When James Toney Displayed Zero Respect Against Holyfield

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  • Welcome back to Boxing After Dark. In today's video we look back at the hyped showdown between Evander Holyfield and a James Toney that's having his first bout at heavyweight
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  • @rukedoufus3260
    @rukedoufus3260 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    James Toney is the definition of too tough for your own good

    • @BarryShite25
      @BarryShite25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yup. Hence how he now speaks. A shame really

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      James Tony knocked out Holyfield with an uppercut to his shoulder blade.

    • @in_vas_por8810
      @in_vas_por8810 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@ItIsYouAreNotYour Thats funny, but that 3 piece right before that is what did it.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It was the sparring that damaged Toney. He would go to war in training every day, it’s a miracle he can still talk at all

    • @sherrillraymond7595
      @sherrillraymond7595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@HkFinn83he got hit in the back of his head alot

  • @christopherjudd8996
    @christopherjudd8996 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    Possibly the greatest era of heavyweight boxing ever, I miss boxing in the 90s with those greats.

    • @grahamjames5934
      @grahamjames5934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Greatest at headbutting and putting ointment on his gloves to burn his opponents eyes ! FACTS !!

    • @21GunStudio
      @21GunStudio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      2nd greatest era, unquestionably. 70s were better. I remember the 80s HW era was super maligned, but it was actually quite good - just had the misfortune of being referenced against the two decades that sandwiched it

    • @franklinbrandon5283
      @franklinbrandon5283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Every sport was good in the 90s

    • @j.l.3685
      @j.l.3685 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get rid of steroid testing and it would be that good again

    • @chuckurso593
      @chuckurso593 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      2nd greatest era and maybe 3rd. for the 70's had the greatest heavyweights and the 80's had Larry Holmes who I would put ahead of all the heavyweights in the 90's. An old Larry gave Holyfield a run for his money. A young Larry would have made him look silly!

  • @grumpy-dad3701
    @grumpy-dad3701 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    That was a proper brawl. Don't see many fights like this

  • @yeagemk
    @yeagemk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    I used to think boxing was boring. Then in the beginning of this year I put on boxing gloves for the first time and began training multiple days per week. It has given me a new appreciation for the elite level of these monsters. The power, accuracy, speed and snap of those strikes. That footwork and head movement. You don't realize how much goes into it until you start training it yourself. Now I cant stop watching these guys.

    • @gutter339
      @gutter339 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Good for you bro. I started real young myself and if my body wasn't so fked up in my 30s, I would still be at the gym. One of my biggest regrets was that I didn't take boxing seriously enough in my teens lol. Idc what anyone says, boxing is the best form of exercise and def the most useful

    • @mynamemeanspeace
      @mynamemeanspeace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      and @theadmiral111 agree and agree. the best fitness moments I had were with 2.5 lb weights shadow boxing and wondering how much I sucked lol

    • @Drpepperspray1010
      @Drpepperspray1010 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Any man can throw a punch, but being able to move and punch is what boxing’s all about. I remember my first sparring session I got my ass kicked twice cuz I had terrible footwork. It’s always the footwork of these pros that impress me the most

    • @T1Oracle
      @T1Oracle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't get CTE. You only have one brain and it doesn't get younger.

    • @christianf7740
      @christianf7740 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And the fact that it is a huge sport with boxing clubs in every shit hole across the world. The competition is gigantic and only the most talented small fraction gets to be a Toney or Holyfield. These guys are not for real when it comes to skill and athletic abillity.

  • @99Matzu
    @99Matzu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    James Toney is a great often underrated fighter with a very interesting style

    • @sof5858
      @sof5858 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I lost my love for boxing a bit in the early 00's. Its was Toneys performances against Jirov and Holyfield and got me back into boxing again.
      1 in every 100 years type of talent. With better handling, maybe could have achieved more Championship success.
      Always had a performance in him.

    • @99Matzu
      @99Matzu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sof5858 That Jirov fight was a work of art

    • @21GunStudio
      @21GunStudio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Here’s an interesting perspective… we have no idea how good Toney’s chin was or wasn’t, because he was virtually impossible to hit cleanly

  • @T0X1CSPIKES
    @T0X1CSPIKES 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +467

    Man, I miss Holyfield. I love how much of a class act the dude was. When he lost, he didnt make excuses and he gave credit to his opponents where it was due. He's just one of those guys you could never bring yourself to root against, even if he was up against your favorite boxer.

    • @throwdownthenhoedown9074
      @throwdownthenhoedown9074 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      huh. i've always thought of him as dirty with all the headbutts and punches after the bell.

    • @leocormeum3595
      @leocormeum3595 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That was Tyson after the bella d elbows holyfield used his head

    • @rahrahrasputin89
      @rahrahrasputin89 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@throwdownthenhoedown9074 and the juicing

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      FACTS! 👍

    • @yearight5303
      @yearight5303 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      He couldn't get his headbutt going in this one.

