Depends on the refs lmao. If they are healthy for the most part they should have a good shot. Can the wrs make enough plays? I don't think the chargers will control that game with the run alone.
Man bengals sound like the chargers Herbert’s whole career… mvp numbers but the coaching sucks and defense sucks … guess we’re finally “lucky” … meanwhile we don’t have 2 #1 wr’s like burrow 💁♂️
@@allsense8703gtfoh less help and does more?? Did you listen to them Joe is running for his life was hit 14 times last night Herbert back there doing his taxes has the way better defense and coach and running game,I've never hated on Herbert because I think he was a good qb and Staley was awful but yall delusional if you think he has less help
Love how in the past it was all on Herbert, but for Burrow it's a team thing. I guess having a good defense matters and now the Chargers have one. Despite some horrible ref calls Charger persevered. BTFU!
Luck is the only reason the bengals made a comeback. 3rd and 8 in the red zone and Henley knocks the ball down and it bounces off Higgins thigh back up into his arms and they convert then score. Next drive Joe throws a pick and they overturn it on a bs roughing the passer. Next drive Herbert is going to the ground and a knee hits the ball just perfect and fumbles into waiting bengals player etc etc etc. Joe is a stud tho
Derrrr ok🤣 And Mike Hilton dropped a pick six and the refs didn’t call a clear intentional grounding on Herbert that should have been a 10 second run off and no field goal at the half. Keep up the excuses for nearly losing to the worst D in the league 🤣
@ you would be mad about going to the AFC championship game 2 out of the last 4 years? What did Herbert do?😂 Other than complete less than 50% of his passes last night against an abysmal pass defense?🤣🤡
@@joshrose2488 here let me share what so many Herbert and LAC haters love to point out: The stat of the game that matters, 27-34. Oh btw, Burrow 0 -- Herbert 2! 🤡
Now that Herbert has beat Burrow again with less offensive weapons people want to give Burrow all the same "excuses" that they claim we gave Herbert. No Burrow and Herbert 2020 draft class QBs are top 5 QBs this season. And every season. Herberts talent is only tied with by Josh Allen. Herberts accuracy is only beat by Burrow, the one thing Herbert lacks that the top guys have and that Mahomes has more than anyone else is creativity. Herbert is smart, has insane arm talent, athletic, accurate, and makes great decisions. He just doesnt create on the level of Mahomes or Allen or Burrow or Lamar. But those names including Herbert are the best 5 QBs in this league and its very clear.
Since when were offensive weapons the entire team? Herbert has a great defence and Burrow has the worst defence in the league. Herbert has a great coach and Burrow has a terrible coach. Herbert has a good o-line and Burrow gets pressured nearly every single snap. Casual football knowledge.
@@jaxonschryer5515 He's not talking about wins though. Burrows on field performances aren't being affected by his defense lol, if anything (like with Herbert his first 4 years) having a bad D is forcing Burrow to make more splash plays and throw the ball even more than he normally would. People who equate wins with QBs are idiots, but now that Herbert has no true weapons and is still slaughtering teams, he's been tested in a way that Joe Burrow hasn't. Burrow has had 2 amazing receivers for his whole career.
@@ihpron Herbert spent his first 4 years coached by a guy who is no longer a HC, with several OCs. Hard to say he's amazing because of caching when he was amazing under a worse HC than the Bengals have right now.
Anybody that thinks Herbert isn't good doesn't know football. Usually the delusional Dolphins fans were leading the charge on that, but they're quiet now. And the other people that hate on Herbert like Acho are black. For some reason a lot of black people want to hate on Herbert for some reason. If Herbert was black they would love him.
I love how this will be the worst Chargers team (roster wise) under Harbaugh. Next season they have a ton of money to play around with and compensatory draft picks thanks to Joe Hortiz our incredible GM.
It's a great time to be an LAC fan. You are so correct, this team is going to be a juggernaut the next few years. The funny thing is LVR took Telesco as their GM. They will be in cap hell very soon. I will give some credit to Telesco for picking out talent in the draft, but his managerial skills to keep and trade players is totally lacking.
