one of the biggest clubs in the world.
yup, City will make a bid for 95m or 50m + Ake if they lose the league. United will get out priced like usual and overpay for an unknown from league 2.
he can go to city, united need pacy defenders.
His pass percentage is poor because passing from centre back to midfield is absolutely secondary for Everton and I bet my life on him being adviced to just put the ball long towards dangerous areas where the likes of Calvert-Lewin and Doucoure can flick it or then we can fight for the second ball. That and set pieces is the core of how we play. This passing statistic is entirely on the way team plays. The defending clips, fair play, can't really argue with that actually
As an Evertonian, i totally agree with your analysis. Now please leave him alone and go and sign the new Maguire or Lindelof 👍🏻
Not another Maguire!!!!
This Club will actually be the death of me!!!
Now this is what we call a calculated analysis of a player. Ofc he's a good player with a high ceiling but the hype has gone way too far. This is the problem with most PL viewers too. If a player has one good season, all of sudden he's next big thing.
Totally agree. The moment a young player strings a few decent games together in England the hype begins and players almost overnight are valued at astronomical sums of money. English hype is worse than hype in any other country. Howson needs to send this video to United because we will once again be wasting our money on a player who is going to disappoint. I don't want him even for 30m because I doubt he'll ever be of the standard that we require if we are to return to the top. Big money should only be invested in players who will definitely improve us.
@@shadow_realm47 United is NOT buying. He is 95m now? Tomorrow it will be 100m I suppose. Did you even listen to the analysis presented in this video? Get a mental health check because there is something seriously wrong with your brain.
HANCKO has all branthwaite strengths plus more , cheaper aswell , can play left back and centre back , technical , pro active , physical , can strike the ball well , good in the air , recovery pace , 1v1 solid
If he goes anywhere he'll go to Liverpool
And he’s 5 years older……
@@harrywood6083 thats also fine ...... the whole team dont need to be 20 , 26 for a defender is also young , could get 7 years out of him
too old
@@berserker135 26 is not old
this aint fifa
I could easily put together a video of clips of Martinez making defensive errors like this and you think he's one of the best defenders in the league.
Go on then
Everton fans backing their own player is one thing, twitter tacticos forcing a narrative to make themselves sound smart to their robotic followers is another thing.
*Tosin on a free is a better player and deal.
Well said! For me, Todibo, Tosin + Lucumi for a combined £65m-£70m is the way to go. Brainthwaite is ok but not at the price being quoted. We need to make value for money signings this window.
1. You had loads of ‘nuanced discussion’ in that thread, you just chose to ignore most of it
2. Going all in on FB Ref to try and forge an argument is incredibly silly
3. He is good at progressing the ball. We saw it in Holland, we set it when allows in the PL now.
4. You talk about the ‘eye test’ and then discuss nonsense 60-yard balls into the channel… Everton fans watch him EVERY single week for 90 mins
5. Comparing him to Tarkowski, who is 10+ years his senior, a stronger and more physical presence, who has 400+ more games under his belt… OK. I’ll wait for Tarkowski to make 30,40-yard sprints and defensive tackles then, ay?
6. Quoting people saying he’s like Maldini as if it’s remotely serious… Come on
7. ‘You’ll see this quite a lot with him’ And then shows a clip of something which has happened very rarely this season of him being beat one v one.
8. Recovery positions? When the balls beyond him and into the six-yard box? From a chance Newcastle didn’t even score from? The whole vid is grasping at straws but that’s the funniest yet.
9. ‘He ain’t there’ it was a corner, you pleb.
10. How many times has that burn chance gone into his own net? Instead it doesn’t count and Everton draw the game
Grasping at straws throughout. An absolute stinker
Finally someone addressing this. Hes like a mcsauce defender...
Im sure he has potiential , but he gets caught out soooo many times
Video analysis is a great addition, what would be good is comparing the player to one we're linked to for much less or a player in our squad who's deemed not good enough showing they're better than the target
I came to watch this video back, to ensure I understand your new video on Utd being linked with Branthwaite
YOU PAY FOR THE POTENTIAL. You aren't just paying for the current level of the player because why would Everton sell him when he's a promising player that's not developed
If you think 40-50 mill is a realistic price you're basing your valuation around his current level, not his attributes and ability to develop. He's a fast, strong, physical young player who isn't close to where he will be in 1-2 more seasons
Muppetiers was absolutely convinced he was a serious target, so then I started watching him more closely, and have become more unimpressed as time has passed. I do really like his passing out from the back on his left foot between the lines. That stat is misleading because of the team he is in. I think he's very rash like Bailly just rushing in and getting beaten. He also goes to ground too much. I think there is a player there and some improvement will occur but the 70m price is unrealistic.