  • @Just_a_Reflection
    @Just_a_Reflection 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Lights Out Toney successfully used the Philly Shell against both Jirov and Michael Nunn when they were undefeated champions. I can't recall any other orthodox fighter doing it once against a world-class Southpaw in a title fight. His aggressive Shell, defensive instincts, reflxes, and power made him one of a kind. He was a special talent.

    • @barneysbar4032
      @barneysbar4032 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrong , toney weighed 157 while nunn was 160.

    • @Just_a_Reflection
      @Just_a_Reflection 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @barneysbar4032 What are you trying to say? They fought May 10, 1991. And 157 lbs isn't a division. Go play somewhere that you might be taken seriously.

    • @rph8704
      @rph8704 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Idk why James toney is so punch drunk given how stellar his defense was

    • @shaunp253
      @shaunp253 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@rph8704Because instead of road work, he would allegedly just do hella sparring. All those sparring battles take their toll.

  • @michaels9917
    @michaels9917 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +257

    Will always give James Tony a monsoon of respect. Amazing boxer, and even stepped into the octagon with Randy Coture. Dude is a gladiator.

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      He's nuts! XD XD, but definitely a scary and absolutely elite boxer.
      Apparently he didn't really like training or practicing, and didn't even like controlled sparring, so he would just spar like it was a real boxing match, and just get all these different boxers lined up to fight him for a round or two until they inevitably would quit or get knocked out, and the next one would go in.
      The guy was an animal! O_O

    • @horst-detlefkrawutschke8469
      @horst-detlefkrawutschke8469 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@syncmonism Outstanding performance. This dude is dangerous.

    • @bluntsessions3577
      @bluntsessions3577 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂He a goat but he’s punch drunk 😂

    • @normalnick9693
      @normalnick9693 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      my fav. never got ko'd. sucks he popped for roids, that does hurt his chance of claiming to be one of the absolute best

    • @nastchristo7729
      @nastchristo7729 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ⁠@@normalnick9693I don’t think it does. Steroids is cheating by definition of the rule, however steroids doesn’t make you a better boxer in any way. You could take a shit load of steroids right now for 5 years and you still won’t be able to do the things Tony did in a ring. Fighters go through so many health issues outside of the ring that sometimes steroids are used just to help them recover from injuries they sustained in training. I personally think it shouldn’t be frowned upon and actually encouraged. At the end of the day they are putting their lives on the line strictly for our ENTERTAINMENT.

  • @ericcartman5867
    @ericcartman5867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    James body shot is that good in the 6th round, it makes evanders leg lift up and you can see the shock in evanders face. One of the best body shots you will see

    • @bluntsessions3577
      @bluntsessions3577 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂He tried to block it with his leg after it already hit him

    • @f16Azis
      @f16Azis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      07:05 здесь

  • @brasstacksboxing409
    @brasstacksboxing409 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Toney was a dang defensive and counter punching guru. Head movement, and his eyes were second to none. The vision he had enabled his reflexes and timing. Absolute beast!

    • @dominiquec8244
      @dominiquec8244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His defense sucked man its a juggernaut mentality he gets tagged to much because of that shit he does thankfully he had a good chin. His counter was on point i must give him that but he allows himself to get hit to much and it shows on him now

    • @shaunp253
      @shaunp253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dominiquec8244 James Toney defense sucked? Never seen such blasphemy. 😂 He's fighting in the pocket, of course he's going to get tagged. Look at all the punches he's slipping and countering at that range.

    • @dominiquec8244
      @dominiquec8244 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shaunp253 and look at how much times he gets tagged. Dude just had a good chin

    • @shaunp253
      @shaunp253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dominiquec8244 You need to run it back on slow mo or something, cause he's slipping and countering the majority of Evander's shots.

    • @brasstacksboxing409
      @brasstacksboxing409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dominiquec8244 you know shit. This ain't touch football, this boxing, ya ninny. You never even laced up a pair 🥊

  • @stlswagger
    @stlswagger 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    If you're of the age that saw these fights live like I did, Toney was a fighters fighter in a time where Tyson was the bar. The sheer skill he had in big weight classes, Jesus. That man was a fight god

    • @robbsheff5982
      @robbsheff5982 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No lies detected here .. Toney could flat out fight/box

  • @dereksteele5543
    @dereksteele5543 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Hollyfield was waaaaay past his prime in this fight.

    • @matthewanthony4606
      @matthewanthony4606 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      So was toney

    • @i-55southstl55
      @i-55southstl55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly ​@@matthewanthony4606

    • @DJK-cq2uy
      @DJK-cq2uy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stop with the excuses ..u goofball...James was damn near as old..just as much hard miles on him...pfffft hmmmmph Headbutt boy!!!

