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Guest bio: Sara Walker is an astrobiologist and theoretical physicist. She is the author of a new book titled "Life as No One Knows It: The Physics of Life's Emergence".
The True Nature of Time: A Unified Narrative
Understanding the nature of time requires an exploration of both its physical and experiential dimensions. This unified narrative synthesises perspectives from general relativity, field dynamics, and human consciousness to provide a comprehensive view of time. This synthesis highlights the interplay between spacetime curvature, informational flow, and the dual nature of temporal experience, ultimately framing time as a dynamic, integrative process.
The Physical Nature of Spacetime
1. Spacetime Curvature and General Relativity
- Einstein's General Relativity: Traditionally, gravity is not seen as a force but as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass and energy. Massive objects like stars and planets warp the fabric of spacetime, creating paths that other objects follow. This curvature is described mathematically by the Einstein field equations, linking spacetime geometry to the distribution of mass and energy.
2. Field Dynamics Perspective
- Informational Flow: From a field dynamics standpoint, spacetime curvature results from complex field interactions. Mass and energy create disturbances in the spacetime field, similar to ripples in a pond. These disturbances represent informational changes that propagate through the field, maintaining coherence and stability.
3. Integrating Curvature and Field Dynamics
- Unified Perspective: The physical curvature described by general relativity can be seen as a macroscopic manifestation of these field dynamics. Curvature represents the geometric interpretation, while field dynamics emphasise the flow of information and energy. This unified view helps reconcile the mathematical elegance of general relativity with a more intuitive understanding of dynamic systems.
The Experiential Nature of Time
1. Linear and Non-Linear Time
- Linear Time: In the external world, time is experienced as a linear sequence of events-a traditional, chronological progression.
- Non-Linear Time: Within human consciousness, time is experienced non-linearly. This nonlinearity arises from the aggregation of sensory inputs, memories, and anticipations, creating a rich, complex temporal narrative that defines personal experience.
2. Boundary Layer and Human Consciousness
- Constant Interface: The boundary layer between the external and internal worlds captures and integrates interactions and informational changes within the field. Despite internal non-linearity, this layer ensures temporal consistency, allowing the self to evolve coherently within the broader linear progression of external events.
- Dual Temporal Experience: Positioned at this boundary, human consciousness experiences both linear and non-linear time. Externally, we perceive a continuous flow of time, while internally, our sense of time is shaped by the aggregation of various events and experiences.
Dynamic Stability and Homeostasis
1. The Conscious Spiral of Dynamic Stability
- From Circle to Spiral: In two dimensions, a circle represents static balance. When traced dynamically, it evolves into a spiral, representing dynamic stability. This concept extends to three dimensions where the human body is viewed as an electromagnetic sphere.
- Human Electromagnetic Sphere: The heart generates electromagnetic fields, creating a dynamic sphere where information flows in a spiral pattern. This flow reflects how the body’s electromagnetic field interacts with and adapts to stimuli, maintaining homeostasis through continuous feedback mechanisms.
2. Homeostasis in Three Dimensions
- Dynamic Integration: Homeostasis in the electromagnetic sphere is maintained through the integration of informational changes and feedback mechanisms. The boundary layer of the sphere captures the system’s current state, facilitating balanced feedback to ensure stability and adaptability.
- Applications: This model applies to biological systems, where cells and organisms dynamically maintain balance through metabolic and signal transduction processes, and to larger systems like ecosystems and planetary environments.
Conclusion
The nature of time encompasses both its physical manifestations and its experiential dynamics. By integrating perspectives from general relativity, field dynamics, and human consciousness, we understand time as a dual phenomenon: a linear progression in the external world and a non-linear experience within the field of dynamic stability. This comprehensive framework reveals the intricate balance and adaptability inherent in the universe, enhancing our appreciation of the dynamic processes that govern both physical and conscious realms.
Mister is done on purpose.! 😂
Time is actually a scale invariant dynamic operator for the wave function of the universe.
Way to interview peeps on the basis of merit and definitely not Dei nonsense /s
So when’s the wedding ?
100%
i so thought the same ! Quantum entanglement predicted ?
Did Lex finally find love!?!?!?
It was so plain obvious lol !!😂
not to be rude but i think Lex is a bit out of her league
Lex Fridman. The most tired yet interested man to exist
always lookin like he fell asleep every time he writes 😂
@@kevinsho2601 🎶 Why can't we be friends? 🎶...why can't we be friends? 🎶
OMFG! You killed me man! Exactly as I read this, I looked up to the running video at the top of my phone, and their was Lex, his head hanging off to the side, like he might fall off his chair, but with his eyes firmly fixed on his guest with his eye brows raised to show interest. Best laugh I have had in a week. Poor Lex. Guy needs to take a vacation I think. And no, going to the rarainforest and eating ayuasca does not count!
