@@chukwumakennedy5014why would you play him if he is not good enough? Cant control the ball properly and his passing and focus vs morecambe was shambles
He's justified. He has played more than well enough to justify more starts. Even as CB. A player has to protect his own interests. Otherwise he'll rot on the bench and be sold in a season or two by Chelsea anyway, and you fans won't even blink.
I can empathize with him wanting more playing time, although him pushing for a move in my opinion is very disrespectful to the club (a top PL club at that) who gave him an opportunity and see him a part of their plans
@atxmu never said he owed anyone anything, just that it's disrespectful to the club, and when a massive team gives you an opportunity others would die for and you do this. I'd say it's pretty disrespectful and speaks volumes about a player
U guys are seeing this from different perspective,when a player is pushing to leave a massive football club like Chelsea ✅it shows confidence, if he wants to play at CB he will be the first choice. Have u watched him play for Portugal at CB?
Chelsea is a much bigger shop window than FC Basel. It was a smart move even if he wasn't starting many games as it's far more likely the top-level scouts would see him perform. And it appears to have worked. His valuation is double what it was, and he's now getting call-ups to the senior national team. I'd be sorry to see him goo because I believe he will be a quality player, but he really isn't in our long-term plans atm -- though perhaps he could be getting more minutes at CB given the injuries.
Everyone saying 'he deserves minutes' have a very short term memory - Maresca denied him a start because of his attitude being bad having turned up late to a team meeting. Where is this supportive & energy for Chilly?
I really love the “idea” of veiga. In theory he’s a GREAT signing. He’s raw though. Makes rash decisions and tackles. Do I want him to leave? Hell no. When you watch him you see flashes of brilliance at times. He just needs development. The thing that pisses me off about all this is him saying he wants to play at CB. He never said that even when the club asked him. He basically said he didn’t care where he played. Now all of a sudden you want to be a CB? If you want to leave then kick rocks but they’ll have to cough up at least 20 mil plus add ons.
My feeling is Renato came to Chelsea expecting it to be a real step up and that he would need time to adjust and raise his game. What's happened is he has looked very comfortable and has found himself getting in to the Portugal team as a CB. I wouldn't be surprised if he has been told by the national team that he has a chance to lock down that spot of he can get more game time and experience as a CB. Double our money in 6 months and insert a sell on clause in case he really explodes and wish him all the best 👍
@@Seanself363no, if people pay attention without blue tinted glasses it's been literally every game. I've been telling people from day dot he's too raw. Makes silly decisions. Always messes around with the ball at the back. If we make a profit of even a million it's fantastic business. Go watch his games back and pay objective attention
Veiga must have known what positions we wanted him to Play when we signed him…. Weird if he wants to go already and a red flag for me that we have a squad that is not happy
I have a feeling that some of these players may possibly be doing a 1000 IQ move… join Chels, put themselves on the MainStage, if things don’t go well they will push for a move to a top level club…. Just a thought
All Chelsea players are talented and have a price, and Chelsea is happy to profit by flipping players. All players want to play regularly so it is natural for squad players to look for playing opportunities. The revolving door could be busy this month.
I like Veiga, but if he wants to go, let him go. Chelsea isn't a club that needs to beg anyone to stay. I think after his performance in midweek Tosin should start at rcb and Acheampong starts at right back. This will also give us better balance when Cucu inevitably inverts.
If someone wants to go, we let him go. Hes had a good amount of playing time this season and if thats not enough, then we find a replacement. Never keep players that want to go. When one fruit spoils, you never take the risk of the rest spoiling. Toss it before he convinces others to leave too. Only good if he convinces disasi to leave haha 😂✌️ but we would need to get a decent profit for veiga if we sell him.
Wanted Veiga to stay, looks like he’s got a high ceiling but if there’s players in the squad that aren’t happy it’s best for the team that they find a move
Viega is a LCB. We already have Colwill & he is great for competing with Colwill. If any thing, Badiashile should be sold. I also think Disasi can be played in the RCB role but now Acheampong playing that role against Palace, he might be sold as well. On top of that, we have Chalobah & Tosin as well + with Fofana out.
