So you chose a former Olympic Air hostess, who retired at 42 and is now receiving 1000 Euros per month, owns two houses, one of which she rents out and is clearly having a good time. You chose her to speak about the crisis? I have been working full time since my early twenties and I probably won't get a pension before 67. The previous generations had a party, cannibalizing the future of their children and grandchildren. Now my pay is cut, I have to pay extra taxes or I am let go because some irresponsible people had a party but bailed on the bill. And those idiots, now almost senile, tell us what a good time they had, how many houses they bought and how hard working they were, some of them even reminisce the good times of the dictatorship. It is frustrating to live and work in Greece.
Starship Harpist Olympic Airways was quite an exception thought. Onasis, who founded the company wanted only young top mode style women servicing onboard. And the greek State payed the bill.
You're right. This lady is not at all a sympathetic character, I've no idea why they choose her to demonstrate the hardships of Greece. Many people there are really, truly struggling and barely eating anything at all. This lady does not look even slightly uncomfortable. Epic fail.
Mari Ansaldo the reporter made a good job showing her she is the "dark side of greek" i think people with a brain know that she is not a example for poor greek. She is an example for a pension system handmade by political the reporter say at beginning that he is in a middle class part of athen .she get now 1000 euro pension after cuts the last five years two houses grown not on trees i think onassis had made as she leave with 42 she get the same as work or more and over the years more🇩🇪😇
Rui Tamele did you PLAY attention? Not only did I PLAY attention I PAID attention which would be the correct past tense of pay, unless you think the phrase is PLAY attention. It's not. Additionally I was not rude or insulting to anyone with the exception of the person who put that news piece together. You however did decide to be rude as a result I am pointing out what an asshat you are. Dismissed.
My first love is a greek girl we were going at same class but if school over she leave that is 33 years in past at 1986 but i never forget her she is going from hamburg in germany to munich i have tried the last 4 years to find her to say hello but no way to find her 🇩🇪
I cant thank my great-great grandmother and grandfather for making the journey from Crete to ellis island so many years ago to give their future family a better life. Well, your effort was well worth it and will never be forgotten... At least, not by me. Our Greek family is flourishing and proud, I will never let it die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am from America I think yall need to get a lot together how has the immigration treated you in Northern Europe.... remember every country has its issues. Be understanding no matter where you are from
ok.. so retired at 42.. and 68 years of age, earning 1000 Euros in pension for over 24 years... In an other video, a computer scientist at age 30 in Athens, working 10-12 hrs a day earns 480 Euros and lives with his parents......
Sakthi Bhuvanesh Happy for her, for she is not complaining, and lived beneath her means and has rental income. She seems like a super nice and funny lady.
Sakthi Bhuvanesh that is what she get now after many cuts the last 5 years 19 years she had a very very very big pension become sorry for my broken english i think she has get more than 2000 euro! I have the feeling have she was a little bit ashamed she tell it was the goverment worse and so it is one is lucky and another one has more luck
Because you saw these people who are rich and they made a documentary with making everyone in greece look like them, doesn't mean that we have 400m2 houses, that we retire at 40 and that we take 1000 euro pension. If you want to become greek you will have to work 2100 hours a year (most working hours in EU, third in the world while you will be called lazy. Germans work 1350 hours a year and you take three times more more ). You will have to pay 50% of your income to taxes which you will get nothing in return because all of it goes to repay the interest of the debt while you will be called tax evader because someone else is not paying their taxes, every country has them. You will have to watch your country being destroyed, controlled by banks who don't even care for you but for the interest you will be able to pay.
Freddy The grand what are you even talking about? Real news? This channel doesnt even talk about money creation of the CET or the World Bank. The Journalist used a phrase ''The Germans Loaned you money'' which is completely false . European Central Bank creates money out of thin air and the loans that money to people. So the people get in debt that they can never pay. I suggest you to go watch money creation of the Central European Bank or confessions of an Economic Hitman.