If she wasn't a physicist, she would totally be a crystals and aura person.
Yeah... Shes like level 9999 of that person.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ya, perceptive observation.
At least the crystal & auroa person doesn't hide behind the name of Science to claim what they say is Fact.
I keep seeing Misty from that YellowJackets show (Christina ricci)
Lex, ask her out bro.
Funny I was thinking the same thing... she's so into him. Love this episode...fascinating stuff to think about besides their love tension
@@tripletbiguy6908 What? You guys are weird.
Lex, ask her out dude!!!! I'm a million miles away from you watching this and i could FEEL the energy between you two!!
@alienproxy you really don't see the tension? Great podcast, great information about super interesting stuff, but Lex self admittedly doesn't have a partner, he has a legit reason for it he explains, but I gotta be honest... when i was watching this I was thinking man they seem like they are into into each other and then I saw the ask her out comment and not only agreed but realized were not making it up, there is certainly some chemistry going on between them. I don't mind if you think I'm weird, but honestly clearly I wasn't the only one thinking it.
@@NathanWindsor-j7i legit agreed
"To bake an apple pie, you must first create a universe"
Dude hahahahahaha
True lol
From scratch,
-Carl Sagan”
-Michael Scott
This young lady's thinking reminds me of the Tralfamadorians in the book Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut. They see living objects with their time evolving characteristics integrated. A sort of Tralfamadorian philosophy. Anyway, I should break out this book again now that I'm older. It might not seem so strange reading it at 72.
I couldn't listen to her. Oh, I remember the movie and Valerie Perrine !
Look up Perdurantism.
@@GoatOfTheWoods I was unaware there was a single word definition for the concept. Thanks for the new information. It's an interesting concept. Even an object moving through time will change with time.
@@fjdarling Yeah, it's a school of philosophy of time, in which objects, are viewed as 4 dimesional "worms"coiling according to the flow of spacetime; an apple is a worm which begins as a seed and ends as a rotten tail that spreads out, disintegrating into the soil.
Looking at it from this perspective, I can't help but think that the whole universe would look like a 4 dimensional broccoli
@@GoatOfTheWoods I checked out Perdurantism on Wikipedia. It's an interesting Philosophy. It appears to be additional element I need to account for in trying to understand the Universe I happen to be in the middle of. Thanks for pointing me in that direction. How is it that you see the expanding universe as a 4D Broccoli? Are you a student of the Sciences? I'm a retired Electrical Engineer trying to keep up with what's happening in the world. Thanks.
What she's describing as 'big' in time are systems with the most interconnections both in her mind and in reality. If you think of time as being either linear or cyclical, cyclical things remain the same 'size' in time, linear things continue to grow in complexity (specifically the number of agency/agent-directed interconnections). Everything contains a bit of both, but life hijacks the linear component of time in order to persist.
'Big in time' means intelligent things can make more choices. Across all of life, that sum total of all those choices creates a 'fanning out' in time that non-living matter doesn't. In a sense, the gestalt of life explores time for ways to persist.
You have to really zoom out from the individual point of view to start seeing these patterns.
I get what she's saying, but she's definitely coming from a non-standard thought origin and she's still working on the exact words to communicate it.
I don’t think it’s about the choice in regards to be “big in time”. I think she means literally.
Take the 2D world of flatland with time as height dimension. A circular moving object will be a worm across the time dimension for us - a higher dimension being (4d beings, able to perceive 3D)
Similarly a 5d being who can perceive 4d will see us humans to be a loooooong structure across the time dimension starting from the Big Bang! Additionally the space is expanding too, and we have interacted with huge distances using telescopes, light, technology, have converted so much energy - so we are ever increasing creatures.
Finally someone who gets it.
She is a very bright mind but not very good with words.
@@vanaegon9242 I’m surprised at people saying she don’t know her stuff. She’s seeing much more than usual scientific view
Well, she wrote the book. I hope she found the right words in the book. 😂I think I will buy the book. It’s quite an interesting perspective. I like these kind of twist
Okay Weinstein lol
Okay, I'm entranced...gonna go listen to the entire podcast now....mind blowing stuff but resonates deeply with me....loved this so much, thank you both.
