I enjoyed this adventure this morning! The whole complex is such a beautiful mystery. The area that is walled up among giant boulders is incredible. It’s mind blowing to think of the labor involved, and the ordeal of hauling so many stones up to the top as well. I appreciate you stopping to explain the various plant growth in the high desert! Usually I just hear complaints about thorny bushes and cacti! Keep up the good work!
Glad you enjoyed it! This site is special! The plants and animals of the high desert are resilient and hardy, if you are going to walk among them you need to be the same! Thank you for coming along with me on my adventures!
Great video, outstanding narration and background music. Another amazing hilltop fortification with dwellings. As to what happened to the ancient Puebloans, the "peaceful ones" such as the Mesa Verde clans were raided, enslaved, and butchered for meat. Those who escaped were the ones who constructed the small, inaccessible, dwelling forts high up on sheer cliffs, such as those found by Desert Drifter this week. Thank you for all your hard work and efforts!
Thanks for the feedback and the information. I have some cliff dwellings that I will be visiting very soon, but I really like the hilltop type ruins. They are visited far less and that's the way I like it! Solitude. Thank you for joining me again on an adventure!
Another great adventure! I think your descriptions of the flora add context to the ruin site. Looking at the drone footage, I see that some of those walls are standing straight and tall, while sections right next to them have fallen. Different stonemasons? Some better than others? I did some research on this type of rubble-filled wall and found that in Europe, they were/are built to block the wind so their sheep can huddle there and keep warm. Makes sense for a hilltop fort or dwelling. Also, the inner and outer walls may be tied together at some levels to keep them durable. Thanks for this great video!
@@heathputnam9524 Sure, use that research - any factual info should be passed on. There tend to be crackpot theories put forth in the comments to these and similar videos. Since getting hooked on these southwest videos about six months ago, I've been trying to research these stone structures on hilltops. I haven't found a lot! I think the archeologists are more into the "sexy" cliff dwellings. I'd be happy to share what I have found with you, since you seem really interested in learning about these sites.
This area has so many native sites! There is another petroglyph rock up the trail from the big boulder cave. From this ruin hilltop area you can see many other native hilltop dwellings.
Another food item at that site is the Opuntia cactus (Nopal/Nopales in Spanish) that seem to be somewhat concentrated at the top of that hill. They are a common vegetable in a great many meals/dishes in Mexico.
Wow. I can only imagine the huge labor force it took to make this hilltop fort. I'm thinking multi family dwelling, community center, probably multi purpose over the centuries? I wonder how many people it accommodated in its hey day. Great trip, thanks!
The first ruin I found on the lower hill had at least 5 dwellings and the main ruin could have held many. The amount of work in this hilltop ruin and the labyrinth in the boulders was amazing! I guess without electronics you have the spare time! Haha! Thanks for joining in the adventures!
I picked pine nuts from Pinyon Pine (Pinus edulis) which is most likely what you have there. I buy pine nuts from European Stone Pine (Pinus pinea). Very interesting video, as always.
I haven't seen any kilns that I know of. I am pretty new to this type of adventuring in the southwest. Most of the pottery sherds I have found are from local materials. Thanks for joining the adventure!
I have been told cannibalism of a people from the north east direction may have been the threat! I have not read anything like that but that would be something to be very afraid of! Thanks for watching!
Nice videography, I find It rather odd the over use of the term "Defensive Walls" used by todays contemporary ruin enthusiasts trending on TH-cam, Defensive seems to be such common vernacular to describe what you think your seeing on hilltops & tall walls must be strategically built as forts, I think it must be a genetically engrained euro-centric mindset, a throwback from the common bronze age hilllforts found all over Europe & the middle east, much like having a Masada complex .I am not implying that the local people had a conflict free existence which during times of drought & resource shortages the competition for life giving substances, locations & outside tribal dominance led to violence, But keep in mind many of these village and multi-extended family sites were often in use for hundreds of years far longer than many modern day countries have existed.. Set up camp on a hilltop & stay for an extended period of time and you'll find that having suitable shelter, such as thick tall walls for protection, a windbreak from the predictable harsh prevailing winds that hit seasonally, that's is a major factor aside from a water source & food supply for the ability to stay in one place for generations, descendents of those people who built these places are still with us today.
Maybe the term “protective walls” rather than “defensive walls” would be more appropriate. They could have been constructed for protection against the elements (wind and rain, etc.), predatory animals (bears, lions etc.) and hostile people groups. Oh wait, that takes us back to “defensive” again.