    • @conquerorofindia
      @conquerorofindia 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@matthewanthony460635😂 vs 41😎

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +351

    Toney was an absolute artist in the ring.

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Terrence 🥊 Crawford:"Hold my 🍺" ; Error Spence:"I'll 🍷 drink to that..."

    • @boxinghistorian2629
      @boxinghistorian2629 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@erinmeggik391no comparison

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@boxinghistorian2629 L😆L at Error Spence:"Gonna break him down" and "Bud too light in the Azz" Yet it was Error Spence who got his Azz handed to him plus ends up resembling a defeated 👊 Street 🎮 Fighter video game fighter.

    • @i-churchcafe9136
      @i-churchcafe9136 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Roy Jones Jr. "hold my paint brushes"

    • @erinmeggik391
      @erinmeggik391 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@boxinghistorian2629 Error.Spence:"We gone smoke some Bud..." ; "Gonna break him down." results?? . Bud 🥊 beats Spence like he stole the Lord's 🍽️ Supper and Error ends up 🩸 bleeding from eyes resembling a defeated Vega from Street 🎮 Fighter game L😜L

  • @LeftenantMalachi
    @LeftenantMalachi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Tony's combos were LEGENDARY! Love his movement too, despite him gaining weight later on in his career

  • @mediocreman6323
    @mediocreman6323 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    “Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young.” Holyfield, what a legend! With the best mother ever.

    • @humanbean1424
      @humanbean1424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ok, boomer. - Vitor Belfort

    • @unggading6990
      @unggading6990 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Holyfield only wins via headbutt. Nobody respects this dude

  • @rickydamiron8762
    @rickydamiron8762 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Counterpunching was next level. Wasn’t afraid to get into the pocket, James Toney.

  • @bluntsessions3577
    @bluntsessions3577 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

    Toney is the perfect example of why boxers like Crawford are so good. Anytime you move up in weight class and keep your speed it translates much better than power. This is why toney looked outta shape but was probably the fastest heavyweight since Ali.

    • @mawande23
      @mawande23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      True but I hate how it only goes one way in todays era cause once someone like Toney would lose in the HW division they’d say whoever beat him was the bigger man it was expected .. Eg : Mikey Garcia was at 135, won a belt at 140 and was a P4P star but when he lost to EJ all of a sudden EJ fought and bullied a small man .. fighting your Crawfords Toneys & Mikeys are tricky . You get criticised for losing and criticised for winning against them when they are actually elite fighters

    • @William-Morey-Baker
      @William-Morey-Baker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Speed equals power... look it up. mass plus speed equals force. newtons 3rd law

    • @frankjoseph6071
      @frankjoseph6071 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      malignaggi was fast but had no power@@William-Morey-Baker

    • @Sean-li4jm
      @Sean-li4jm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was the Fedor game plan in MMA and it worked perfectly for 10 years.

    • @jpw5029
      @jpw5029 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bro ur out of whack, Toney is not super fast, even at hw, Roy, Tyson probs faster than Ali

  • @jessfrankel5212
    @jessfrankel5212 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +265

    Holyfield was always a class act. Win or lose, he never made excuses, always lauded the other boxer's skills, and didn't whine or complain. Total legend.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And a drugs cheat.

    • @jessfrankel5212
      @jessfrankel5212 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@cockoffgewgle4993 Fair enough. HOlyfield said he didn't take 'roids; I think he did, but so did a lot of other champs. They didn't get caught, though; Toney did.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jessfrankel5212 It's pretty obvious he did. There's firm evidence and you only need to look at his ridiculous physique and physical transformation.
      But it was assuredly widespread in boxing. It's ironic that a guy who took the title off Holyfield got done for doping.

    • @geyzeethesharkssniper5283
      @geyzeethesharkssniper5283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Total legend..
      You're right

    • @magggotface
      @magggotface 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pumped up on steroids his entire career...ya what a legend

  • @toneykaasman2359
    @toneykaasman2359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you boxing after dark for the great legendary fights and assessments. Keep them coming

  • @mikewiz1054
    @mikewiz1054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    I remember this fight. Absolute worth mentioning that Holyfield was 40 and Toney was 35. Both were considered ancient in boxing years. Great performance by both fighters and their conditioning was immaculate for their age. Holyfield was just too far past his prime to hurt a tank like Toney.

    • @Tonyplat98
      @Tonyplat98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed you can see that he just wasn't as fast as he used to be in his prime. Still one of the greatest fights I've seen between 2 very similar styles and very similarly matched heavyweights. They were both great and it was a legendary fight to witness.