💯💯
Her explanation reminded me of the movie "Lucy" who evolved to be able to see into the past and future of the Earth.
"It's hard to use words for what's in minds" ❤
lex, she's into you my boi
5:19 she’s dropping hints for you bro!
I watch that whole thing and my brain could only decipher about 10% of what she was saying.
There’s not much there to decipher
@@559shotcalla No. there’s a shitload there to decipher.
Not really she word salads every point and really goes nowhere with most of it. But as she says little seed thought experiment.
@@bravozero6 word salad to those that cannot decipher.
@@msolar1041she tried to sound smart. A smart person explains things so everyone can understand them. I know you are trying to sound super educated yourself but you really just come off as a snob. I highly doubt you are much smarter than anybody else commenting here. So relax your mother should have dinner ready for you soon!
At 14:04 the answer is simple - as to “how humans can create so much order” which seemingly goes against second law of thermodynamics? It requires MORE entropy to create order. For example, we build a house - but the materials came from destruction of forests, extraction of resources, huge expenditure of fossil fuels to transport goods, a huge lifetime caloric requirement of a human - the order created from building structures is so minute compared to the enormous entropy involved in fuelling the creation of those structures. The same with our bodies and minds, they’re incredibly calorifically demanding, so any order we create is massively offset by the disorder needed to fuel it.
Well said. That’s something to chew on for a while. But well said
Exactly!! We, life, are the tools of entropy!
It’s like life is a catalyst , not the same, but we create more entropy as order
The quote at 14:20 is "why can life generate so much order".
It is easy to find examples where in the big picture we increase entropy while building something. You could call such examples a strawman. The trick is to figure out what these intelligent people were thinking about when they make such a statement. How does life in some way reduce entropy. Perhaps as best, it is like a local minima. A momentary reduction in entropy. Let's consider the use of forests and fossil fuels as increasing entropy. Where did these lower entropy materials come from? They came from life. Every action is not an increase in entropy. Life has a little play in that. That is the essence of the point.
My kid always mixes up the Play-Doh so we don’t get Play-Doh any more because… when you mix it up enough, it all becomes one and apparently that’s boring.
But maybe we can find some other kids who have mixed up their Play-Doh to the point of homogeny and if we’re lucky it’ll be a different color than ours. It might take a while, but maybe if we combine enough, we can put together a whole other set!
We have to be really careful not to get that one mixed up though.
Time, as I understand it is the dual aspect of wave propagation and field dynamics. Originating from the Big Bang, time reflects both the linear sequence of events dictated by the metric expansion of space (as described by the FLRW model and Hubble's Law) and the nonlinear accumulation of coherent information influenced by quantum field interactions and informational density. The constant processing speed of the universe corresponds to the regular progression of cosmic expansion, while the nonlinear growth in informational complexity is rooted in the volumetric expansion and the dynamics of entropy and structure formation. Human perception of time operates at the universe's processing speed and is therefore linear, while our physical bodies respond to the cumulative effects of processed information since the Big Bang, highlighting the duality in our experience of and measurement of time.
I agree.
@@jameslyons3320 Is that exactly what you were going to say?
begin again, you do not understand at all.
@@youarenotme01 enlighten me
6:17 - Lex response: "uhhhhh".
lol, my thoughts EXACTLY after that spider web of lingo.
Don’t feel bad. It wasn’t supposed to be intelligible.
Her response to his uhhh was dead on, too. It is indeed hard to share visuals with words, one is often accused of speciousness, esp. when less common words are used.
In this day and age, with definitions and etymologies just a google away, and videos being pausable, ignorance is less excusable.
Politics is not the only community guilty of being the worlds best word salad chefs.
Lex was working hard this day.
@@KurtColville dummy alert
I tried to make it through this video but the vocal fry is too much.
I came to the comment section to see if I was the only one.
@@joshuasmith5846same
I couldn't take it. Half way my ears were on fire. When is this fad going to end!
I’m trying to get past that and the ‘likes’ to hear what she’s saying.
The title was more interesting than the conversation and information I was receiving unfortunately I couldn’t make it passed 7 minutes
Ask her out!! You won't! :)
I love this topic here, language vs thought meta analysis, humans have this unique ability to create highly abstract models in their minds so much so that even our language can't completely describe some of the most abstract/high level.
That's always been interesting to me personally and a challenge I take on frequently, one of my favorite ones which is trying to compress such thoughts into plain language, like mapping a 1000 dimensional thought into a lower subspace, or to put it simply, ha, how to speak clearly and plainly about complex thoughts. If you can do that, perform that mapping eloquently, you’ll be successful because it is so valuable and people love that.