Oooookay Idk what your mad about. Idk what they got wrong but trust me compared to the usual crap I have to deal with in the US AL Jazeera is fucking gold. Like try watching CNN or fox news and then tell me AL Jazeera is bad
Zack Abnet but now you can look it on you tube live stream and connect the tv with your computer so many times i had touched the button and connected falsly with the tv from my neighbor im a newbe on computer and in english . Some things happened in greek are same here in germany our phamacies and bakery are half in the last 5 years we also in struggling minimum wage job the goverment cheats nicely with the numbers of unemployed and many other things like vw diesel skandal in us vw has paid ,in germany and other country in europe not till this day nobody is really arrested or vw has pay a fine, the customer of diesel cars have get a new programm on boardcomputer what in work destroy some parts of the cars and people get in high danger by driving its not all beauty in germany i think they cheat also with crime statistic we never have so much crime have bevor our police had instruction by shoplifting or other crimes no more record to make if people get known how much is it really is they would go on barricade till goverment.and thats all because madame merkel opened the boarder its helps only the rich get richer the down and middleclass gets in competition with the fugitive from syria we have also get a lot of young Palästinenser from lebanon they came with false pass as syria fugitive and they are not gently they rud and rough make crime and drug dealing . in berlin if the police catch some with small portion of drugs they dont get arrested in many.state of germany the same some young can make 50times a crime before they go to jail i started to hate my country to help war fugitive ok but not so much and no control who. we get more problems .in bavaria is different there you get arrest if you have a used dope pipe but there is time going of open door at night in the villages, rurals thats why the governor of bavaria will cut of more asyl people and its ok my opinion
@@OverLordthe1st That was a propaganda video they took people living at their best and they made them look like an average greek while everything here is false
@7 13 but you are ignoring the fact tha he is already working all day for 40 years. And he gives job to 6 people while he is not making money for himself and his family to enjoy while having 2 shops.Peace.
Sander Van Hove. Olympic Airways was an exception. It was founded and owned by Onasis. He wanted only pretty women onboard. After 42 they had no place onboard anymore. But it was not possible to have them all working in ground jobs. The trouble is that Onasis has enough influence to make the Greek State to pay for those women pensions. Other Greek companies had much more normal rules.
How? They joined the EU, That's how.Did their politicians speak with the best economists to see if it would be in their best interest to join the EU? NO they didn't care.Economists here were saying that it would be very bad for the poorer countries.Roufianoi!! Prodotes!!!!
Greece should promote their country more to the Chinese tourist. The Chinese will pump in all the tourist money. The Greek will have improved business and better income.
Chinese people make fast travelling and they spend not much money like other tourist ,in germany chinese people travel two citys in one day i have seen on tv in 10 days as much as possible greek gets a comeback on tourist i belive and i hope the condition for the worker get better 🇩🇪
The bailout was for the creditors, not for Greece. Prior to Greece joining the euro, they had one of the lowest debt to GDP levels in Europe and their pensions were not a problem. The reason countries of southern Europe got into such a debt mess, is mainly due to the design of the common currency union; without a central fiscal economy authority "Federation like the US" controlling and setting a unified euro economy policy and collecting taxes for the union and setting agreed limits of state debt, providing federal support to the states like the US federal government does and a central bank that can issue euro bond and set unified interest rates, you end up with an incomplete union that advantages the stronger economies. The stronger economies get a competitive export advantage with a devalued currency and the weaker economies products became less competitive and their terms of trade worsened over time. At the core of this euro mess, the stronger economies exported deflation to the weaker states, while the weaker economies exported inflation to the north. without a unified federal structure and euro bond, when the crisis hit, there was no federal government there to bail them out with euro treasuries, like the US government did for the state of Nevada after the GFC. A bad design that will end up tearing apart the EU and fueling European divisions and nationalism. WHAT A MESS. STOP BLAMMING THE GREEKS.
Why should people be blamed for early retirement?. People will still pay taxes like VAT, etc. It's the government which obeys some other country and puts people at risk by not repaying their taxes.
How did Greece go wrong? One Socialism. Two you have a government. Every government's failures are rewarded with more power and money thus make success undesirable.
First we didn't have socialism neither do we know, Greece never under socialism, in fact now that a more leftist goverment is in charge economic growth and stability is far better.
@@babyblooddistilleriesinc3131 What is the percentage of people employed or subsidized by the Greek government? Property tax means the government owns the land try and produce and thing without land and as government also claims the people it owns the producers that socialism.