    • @joeblough261
      @joeblough261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was a t this fight in person and was so depressed after. Holyfield is my all-time favorite fighter and Toney is in my top 5. Probably was my 2nd favorite fighter at that moment. We can't take away anything from Toney, he was brilliant that night, but he was in great shape (and most likely juicing) and coming off one of his best wins vs. Jirov, whereas Holyfield was so far past it (and possibly on HGH himself here). But he was still good enough to look great in the 1st round, and he landed some big shots on James, but Toney, (along with Holy) had one of the all-time best chins.

    • @Tonyplat98
      @Tonyplat98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joeblough261 Yeah agreed but the truth is we will never know for sure if he was juicing or not. In either case he outboxed Hollifield that night. As a person Hollifield is still the better man.

    • @ppo6029
      @ppo6029 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      James toney fought the Philly shell those fighters style keeps them good longer. Bernard Hopkins is Philly shell for example.

    • @track-lash3337
      @track-lash3337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      James Toney was busted for steroid use multiple times at heavyweight. At least All his wins @ that weight should have been ruled no contest or have an asterisk next to them

  • @daddydaycareah3994
    @daddydaycareah3994 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I’ve witnessed Toney training/sparring in person and it’s a sight. Scary dude

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    @BIGMAN-qe4dm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

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    @kizzy6304 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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    @21PI12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @AhmadHamzabalad
    @AhmadHamzabalad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'll never forget this fight. At the post fight interview Toney said " I put another southern brother in the ground" 😂😂😂

  • @afb7553
    @afb7553 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Toney was so silky smooth on O&D... He was a joy to watch, a real technician in the ring

  • @OFFICIALPARTICLESGH
    @OFFICIALPARTICLESGH 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    The thing about Toney’s defense was that he was always there in front of you. You could hit him. You just can’t hit him well.

    • @charleybrown8650
      @charleybrown8650 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wtf you made no sense. The whole reason tony washed holyfield. Was cause holyfield had problems hitting him.

    • @WarEnjoyer-gm5yh
      @WarEnjoyer-gm5yh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@charleybrown8650 I think you misunderstood. Toney stands right in front of you, yet you cant really hit him. You might graze him with something, and maybe even land something, but its usually never a good clean shot. He doesnt have fast feet or mobility like some boxers, but his head movement and shoulder defence made up for it.

    • @charleybrown8650
      @charleybrown8650 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WarEnjoyer-gm5yh I think holyfield landed good shots and missed a lot of shots . Tony was getting tagged for the first few rounds and than beast mode kicked in

    • @manuelsoto9134
      @manuelsoto9134 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@charleybrown8650He’s a guy who makes you feel like you’re fighting in a phone booth (if you’re old enough). He knows the angles, smoothers you, moves just enough.

    • @WarEnjoyer-gm5yh
      @WarEnjoyer-gm5yh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@charleybrown8650 Yep, holyfield started slowing down because he was past it and because toney even when he was fat had great cardio and hit really hard. Also because nothing could actually hurt toney, there was no way for evander to win by stoppage because in toneys own words "im undestructable"

  • @umungus518
    @umungus518 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @olliefoxx7165
    @olliefoxx7165 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was very fortunate to grow up watching the greats of boxing. Holyfield and Toney are legends of the sport and made boxing exciting a fun. Many thanks to the legends for great memories.

  • @JuggoJuggo
    @JuggoJuggo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    "I'm undestructable!"
    -James Toney

    • @feliscorax
      @feliscorax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s the only fighter in history to start his bouts already destroyed - but you should see how the fights end.

    • @irvinmorales1409
      @irvinmorales1409 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's got milk baby!

    • @matthewgibbs1366
      @matthewgibbs1366 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was going to say the same thing. We know what you meant Tony. Lol

    • @sidhu139
      @sidhu139 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @JuggoJuggo Aar yu moaking hes graamur end spaling? Shaim aun yuu.

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    @youngdaileyjr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @MasterFatness
    @MasterFatness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Holyfield was on point the first 4 rounds. He was really trying to knock Toney out. You rarely see Evander fight with that much zest so early in a fight. Unfortunately, the energy he expended in doing so came back to bite him.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      No, it was a good decision by Holyfield. He knew Toney's defense was top notch and he probably would not be able to seriously hurt him in the later rounds anymore. It was a good shot to try and catch him with something early while he still had good pop in his strikes

    • @jaymack5875
      @jaymack5875 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It was his hepatitis that sapped him. Try fighting with something that will suck the life outta you at any time.

    • @dc8061
      @dc8061 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Wrong. He couldn't headbutt his way out of this one.

    • @eddieprieto6511
      @eddieprieto6511 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@dc8061 Hahahah, you must be some Tyson fan that can't let go of the past

    • @eddieprieto6511
      @eddieprieto6511 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@dc8061Tyson admitted that he himself was a dirty fighter.