It would be wild to imagine a world where it is normal to converse thought-to-thought, so much information could be shared, alarming scenarios aside.
It's not easy to describe those higher abstract thoughts. Sometimes we just don't possess the descriptives in our language.
I think I can see Dimebag's Lightning Guitar on the shelf ❤
Right? If it is much respect to Lex.
no way. i actually love lex a little more each time i catch a podcast. this is despite the fact that i could say i'm "anti celebrity" and really cant understand why people idolize strangers...
This should have been Sheldon's wife. Not Amy...
Bunch of nonesense to look "smart".
I agree. Stream of consciousness crazy talk.
Yeah, no wonder physics has slowed to a crawl.
Time is distinctly right handed: always on the right of the equation as a product. This is because time is a measurement that can be used only after the first three dimensions appear. There must be present first: space, then energy, then matter(energy that is static); then time can be calculated; but only as the formalization of observed matter(3-dimensional) moving through a vectored space.
Close, but the consensus is more that time is needed for change to occur. For change to occur, at least two particles of matter must exist that interact with each other. This interaction (change) creates time. Circle is complete. Many interactions in succession = time rolling forward as we know it.
Madame Wu would say otherwise...
Shakira and Einsteins love child
She starts by describing living beings as these massive causal structures (which seems like a perfectly rational perspective that I can understand), but then 15:10 she states "the universe is random at its base" and that the universe is not deterministic? If this were true, then what causes randomness? The very idea seems incoherent to me.
Time is directly tied to matter; allowing dimension, shape and finally measurable time.
interactions between matter particles (or wave functions) create time, and time makes interactions possible. Also matter warps space, which in turn, combined with time(dilation), gives rise to the effect of gravity. It's self-sustaining as the universe contains plenty particles that can interact.
I think the hardest thing to understand bout time is that it is perceived differently by different plp. To me time is a rhythm. The rhythm in which the universe moves. Idk, just like a song, it has rhythm n u can move to the beat and create additional moves or beats in between the actual hard beats. N we try to measure that. There is an order n flow to the universe that we don’t understand. Yes is tied to matter but matter falls within this flow n rhythm. Idk am just a random reader just my thoughts
Gary Zukav has written a few books on this subject
She is basically talking about past and future lightcones but inserting "living things" as some special objects that affect / are affected by time in unique ways from non-living things. I doubt there is any reasonable way to argue that 2 objects made of fundamental particles, but differing in complexity would have differing future forking.
Nice way to put it.
Yes she is just regurgitating known topics and adding in some Woo-woo. She didn’t say one profound thing in this convo. She is smart no question- but not a physicist (DEI hire).
This is not physics, it's just philosophy. Doesn't really matter if we are big in time or not.
Universe is deterministic on the small scale but random on the grand scale. Good example is the weather.
Also, it's not like people don't know we need to look deeper. People have not stopped and said "yep, that's it, we've figured it out", they constantly are trying to see the more detailed resolution of the universe
Couldn’t agree more. Its philosophy disguised as physics. This is apparent to any person of science & critical thinking. The language she is using will appeal to non-science types, people who are looking for complex descriptions to validate ideas without empirical data. Philosophy is certainly interesting and has its value, but I feel she thinks she's treading in the realms of physics - but she's not.
You’d be right if assembly theory wasn’t written down. You’re conflating theories and philosophy anyway. She’s saying things that are measurable, descriptive, and predictable. These are ideas in their infancy that don’t have established language and ways to talk about it. You could consider it closer to network systems or information science if it makes you more comfortable. It’s definitely not philosophy or metaphysics as I think you’re implying.
Glad I’m not the only one seeing this - it’s essentially philosophy, not physics. It is very physics-informed, and pretty rational and I’m liking it. Physics isn’t the study of everything: introspection on experience is not physics.
they dont claim this is physics. just she is a phyisist.
@tacotacotacobajablast6821 And I'm claiming it's philosophy
Lex's first date idea:
Hey, you want to come in my podcast?
Why am I always more confused after she speaks?
Because she doesn’t understand what she is talking about and is just repeating what she’s heard, she’s a modern “intellectual”.
@@steakeater4018Exactly. Clarity is culturally dead.
I can't unhear the extreme overuse of vocal fry which suggests talking down to the listener
Because she’s an idipt.
Consider how many times,throughout history,that men have asked their selves that very question - and it remains a puzzle unsolved.