Are you folks noticing any parallels in this film?, because I am. Live on credit, retire early, gimme, gimme, gimme. Millennials beware, you are being sucked into what you want to hear, that you are entitled. Learn from this!.
Please, just please stop believing at this kind of videos. They took people living their best lifes and they made them look like an average greek. Greeks are not retiring at 42 but at 62-67. Greece has been in the 5 most hardworking countries in the world for the past 40 years Greeks work 2050 hours a year Germans work 1350 hours a year yet they take 3 times more than greeks.
the workers in macedonia only get paid less than 200 euros a month , 4 times less than the pension in greece . yet 1000 euros isn't enough in greece . simple go to macedonia for your shopping , its much cheaper .
in australia you probably get 1500-2000 dollars per month from renting a house not 200 euros if you have no clue about a situation plz don't have an opinion you look stupid and naive
GREECE WAS ALWAYS POOR COUNTRY...IT GOT WEALTH FROM 40 YEARS OF EUROPEAN AND AMERICAN MONEY...WHEN THE GERMAN MONEY STOPS GREECE WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH WHAT IT HAS..GRAPES ,OLIVES LITTLE TOURISM,,YOUS DIDNT PAY FOR PENSION ...THATS WHY IS BROKE GOVERNMENT JUST GIVES FOR NOTHING.
THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER IN GREECE,,THEY CUTTING PENSIONS AND SUBSIDES WHICH IS VERY GOOD FOR THE GOVERNMENT DEBT,,PUBLIC SECTOR HAS TO BE PRIVATISED TO HELP MORE IN THE FUTURE,,
So you chose a former Olympic Air hostess, who retired at 42 and is now receiving 1000 Euros per month, owns two houses, one of which she rents out and is clearly having a good time. You chose her to speak about the crisis? I have been working full time since my early twenties and I probably won't get a pension before 67. The previous generations had a party, cannibalizing the future of their children and grandchildren. Now my pay is cut, I have to pay extra taxes or I am let go because some irresponsible people had a party but bailed on the bill. And those idiots, now almost senile, tell us what a good time they had, how many houses they bought and how hard working they were, some of them even reminisce the good times of the dictatorship. It is frustrating to live and work in Greece.
Starship Harpist Olympic Airways was quite an exception thought. Onasis, who founded the company wanted only young top mode style women servicing onboard. And the greek State payed the bill.
You're right. This lady is not at all a sympathetic character, I've no idea why they choose her to demonstrate the hardships of Greece. Many people there are really, truly struggling and barely eating anything at all. This lady does not look even slightly uncomfortable. Epic fail.
Mari Ansaldo the reporter made a good job showing her she is the "dark side of greek" i think people with a brain know that she is not a example for poor greek.
She is an example for a pension system handmade by political the reporter say at beginning that he is in a middle class part of athen .she get now 1000 euro pension after cuts the last five years two houses grown not on trees i think onassis had made as she leave with 42 she get the same as work or more and over the years more🇩🇪😇
@@mariansaldo1 Did you play attention in what she said? Guess what...yes.
Rui Tamele did you PLAY attention? Not only did I PLAY attention I PAID attention which would be the correct past tense of pay, unless you think the phrase is PLAY attention. It's not. Additionally I was not rude or insulting to anyone with the exception of the person who put that news piece together. You however did decide to be rude as a result I am pointing out what an asshat you are. Dismissed.
The Greeks are nice people. I like the baker, the pharmacist, the lady. They have good hearts.
What a beautiful people. I must see Greece!
Gene Dexter. You are welcome.
My first love is a greek girl we were going at same class but if school over she leave that is 33 years in past at 1986 but i never forget her she is going from hamburg in germany to munich i have tried the last 4 years to find her to say hello but no way to find her 🇩🇪
lazy greeks
I cant thank my great-great grandmother and grandfather for making the journey from Crete to ellis island so many years ago to give their future family a better life.
Well, your effort was well worth it and will never be forgotten... At least, not by me.