  • @DCavu
    @DCavu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've just discovered your channel. Great video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Definitely will subscribe for more.

    • @BoxingAfterDark
      @BoxingAfterDark  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thank you, look forward to seeing you around!

  • @Didderly
    @Didderly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid' many thanks for the upload

  • @spicymustardhotdogs394
    @spicymustardhotdogs394 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are great. Keep up the good work man.👍

  • @andyanderson5637
    @andyanderson5637 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    James was the gangsta in boxing back in his day, very underestimated.

    • @21GunStudio
      @21GunStudio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He had a Mofo’s attitude, that’s for sure! Serves you well in the hurtin business

  • @frankguidera6828
    @frankguidera6828 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    James Toney whenever he put his mind to something he could give you a show

  • @tothetopCarlos
    @tothetopCarlos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was a fantastic breakdown. New sub

  • @2AHambino
    @2AHambino 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New follower, love the edit!!!

  • @jacksonbauer5199
    @jacksonbauer5199 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The respect each showed for the other was some powerful nostalgia. I never understood why some fighters (yeah, “marketability”, but that’s not relevant to me in the slightest) talk endless shit about their opponents. If you call a guy a no talent bum and then you beat him, you beat a bum. Conversely, if he beats you, you just lost to a bum. I can admit that I’m not a talented boxer, but I have loved the sport since my grandfather would sit me down to watch old black and white bouts with him. I was a D1 collegiate wrestler though and I competed in Judo from an early age so I can relate to the “essence” of boxing. Like wrestling, boxing requires a mixture of skill, discipline, power, agility, intelligence and the willingness to suffer through adversity to attain something you want. Of course that’s a heavily abridged list, but it serves its intended purpose. My dad always told me to be as respectful as possible towards my opponents and whenever speaking about them, to be complimentary regarding their abilities and skill set. I never asked why, it just made sense particularly when applied to a scenario similar to the one I mentioned above.

    • @HanzLO88
      @HanzLO88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your grandfather taught you well.

    • @jacksonbauer5199
      @jacksonbauer5199 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That he did and he is sorely missed, but a bright spot in my mind is that I am able to pass on to my son what my father and his father passed on to me. Thanks for the kind words!

  • @Greg-io1ip
    @Greg-io1ip 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Toney was one of the hardest punchers out there. But this is 10+ years PAST Evander's prime. Not a real good example of Hollyfield's fantastic career.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      it was hardly Toney's prime either - and Holyfield was a FAR bigger man...

    • @myhatmygandhi6217
      @myhatmygandhi6217 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Toney was a middleweight who went up by gaining fat, Holyfield was on roids and had beaten Tyson twice. There's no excuses, Toney broke him.

  • @JetBlack-jd7uw
    @JetBlack-jd7uw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boxing after Dark is the name of a real program I used to watch on espn, you’re a funny guy

  • @blake2411
    @blake2411 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video man

  • @zackdicker9837
    @zackdicker9837 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    NO HOLDING NO RUNNING JUST STRAIGHT OUT BOXING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SQUARED CIRCLE(A STRAIGHT OUT BRAWL WITH CLASS)💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥

    • @grahamjames5934
      @grahamjames5934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just head butting, and ointment on gloves !!! No big deal !!!!!! SHFH !!!!

  • @zackdicker9837
    @zackdicker9837 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WOW!! ALL THOSE BIG THUNDEROUS PUNCHES BOTH FIGHTERS DISTRIBUTED AND NO SWOLLEN FACES AND NOT MUCH BLOOD💯🔥🔥🤔

  • @experiencethevibemediainc
    @experiencethevibemediainc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work!

  • @Manneeyy
    @Manneeyy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Boxing back then was way different than now. Look at this action packed fight😮

  • @rscarf1
    @rscarf1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Holyfield was 40 and Toney was 35. If Holyfield was 35, it would have been a different fight.

    • @yyunus3120
      @yyunus3120 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No man, it would almost be the same, trust me. Toney was too good for Holyfield. Too fast, no chances against his movement and agility, etc.

  • @Khonnell66
    @Khonnell66 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    This fight makes you realise just how good a prime RJJ was to have done to Toney what he did

    • @thediaz07
      @thediaz07 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      FR!

    • @doitall36
      @doitall36 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well Toney wasn't Weight drained fighting Heavyweight lol

    • @therealc.t.7085
      @therealc.t.7085 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@doitall36Being weight drained isn’t why he lost to Roy.

    • @RRFriction
      @RRFriction 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​​@@doitall36In the words of James Toney ...I shouldn't have underestimated Roy Jones

    • @ceciliaabdalla4954
      @ceciliaabdalla4954 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      RJJ was built for boxing

  • @IdaiMakayaPublications
    @IdaiMakayaPublications 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a great video 👍

  • @dafullclip
    @dafullclip 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent! Thanks.