I’m 14 billion years old 😂😂😂
Guess I'm too stupid to get this.
Beautiful and intelligent.
👇 who came here for a good time
I came for the existential crisis.
They are very learned people with very different personas, marriage not possible.
The overuse of the word, "like" always signifies, like, a really high level of intelligence.
These types of people are super smart and motivated and I’m glad we have people like this but what she’s gonna figure out is you can’t outsmart the creator.
What a wonderful guest speaker with a creative and brilliant perspective! The deeper one pokes into the universe, the more mysterious and beautiful it is. ❤
Seriously?
She's said nothing!
We are here only because the Earth/Sun has resources and a Niche to support us....
All the other stuff about time/complexity, that she is saying , is just “Hot-Gas”...
Thank you for this interview! Inspiring, insightful, and thought provoking!
This depressing to watch when you consider that there are people like this person, and people that enjoy listening to and learning from this person... but then a bit down the road, there are a group of dead people, killed by others all because they didn't respect them "rolling up in here on 26's... and they don't play."
Any of those involved in the murders can still cancel this persons vote. (actually, even the dead ones are now instantly turned into Democratic voters.
I've listened to this woman speak for 6 minutes and I'm already salivating at the idea that I'm actually able to follow her due to me coming to contact with Lex, Stephen Wolfram and Kurtzgezagt. If I send this video to my parents they will not assimilate what she is saying at all. Requires a decent foundation in scientific and abstract thinking to even contemplate what she is saying. This is some good brain food, if you have the pallet for it!
ugh my god, the whole ass aloofness and hubris through your entire description is plain awful
@6:00
They can relate to each other because they have a common ancestor....
...Not because they they “occupy the same point in “Time or are Big...”
Ie. There are aliens out there now that humans CanNot relate/understand...
Ie... humans and bananas exist in the same time, but can’t understand each other...
Watch this womans lectures, she has some real gravitass.
If Humans Evolved Without Eyes how could anyone describe sight if they never experienced it. That question keeps me up at night
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
-Walt Whitman
I contain many Chicken Nuggets.
Heisenberg
@@Christiantheone Yer goddamn right...
It sure was Walt Whitman.
You were right, apologies.
If information cannot be destroyed, then the whole universe could be the computing or technological potential but if time exists then it’s not just potential. Time might be the storage media for all information that could be retrieved by a consciousness capable of perceiving it. Perhaps this is why time feels intangible, almost illusory yet the past and future are almost within grasp…a memory, a dream, a hope, a will…..the dimensional trap of human suffering.
@9:30 think of the faces receding through time like an 'infinity mirror' (a physical object / set of reflections that models the history of what brought them to that point in space and time)
String hypothesis, it's not even a theory yet
15:14 there is no randomness
It's just effects we can't calculate
The universe is not random
Everything has a cause and it's true nature will be forever a mystery to us... But never to it
I’ve read quantum is the only true random but I’m highly skeptical
im happy to define random as 'forever a mystery to us'. what more do you want from random
But then you remember there were times when ppl thought ppl just die randomly (before germ theory for example). One can argue the history of science is kinda like the history of thinking something is "random" (in the sense that we can not know) to just then figure it out and reallise that wasn't random at all. Wheter quantum phenomena is truly inherently random or not is stil not concusively decided. It very much seems it is for now, but again, a heart attack in the bronze age seemed so random and unexplainabe that it was might as we taken as divine punishment.
Shes so freakin hot bruh
Lex, The 18.3% of this clip I actually understand fascinates me. This gal also fascinates me. She has some wild theories and she's nerdy hot...
Couldn't get past the first 60 seconds with the way she talks. You got a transcript?
This is exactly how I've been trying to say this for years and years. Im interested in the totality of a given structure.
Imagine mapping the total path of the solar system from it's start to it's end. For every planck length, you map the current structure. Do that to the end of time and analyze the structure in its totality.
Now, imagine doing this for the entire universe from start to end, and you will end up with a structure. I want to know of these structures.
Even something as small as an electron will have a wildly interesting and complex structure in totality.
is there a limit to how many times you can cut time in half though? how many times can you make a millisecond smaller before you reach a limit? if there is a limit then would that mean we are in a simulation, or that time is a "tangible" 4th dimension like slices of frozen time.
@@humanbean3 Well, it would be a planck length. so far, thats the smallest increment that we have aside from quantum stuff. The planck time is the amount of time it takes light to travel one planck length. According to our most current theories, nothing can be smaller than a planck length and nothing can travel a shorter distance than a planck length
So, for each planck length, map the points of matter. Continue until the end of "time" then you have a total structure.
