Tree work, rigging tops, basic concepts

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  • This is a quick step-by-step video showing you how I approach rigging tops. I hope this all make sense and that this helps someone. I am not an expert.
    "We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master." - Ernest Hemingway
    Climb High, Work Smart, Read More.
    - Patrick

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  • @threeriversforge1997
    @threeriversforge1997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That last point is the most important point that so many people forget, and not just tree folks. If you're on a team, even if you're the boss, learn to keep your mouth shut and let the people doing the work.... do the work. You've done your part. Talking with the people who are taking over when they're in the middle of doing their work.... that's just creating problems. Learn to be quiet. That way, when you do speak, it stands out in their minds and they immediately register that it's something imporant.

  • @KrimmaKrimma
    @KrimmaKrimma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Nice job Patrick. Saving lives man, this content is priceless.

    • @TreeMuggs_PatrickM
      @TreeMuggs_PatrickM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Appreciate it... - Patrick

    • @davidpalmer3015
      @davidpalmer3015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I totally agree...thanks for the clear explanation

    • @khalidmayes2401
      @khalidmayes2401 ปีที่แล้ว

      I most definitely learned how to climb watching his vids helped my dad's company out even more

  • @MallableYT
    @MallableYT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Patient tree climber like me, staying humble and calm with the guys.

  • @TheToolnut
    @TheToolnut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Top notch Pat, 👍 Just to reiterate that keeping one's climbing line tied in at knee height and the lanyard at waist height is key when working on spars, 🌲 🇨🇦 🇮🇪

  • @newmankey
    @newmankey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was on the ground on the port-a-wrap doing wraps and dropped 4 Ponderosa Pine tops against the trunks, my buddy, the climber, was sending. I'd like to not shake him all over the place via slamming the tops against the tree. In summation, a groundie's tutorial on lowering would be grand. Thanks! Love your work.

    • @jesseshort8
      @jesseshort8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let it run. Let it run. LET IT RUN.

  • @exploder69
    @exploder69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is pure solid gold material. Vids on YT have the potential to accomplish something that even apprenticeships can't: first-person viewpoint demonstrations by the climber, and not just to one apprentice, but to thousands of people. But key to making this work is explaining what you were thinking and looking at and why, at every moment. AND YOU DID THIS PERFECTLY. Thank you for being brave enough to do the hard work and put this out for all of us. Many people in the industry seem to be unwilling to share the real meat of the work, because they are afraid people will self-teach, take on too much, and die. I understand the worry, but the alternative is probably more real and deadly: many of us are self-teaching and nobody can stop us, so the better the information we have, the less likely we are to die. Having the people with the knowledge withhold it from us is not going to stop us, it is a false attempt at prevention that ultimately fails worse than it helps. Your wonderful and generous channel here is a beautiful antidote to all the ignorance, and I thank you, maybe with my life some day. Never doubt whether it's worth doing.

    • @SineEyed
      @SineEyed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean by "self-teaching"? Like never doing any tree work until one day you get a chainsaw and just start wingin it?..

  • @thelastdetail1
    @thelastdetail1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Super patient and professional as always. Textbook rigging and made it look easy.

  • @litholi9103
    @litholi9103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have watched many of your videos multiple times. I especially enjoy those where you voice over or type over the action. You method and style of communication is as important as your knowledge of rigging and cutting. I have directed my son whom I am teaching to climb to many of your videos as education and training. Keep up the quality videos.

  • @derekshort375
    @derekshort375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative straight forward and enjoyable to watch for any reason. You really do save lives with this material. From anyone who understands or wants to Thank you

  • @Jjosephda
    @Jjosephda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice little video Patrick. These are very simple repetitive tasks for s daily climber. But for novice or inexperienced guy this might save a life. Awesome work sir.

  • @scatoutdebutter
    @scatoutdebutter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Patrick. You have a gift of teaching. I really love your attention to detail and emphasis on saftey.

  • @jonathanwebb4404
    @jonathanwebb4404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hell of a video Patrick! Thank you so much for sharing your hard-earned knowledge.

  • @odysseusbaltazar814
    @odysseusbaltazar814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great point! 4:04

  • @tholi1052
    @tholi1052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoyed the format. Your videos are always informative but the step-by-step approach really compliments the video. Good work by your ground crew. That top ran out really well. No ride on the top!