  • @vegasmitch1472
    @vegasmitch1472 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Didn't Know James Toney was that Good & i watched that Era. Just played poker with a guy that said He saw Toney, BoneCrusher & Ray Mercer at a Golf Course in South or North Carolina & that's what had Me watching a Fight of His. He Beat Holyfield So He Must have been Good!!

    • @kendall_5k720
      @kendall_5k720 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Merciless Ray Mercer and Bonecrusher Smith I would have loved to be there

  • @Inca13
    @Inca13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Both one of a kind fighters.. never see warriors like them again

  • @arthurbrown-jy2ez
    @arthurbrown-jy2ez 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video really well done I just subscribed to you

  • @Zane_Zaminsky
    @Zane_Zaminsky 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, those wicked body shots by Toney! 👊💥

  • @kevincarpenter3428
    @kevincarpenter3428 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    James toney? Fail his english exam? That's unpossible!

    • @JezuzIsLord
      @JezuzIsLord 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Still can't believe he fought at 160

  • @cuba8188
    @cuba8188 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Toney was my all time fav boxer fought anyone anytime any weight and never been knocked out not even in sparring! What a beast! One of the real old school legends! Loved to study his fight and never seen any fighter more poised and comfortable in the ring in my entire life! Had he taken training seriously I think he couldve beaten anyone at any weight class! Take notes kids this is how u box

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Roy Jones Jr was a bad match up for his style. Roy smothers his power hand after landing something and James toney had no answer

    • @cuba8188
      @cuba8188 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sky-oq5mr he was also weight drained and slacked off in the gym.. plus he was fighting one of the best ever..

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cuba8188 who slacks off for a fight against Roy Jones Jr? Really think about that question before you speak again. As for weight drained, it didn't seem to effect him at all, it was a hard fight. Roy nullified his offense, when the skill difference is at that level none of your excuses matter

    • @burtonaka...
      @burtonaka... 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Toney and Duran were as skilled as they come. When you put the picture in perspective, however, somebody wants to stifle that perspective because it grates against the inherent bias people harbor. Example: Duran fought Leonard and out-muscled him and dominated him in the early part of the bout. Leonard adjusted and they had some viscious exchanged. The thing about that fight, though, is that Leonard never dominated Duran the way Duran dominated him ( in the first part of the bout ) Now, it's a k own fact that Duran went up 2 whole weights to fight Leonard and he already had 70 fights. The intangible here is that he had something to prove: he wasn't done yet. It turns out that he began to slide as time progressed but it certainly wasn't in their first bout. Now Leonard legitimately lost against Duran at his best and defeated Thomas Hearns too.
      What sets both fights apart is that both fighters were in peak condition and most importantly, the proof of thus is how the fight goes down. So Duran needs a toilet and quits in the 2nd fight but then suddenly, it's not like Duran/Leonard 1 or Hearns/Leonard 1. He didn't suddenly become that much better than Duran. Definitely have to factor in conditoning.
      So the reason for the difference between Leonard Duran 1 and 2 isn't because suddenly one fighter became more skilled. It was conditioning. The first part of the Duran/Leonard first fight tells you that. Leonard withstood the early beating and came back. When you see a fight like Jones vs. Toney, it's beyond obvious that the same factor existed. It is a prime consideration, an obvious factor and a part of what is called a perspective. Toney wasn't at his best and the fans lost out, as with Duran vs. Leonard 2. I just don't see why narrow-minded people act as though weighing in on the true factors, no pun intended here, us somehow relegated to an excuse. I believe it reflects the limitation of the biased observer

    • @burtonaka...
      @burtonaka... 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The point is, everybody knows how great that Leonard/Hearns bout was and it came down to one factor: conditioning.
      A fighter with Hearns' body fat ratio, he succumbed to that...

  • @deckape714
    @deckape714 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great commentary

  • @thewiz9727
    @thewiz9727 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dayum. What an absolute clinic. Toney was just on a different level that night

  • @ControlAllDa1337
    @ControlAllDa1337 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    James Toney was so freaking good man. One of the greats. Slick as all hell. Just don't put him in an octagon 😂

    • @tence_6965
      @tence_6965 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude was/is a warrior! Sad how he speaks now.

  • @toneykaasman2359
    @toneykaasman2359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both James and Evander are two of the best boxing has ever known, their contribution to boxing is legit legendary and remarkable. Two greats

  • @inujoshwa89
    @inujoshwa89 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Magnificent talent never leaves"❤

  • @BlackCanvasAudio
    @BlackCanvasAudio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I watched this fight live in Vegas. James Toney is one of my all time favorite fighters. He was the underdog and I put 800 bucks on him. I won big when he knocked Evander out. Then I lost my mind later that night at Crazy Horse Too!!! lmaoooo

  • @Greg-io1ip
    @Greg-io1ip 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    I trained at Memorial Park in Houston when Hollyfield was training there. He wasn't but 5'10"-5'11", but he was a beast. All muscle and bone, and he could jog that 3.1 mile loop twice a day with calisthenics in between. Chin ups, pushups, etc. He was a true athlete.