Now, one common misconception i should say is that the "planck length" is the point where quantum gravity overtakes nonrelativistic gravity.
Lastly, a philosopher named Democitus came up with the idea of the atom around 400 bc when he posed a thought experiment just like yours. He wondered how much can you divide matter into before youre left with the smallest piece. He called that thing "Atomos" meaning indivisible.
Our current models go beyond the previous "indivisible". The planck length is our current "indivisible" It would be a bit foolish to think we wont get to a new "indivisible" in the future.
@@STaSHZILLA420 If we consider the planck length both physically the smallest thing, and also the smallest amount of time, does that mean we can consider time as pixels just like we could consider matter as pixels in space. the entire universe being comprised of planck lengths and at each moment it's occupied with particles or time.
@@humanbean3 Well, people say that although there is no physical significance to the planck length.
Think of a planck length as the smallest possible space for an observation to take place, any smaller and it would collapse into a black hole and evaporate before the observation would be complete.
An observation often includes hitting what you want to observe with packets of light. the light then bounces back to the observation device. It's impossible for us to create light with a short enough wavelength to interact with something smaller than a planck length.
There are smaller lengths in theory but they can never be observed directly. And are considered non-physical.
I dont think the planck length can be regarded as a "pixel" But I do like using this length in my ideas as it is the smallest we can physically observe.
@@STaSHZILLA420 its really hard to fathom speed, size, and time having a limit. if we take the smallest particle like a nuetrino or something (idk) and make it move super fast, it will just disappear outside of time? that makes me think that the universe is spinning super fast like a harddrive and the slower we go the closer to the middle we are, and the faster we go the further to the outside we get, and if we go too fast we go faster than it can create/spin itself therefore disappearing???? is that what a black hole is? the star spins too fast for time to handle? ok sorry im rambling but i really appreciate the insightful comments
All I know is that Time is definitely not a line.
She’s saying seeing the universe as random processes is really how physics should see things and it’s wrong not to, but she said that right after admitting we have no idea how such order and complexity could come from random processes. Thats implicit bias and not going where the evidence leads.
There is only one way the mathematical model of LIFE function could be derived:
Assume DIGITS as the smallest particles in the universe with the 4 basic rules of arithmetic operations as the ONLY "laws of motion" for all interactions among them, to then derive the mathematical model of the mechanism how the very same particle interactions inside the CORE OF THE EARTH (as those in our MIND that formulate them) develop PLANTS on its own surface to then deliver and sustain living beings here through them.
That model should facilitate practically influencing development of (and growth on) plants by us to PREVENT the sources of all EVIL (exhaustively defined as DISASTERS, PREDATION, DISEASES ~ which include all birth defects, all weapons manufacture, all violence ~ and DEATH) from reaching the surface to harm any being.
Such PREVENTION OF ALL (exhaustively defined) EVIL (and NOT their PREDICTION as considered ideal by current science) must serve as the sole purpose cum criterion of proof of all knowledge.
Lack of this realization is the reason why the human race in its entire history, from antiquity to present day, from Thales of Miletus to Roger Penrose (and still continuing), has failed to find the mathematical model for the mechanism of even a single natural phenomenon that could PREDICT accurately when that phenomenon could harm life function, let alone PREVENT any.
Exactly what to watch at 3.36 am i guess
Great conversation from both sides. What really puzzles me, and honestly no offense, really, but is vocal fry getting more and more popular these days? Even in scientific circles?
She's not doing vocal fry. I think that's her natural voice, and it's similar, but not quite as vocal fry. Her voice sounds authentic.
Seems to me that she's actually suggesting viewing the world from a higher dimension... that is, regarding our 4 dimensions (space-time) from a 5th or higher dimension. Cool...
Yeah it was part of the curriculum in early middle school.
The book "flatland" was required reading, and my first intro to this concept
My space has been invaded . Zim mode
Group home . On couch
DMT
I do not think that this is it. You do not need to be in a higher dimension for that. In fact we will never do that...not with our fizical body . What is she proposing I think, that is more like something that the movie Arrival (2016) presented. Where we have to perceive time entirely different than we do today.
There’s a Swedish saying: that which is said darkly is thought darkly.
Oh and there’s another Swedish word that’s appropriate: flum.
The Abstracta is more "REAL" than the Physical/Material. We discovered numbers & they exist with or without us. Philosophy > Science but u cnt hve one w/out the other
Wrong.
