Session 0: DM: OK... How did the party meet? Player 1: I saw Player 2's Summoning Sigil and I summoned them. Player 3: Yeah, I originally invaded Player 1, but then they beat me, so I put a Summon Sign before the boss. DM: Yeaaaaah. OK. And how did you all respond when you got summoned? Player 2: I just raised and lowered my shield like a thousand times and moved off left or right by an inch at a time really fast. Player 1 & 3: I Praised The Sun.
I know this is a joke, and a funny one, but I'm legit worried this is the extent of the story/RP thought the devs gave this game based on the q&a from Steam Forged.
I'm certainly on the fence about picking this up. I really enjoyed the games and even played (and painted) the board game adaptation my buddy picked up. I know at least half the table would want to play this but a couple others may not. I'll be looking forward to hearing your review on this later on.
Very interested in this and grateful for you digging into it. Like seemingly most folks, my knee-jerk reaction is that 5e is the wrong system for a Soulsborne game, but I'm genuinely curious to see what they do, particularly with the death and hollowing mechanics. Thanks again and looking forward to the next video.
I've actually been looking forward to this game. It's got stuff I liked from previous editions and death means something without being a horrible meat grinder.
I actually love the respawn mechanic! Like I want my character to die and stuff, but I don't want lose it and have to make a new one or wait forever until the party resurrects it...
I really like the idea of position. It's a way more realistic approach to a health bar. You fight, lose stamina, get exhausted when you parry incoming attacks or get hit but your armor saves you. Until you lose your position and one brutal attack crushes you.
I know that I know literally nothing about how the rules for Dark Souls (the RPG) is going to be, but I have played a LOT of the video game, and I don't really consider a game where dying has no lasting effect "grittier" than D&D. It actually sounds like (since they expect you to die MANY times per adventure) that dying is almost a joke in its lack of consequences.
I would love to see some of the stuff in more detail than they have talked about on their blog, like the classes and features, how position scales compared to 5e, what to expect from the monster stat blocks etc
Very interested to hear more! Really cool of them to send you a copy so you can cover it. So does it basically use the core 5e rules and then builds on top of it?
The fact that it's based on 5e means we can port good mechanics to 5e if there are any, which is great. Also, 5e is the first TTRPG for a lot of players so it makes sense to lower the entry bar and attract more people.
I'll definitely be picking this up. Im running a homebrew 5e campaign and adding Dark Souls bosses and monsters into the mix will make it so much better. Already used the boardgames miniatures for boss fights and my players were terrified. Can't wait.
I hope they can capture some of the themes of the souls games in this. It is often up to interpretation, esoteric and mysterious while also having some interesting philosophical themes. so hope that they can capture that.
I came into this mainly because I wanted a good single play world that kind on easy to grasp but not the same as D&D5E. Its got the gothic horror theme that I felt could be a good theme. I also matched in with the board game as well and so far it has worked well. My girlfriend in not a games and some of the elements actually worked better then I expected. Worth a try.
I look forward to hearing a follow up, I just got my copy and my first impression is that I am underwhelmed from how much is just copy and paste DnD 5e books or Dark Souls 3 screenshots / text. It has a lot of cool ideas just a little underwhelming. The biggest thing I am curious about is how you guys fixed "Knight" with the Origin errors (The book is stuffed full with errors btw). Since the strongest a Knight can start the game with is 15 strength, 1 away from being able to wear his armor. I am curious if it is supposed to be 16 to get a +3 but I can't tell since it is an error in the book. Anyway, look forward to hearing a continuation of this one!
I find it interesting that it’s using the 5th edition open game license stuff, a highly modified version, but 5th edition nonetheless instead of a new game system entirely
I'm really interested in how they're going to adapt Dark Souls-like combat imto 5e, something which I have been mulling around in my head for a while now.
I'm excited to hear more about this. I also ran a brief souls game using 5e and alot of stuff (for me at least) was tweaked and added but thankfully my players were experienced and could keep up but id worry about new people. Sounds awesome tho I'm thinking of getting it to see what they did and what they didnt do but I did.
You know, with Animal Adventures, also by Steamforged Games, you can legit have your very own Great Wolf Sif PC or even an Alvina of The Darkroot Woods Cat PC for this. Dragonborn would also let you be a Path of The Dragon/Dragon Torso Stone user.
