I have an anchor looking a lot like a Delta. My point is that the size of an anchor is a big point in how well it is holding. My anchor is perhaps not the most modern, but it is 32 kg for my 42 feet, 11 t boat. I have not been in any difficulties even in wind reaching 25 m/s with the anchor dragging after it had been properly set. In high winds I like to put out more chain than the recommended 5 times the depth, going rather for 7 or 8 times, I have over 80 m of 10 mm chain. I still have to experience a significant direction change in high winds while anchoring. I use a rope wound around a rubber damper between chain and boat to take shocks. I use the anchor watch program on my plotter, with an alarm if the anchor should start dragging.
Outstanding, I have been aware of this product for a little while now, as someone who is familiar with the Rocna roll over bar, I was curious to learn of their clever solution, ditto Mantus swivel. Much appreciated and as you rightly point out it's the only thing keeping you safe.
Sailing Ocean Fox. Awesome video on the New Anchor. Ultra Anchor Company needs to Get With the Big Insurance Company and come up with a Premium adjustment if you Buy this Anchor . Peter and Carla did you see the New Monohull
Part 2. Please take a look at the New Jeanneau Yacht 55, you Two will love it and Get your Butts back to Sailing that is what made you two a very happy Couple and Fans love you
👍🙂 I didn't expect another story from the guy, but what he says about the Ultra, is also the case with the Rocna and the Mantus. Those two also have a heavy lower part, they never keep laying on their back and they also keep digging deeper with more wind. And digging in very quickly after turning. Look at the real life tests of SV Penope. The only extra I see with the Ultra (which is a beautiful anchor, by the way), is that we need to lower our anchor a little bit when installing our passarelle in a marina, because of the arch.
its pretty much the same for all the late generation - specifically designs are certified with Super High Holding Power certification, the commentary from the "sales man" is patently obvious he needs a bit more seatime to be credible.
Pity they missed the Sacra Excel - and also a bit of a pity they missed the fact that with all new generation anchors you should remodel the way you stow the anchor on the bow ( if that is your wish) to retrofit the "new generation" gear -
I'm buying a boat (nice one) with a 45 lb CQR. The current owner swears by it. He's sailed all his life and sticks with the plow. I'm not married to that anchor am looking at Mantus or Rocna. However, my last bigger boat (a ketch) also had a CQR plow (45 lb) and I don't recall having any set problems. I always backed down hard on it and it stayed set. I have some thinking to do for when I close on the boat.. TY for providing another option.
You are very welcome. At the end of the day the budget comes into play as well and this is an expensive one but we think that depending on what your cruising plans are, this one will make you sleep better.
CQR is literally old technology. Used to use it on a 41’ ketch, ok but often several attempts to,set and crap in grass. Spade is better, Rocna is better, Mantus M1 is my best choice for Florida. Have never tried the Ultra, and have no need to try for now. The Mantus sets instantly, even on short scope, goes deep, and is great with reversing current. Have NEVER had it drag or not set in 2 years, except once when it fouled on a tree limb.
CQR literally stands for "Coastal Quick Release" (it's right there in the name!) It's a good enough anchor for a day-pick: especially if you plan to stay aboard. I would never trust my home/life to it: especially not in a storm. Also, it should be noted that, as it ages and the pin wears down, the plow's angle-of-attack changes WORSENS. This to say, what once might have been a good enough anchor that held you through plenty of situations is, with time, becoming less and less good enough.. ...but you're not going to know it until you're dragging... ...and, even then, you're going to blame yourself or the sea-floor... ...until you drag again a month later... but you'll still probably blame yourself... ...until after a couple of months, you start to realise you're dragging more and more often... And you'll start to think: "WHAT IS HAPPENING?!? THIS ANCHOR HAS HELD ME IN WAY WORSE CONDITIONS THAN THIS!!!" ...and, hopefully, my words will come back to you... ...and you'll go and finally get yourself a different anchor... (and, hopefully, none of those draggings was catastrophic...)
or buy a Rocna or Vulcan for a fraction of the price? Also why would you want anything stainless underwater? Galvanised is better for this use and cheaper.
