I really enjoy the style of this video, the commentary with the stills of you on the side is really entertaining to watch! I haven’t finished avatar yet STILL (I know that’s super lame since it’s so old lmao) so I’m not watching the whole video because of spoilers. Still looks great though man, you deserve more subscribers for the amount of work you put into your videos 👌😌
Thank you! I really appreciate that! And yeah, I’d say save this video until you finish both series. I don’t fully spoil things, but just in case 😅. Thank you so much for your support!!!
Yeah you can totally see them getting closer and closer from the first episodes of s3. And I think they built their relationship really well through s3 and 4
Korra's character development was realistic compared to today's events. She went through things that would cripple most people for life. I really don't understand why people hate her story, she's the Avatar in a different timeline. She's a total badass, and watching her grow up to become the Avatar in a world that didn't think they needed her was inspiring and tragic. She deserves more respect for all the obstacles she overcame.
I'm beginning to believe people dislike Korra because they want to stay broken. They haven't healed from their own personal psychological trauma yet. And they hadn't made any plans on putting any effort whatsoever into doing that. And so watching a show of a beautiful person finding the strength to do just that?? And depicting it in a realistic and relatable way?? Triggering!
The other thing to consider is that, personally, I think the show is in an unpolished state. Which seems to acrually heighten it's sense of psychological trauma even more. You can't just watch it, and then take it at face value. You ACTUALLY need to think. Americans hate that!
I am one of those cursed people who actually enjoyed Korra more since the beginning. It has been a ride. I am glad to see more people taking time to understand and enjoy it.
@@austinjohnsen4430 I just liked the plot of korrabecause remember when Cora said she had to feel what true suffering was before she was able to connect with anybody and how Ang had to becomea avatar because he was too pure and korra was a little too ruthless maybe I'm not sure but I think you know what I mean it's like he had to learn to become an avatar and Cora had to learn how to become a human sorry this is very long 😁🖤🖤🖤
I loved LoK, rewatching ATLA I cry with tears of nostalgia and also for the loss in a war, but with LoK I cried solely out of relatability. It showed me you can all-powerful and still be broken. It reminded me of being a wide-eyed kid and life and its issues draining it away from me, but being able to prevail despite it. The scene where she cried after watching Jinora get her tattoos, always makes me tear up. She's happy but she's in so much pain, and I felt similar situations.
Ok I know this has been said by multiple people already, but the relationship between Korra and Asami had build up. Their conversation in the beginning of season 3, Asami taking care of Korra, Korra only writing to Asami and Korra and Asamis conversation at the reunion in season 4 just to name the scenes from memory. I would not call that not a lot of development, but more not as much as was possile. But even then, sometimes things like these can just happen.
AntasmaSonic oh yeah I agree, but with the external factors that worked against the true potential of “outness” their relationship could have had, I just wished it could have been more. But yeah, at least we got something.
Yes yes yes! I love Korra so much! People are just blinded by those very flawed hate videos. Everyone needs to give Korra shot. It's so amazing ad mature
I can understand most criticisms of LOK but “Korra is a bad character” is not one I can. It’s obvious how much depth and development this character is given and the show isn’t even subtle about it. When people call her a Mary Sue I honestly don’t know what show they were watching because it wasn’t the same one I was. Of all the things LOK messed up, Korra was not one of them. Korra was like Zuko levels of character arc carrying the series.
I'm loving how more creators are putting up videos in defense of Korra. Also, I'd be an airbender. I mean...the ability to fly! (with glider assistance) But to be so self-reliant to travel long distances just resonates with me. The freedom! This was one of the many reasons I thoroughly enjoyed LOK - to observe airbenders in action. In ATLA, it was indeed fascinating that Aang was sort of this double wild card which the title of the show couldn't be more direct about. He was not only the avatar, master of all elements but he was an airbender in a world that forgot what it was like to have airbenders around. Aang was the only source of airbending screentime, so it was a bit more limiting to observe and appreciate. But then LOK came along with Tenzin and family! And then the absolute best surprise Mike and Bryan pulled off was the "awakening" of airbenders after Harmonic Convergence! Seeing multiple people with different personalities and levels of expertise in the third season and then seeing them socially intergrated in the fourth season was more than I ever asked for. So good!
Edward Ramirez-Wright yeah! I loved the way they made that happen! And you’re right, it was a great way to be able to make it make sense for the “new Airbender lifestyle” after only Aang and his descendants had it!
just a heads up, Mike and Bryan left production of the netflix adaption to ATLA and did so due to creative differences as well as not so favorable reasons and given this is similar to what happened with the live action movie...well history seems tp love repeating itself on another note, thank you for making this video. LOK gets so much of a bad rep because some folks can't get passed the issues it had and given some of the behind the scenes stuff that took place one can understand. it also doesn't help when negative videos talking about Korra gain so much popularity that most people decide to blindly believe those videos without giving the show a chance for themselves
[ Shana Reviews ] I know 🥺🥺 I heard 😭. And thank you I appreciate that so much, I feel like I need to personally thank all of you for even watching this! I’m surprised people have as a small channel! But yeah, Korra and the show deserves so much more credit than they are given!!
I'm pretty one being more realistic has much to do with disliking korra and I'm certain that even in ATLA, kiyoshi was the most fan fav when it came to avatar not anng as she got her own novel as well
(Srry for the bad English) Tbh is lok the only show that I saw where teenagers act like teenagers (Imo). I’m 14 and I relate so much to korra and jinora. When I was younger I hated atla and loved lok so much. (Now I like atla) I never knew why I loved it so much. Now that I’m older and kinda had depression and felt lonely I see so much of myself in korra. I never get why people hate her. She literally acts like a teen. Mako acts like a teen to (and probably had never a relationship and that is why the love triangle happened what in my opinion isn’t stupid because many teens handle it like that.) and bolin ect to. some of those people forget that they probably acted just like korra. I never get either why many people say that lok ruined atla, while it isn’t true. Yes they changed some things but it isn’t that big that it ruined everything. And because they don’t like that they hate the whole show. They forget that the original makers from both shows wrote and made lok. And yes lok was dark but many teenagers deals with that shit. Not only adults. Even kids deals with that. And many shows don’t spend enough or any time on that and act like teenagers never goes through that and are “perfect”. I’m so happy that Michael and Bryan spend time on that themes and made lok!
Ur English is good! And yeah, i agree with you. I think atla is a good show, but lok is great. I find the story so much more compelling and relatable. I first watched it last fei, so this isn't coming from a feeling of nostalgia. I've watched critique videos saying why lok is bad. I appreciate their efforts, so i decided to re-watch the show with an open mind. Tbh, i kinda expected to like lok less after the re-watch, but I didn't. It still hits me. I keep finding ways that the show failed, but i just can't reason out. It's still a really great show
You remind me of someone who said that he likes how the characters in LOK actually act their age compared to the characters in ATLA, despite the fact that being forced to grow up faster than is normal is kinda a running theme in both shows. And personally I don’t think that making a character relatable is the gold standard to making them good, even though it certainly doesn’t hurt. Zuko for example is considered one of the best characters in the Avatar universe, yet how many fans actually relate to his abusive upbringing?
@@neilagangitlog lok is an alright show. It often takes the easy way out with a lot of the issues and questions it raises. For example we don’t even find out what becomes of republic city after Amon’s death at the end of season one, even though this whole bender and non bender conflict was the crux of that season’s plot. And before you say this was addressed in the next season, let me remind you that there originally wasn’t suppose to be any more seasons planned for Korra. And having Amon be outed as a crazy fraud felt like a cheap way to wrap everything up. Similar thing happens in season two. Korra does not need to take any sides during a civil war, or make any other difficult choice because everyone eventually finds out who the real bad guy is once again. And then there’s Korra herself throughout the entire show. For someone who’s greatest fear that the world doesn’t need the avatar anymore she never really has to face that fear. Each season introduces a new big bad villain that only the avatar can really hope to stop. It’s kinda similar to how Aang never needed to face his fear of taking a human life now that I think about it. Well what do you know, both these characters got to have their cake and eat it too in the end. Seeing Korra figure out what her place in society ought to be when there are no bad guys like that to fight could have been interesting. So yeah, let’s not get so wrapped up in the ideas that this show had that we ignore they ultimately turned out in the end.
Korra’s internal struggles and the villains are the best parts of the whole show by far. I think its weakest points is not fleshing out Team Avatar and the spirit world lore they add doesn’t fit with almost everything we learn about the spirit world in AtLA
Korra is best okay?!?!?!?!? I dont care what people say about it, Korra was my intro to the avatar series (yes i watched the shows in a different order thats not the point). Apart from book 2, everything else was just perfect in my opinion. Thank god i found someone like you to back up my opinion.
Treadmill progress: fans in 2014 complain that since we're living in modern times this type of token representation should not be acceptable, fans in 2020 say the tokenism is understandable because it was "so long ago."
@@futurestoryteller Time gives you perspective, I guess. Love it or not, korrasami really was a milestone. Just by being canon, it opened up the door for same-sex romances in mainstream animation aimed at a young audience. Korrasami crawled, so bubbline can walk, so catadora can run.
Loved this video and although I have zero idea what type of bender I’d be still pretty good! I agree Korea is underrated Tenzin, Zaheer and Amon are some of my all time favorite characters from that universe. Wish I could have more Amon later but the episode with Zahere in season 4 is one of my favorites. Overall though I agree! I remember watching this show on my terrible laptop as it came out.
Xavier Snow Yeah! Like was it perfect? No, but I think it’s a good sequel. And maybe fire bending as well? But I might just be saying that cause of your love for Charizard haha 😂
I'm so glad people you exist to defend this wonderful show. I love this show and as much as I like ATLA, I just enjoy LOK a more (to an extent) I agree Korra is more relatable than Aang. (but then you lost me with Rey Skywalker, because she too is not a Mary Sue). Aang may of been a spiritual person but he never got spirits and humans to live among each other. it was Korra who brought them back to the material world and walk among humanity again (Despite that, Aang would of been proud that she proved Old Iron wrong and that spirits do have a place in the human world). Aang also couldn't bring the Air nation back, it was Korra who indirectly brought them back from the edge of extinction (again, Aang would of been proud of her)
I get it you have you’re opinion about her. Everyone does. Just like this franchise too. I also wanted to point out that I also agree how the villains in Korra are more memorable than Ozai. Azula is an amazing villain with a tragic background, making her more interesting than her piece of shit father. Despite Vaatu just being the ultimate evil of the avatar universe, I also prefer him over Ozai. Amon is scary cool, Zaheer is a badass, and Kuvira is just fricking awesome To me. Amon, despite being a bender Himself, saw bending as evil and wanted non-benders to be equal. Zaheer wanted nations like the earth kingdom to be free from tyrants like the earth queen or idiots like Raiko. Kuvira wanted to bring her nation back in order and to become more advanced so they can be up to date with technology and order. To me Kuvira is my favorite (that does not mean I don’t like Zaheer, he’s awesome and I like his relationship with his team)
Honestly I feel like people who hate Korra the character because of her attitude or personality never actually finished watching the show. Seasons 3 and 4 deal directly with that, and she grows a ton and changes her attitude by the end. How can you complain about that if you've watched it-- you just can't, because Korra at the end of Season 4 is not the same loudmouth, arrogant Korra from Season 1, Episode 1. She just isn't, and that's the point. She grows, she changes, and becomes a better person. Like I get it if you have gripes with the *show* for various reasons, (even ATLA has its own gripes too) but to hate on *Korra* the character herself by the end? It's just hard to do so.