I am not going to lie, usually RPG settings arent my thing, but I am very intrigued and excited by this Dark Souls one. Especially since it uses 5e as a basis which I think can be done well, so I would actually be extremely interested in picking this one up, or seeing a bit of content around it.
Video is loading as I type, but as a lifelong Souls fan and lore enthusiast, I'm excited to lead a session of this if it ends up feeling good to play in the review.
I pre-ordered the collector's edition of this game after watching the Q&A stream last week. This might be compatible with D&D 5e, it's as much 5e like the new Stargate SG-1 rpg is 5e.
We getting an update on this soon? Hopefully you can actually talk about the death mechanic - exp and money being the same thing etc. I’m going to be creating some things in TaleSpire for this but someone already made a dark souls inspired mega dungeon :D. Looking forward to hearing more about your thoughts!!!
I absolutely LOVE the games and heavily enjoyed the board game, despite playing it wrong for months. The card game was a bit meh but I'm excited to try this out. Wonder if they turned any of the builds (like Giant Dad) into NPCs
I am 100% getting it JUST for the bestiary alone but I think everythin else will be fairly awesome since I am mainly a 5e player/dm lookin for some spice to the game
What do you mean death would be more gritty or impactful in a dark souls game? If anything it should be the opposite. Death for the undead is at worst a trip back to the last bonfire.
The issue is, for the Undead PCs in the Dark Souls TTRPG, is that everytime you die, you end up losing more and more of your Humanity and you'll reach a point where it'll be all gone and your PC goes Hollow. Which is Game Over.
So you have a certain number of lives, & presumably pick up extra mans from nosses & other rewards. Again, dark souls is dark & gritty in a lot of ways, but death mechanics isn't one of them.
@@Malisteen I've always kind of been against the opinion that Dark Souls is Dark and Gritty. Maybe it's cause Dark Souls shaped my view of the fantasy genre. But like even in the darker moments, such as The Profaned Capital, I just can't see it as some Grimdark setting.
So… it’s a game that have absolutely nothing to do with D&D or 5e but just slaps the 5e label on the roof in hopes it helps sales with the promise of familiarity. Does it have anything in common with D&D besides action-bonus-reaction-movement mechanics? Are 5e standard monsters compatible for use with this game?
I wish they had gone with DS 1/2 'undead' instead of DS3 'unkindled'. The DS3 framework is very prescriptive & limiting. Also very backwards looking. DS1 and DS2 both tell thrir own stories, and in doing so provide a framework that you could use to tell your own story. DS3, while a good game, isn't so much its own thing. It's instead about it's own franchisd, DS1 in particular. The result is a much narrower scope, bordering on navel gazing, and that's built into the kind of creature the protagonist is. DS 1 & 2's undead could be anyone, and could do anything. DS 3's unkindled all have to have been former failed attempts to link the fire, brought back to try again. That's some pretty tight shackles on your backstory & motivation, at least to start.
I have a little interest out of curiosity, but not too much. I disagree and like alignment personally but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I can understand and agree with looser alignment and people choosing no alignment for PCs in their campaigns. I think adding typically and encouraging two play-styles one with and one without as a session zero decision is the solution that benefits everyone's playstyles most. Alignment is still very useful for DMs to easily understand how to run NPCs and other creatures, and for players whom it is helpful for. How is this gritter? Did I miss something? Death is a mild inconvenience and you automatically re-spawn... like instantly.... That's FAR less gritty than regular D&D! Even At high levels it takes prep, spell slots, diamonds! And is pretty much impossible before level 5! If you want gritty play regular D&D LV 1-3 and a bit of LV 4! Bloodied mechanic is one of the decent things from 4e! Why is this 5e D&D based at all? If it does away with so many core 5e D&D things? Races, Alignment, regular stats and HP as separate things, etc. This seems like it should NOT be 5e based but an entirely separate TTRPG.... Is it a forced 5e compatible for predicted sales? To make it seem easier to pick up for people already playing and used to 5e rather than learning an entirely new system? Wait wasn't there a Japanese licensed Dark Souls TTRPG?! What aren't they licensing and translating that?! Seems cash grabby and I don't know enough about how it actually runs and how compatible it is with the rest of 5e. Seems like it might be 'too modded' form standard 5e to really even be 5e anymore. Honestly at that point make your own separate TTRPG... Just saying.