    • @alrikmartin5325
      @alrikmartin5325 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Holyfield is definitely like 6'2. I been around him and I'm 5'10.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      he's 6'2 or 6'3 ffs...

    • @Dogfood36
      @Dogfood36 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They say he like 6'4

    • @joeneil5485
      @joeneil5485 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      closer to 7' and 340 lbs...

    • @michaellopez2070
      @michaellopez2070 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s a wenbenyma type build lanky as hell but quick hands actually

  • @jeffgillson
    @jeffgillson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pretty slick with that "Evan"
    @11:17

  • @ronniejones6075
    @ronniejones6075 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very much interesting 😂, Thanks !

  • @i-churchcafe9136
    @i-churchcafe9136 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Toney could have NEVER beaten Holyfield, ( or anyone else ) in their prime. Roy Jones Jr. Beat the snot out of Toney, what do you think a Holifield in his prime would have done?

  • @stephenkirkwood3544
    @stephenkirkwood3544 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    James Toney isn't indestructible, he's undestructible!!!

  • @jamesmkay
    @jamesmkay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro this was like 2 unstoppable objects vs 2 immovable ones. What a fight

  • @robertmagana8784
    @robertmagana8784 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video

  • @Rockiii9
    @Rockiii9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Evander was 40 yrs old. Although still impressive at that age, his reflexes, speed & stamina had, clearly, declined. Had this fight taken place a few years earlier, the result would have been very different.

    • @henrybiggs3113
      @henrybiggs3113 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jamesdeer3129/ Tony was a natural light heavyweight coming out of high school... He lost weight to be able to fight middleweight... That wasn't his natural weight & he beat every body down there but Roy Jones... He couldn't beat Jones @ middleweight... His style fit heavyweights more...💯💯💯

    • @benjaminjackson793
      @benjaminjackson793 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@henrybiggs3113tony still looked soft aginst roy, despite being #2 mw in world after roy. He wasnt some super big MW, he coulda gone down 7 more pounds and hit a lower weight class back then. Natural LHW is cap

    • @henrybiggs3113
      @henrybiggs3113 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benjaminjackson793 / Toney was 5-9 / 5-10 205 graduating high school, the cap is where...🤔🤔🤔 That's his natural body before boxing... Show me a boxer naturally @ that weight that went down & fought middle weight & stayed there...🤔🤔🤔 Jones was a natural middleweight... He bulked up to go light heavyweight / heavyweight... It's way harder conditioning wise to maintain under your natural weight than it is to bulk over it... Toney would never beat Jones @ Super middleweight... With fluids fluctuations, & dehydration problems from the shift, Toney would always be lethargic against the naturally quicker Jones, period... That's not cap, that's human science...🙄🙄🙄

    • @grahamjames5934
      @grahamjames5934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He wouldn't have mercy ! HE WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOCKED THE Fuc#$d out !!! LMFAO

    • @keepemcumming4417
      @keepemcumming4417 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I love Toney but a young Holyfield would of smoked Toney

  • @markojokanovic349
    @markojokanovic349 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Round of applause ladies and gentlemen, for the referee who had the balls to be in the ring between the two 😅😂

  • @joemadsen2917
    @joemadsen2917 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a battle!!!

  • @johnhunt4865
    @johnhunt4865 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a incredible fight

  • @asgardpictures
    @asgardpictures 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Yes Holyfield was past his prime but so was Toney, 10 years and 50 pounds heavier than his best days. While a little younger, Toney also at that point had 30 more professional bouts than EV. I think it evens out.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the fact that Holyfield only had a couple of pro fights as a light-heavy before moving up to cruiserweight, whereas Toney was a middleweight world champion is perhaps worth mentioning.
      Holyfield was a much bigger man in height and natural stature...

    • @joewilly6021
      @joewilly6021 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      holyfield days a way from 41yrs old

  • @martinhughes2637
    @martinhughes2637 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Holyfield was always complete class. A real champion.

    • @DJK-cq2uy
      @DJK-cq2uy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 🤣

  • @mauricecampbell-stiles4902
    @mauricecampbell-stiles4902 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The sound effects were great. You could hear each punch land.

  • @kingspiffy_6mg520
    @kingspiffy_6mg520 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    James toney I as moving boyyy footwork was hella nice 🔥👏

  • @yamucha
    @yamucha 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Loved this fight, watched it several times. Evander tried to use them headbutts he used on Tyson but Toney was too slick. Good job Toney ✊🏾 also loved the show boating to the judges 😆

  • @Robsam28
    @Robsam28 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Two warriors, Toney is one of the most skillful and tough boxers in boxing.