Our Greek family is flourishing and proud, I will never let it die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only people that make money here in Greece are hotels , clubs and coffee shops ! im greek i live in greece
I am from America I think yall need to get a lot together how has the immigration treated you in Northern Europe.... remember every country has its issues. Be understanding no matter where you are from
ok.. so retired at 42.. and 68 years of age, earning 1000 Euros in pension for over 24 years... In an other video, a computer scientist at age 30 in Athens, working 10-12 hrs a day earns 480 Euros and lives with his parents......
Sakthi Bhuvanesh Happy for her, for she is not complaining, and lived beneath her means and has rental income.
She seems like a super nice and funny lady.
Sakthi Bhuvanesh that is what she get now after many cuts the last 5 years 19 years she had a very very very big pension become sorry for my broken english i think she has get more than 2000 euro! I have the feeling have she was a little bit ashamed she tell it was the goverment worse and so it is one is lucky and another one has more luck
That baker is a sweetheart 💕🇬🇷
Let me tell you how the people in Germany feel. They would be the most happy if they had the money to leave Germany and retire in Greece.
why would i retire in that poor country ? ahahah u are funny thou
Beautiful Monster better than living with nazi's and cold weather.
Because you saw these people who are rich and they made a documentary with making everyone in greece look like them, doesn't mean that we have 400m2 houses, that we retire at 40 and that we take 1000 euro pension.
If you want to become greek you will have to work 2100 hours a year (most working hours in EU, third in the world while you will be called lazy. Germans work 1350 hours a year and you take three times more more ). You will have to pay 50% of your income to taxes which you will get nothing in return because all of it goes to repay the interest of the debt while you will be called tax evader because someone else is not paying their taxes, every country has them. You will have to watch your country being destroyed, controlled by banks who don't even care for you but for the interest you will be able to pay.
I wish the reporter would shut his mouth and let her talk, without always interrupting her.
👍anyone if Sandy 😙reminds you of your retired mom...her enthusiasm, her talk about the credit cards, it reminds me of my mom
real news, I wish I had this channel on my TV
Freddy The grand what are you even talking about? Real news?
This channel doesnt even talk about money creation of the CET or the World Bank. The Journalist used a phrase ''The Germans Loaned you money'' which is completely false . European Central Bank creates money out of thin air and the loans that money to people. So the people get in debt that they can never pay.
I suggest you to go watch money creation of the Central European Bank or confessions of an Economic Hitman.
Oooookay Idk what your mad about.
Idk what they got wrong but trust me compared to the usual crap I have to deal with in the US AL Jazeera is fucking gold. Like try watching CNN or fox news and then tell me AL Jazeera is bad
Zack Abnet but now you can look it on you tube live stream and connect the tv with your computer so many times i had touched the button and connected falsly with the tv from my neighbor im a newbe on computer and in english . Some things happened in greek are same here in germany our phamacies and bakery are half in the last 5 years we also in struggling minimum wage job the goverment cheats nicely with the numbers of unemployed and many other things like vw diesel skandal in us vw has paid ,in germany and other country in europe not till this day nobody is really arrested or vw has pay a fine, the customer of diesel cars have get a new programm on boardcomputer what in work destroy some parts of the cars and people get in high danger by driving its not all beauty in germany i think they cheat also with crime statistic we never have so much crime have bevor our police had instruction by shoplifting or other crimes no more record to make if people get known how much is it really is they would go on barricade till goverment.and thats all because madame merkel opened the boarder its helps only the rich get richer the down and middleclass gets in competition with the fugitive from syria we have also get a lot of young Palästinenser from lebanon they came with false pass as syria fugitive and they are not gently they rud and rough make crime and drug dealing . in berlin if the police catch some with small portion of drugs they dont get arrested in many.state of germany the same some young can make 50times a crime before they go to jail i started to hate my country to help war fugitive ok but not so much and no control who. we get more problems .in bavaria is different there you get arrest if you have a used dope pipe but there is time going of open door at night in the villages, rurals thats why the governor of bavaria will cut of more asyl people and its ok my opinion
A short look from my country now im going to bed its 6 in morning time
@@OverLordthe1st That was a propaganda video they took people living at their best and they made them look like an average greek while everything here is false
Retired at age 42??? Thank the lady for being so honest, burt again retired at age 42?
And the bread-maker was complaining about having to retire between 60-70 years of age. Here in Canada that is the norm.