When herbert was losing games like this all the blame was on herbert for not doing more if hes "so good" he should make the plays that win. Seems like burrow choked away the last 4 drives
Burrow literally took his kicker within field goal distance twice. You want this guy to kick too? Give credit where it’s due. Herbert played a hella of a game too but he played a terrible 2nd half.
@ exactly what chargers fans were saying last few seasons. Want Hebert to do it all himself and play defence too? No one listened. Now it’s happening to Burrow and you all want us to cry about it and feel sorry for him.
The two most gifted Quarterbacks in the NFL are Josh Allen and Justin Herbert. Strongest arms with the ability to throw any pass possible along with excellent escape ability.
So when chargers lose idk how many 1 score games the last 3 years with Justin balling out we are “chargering” but when the bengals do it, it’s because they’re unlucky makes perfect since lol
"chargers are just better than the bengals..." im sorry, who on the chargers offense is "scary?" outside of herbert? Imagine if Herbert had Chase and Higgins.... this wouldn't even be a debate.
also.... who on the chargers defense scares people? mack didn't play.... who else do they have thats elite??? they're playing with a ton of first and second years...
@@salromeri192 Derwin James is elite, Bosa is elite when healthy (hardly ever healthy), and Tuli has emerged as one of the best young edge players in the league. Everyone else on defense play's their role well but they aren't a super scary defense, they just don't allow many over the top plays. Bend dont break mentallity
@@salromeri192Bosa is getting healthy Tuli has 7 sacks, tied for 8th in league Dayian Henly is tied for 7th most tackles in nfl for LB. Ask Travis Kelce if he has a healthy fear of Derwin James... Offense.... Jk Dobbins was clutch, running over people to win it. McConkey has more receiving yards than Malik... I can keep going. You don't really seem like one who argued with facts and data, just lazy narratives from hacks. Maybe sit this one out and go spend some time at home... Like Burrow will be this off-season. 👍
I already heard an “expert” say when talking about the ravens vs chargers “Look at who the Chargers have played. They haven’t played an explosive offense like the Ravens.” This video was made a day after Chargers vs Bengals.
Herbert doesn’t have Ja’ marr Chase and Tee Higgins. He’s got 3 receivers on rookie contracts and his WR2 is freaking Quentin Johnston! His TE1 is Will Dissly! What do they say about Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire, backwards and in high heels?
Dissley is literally a blocking specialist and he's Herberts best pass catching TE and arguably go to guy 🤣🤣. Burrow has Jamar Chase and Higgins also two TEs that are better pass catchers than Dissley. Don't forget Chase brown also a better pass catching rb than what the Chargers have.
@@lacken-skill7999 I’m glad someone got the reference! I almost went with Harrison Bergeron, but then i thought the Ginger and Fred was more recognizable 😂⚡️
Thank you acknowledging that Herbert is an elite QB. As a charger fan, we all knew this and had his back for years. Also, Herbert is a better than Allen. How? He does not turn the ball over and throw stupid picks. He is super smart.
The game grades tell it all. 3 of the top player grades for the Chargers were OL men. That means they are protecting and run blocking well. The Bengals had all “skill” positions with high grades.
Great QBs elevate WRs, not rely on them. If Burrow can't throw to superstars he's suddenly pedestrian. The Chargers don't just have a "better football team," they have a QB who makes his offense better.
2nd round draft pick Ladd McConkey trails only Brian Thomas Jr. in receiving yards among all rookie wide receivers. His receiving yards per game of 61.5 is third behind Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas Jr. McConkey's a 2nd round draft pick! Catching balls from QB Justin Herbert. Chargers got two 1st rounders, Alt and McConkey.
Mahomes is not in the tier of his own. The Chiefs are. Mahomes has been taking advantage of the extra protection that is given to the quarterback with his stupid "let me pump fake my way to a first because if anyone touches me theyll get flagged" and the league has taken notice. Thats why his numbers aren't the same this year. The team as a whole, however, is in a tier of their own. Mike Tomlin is the best coach in the league IMO after what he's done this year with his roster but Andy Reid is right up there with him. Im just happy the chargers funally got a coach that can be even considered in that same conversation. These next few years of Ried Vs Harbaugh are gonna be so fun
Look at the attitude difference in the Bengals players and the chargers players.The Bengals are a me team(the WR's), and the chargers are a me team.True teams win.Not individuals.