  • @Niggleblade1986
    @Niggleblade1986 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Each shot sounds like an explosion. Some heavy hands

  • @Rankbaajin
    @Rankbaajin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An incredible fight one of the best

  • @kingtyomama6564
    @kingtyomama6564 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    James Toney was soooooo talented. This was an enjoyable beatdown of the king of Headbutts Evander "Many Losses" Holyfield

    • @f16Azis
      @f16Azis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Спасибо я тоже рад уничтожению Холифилда

  • @Barcodev43
    @Barcodev43 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That head movement and walk back was sick at 5:18

  • @infocision777
    @infocision777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These boxing videos are so addicting

  • @pregorygeck6605
    @pregorygeck6605 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After watching the Paul Diaz fight I felt somehow sick. Thankfully this video came up in my recommendations and now I'm feeling much better. ❤

  • @andrewmorris6187
    @andrewmorris6187 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Holyfield was past his prime and had been in way to many hard fights.

    • @Bidness100
      @Bidness100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah He Just Look Like He Was Out Of It

  • @transformyalifestyle1349
    @transformyalifestyle1349 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Holyfield a legend! Toney what a BEAST, he would dominate these days heavyweights , slick and powerful

    • @claytonandrews1907
      @claytonandrews1907 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You done lost your mind. James Toney was a non disciplined FIGHTER WHO WOULD NOT HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO EVEN STAY IN THE RING FOR 4 OR 5 ROUNDS WITH HOLYFIELD IN HIS PRIME. AND GIYS LIKE TYSON FURY and the Bronze BOMBER WOULD KILL TONEYS SHORT FAT SELF

  • @colemansesson9368
    @colemansesson9368 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My god those punches sound crazy

  • @moondogaudiojones1146
    @moondogaudiojones1146 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent foray into two great fighters

  • @TomTom-rh5gk
    @TomTom-rh5gk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    James Toney one of the greatest fighter ever,

  • @musicdunc
    @musicdunc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Holyfield was done at this point. Tony benefited from the wear and tear that the champ had endured over the years.

  • @coreythompsonTheOneandOnly
    @coreythompsonTheOneandOnly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boxing after dark you have great eyes, you saw James toney stick out his tongue and boy was it quick.

  • @williamblackfyre4866
    @williamblackfyre4866 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Holyfield was such a warrior. The amount of time I've watched him just sit in the pocket and exchange. Just crazy the amount of punishment he's taken over the years and continued to push forward. He's 40 here and clearly outmatched, but man, he is just absorbing those shots, thank God they threw in the towel.

  • @greg2380NY
    @greg2380NY 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Evander was one of the best in his prime and I doubt he would’ve lost to Tony back then. But Tony was a big, quick beast that had it all. He beat the breaks off Holyfield in this fight landing hard power punches with speed and precision. Even Holyfield said he was shocked by Tony’s speed. James Tony is one of the most underrated fighters because of his KO loss to Roy jones jr.

    • @keithallsop
      @keithallsop 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Loss by UD to RJJ, fight went the distance. RJJ was in another dimension at that time, untouchable.

  • @Ruthlesss86
    @Ruthlesss86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, listening to Toney and Holyfield talk nowadays... you can't make out their words. 😢

  • @jameswilkins2820
    @jameswilkins2820 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:16 James Tony said im Undestructable!!!! 😂😂😂

  • @gravel2474
    @gravel2474 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    You could tell Holyfield was older because he landed far fewer headbutts against Toney than he did against previous opponents

    • @mateaukalua4426
      @mateaukalua4426 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      😂😂

    • @dpar9891
      @dpar9891 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Headbutt Champion

    • @goldman77700
      @goldman77700 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      All those headbutts slowed down his headbutt output. Who knew? 😂

    • @pikkon899
      @pikkon899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No headbutts were landed because the ref kept telling Evander through out the entire fight; "watch your head, Evander!" Holyfield already had the reputation of headbutting and Toney's corner successfully got the ref to check for them. Evander also moved slower because he came back from surgery. His left shoulder was repaired but it gave out on him after the 3rd. You can see that he could no longer keep his left hand up because his shoulder was gone and his output decreased. Watch the entire fight. Don't watch edits like these. They paint an entirely different narrative than what actually took place. Toney beat Evander, no question about it but not like how this video presents it.

    • @BlueKidSwag
      @BlueKidSwag 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Oh shush hater. He has more ability in his left toe nail than you do in your entire being

  • @dimviesel
    @dimviesel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You not only have to survive Holyfield’s fists….but his headbutts as well. Yikes!