FLAT SPIN! Headed Out to Sea in an F-5 | Mover Clips
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Shoes tells the story of his scariest moment in a fighter when he ended up in a flat spin in an F-5. This is a clip from my two hour live interview with Shoes - former F-14 TOPGUN Instructor Pilot who also flew the F-5, A-4, 727, and MD-11. He was one of the pilots in the move THE FINAL COUNTDOWN. Watch the full interview: • Interview with Alan "S...
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Nickle in the grass for Hawk. He was a good man- father, son, warrior. Rest easy Captain.
This interview is pure gold
I gotta carve out some time to watch/listen to the whole interview! These stories are awesome and the storytelling is outstanding!
same here
it is well worth the time.
“Try to get it to do that....” they said, “it CANT HURT YOU” they said.....
They said hurt not scare.
"Inverted flat spin" "but it was great!" lol.
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Great interview mover. Thanks for breaking it down in parts, although I have seen full interview it was great one.
Man! Shoes has some amazing stories 👏
Did they ever add Full Rudder to the bold face??!!
Greg Dishart had a near identical experience, and, following his recovery, the Navy rewrotetheir spin recovery procedures.
Shoes is such a good story teller...the interviewer is okay 😜. Great stuff Mover!
I thought he was going to say someone recorded his spin years prior and he was about to get in trouble...
But he says his skipper did the exact same thing (which could have been prevented if his safety culture permitted him to tell his story)
Hopefully their safety culture changes or has changed and pilots don't have to worry about getting into trouble when reporting such a vital safety report as this would have been...damn....hope no one loses their life from this, 'cowboy/top gun' mentality...
Cool story though, another one on the books for MoOoOoOo-ver hahaha
A lot has changed in 35 years.
He mentions before on the gear story better to die than look bad mentality. These were the pre politically correct work-hard play-hard hard core warriors.
Sounds like alot more black box, etc now. Had a buddy in the Marine who was enlisted and got a commission and went jets and said everything very closely monitored and quite strict.
Great story from Shoes
Absolutely LOVE these stories!
The Final Countdown as some awesome footage of the F-14 and it was awesome to see this interview. My friends and I do the same if someone wrecks a patrol car...you will end up getting it documented in a diorama that will sit in the squad room for all to see and never forget.
Just subscribed 👍 another good aircrew channel is aircrew interview with pilots and crew from around the world being interviewed
Love these stories CW.
Quote, "I had a lot more time to think about it (comparison to his skipper in the same spin situation but at a 'lot' lower altitude)" If I got this right, he had a mere four seconds more than his skipper when he saved his aircraft. Most people can't decide how much TP they need in that time after a good dump. I honestly think that is a fair comparison, because it's as close as to understanding how fast the thinking of a fighter pilot must be, well... in a dump situation so to speak.
Still, it's a very entertaining story for everyone.
Love these clips.
Sadly this behavior doesnt seem to be modeled in DCS.
Dame! I was about to go try that! On the subject (I guess), I found out the hard way that "Mach-Tuck" is modelled in the Hornet 😑
“I was inverted”
Like Elon said...” We got the crater in JUST THE RIGHTPLACE...”
Wonder if a radar operator saw that.
DO: "Go have fun, it can’t hurt you"
Literally anyone who has ever flown an airplane: "That is emphatically not true."
The overarching lesson of every pilot training program is to show you every possible way the aircraft can and will hurt you. But anyway good luck inducing that inverted flat spin!
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Only made it out of 1 spin in a f18 between maybe 20 attempts in thr f14 and f18 in the sims
So glad you are posting these bite size stories from the long interview, Looking forward to the next one.
F-5 , T-38, mig-28. Good times.
I need the rest of Shoe's scary stories. I'll dedicate all night to it. More intercepts and stories from Fighting 84, too. Love his sense of humor.
haha whenever i see the headed out to sea line i think of an f14 spinning like a ninja star into the pacific like Poseidon hurled it since the line makes no fucking sense.
The hits just keep on coming! Great, interesting stories.
I wish pops was around to tell when a flap FELL OFF on takeoff run in an A-4 in HaMS-24 outa Kaneohe and managed not to eject on the runway
Another great story!! Thank you Mover & Shoes!!
Good story! Conclusion... fly the plane till the plane won't fly.
So flaps up, stick back and opposite rudder.
Even when inverted?
@@OfficialJoeKingOne That pilot was inverted when he executed that to exit inverted spin I believe.
"I'm in a flat spin headed out to sea!"
HAHAHAHAHA! Yes!
3:08
It happened the me the same altought it was on a training flight in a Bücker Jungmann. FIrst Immelman, not enough speed on top, then I saw the outdor pool field with thousend of people enjoying their sun & bath turning and turning in my center vision, head up in the inverted. I tought, NOT GOOD if I'm gonna crash inverted in the public below. The airplane was happy as well, falling like a leaf. Then my instructor recovered and said to me : DON'T DO THAT EVER AGAIN lol.
"You guys have no mercy!"
Perfect summary of military humor. We'll tear you apart, talk trash, and beat on you until you're hurting, laughing about it all the way...but even God can't help the guy on the outside that gives you a sideways glance.
Am i early on the 5th aviation video today? yes I am
Shoes was a great interview
How do you flat spin a symmetrical thrust aircraft?
Hi mover! Love ur work
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I really enjoyed that one ! 😎👍
I remember Hall quoting a Navy officer saying the Navy/Top Gun F-5s had spin needles in them and the Air Force F-5s didn't. They could recover the Navy F-5s but without a spin indicator in their F-5s the USAF guys were SOL. (p. 74 of the George Hall Top Gun book, btw. Very good photography in it and unexpectedly informative about naval aviation history.)
The book also mentioned the fact there was some preference for the F-20 to replace the F-5 as the main adversary plane before the F-16N was basically forced on them. There really wasn't a choice. The F-20 was dead by mid-1985.
I'm sure the cleaning crew was happy that the plane landed in the drink.
I learned something about the F-5 today. Be interesting to learn more about that anomaly
This channel is growing like crazy! See ya at one mil, mover!
The fishtank part was hilarious.
I'm in a flat spin headin to sea!
Great Story.
@4:12 If he had told the story to the rest of the guys, a year later with that knowledge, could the skipper have been able to recover? Did squadron/service/pilot culture contribute to this incident?
Yeah, it's sort of interesting - he was sent out with the suggestion to try it, and in the moment he apparently thought, “I guess I’m going to be a test pilot today,” yet he didn’t come back and say, “Hey, I gave it a shot, you really can’t recover without the rudder, eh? Should put that in bold.”
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honestly, i always thought that “flat spin” was some sort of Hollywood cinematic creation to spice up the story line in Top Gun
Nope, tomcat, especially the early ones, where known for it.
The last three countries bull fighting is still practiced: Spain, Mexico...and...France. Some trivia. By the way, I had no idea F-5s could operate over water. 😉 I guess they would frown on a splash down on a fam flight. Excellent story. Good thing Joker didn't see you break the hard-deck hahaha sorry can't help myself.
"We flew right through his jetwash..."
Top Gun.. Maverick and Goose😄