@@austinjohnsen4430 not really. But if your gonna criticize Korra for “being a bad character and not developing throughout the series” at least look into the other two seasons to see whether you claim is correct or not. If people actually watched the series in its entirety and then judged whether she progressed or not, we probs wouldn’t be saying this
@@vulpiixfoxx Alright, imagine you’re giving a new show a shot. And after finishing two whole seasons you’re still not really won over by it. Would you really be all that pumped to continue watching it at that point? And I think a case can be made that Korra didn’t really develop as a character much once season 2 starts, despite Aang’s dialogue with her implying otherwise when he says we’re open to the greatest change. In the very first episode of book 2 she’s back to being a stuck up brat that takes bending for granted.
@@austinjohnsen4430 dude do you understand what I’m trying to say? I’m trying to say don’t judge a character and whether they progressed through the series or not just after watching half of the show. If you’re gonna fault Korra fault this why don’t you fault Zuko too? Since it’s pretty clear the two parallel each other. I don’t have a problem with you not liking a series but if you claim one character from said series did not develop at all without looking at the seasons, then obviously people are gonna argue that point is invalid because the character develops in the seasons you didn’t bother watching for your research.
6:43 Azula didn't "choose" to be "evil" she was raised by a warmonger, she grew up an aristocrat knowing nothing but wartime without any opportunity to grow beyond the influences of her environment, unlike Zuko. As for Ozai, he's a warmongering head of state. What else do we need to know about him and why? Do we need to know Saddam Hussein's back story for him to be a believable or satisfying villain? What about Genghis Khan? Napoleon Bonaparte? Stalin? No. National interests can turn anyone into a villain if it's *your* natural resources, *your* sovereign territory, *your* pain and *your* blood that is being abused in the name of that interest. If I was going to criticize Ozai as a villain character it would be to remark upon how the focus on him as the main antagonist in the last airbender may have been too conceptually mature for the audience it was being written for, but frankly even that critique falls short of valid as the intended audience won't (didn't) question the source of Ozai's motivations but rather simply accepted him as the big bad. Indeed as the intended audience matures (or in this case has matured) they can look back and see how Ozai is a very real archetype that exists in their very real world. Honestly I'd like to see more TH-camrs like you discuss what should even count as a valid critique of any body of work in any medium within the entertainment industry. Is the fact that The Last Airbender's main story arc was stretched over 3 seasons something to be lauded or criticized, why? Is the fact that The legend of Korra has multiple main arcs something to be lauded or criticized? Why? What about the fact that each of the main arcs was deeper and more complex than the last airbender? Was the last airbender elegant or just too simple? What if I'm a massive Dragon ball fan and actually *liked* the epic chest beam battle between the dark avatar and the true avatar? How is criticizing big beam battles valid? -- _ (:\) _ --
Yoooo this video was fricken awesome! I love this video thank you. This deserves much more attention than the negative vids people made. I hope you make more avatar videos.
@@criles and i heard some snotty and ungrateful Aang fanboys are trying to get Aaron Ehasz to de-canonize Korra for the giggles and their own personal/selfish gains
I gotta admit I used to dislike Korra, but that’s mainly because I paused watching the series beginning book 3. After I finished, I take back what I said about her
I love Korra. I think she's a really fun character. I think one reason people hate her so much is because her writing sucks. This isn't the character's fault, it's Mike and Brian's fault. They started of in season 1 with such a great protagonist, but they didn't do good follow through of due diligence with any of her character arcs. In s1 we have a flawed young woman who defines herself by her bending and thinks she can punch her problems away. And her main conflicts are her inability to bend air and her fear of losing her bending to Amon. This seems like a perfect need vs. want scenario to teach Korra that she is more than just her bending and some solutions can't be solved by force but instead she beats Amon by punching him out a window and after losing her bending, she falls into a deep depression and views herself as unworthy of love and becomes near suicidal. It's not until after she gets her bending back that she is able to return Mako's affection and gets praised by Tenzin of being a fully realized Avatar. So her self worth is once again staked to her bending and she learns nothing at all. These character arc issues persist for all 3 seasons. Mike and Brian confuse trauma with character growth. The narrative of healing through trauma that is present in Legend of Korra is notable and I like that it's there but you can't substitute that for an actual character arc. At that point you're just tryna get cheap pathos out of the audience by threating your protagonist like a wounded puppy.
People who compare LoK and AtLA because LoK was a sequal really need to realize that although of the same universe and continuity, these are not the same stories. Avatar the Last Airbender was a story about the adventure of Aang and his friends in their efforts to defeat the fire nation. The Legend of Korra was about Korra herself and her development as an avatar and a person.
you do realize korra also follow the same formulas as ATALS despite her being the main focus but with lots of back and forth but in more smaller scale. Both series as a whole aren't that much different tbh
this video is awesome! I had some points I wanted to say, - I love literally everything (except for her disconnection with her past lives) about Korra. - I love that she's a bratty teenager, because it's realistic. the way she was raised makes sense to how her personality is (she was stuck in the South Pole for 17 years, Aang got to explore the entire world when he was only 12), it's nice to have an avatar so different from Aang. - I think the development between korrasami is more prevalent than people give it credit for. Korra ONLY wrote to asami while she was away, they had a ton of bonding and 1 on 1 time in season 3 (asami took care of Korra after getting poisoned), there was a scene where Korra blushed after Asami complimented her, and Korra always talked to Asami unlike anyone else in her life. - I LOVE THE 20s/ WW2 SETTING. I love it. I love the way it's an expanded, alternate world that has elements of the real world. it's perfectly fitted, and we got MOTORCYCLE and CAR chases.... in an avatar world? yes please. - the villains of seasons 1, 3 & 4 were all fantastic. Amon was so powerful and presented a real threat, he caused Korra to experience true fear for the first time. the red lotus and Zaheer had a great motive, their existence even builds on why Korra was sheltered, he SUCKED THE AIR out of the earth queen, may I go on. and Kuvira was quite charming, I really enjoyed having a female antagonist that was truly powerful, she was the embodiment of a power-hungry dictator who goes way too far in trying to achieve their goals. - and of course, I love Korra's arc, and that by the time season 4 rolls around she wants to talk it out with Kuvira instead of fight her like a season 1 or 2 version of Korra would---without thinking twice. sooooo yeah, I love Korra and I wish other people could get over the flaws and consider the elements the creators were working with and appreciate it as the beautiful show that it is.
I love both shows and they are both very important to me in different ways. I can see why people may not like it, but some just love the hate Korra and shit on the fans. I don't get it
Lots of people dislike korra on a personal level 🤷♂️. I love her, to me she's just a hot headed anime main character at the beginning and develops maturity as the show progresses I really want to rewrite the show, but anime movie style instead of live action People don't like the setting?? That's one of my fav parts, especially the jazz
Correction* Korrasami was developing since season 3 (you can see the development if you look more closely) and this all happened in 2014 before gay marriage in the US was even legalized. For the environment and restrictions the creators of Korra were given, I think LOK turned out great and is still one of my favorite shows even today.
I just don't think the destruction of the past lives was at all needed or justified based on a storytelling standpoint. All it served to do was make it harder for Korra without addressing the world-changing implications of losing almost all of human history. As soon as the past avatars are gone the show should have been solely focused on that, getting them back or starting a new cycle. But it wasn't, it was just pain for the sake of pain for Korra. Why destroy Aang, Kyoshi, Roku, Yangchen, and Kuruk (all characters we know and love) and barely mention it outside of Korra not having them for help like Aang did. Her journey should have been about becoming a more spiritual avatar, which could have involved her connecting with her past lives and Aang more and finding her own spirituality. Also, why tf korra so damn gullible but never learns, you didn't address that. Bottom line is I find it hard to believe that "Korra's story matters" when I question whether it needed to be or should have been told in the first place. I really enjoyed watching the show and I loved some of the characters more than ATLA, but I don't consider it totally cannon and I find it difficult to relate and feel bad for Korra. A lot of the pain she went through was her own fault when she played into the hands of basically every villain there was. Personally I would have rather seen Aang figure out how to re-establish the air nomads when only one of his kids can bend, and deal with the aftermath of the war rather than a new avatar do it for him. Good video but I just disagree and at least for me your arguments don't address the reason I dislike Korra herself and the show personally.
I largely agree here. I think Korra has all of the pieces to make a good character and decent show, but the show itself never uses those pieces in ways that make for a coherent whole, instead being bogged down by the segmented nature of the first two seasons and generally just lesser-quality writing than a lot of contemporary shows at the time (this show’s run was during the peak of Adventure Time’s popularity, btw, which I maintain is a much more consistently good and interesting show than Korra despite being more focused on comedy than Korra). For her worth, she is still by far the most developed of the Krew (Bolin and Mako barely get any character development despite their screen time, and Asami is hardly ever around a lot of the time), though it still feels like this series likes to just pile traumatic events on top of her every season as a substitute for actual character development. It’s really frustrating.
I would actually argue this. Honestly, think about it. How often did Aang use his connection to his past lives? He did it ALL THE TIME. Destroying the connections to the past avatars didn’t erase them from history, it just meant that Korra couldn’t pull the whole “hey Aang, you’re super spiritual, how do you do this thing?”. People would have constantly been questioning why she went for outside help instead of just talking to her past lives. That would remove the appearance of Toph and Zuko. As for her being so gullible, the show actually addresses that. She lived her entire life in a compound where people were only ever helpful. Everyone she’s met for the first several episodes have acted no different. Why wouldn’t she give anyone the benefit of the doubt? Another thing you mentioned is that you would have preferred her journey to be about becoming a more spiritual Avatar, but that wouldn’t make any sense for the person she is. At least not at the start. She’s a hothead, quick to fight, she was raised in the south where there was less focus on the spirits. She says specifically “I’m about as opposite an airbender as you can get.” Airbenders entire culture revolves around things she has trouble with. It’s like saying Aang should have focused all of his energy on earthbending. I can understand wanting another Aang journey out of nostalgia, but would you really have been happy with an entire show about trying to reestablish airbending and helping rebuild after a war, and nothing else? No antagonist, nobody after him, no inner conflict? Isn’t that what made ATLA so special?
Most people hate her because she reflects a part of us (specially teenagers) that we aren't really proud of or something we haven't accepted about ourselves. She not only had to fight some villains who were a lot more powerful and terrifying than those we saw in ATLA, but she was also in a battle within herself, suffered from PTSD. I leaned a lot of things from korra. She taught me in order to overcome your fears and trauma you have to accept them at first. She taught me to accept myself. She taught me to never give up. And that's why i love her.
Korra had it worse because she was put in a forced sheltered situation so she was safe her entire life up until 17. She had nothing to be afraid of until she left the life she had ever known for the first time. This gave her a false bravado she knows not. She also never got to travel, mature, and learn through life experiences like other avatars. Ang started his journey already knowing sorrow through losing his culture thus knowing sympathy and passion for others. Korra finally understands this after she was broken down and travelled by herself to find herself to put herself together. Therefore finally going through that journey every avatar must go through...which she did AFTER already mastering all four elements and the avatar stage. There was so much GROWTH in this series that I don’t understand how people can hate her. You must be correct that they hate seeing the reflections of themselves through her. Because all of the other BS don’t make sense. Also, how can you hate Korrasami. Korra needed someone who was just as tough and won’t take her shit, but understood her emotionally while being able to calm her down through explaining why and how when she was right/wrong. Mako couldn’t do it because he was objective and emotionally constipated. They didn’t give Asami a bigger part. That’s the only disappointment I have with the writing. She was always in the background and had some things to say until the 3rd book, but even then she could’ve have had a bigger role like Mako did in the first two books to build a less ambiguous, not even grey, intentionally leaving us guessing whether or not Korrasami was a thing. Also, I say this because Asami is my favorite supporting character that needed something more than just an electrical glove that’s only effective in close combat when you had benders that could attack from feet away. Make it at least be able to shoot electricity. You’ve made up so much bending already. Make this up to have her in more fighting scenes rather than every once in awhile.