@@JohnLee-ud2gmCincinnati still hasn’t paid Chase. Playing on a rookie deal. They are cheap. Still no official GM. I hope Burrow and Chase leave the BS Bengals.
Finally cbs football talking trash about Herbert and the chargers they straight up said some dumb shit after we won that game last night 😂 haters in the comments talking trash
That was the Chargers year, if any, that they should have won the superbowl. That Niners team wasn't the peak Niners. They were very beatable. Bet money the Chargers are ready for cold weather as long as Harbaugh is the coach.
Hilarious. That's what they said about Herbert when he was setting records with the worst defense and loosing. How things change. Future looks bright! BTFU!
@@aaronkim3762 Sadly, that was Philip Rivers final decade with the Chargers. Low ranking offensive lines and defensive play plus historically bad special teams. And yet he squeezed a couple playoff appearances. Herbert is even more capable and has one playoff appearance on an undeserving team. With the base created by the new Harbaugh Regime, the future is bright! Buy shades Charger fans!
Bullshit burrow played twice as good but our defense as par for the course shitted the bed again and let us lose again fire lou anarumo immediately and fire zac taylor time to start over
Burrow did not play twice as good as Herbert. You are counting the 2nd half twice and dismissing the 1st half. Doesn't work that way. The Bebgals have entered the Chargers Brandon Staley era. Putting it all on a QB and a couple WRs to do everything to win. Now you understand what it's like to have an MVP caliber QB but still suffer losses.
Can the Chargers get over the hump vs KC to win this division?
Depends on the refs lmao. If they are healthy for the most part they should have a good shot. Can the wrs make enough plays? I don't think the chargers will control that game with the run alone.
We need help but hell yea.. if we were healthy in the first meeting its a wrap
@@ProFootballFocus there’s no way the league allows that to happen.
Depends on the refs honestly
Yes! ⚡️KC best be standing the heck by for what’s coming.
Man bengals sound like the chargers Herbert’s whole career… mvp numbers but the coaching sucks and defense sucks … guess we’re finally “lucky” … meanwhile we don’t have 2 #1 wr’s like burrow 💁♂️
Herbert does more with less help
say it louder for all the lazy casuals.
@@salromeri192 exactly
Exactly @@allsense8703
@@allsense8703gtfoh less help and does more?? Did you listen to them Joe is running for his life was hit 14 times last night Herbert back there doing his taxes has the way better defense and coach and running game,I've never hated on Herbert because I think he was a good qb and Staley was awful but yall delusional if you think he has less help
Yet chargers don’t get credit cuz all the talk about is still the bengals
This whole conversation was about the chargers lol did you watch it
@andregriffin1203 Saw a recap of the game, and all they talked about was Burrow and his WR'S
Chargers, have a better record than three of the division leaders right now.
Quit crying 😢
He starts talking all about the chargers right before 9 minutes lol. Finish the video
Love how in the past it was all on Herbert, but for Burrow it's a team thing. I guess having a good defense matters and now the Chargers have one. Despite some horrible ref calls Charger persevered. BTFU!
Exactly mate. Funny how the tables have turned yet it’s now Burrows team that’s letting him down not his talent 😂
It will always be like that, it’s always been. I’ve finally accepted it.
There are people still calling Herbert mid because all they look at is production
Acting like Herbert ever won a playoff game lmfao
@artcproduction acting like Herbert hasn't had it worse since entering the league in basically every category
Luck is the only reason the bengals made a comeback. 3rd and 8 in the red zone and Henley knocks the ball down and it bounces off Higgins thigh back up into his arms and they convert then score. Next drive Joe throws a pick and they overturn it on a bs roughing the passer. Next drive Herbert is going to the ground and a knee hits the ball just perfect and fumbles into waiting bengals player etc etc etc. Joe is a stud tho
On the first Bengals TD drive, the catch on the left sideline hit the ground. Harbaugh didn't challenge it.