Oh where to begin on this one. 😊 First of all check out Expedition Bible: Jesus The Soul Shepherd, because it highlights the life of Bedouin shepherds in the Holy Land, and the similar looking Sheep pens they build to protect the flocks at night look very similar to some of the sites being documented. There seems to be a rather constant effigy theme at many sites being documented of Sun Moon and Earth representations. The tribe of Issachar was sea fairing, had connections to Asia and they were represented by the Sun, Moon and Stars, because they were the ancient astronomers and time keepers of the Israelites who established their calendar based upon the heavens. Within that video it shows the entrance at 13:05 to one of the pens and note the head effigy created by the mosiac type arrangement of the rocks. I can point such out in this video as well. Deep breath moment: at 2:39 looking over the art panel to the left is a turtle 🐢 head effigy represented. Note the clear eye and mouth. Turtles watch over treasure in some Native American traditions which is interesting there is a story board there. Maybe it’s an ancient story map? Also the Shawnee are said to have come to America on the back of a turtle and at one time there were turtle ships. What an amazing site! I will come back later and give you time stamps for the areas I’m seeing effigies, but wanted to share something right away for you. God’s Blessings 🙏🏼🕊️🐑
Knights Templar used a lot of those symbols within the rock art in art that’s been documented associated with them. You mention the pine cone has a letter w shape within it? Did not know that, wow! W looks like the Hebrew letter Shin and represents El Shaddai / Shadai a name of the God of Israel. Maybe that’s why it’s used to represent enlightenment. Also George Washington used a Pine Tree 🌲on the Appeal To Heaven flag flown by the continental army under his command. All of this connects to the letter Shin created by Hog Canyon. It’s why the Turkey was first suggested as the national bird as well, because its tracks look like Shin. Shin also is on the Mezuzah that symbolizes the protection of God.
Trek Planner just documented another site that looks like a sheep pen. I wrote out a long comment but it was too long and did not post. I had screen shot it so I can retype it as a comment and then comment reply’s on it so it will post like I’m doing here. Think I will do that first since the sites may have been built by the same people then come back here. I believe the archeologist Brother Joel P. Kramer who also wrote Where God Came Down would find the four of your channels documenting these sites very interesting. He once lived in Utah but lives in Jordan now. Not long ago Trek Planer documented what looks like a massive mikvah carved into the rock under a massive bird Phoenix effigies wing. Psalm 91:4. I recognized it because in Joel’s book there is one in the House of the Virgin in Nazareth dating back to the time of Mary. My belief at this point is the tribe of Issachar was here in America prior to you know who. Not by accident we have the four corners that is a Templar Cross nor a Phoenix Arizona, nor a Mount Zion and a Zion National Park. We are on turtle island as well. Land of Issachar looked like an elephant and there’s Elephantine Island and Egypt that connects. It’s like a giant puzzle connecting together piece by piece. The Templar Cross is also laid out in a mosaic in the floor of in the same synagogue, they are carved into pillars that are the remnants of a Templar building on Elephantine Island. There’s also a letter Shin inscribed on the plaster and Hog Canyon is a Shin, as is Jerusalem from above, and the human heart. Jeremiah 31:33.
If you can get a copy of Where God Came down it would be beneficial when you are documenting these sites. For example on pg 60 there is an ancient city wall of Hebron that is similar construction to sites being documented and on pg 94 there is a sheep cave with an old house on top; it’s the same type construction as this site. Wondering if they laid out the shapes of sacred sites when they constructed sites in America to connect back to the Holy Lands? There are a few ancient models in the book. They definitely at times created arial effigy depictions, but maybe The Covenant City / City of David is depicted as it too was a walled compound. Oh my the one the Trek Planner documented looks like an illustration on pg 68 the square represented the Davids palace. Very cool. Ya wondering how to contact Brother Kramer. He really should study all these videos. He could see things that may connect more quickly than I.
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I enjoyed this adventure this morning! The whole complex is such a beautiful mystery. The area that is walled up among giant boulders is incredible. It’s mind blowing to think of the labor involved, and the ordeal of hauling so many stones up to the top as well. I appreciate you stopping to explain the various plant growth in the high desert! Usually I just hear complaints about thorny bushes and cacti! Keep up the good work!
Glad you enjoyed it! This site is special! The plants and animals of the high desert are resilient and hardy, if you are going to walk among them you need to be the same! Thank you for coming along with me on my adventures!
Great video, outstanding narration and background music. Another amazing hilltop fortification with dwellings. As to what happened to the ancient Puebloans, the "peaceful ones" such as the Mesa Verde clans were raided, enslaved, and butchered for meat. Those who escaped were the ones who constructed the small, inaccessible, dwelling forts high up on sheer cliffs, such as those found by Desert Drifter this week. Thank you for all your hard work and efforts!
Thanks for the feedback and the information. I have some cliff dwellings that I will be visiting very soon, but I really like the hilltop type ruins. They are visited far less and that's the way I like it! Solitude. Thank you for joining me again on an adventure!