Also, Ang always had time to play, had down time, laughed a lot...it just wasn’t realistic. That was tiring to me. I couldn’t watch ATLA without skipping so many parts. I couldn’t relate to a 12yo. It was a great journey...don’t get me wrong. But I just couldn’t relate to him again and again. I could only rewatch it twice before I couldn’t take it anymore. He also only had one true main villain, with great power, to focus on the entire time. Shit finally got serious the last few episodes when he finally took it seriously because time was running out. No more messing around blah blah blah. Yeah he’s a 12yo - that’s just it. He’s 12. He couldn’t already understood the balance of life - even if he is a monk with tattoos at a young age. Flash backs showed he only wanted to be a kid. So, I just can’t relate to that. If you can relate to Ang and you are not 12...you are wishing to be a kid again rather than face the realities Korra faced in LOK - growing up and taking your job seriously while everyone hates you for it. In the show and IRL, never getting the recognition for it. Man, this video got me all hyped. Thanks for making it. LOK needs more accolade than the BS hate it gets. I can write a whole essay and then some as to why LOK is freaking awesome. Props to you and everyone going against the grain and standing up for LOK! 🙌❤️ ** Not dissing ATLA, just backing up my shit unlike those who just jump on the “I hate so and so” band wagon before giving it a chance or truly understanding the underlying themes of such and such. Or thinking for themselves. **
@@linhansboury1886 Do you really need to be a kid in order to relate to Aang? He’s clearly someone who longs for the good old days before things changed for him. A feeling I think plenty of people can relate to. And I don’t think making a character relatable is the be all end all to making a character good, even though it certainly doesn’t hurt. Zuko is considered one of the greatest characters in Avatar as a whole, yet how many fans actually relate to his abusive upbringing? And I think the real reason people don’t like Korra much is because she has traits that reminds them of why they don’t like certain people with those traits. Korra, both the character and the show certainly get better. But for the people that were burnt out by two whole seasons at the beginning, can you really blame them for not wanting to continue on?
@@austinjohnsen4430 We already went through this. And the answer is no, again. Re-read my post because I’m sure I said relate to “again and again”; thus I can’t keep rewatching it. I can watch LOK as many times as I want and still be ok. That’s just me. If you want to watch ATLA, you do you. We’ve been over this sooooooo many times. Do you like finding my passages to rehash the same stuff or hear yourself repeat the same hymns of your negative thoughts of LOK? If you can say all that about Zuko spare him due to his upbringing, you’re either a damn hypocrite or a sexist. I have REPEATEDLY said the same thing to you about Korra, yet you IGNORE it. So shush your mouth about LOK until you give the same respect to LOK as ATLA when the same references come up. Same shit different storyline.
Can I blame people for being blind, can’t think for themselves...too vanilla to appreciate non-linear storyline formulas....negative cuz they see themselves in the hero(ine)...too nostalgic about the good ol’ days to move forward...not give a storyline or show its own a shot since there was a similar story to it....narrow minded, unappreciative of new forms of creativity.... ....can’t win an argument so they stalk me to repeat the same questions over and over and over and overrrrrrr again like an annoying brat (like they describe Korra)....? Answer: FUCK YES. ** You still have a small wee wee no matter how much you try to stalk me to change my mind ** Stage 5 Clingy Creeper. Yes
@@linhansboury1886 I’m just curious. Do you really believe that making a character relatable is the gold standard to making them good? Because I think there’s a bit more to it than that. Why are you so quick to label and dismiss people that don’t like Korra?
I honestly really like Republic City design and setting than any places in avatar universe, the steampunk design is very rare to be used especially animated series, and no matter what happen I can’t hate Korra, she reflects me so much that it’s scary. I literally went on actual depression and the end of Season 3 was so gut-wrenching.
I love both Korra and Aang. But tbh korra's character arc was far more interesting than Aang. She had an amazing character development. In ATLA the creators focused on the characters like Zuko, Iroh, Katara, Toph more. But here, Korra is the main focus. She's my favourite.
12:02 read the turf wars comic, they expand on their relashonship and shines light on how it started and continued on throughout the series. It didnt come out of the blue, some people weren't picking up the clues amd realizing OH WOW THEY AREN'T STRAIGHT
Yeah I rewatched the series and I kept thinking to myself “I mean yeah korra is flawed but she gets way too much hate.” Honestly, I felt like she was set up to fail in a lot of situations, especially with losing her connection to her past lives. I don’t think there was much of a way she could’ve prevented that.
Off topic but when I was scrolling the “wrong” on your TH-cam cover for the vid started fricking shaking and I was there for a full minute just going up and down like a weirdo trying to figure out how a still image could move.
Although my personality puts me as most likely a waterbender, which would still be cool, I honestly feel like fire bending would be coolest solely for the rocket boots. Korra vs Zaheer convinced me on that one
Sorry commenting again because I forgot to add something. When I rewatched the series, I never realized how much Korra got screwed over. Korra grew up so excited to be the avatar that she let her title define who she was. Which can also play into why Korra was a bit selfish when it came to getting what she wanted In order to be a complete avatar. When she lost her bending in book 1, she felt that her entire life purpose was gone and her life had no meaning. There are theories that she was gonna commit suicide so the next avatar can be born. Season 2 was Korra’s wake up call and the SIGNIFICANT turning point in her arc. Once she lost raava and the past avatars, she was about to give up. She lost her identity again. She needed to realize there was more to her than her title. Like you said, her journey was to become human, which I HEAVILY agree with. Korra was so consumed by her title as the avatar that she lost her human side. Which is why I love her journey so much. She needed to know what it was like to live like a human instead of just some avatar fighting machine. She didn’t have those opportunities in the South Pole.
I just watched both on a binge and while I like the original more Korra was definitely enjoyable I also love the fact Korra and Asami are together I was hoping for it after her and mako broke up so early on
People hate it because they compare it to ATLA. Why can't just people accept a show how it is. It's not ATLA-2. Of course it's the same universe but with different people and different generations.
Ozai is really underrated he had something that no Korra villain, except for Amon, had. They had a presence even if they weren't around you could feel their power. That is what makes a villain great. That is the reason I put him above Kuvira, she might have been in the top 10 most badass characters but her army and robots were not very impressive.
I feel the need to defend Azula. She wasn’t evil for evils sake. She was desperate for her fathers approval and being powerful was the way she knew how to do that. But she Was my favorite character so there’s that. I wanted say also that Korra didn’t have an Azula who I find to be the best villain but she had more better villains if that makes sense. Also Korra was awesome! Good video I’m glad TH-cam rec’ed it to me.
Austin Walker Yeah! I didn’t mean to say that Azula totally is evil for evils sake, but I guess more the idea that she enjoys being evil if that makes sense. But thank you for the support! I really appreciate it!
I've wanted to be an airbender ever since I saw the show as a kid and to this day I'm still vegetarian (trying to go vegan but it's difficult), I'm saving up to live nomadically for a bit, and I try not to hurt a fly. this series means a lot to me and I'm super happy everyone is talking about it edit: forgot to add I'm gonna get arrows tattooed on my legs (probably just knee to foot)
Awesome video. Just finished LOK last night. After watching ATLA, I heard LOK was bad, but I watched it anyway and kept an open mind. SO glad I didn't just ignore it based on shitless view-grab hate. I loved Korra, it's not flawless or anything, but probably my favorite show of all time.
Even though it had some low points (mainly because of Nickelodeon being difficult) the show stands as a HUGE testament to animated story-telling. And holy shit, the animation alone is incredible
I never saw The Last Airbender so I don't get the hatred of Korra. She's a sheltered teenager who had to learn how to become more than just the Avatar. The writers did a great job show casing her growth and dealing with being broken physically and emotionally. Nickelodeon really did the show an injustice with it's back and forth bull.
I've always been watching atla since I was a kid and this week I finished Korra for the first time, then I just got caught into this hurricane of people loving and hating on Korra, it messes you up, and sometimes you feel like... real hate from the haters (wtf?) but It's pretty cool that I'm seeying people defending Korra as well. I really enjoyed the show and it really shines in season 3 and 4, so I'm glad that have people like you that translate some feelings of someone who sees that the show have problems but still being pretty good and enjoyable. Ps.: Zully and Verick are just the best add to the series of all time *--
Yeah. Being evil isn’t the only thing she has going on. She actually does value her friendships with Ty Lee and Mai. But unfortunately, because she’s been raised in such a toxic environment she doesn’t know how healthy relationships work.
Idk why but for some reason I always thought that Korra and Asami were just really good friends cus the stuff they did I tend to do w my girlfriends and I was surprised when I heard from people they're a couple. The show didn't really depict their relationship all that deeply and noticeably in my op so I was very confused 😕
More Korra haters need to see this video. This is a perfect response to their negative views of the show. Also, as far as I'm concerned you can't hate Korra but love Zuko without being Atla bias because their character arcs are almost mirror images of each other.
@@criles Yeah man! This show never deserved any hate, and like another man defending korra said, "When people say it's bad, they mean they don't like it. What's actually true is that the show is good."
You like facts? Well here’s one for you. The part where he says that Korra faced challenges that Aang probably couldn’t handle and in the same breath saying that we should stop comparing the two shows was where any and all self awareness went right out the window.
@@austinjohnsen4430 The only difference is that he's making comparisons correctly. Y'all are trying to compare a very good show to a perfect show but you're seeing the very good show as trash all because the first one was better. He's taking more specific aspects of the show and seeing which ones are better and which ones are worse than ATLA.
@@thenecromancer4113 At 9:41 he tells us to stop comparing her to Aang, and his reason for it is because their completely different stories with different experiences. That’s a pretty strange way of wording it, wouldn’t you say? Doesn’t the fact that their different in some ways make the need to compare them more prevalent? Even though I don’t think their as different as some people make them out to be. At the end of both shows neither Aang nor Korra have to give up the the part of themselves they value most, commitment to the air nomad ways and being the avatar as Korra knows it respectively. And there’s also the fact they got new powers by being touched on the forehead by guardian angels, and being taken care of by Katara during a recovery phase, and hooking up with their respective love interests at the end of both shows. And why would you jump to the conclusion that I think Korra is trash when this was really about how this guy went about making this video?
Love your explanation, and I totally agree with the ozai part. Most people think his cool and all, and that korra's villains doesn't have development. I mean, Ozai literally doesn't have any. His just pure evil.. People hate korra because they miss aang. people say she's a baby for dealing such things and saying zuko has more potential. But they didn't even acknowledge the fact that she almost died and everyone doubted her. People having doubt on her is such a huge impact for someone who thought their whole life is based on helping others. And in my opinion. again, IN MY opinion, she's more relatable and had more character development than aang. Yes he did have development but his a pacifist who became a...pacifist. Probably one of the reasons why I don't find him that relatable is because his attitude is a little too perfect for a 12 year old kid. But yeah, his a monk alright...
bro no fair firebending is so cool. you could roast marshmallows on your fingers. everyone i know say i'd be an airbender, and they arent wrong, but firebending's cooler :,)
I liked Korra since the show came out and I love her even more now. Korra’s character was always amazing to me. I loved how Bryke created an avatar who was completely different from Aang. Korra is not a bad character, nor is she a bad avatar. Korra is actually a complex character who story was important and valid. The thing I hate with Atla stans is how they put Aang on a pedestal and make him the standard of what a good avatar is. So they don’t only downplay Korra, but the other avatars too. Korra is not a Mary Sue, that’s the most annoying and unoriginal argument ever when people describe why they don’t like her.
Uh, at 2:13 your source says that after averaging 3.8 million views in Season One, The legend of Korra got an order for 26 Episodes. This would mean that Season Three and Season Four were Green lite the same time. Although you are right about eh first and second season, the second half of the seasons were fully funded to the end. (13 in 3 and 13 in 4)
Yes! You are right, the last two were green lit simultaneously! I guess saying “each season was green lit” was easier than explaining all of that, but you’re right! Thanks!