WE don't want to sell Veiga, he wants to leave. That's the issue, saying "sell Badiashille instead" is pointless because it's not what WE want to do, it's what Veiga wants to do.
You know what that means, we will try to buy him back in 2 years for 80 mil. So stupid. Maresca is stupid and the owners. Cucu has been bad lately and we are going to let his competition go? Viega and Chilwell as both better than troll face cucu.
9:10 If I had Badiashille playing ahead of me I’d want to leave too. I still haven’t given up on Badiashille, he’s young, and I think he had a good first season but in this seasons form veiga should be getting in over him.
icl, i might be wrong and i am a big gusto fan so don't get me wrong, but i dont see how the same that is being said for chilwell isn't being said for gusto, because he clearly isnt doing a good job at inverting, which is also normal as he's still learning that position but his profile is clearly more of a conventional up and down right back and i feel like with james being fit again, he won't be playing at all as the coach might prefer using acheampong or even caicedo in that position
Can we just buy first team ready players? We don't want development players. We should be looking at players who are bordering world class at minimum, not kids with good stats. Supposed to be Chelsea Football Club
The couch must give him opportunity at CB. Have u watched him play for Portugal? He should be first choice at center center back.. The couch is to blame if we let go another gem. honest compared to the rest we have in CB no one better not even Levi Colwill is close
Would be sorry to see Veiga go. Sounds like we're not going to lose on the deal though so… Also sad to see Mudryk's career apparently stalled, have to be real though and Herdandez's stats are very interesting.
Things don't seem as tight as the squad meant to be. A lot of non starters itching for moves, discipline issues. Coach not using subs means less playing time for 'B' team players, cant just have toddlers on the bench. Why Madueke not included in last squad, injured?
Ever heard of something called "game state"? When you take out a player too early when the game is stable, you run the risk of disrupting the flow, which takes time to recover and you could have conceded two or three goals in that period.
Maybe there's a lot more to the viega matter. Could be something more to do with his exclusion frim the squad the other week. Who knows but ive got faith with Maresca. Up the Chels.
The only problem I see here is the Maintenance guys, I feel they can do a better job. We've had loads of stars in the past complaining about the rust and poor hinges around the office and Cobham particularly. We fixed it more recently when we had a massive clear out by clearlake obviously, but the problem seems to be recurring. If we can sort out a better maintenance team, I'm sure we can permanently fix the problems with the doors at Stamford Bridge, I WOULDN'T WANT THE DOORS TO HIT VEIGA ON HIS WAY OUT!!! We only want the guys who want to stay and fight for a place in the blue army. We also need better doors to keep the Kai Haverts and Mounts of this world out. Ktbfffh 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
There's a pattern of players leaving that point to Maresca. I mean, Chelsea have been poor, these guys are on the bench, they've been training and performing, we have 5 subs per game, and we haven't been using all of them and leaving them on the bench. I don't blame them for seeing a trend.
2:10 TBH I do not like the way this club is being run. How can you get attached to plays roots for players if you constantly just bringing them in just to make a quick profit.
bad take as we didn't want to sell him he is pushing for the move so we aren't looking to get quick profit maybe with other players it's different and some are getting sold for quick profit but it is what it is
You use the word “constantly” as if we’re doing this for over 80% of the players we’ve brought in recently. Stop overreacting, we can’t keep every player we sign, we have to sell some.
Bro we are trying to sell like 3 players. And all 3 are shit viega is different because h actively wants to leave. We'd rather not sell but if he wants to go what can you do
Just because we did excellent scouting and signed him on a cheap. If he leaves, profit win, if he stays, he develops and becomes a great player, win. Why would you not want your club run like that
Not quite sure why our fans are hyping Veiga up to the Nth degree. The game time argument makes 0 sense. People want him to get minutes because he's good, but we don't know how good he is because he hasn't had a lot of minutes 😅. This is either a complete media fabrication, or the player pushing for an exit. In which case we're playing into the hype. But he was like 8 Mil euros from Basel, who cares honestly? Is Ian Maatsen cooking at Villa? No?