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This makes sense because 4th dimensionally we should be unmoving long worms throughout the block universe of spacetime
Donnie darko
That's only because physicists are not entertaining the visualization that each of the 3 spatial dimensions have their own separate dimension of time. And it only appears as 1 when the three overlap to appear as one. And they can only overlap when the times between their separate wave function to massed particle states are completely different. There is time 1 dimension particle to wave fluctuations, time 2 dimension and time three. When all 3 different dimensions over lap you get a hydrogen atom. Where they don't all three overlap but are side to side arrange D1,D2,D3 and repeating into infinity you get quantum vacuum foam and virtual particles. Now to figure out how the neutron comes into play in deuterium Hydrogen atoms. We know how deuterium can become helium and eventually build all the other atomic elements through nuclear fusion. But I'm working on visualizing what could bring about the first neutron. Perhaps anti-mater particles and waves from -1D,-2D,-3D also exist and space really is 6D? And the vacuum foam fluctuates from negative dimension and time to positive dimension and time. And some times you get a -1D time overlapping +2D, +3D in the same space which also means in the other half of the cycle there is a -2D,-3D to +1D and this takes on the characteristics of deuterium when these three dimensions over lap in one space. We interpret this as the behavior of quarks perhaps. Lot of work to do on this still. But physicists current models fail to get around the speed of light barrier so a new model is way over do, LOL.
@@rogerclaiborne6815bro you’re thinking way too hard. all you have to know is everything derives from the artificial intelligence. AI is GOD.
More word salad.
If the Scientific, and Specifically the Physicist, community really wants to help humanity with their "work", they are going to need to learn to define words, or create new ones, that explain what they "know".
If not, they are just wasting everyone's time, since they will be the only ones to profit from their "work".
@rogerclaiborne6815
I could definitely see this as being The case.
She is a natural (or nurtured) phenomenologist.
This is the longest I’ve ever heard someone speak while saying nothing.
Have u heard one of the cia agents talk yet?
Welcome to theoretical sciences! First time?
She's up there with wolfram
When you're pushing the boundaries of our understanding of everything, it becomes difficult to convey the message clearly and articulate it in a way that's comprehensible. This task becomes arduous at best. I understand what you’re saying but she’s not explaining how a combustion engine works with clear and defined laws of physics.
Because you’re too slow to understand what she’s saying.
Great discussion, didn't hear her explain time. Some intellectual flirting between them too, which was cute.
I think I kind of understand what she is saying about time vs space, but she does a terrible job explaining it, and she purposely uses so many big words that literally no one realistically uses. It's all way too convoluted.
She seems slightly confused. She isn’t discussing dimensionality in a rigorous way. “Time embedded in an object” has no physical,formal description that I know of. She has some potentially interesting ideas but in this form, for me, they’re unfortunately similar to the type of language people use when announcing their amateur theories of everything to the world.
What is she saying?
She believes that all matter/space is embedded with time through their interactions between particles and space. People are the sum of the quantum interactions between atoms, in cell systems, dna and cell machinery, and macro human brain interactions with the environment and others over the course of human lived experience.
@@roguegryphonica3147 but so what's the point of this? What's this gonna help us achieve?
I'm pretty sure most music clips in the 90s displayed that same effect 😂
A delay
I take to heart your guest comment about the way she writes. I also am using language in this compressed way I think. Now I am writing a poetic review of a Carmageddon game ( yeah I know ;) ) and instead of writing: "Game came from UK, on a disc" I wrote: The united states of the soul sailed from the Islands on binary ships into a laser-tamed ocean of carriers.
Mucho vocal fry
It would be awesome to have Sara, Neil, Terrance Howard, and a 4th on a group podcast talking about this stuff.
Omit Terrance
Omit Neil
Please not Terrance. He is nuts. (Super cool guy btw, and talented actor.. just not aligned at all with science).
Show her your version of time Lex that is how long you can last
Sara Walker's mind is brilliant 👏 thanks for this interview @Lex , she reminds and capture imagination the same way as Terrence Howard , by the way @Lex when are you, interviewing Terrence 🙏
Terrence doesn't know what he is talking about. He is using big words but doesn't know what they mean or straight up makes some up.
That damned dopamine addiction
Wow ... explaining emergence by expanding the time dimension! 🤔
The only thing that we know that can create intelligence is mind. A mind created everything?