@7 13 but you are ignoring the fact tha he is already working all day for 40 years. And he gives job to 6 people while he is not making money for himself and his family to enjoy while having 2 shops.Peace.
What made you think I was ignoring that which you say is a fact?! And what is your point anyway, even if that is a fact?!
Sander Van Hove. Olympic Airways was an exception. It was founded and owned by Onasis. He wanted only pretty women onboard. After 42 they had no place onboard anymore. But it was not possible to have them all working in ground jobs. The trouble is that Onasis has enough influence to make the Greek State to pay for those women pensions.
Other Greek companies had much more normal rules.
YES RETIRE 42,,,THIS IS ZORBA LAND OF DREAMS
How? They joined the EU, That's how.Did their politicians speak with the best economists to see if it would be in their best interest to join the EU? NO they didn't care.Economists here were saying that it would be very bad for the poorer countries.Roufianoi!! Prodotes!!!!
We palestinen are with you Greek brothers
I always thought Greece is a very successful and wealthy country because outside Greece, the Greek diaspora is very wealthy.
She speaks the truth that lady in the start retiring at 40s what a joke how can a country be sustainable
For the Greeks it's always the Europeans to blame . The reporter struggles to perceive the Greeks
Sandy got the balls to tell the Truth
Greece should promote their country more to the Chinese tourist. The Chinese will pump in all the tourist money. The Greek will have improved business and better income.
redstar19 The flight from China is very long and quite expensive for chineese tourists.
Chinese people make fast travelling and they spend not much money like other tourist ,in germany chinese people travel two citys in one day i have seen on tv in 10 days as much as possible greek gets a comeback on tourist i belive and i hope the condition for the worker get better 🇩🇪
All tourists are welcome to visit
redstar19 Wow! What a simplistic overnight solution to an extremely-complex problem! Where were you all this while?
The chinese are so wonderfully friendly. Greece needs to dump the EU and join Puntin
1 pharmacy to 1000 people , sounds like its regulated . not free market .
but guess what I'm in love the the Greeks they are lovely people greets from Egypt
THIS IS THE MOST TRUTH SAID, ABOUT THE GREEK PROBLEM,But the Greeks do not see, The truth staring them right in the face,
YOU CAN NOT KILL THE TRUE GREEK SPIRIT!!!!!!!!!
The bailout was for the creditors, not for Greece. Prior to Greece joining the euro, they had one of the lowest debt to GDP levels in Europe and their pensions were not a problem. The reason countries of southern Europe got into such a debt mess, is mainly due to the design of the common currency union; without a central fiscal economy authority "Federation like the US" controlling and setting a unified euro economy policy and collecting taxes for the union and setting agreed limits of state debt, providing federal support to the states like the US federal government does and a central bank that can issue euro bond and set unified interest rates, you end up with an incomplete union that advantages the stronger economies. The stronger economies get a competitive export advantage with a devalued currency and the weaker economies products became less competitive and their terms of trade worsened over time. At the core of this euro mess, the stronger economies exported deflation to the weaker states, while the weaker economies exported inflation to the north. without a unified federal structure and euro bond, when the crisis hit, there was no federal government there to bail them out with euro treasuries, like the US government did for the state of Nevada after the GFC. A bad design that will end up tearing apart the EU and fueling European divisions and nationalism. WHAT A MESS. STOP BLAMMING THE GREEKS.
Why should people be blamed for early retirement?. People will still pay taxes like VAT, etc. It's the government which obeys some other country and puts people at risk by not repaying their taxes.
Greeks don't retire at 42 they retire at 62-67 at least
Sandy is Adorable
OMG it must be bad now in Greece ,because it looks like this woman made a dress out of her Greek flag.
Charles Kerry
😂😂😂
😂
The pharmacist is such a handsome man 😍
He is not greek though .Maybe Egyptian or other Levantine arab
he looks Egyptian
The Greeks should have shown their middle fingers to the IMF, and European Central Banks...just like Iceland did.
We did, but our government didn't agree with that
How did Greece go wrong? One Socialism. Two you have a government. Every government's failures are rewarded with more power and money thus make success undesirable.
First we didn't have socialism neither do we know, Greece never under socialism, in fact now that a more leftist goverment is in charge economic growth and stability is far better.
Socialism? What socialism?