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Yeahhh no defending this sort of behaviour. He's been here six months, getting plenty of minutes for a new young player. If he's already pushing for a move he's only going to become a bigger problem down the line. We take the instant profit and move
Veigba can leave if he wants he was never our first choice and to be honest he should never have even entertained the idea of being first choice this season
I don't think Veiga is a loss we can always replace him, he wasn't starting in the league. But I think the plan was to always get some sort of profit from these investments but I don't the club thought it would be this soon. This is great business for us and Veiga was a great investment.
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All things equal, I don’t want Veiga to go, but I don’t think people understand it’s so so different when the player is pushing for a move
Yes, you don’t want someone who will turn into a malcontent.
Because the coach is not giving him enough playing time, how do you develop as a player without playing?
@@chukwumakennedy5014why would you play him if he is not good enough? Cant control the ball properly and his passing and focus vs morecambe was shambles
@chukwumakennedy5014 the man has played alot first half the season 18 games before new year isn't exactly no play time
Agree completely with you
Shame about veiga was really excited about him but it is what it is
It was it is? You mean it is what it is? Sausage
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@@edgarsokolovskis9278 What are you banging on about?
Excited about what? His horrible passing or his stupid blind tackles?
@BaaarV excited about a player usually means before you've seen them play? BvB don't just buy anyone must think something of him
Veiga breaking my heart man
He is such a good player with a good potential 😢
He's justified. He has played more than well enough to justify more starts. Even as CB. A player has to protect his own interests. Otherwise he'll rot on the bench and be sold in a season or two by Chelsea anyway, and you fans won't even blink.
@@UkhoNaye-f1zgood player based om what?😂😂 his horrible passing?
@jeanlundi2141he played over 1000 minutes already and all i saw was stupid unnecessary tackles and horrible passing
Can Veiga take Disasi with him?
😂😂
And Badiashille. That guy is absolute turd
Veiga is worth £25m and improving. No point in selling him if you have to spend that on a replacement. ......but if he wants out then he's gone.
I can empathize with him wanting more playing time, although him pushing for a move in my opinion is very disrespectful to the club (a top PL club at that) who gave him an opportunity and see him a part of their plans
He doesn’t owe us anything lmao
@atxmu never said he owed anyone anything, just that it's disrespectful to the club, and when a massive team gives you an opportunity others would die for and you do this. I'd say it's pretty disrespectful and speaks volumes about a player
@ no it doesn’t lmao stop whining
@@atxmu it's called an opinion🙌🏼 No need to be rude
U guys are seeing this from different perspective,when a player is pushing to leave a massive football club like Chelsea ✅it shows confidence, if he wants to play at CB he will be the first choice. Have u watched him play for Portugal at CB?
Hernandez plays in La Liga 2 Yann - not La Liga. We're looking at "Championship" players again LOL
I would be sad to see veiga leave but if we can double/triple the money we spent then it would be hard to resist the opportunity
Chelsea is a much bigger shop window than FC Basel. It was a smart move even if he wasn't starting many games as it's far more likely the top-level scouts would see him perform. And it appears to have worked. His valuation is double what it was, and he's now getting call-ups to the senior national team. I'd be sorry to see him goo because I believe he will be a quality player, but he really isn't in our long-term plans atm -- though perhaps he could be getting more minutes at CB given the injuries.
Everyone saying 'he deserves minutes' have a very short term memory - Maresca denied him a start because of his attitude being bad having turned up late to a team meeting. Where is this supportive & energy for Chilly?
I really love the “idea” of veiga. In theory he’s a GREAT signing. He’s raw though. Makes rash decisions and tackles. Do I want him to leave? Hell no. When you watch him you see flashes of brilliance at times. He just needs development. The thing that pisses me off about all this is him saying he wants to play at CB. He never said that even when the club asked him. He basically said he didn’t care where he played. Now all of a sudden you want to be a CB? If you want to leave then kick rocks but they’ll have to cough up at least 20 mil plus add ons.