I like that you put the piece of pottery back with the red side up, the way you found it. 😁
We should respect the sites! Thanks for joining the adventure!
Thank you for taking us along on another walk into Beauty.
Well thank you for coming along with me!
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Another great adventure! I think your descriptions of the flora add context to the ruin site. Looking at the drone footage, I see that some of those walls are standing straight and tall, while sections right next to them have fallen. Different stonemasons? Some better than others? I did some research on this type of rubble-filled wall and found that in Europe, they were/are built to block the wind so their sheep can huddle there and keep warm. Makes sense for a hilltop fort or dwelling. Also, the inner and outer walls may be tied together at some levels to keep them durable. Thanks for this great video!
Thank you for coming along on the adventure! Also thanks for the info on the walls, do you mind if I use that info in a video?
@@heathputnam9524 Sure, use that research - any factual info should be passed on. There tend to be crackpot theories put forth in the comments to these and similar videos. Since getting hooked on these southwest videos about six months ago, I've been trying to research these stone structures on hilltops. I haven't found a lot! I think the archeologists are more into the "sexy" cliff dwellings. I'd be happy to share what I have found with you, since you seem really interested in learning about these sites.
Excellent! ❤️👌
Thanks for joining the adventure!
Make sure you visit my new channel @-JoinMyAdventures ! It is just focused on Ancient American ruins!
Another great video and explore!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for coming along!
WOW That is an Impressive site! Thanks for taking us along.
Thanks for joining the adventure!
I really enjoy and appreciate your videos. Thank you.
Thank you for joining the adventure and you are always welcome!
2:20 In 3015 someone will be exploring this and be like: "Oooh! Someone scratched their name in this rock 1000 years ago! How cool!"
They’ll be like… “What do you suppose KARRY means?”
@@heathputnam9524 they probably won't even be able to read in 1000 years ..
This area has so many native sites! There is another petroglyph rock up the trail from the big boulder cave. From this ruin hilltop area you can see many other native hilltop dwellings.
Thanks for the info! And thanks for joining my adventure!
Another food item at that site is the Opuntia cactus (Nopal/Nopales in Spanish) that seem to be somewhat concentrated at the top of that hill. They are a common vegetable in a great many meals/dishes in Mexico.
There are a few plants that seem to be more frequent near or in ancient ruins! Prickly pear is one of them! Thanks for joining the adventure!
Wow. I can only imagine the huge labor force it took to make this hilltop fort. I'm thinking multi family dwelling, community center, probably multi purpose over the centuries? I wonder how many people it accommodated in its hey day. Great trip, thanks!
The first ruin I found on the lower hill had at least 5 dwellings and the main ruin could have held many. The amount of work in this hilltop ruin and the labyrinth in the boulders was amazing! I guess without electronics you have the spare time! Haha! Thanks for joining in the adventures!
can you do a video on some places with some evidence of ancient high technology please?
I picked pine nuts from Pinyon Pine (Pinus edulis) which is most likely what you have there. I buy pine nuts from European Stone Pine (Pinus pinea). Very interesting video, as always.
Yes! You got it! Thanks for joining me!
@@heathputnam9524 Can you tell my how to send a PM?
have you seen kilns for the pottery? Is the pottery made from local materials or were they traded from elsewhere?
I haven't seen any kilns that I know of. I am pretty new to this type of adventuring in the southwest. Most of the pottery sherds I have found are from local materials. Thanks for joining the adventure!
Nice work! I say “ditch the music”.
Some like it some don't! Thanks for joining my adventure!
never heard of agave like that dying, ours has lived 50-60 years at least and has had multiple blooms.
The ancestral pueblo people didnt disappear. There are several indigenous peoples who trace their ancestory back to them.
They disappeared from these ruins. :) Thanks for watching!
Very afraid I would say ..all these areas built high up ..whatever was a threat must have been an extreme threat ..
From Australia 🦘🦘🦘
I have been told cannibalism of a people from the north east direction may have been the threat! I have not read anything like that but that would be something to be very afraid of! Thanks for watching!
@@heathputnam9524 yes ..whatever sent them to these areas must have been life or death threats ..and super human efforts .
Where is this located?
Central Arizona. Thanks for watching!
Nice videography, I find It rather odd the over use of the term "Defensive Walls" used by todays contemporary ruin enthusiasts trending on TH-cam, Defensive seems to be such common vernacular to describe what you think your seeing on hilltops & tall walls must be strategically built as forts, I think it must be a genetically engrained euro-centric mindset, a throwback from the common bronze age hilllforts found all over Europe & the middle east, much like having a Masada complex .I am not implying that the local people had a conflict free existence which during times of drought & resource shortages the competition for life giving substances, locations & outside tribal dominance led to violence, But keep in mind many of these village and multi-extended family sites were often in use for hundreds of years far longer than many modern day countries have existed.. Set up camp on a hilltop & stay for an extended period of time and you'll find that having suitable shelter, such as thick tall walls for protection, a windbreak from the predictable harsh prevailing winds that hit seasonally, that's is a major factor aside from a water source & food supply for the ability to stay in one place for generations, descendents of those people who built these places are still with us today.