I have a problem with this game before reading it. I love the lore of dark souls, but I hate the fans of the "hardest" game ever; dark souls is not hard, is old. I really hope there are not trying to make the "hardest" rpg ever, because it will break me from the inmersion. The first page saying "You died" kind of tell me I'm right.
Check out the Dark Souls RPG here: steamforged.com/products/dark-souls-roleplaying-game
Session 0:
DM: OK... How did the party meet?
Player 1: I saw Player 2's Summoning Sigil and I summoned them.
Player 3: Yeah, I originally invaded Player 1, but then they beat me, so I put a Summon Sign before the boss.
DM: Yeaaaaah. OK. And how did you all respond when you got summoned?
Player 2: I just raised and lowered my shield like a thousand times and moved off left or right by an inch at a time really fast.
Player 1 & 3: I Praised The Sun.
Day made
I know this is a joke, and a funny one, but I'm legit worried this is the extent of the story/RP thought the devs gave this game based on the q&a from Steam Forged.
i feel attacked
I started rolling through barrels and ran off to kill enemies by myself.
😂😂😂
I'm certainly on the fence about picking this up. I really enjoyed the games and even played (and painted) the board game adaptation my buddy picked up. I know at least half the table would want to play this but a couple others may not. I'll be looking forward to hearing your review on this later on.
As a long time fan of Dark souls and a more recent fan of D&D 5e I am definitely looking forward to more coverage on this book.
Very interested in this and grateful for you digging into it. Like seemingly most folks, my knee-jerk reaction is that 5e is the wrong system for a Soulsborne game, but I'm genuinely curious to see what they do, particularly with the death and hollowing mechanics. Thanks again and looking forward to the next video.
I’m interested in this, but what I *REALLY* would lose my mind over is a Bloodborne 5e book. 💀🤘🏻❤️🤓
Not just you. Friend of mine is planning to run a 5E game based on it. Surprised it has not been done.
@@kevinbirge2130 there's a release called Steinhardt's Guide to the Eldritch Hunt, which is absolutely based off Bloodborne.
"Do you hear that WotC?" *slow grin ensues*
I've actually been looking forward to this game. It's got stuff I liked from previous editions and death means something without being a horrible meat grinder.
I actually love the respawn mechanic! Like I want my character to die and stuff, but I don't want lose it and have to make a new one or wait forever until the party resurrects it...
I really like the idea of position. It's a way more realistic approach to a health bar. You fight, lose stamina, get exhausted when you parry incoming attacks or get hit but your armor saves you. Until you lose your position and one brutal attack crushes you.
I know that I know literally nothing about how the rules for Dark Souls (the RPG) is going to be, but I have played a LOT of the video game, and I don't really consider a game where dying has no lasting effect "grittier" than D&D. It actually sounds like (since they expect you to die MANY times per adventure) that dying is almost a joke in its lack of consequences.
Player : what dice do we roll ?
Dm : You cant ... armours to heavy ...
Just got mine in the mail today. Can't wait to learn. I have almost all the board games but never played this style before
I did too.. but now I am reading that there were errors? Is that true? Someone asked me if I have the new one or old one? Not sure what that means?
I would love to see some of the stuff in more detail than they have talked about on their blog, like the classes and features, how position scales compared to 5e, what to expect from the monster stat blocks etc
“To ease their suffering” is a very dark souls thing to say
Very interested to hear more! Really cool of them to send you a copy so you can cover it. So does it basically use the core 5e rules and then builds on top of it?
I feel like the dark souls setting fit more well in the MORK BORG system.
Are the D&D 5e Core Books required to play? Or just the Dark Souls book?
WotC had been dying to get rid of Alignment. They just didn't want the backslash from the grognards
The fact that it's based on 5e means we can port good mechanics to 5e if there are any, which is great. Also, 5e is the first TTRPG for a lot of players so it makes sense to lower the entry bar and attract more people.
So this is the Dark Souls of TTRPG.
2 minutes in, and I'm laughing and crying, because we've seen the Bloodied mechanic before... in *4th edition*.
I'll definitely be picking this up. Im running a homebrew 5e campaign and adding Dark Souls bosses and monsters into the mix will make it so much better. Already used the boardgames miniatures for boss fights and my players were terrified. Can't wait.
Does it give rules for adapting monsters from the monster manual
I hope they can capture some of the themes of the souls games in this. It is often up to interpretation, esoteric and mysterious while also having some interesting philosophical themes. so hope that they can capture that.