Derrrr ok🤣 And Mike Hilton dropped a pick six and the refs didn’t call a clear intentional grounding on Herbert that should have been a 10 second run off and no field goal at the half. Keep up the excuses for nearly losing to the worst D in the league 🤣
@joshrose2488 I would be upset too if I was a Bengals fan.I'm too kind to polite to say why.Herbert beats Burrow yet again.🤣🤣
@ you would be mad about going to the AFC championship game 2 out of the last 4 years? What did Herbert do?😂 Other than complete less than 50% of his passes last night against an abysmal pass defense?🤣🤡
@@joshrose2488 here let me share what so many Herbert and LAC haters love to point out: The stat of the game that matters, 27-34. Oh btw, Burrow 0 -- Herbert 2! 🤡
Now that Herbert has beat Burrow again with less offensive weapons people want to give Burrow all the same "excuses" that they claim we gave Herbert. No Burrow and Herbert 2020 draft class QBs are top 5 QBs this season. And every season. Herberts talent is only tied with by Josh Allen. Herberts accuracy is only beat by Burrow, the one thing Herbert lacks that the top guys have and that Mahomes has more than anyone else is creativity. Herbert is smart, has insane arm talent, athletic, accurate, and makes great decisions. He just doesnt create on the level of Mahomes or Allen or Burrow or Lamar. But those names including Herbert are the best 5 QBs in this league and its very clear.
Since when were offensive weapons the entire team? Herbert has a great defence and Burrow has the worst defence in the league. Herbert has a great coach and Burrow has a terrible coach. Herbert has a good o-line and Burrow gets pressured nearly every single snap. Casual football knowledge.
@@jaxonschryer5515also coaching. Harbaugh is a winner and wins everywhere he goes, but they’ll ignore that too. Shit is crazy lol
@@jaxonschryer5515 He's not talking about wins though. Burrows on field performances aren't being affected by his defense lol, if anything (like with Herbert his first 4 years) having a bad D is forcing Burrow to make more splash plays and throw the ball even more than he normally would. People who equate wins with QBs are idiots, but now that Herbert has no true weapons and is still slaughtering teams, he's been tested in a way that Joe Burrow hasn't. Burrow has had 2 amazing receivers for his whole career.
@@ihpron Herbert spent his first 4 years coached by a guy who is no longer a HC, with several OCs. Hard to say he's amazing because of caching when he was amazing under a worse HC than the Bengals have right now.
Anybody that thinks Herbert isn't good doesn't know football. Usually the delusional Dolphins fans were leading the charge on that, but they're quiet now. And the other people that hate on Herbert like Acho are black. For some reason a lot of black people want to hate on Herbert for some reason. If Herbert was black they would love him.
I love how this will be the worst Chargers team (roster wise) under Harbaugh. Next season they have a ton of money to play around with and compensatory draft picks thanks to Joe Hortiz our incredible GM.
It's a great time to be an LAC fan. You are so correct, this team is going to be a juggernaut the next few years. The funny thing is LVR took Telesco as their GM. They will be in cap hell very soon. I will give some credit to Telesco for picking out talent in the draft, but his managerial skills to keep and trade players is totally lacking.
When herbert was losing games like this all the blame was on herbert for not doing more if hes "so good" he should make the plays that win. Seems like burrow choked away the last 4 drives
Burrow literally took his kicker within field goal distance twice. You want this guy to kick too?
Give credit where it’s due. Herbert played a hella of a game too but he played a terrible 2nd half.
@ exactly what chargers fans were saying last few seasons. Want Hebert to do it all himself and play defence too? No one listened. Now it’s happening to Burrow and you all want us to cry about it and feel sorry for him.
The two most gifted Quarterbacks in the NFL are Josh Allen and Justin Herbert. Strongest arms with the ability to throw any pass possible along with excellent escape ability.
I actually always think this
True. Herbert more consistent as a passer and Allen a bit more dynamic as a runner.
@@joshhughart289 absolutely. Herbert's the best pure passer in the league. ⚡️👑
You're in my head,man. Lol.😂😂
They are the ideal "Build a QB in a lab" candidates
So when chargers lose idk how many 1 score games the last 3 years with Justin balling out we are “chargering” but when the bengals do it, it’s because they’re unlucky makes perfect since lol
Werent you guys saying the bengals were going to win with the weapons they had? And now they dont have enough and theyre unlucky? Screw off.