Like it or not, people who say they’d want a second TLA series instead of Korra would get bored and would get backlash because there is nothing new. Lots of philosophy in TLA points to the importance of change, something that a lot of people find hard to grasp.
There was PLENTY of development for Korra and Asami's relationship. You see them being friends every season, and the only become closer. Then they become attracted to one another. This is plenty, if they were a hetero couple, no one would find it rushed that two friends got together. Those same interactions between a hetero couple would have played as flirtatious, but some people didnt notice the flirting because it was two women. Korra and Mako got way less development at the time their attraction began. No one says it was out of nowhere. People think Korrasami is rushed because we only saw the beginning, and the rest is implied. Would you have rather the writers just say oh yeah, they got married and lived happily ever after?
Snake Was Right because for us that are part of the LGBT🏳️🌈 community, we want to see a more developed and shown homosexual relationship for representation. Not just something tagged on last minute. And contesting the point by using Hetero relationships as the example is the exact opposite of the point.
@@criles 1, they weren't allowed to make it explicit, by nickelodeon, 2, it wasnt tacked on at the last minute, the writers said they were working with the idea since season 1. I would want to see another season, and they develop it in further print media about Korra. But to end it om their relationship, this was a very good way to do it. I'd have preferred an actual kiss, yes, but again, that was not up to the writers. The fact that they chose to do it anyway is a LANDMARK event for representation in media, and it was not done for cheap points either, as some shows cheaply market their products based on shallow "representation," with characters whose personality begins and ends with being queer. Korrasami was about the two people, it was deeper than they're just gay for each other, look at the gays, arent we so progressive? The point about hetero relationships is if you're stuck in the hetero perspective, you wont see the interactions between Korra and Asami as flirtatious and romantic. It would have played that way if Asami was a guy. It should play that way between Korra and Asami too, it's not supposed to be a shocking twist. The writers did their work, and I think it was a beautiful way to end the series. Would it have been impactful if they had already kissed on screen a bunch? I dont think so. I think it's a sweet way to show great things to come for Korra's life with a girl who treated her right. Do we really need more than that? I dont see a romantic relationship as just physical though, so as a member of the community myself, it was already a developed and beautiful relationship despite not having much PHYSICAL intimacy, there was a TON of emotional intimacy, which is really what matters.
Saying that they were friends every season seems like a very generous way of putting it. They felt more like acquaintances at best, and romantic rivals at worse in the first two seasons.
People compare Korra with Aang disregarding the fact that even though they are both avatars and reincarnations of each other, they aren't the same person that make different choices. Which is much more realistic for me.
ATLA is overrated. There was really not much going on for the protagonist; fool around, watch all his comrades work hard at gaining mastery for their bending and at the end, magically get his avatar state back and wins( with help from everyone excluding fire nation).
@@criles No problem, Korra is my favorite avatar and my 2nd favorite character (her dad Tonraq is my #1 favorite) and it's so good seeing that there are other people like you standing up for her. I'll admit the show has flaws (though I either don't notice or just ignore them) but at the end of the day nothings perfect, perfection is just a myth. Every thing has it's flaws and Korra was purposely made to have said flaws to help her grow as a character which ends happening throughout the series though if im honest I never had an issue with Korra's personality in the 1st 2 seasons, nor season 2 itself it and 3 are actually my favorite seasons in the series. I also don't agree with you on Korra and Asami's relationship development but I've already seen that other people have pointed that out and you've acknowledged them so Im going to leave it at that. I do wish Korra's family had more screen time as that's the main reason I love season 2, and I wish they didnt have korra cut her hair in season 4 she looks better with long hair especially when it's down (at least in my opinion, as ive always found korra to be attractive, especially with long hair) I honestly couldn't or rather I can't stand Aang, I can't relate to him like I do with Korra, and I hate pacifism, I prefer warriors. And all of the people who praise him like he's some kind of saint while shitting on Korra have further driven me away from him completely especially those who say he's more powerful than Korra, which isn't the case as the creators of the shows themselves have stated that Korra is more powerful than Aang (if you want the videos to where they say it I'm more than happy to oblige). But this video was still great nonetheless and I've personally saved it in my avatar playlist on youtube. I appreciate Korra, Kyoshi, and Kuruk especially Korra, and I respect those who stand up for her and appreciate the show.
Lok could've focused on Harmonic Convergence and re-establishing the Air Nation. Harmonic Convergence is a huge event considering its the reason why there was an Avatar. Too bad the production people didn't have much faith in it to begin with.
There’s a reason why TLOK isnt as objectively good as ATLA or objectively good at all. It’s just a mess. Sorry, not sorry. Besides the fact none of the characters were very memorable (maybe except Bolin), the plot or should I say plots just seem to come out of nowhere. I honestly think TLOK could have been a better show if they kept plot from the first season since the bender vs non bender plot actually made sense and was interesting. I mean, in a world full of benders who constantly cause war and violence, why wouldn’t the non benders retaliate? Also, I agree, Korra as a character wasn’t THAT bad but they could have done a lot with her character and didn’t. Instead, we’re left with a character who is constantly tortured so much so that she was left paralyzed and in a state of depression. She’s also arrogant and constantly making bad decisions and doesn’t know how to act because the “order of the white lotus” decided to keep her isolated from the world and not have any real experience. There’s just so many things that the show could have done better from character writing to story plotting. And I know the writers were pressured each time Nickelodeon decided to renew it for a new season and not knowing if the show will be renewed or not, but most people are going to judge the show for what it is rather than for how it was made which is completely valid. Time and time again, I go back to watching ATLA (and yes I grew up watching both so its not just nostalgia) and its not just that the characters felt genuine or that the plot itself was really good but the fact that it taught lessons that are still relevant today and expressed dark themes in a sensitive manner than a violent one. I wholeheartedly believe that any one of any age or gender could watch ATLA and enjoy it, I cant exactly say the same about TLOK.
the things that bothered me about korra was that, I didn’t like the new team avatar as much as the old one. they’re all fine characters, and maybe it’s because the old team avatar were all kids (closer to my age too) and they literally had to save the world together, that i liked them more, but the new team avatar just wasn’t it for me at first. I like Korra’s team avatar more now, though, after finishing the show and reading more of the comics. There were some other things that bothered me, like how republic city evolved ( because humans literally had 10,000 years to evolve technologically, we see huge cities even in the beginnings episodes) but maybe that’s because the fire nation had just hit their industrial revolution when sozin began conquering the other nations, and if that’s the case the development of republic city would make sense. I like the steampunk vibes though. And I just didn’t like how the beifong family were so separated (lin and su literally didn’t talk for 30 years, toph left for the swamp and didn’t talk to lin for literally 20 years) but opal and toph’s relationship seems cute, seeing toph as a grandma is nice.
I have to say one thing in defence of those who don't like her character. She starts of as the most typical protagonist ever and she becomes better much much later but many people won't wait 2.2 seasons to say I like this character. Their opinion about them has already been made and if it is a strong negative opinion it cannot change easily. I can understand that because I have felt it about other protagonists
I really hate how people hate on korra yes it has flaws atla has flaws too now I’m not saying all korra haters are brain dead cause a lot of them aren’t but I’ve faced some really brain dead ones saying things like korra got right back to normal after season 3 and how korra never improved acting like the villain kuvira didn’t exist and also I don’t think that almost everyone hates korra I just think the people who dislike korra are either followers or louder people
Criles the people who make videos on why korra is bad is just persuading people to not like the show and openly say how much it sucks which I completely don’t understand why do we wanna tell youtube that a show sucks that’s basically targeting followers that liked korra to dislike korra especially when people use the “theres so many videos about why it’s bad” excuse is just them in other words saying “i watch these videos and have no opinions for myself” I just really dislike korra haters
The main problem with Korra as you say is that each season is self-contained because the people making the show thought each season was going to be their last. This means that the story just never gets as developed as the story of the first series. Other than that, people don't give this show a fair shake. It deals with far more adult and complex issues, themes, and subtexts, while still having plenty of flashy action things for kids to watch.
I absolutely love both shows. Personally, I think S1 and the first half of S2 (for LOK) are the weakest (not bad, but not as great as the rest) but after that it's amazing. And aside from the earth queen, let's not forget the chilling death of P'li and the impactful death of Asami's father 💔.
I really enjoy the style of this video, the commentary with the stills of you on the side is really entertaining to watch! I haven’t finished avatar yet STILL (I know that’s super lame since it’s so old lmao) so I’m not watching the whole video because of spoilers. Still looks great though man, you deserve more subscribers for the amount of work you put into your videos 👌😌
Thank you! I really appreciate that! And yeah, I’d say save this video until you finish both series. I don’t fully spoil things, but just in case 😅. Thank you so much for your support!!!
Thank You, I always felt like Korra was more relatable than Aang and I think all of her foes were great.
Is it just me, but i feel like korra and asami's relationship started on Book 3.
Neil Espinosa no, I’d definitely agree with that
Yeah you can totally see them getting closer and closer from the first episodes of s3. And I think they built their relationship really well through s3 and 4
Season 3 felt like they just became close friends, season 4 was when it started showing more
they definitely showed more chemistry in season three but i definitely could see little bits of it in seasons one and two :)
It did start in season 3.
Korra's character development was realistic compared to today's events. She went through things that would cripple most people for life. I really don't understand why people hate her story, she's the Avatar in a different timeline. She's a total badass, and watching her grow up to become the Avatar in a world that didn't think they needed her was inspiring and tragic. She deserves more respect for all the obstacles she overcame.
Juan Davila I totally agree! That you for saying that!!
But her relationship with her father need to be addressed
I'm beginning to believe people dislike Korra because they want to stay broken. They haven't healed from their own personal psychological trauma yet. And they hadn't made any plans on putting any effort whatsoever into doing that. And so watching a show of a beautiful person finding the strength to do just that?? And depicting it in a realistic and relatable way?? Triggering!
I think people hate parts of her story. Especially early in the show.
The other thing to consider is that, personally, I think the show is in an unpolished state. Which seems to acrually heighten it's sense of psychological trauma even more. You can't just watch it, and then take it at face value. You ACTUALLY need to think. Americans hate that!
I am one of those cursed people who actually enjoyed Korra more since the beginning. It has been a ride. I am glad to see more people taking time to understand and enjoy it.
Same uwu
i think Kora is better👉👈
i really like both equally, and always enjoyed LoK since the first time I watched...
@@rosesaredeadandloveisfake1408 Is it better? Or do you just like it better?
@@austinjohnsen4430 I just liked the plot of korrabecause remember when Cora said she had to feel what true suffering was before she was able to connect with anybody and how Ang had to becomea avatar because he was too pure and korra was a little too ruthless maybe I'm not sure but I think you know what I mean it's like he had to learn to become an avatar and Cora had to learn how to become a human sorry this is very long 😁🖤🖤🖤
More people need to speak up for Korra!!
Yess!!!
I loved LoK, rewatching ATLA I cry with tears of nostalgia and also for the loss in a war, but with LoK I cried solely out of relatability. It showed me you can all-powerful and still be broken. It reminded me of being a wide-eyed kid and life and its issues draining it away from me, but being able to prevail despite it. The scene where she cried after watching Jinora get her tattoos, always makes me tear up. She's happy but she's in so much pain, and I felt similar situations.
Alex Benitez YES! I totally agree with you! The two are good and relatable in their own ways!
When I clicked on this video, I was so surprised about how small this channel is, the quality is so good
Racool thank you so much that means the world!