Buyback clause on Veiga please!!
Limited opportunities for growth. Preferred pecking order. Chance for further development.
My feeling is Renato came to Chelsea expecting it to be a real step up and that he would need time to adjust and raise his game. What's happened is he has looked very comfortable and has found himself getting in to the Portugal team as a CB. I wouldn't be surprised if he has been told by the national team that he has a chance to lock down that spot of he can get more game time and experience as a CB. Double our money in 6 months and insert a sell on clause in case he really explodes and wish him all the best 👍
Not impressed with Veiga, commits too many fouls and loses possession in poor areas. Goodbye and add a sell on clause just as insurance.
You've based thst off the last game probably lol
@@Seanself363no one every game. He is very right, Veiga is mediocre and at his best a Southampton player
@@Seanself363no, if people pay attention without blue tinted glasses it's been literally every game. I've been telling people from day dot he's too raw. Makes silly decisions. Always messes around with the ball at the back. If we make a profit of even a million it's fantastic business. Go watch his games back and pay objective attention
I hope we bloody well win! I'm going to the match. Come on you blues!!
Veiga must have known what positions we wanted him to Play when we signed him…. Weird if he wants to go already and a red flag for me that we have a squad that is not happy
I have a feeling that some of these players may possibly be doing a 1000 IQ move… join Chels, put themselves on the MainStage, if things don’t go well they will push for a move to a top level club…. Just a thought
All Chelsea players are talented and have a price, and Chelsea is happy to profit by flipping players. All players want to play regularly so it is natural for squad players to look for playing opportunities. The revolving door could be busy this month.
If Vaiga goes, I want kerkez as replacement! Yeremy Hernandez looks great!
I like Veiga, but if he wants to go, let him go. Chelsea isn't a club that needs to beg anyone to stay.
I think after his performance in midweek Tosin should start at rcb and Acheampong starts at right back. This will also give us better balance when Cucu inevitably inverts.
At this point, I truly do trust our recruiting team to do it again. Sell Viega if he wants to go, double your money, and go find another one.
If veiga goes or stays, I still want to see the back of the Monaco mares, Disaster and Badi as hell.
He is feeling himself to much and soon nobody was tlkn about Veiga b4 he arrived at Chealsea lmfao
Fantastic commentary on the LIB Pod, as well. They need more of your kind of chaos.
If someone wants to go, we let him go. Hes had a good amount of playing time this season and if thats not enough, then we find a replacement. Never keep players that want to go. When one fruit spoils, you never take the risk of the rest spoiling. Toss it before he convinces others to leave too.
Only good if he convinces disasi to leave haha 😂✌️ but we would need to get a decent profit for veiga if we sell him.
If he wants to go he can go. We don’t need players that don’t want to be at Chelsea and fight for the club
Interesting news. Trimming the fat is surprising at times. "Put or shut up". Let's back the team and get 3pts #ktbffh
Wanted Veiga to stay, looks like he’s got a high ceiling but if there’s players in the squad that aren’t happy it’s best for the team that they find a move
Sanchez
James Acheampong Colwill Cucu
Caicedo Enzo
Sancho Palmer Félix
Jackson
And when this team loses, which it will, what happens to you?
Hope Chilwell Stays and finds a rotational role
I’ve wondered why we haven’t put Vega in cb. He looked good for his National team there.
Cause he’d have to displace Colwill which ain’t happening
@@absolutespoon2074 Thought there was more than one CB?
@@absolutespoon2074tbf Colwill is only good at central CB
@jeanlundi2141Veiga ain’t playing as a right sided centre half though, is he? You fuckin weapon.
Wonder whether Portugal management have suggested he concentrate on being a CB..
Viega is a LCB. We already have Colwill & he is great for competing with Colwill.
If any thing, Badiashile should be sold. I also think Disasi can be played in the RCB role but now Acheampong playing that role against Palace, he might be sold as well.
On top of that, we have Chalobah & Tosin as well + with Fofana out.
WE don't want to sell Veiga, he wants to leave. That's the issue, saying "sell Badiashille instead" is pointless because it's not what WE want to do, it's what Veiga wants to do.