  • @charliemm90
    @charliemm90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The patience part. That is the virtue my climber seems to lack the most. I am his groundsman/arborist trainee and a lot of the time its just us two. I work the lines, remove brush, operate chipper, move out work truck if necessary, talk with customer if language barrier (I’m bilingual in Spanish and English), and work chainsaw on the ground if limbs are too big for myself to move. God forbid I take a couple minutes longer than he wants to catch my breath or drink water or you know (run the rigging line safely and efficiently) cut up with chainsaw, haul out, then get back on the line for for the next limb. Damn that felt good to get off my chest wow! 😮‍💨

    • @TreeMuggs_PatrickM
      @TreeMuggs_PatrickM  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It takes as long as it takes buddy. Anyone working the ground by themselves when there is rigging involved has a very tough job indeed. Hang in there ✌️. - Patrick

  • @mattnoll8427
    @mattnoll8427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Patrick from Ohio! Loved this video. I'm still new to the game and this helped alot. Great video. Keep up the great teachings! Love your knot tutorials as well. Stay safe and have a great day man!

  • @jeffadams492
    @jeffadams492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Patrick always appreciate the instructionals from you

  • @treecareEdm
    @treecareEdm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice to see such professionalism.... Thank you...

  • @redinator9896
    @redinator9896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of your videos are amazing. I'm also partaking in the podcasts!

  • @rashawnapoirier7725
    @rashawnapoirier7725 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the system and the technique

  • @keithcramer3844
    @keithcramer3844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid always good to stay sharp on even the fundamentals.

  • @firedtradesman
    @firedtradesman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant as always! Thanks very much for the in depth explanation.

  • @DMFM75
    @DMFM75 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all your videos

  • @petroniomendesdesouza8756
    @petroniomendesdesouza8756 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Job! Thank you to sharing with us.

  • @garyhenion9459
    @garyhenion9459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always
    Thank you for taking us along

  • @christophervela5447
    @christophervela5447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing work

  • @timgrant1796
    @timgrant1796 ปีที่แล้ว

    Educational as well. I use the daisy chain so much now that I have to practice the other knots so I don't forget how to do them. Good thing I have my copy of the Fundamentals. Thanks for that too.

  • @spiercevaughn
    @spiercevaughn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this style of video 💪

  • @Arborist5851
    @Arborist5851 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful work brother

  • @finarborist868
    @finarborist868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what I've learned, is that with a back lean top, you should always do a 3:1 ma rope winch as a ground crew. Too many times I've made the test pull an be like: "oh yeah, moves nicely.." only to then having difficulties to pull the top over when the climber makes the cuts... I think the test pull is easier because you have the full length of the tree as a lever, rather than the actual 3-5meters when the cuts are made.
    and if you then need a fast pull at the end of the procedure, just grab all 3 ropes...
    nice vid. thanks!

  • @discoverykai1547
    @discoverykai1547 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job Patrick 👍👍

  • @patfennelloutdoors
    @patfennelloutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!

  • @Bythirteen
    @Bythirteen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you! very clear and concise

  • @juang.cuevas5794
    @juang.cuevas5794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well done, thank you!

  • @farrenyoung
    @farrenyoung 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a very nice teaching style. Thanks a lot for sharing. Liked/subbed and looking at more now!

  • @hobbybaumpfleger
    @hobbybaumpfleger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video!!! All Steps make totally sense. Thanks for that! - Reto

  • @goddybob
    @goddybob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    appreciate your comment about not barking at the ground crew. I've always felt you can tell a hack crew by how much screaming is going on during the job. A solid crew should have to rely on very little, if any at all, shouting during the job.

  • @zarrthacker3377
    @zarrthacker3377 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks dude!

  • @douggibson9084
    @douggibson9084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great short video Patrick 🙂

  • @robertstroh4803
    @robertstroh4803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @joesarrieto8434
    @joesarrieto8434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome tutorials and great videos.
    Can you please explain to me why and the importance of putting the rigging sling below your lanyard?

  • @joseochoa3239
    @joseochoa3239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job

  • @jamesblack687
    @jamesblack687 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you 🙏

  • @terrancelee1898
    @terrancelee1898 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb

  • @markadkins9290
    @markadkins9290 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    EXCELLENT!

  • @Joesdifferent
    @Joesdifferent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The text commentary was pretty damn cool explaining this or that or this or that because there are different ways to do everything and you only explain the best of the best of those ways to do each specific demonstration in particular of Whatever video I love it brother

  • @kennethsizer6217
    @kennethsizer6217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Don't push your luck.
    Chance has no memory."
    So much wisdom. Write this on your harness and/or chainsaw. Read it every day.
    The mantra my father taught us -- taught to him in the Airforce -- was, "This machine has no conscience and plays no favorites"
    One of my professors' sayings was, "The machine isn't *actually* evil and it doesn't *actually* want you to fail,
    but that's a good working approximation."

