I was born in '41 but I remember those plows on the hill where Lived in Cortland county. They used to bring the road grader or a bulldozer to push snow way back a few times a winter. Barnes Corners is still there in 2020 and in what is now called the snow belt. Winds off Lake Ontario gather moisture and dump it by the foot up there, 30-40 miles north of Syracuse NY. Plowing snow in 49 and 50 was still about the same also. Thank God this film was rescued.
@@jamesshride3158 I'm well aware of this. I bust it out whenever I hear the old complaining about the young. I say "Your parents complained about you, their parents complained about them. And yet every generation keeps moving forward. How about you do something new?"
Upstate NY has not changed that much. The trucks have! Our town had a 10 wheel drive Mack with V plow. In about 1992, I saw that truck ease into a hundred foot long drift and the only thing you could see was the column of black exhaust! So much snow went over the truck, there was three feet of snow left behind, to be cleaned up on the return run!
I bet that Mack had the E9, that motor is just nuts. You can tune the hell out of them--there's a guy on the 'Tube (backinblackpulling) with an E9 that revs into the 4 thousands I think, with well over 1000 hp. Bonkers engine.
Everything had less horse power, but was also geared lower then. My '39 Ford 9N only had 17 hp originally, and has a '48 8N motor in it now, which only has 27 hp. Still runs good, sounds good, and pulls good. I bet more than half the equipment made today won't be around 83 years from now!
Boy, that'd be being generous--I bet half the equipment made today barely makes it 20 years before some mainboard fries itself, or some sensor value out of range stops the whole thing starting (or sends it into limp mode, or or or or etc.)
id give everything i have to have grew up in that era. i so wish we had a cohesive society like back then... everyone working together for their communities benefit.. no social media or corporate media controlling our thoughts. just to be a simple farmer back then would have been so nice. difficult, yes, but id much rather have the difficulties from then, than the difficulties of today.
Dude, you literally know nothing about the late 30s/early 40s--the whole world was a SUPER-divisive place (sorta like today) and you're just viewing the era with rose-tinted glasses. People still work together and help each other outside of your little Internet bubble--try going outside and stop watching the damn news so much. AND QUIT FACEBOOK!
I live about 45 minutes to the south of Turin and its crazy to see what this actually looked like, my parents told me stories about these types of winters and now I can even appearance it more now seeing this video
I remember back in 1967 on our country road they brought in end loaders from the stone quarry to open up the road as the road maintainer with the V plow couldn't get it opened
I use to X-country ski at Barnes Corners in the 70s. There was only one house remaining at that time and the entire area was devoted to snowmobiling and skiing. They had an annual 59k ski race that was a real event.
Great video back then the mail boxes were a lot stronger.cjd wash state.p.s. in 1970 in north wash state lynden at the farm we had 18 ft snow drifts they used D8 cat dozer because v plow truck could not go thru the milk trucks had to get to the farmers ☃️
Just like I thought, that's on the east end of Lake Ontario, which never freezes over, so lake effect snow occurs all winter long when the wind and temperatures match up.
The amount of anthropogenic greenhouse gases emitted into Earth's oceans and atmosphere is predicted to prevent the next glacial period for the next 500,000 years, which otherwise would begin in around 50,000 years, and likely more glacial cycles after. So we're actually protecting ourselves from glaciers.
A great video series, but I have a question: As far as I know, the snowblower already existed at this time. Why didnt they use one under those conditions? Thanks!
Dreisternehof - For a storm in '59 the first snow blower any of us had ever seen was brought in to open the roads where I lived. I don't know what snowblowers existed before the '50s, but I doubt many municipalities could afford such occasionally used and expensive equipment.
@@douglas_drew Plus snowblowers aren't useful when you have no place to blow the snow: country roads with open fields, yes; city streets with sidewalks/lawns/windows/pedestrians/small children/pets, no.
@@haroldwilkes598 Yes, huge arch of snow with all of us locals watching from the hills and pastures. One stretch of our farm had a hollow by a hilly hay field and a one-room schoolhouse on the hill across the road, drifted in between 10'-14' high. The snowblower was just 8' high with vertical end blades going up another 4', so it was go forward 2'-3', backup to let the higher snow fall down, then go ahead again, just like blowing my driveway with my John Deere but on a much grander scale, especially in the eyes of the nine-year-old kid I was at the time.
@@douglas_drew My first memory of a snowblower is a B movie from the 50s where a bad guy fell into the rotating blades...Virginia did not get much snow back then so my dad had snow chains and just churned into work through it. Hilly town so driving was an adventure. I only remember one winter when we could go sledding or build a less than artistic snowman. Had a HO model railroad snowblower though so I loved them even then.