I came into this mainly because I wanted a good single play world that kind on easy to grasp but not the same as D&D5E. Its got the gothic horror theme that I felt could be a good theme. I also matched in with the board game as well and so far it has worked well. My girlfriend in not a games and some of the elements actually worked better then I expected. Worth a try.
I look forward to hearing a follow up, I just got my copy and my first impression is that I am underwhelmed from how much is just copy and paste DnD 5e books or Dark Souls 3 screenshots / text. It has a lot of cool ideas just a little underwhelming.
The biggest thing I am curious about is how you guys fixed "Knight" with the Origin errors (The book is stuffed full with errors btw). Since the strongest a Knight can start the game with is 15 strength, 1 away from being able to wear his armor. I am curious if it is supposed to be 16 to get a +3 but I can't tell since it is an error in the book.
Anyway, look forward to hearing a continuation of this one!
I find it interesting that it’s using the 5th edition open game license stuff, a highly modified version, but 5th edition nonetheless instead of a new game system entirely
I'm really interested in how they're going to adapt Dark Souls-like combat imto 5e, something which I have been mulling around in my head for a while now.
I wanna know how much they do with the setting... I will end up pre-ordering this but that is the initial thing I wanna know.
I'm excited to hear more about this. I also ran a brief souls game using 5e and alot of stuff (for me at least) was tweaked and added but thankfully my players were experienced and could keep up but id worry about new people. Sounds awesome tho I'm thinking of getting it to see what they did and what they didnt do but I did.
You know, with Animal Adventures, also by Steamforged Games, you can legit have your very own Great Wolf Sif PC or even an Alvina of The Darkroot Woods Cat PC for this. Dragonborn would also let you be a Path of The Dragon/Dragon Torso Stone user.
I am not going to lie, usually RPG settings arent my thing, but I am very intrigued and excited by this Dark Souls one. Especially since it uses 5e as a basis which I think can be done well, so I would actually be extremely interested in picking this one up, or seeing a bit of content around it.
Video is loading as I type, but as a lifelong Souls fan and lore enthusiast, I'm excited to lead a session of this if it ends up feeling good to play in the review.
I pre-ordered the collector's edition of this game after watching the Q&A stream last week. This might be compatible with D&D 5e, it's as much 5e like the new Stargate SG-1 rpg is 5e.
I'm really curious how they handle bosses. I want to know if phases transition well into 5e.
Phases are just the mythic trait lol
Very curious how much new art we will get. Previews have all been previous art from guides and art books.
I am always open for an RPG that strives to present a different theme and feeling than D&D. Which for all it strengths can't do everything.
Oh boy we have all been waiting for this
So very excited to learn what this rpg has to offer!
I’m interested, but I’m not in a great rush. Excited to hear more when you’ve gone through the book
I'm interested in it. Will wait for pdf launch
I only have one question: how well could I convert this into a Berserk game?
Would love to see a live play for this
As a hermit, will it be possible to play solo at all?
Can't wait to see this!
We getting an update on this soon? Hopefully you can actually talk about the death mechanic - exp and money being the same thing etc. I’m going to be creating some things in TaleSpire for this but someone already made a dark souls inspired mega dungeon :D. Looking forward to hearing more about your thoughts!!!
Ah, another book to frankenstein mechanics from for my campaign
Wasn’t there also a Bloodborne TTRPG too?
I absolutely LOVE the games and heavily enjoyed the board game, despite playing it wrong for months. The card game was a bit meh but I'm excited to try this out. Wonder if they turned any of the builds (like Giant Dad) into NPCs
I am 100% getting it JUST for the bestiary alone but I think everythin else will be fairly awesome since I am mainly a 5e player/dm lookin for some spice to the game
The low level bosses are Tarrasque-level threats, aren't they?
My job on the "8th" day of the week: Hey I know it's your day off but.....
I had no idea this was a thing so thank you for bringing it to my attention. Definitely something I am seriously going to consider.
Turned out to be complete and utter garbage. Glad I never pre-order anything, and I feel sorry for everyone that fell for what's basically a scam.
is this From Soft or some kind of homebrew thing?
Aaaand preordered.
What do you mean death would be more gritty or impactful in a dark souls game? If anything it should be the opposite. Death for the undead is at worst a trip back to the last bonfire.