Ok I know this has been said by multiple people already, but the relationship between Korra and Asami had build up. Their conversation in the beginning of season 3, Asami taking care of Korra, Korra only writing to Asami and Korra and Asamis conversation at the reunion in season 4 just to name the scenes from memory. I would not call that not a lot of development, but more not as much as was possile. But even then, sometimes things like these can just happen.
AntasmaSonic oh yeah I agree, but with the external factors that worked against the true potential of “outness” their relationship could have had, I just wished it could have been more. But yeah, at least we got something.
@@criles Yeah more would have been nice I agree. But I am ok with what is.
@@criles true but one good thing their relationship is explored more in the comics
Yes yes yes! I love Korra so much! People are just blinded by those very flawed hate videos. Everyone needs to give Korra shot. It's so amazing ad mature
I can understand most criticisms of LOK but “Korra is a bad character” is not one I can. It’s obvious how much depth and development this character is given and the show isn’t even subtle about it. When people call her a Mary Sue I honestly don’t know what show they were watching because it wasn’t the same one I was.
Of all the things LOK messed up, Korra was not one of them. Korra was like Zuko levels of character arc carrying the series.
Hit the nail on the head
I'm loving how more creators are putting up videos in defense of Korra. Also, I'd be an airbender. I mean...the ability to fly! (with glider assistance) But to be so self-reliant to travel long distances just resonates with me. The freedom! This was one of the many reasons I thoroughly enjoyed LOK - to observe airbenders in action. In ATLA, it was indeed fascinating that Aang was sort of this double wild card which the title of the show couldn't be more direct about. He was not only the avatar, master of all elements but he was an airbender in a world that forgot what it was like to have airbenders around. Aang was the only source of airbending screentime, so it was a bit more limiting to observe and appreciate. But then LOK came along with Tenzin and family! And then the absolute best surprise Mike and Bryan pulled off was the "awakening" of airbenders after Harmonic Convergence! Seeing multiple people with different personalities and levels of expertise in the third season and then seeing them socially intergrated in the fourth season was more than I ever asked for. So good!
Edward Ramirez-Wright yeah! I loved the way they made that happen! And you’re right, it was a great way to be able to make it make sense for the “new Airbender lifestyle” after only Aang and his descendants had it!
God damn seeing all these videos on why LOK and Korra herself is actually good is starting to make me tear up...FINALLY PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING
just a heads up, Mike and Bryan left production of the netflix adaption to ATLA and did so due to creative differences as well as not so favorable reasons and given this is similar to what happened with the live action movie...well history seems tp love repeating itself
on another note, thank you for making this video. LOK gets so much of a bad rep because some folks can't get passed the issues it had and given some of the behind the scenes stuff that took place one can understand.
it also doesn't help when negative videos talking about Korra gain so much popularity that most people decide to blindly believe those videos without giving the show a chance for themselves
[ Shana Reviews ] I know 🥺🥺 I heard 😭. And thank you I appreciate that so much, I feel like I need to personally thank all of you for even watching this! I’m surprised people have as a small channel! But yeah, Korra and the show deserves so much more credit than they are given!!
This video needs more views. I always hated how Korra received so much undeserved hate.
Hector Vega thank you! I’m glad you agree!
@@criles I'm being very thankful that you're aren't one of those awful people that make terrible videos about her
I'm pretty one being more realistic has much to do with disliking korra and I'm certain that even in ATLA, kiyoshi was the most fan fav when it came to avatar not anng as she got her own novel as well
Also the music!!! Its so good especially the end credits song.
TromboneNinja YES!!
Oh please...that music really gives me nostalgia, it makes my cry when it played on the background when Tenzin spoke to Korra in the last episode 😭
(Srry for the bad English)
Tbh is lok the only show that I saw where teenagers act like teenagers (Imo). I’m 14 and I relate so much to korra and jinora. When I was younger I hated atla and loved lok so much. (Now I like atla) I never knew why I loved it so much. Now that I’m older and kinda had depression and felt lonely I see so much of myself in korra. I never get why people hate her. She literally acts like a teen. Mako acts like a teen to (and probably had never a relationship and that is why the love triangle happened what in my opinion isn’t stupid because many teens handle it like that.) and bolin ect to. some of those people forget that they probably acted just like korra. I never get either why many people say that lok ruined atla, while it isn’t true. Yes they changed some things but it isn’t that big that it ruined everything. And because they don’t like that they hate the whole show. They forget that the original makers from both shows wrote and made lok. And yes lok was dark but many teenagers deals with that shit. Not only adults. Even kids deals with that. And many shows don’t spend enough or any time on that and act like teenagers never goes through that and are “perfect”. I’m so happy that Michael and Bryan spend time on that themes and made lok!
savannah video's yeah! I totally agree! Very well said!!! I’m glad you liked the video!
Ur English is good! And yeah, i agree with you. I think atla is a good show, but lok is great. I find the story so much more compelling and relatable. I first watched it last fei, so this isn't coming from a feeling of nostalgia. I've watched critique videos saying why lok is bad. I appreciate their efforts, so i decided to re-watch the show with an open mind. Tbh, i kinda expected to like lok less after the re-watch, but I didn't. It still hits me. I keep finding ways that the show failed, but i just can't reason out. It's still a really great show
You remind me of someone who said that he likes how the characters in LOK actually act their age compared to the characters in ATLA, despite the fact that being forced to grow up faster than is normal is kinda a running theme in both shows. And personally I don’t think that making a character relatable is the gold standard to making them good, even though it certainly doesn’t hurt. Zuko for example is considered one of the best characters in the Avatar universe, yet how many fans actually relate to his abusive upbringing?
And not all the writers came back for Korra. Head writer Aaron Ehaz didn’t.
@@neilagangitlog lok is an alright show. It often takes the easy way out with a lot of the issues and questions it raises. For example we don’t even find out what becomes of republic city after Amon’s death at the end of season one, even though this whole bender and non bender conflict was the crux of that season’s plot. And before you say this was addressed in the next season, let me remind you that there originally wasn’t suppose to be any more seasons planned for Korra. And having Amon be outed as a crazy fraud felt like a cheap way to wrap everything up.
Similar thing happens in season two. Korra does not need to take any sides during a civil war, or make any other difficult choice because everyone eventually finds out who the real bad guy is once again.
And then there’s Korra herself throughout the entire show. For someone who’s greatest fear that the world doesn’t need the avatar anymore she never really has to face that fear. Each season introduces a new big bad villain that only the avatar can really hope to stop. It’s kinda similar to how Aang never needed to face his fear of taking a human life now that I think about it. Well what do you know, both these characters got to have their cake and eat it too in the end. Seeing Korra figure out what her place in society ought to be when there are no bad guys like that to fight could have been interesting.
So yeah, let’s not get so wrapped up in the ideas that this show had that we ignore they ultimately turned out in the end.
Korra’s internal struggles and the villains are the best parts of the whole show by far.
I think its weakest points is not fleshing out Team Avatar and the spirit world lore they add doesn’t fit with almost everything we learn about the spirit world in AtLA
Korra is best okay?!?!?!?!? I dont care what people say about it, Korra was my intro to the avatar series (yes i watched the shows in a different order thats not the point). Apart from book 2, everything else was just perfect in my opinion. Thank god i found someone like you to back up my opinion.
Also the korrasami thing was very hard to do in that time.
Susan Benes oh yeah totally!
Treadmill progress: fans in 2014 complain that since we're living in modern times this type of token representation should not be acceptable, fans in 2020 say the tokenism is understandable because it was "so long ago."
nickelodeon wouldn't really let bryan and micheal make it more obvious in the show, it sucks. we needed a korrasami kiss in the end :(
@@futurestoryteller Time gives you perspective, I guess. Love it or not, korrasami really was a milestone. Just by being canon, it opened up the door for same-sex romances in mainstream animation aimed at a young audience. Korrasami crawled, so bubbline can walk, so catadora can run.
Loved this video and although I have zero idea what type of bender I’d be still pretty good! I agree Korea is underrated Tenzin, Zaheer and Amon are some of my all time favorite characters from that universe. Wish I could have more Amon later but the episode with Zahere in season 4 is one of my favorites. Overall though I agree! I remember watching this show on my terrible laptop as it came out.
Xavier Snow Yeah! Like was it perfect? No, but I think it’s a good sequel. And maybe fire bending as well? But I might just be saying that cause of your love for Charizard haha 😂
I'm so glad people you exist to defend this wonderful show. I love this show and as much as I like ATLA, I just enjoy LOK a more (to an extent) I agree Korra is more relatable than Aang. (but then you lost me with Rey Skywalker, because she too is not a Mary Sue). Aang may of been a spiritual person but he never got spirits and humans to live among each other. it was Korra who brought them back to the material world and walk among humanity again (Despite that, Aang would of been proud that she proved Old Iron wrong and that spirits do have a place in the human world). Aang also couldn't bring the Air nation back, it was Korra who indirectly brought them back from the edge of extinction (again, Aang would of been proud of her)
Sub Scorpion#9 I totally agree with the points on Korra and Aang. Rey though, is another story haha 😅 maybe I can make a video for that eventually.
I get it you have you’re opinion about her. Everyone does. Just like this franchise too. I also wanted to point out that I also agree how the villains in Korra are more memorable than Ozai. Azula is an amazing villain with a tragic background, making her more interesting than her piece of shit father. Despite Vaatu just being the ultimate evil of the avatar universe, I also prefer him over Ozai. Amon is scary cool, Zaheer is a badass, and Kuvira is just fricking awesome To me. Amon, despite being a bender Himself, saw bending as evil and wanted non-benders to be equal. Zaheer wanted nations like the earth kingdom to be free from tyrants like the earth queen or idiots like Raiko. Kuvira wanted to bring her nation back in order and to become more advanced so they can be up to date with technology and order. To me Kuvira is my favorite (that does not mean I don’t like Zaheer, he’s awesome and I like his relationship with his team)
7:43 I liked her even in season 1. It made sense for her to be that way
Honestly I feel like people who hate Korra the character because of her attitude or personality never actually finished watching the show. Seasons 3 and 4 deal directly with that, and she grows a ton and changes her attitude by the end. How can you complain about that if you've watched it-- you just can't, because Korra at the end of Season 4 is not the same loudmouth, arrogant Korra from Season 1, Episode 1. She just isn't, and that's the point. She grows, she changes, and becomes a better person. Like I get it if you have gripes with the *show* for various reasons, (even ATLA has its own gripes too) but to hate on *Korra* the character herself by the end? It's just hard to do so.
Santos Chavez right!!! Like people are so quick to slap a label on it without giving it a chance!
I mean, can you really blame people not wanting to continue watching a show after being burnt out by two whole seasons?
@@austinjohnsen4430 not really. But if your gonna criticize Korra for “being a bad character and not developing throughout the series” at least look into the other two seasons to see whether you claim is correct or not. If people actually watched the series in its entirety and then judged whether she progressed or not, we probs wouldn’t be saying this
@@vulpiixfoxx Alright, imagine you’re giving a new show a shot. And after finishing two whole seasons you’re still not really won over by it. Would you really be all that pumped to continue watching it at that point? And I think a case can be made that Korra didn’t really develop as a character much once season 2 starts, despite Aang’s dialogue with her implying otherwise when he says we’re open to the greatest change. In the very first episode of book 2 she’s back to being a stuck up brat that takes bending for granted.
@@austinjohnsen4430 dude do you understand what I’m trying to say? I’m trying to say don’t judge a character and whether they progressed through the series or not just after watching half of the show. If you’re gonna fault Korra fault this why don’t you fault Zuko too? Since it’s pretty clear the two parallel each other.
I don’t have a problem with you not liking a series but if you claim one character from said series did not develop at all without looking at the seasons, then obviously people are gonna argue that point is invalid because the character develops in the seasons you didn’t bother watching for your research.