@@haroldwilkes598 As a kid watching with such facination, I actually was worried about just such an event. While working on the highest drifts a couple of men had to walk ahead on the crusted snow with shovels to make relief cuts to get the higher snow to fall when the rig backed up, and I spoke to my Mom about the danger (she told me not to worry, they knew what they were doing). Ya see, we had a neighbor that had fallen off a silage wagon into an auger-style silo blower and lost his legs above the knees, so when I saw the rows of augers on the front of the snow blower higher than the workers' heads when they were greasing it, my imagination went into overdrive. Glad I hadn't seen that B movie!
I suppose these guys really know what they're doing but when I push snow up here in NE Washington state I try to take it off in layers, as much as the plow can handle at a time. Seems like ramming into a solid snow bank is awful hard on the equipment and will eventually wear it out or cause breakages. But then I have to pay for breakage, not like a county road crew.
Thankyou for the history lessons. Perhaps, they could have loaded some snow, into the truck box. Or, a flat thick pad, of cement. Added weight, would make a HUGE DIFFERENCE, spreading the snow around out front, left and right sides. Anyway, just a thought. ( i am very creative). Take care, all !
They used cinders to fill up the truck box for weight to get traction and to spread on the hills. No automatic spreaders though, just two men with shovels, each in turn throwing a shovelfull in a swing across the road leaving a stripe every few feet. But of course they couldn't spread cinders while bucking drifts, so they had to clear going one way and spread going back.
Fun to watch the old machines work and all the men that came out to help. But please turn down that awful music.....much to loud, hard to hear the man speaking.
It's funny how this guy thinks machines were hot shit back then. A commercially available pickup now has 475 horsepower. They don't even make pickups with clutches anymore.
@@mikeznel6048 I said "pickups" aren't made with clutches anymore. They haven't been since 2018. Dodge was the last. Commercial trucks are still made with clutches, however, automatics and automated manuals are rapidly becoming more popular.
I was born in '41 but I remember those plows on the hill where Lived in Cortland county. They used to bring the road grader or a bulldozer to push snow way back a few times a winter. Barnes Corners is still there in 2020 and in what is now called the snow belt. Winds off Lake Ontario gather moisture and dump it by the foot up there, 30-40 miles north of Syracuse NY. Plowing snow in 49 and 50 was still about the same also. Thank God this film was rescued.
Good on you for getting out of this damn county. I live up in Scott. The city of cortland is horrible lately.
I had this on tape from the NYS DOT about 25 years ago, thanks for posting this!
Man the amount of whip lash the drivers got is intense.
Makes ya realize how easy we have it today. And these good ol' boys didnt complain about a thing! Ahh the good ol' days.
Well, not on camera anyway. lol
If you don't think people complained before you came around, you have a very limited view of reality.
@@wiredforstereo Usually the damn kids fault.
www.historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/
@@jamesshride3158 I'm well aware of this. I bust it out whenever I hear the old complaining about the young. I say "Your parents complained about you, their parents complained about them. And yet every generation keeps moving forward. How about you do something new?"
You know he was complaining when he got home after slamming the snow like that all day
Upstate NY has not changed that much. The trucks have! Our town had a 10 wheel drive Mack with V plow. In about 1992, I saw that truck ease into a hundred foot long drift and the only thing you could see was the column of black exhaust! So much snow went over the truck, there was three feet of snow left behind, to be cleaned up on the return run!
Wow what a sight to see that must of been
I bet that Mack had the E9, that motor is just nuts. You can tune the hell out of them--there's a guy on the 'Tube (backinblackpulling) with an E9 that revs into the 4 thousands I think, with well over 1000 hp. Bonkers engine.
Everything had less horse power, but was also geared lower then. My '39 Ford 9N only had 17 hp originally, and has a '48 8N motor in it now, which only has 27 hp. Still runs good, sounds good, and pulls good. I bet more than half the equipment made today won't be around 83 years from now!
Boy, that'd be being generous--I bet half the equipment made today barely makes it 20 years before some mainboard fries itself, or some sensor value out of range stops the whole thing starting (or sends it into limp mode, or or or or etc.)
Love seeing these old machines in action!👍
I think some of those old Oshkosh trucks are still around here in Wisconsin plowing snow today!
Yes they are, We have one in southern Wisconsin in our home town.
This is a fantastic video from when the men were men, & weren't afraid to put in a hard day's work.
Pretty impressive structural strength of that plow & truck.