The issue is, for the Undead PCs in the Dark Souls TTRPG, is that everytime you die, you end up losing more and more of your Humanity and you'll reach a point where it'll be all gone and your PC goes Hollow. Which is Game Over.
@@clayisahottie except you're Unkindled, not Undead.
So you have a certain number of lives, & presumably pick up extra mans from nosses & other rewards. Again, dark souls is dark & gritty in a lot of ways, but death mechanics isn't one of them.
@@Malisteen I've always kind of been against the opinion that Dark Souls is Dark and Gritty. Maybe it's cause Dark Souls shaped my view of the fantasy genre. But like even in the darker moments, such as The Profaned Capital, I just can't see it as some Grimdark setting.
So… it’s a game that have absolutely nothing to do with D&D or 5e but just slaps the 5e label on the roof in hopes it helps sales with the promise of familiarity.
Does it have anything in common with D&D besides action-bonus-reaction-movement mechanics? Are 5e standard monsters compatible for use with this game?
So excited for this!!!!!
Steamforged Games: Morality is difficult and complicated.
Wizards of the Coast: There is no such thing as morality.
Looks awesome so far
Would like to see a possible DM screen being made for this.
Is it true that no adventures will be published for Dark Souls rpg? 😔
Nice! and Nice! for more DS content.
Thanks.
Is there mistype in the name of the video? Dark_s_ Souls
Are you going to review the Power Rangers RPG?
Renegade was supposed to send me stuff but they never did
Have you actually played it? I only hear bad things now that it's been released.
Cool beans!
You tpk your party.
Out comes to dark souls book.
Sure no pdf...lol...anyone want it?
NO
Yes
Completely not play tested material. Full of typos and mistakes.
I wonder how often You Died appears...
I wish they had gone with DS 1/2 'undead' instead of DS3 'unkindled'. The DS3 framework is very prescriptive & limiting. Also very backwards looking. DS1 and DS2 both tell thrir own stories, and in doing so provide a framework that you could use to tell your own story. DS3, while a good game, isn't so much its own thing. It's instead about it's own franchisd, DS1 in particular. The result is a much narrower scope, bordering on navel gazing, and that's built into the kind of creature the protagonist is.
DS 1 & 2's undead could be anyone, and could do anything. DS 3's unkindled all have to have been former failed attempts to link the fire, brought back to try again. That's some pretty tight shackles on your backstory & motivation, at least to start.
Still sad they called the mechanic Position and not _Poise_
I have a little interest out of curiosity, but not too much.
I disagree and like alignment personally but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I can understand and agree with looser alignment and people choosing no alignment for PCs in their campaigns. I think adding typically and encouraging two play-styles one with and one without as a session zero decision is the solution that benefits everyone's playstyles most. Alignment is still very useful for DMs to easily understand how to run NPCs and other creatures, and for players whom it is helpful for.
How is this gritter?
Did I miss something?
Death is a mild inconvenience and you automatically re-spawn... like instantly....
That's FAR less gritty than regular D&D!
Even At high levels it takes prep, spell slots, diamonds! And is pretty much impossible before level 5!
If you want gritty play regular D&D LV 1-3 and a bit of LV 4!
Bloodied mechanic is one of the decent things from 4e!
Why is this 5e D&D based at all? If it does away with so many core 5e D&D things? Races, Alignment, regular stats and HP as separate things, etc.
This seems like it should NOT be 5e based but an entirely separate TTRPG....
Is it a forced 5e compatible for predicted sales? To make it seem easier to pick up for people already playing and used to 5e rather than learning an entirely new system?
Wait wasn't there a Japanese licensed Dark Souls TTRPG?! What aren't they licensing and translating that?!
Seems cash grabby and I don't know enough about how it actually runs and how compatible it is with the rest of 5e.
Seems like it might be 'too modded' form standard 5e to really even be 5e anymore. Honestly at that point make your own separate TTRPG...
Just saying.
Is this legal?
Really disappointed this is just another 5e with a bunch of changes, and not new ttrpg.
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I have a problem with this game before reading it. I love the lore of dark souls, but I hate the fans of the "hardest" game ever; dark souls is not hard, is old. I really hope there are not trying to make the "hardest" rpg ever, because it will break me from the inmersion. The first page saying "You died" kind of tell me I'm right.
too bad it's been released as a beta work in progress.