Maybe the term “protective walls” rather than “defensive walls” would be more appropriate. They could have been constructed for protection against the elements (wind and rain, etc.), predatory animals (bears, lions etc.) and hostile people groups. Oh wait, that takes us back to “defensive” again.
Why do you keep blurring out spots?
It was actually a hiker. I did not get permission to have them in the video.
need to get the smudges off the lens
Oh where to begin on this one. 😊 First of all check out Expedition Bible: Jesus The Soul Shepherd, because it highlights the life of Bedouin shepherds in the Holy Land, and the similar looking Sheep pens they build to protect the flocks at night look very similar to some of the sites being documented. There seems to be a rather constant effigy theme at many sites being documented of Sun Moon and Earth representations. The tribe of Issachar was sea fairing, had connections to Asia and they were represented by the Sun, Moon and Stars, because they were the ancient astronomers and time keepers of the Israelites who established their calendar based upon the heavens. Within that video it shows the entrance at 13:05 to one of the pens and note the head effigy created by the mosiac type arrangement of the rocks. I can point such out in this video as well. Deep breath moment: at 2:39 looking over the art panel to the left is a turtle 🐢 head effigy represented. Note the clear eye and mouth. Turtles watch over treasure in some Native American traditions which is interesting there is a story board there. Maybe it’s an ancient story map? Also the Shawnee are said to have come to America on the back of a turtle and at one time there were turtle ships. What an amazing site! I will come back later and give you time stamps for the areas I’m seeing effigies, but wanted to share something right away for you. God’s Blessings 🙏🏼🕊️🐑
You have so much knowledge! Thanks for sharing and also for joining me on the adventure!
Knights Templar used a lot of those symbols within the rock art in art that’s been documented associated with them. You mention the pine cone has a letter w shape within it? Did not know that, wow! W looks like the Hebrew letter Shin and represents El Shaddai / Shadai a name of the God of Israel. Maybe that’s why it’s used to represent enlightenment. Also George Washington used a Pine Tree 🌲on the Appeal To Heaven flag flown by the continental army under his command. All of this connects to the letter Shin created by Hog Canyon. It’s why the Turkey was first suggested as the national bird as well, because its tracks look like Shin. Shin also is on the Mezuzah that symbolizes the protection of God.
Trek Planner just documented another site that looks like a sheep pen. I wrote out a long comment but it was too long and did not post. I had screen shot it so I can retype it as a comment and then comment reply’s on it so it will post like I’m doing here. Think I will do that first since the sites may have been built by the same people then come back here. I believe the archeologist Brother Joel P. Kramer who also wrote Where God Came Down would find the four of your channels documenting these sites very interesting. He once lived in Utah but lives in Jordan now. Not long ago Trek Planer documented what looks like a massive mikvah carved into the rock under a massive bird Phoenix effigies wing. Psalm 91:4. I recognized it because in Joel’s book there is one in the House of the Virgin in Nazareth dating back to the time of Mary. My belief at this point is the tribe of Issachar was here in America prior to you know who. Not by accident we have the four corners that is a Templar Cross nor a Phoenix Arizona, nor a Mount Zion and a Zion National Park. We are on turtle island as well. Land of Issachar looked like an elephant and there’s Elephantine Island and Egypt that connects. It’s like a giant puzzle connecting together piece by piece. The Templar Cross is also laid out in a mosaic in the floor of in the same synagogue, they are carved into pillars that are the remnants of a Templar building on Elephantine Island. There’s also a letter Shin inscribed on the plaster and Hog Canyon is a Shin, as is Jerusalem from above, and the human heart. Jeremiah 31:33.
If you can get a copy of Where God Came down it would be beneficial when you are documenting these sites. For example on pg 60 there is an ancient city wall of Hebron that is similar construction to sites being documented and on pg 94 there is a sheep cave with an old house on top; it’s the same type construction as this site. Wondering if they laid out the shapes of sacred sites when they constructed sites in America to connect back to the Holy Lands? There are a few ancient models in the book. They definitely at times created arial effigy depictions, but maybe The Covenant City / City of David is depicted as it too was a walled compound. Oh my the one the Trek Planner documented looks like an illustration on pg 68 the square represented the Davids palace. Very cool. Ya wondering how to contact Brother Kramer. He really should study all these videos. He could see things that may connect more quickly than I.
Known fact: Navajo nomad lore says they had sheep before the sixteenth century.