@@babyblooddistilleriesinc3131 LOL! good one :)
@@diavasmamevroxi Compared to what it was or what it could be?
@@babyblooddistilleriesinc3131 What is the percentage of people employed or subsidized by the Greek government? Property tax means the government owns the land try and produce and thing without land and as government also claims the people it owns the producers that socialism.
Phew! That's about $404 billion NZD for some reform...
Are you folks noticing any parallels in this film?, because I am. Live on credit, retire early, gimme, gimme, gimme. Millennials beware, you are being sucked into what you want to hear, that you are entitled. Learn from this!.
Please, just please stop believing at this kind of videos. They took people living their best lifes and they made them look like an average greek. Greeks are not retiring at 42 but at 62-67. Greece has been in the 5 most hardworking countries in the world for the past 40 years
Greeks work 2050 hours a year
Germans work 1350 hours a year yet they take 3 times more than greeks.
the Pharmacist looks very Egyptian
the workers in macedonia only get paid less than 200 euros a month , 4 times less than the pension in greece . yet 1000 euros isn't enough in greece . simple go to macedonia for your shopping , its much cheaper .
afti governo !!!!!
Sorry no offence ... Dimitris is 54 yo but he looks like 60.
even more
TierraSurNow Stress will do that to anyone - yet he still is smiling and kind.
this language is so close to Spain Spanish
I speak Spanish and I didn't understand like they say... ni jota!
she should not be getting a pension if she rents out an apartment..in australia we do an assets test.
in australia you probably get 1500-2000 dollars per month from renting a house not 200 euros if you have no clue about a situation plz don't have an opinion you look stupid and naive
GREECE WAS ALWAYS POOR COUNTRY...IT GOT WEALTH FROM 40 YEARS OF EUROPEAN AND AMERICAN MONEY...WHEN THE GERMAN MONEY STOPS GREECE WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH WHAT IT HAS..GRAPES ,OLIVES LITTLE TOURISM,,YOUS DIDNT PAY FOR PENSION ...THATS WHY IS BROKE GOVERNMENT JUST GIVES FOR NOTHING.
LOOK AT AMERICA ITS FINISHED AND EUROPE.THE WORK WENT TO ASIA 30 YEARS AGO,..WHEN MONEY STOPS,,,ITS CALLED GLOBAL COLLAPSE.
THE PENSIONS WILL STOP IN THE WORLD..THEN YOU WILL SE HUNGER...DONT PUT ON UTUBE IF YOU DONT WANT OPINION...
George Kafantaris why caps and you make no sense your English are worst than mine and you live in Australia
GERMANY SHOULD CUT EVERYTHING AND BRING THEM BACK TO REALITY,,TOO MUCH FREE BONUSES
THE HOUSES CAN BE REPOSED TO HELP THE HOMELESS,,EVERYTHING CAN HELP,,
SANDY GETS PENSION AND HAS RENTAL PROPERTY,,,WE DONT GET THAT IN THE WEST,,,SHOULD DO ASSETS TEST,,SHE HAS TOO MUCH MONEY FOR YHE PENSION
THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER IN GREECE,,THEY CUTTING PENSIONS AND SUBSIDES WHICH IS VERY GOOD FOR THE GOVERNMENT DEBT,,PUBLIC SECTOR HAS TO BE PRIVATISED TO HELP MORE IN THE FUTURE,,
things are great yes they are cutting pensions fantasic bless!
fantastic,,thats great.,praise the lord
ZITO...TO TAMIO ANERGIAS
zito papandreou is back
imf gone..means gearing up for drachma..
THE BAKER IN SHOP IS SPOILED TOO,,,,,,,THE PARTY IS OVER
THE MORE THEY CUT,,,THE BETTER THINGS WILL GET,,,MAYBE THEY SHOULD SELL THE ACROPOLIS AND MONASTIRAKI,,THIS MONEY CAN PAY FOR DEBT,,,
Your an idiot
you deserve what you get.....opa,opa
erdogan is coming,
PLENTY MONEY UNDER MATRESS,,,SHOULD DO BAIL IN TO HELP GOVERNMENT,,
charles kerry,.amazing zorba land hasnt collapsed,,you can thank germany,,,opa,opa