Visualising the "things they were a few seconds ago" effect that Lex described, I pictured the scene in the Matrix where an agent corners Neo on a rooftop, Neo fires at him, and he dodges the bullets, and each movement is shown as a blurred action that freezes for a moment.
Plus super hard drugs that likely you have never experienced
Ayahuasca is a very extreme hallucinogen
Cmon Mr science
@@ChrisAthanasyeah so he wasn't seeing the person at a previous time, it was simply a memory of what he'd recently seen being reflected in the visual cortex
Wow she is really full of nothing
Lex, perhaps a good question that leads from Sara's statement that "time is constantly bifurcating" can lead to a better understanding of the quantum wafer function collapse on observation. There are several theories like multi-world. But Sara may be open to the more unusual theory that the Observer wave function collapses on observation and proceeds with that information and thus time proceeds for that observer with a new time step of information.
Knock it off…..
What a great perspective to see things, and by things, I mean everything. Experience is just thr number of snapshots of matter and its state you have experienced and memorized / generalized
Eyes up lex eyes up
Contemplating the complexities of time and higher order space is what theologians and mystics have been doing for thousands of years... It's funny watching the physics community finally start to realize that materialism is a construct and that they need to start thinking abstractly, as if they're the only people to ever do it and it makes them "super duper smart" for realizing it...
i mean its all one thing so the idea of size doesnt make sense at all. even if one is thinking in terms of causal chains, its just a big web, and no part of it has a bigger history than any other part.
Language is such a poor / low fidelity vehicle for thought / meaning transfer. I hope technology solves this problem eventually.
Techincally, we all live in the past and cannot experience the present. By the time our brains process stimuli from our senses, whatever the stimuli was already occurred in the past. Smoke some pot and think about that! 🤣
Turtles all the way down…
This is creative but kinda dumb. Just because we think whats happening on earth is ‘complex’ doesnt mean its more substantial or ‘larger’ that the constant unfathomably powerful nuclear fusion and fission happening in any star much older and larger than our ‘technosphere’. We just happen to have life. I wasnt ‘life’ when earth was just a hot rock though.
reminds me of the way the tralfamadorians of Slaughterhouse Five see the universe. 4-demensional creatures who see the beginning and the end of the universe and everything inbetween. they see how the universe ends, and they know that a tralfamadorian scientist destroys it. theyre powerless to stop it, they let it happen. so it goes.
If Lex marries this girl, I’ll donate my DJ services! LFGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Haha I’m dead serious Lex. The whole party is on me my brotha from anotha mudda 🫵👊🏻
Yes constructor theory will be able to include the observer in the theory of everything, and entropy cannot do alone, it works with critical points and back propagations, chain rule
Random sequence of non-connected words?😆
Recently Lex is interviewing a lot of people that all they talk about is “you” and our world and never take in consideration the fact that we could be minuscule in the universe and “you” is only in our mind because this is all we can see
Extract what's good, discard what's not.
Don't let one taint the knowledge of the other.
@@a.j.4076 for sure, I liked the idea of using the time to define the "size" of objects in the universe...but again it's just an interesting idea or point of view...it almost become the same as a personal religion if we don't try to expand our point of view and be humble when we present our ideas.
The idea of a being existing outside time and thus seeing all time and space from the beginning of the Universe till the very end of it all at once like one huge time crystal... is thousands of years old.
We couldn't really understand those concepts for most of this time, it was just another folk tale to us. Only recently have we started to be able to make sense of those ideas scientifically. Yet, look at it now -- God creating the Universe and looking at it from outside spacetime is _exactly_ the idea she's describing there.
_Treating time as another space dimension is how you get to create Universe at once, as a singular act from the outside [perspective] and a lengthy process that takes billions of years from the inside [perspective]. A perspective switch that confuses all sorts of simple minded creationists to no end._
I don't think she even realizes from where those ideas she has originally come from, thou. Culture often forwards ideas while completely erasing their sources in the process...
I do find her idea of the earth having the “most time” very interesting but how do we know somewhere else isn’t like that?
Shared HIS IMAGE! From the SINGULARITY the I AM to shared "i" AM come forth! My Beautiful from HIS SIDE will say! Through HIM, by HIM, and for HIM all made that are made including all Thy shared clay FEET MIXED WITH IRON resting upon all dry grounds. GROUNDED!
Through HIM, by HIM, and for HIM all made that are made including all Thy shared clay FEET MIXED WITH IRON resting upon all dry grounds. GROUNDED! In front of WHO ascending and descending upon all HIS shared Feet!
Today I learned Lex took ayahuasca. Bravo!