"chargers are just better than the bengals..." im sorry, who on the chargers offense is "scary?" outside of herbert? Imagine if Herbert had Chase and Higgins.... this wouldn't even be a debate.
also.... who on the chargers defense scares people? mack didn't play.... who else do they have thats elite??? they're playing with a ton of first and second years...
@@salromeri192 Derwin James is elite, Bosa is elite when healthy (hardly ever healthy), and Tuli has emerged as one of the best young edge players in the league. Everyone else on defense play's their role well but they aren't a super scary defense, they just don't allow many over the top plays. Bend dont break mentallity
Khalil Mack has been Elite his whole career. @@chaneystcgstore4692
@@salromeri192Bosa is getting healthy
Tuli has 7 sacks, tied for 8th in league
Dayian Henly is tied for 7th most tackles in nfl for LB.
Ask Travis Kelce if he has a healthy fear of Derwin James...
Offense.... Jk Dobbins was clutch, running over people to win it.
McConkey has more receiving yards than Malik...
I can keep going. You don't really seem like one who argued with facts and data, just lazy narratives from hacks. Maybe sit this one out and go spend some time at home... Like Burrow will be this off-season. 👍
@@chaneystcgstore4692i think the chargers have the best 22 starters in the league.
“They haven’t beaten any good offenses” now that they did… They about to move the goalpost
I already heard an “expert” say when talking about the ravens vs chargers “Look at who the Chargers have played. They haven’t played an explosive offense like the Ravens.” This video was made a day after Chargers vs Bengals.
@ 😂 like clockwork
Herbert doesn’t have Ja’ marr Chase and Tee Higgins. He’s got 3 receivers on rookie contracts and his WR2 is freaking Quentin Johnston! His TE1 is Will Dissly! What do they say about Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire, backwards and in high heels?
Dissley is literally a blocking specialist and he's Herberts best pass catching TE and arguably go to guy 🤣🤣. Burrow has Jamar Chase and Higgins also two TEs that are better pass catchers than Dissley. Don't forget Chase brown also a better pass catching rb than what the Chargers have.
@ we literally don’t have a pass catching RB.
😂 the Ginger Rogers and Fred thing got me
@@lacken-skill7999 I’m glad someone got the reference! I almost went with Harrison Bergeron, but then i thought the Ginger and Fred was more recognizable 😂⚡️
So the bengals are the chargers of Xmas past.
Great pod guys!
thank you!
@ProFootballFocus You guys are the only place Herbert gets his due respect. THANKS!
Trevor gets it. One of my fav "national media" guys (possibly the *only* national media NFL guy I can stand).
Nobody ever gave the chargers a free pass in the past. Bengals lost because they're an inferior team this season
Thank you acknowledging that Herbert is an elite QB.
As a charger fan, we all knew this and had his back for years.
Also, Herbert is a better than Allen. How? He does not turn the ball over and throw stupid picks. He is super smart.
The game grades tell it all. 3 of the top player grades for the Chargers were OL men. That means they are protecting and run blocking well. The Bengals had all “skill” positions with high grades.
Great QBs elevate WRs, not rely on them. If Burrow can't throw to superstars he's suddenly pedestrian.
The Chargers don't just have a "better football team," they have a QB who makes his offense better.
Beasts are not lucky. They're unstoppable.
BACK IN 80'S AND 90'S SPORT JOURNALIST WOULD HAVE SAID THE CHARGERS LET THEM BACK IN
2nd round draft pick Ladd McConkey trails only Brian Thomas Jr. in receiving yards among all rookie wide receivers. His receiving yards per game of 61.5 is third behind Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas Jr. McConkey's a 2nd round draft pick! Catching balls from QB Justin Herbert. Chargers got two 1st rounders, Alt and McConkey.
Chargers got a steal in Ladd. It’ll be exciting!
Actually, Trevor, all those QBs that you said are in tier 2, are actually in the same tier as mahomes. Not sure how anyone can claim otherwise.
Mahomes is not in the tier of his own. The Chiefs are. Mahomes has been taking advantage of the extra protection that is given to the quarterback with his stupid "let me pump fake my way to a first because if anyone touches me theyll get flagged" and the league has taken notice. Thats why his numbers aren't the same this year.