This was awesome to see. Thank you for posting this. Some times I wish I lived back in those days. 👍
Really appreciate you sharing this, very interesting
This area is in the lake effect snow belt of New York. Lots of snow all winter.
id give everything i have to have grew up in that era. i so wish we had a cohesive society like back then... everyone working together for their communities benefit.. no social media or corporate media controlling our thoughts. just to be a simple farmer back then would have been so nice. difficult, yes, but id much rather have the difficulties from then, than the difficulties of today.
Dude, you literally know nothing about the late 30s/early 40s--the whole world was a SUPER-divisive place (sorta like today) and you're just viewing the era with rose-tinted glasses. People still work together and help each other outside of your little Internet bubble--try going outside and stop watching the damn news so much. AND QUIT FACEBOOK!
@@HANKTHEDANKEST sounds like you have some pent up anger. Get some help dude.
I live about 45 minutes to the south of Turin and its crazy to see what this actually looked like, my parents told me stories about these types of winters and now I can even appearance it more now seeing this video
We have a similar winter every year.the Valley behind my acreage packs 8 feet plus every winter. Luckily only 4 to 5 feet hits my home.
I remember back in 1967 on our country road they brought in end loaders from the stone quarry to open up the road as the road maintainer with the V plow couldn't get it opened
Hit it again Charlie! Charlie's going to get a beer maybe 2.
That’s also a shit ton a snow. Normal day plows couldn’t just drive straight through that lmao.
I use to X-country ski at Barnes Corners in the 70s. There was only one house remaining at that time and the entire area was devoted to snowmobiling and skiing. They had an annual 59k ski race that was a real event.
I used to live in Lockport. We would get a snowdrift 12 feet high on the side of our house.
Old school vintage snow. Brutal.
Barnes corners is just north of Booneville N.Y. which is 30 miles south of watertown...i went to school in Booneville!
In 2001 I worked for Waukesha Engine, in Waukesha WI, the very company that built the engine in Charlies truck.
My home town had I think it was F W D , it still would give some of the newer trucks a run for the money !!!!!!!! Like watching this old films !!!!!
No air ride seat in them beast these guys are Legend 💯
Today it's called climate change. Back then it was called,geeze it was a bad storm
Great video back then the mail boxes were a lot stronger.cjd wash state.p.s. in 1970 in north wash state lynden at the farm we had 18 ft snow drifts they used D8 cat dozer because v plow truck could not go thru the milk trucks had to get to the farmers ☃️
and just to think it was a WHOLE different world year later
Just like I thought, that's on the east end of Lake Ontario, which never freezes over, so lake effect snow occurs all winter long when the wind and temperatures match up.
I bet they kept welders busy , breaking pieces ramming the snow
There has been, and always will be, work for workers.
Damn he have balls the guy who drive the truck ,full speed inntil stop😂
12 feet of snow in those days. Now we're lucky to get 6 feet the whole winter. Really tells you alot about the planet.
Texas would like to give it back.
The amount of anthropogenic greenhouse gases emitted into Earth's oceans and atmosphere is predicted to prevent the next glacial period for the next 500,000 years, which otherwise would begin in around 50,000 years, and likely more glacial cycles after. So we're actually protecting ourselves from glaciers.
Got one of those plows up here in maine it's currently set up to go on a 6x6 fwd with a double wing setup
Near Buffalo. I have a feeling they are relating to this today. 12/24/22
That's about 3 hours from Buffalo, its an hour north of syracuse
You know you have a problem when the plow is bigger than the truck
@5:52 Mentions new plow coming in from New Boston. My guess is this was shot in Hillsborough County, NH.
New Boston NY, down from Barnes Corners, you can see it on the sign at the 4:30 mark. Mega lake effect snow region on the Tug Hill.
Awesome...
5:35 The whole family is going to town ☺️
It snowed more back then.
What year did the voiceover guy narrate it in?
Flatt & Scruggs is great background music. 🇺🇸
" He sure is an active little fellow"
Who is playing the music? It sounds like old time music that's played in upstate NY now.
absolutely love the video and the narrator watched 500 times I swear
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A great video series, but I have a question: As far as I know, the snowblower already existed at this time. Why didnt they use one under those conditions? Thanks!
Dreisternehof - For a storm in '59 the first snow blower any of us had ever seen was brought in to open the roads where I lived. I don't know what snowblowers existed before the '50s, but I doubt many municipalities could afford such occasionally used and expensive equipment.
@@douglas_drew Plus snowblowers aren't useful when you have no place to blow the snow: country roads with open fields, yes; city streets with sidewalks/lawns/windows/pedestrians/small children/pets, no.