6:43
Azula didn't "choose" to be "evil" she was raised by a warmonger, she grew up an aristocrat knowing nothing but wartime without any opportunity to grow beyond the influences of her environment, unlike Zuko.
As for Ozai, he's a warmongering head of state. What else do we need to know about him and why?
Do we need to know Saddam Hussein's back story for him to be a believable or satisfying villain? What about Genghis Khan? Napoleon Bonaparte? Stalin? No.
National interests can turn anyone into a villain if it's *your* natural resources, *your* sovereign territory, *your* pain and *your* blood that is being abused in the name of that interest.
If I was going to criticize Ozai as a villain character it would be to remark upon how the focus on him as the main antagonist in the last airbender may have been too conceptually mature for the audience it was being written for, but frankly even that critique falls short of valid as the intended audience won't (didn't) question the source of Ozai's motivations but rather simply accepted him as the big bad. Indeed as the intended audience matures (or in this case has matured) they can look back and see how Ozai is a very real archetype that exists in their very real world.
Honestly I'd like to see more TH-camrs like you discuss what should even count as a valid critique of any body of work in any medium within the entertainment industry.
Is the fact that The Last Airbender's main story arc was stretched over 3 seasons something to be lauded or criticized, why?
Is the fact that The legend of Korra has multiple main arcs something to be lauded or criticized? Why?
What about the fact that each of the main arcs was deeper and more complex than the last airbender? Was the last airbender elegant or just too simple?
What if I'm a massive Dragon ball fan and actually *liked* the epic chest beam battle between the dark avatar and the true avatar? How is criticizing big beam battles valid?
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I would want to be a firebender, personally. Power through breathing sounds dope.
Peter Not Peter hell yeah!!!
Yoooo this video was fricken awesome! I love this video thank you. This deserves much more attention than the negative vids people made. I hope you make more avatar videos.
Nehemiah Hires thank you so much that means the world!!!!❤️❤️
Thank you so much for this video!!! I love Korra so much. Her journey is so beautifully written. It saddens me that a lot of people don't get it :(
L G I agree 😢
@@criles and i heard some snotty and ungrateful Aang fanboys are trying to get Aaron Ehasz to de-canonize Korra for the giggles and their own personal/selfish gains
I gotta admit I used to dislike Korra, but that’s mainly because I paused watching the series beginning book 3. After I finished, I take back what I said about her
Tomomi Kimura I love that!
I love Korra. I think she's a really fun character. I think one reason people hate her so much is because her writing sucks. This isn't the character's fault, it's Mike and Brian's fault. They started of in season 1 with such a great protagonist, but they didn't do good follow through of due diligence with any of her character arcs. In s1 we have a flawed young woman who defines herself by her bending and thinks she can punch her problems away. And her main conflicts are her inability to bend air and her fear of losing her bending to Amon. This seems like a perfect need vs. want scenario to teach Korra that she is more than just her bending and some solutions can't be solved by force but instead she beats Amon by punching him out a window and after losing her bending, she falls into a deep depression and views herself as unworthy of love and becomes near suicidal. It's not until after she gets her bending back that she is able to return Mako's affection and gets praised by Tenzin of being a fully realized Avatar. So her self worth is once again staked to her bending and she learns nothing at all. These character arc issues persist for all 3 seasons. Mike and Brian confuse trauma with character growth. The narrative of healing through trauma that is present in Legend of Korra is notable and I like that it's there but you can't substitute that for an actual character arc. At that point you're just tryna get cheap pathos out of the audience by threating your protagonist like a wounded puppy.
Friends-told firebender who wanted to be a waterbender? I think I found you, soulmate!
People who compare LoK and AtLA because LoK was a sequal really need to realize that although of the same universe and continuity, these are not the same stories.
Avatar the Last Airbender was a story about the adventure of Aang and his friends in their efforts to defeat the fire nation.
The Legend of Korra was about Korra herself and her development as an avatar and a person.
you do realize korra also follow the same formulas as ATALS despite her being the main focus but with lots of back and forth but in more smaller scale. Both series as a whole aren't that much different tbh
I love korra she reminds me a lot of zuko with a unique spin .
optimus Exstentail nihilist yeah! I can see that!
this video is awesome!
I had some points I wanted to say,
- I love literally everything (except for her disconnection with her past lives) about Korra.
- I love that she's a bratty teenager, because it's realistic. the way she was raised makes sense to how her personality is (she was stuck in the South Pole for 17 years, Aang got to explore the entire world when he was only 12), it's nice to have an avatar so different from Aang.
- I think the development between korrasami is more prevalent than people give it credit for. Korra ONLY wrote to asami while she was away, they had a ton of bonding and 1 on 1 time in season 3 (asami took care of Korra after getting poisoned), there was a scene where Korra blushed after Asami complimented her, and Korra always talked to Asami unlike anyone else in her life.
- I LOVE THE 20s/ WW2 SETTING. I love it. I love the way it's an expanded, alternate world that has elements of the real world. it's perfectly fitted, and we got MOTORCYCLE and CAR chases.... in an avatar world? yes please.
- the villains of seasons 1, 3 & 4 were all fantastic. Amon was so powerful and presented a real threat, he caused Korra to experience true fear for the first time. the red lotus and Zaheer had a great motive, their existence even builds on why Korra was sheltered, he SUCKED THE AIR out of the earth queen, may I go on. and Kuvira was quite charming, I really enjoyed having a female antagonist that was truly powerful, she was the embodiment of a power-hungry dictator who goes way too far in trying to achieve their goals.
- and of course, I love Korra's arc, and that by the time season 4 rolls around she wants to talk it out with Kuvira instead of fight her like a season 1 or 2 version of Korra would---without thinking twice.
sooooo yeah, I love Korra and I wish other people could get over the flaws and consider the elements the creators were working with and appreciate it as the beautiful show that it is.
Wheein's Dimple yes! I love this ❤️ thank you!
I love both shows and they are both very important to me in different ways. I can see why people may not like it, but some just love the hate Korra and shit on the fans. I don't get it
Kailie exactly!!!
Lots of people dislike korra on a personal level 🤷♂️. I love her, to me she's just a hot headed anime main character at the beginning and develops maturity as the show progresses
I really want to rewrite the show, but anime movie style instead of live action
People don't like the setting?? That's one of my fav parts, especially the jazz
The legend of Korra is amazing
I love Korra so much 🥺🥺🥺
Correction* Korrasami was developing since season 3 (you can see the development if you look more closely) and this all happened in 2014 before gay marriage in the US was even legalized. For the environment and restrictions the creators of Korra were given, I think LOK turned out great and is still one of my favorite shows even today.
Paul A. M. Right, which I said! I just of course am saying if cases were different, more development would have been nice 😊
Amazing video & I loved your take on Korra. Keep up the great work
THANK YOU!!!
I just don't think the destruction of the past lives was at all needed or justified based on a storytelling standpoint. All it served to do was make it harder for Korra without addressing the world-changing implications of losing almost all of human history. As soon as the past avatars are gone the show should have been solely focused on that, getting them back or starting a new cycle. But it wasn't, it was just pain for the sake of pain for Korra. Why destroy Aang, Kyoshi, Roku, Yangchen, and Kuruk (all characters we know and love) and barely mention it outside of Korra not having them for help like Aang did. Her journey should have been about becoming a more spiritual avatar, which could have involved her connecting with her past lives and Aang more and finding her own spirituality.
Also, why tf korra so damn gullible but never learns, you didn't address that.
Bottom line is I find it hard to believe that "Korra's story matters" when I question whether it needed to be or should have been told in the first place. I really enjoyed watching the show and I loved some of the characters more than ATLA, but I don't consider it totally cannon and I find it difficult to relate and feel bad for Korra. A lot of the pain she went through was her own fault when she played into the hands of basically every villain there was.
Personally I would have rather seen Aang figure out how to re-establish the air nomads when only one of his kids can bend, and deal with the aftermath of the war rather than a new avatar do it for him.
Good video but I just disagree and at least for me your arguments don't address the reason I dislike Korra herself and the show personally.
I largely agree here. I think Korra has all of the pieces to make a good character and decent show, but the show itself never uses those pieces in ways that make for a coherent whole, instead being bogged down by the segmented nature of the first two seasons and generally just lesser-quality writing than a lot of contemporary shows at the time (this show’s run was during the peak of Adventure Time’s popularity, btw, which I maintain is a much more consistently good and interesting show than Korra despite being more focused on comedy than Korra). For her worth, she is still by far the most developed of the Krew (Bolin and Mako barely get any character development despite their screen time, and Asami is hardly ever around a lot of the time), though it still feels like this series likes to just pile traumatic events on top of her every season as a substitute for actual character development. It’s really frustrating.
I would actually argue this. Honestly, think about it. How often did Aang use his connection to his past lives? He did it ALL THE TIME. Destroying the connections to the past avatars didn’t erase them from history, it just meant that Korra couldn’t pull the whole “hey Aang, you’re super spiritual, how do you do this thing?”. People would have constantly been questioning why she went for outside help instead of just talking to her past lives. That would remove the appearance of Toph and Zuko.
As for her being so gullible, the show actually addresses that. She lived her entire life in a compound where people were only ever helpful. Everyone she’s met for the first several episodes have acted no different. Why wouldn’t she give anyone the benefit of the doubt?
Another thing you mentioned is that you would have preferred her journey to be about becoming a more spiritual Avatar, but that wouldn’t make any sense for the person she is. At least not at the start. She’s a hothead, quick to fight, she was raised in the south where there was less focus on the spirits. She says specifically “I’m about as opposite an airbender as you can get.” Airbenders entire culture revolves around things she has trouble with. It’s like saying Aang should have focused all of his energy on earthbending.
I can understand wanting another Aang journey out of nostalgia, but would you really have been happy with an entire show about trying to reestablish airbending and helping rebuild after a war, and nothing else? No antagonist, nobody after him, no inner conflict? Isn’t that what made ATLA so special?
Most people hate her because she reflects a part of us (specially teenagers) that we aren't really proud of or something we haven't accepted about ourselves. She not only had to fight some villains who were a lot more powerful and terrifying than those we saw in ATLA, but she was also in a battle within herself, suffered from PTSD. I leaned a lot of things from korra. She taught me in order to overcome your fears and trauma you have to accept them at first. She taught me to accept myself. She taught me to never give up. And that's why i love her.
Afsheen Rahman ❤️🥰❤️
Or maybe Korra just reflects the traits that remind us why we don’t like certain people?
Korra had it worse because she was put in a forced sheltered situation so she was safe her entire life up until 17. She had nothing to be afraid of until she left the life she had ever known for the first time. This gave her a false bravado she knows not. She also never got to travel, mature, and learn through life experiences like other avatars.
Ang started his journey already knowing sorrow through losing his culture thus knowing sympathy and passion for others. Korra finally understands this after she was broken down and travelled by herself to find herself to put herself together. Therefore finally going through that journey every avatar must go through...which she did AFTER already mastering all four elements and the avatar stage.
There was so much GROWTH in this series that I don’t understand how people can hate her. You must be correct that they hate seeing the reflections of themselves through her. Because all of the other BS don’t make sense.
Also, how can you hate Korrasami. Korra needed someone who was just as tough and won’t take her shit, but understood her emotionally while being able to calm her down through explaining why and how when she was right/wrong. Mako couldn’t do it because he was objective and emotionally constipated.
They didn’t give Asami a bigger part. That’s the only disappointment I have with the writing. She was always in the background and had some things to say until the 3rd book, but even then she could’ve have had a bigger role like Mako did in the first two books to build a less ambiguous, not even grey, intentionally leaving us guessing whether or not Korrasami was a thing. Also, I say this because Asami is my favorite supporting character that needed something more than just an electrical glove that’s only effective in close combat when you had benders that could attack from feet away. Make it at least be able to shoot electricity. You’ve made up so much bending already. Make this up to have her in more fighting scenes rather than every once in awhile.