The team as a whole, however, is in a tier of their own. Mike Tomlin is the best coach in the league IMO after what he's done this year with his roster but Andy Reid is right up there with him.
Im just happy the chargers funally got a coach that can be even considered in that same conversation. These next few years of Ried Vs Harbaugh are gonna be so fun
That’s Cincinnati’s front offices fault for being the cheapest organization in sports. Now they don’t have a defense.
Look at the attitude difference in the Bengals players and the chargers players.The Bengals are a me team(the WR's), and the chargers are a me team.True teams win.Not individuals.
@@JohnLee-ud2gmCincinnati still hasn’t paid Chase. Playing on a rookie deal. They are cheap. Still no official GM. I hope Burrow and Chase leave the BS Bengals.
Can we at least admit Burrow is the best pure pocket QB in the league? No other QB could do what Burrow is doing with the trash around him.
The Los Angeles Chargers have fallen short (ONE SCORE LOSSES) 35 times between October 30, 2020 and October 30, 2024.
Cincinnati look like old chargers. Good QB high end skill players. Kickers that miss big kicks. A Questionable head coach. Chargering = Bengaling.
Bengals will get a high draft pick next year and they can re-vamp. Meanwhile, keep it up Chargers!!
Let’s Understand, KC Plays The Same Teams We Play
Finally cbs football talking trash about Herbert and the chargers they straight up said some dumb shit after we won that game last night 😂 haters in the comments talking trash
Trev, please, for the love of God, pronounce Slater's name correctly. It's "Rashawn" not "Rayshawn". Pronounced Rah-shawn not Rae-shawn.
The bengals are the new chargers…they are bengaling
Bungling Bengals
Bengalsssssss! Yes!
Go to Burrows house and watch the playoffs with him.🤣🤣
Not the Ice Bowl.
That was the Chargers year, if any, that they should have won the superbowl. That Niners team wasn't the peak Niners. They were very beatable. Bet money the Chargers are ready for cold weather as long as Harbaugh is the coach.
CHARGERS DID NOT PLAY THE GIANTS... WHAT ARE YOU GUYS ON ABOUT
Burrow did nothing for half the game, or in the 4th q. 1 nice quarter. Jamarcus russell much??
⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
No Josh Newton, the Chargers score 50.
Joe burrow is just not winner. Until he learns how to win close games he’ll never be elite
Hilarious. That's what they said about Herbert when he was setting records with the worst defense and loosing. How things change. Future looks bright! BTFU!
@ 😂😂exactly 😂😂.
@@aaronkim3762 Sadly, that was Philip Rivers final decade with the Chargers. Low ranking offensive lines and defensive play plus historically bad special teams. And yet he squeezed a couple playoff appearances. Herbert is even more capable and has one playoff appearance on an undeserving team. With the base created by the new Harbaugh Regime, the future is bright! Buy shades Charger fans!
Love that hint of sarcasm in there! Hahaha!
Where is that fool Sam Acho with his, "Herbert is a social media QB" tomfoolery.
There is not luck in the game of football u win and loose simple
QBS don't play QBs they play defenses. He out played the defense not burrow. Are they on the field at the same time no goes for any QB. Dumb shit
Herbert said something like that in his post game interview
I'm sorry, those ratings are garbage. GARBAGE.
at min 10:54 like the dramatic pause lol ! 👏👏👏
LAC 🦾⚡⚡⚡
Bullshit burrow played twice as good but our defense as par for the course shitted the bed again and let us lose again fire lou anarumo immediately and fire zac taylor time to start over
Burrow would be Hot Garbage if his weapons were Ladd, QJ & Dissly
that's exactly what herbert had the last 4 years but all you guys said was "he can't get it done it's his fault"
Burrow did not play twice as good as Herbert. You are counting the 2nd half twice and dismissing the 1st half. Doesn't work that way.
The Bebgals have entered the Chargers Brandon Staley era. Putting it all on a QB and a couple WRs to do everything to win. Now you understand what it's like to have an MVP caliber QB but still suffer losses.
Almost like Burrow been overrated the last 4 seasons.... he is supposed to elevate the.... Herbert was called worse over it.
The worm has turned !!!!
It’s Rashawn not Rae-shawn..