Everton have to sell players before July for P&S, so prices might come down for him and Onana.
Bro, you said Amrabat is better deal than Rice
Howson.....you said declan rice wasn't worth £100m max £70m but you've been proved wrong. Maybe you'll be proved wrong about Braithwaite😏
Not really. £100m is a wild figure. £100m for a solid to very good season where you won nothing. £100m signing should take a team from 2nd to 1st. Not 2nd to 2nd.
Feel like because twitter have over hyped Branthwaite Stephen has gone the other way too much to critcise him. Analysing one passage of play when he gets beat by Cole palmer whos been one of the best players in the league this season and Branthwaite was potentially injuried for that 60 minutes because he came off later feels too much. People could do the same for martinez when salah skinned him ... The truth is somewhere in between Stephen and twitter
He's raw but there is real potential there
Agreed, anything over 50m is too much. I'd rather sign Mario Hermoso, Oliver Boscagli from PSV or even Lloyd Kelly as back up to Martinez. I don't see a point in throwing ridiculous money at players when we seen it time and time again, they flop. Martinez is quality when he's fit, Hermoso or Bascagli especially would be quality reinforcement
I think he plays backup LB and backup LCB. At LB he'd be the one that inverts into midfield or stays back during attacks to make a back 3.
Absolutely agree with you on this Ste, he's had a good season but that's it
Gareth Bale and Gary Neville were total laughing stocks when they started out in defense for Spurs and Utd. It takes time for young players to adapt. Only a proper expert like Wilcox can judge Branthwaites ceiling
Nicholas Williams(Spain)LM RM 21y.o.181cm 67kg************50 Mill (Perfect For M.U.
This video from the man who raved about game changing Amrabat, Mount and Onana before they arrived. Also funny to dismiss those who simply disagree with you as a ‘Twitter pile on’. 🙄
As an Everton fan, please overlook Jarrad and I hope we sell Onana, anybody we can to keep this partnership alive. You can keep Maguire.
100% City and Real Madrid will never buy him. United need to buy world class players if we want to win UCL and Premier Leagues.
Ousmane Diomande(Cote d'Ivoire)CB20y.o.190cm 86kg*********25 Mill
David Hancko(Slovakia)CB LB 25y.o.188cm 80kg**************35 Mill LF
Kind of agree with you on that Stephen, he doesn't seem a cultured centre half seems more of a modern maguire, he's a good player but he's not the 50 to 60 million. 35 or 40 maybe if we could only get 1 centre half it would be Todibo but Branthwaite is left footed and a left footed centre half seems to be priority for Ten hag
Kambwala looks as good as him
I saw a picture of him and looks like a player at Manchester United. I hope we don't get the CB Scott Mctominay
Wouldn't say getting beat by Cole Palmer is something to criticise too hard as we've seen it time and time again even with Vidic vs. Fernando Torres that was far more consistent of a tearing and TAA albeit criticised a lot for defensive ability (Though it's not that bad) was down on the ground in his first season, remember Rashford putting him on his back vs us but he's grown a lot and plenty can see he could play for any team in the world. Serious talent is Branthwaite positional awareness comes with age and training.
When Ste said "I've watched enough Everton game to like Onana, but not Branthwaite", I couldn't agree more
Even Onana is not impressive.
If wer looking at any everton players we have a problem
Spot on, for 70M plus you should get Branthwaite and Todibo, with croissant and a coffee change to spare. Also why we connected to a deep playing CB to replace a ... deep playing CB who may be better on ball and in air aka Maguire. Faster and younger, but priority?
United need someone who's useful when we have the ball, not just a spare part who can only pass sideways. Yes I'm talking about you McTom!
I'm old-fashioned maybe, but for me an £80 million centre half should be the finished article, or on the brink of being so. He has good potential that I'd take a punt on for half that amount.
Ste is 100% right.