Also, Ang always had time to play, had down time, laughed a lot...it just wasn’t realistic. That was tiring to me. I couldn’t watch ATLA without skipping so many parts. I couldn’t relate to a 12yo. It was a great journey...don’t get me wrong. But I just couldn’t relate to him again and again. I could only rewatch it twice before I couldn’t take it anymore.
He also only had one true main villain, with great power, to focus on the entire time. Shit finally got serious the last few episodes when he finally took it seriously because time was running out. No more messing around blah blah blah. Yeah he’s a 12yo - that’s just it. He’s 12. He couldn’t already understood the balance of life - even if he is a monk with tattoos at a young age. Flash backs showed he only wanted to be a kid. So, I just can’t relate to that.
If you can relate to Ang and you are not 12...you are wishing to be a kid again rather than face the realities Korra faced in LOK - growing up and taking your job seriously while everyone hates you for it. In the show and IRL, never getting the recognition for it.
Man, this video got me all hyped. Thanks for making it. LOK needs more accolade than the BS hate it gets. I can write a whole essay and then some as to why LOK is freaking awesome.
Props to you and everyone going against the grain and standing up for LOK! 🙌❤️
** Not dissing ATLA, just backing up my shit unlike those who just jump on the “I hate so and so” band wagon before giving it a chance or truly understanding the underlying themes of such and such. Or thinking for themselves. **
@@linhansboury1886 Do you really need to be a kid in order to relate to Aang? He’s clearly someone who longs for the good old days before things changed for him. A feeling I think plenty of people can relate to. And I don’t think making a character relatable is the be all end all to making a character good, even though it certainly doesn’t hurt. Zuko is considered one of the greatest characters in Avatar as a whole, yet how many fans actually relate to his abusive upbringing?
And I think the real reason people don’t like Korra much is because she has traits that reminds them of why they don’t like certain people with those traits.
Korra, both the character and the show certainly get better. But for the people that were burnt out by two whole seasons at the beginning, can you really blame them for not wanting to continue on?
@@austinjohnsen4430 We already went through this. And the answer is no, again. Re-read my post because I’m sure I said relate to “again and again”; thus I can’t keep rewatching it. I can watch LOK as many times as I want and still be ok. That’s just me. If you want to watch ATLA, you do you. We’ve been over this sooooooo many times. Do you like finding my passages to rehash the same stuff or hear yourself repeat the same hymns of your negative thoughts of LOK?
If you can say all that about Zuko spare him due to his upbringing, you’re either a damn hypocrite or a sexist. I have REPEATEDLY said the same thing to you about Korra, yet you IGNORE it. So shush your mouth about LOK until you give the same respect to LOK as ATLA when the same references come up.
Same shit different storyline.
Can I blame people for being blind, can’t think for themselves...too vanilla to appreciate non-linear storyline formulas....negative cuz they see themselves in the hero(ine)...too nostalgic about the good ol’ days to move forward...not give a storyline or show its own a shot since there was a similar story to it....narrow minded, unappreciative of new forms of creativity....
....can’t win an argument so they stalk me to repeat the same questions over and over and over and overrrrrrr again like an annoying brat (like they describe Korra)....?
Answer: FUCK YES.
** You still have a small wee wee no matter how much you try to stalk me to change my mind **
Stage 5 Clingy Creeper. Yes
@@linhansboury1886 I’m just curious. Do you really believe that making a character relatable is the gold standard to making them good? Because I think there’s a bit more to it than that.
Why are you so quick to label and dismiss people that don’t like Korra?
I honestly really like Republic City design and setting than any places in avatar universe, the steampunk design is very rare to be used especially animated series, and no matter what happen I can’t hate Korra, she reflects me so much that it’s scary. I literally went on actual depression and the end of Season 3 was so gut-wrenching.
I love both Korra and Aang. But tbh korra's character arc was far more interesting than Aang. She had an amazing character development. In ATLA the creators focused on the characters like Zuko, Iroh, Katara, Toph more. But here, Korra is the main focus. She's my favourite.
Afsheen Rahman agreed!!
12:02 read the turf wars comic, they expand on their relashonship and shines light on how it started and continued on throughout the series. It didnt come out of the blue, some people weren't picking up the clues amd realizing OH WOW THEY AREN'T STRAIGHT
Yeah I rewatched the series and I kept thinking to myself “I mean yeah korra is flawed but she gets way too much hate.” Honestly, I felt like she was set up to fail in a lot of situations, especially with losing her connection to her past lives. I don’t think there was much of a way she could’ve prevented that.
I like Cats yeah! Like I said, I can’t see any avatar really preventing that
Off topic but when I was scrolling the “wrong” on your TH-cam cover for the vid started fricking shaking and I was there for a full minute just going up and down like a weirdo trying to figure out how a still image could move.
Rhea Messenger OMG 😅 I wish I could say I know how, but that’s an interesting experience to say the least 😂😂
Criles ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fire bending I guess would be pretty cool. I mean, if I got blue flames and lightning like Azula, I guess that’s close enough to water bending 😉
Although my personality puts me as most likely a waterbender, which would still be cool, I honestly feel like fire bending would be coolest solely for the rocket boots.
Korra vs Zaheer convinced me on that one
Sorry commenting again because I forgot to add something. When I rewatched the series, I never realized how much Korra got screwed over. Korra grew up so excited to be the avatar that she let her title define who she was. Which can also play into why Korra was a bit selfish when it came to getting what she wanted In order to be a complete avatar. When she lost her bending in book 1, she felt that her entire life purpose was gone and her life had no meaning. There are theories that she was gonna commit suicide so the next avatar can be born. Season 2 was Korra’s wake up call and the SIGNIFICANT turning point in her arc. Once she lost raava and the past avatars, she was about to give up. She lost her identity again. She needed to realize there was more to her than her title. Like you said, her journey was to become human, which I HEAVILY agree with. Korra was so consumed by her title as the avatar that she lost her human side. Which is why I love her journey so much. She needed to know what it was like to live like a human instead of just some avatar fighting machine. She didn’t have those opportunities in the South Pole.
I just watched both on a binge and while I like the original more Korra was definitely enjoyable I also love the fact Korra and Asami are together I was hoping for it after her and mako broke up so early on
44SHOTS yeah!! I totally agree!
Hey man. Follow your passion, like a true firebender! I'm subscribing because this is some good content. :))
Benjamin De Winter thank you!!
I think Korra is aging well.
therealmanos agreed!
People hate it because they compare it to ATLA. Why can't just people accept a show how it is. It's not ATLA-2. Of course it's the same universe but with different people and different generations.
Afsheen Rahman EXACTLY!
Of course people compare it to avatar. Isn’t that what folks do with every sequel ever?
Ozai is really underrated he had something that no Korra villain, except for Amon, had. They had a presence even if they weren't around you could feel their power. That is what makes a villain great. That is the reason I put him above Kuvira, she might have been in the top 10 most badass characters but her army and robots were not very impressive.
Not really ozai is still lame
@@kei7540 Yep
I feel the need to defend Azula. She wasn’t evil for evils sake. She was desperate for her fathers approval and being powerful was the way she knew how to do that. But she Was my favorite character so there’s that. I wanted say also that Korra didn’t have an Azula who I find to be the best villain but she had more better villains if that makes sense. Also Korra was awesome! Good video I’m glad TH-cam rec’ed it to me.
Austin Walker Yeah! I didn’t mean to say that Azula totally is evil for evils sake, but I guess more the idea that she enjoys being evil if that makes sense. But thank you for the support! I really appreciate it!
Criles LoL I was thinking I was being overly sensitive! 😂
I've wanted to be an airbender ever since I saw the show as a kid and to this day I'm still vegetarian (trying to go vegan but it's difficult), I'm saving up to live nomadically for a bit, and I try not to hurt a fly. this series means a lot to me and I'm super happy everyone is talking about it
edit: forgot to add I'm gonna get arrows tattooed on my legs (probably just knee to foot)
Orca oh sweet!
Awesome video. Just finished LOK last night. After watching ATLA, I heard LOK was bad, but I watched it anyway and kept an open mind. SO glad I didn't just ignore it based on shitless view-grab hate. I loved Korra, it's not flawless or anything, but probably my favorite show of all time.
Even though it had some low points (mainly because of Nickelodeon being difficult) the show stands as a HUGE testament to animated story-telling. And holy shit, the animation alone is incredible
I totally agree thank you!!!!!
I LOVE THIS
Josh Tambor THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I'm a earthbender but i also feel like a firebender
I actually love The Legend of Korra more than The Last Airbender
I never saw The Last Airbender so I don't get the hatred of Korra. She's a sheltered teenager who had to learn how to become more than just the Avatar. The writers did a great job show casing her growth and dealing with being broken physically and emotionally. Nickelodeon really did the show an injustice with it's back and forth bull.
I've always been watching atla since I was a kid and this week I finished Korra for the first time, then I just got caught into this hurricane of people loving and hating on Korra, it messes you up, and sometimes you feel like... real hate from the haters (wtf?) but It's pretty cool that I'm seeying people defending Korra as well. I really enjoyed the show and it really shines in season 3 and 4, so I'm glad that have people like you that translate some feelings of someone who sees that the show have problems but still being pretty good and enjoyable.
Ps.: Zully and Verick are just the best add to the series of all time *--
Nicholas Oliveira ❤️❤️❤️
Azula is overlooked victim of Ozai's Abuse and I dont think she just "wants" to be evil.
Yeah. Being evil isn’t the only thing she has going on. She actually does value her friendships with Ty Lee and Mai. But unfortunately, because she’s been raised in such a toxic environment she doesn’t know how healthy relationships work.
I want to be a fire bender, but my sister saids I have the personality of a earth bender
That Twitter post is exactly why I like Korra. I find her to be way more relatable than Aang
Idk why but for some reason I always thought that Korra and Asami were just really good friends cus the stuff they did I tend to do w my girlfriends and I was surprised when I heard from people they're a couple. The show didn't really depict their relationship all that deeply and noticeably in my op so I was very confused 😕
More Korra haters need to see this video. This is a perfect response to their negative views of the show. Also, as far as I'm concerned you can't hate Korra but love Zuko without being Atla bias because their character arcs are almost mirror images of each other.
Except Zuko’s story wasn’t bogged down by relationship drama as much. Or spirit nonsense.
Love him or hate him, he's spitting straight facts.
The Necromancer I appreciate this! Thank yo so much!
@@criles Yeah man! This show never deserved any hate, and like another man defending korra said, "When people say it's bad, they mean they don't like it. What's actually true is that the show is good."
You like facts? Well here’s one for you. The part where he says that Korra faced challenges that Aang probably couldn’t handle and in the same breath saying that we should stop comparing the two shows was where any and all self awareness went right out the window.
@@austinjohnsen4430 The only difference is that he's making comparisons correctly. Y'all are trying to compare a very good show to a perfect show but you're seeing the very good show as trash all because the first one was better. He's taking more specific aspects of the show and seeing which ones are better and which ones are worse than ATLA.
@@thenecromancer4113 At 9:41 he tells us to stop comparing her to Aang, and his reason for it is because their completely different stories with different experiences. That’s a pretty strange way of wording it, wouldn’t you say? Doesn’t the fact that their different in some ways make the need to compare them more prevalent? Even though I don’t think their as different as some people make them out to be. At the end of both shows neither Aang nor Korra have to give up the the part of themselves they value most, commitment to the air nomad ways and being the avatar as Korra knows it respectively. And there’s also the fact they got new powers by being touched on the forehead by guardian angels, and being taken care of by Katara during a recovery phase, and hooking up with their respective love interests at the end of both shows. And why would you jump to the conclusion that I think Korra is trash when this was really about how this guy went about making this video?