Dream window although unrealistic
Guehi and Araujo in
Chilwell Disasi Badiashile Tosin out
Our defence just not good enough to win top honours
If there’s interest in a player, can we see more of him before getting into stats?
You know what that means, we will try to buy him back in 2 years for 80 mil. So stupid. Maresca is stupid and the owners. Cucu has been bad lately and we are going to let his competition go? Viega and Chilwell as both better than troll face cucu.
I think we should buy yan and put him up at striker 😌😌💙
Thats a great starting 11.
Renato is an odd one for sure. Should prioritise club over country imo but did he even have a cap before joining us?
We don't need to sell him. He just joined, the power is in the clubs hands.
Deportivo play in Segunda
As a bvb fan and big cfc supporter love these deals. Veiga Carney would be great business. Would have also loved to snag caseidi
9:10 If I had Badiashille playing ahead of me I’d want to leave too. I still haven’t given up on Badiashille, he’s young, and I think he had a good first season but in this seasons form veiga should be getting in over him.
icl, i might be wrong and i am a big gusto fan so don't get me wrong, but i dont see how the same that is being said for chilwell isn't being said for gusto, because he clearly isnt doing a good job at inverting, which is also normal as he's still learning that position but his profile is clearly more of a conventional up and down right back and i feel like with james being fit again, he won't be playing at all as the coach might prefer using acheampong or even caicedo in that position
Can we just buy first team ready players? We don't want development players. We should be looking at players who are bordering world class at minimum, not kids with good stats. Supposed to be Chelsea Football Club
He wants to place centre back because he doesn’t get in front of others at left back for Portugal. Poor move from him though forcing the deal
Viega should have been getting time when Lavia was down or so sub in for Ciadeo
Another one bites the dust.😅
Yan with the classic 2-1 predictions😅
The couch must give him opportunity at CB. Have u watched him play for Portugal?
He should be first choice at center center back.. The couch is to blame if we let go another gem. honest compared to the rest we have in CB no one better not even Levi Colwill is close
Would be sorry to see Veiga go. Sounds like we're not going to lose on the deal though so… Also sad to see Mudryk's career apparently stalled, have to be real though and Herdandez's stats are very interesting.
Things don't seem as tight as the squad meant to be. A lot of non starters itching for moves, discipline issues. Coach not using subs means less playing time for 'B' team players, cant just have toddlers on the bench. Why Madueke not included in last squad, injured?
Hernandez is a LaLiga 2 player, not playing in the top flight. This should be considered when looking at his stats.
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what is the news on kendry paez and etevao
No news, both are joining in the summer. Paez might get a loan but Estevao will be in the first team.
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I hope Maresca make the needed changes at 65minutes instead of the 80th minutes
Ever heard of something called "game state"? When you take out a player too early when the game is stable, you run the risk of disrupting the flow, which takes time to recover and you could have conceded two or three goals in that period.
Maybe there's a lot more to the viega matter. Could be something more to do with his exclusion frim the squad the other week. Who knows but ive got faith with Maresca. Up the Chels.
Yes Yan!!
So we bought in viega double the money on him jobs a good un
We took renato out the Swiss alps and this is how he says thanks
Crap defence average midfield and no striker where talking about wingers !
Cough cough stocks are gambling when u dont do DD
The only problem I see here is the Maintenance guys, I feel they can do a better job. We've had loads of stars in the past complaining about the rust and poor hinges around the office and Cobham particularly. We fixed it more recently when we had a massive clear out by clearlake obviously, but the problem seems to be recurring.
If we can sort out a better maintenance team, I'm sure we can permanently fix the problems with the doors at Stamford Bridge, I WOULDN'T WANT THE DOORS TO HIT VEIGA ON HIS WAY OUT!!! We only want the guys who want to stay and fight for a place in the blue army. We also need better doors to keep the Kai Haverts and Mounts of this world out.