@@haroldwilkes598 Yes, huge arch of snow with all of us locals watching from the hills and pastures. One stretch of our farm had a hollow by a hilly hay field and a one-room schoolhouse on the hill across the road, drifted in between 10'-14' high. The snowblower was just 8' high with vertical end blades going up another 4', so it was go forward 2'-3', backup to let the higher snow fall down, then go ahead again, just like blowing my driveway with my John Deere but on a much grander scale, especially in the eyes of the nine-year-old kid I was at the time.
@@douglas_drew My first memory of a snowblower is a B movie from the 50s where a bad guy fell into the rotating blades...Virginia did not get much snow back then so my dad had snow chains and just churned into work through it. Hilly town so driving was an adventure. I only remember one winter when we could go sledding or build a less than artistic snowman. Had a HO model railroad snowblower though so I loved them even then.
@@haroldwilkes598 As a kid watching with such facination, I actually was worried about just such an event. While working on the highest drifts a couple of men had to walk ahead on the crusted snow with shovels to make relief cuts to get the higher snow to fall when the rig backed up, and I spoke to my Mom about the danger (she told me not to worry, they knew what they were doing).
Ya see, we had a neighbor that had fallen off a silage wagon into an auger-style silo blower and lost his legs above the knees, so when I saw the rows of augers on the front of the snow blower higher than the workers' heads when they were greasing it, my imagination went into overdrive. Glad I hadn't seen that B movie!
Dynamite was also very popular at that time.
Man these guys must have been punch drunk after some of these runs.
4:32 was that someone on a unicycle or am i seeing things? 0.0
I suppose these guys really know what they're doing but when I push snow up here in NE Washington state I try to take it off in layers, as much as the plow can handle at a time. Seems like ramming into a solid snow bank is awful hard on the equipment and will eventually wear it out or cause breakages. But then I have to pay for breakage, not like a county road crew.
Does anybody now who the narrator is?? I’ve heard that voice before.
Ran a Oshkosh...1953
That had to have been so hard on the trucks just slamming into bank after bank
Looks like heavy snow....people had strong will back then.
Thankyou for the history lessons. Perhaps, they could have loaded some snow, into the truck box. Or, a flat thick pad, of cement. Added weight, would make a HUGE DIFFERENCE, spreading the snow around out front, left and right sides. Anyway, just a thought. ( i am very creative). Take care, all !
They used cinders to fill up the truck box for weight to get traction and to spread on the hills. No automatic spreaders though, just two men with shovels, each in turn throwing a shovelfull in a swing across the road leaving a stripe every few feet. But of course they couldn't spread cinders while bucking drifts, so they had to clear going one way and spread going back.
Not even 4x4 just chains??
The driver did that with out a seat belt.
I felt that!
and a beer
Back when men were men, women were women, and cigarettes were good for you
George and Martha? are you talking about the Washington's? 🤔
I’ll bet they waited till daylight just to film… they usually go out at night right after it comes down.
What no dynamite?
Doing it the hard way.. Lol
Glad he didn't have air bags 🤣🤣
That would be rough in there all day
They can’t do that today with 100,000 dollar machines t
Ramming speed caption
Dynamite would have been more effective break it up then plow it
Line charge would do it
whiplash was not invented before 1960
You could not do that with today's plows
*Charlie !!!!!!*
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Cavemen 💪💪
Fun old vid but didnt good old farming tractors exist back then. (Ik thet did)
I bet those would handle the thick snow better than that poor truck. 😥
Bill Monroe and JD Crowe I want what what album
Fun to watch the old machines work and all the men that came out to help. But please turn down that awful music.....much to loud, hard to hear the man speaking.
Водитель бессмертный!?
Back when there were no cry babies.
Not one obese person.
It's funny how this guy thinks machines were hot shit back then. A commercially available pickup now has 475 horsepower. They don't even make pickups with clutches anymore.
May only have 150hp with probably 650 ft lbs torque at 2200 rpm
Trucks most certainly do have clutches. Both manual friction type and fluid clutches...
@@mikeznel6048 I said "pickups" aren't made with clutches anymore. They haven't been since 2018. Dodge was the last.
Commercial trucks are still made with clutches, however, automatics and automated manuals are rapidly becoming more popular.
Toyota Tacoma's still have a stick in 2020 but that's it in American pickups
@@derrickhoover3525 I was unclear. I meant full size. Nothing against Toyota, if Toyota had a 450 size diesel dually truck, I'd own one.
Cram!
Seat belts anyone 😁
They should of put sand in the bed.
Today supervisors would not be out there. Bunch of pansies today..
I use the same technique when plow'n my ole lady's box!