There is one thing missing in his story and that is the importance of knowing how to anchor. Sounds to me that Ultra made it easier for people to anchor when they don't know how to anchor. That means they will still make the same mistakes, but they are less likely to find out. It should be good if sailing instructors spend more time teaching students how to anchor properly. Too often I see boats coming into an anchorage, they drop the anchor, throw out the minimum of chain and that is it. In good weather that may be enough, but as soon as the wind picks up they start dragging and the first thing everybody does is ? Blame the anchor. That needs to change.
Testing anchors in sand and mud for their holding power is useless. They all work in ideal conditions. What one really wants to know is which anchor will set and hold in grass or hard sand or rock. This Ultra saleman talks about anchors "landing upside down" which is ridiculous. A Delta cannot maintain an upside down position. It immediately rolls to one side or the other and then begins to set. I do not think that our salesboy has any experience using the Delta, and I think that he has a commercial interest in trying to discredit it. IMO, the Delta is the most cost-effective, and I do have experience in using one. I have found the 22 lb. Delta to be superior to the 35 lb. CQR. I always used a minimum of 50 ft. of chain. SS Ultra? Say goodbye to $$$$ when it fouls in 50 ft. of water. $4,000.00? YIKES!
They simply copy The comproved Spade anchor concept! Its incredible how people dont anderstand nothing about anchors... Ultra its a beautiful good anchor, but you can get much cheaper anchors with The same or best performance. By The way, wy a 35 kg of stainless cost 3.000€?????🤔
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I have an anchor looking a lot like a Delta. My point is that the size of an anchor is a big point in how well it is holding. My anchor is perhaps not the most modern, but it is 32 kg for my 42 feet, 11 t boat. I have not been in any difficulties even in wind reaching 25 m/s with the anchor dragging after it had been properly set. In high winds I like to put out more chain than the recommended 5 times the depth, going rather for 7 or 8 times, I have over 80 m of 10 mm chain. I still have to experience a significant direction change in high winds while anchoring. I use a rope wound around a rubber damper between chain and boat to take shocks.
I use the anchor watch program on my plotter, with an alarm if the anchor should start dragging.
Peter was excellent at explaining both the competition and the benefits of their product. Great video!
Nice way to explain anchoring
Thank you
Best anchor report on an awesome anchor, well done.
Thank you
Outstanding, I have been aware of this product for a little while now, as someone who is familiar with the Rocna roll over bar, I was curious to learn of their clever solution, ditto Mantus swivel. Much appreciated and as you rightly point out it's the only thing keeping you safe.
Thank you
Delta doesn't hold. I gave away a new delta and bought a anchor that holds. Please stop promoting something that doesn't work
Centre of gravity demo with the small model doesn’t consider the weight of swivel and chain on the end of the shank…
Sailing Ocean Fox. Awesome video on the New Anchor. Ultra Anchor Company needs to Get With the Big Insurance Company and come up with a Premium adjustment if you Buy this Anchor . Peter and Carla did you see the New Monohull
Part 2. Please take a look at the New Jeanneau Yacht 55, you Two will love it and Get your Butts back to Sailing that is what made you two a very happy Couple and Fans love you
good informative piece Simon.., looking forward to the new series...cheers
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you
👍🙂 I didn't expect another story from the guy, but what he says about the Ultra, is also the case with the Rocna and the Mantus. Those two also have a heavy lower part, they never keep laying on their back and they also keep digging deeper with more wind. And digging in very quickly after turning. Look at the real life tests of SV Penope. The only extra I see with the Ultra (which is a beautiful anchor, by the way), is that we need to lower our anchor a little bit when installing our passarelle in a marina, because of the arch.
its pretty much the same for all the late generation - specifically designs are certified with Super High Holding Power certification, the commentary from the "sales man" is patently obvious he needs a bit more seatime to be credible.
Pity they missed the Sacra Excel - and also a bit of a pity they missed the fact that with all new generation anchors you should remodel the way you stow the anchor on the bow ( if that is your wish) to retrofit the "new generation" gear -
Also the excellent Sarca Excel is a “plow” looking anchor like Delta. Of course mr from Ultra Marine didn’t mention that
Very interesting.