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I don't think letting Veiga go is a good decision. He's a good player and can play in different positions
He wants to leave u never hold on to player who wants to leave
He’s also not prem quality just yet. You wouldn’t trust him to start if Cucurella is injured
He gives us a lot of options. I will prefer Badiashile sold.
@@henryksmolinski8506 yeah you're on point
@@arolawunmichael6244 well said. Veiga for me is a player who can develop rapidly under Maresca
Chelsea v Bou needs Felix to start
There's a pattern of players leaving that point to Maresca.
I mean, Chelsea have been poor, these guys are on the bench, they've been training and performing, we have 5 subs per game, and we haven't been using all of them and leaving them on the bench. I don't blame them for seeing a trend.
It points to the Chelsea manager, Maresca who should feel the shame when players want to leave the club.
Dude could easily replace mudryk, but he aint ready for the PL tho. He needs at least one year of french, italian or portuguese top tier football.
If viega wanna go then let him go i don't like players that don't wanna fight to get it right
Veiga wants to play CB and has no path here as he was just passed over Josh. May be a smart Move for everyone involved
2:10 TBH I do not like the way this club is being run. How can you get attached to plays roots for players if you constantly just bringing them in just to make a quick profit.
bad take as we didn't want to sell him he is pushing for the move so we aren't looking to get quick profit maybe with other players it's different and some are getting sold for quick profit but it is what it is
You use the word “constantly” as if we’re doing this for over 80% of the players we’ve brought in recently. Stop overreacting, we can’t keep every player we sign, we have to sell some.
Bro we are trying to sell like 3 players. And all 3 are shit viega is different because h actively wants to leave. We'd rather not sell but if he wants to go what can you do
Just because we did excellent scouting and signed him on a cheap. If he leaves, profit win, if he stays, he develops and becomes a great player, win. Why would you not want your club run like that
Not quite sure why our fans are hyping Veiga up to the Nth degree. The game time argument makes 0 sense. People want him to get minutes because he's good, but we don't know how good he is because he hasn't had a lot of minutes 😅.
This is either a complete media fabrication, or the player pushing for an exit. In which case we're playing into the hype. But he was like 8 Mil euros from Basel, who cares honestly? Is Ian Maatsen cooking at Villa? No?
Why did we even sign viega for if we gna sell him?
Where does he fit. Estavo is coming, we have palmer, neto and Noni. Where does he fit?
How about a central defender who can play more then 3 games a season.
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Veiga will go to a new club due to his lack of playing time for obvious reason
CHELSEA NOT READY FOR UCL THIS SEASON-Maresca
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It is gambling
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If he has to say it’s not gambling, chances are it’s gambling
Better let veiga play in cb instead of DISASter
Don't sell him he's a unit m8
Yeahhh no defending this sort of behaviour. He's been here six months, getting plenty of minutes for a new young player. If he's already pushing for a move he's only going to become a bigger problem down the line. We take the instant profit and move
Chelsea need a centre back, viega wants to leave to play centre back.
We have high asking prices for players we're not playing 🤣 a joke. Yan will score a world cup final goal before we get 40mil for Carney.
Ik we looking for a Mudryk replacement but George is on the bench and I think he’s already better than Misha
Should have kept Callum Hudson Odoi.
Wr actually have ben Chilwell 😅
Veigba can leave if he wants he was never our first choice and to be honest he should never have even entertained the idea of being first choice this season
It's not LaLiga, it's LaLiga 2, baseline research man
Not starting Tosin would be MORONIC
Let’s not waste money on another left winger, put Jackson on the Left and get a new striker
La liga B second tear
I don't think Veiga is a loss we can always replace him, he wasn't starting in the league. But I think the plan was to always get some sort of profit from these investments but I don't the club thought it would be this soon. This is great business for us and Veiga was a great investment.
Veiga can go not helping at all
Veiga is rank average.. sell him
Bro veiga is stupid I mean wow homie couldn't wait a year or 2 and he would a starter I was a big fan 😢
Veiga isn’t fast enough and his positioning is bad. Look to our academy
lol not fast enough.
I think that's why he wants the CB role. I think the prem is too fast for him to play intricate roles in left back or midfield ..
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