  • @ScottEmmert1980
    @ScottEmmert1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't realize you're in Ohio. I thought all the trees looked pretty familiar. Being an arborist greatly interests me. Thanks for making such informative videos for me to learn from!

  • @dprevish100
    @dprevish100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video step by step:) Thanks, just wondering, do you recommend always having the swivel snap (on your right upper D) facing in or is it a matter of preference? I see both ways done.

  • @ryandelcourt4774
    @ryandelcourt4774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right on

  • @smellygoatacres
    @smellygoatacres 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Y'all that do this stuff are nuts.

  • @MPH-iq5md
    @MPH-iq5md 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Patrick, great video. If you do an edit in future could you leave the text on for a bit longer please. Doesn’t affect the video per se, just means that us lazy types don’t have to keep scrolling back and pausing. Keep up the good work.

    • @mikes4830
      @mikes4830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can slow the play back speed in youtube with the 3 dots in the corner...makes it easier to read...also useful for other videos. Sometimes speeding up is nice too...

  • @douglascasey3486
    @douglascasey3486 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a big open face notch when cutting big timber at the butt. It allows the hinge to travel further before it closes and breaks. Stops pulls and slabing.

  • @kraljnadkraljevima1917
    @kraljnadkraljevima1917 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice jobb

  • @buynsell365
    @buynsell365 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. What size rope are you using to lower the tree down?

  • @hallohohi6043
    @hallohohi6043 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would be pleased if you could do a video what the ground crew has to do. Especially the process when the tree top is falling down. Is the line fixed on the bollard or what’s the best way?

  • @JuniusDexter
    @JuniusDexter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I had a question on the lanyard position, why not have both climb systems below the rigging?

  • @maxpower1337
    @maxpower1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok Kevin Glad you good now.

  • @harrypurdon4137
    @harrypurdon4137 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey mate awesome video, can you or anyone else explain to me why you have you flip line above the rigging sling and climbing line below ?
    Cheers

  • @takkelberry73
    @takkelberry73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏👏👏‼️👍 thank you.

  • @small-town-southern-man3573
    @small-town-southern-man3573 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What advantage is the Daisy over a running bowline? I e used a running bowline for over 38 years, and can tie it quickly, in awkward positions, and could do it with my eyes closed if necessary. Honestly curious as to why you prefer the daisy?

  • @nettles89
    @nettles89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting...why do you say you should’ve engaged the chain brake before stowing the saw? I find leaving it off allows the chain to run when the teeth catch my pants, ropes, or boots, rather than digging in and causing more damage. I’m going to engage the brake as part of my startup procedure anyway; is there another reason I’m not seeing for engaging it when the engine is off?
    Very good demo! I appreciate these, even when I don’t learn anything new, it’s a good reminder and chance to assess my habits through someone else’s eyes.

    • @TreeMuggs_PatrickM
      @TreeMuggs_PatrickM  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't engage the brake making a topping cut either, I just shut the saw off immediately..... but I know the safety advocates will say that you should... All the best... - Patrick

  • @dwighttompkins6351
    @dwighttompkins6351 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I’ve been trying to figure out how to rig using a portowrap, I get the base setup at the botto, but how do you rig the top and what do you need?

  • @ericpurcell9984
    @ericpurcell9984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi what’s the song at the end of video? Thanks and great content, letting the crew works things out on their own as they’ve done it before is professional. You my friend are in it for the long haul.

    • @slimjim227
      @slimjim227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eric Purcell
      I was wondering the same thing so I asked my Deezer app and it came back with ‘Highland Morning’ by ‘Rune Dale’

  • @tonypaulson2682
    @tonypaulson2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you determine rope size, sling size?

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 ปีที่แล้ว

    "And never take chances in the wind."

  • @higginswell95
    @higginswell95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful music - who is it?

  • @michaelflores9796
    @michaelflores9796 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question? Is ground crew holding weight of the limb while the tree is falling or is there some type of mechanism you are using?

    • @TreeMuggs_PatrickM
      @TreeMuggs_PatrickM  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are using a bollard attached to the base of the tree, rope wraps around it, allows lowering of pieces heavier than bodyweight or what you can hold by hand.... - y

  • @bornagian1744
    @bornagian1744 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you put the x ring so low alex

  • @troy4219
    @troy4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick, what does it afford you to anchor your flip line on bridge rings?

