To have stumbled on these three brilliantly drawn Dickensian characters here on TH-cam who, far from being stuck in the past, generously share their piercing insight on the current moment, and indeed adding some hope, is a joyful wonder in itself.
Iain is a genius, we are only starting to come to terms with what he has brought together for us in The Matter With Things. I hope we are wise enough to pay attention
My thoughts exactly about this quote, scroll after for a similar Robert Anton Wilson quote. "Every system of thought is a squint at the truth and the more rigid the system, the worse the squint. " -Lin Yutang, The Importance of Living “Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence.” - Robert Anton Wilson
Well, Slave, we all have our own particular BELIEFS, but ultimately, there exists objective truth, which is not subject to our misconceptions and misunderstandings. One who has transcended mundane relative truth is said to be an ENLIGHTENED soul. 😇
"The two hemispheres of my mind were in the sharpest contrast - on the one side, a many-islanded sea of myth and poetry, on the other a glib and shallow rationalism. Nearly everything I loved I believed to be imaginary. Nearly everything I believed to be real I thought grim and meaningless."
At about 47 mins i feel very much that the talk of the ‘ blueprint’ if you like into which antennae grow sits very well with Rupert `sheldrake’s morphic resonance and underlines the opportunity for the new biology which earlier on you indicate is sorely needed….
Regarding an early example of recognizing the two sides, with great precision Emerson says; "The perception of this class of truths makes the attraction that draws men to science, but the end is lost sight of in attention to the means. In view of this half sight of science, we accept the sentence of Plato that 'poetry comes nearer the vital truth than history'.
Makes me wish I had read humanities instead of mathematics. Imagine being able to have conversations like this every day, and get paid for it! And CS Lewis? His poem reveals to me a tortured mind. Philosophy fills now bowls, and imagination ultimately serves only to guide reason.
Great conversation!! Listening, I am vaguely seeing coming to life in the Imagination a new College in Oxford, one dedicated to the Arts, Philosophy and Imagination. A bunch of you related philosophers and poets should find a happy billionaire somewhere to help you bring it into Being!
I'd go much further. He - presumably you're referring to the man with the pipe and the beard - pulls so much of the energy over into his own self-absorption that much of the potential of the meeting is drained away thereby.
For all the talk bout holism, there's no reference to capitalism and of how socialism (China) is eating your lunch. Socialism has the bigger picture in terms of health, education, public transport.
Is it just me or did your guests miss the lecture Iain gave on contemporary in-your-face camera angles? But it is like this, so act. For it is a moral responsibility. Conditioning only occurs once you are aware of it (in a human paradigm).
To have stumbled on these three brilliantly drawn Dickensian characters here on TH-cam who, far from being stuck in the past, generously share their piercing insight on the current moment, and indeed adding some hope, is a joyful wonder in itself.
Iain is a genius, we are only starting to come to terms with what he has brought together for us in The Matter With Things. I hope we are wise enough to pay attention
By God, this is incredibly powerful and meaningful. Thank you so very much!!!
Love love love your final poem Malcolm. All 3 of you come back soon!!!!
Absolutely fascinating exploration of imagination and reason through the lens of Bardic neuropoetry, complete with the perfect poetic ending. 10/10.
Here are our TRIBAL ELDERS. let us sit their feet a while.
Although Malcom is incredibly interesting it would have been good to hear the others speak more and be allowed to finish their thoughts.
My poetry is jamming your machine- what a wonderful poem shared!
My thoughts exactly about this quote, scroll after for a similar Robert Anton Wilson quote.
"Every system of thought is a squint at the truth and the more rigid the system, the worse the squint. " -Lin Yutang, The Importance of Living
“Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence.” - Robert Anton Wilson
If you don’t mind I will share these wonderful quotes
Well, Slave, we all have our own particular BELIEFS, but ultimately, there exists objective truth, which is not subject to our misconceptions and misunderstandings.
One who has transcended mundane relative truth is said to be an ENLIGHTENED soul. 😇
"The two hemispheres of my mind were in the sharpest contrast - on the one side, a many-islanded sea of myth and poetry, on the other a glib and shallow rationalism. Nearly everything I loved I believed to be imaginary. Nearly everything I believed to be real I thought grim and meaningless."
Love the Lin Yu Tang quote from The Importance of Living
Beautiful!
At about 47 mins i feel very much that the talk of the ‘ blueprint’ if you like into which antennae grow sits very well with Rupert `sheldrake’s morphic resonance and underlines the opportunity for the new biology which earlier on you indicate is sorely needed….
Regarding an early example of recognizing the two sides, with great precision Emerson says; "The perception of this class of truths makes the attraction that draws men to science, but the end is lost sight of in attention to the means. In view of this half sight of science, we accept the sentence of Plato that 'poetry comes nearer the vital truth than history'.
At point 1 hour 9 mins, reminded of Rumi “take one step and then the path will unfold before you..”
Brilliant.
1:05:02 fantastic point of view
Early Clarity? Rushing to a metaphor of duality. Much Love.
1:06:33 - 1:09:09 - Malcolm Guite - STORY & POEM: "My poetry is jamming your machine ..."
Wonderful wonderful!
Wonderful!
thought Iain had changed haircut
Makes me wish I had read humanities instead of mathematics. Imagine being able to have conversations like this every day, and get paid for it! And CS Lewis? His poem reveals to me a tortured mind. Philosophy fills now bowls, and imagination ultimately serves only to guide reason.
Great conversation!! Listening, I am vaguely seeing coming to life in the Imagination a new College in Oxford, one dedicated to the Arts, Philosophy and Imagination. A bunch of you related philosophers and poets should find a happy billionaire somewhere to help you bring it into Being!
God love the internet
Love it!
Malcom @1hr o1. Love M love Iain!
Call me a dreamer and yet we’re it not for the dreamer reaching out into the unknown and unseen . Ah…we’re it not for the dream.
Wow ….three more bookcases to add to the 472,000 I’ve seen in the last two years ! Wouldn’t have a book to sell by any possible chance ?
Wonderful vivanelle! 😆👍
I think ok going to take out my pipe for this one
Truth and consequences. Is that a title for someone's next book? You can claim alternative facts but you cannot manufacture alternative consequences.
You blokes are actual Hobbits. My word, I lived when Hobbits lived, you blokes should have had credits in the films
The man with the beard talks far to much …difficult at times for Iain to actually get a word in ….let him speak
@@SymbolsPatternsGnosis Clever boy ….It’s called manners
@@SymbolsPatternsGnosis oops …I stand corrected ..
I'd go much further. He - presumably you're referring to the man with the pipe and the beard - pulls so much of the energy over into his own self-absorption that much of the potential of the meeting is drained away thereby.
@@johnking6519 yes agreed
Rodriguez Barbara Clark Kevin Johnson Brenda
For all the talk bout holism, there's no reference to capitalism and of how socialism (China) is eating your lunch. Socialism has the bigger picture in terms of health, education, public transport.
Harris Thomas Lee Donald Young Frank
White Margaret Harris William Thompson Anna
Is it just me or did your guests miss the lecture Iain gave on contemporary in-your-face camera angles? But it is like this, so act. For it is a moral responsibility. Conditioning only occurs once you are aware of it (in a human paradigm).