The price… [couch] sorry mate, what was it again? 😅
Yeah, sailors do have a budget!
I'm buying a boat (nice one) with a 45 lb CQR. The current owner swears by it. He's sailed all his life and sticks with the plow. I'm not married to that anchor am looking at Mantus or Rocna. However, my last bigger boat (a ketch) also had a CQR plow (45 lb) and I don't recall having any set problems. I always backed down hard on it and it stayed set. I have some thinking to do for when I close on the boat.. TY for providing another option.
You are very welcome. At the end of the day the budget comes into play as well and this is an expensive one but we think that depending on what your cruising plans are, this one will make you sleep better.
CQR is literally old technology. Used to use it on a 41’ ketch, ok but often several attempts to,set and crap in grass.
Spade is better, Rocna is better, Mantus M1 is my best choice for Florida. Have never tried the Ultra, and have no need to try for now.
The Mantus sets instantly, even on short scope, goes deep, and is great with reversing current. Have NEVER had it drag or not set in 2 years, except once when it fouled on a tree limb.
CQR literally stands for "Coastal Quick Release"
(it's right there in the name!)
It's a good enough anchor for a day-pick: especially if you plan to stay aboard.
I would never trust my home/life to it: especially not in a storm.
Also, it should be noted that, as it ages and the pin wears down, the plow's angle-of-attack changes WORSENS.
This to say, what once might have been a good enough anchor that held you through plenty of situations is, with time, becoming less and less good enough..
...but you're not going to know it until you're dragging...
...and, even then, you're going to blame yourself or the sea-floor...
...until you drag again a month later... but you'll still probably blame yourself...
...until after a couple of months, you start to realise you're dragging more and more often...
And you'll start to think: "WHAT IS HAPPENING?!? THIS ANCHOR HAS HELD ME IN WAY WORSE CONDITIONS THAN THIS!!!"
...and, hopefully, my words will come back to you...
...and you'll go and finally get yourself a different anchor...
(and, hopefully, none of those draggings was catastrophic...)
or buy a Rocna or Vulcan for a fraction of the price? Also why would you want anything stainless underwater? Galvanised is better for this use and cheaper.
Just bought one 7 days ago,there is no competition to Ultra
There is one thing missing in his story and that is the importance of knowing how to anchor. Sounds to me that Ultra made it easier for people to anchor when they don't know how to anchor. That means they will still make the same mistakes, but they are less likely to find out.
It should be good if sailing instructors spend more time teaching students how to anchor properly. Too often I see boats coming into an anchorage, they drop the anchor, throw out the minimum of chain and that is it. In good weather that may be enough, but as soon as the wind picks up they start dragging and the first thing everybody does is ? Blame the anchor.
That needs to change.
love your vdo 🥰
Testing anchors in sand and mud for their holding power is useless. They all work in ideal conditions. What one really wants to know is which anchor will set and hold in grass or hard sand or rock. This Ultra saleman talks about anchors "landing upside down" which is ridiculous. A Delta cannot maintain an upside down position. It immediately rolls to one side or the other and then begins to set. I do not think that our salesboy has any experience using the Delta, and I think that he has a commercial interest in trying to discredit it.
IMO, the Delta is the most cost-effective, and I do have experience in using one. I have found the 22 lb. Delta to be superior to the 35 lb. CQR. I always used a minimum of 50 ft. of chain.
SS Ultra? Say goodbye to $$$$ when it fouls in 50 ft. of water. $4,000.00? YIKES!
I prefer the Jambo
Its almost 3 times price of 40kg Rocna xDxD
*galvanized one
It's not cheap, I have to agree
They simply copy The comproved Spade anchor concept!
Its incredible how people dont anderstand nothing about anchors...
Ultra its a beautiful good anchor, but you can get much cheaper anchors with The same or best performance.
By The way, wy a 35 kg of stainless cost 3.000€?????🤔
Here here!
It's because people look to salesmen to teach them about anchoring...
Misleading headline - microphone holding - disappointing
Any best quality of any anchor based on Wahan is equal to zero.