    • @TreeMuggs_PatrickM
      @TreeMuggs_PatrickM  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      More comfortable in many situations... - Patrick

  • @LTawesomesauce
    @LTawesomesauce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I have a question. Why exactly does your main climbing line go below the rigging sling? To me, it looks like when the sling is loaded it could possibly pinch your climbing line against the trunk? Could you explain this detail for me and why it shouldn't go above the sling like your lanyard? Thanks

    • @TreeMuggs_PatrickM
      @TreeMuggs_PatrickM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      When you start rigging bigger stuff, you can get terrible stem shake when the piece slams into the spar....people have been killed from this because they didn't have a cinching system below the rigging sling....they have been thrown right up and over the top and fallen to the ground...so setting it up like this means that even if your lanyard popped over the top, your climbing system is locked in place underneath the rigging sling, and you won't be able to go flying over the top... As shown here, the climbing line is being pinched, so to speak, by the rigging sling, but not by the ring/block itself or the rigging line... it is safe under there... Hope that makes sense... thanks for watching... - Pattick

    • @LTawesomesauce
      @LTawesomesauce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome thanks so much. It's crazy how many small details like this there are that can be the difference between life and death. Thank you for sharing and all that you do for the arbor community

  • @aidansmith393
    @aidansmith393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you have your lanyard on top of the rigging sling, and your second tie in/descent line below the rigging sling?

    • @TreeMuggs_PatrickM
      @TreeMuggs_PatrickM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Setting it up this way keeps you from getting thrown over the top of the spar and possibly falling if you were rigging big, and allows you to easily unclip your lanyard and descend to the ground if you had to... if that makes sense... - Patrick

    • @aidansmith393
      @aidansmith393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      EducatedClimber gotcha that’s a great tip. Is that how you always tie in doing negative spar rigging?

  • @jeffschroeder9089
    @jeffschroeder9089 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👌

  • @HiLineTree
    @HiLineTree 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Textbook👍

  • @murphy4trees
    @murphy4trees 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't care for a that distance between block and the cut... i prefer to tie the sling on (in this case I would have tied the sling above the crotch, then cut the notch within a few inches of sling, then laced up the lowering line.

  • @efo1358
    @efo1358 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All Good! 👍🫵

  • @JohnSmith-sk5fc
    @JohnSmith-sk5fc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cutting a small groove for the butt line to sit in is the way to go to prevent the line from slipping off the butt

    • @TylerKegolis
      @TylerKegolis หลายเดือนก่อน

      Simply using a half hitch belpw your bowline or daisy chain is proper technique for this. Exactly what he did. I understand what you're saying, and it seems like a logical method. I'm unsure of exactly why cutting a small groove isn't recommended, but I've always used hh with my knot if slippage seemed possible and haven't had any issues. Knock on wood.

  • @sumwon1575
    @sumwon1575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I am nervous about starting to actually climb and blow tops out

    • @TreeMuggs_PatrickM
      @TreeMuggs_PatrickM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Start small, you got this... - Patrick

    • @samuelluria4744
      @samuelluria4744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What Country/State/Province are you in? We're looking for A Few Nervous Men....

  • @LukeJitsu
    @LukeJitsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone explain the main benefit of the side cuts? Just a cleaner cut I’m assuming?

    • @chrisberry84
      @chrisberry84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He mentions it in his other videos. Just prevents sides from possibly catching and spinning/pulling top to one direction on the way down

    • @LukeJitsu
      @LukeJitsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      chrisberry84 thanks man

  • @Dan-jg7zl
    @Dan-jg7zl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason why you find the wider open notch cut pulls the stem less is because the hinge breaks at a later time. Rather than the piece of wood breaking half way in mid air then dropping a further distance, creating higher pull force when the rope catches it, the wider cut would release the bit of wood a few seconds later, which will cushion the fall more.

  • @ALL4SCUBA05
    @ALL4SCUBA05 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the climbing line goes below the rigging line because…

  • @matthewbuckland8256
    @matthewbuckland8256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes you have to BARK BARK BARK at your ground crew

  • @steveeggleston2715
    @steveeggleston2715 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    On my own lnykjo

  • @kennethsizer6217
    @kennethsizer6217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Step 1: Pull your rope out
    Step 1.1: Make sure you did Step 1
    Step 1.2: Check one more time

  • @the2Atreeclimber
    @the2Atreeclimber 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    POST A VIDEO SHOWING YOUR FULL CLIMBING SETUP PLEASE! SADDLE, ROPES, GEAR, ECT. SOME OF US ARE GEAR LOVERS AND WE WANNA SEE IT.
    THANKS DUDE!!!

  • @utar88utar
    @utar88utar ปีที่แล้ว

    good one, but did later you abseil in SRT in zigzag WITHOUT chicane?
    can you do that?