This was a very good video
AyyUltra thank you!
Love your explanation, and I totally agree with the ozai part. Most people think his cool and all, and that korra's villains doesn't have development. I mean, Ozai literally doesn't have any. His just pure evil..
People hate korra because they miss aang. people say she's a baby for dealing such things and saying zuko has more potential. But they didn't even acknowledge the fact that she almost died and everyone doubted her.
People having doubt on her is such a huge impact for someone who thought their whole life is based on helping others.
And in my opinion. again, IN MY opinion, she's more relatable and had more character development than aang. Yes he did have development but his a pacifist who became a...pacifist. Probably one of the reasons why I don't find him that relatable is because his attitude is a little too perfect for a 12 year old kid. But yeah, his a monk alright...
When he said zaheer was the most interesting villan I literally had to pause the video and catch my breath because I was laughing so hard
Everett Wood I mean in Avatar’s stories, I’d say so, but you know to each their own.
I’d be a water bender no doubt.
Love this vid man thanks for making it
bro no fair firebending is so cool. you could roast marshmallows on your fingers. everyone i know say i'd be an airbender, and they arent wrong, but firebending's cooler :,)
tiramisu haha firebending is cool, but still wish people would think of me as a firebender😅😅
@@criles ahdsjagjhf yeah i get it
I liked Korra since the show came out and I love her even more now. Korra’s character was always amazing to me. I loved how Bryke created an avatar who was completely different from Aang. Korra is not a bad character, nor is she a bad avatar. Korra is actually a complex character who story was important and valid. The thing I hate with Atla stans is how they put Aang on a pedestal and make him the standard of what a good avatar is. So they don’t only downplay Korra, but the other avatars too. Korra is not a Mary Sue, that’s the most annoying and unoriginal argument ever when people describe why they don’t like her.
Combat Medic I agree! Thank you!
Uh, at 2:13 your source says that after averaging 3.8 million views in Season One, The legend of Korra got an order for 26 Episodes. This would mean that Season Three and Season Four were Green lite the same time. Although you are right about eh first and second season, the second half of the seasons were fully funded to the end. (13 in 3 and 13 in 4)
Yes! You are right, the last two were green lit simultaneously! I guess saying “each season was green lit” was easier than explaining all of that, but you’re right! Thanks!
You had me at season 2 being dumb
I've literally always liked The Legend of Korra more than The Last Airbender. I love the the story telling personally. Great video btw, subbed🙏🙌
The Culture View Thank you so much! I really appreciate the support!!!! ❤️
Like it or not, people who say they’d want a second TLA series instead of Korra would get bored and would get backlash because there is nothing new. Lots of philosophy in TLA points to the importance of change, something that a lot of people find hard to grasp.
YES!!
Thank you for the review 😘😘😘
Stop comparing Korra to Aang. Also Korra went through shit that I don’t think Aang could have handled. Self awareness? What’s that.
There was PLENTY of development for Korra and Asami's relationship. You see them being friends every season, and the only become closer. Then they become attracted to one another. This is plenty, if they were a hetero couple, no one would find it rushed that two friends got together. Those same interactions between a hetero couple would have played as flirtatious, but some people didnt notice the flirting because it was two women.
Korra and Mako got way less development at the time their attraction began. No one says it was out of nowhere.
People think Korrasami is rushed because we only saw the beginning, and the rest is implied.
Would you have rather the writers just say oh yeah, they got married and lived happily ever after?
Snake Was Right because for us that are part of the LGBT🏳️🌈 community, we want to see a more developed and shown homosexual relationship for representation. Not just something tagged on last minute. And contesting the point by using Hetero relationships as the example is the exact opposite of the point.
@@criles 1, they weren't allowed to make it explicit, by nickelodeon, 2, it wasnt tacked on at the last minute, the writers said they were working with the idea since season 1.
I would want to see another season, and they develop it in further print media about Korra. But to end it om their relationship, this was a very good way to do it. I'd have preferred an actual kiss, yes, but again, that was not up to the writers. The fact that they chose to do it anyway is a LANDMARK event for representation in media, and it was not done for cheap points either, as some shows cheaply market their products based on shallow "representation," with characters whose personality begins and ends with being queer.
Korrasami was about the two people, it was deeper than they're just gay for each other, look at the gays, arent we so progressive?
The point about hetero relationships is if you're stuck in the hetero perspective, you wont see the interactions between Korra and Asami as flirtatious and romantic. It would have played that way if Asami was a guy. It should play that way between Korra and Asami too, it's not supposed to be a shocking twist. The writers did their work, and I think it was a beautiful way to end the series. Would it have been impactful if they had already kissed on screen a bunch? I dont think so. I think it's a sweet way to show great things to come for Korra's life with a girl who treated her right. Do we really need more than that?
I dont see a romantic relationship as just physical though, so as a member of the community myself, it was already a developed and beautiful relationship despite not having much PHYSICAL intimacy, there was a TON of emotional intimacy, which is really what matters.
Saying that they were friends every season seems like a very generous way of putting it. They felt more like acquaintances at best, and romantic rivals at worse in the first two seasons.
People compare Korra with Aang disregarding the fact that even though they are both avatars and reincarnations of each other, they aren't the same person that make different choices. Which is much more realistic for me.
YES!
ATLA is overrated. There was really not much going on for the protagonist; fool around, watch all his comrades work hard at gaining mastery for their bending and at the end, magically get his avatar state back and wins( with help from everyone excluding fire nation).
One of the best videos ive watched
Elijah Butcher 😭😭 that means the world thank you so much ❤️
@@criles No problem, Korra is my favorite avatar and my 2nd favorite character (her dad Tonraq is my #1 favorite) and it's so good seeing that there are other people like you standing up for her.
I'll admit the show has flaws (though I either don't notice or just ignore them) but at the end of the day nothings perfect, perfection is just a myth. Every thing has it's flaws and Korra was purposely made to have said flaws to help her grow as a character which ends happening throughout the series though if im honest I never had an issue with Korra's personality in the 1st 2 seasons, nor season 2 itself it and 3 are actually my favorite seasons in the series.
I also don't agree with you on Korra and Asami's relationship development but I've already seen that other people have pointed that out and you've acknowledged them so Im going to leave it at that. I do wish Korra's family had more screen time as that's the main reason I love season 2, and I wish they didnt have korra cut her hair in season 4 she looks better with long hair especially when it's down (at least in my opinion, as ive always found korra to be attractive, especially with long hair)
I honestly couldn't or rather I can't stand Aang, I can't relate to him like I do with Korra, and I hate pacifism, I prefer warriors. And all of the people who praise him like he's some kind of saint while shitting on Korra have further driven me away from him completely especially those who say he's more powerful than Korra, which isn't the case as the creators of the shows themselves have stated that Korra is more powerful than Aang (if you want the videos to where they say it I'm more than happy to oblige).
But this video was still great nonetheless and I've personally saved it in my avatar playlist on youtube. I appreciate Korra, Kyoshi, and Kuruk especially Korra, and I respect those who stand up for her and appreciate the show.
I like Korra too. I some ways I prefer her story over ATLA and I love Korra's arc about identity.
Lok could've focused on Harmonic Convergence and re-establishing the Air Nation. Harmonic Convergence is a huge event considering its the reason why there was an Avatar. Too bad the production people didn't have much faith in it to begin with.
i just wanna know thE SONG
Aishwarya Sankhé which song?
@@criles the song that's playing in the background from 1:35 onwards
Aishwarya Sankhé it’s “avatar's love (lo fi)” by samuel kim and mik 😁
There’s a reason why TLOK isnt as objectively good as ATLA or objectively good at all. It’s just a mess. Sorry, not sorry. Besides the fact none of the characters were very memorable (maybe except Bolin), the plot or should I say plots just seem to come out of nowhere. I honestly think TLOK could have been a better show if they kept plot from the first season since the bender vs non bender plot actually made sense and was interesting. I mean, in a world full of benders who constantly cause war and violence, why wouldn’t the non benders retaliate? Also, I agree, Korra as a character wasn’t THAT bad but they could have done a lot with her character and didn’t. Instead, we’re left with a character who is constantly tortured so much so that she was left paralyzed and in a state of depression. She’s also arrogant and constantly making bad decisions and doesn’t know how to act because the “order of the white lotus” decided to keep her isolated from the world and not have any real experience. There’s just so many things that the show could have done better from character writing to story plotting. And I know the writers were pressured each time Nickelodeon decided to renew it for a new season and not knowing if the show will be renewed or not, but most people are going to judge the show for what it is rather than for how it was made which is completely valid. Time and time again, I go back to watching ATLA (and yes I grew up watching both so its not just nostalgia) and its not just that the characters felt genuine or that the plot itself was really good but the fact that it taught lessons that are still relevant today and expressed dark themes in a sensitive manner than a violent one. I wholeheartedly believe that any one of any age or gender could watch ATLA and enjoy it, I cant exactly say the same about TLOK.
the things that bothered me about korra was that, I didn’t like the new team avatar as much as the old one. they’re all fine characters, and maybe it’s because the old team avatar were all kids (closer to my age too) and they literally had to save the world together, that i liked them more, but the new team avatar just wasn’t it for me at first. I like Korra’s team avatar more now, though, after finishing the show and reading more of the comics.
There were some other things that bothered me, like how republic city evolved ( because humans literally had 10,000 years to evolve technologically, we see huge cities even in the beginnings episodes) but maybe that’s because the fire nation had just hit their industrial revolution when sozin began conquering the other nations, and if that’s the case the development of republic city would make sense. I like the steampunk vibes though.
And I just didn’t like how the beifong family were so separated (lin and su literally didn’t talk for 30 years, toph left for the swamp and didn’t talk to lin for literally 20 years) but opal and toph’s relationship seems cute, seeing toph as a grandma is nice.
Thank you
I have to say one thing in defence of those who don't like her character. She starts of as the most typical protagonist ever and she becomes better much much later but many people won't wait 2.2 seasons to say I like this character. Their opinion about them has already been made and if it is a strong negative opinion it cannot change easily. I can understand that because I have felt it about other protagonists
I really hate how people hate on korra yes it has flaws atla has flaws too now I’m not saying all korra haters are brain dead cause a lot of them aren’t but I’ve faced some really brain dead ones saying things like korra got right back to normal after season 3 and how korra never improved acting like the villain kuvira didn’t exist and also I don’t think that almost everyone hates korra I just think the people who dislike korra are either followers or louder people
Danganronpafan OneOneZeroThreeSeven Yeah, I totally get that!
Criles the people who make videos on why korra is bad is just persuading people to not like the show and openly say how much it sucks which I completely don’t understand why do we wanna tell youtube that a show sucks that’s basically targeting followers that liked korra to dislike korra especially when people use the “theres so many videos about why it’s bad” excuse is just them in other words saying “i watch these videos and have no opinions for myself” I just really dislike korra haters
4:12 And Suki
You right
The main problem with Korra as you say is that each season is self-contained because the people making the show thought each season was going to be their last. This means that the story just never gets as developed as the story of the first series.
Other than that, people don't give this show a fair shake. It deals with far more adult and complex issues, themes, and subtexts, while still having plenty of flashy action things for kids to watch.
Paul T Sjordal very true! It deserves way more credit than it’s given!
I love korra she is the best
I love korra
*sees title* well eeeeexcuse mee?
Haha I like Korra too! The title is supposed to be towards the haters of Korra 😂😂
I absolutely love both shows. Personally, I think S1 and the first half of S2 (for LOK) are the weakest (not bad, but not as great as the rest) but after that it's amazing. And aside from the earth queen, let's not forget the chilling death of P'li and the impactful death of Asami's father 💔.
I actually think that the villains Korra faced were more dangerous and better written than Ozai, well maybe except Unalaq
There is no movie in Ba Sing Se.
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