I said on Twitter a while ago that I bet Gareth Southgate was disappointed when he joined up with the squad and saw enough in training to know he wernt ready yet
I’ve seen pundits put him in their starting 11 for England… Embarrassing
100% agree again, if we buy this profile of player then we have learnt absolutely zero lessons from the past 10 years. It's too much money to pay I'm guessing the English tax but let's pay a third of that money for someone equally as good from elsewhere
This lad is very much looking like a Rio Ferdinand / Sergio Ramos hybrid - wasn't too fond of him towards the start of the season but he's really shown his welly at the back end. 110% a definite signing to be done.
ramos is way more quicker on his feet and much more aggressive.
Nonono Ramos has many more years training, this is a very special defender.
@@afaangrewal1427 So is he Real Madrid quality?
@@ekuniverse1 Are you asking me if he could match and exceed the feats of the great Thomas Gravesen? my honest opinion is he is beyond Real Madrid quality he is Manchester United quality.
@@afaangrewal1427 No because if he's that good he's better for Real Madrid like Jude, Barcelona, Bayern or Man City. Don't waste his career at United. They'll end up sacking Ten Hag next season. Also I'd rather have Tomori at United to be honest.
He’s the type of CB that we don’t want, he doesn’t have the ball skill, not good with his legs! He’s just like Harry Maguire!
Victor Lindelof and Johnny Evans can play 50yard passes into space down the channels... That doesn't make a United CB
Branthwaite is not worth 35 million guys we should sign tapsoba and todibo and tosin for free
Thanks to INEOS, overspending will be limited. Plus Wilcox seems meticulous.
Very good video!Better defenders in the championship, Portuguese league and French league that would cost 20-30M!
Hype job as usual!
What some are forgetting compared to other defenders we are interested in. He hasn't played in Europe on a weekly
Reminds me of Maguire with a bit more pace. Todibo and Bastoni are where I'd spend money.
Can’t see us signing any single player for 80m plus. Maybe this is a case of us trying to take advantage of Everton’s financial situation, for a player that has the potential to grow with the club. I also think we’re likely to bring in two CBs.
If he's not worth more than 50 then I guarantee that Utd would be willing to go to 100
This is why football is shit now. EVERYONE gets overhyped and its boring af
Ten Hag likes center backs that have progressive passes
He has potential for certain. But ineos cant be taking massive risks in transfers like we have previously. Someone like Todibo is a risk too (poor mentality in the past) but for 30-40 mill you almost cant go wrong
Thank you. This is a bench player to me. Needs a lot more time to develop. Goes to ground way too quickly for someone of that size and pace. Stay up man...
United just sort of react to what they need dont they, no plan
This video will be so ironic later 😂😂
What is the difference between him and Harry Maguire in Leicester? Overhyped and Utd should stay away from such players. You get Todibo and Tapsoba for 90-100m and you are set.
Fundamentally agree. Know an Everton season ticket holder said he is the only player since Rooney 100% sure will reachthe top, whih surprises me, I think heis reallygood but we don need to spend that ona left cb. Personally think Lukeba better there and a few others for the righ cbwhich is morei mportant.....However, we SHOULD be selling British players, areliterallyonly two we should def hang on to....so we maybeneedto sign some and outside of Braithwaite and far less so Archie Gray, which others are there we havea chance of signing?
Remember Maguire was supposed to be elite too? Maybe the most promising young English centre back but nothing more than that
Finally someone with a voice is saying what i have been saying
Did you watch Cubarsi? That's a generational talent... I don't think Branthwaite is even been considered. Media just loves to link players with United.
People see a young tall English centerback playing in the prem and immediately start suggesting he is the next best things. If he makes those mistakes at United, fans will cook him.
He is a young Maguire but I don't mean that as a compliment!
If there is some truth that United are interested in buying Branflakes we are seriously doomed!!!!!!!
We probably should have stopped using these stats as a barometer of a players quality after we signed Amrabat. I thought we were signing prime Busquets.
Definitely overhyped. He's young and has an opportunity to get better, but that's for a team already having established defensive players for Branthwaite to grow into, not an £80m instantaneous starter. Essentially: not Manchester United at this point.
Branthwaite-Maguire straight swap? Fair deal?
Great video, lets have more videos like this of other players were gonna be linked to