It does not matter which feet you use fitted on the side or direct into the bottom, All that matters is the strength of the foot, Unfortunately for some people they are not happy unless they are moaning or putting your work down, They are just trolls after attention with nothing better to do. Oh by the way loving your build updates you really have made a great job of it all.
ROBS TRAINS Many thanks Rob and as I said in the video, I really don’t care what adjustable feet folk use - it’s entirely their choice but to tell me that the ones I have used will shear off the legs or the screws I have used will pull out is just plain not true. But they have a choice don’t they and that is not to use them, that’s fair enough - it doesn’t bother me one jot, I’m happy with my choice and that really is all what matters. Cheers for now mate. ........l.Graham
Some people are so negative and always looking for faults but remember they are experts - experts at at thinking they know all and criticising others!! I bet they are jealous and do not even have a good layout. If they are so smart why do they not have a channel to share their expertise. Take heart from all the people who like what you are doing. Graham I love your videos and always look forward to the next one and for the tips I can incorporate into my own layout. Remember there are more than one way to skin a cat so it really is what is best that suits each individual. Keep up the good work and to all the watchers - Graham is not telling us how things must be done, he is showing what he has decided suits him best and hopefully they may give us some good ideas. I see the likes far outnumber the don't likes - that speaks for its self!!.
Hi Graham Its all coming along well, what a great idea using the adjustable feet to support the lift up section. Looking forward to the next installment. All the best mate. Dave.
Tony H Hi Graham. Like your lift up section. The metal parts are really good. I have a lift off but I spent some time to get it in the right position. Look forward to no. 5.
Looks fantastic Graham. Your lift up section is very well engineered. Enjoy your break from Lakeside and come back refreshed with ideas. Talking of ideas, seeing your lift up section made me think about the main tunnel on Hawthorn Valley. I had placed a hinged section over the tunnel for access to the upper tracks, but because of the shape of the cover, it fouled on one side, so I decided to cut the cover as a straight side and fill the remaining angled area with a fixed section. This now works OK. Can't wait to see the tracks going down. Regards for now, ..... Ian
Hawthorn Valley Well your solution to the tunnel worked Ian so that’s all what matters, I’m sure some folk would have suggest many other ways of doing it but if you are happy with it and it works for you then that’s what it’s all about. Cheers for now mate. ...............Graham
Hello Graham!!! I've been away for a bit but back now and all caught up with your progress....It's looking GREAT! The modules are terrific...I can hardly wait to see Lakeside come back to life!!
Hi Graham not to pick fault I have done a very similar lift up section and I had nothing but problems after a while . I now use copper clad sleepers glued and pinned at any basebaurd joints I now have no problems what so ever
Once again Graham a job well done, will be very interested in how you cover the joins for the lift up and associated wirings. Your layout, your ideas equal your satisfaction at the end and that is all that matters. Cheers Robert Adelaide Aus.
Hi Graham . Progressing along nicely the lift up section seems to work well it is definitely strong enough I don't think you will have 11 stone of rolling stock and scenery on it (that's a lot of locos) . Looking forward to seeing some track going down .........Paul
I'm enjoying what you are doing and with regard to the feet....I liked them first time around and it has given me food for thought with regard to my layout......keep up the good work, you are inspiring me as I'm sure with others too.....looking forward to your next update......regards, Myles
Castle Junction Hi Myles and thank you for the comment. As I said in the video, there are so many variants of adjustable feet available for the legs that the choice is yours but I’m glad you like the ones I have used, they are fine and give me no issues whatsoever. I’m also pleased that I am inspiring you too, that’s great to know. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Wonder how some folks sleep at night!! Looking really good Graham. You have done a fine job and the lifting section looks totally functional especially with the addition of the dowels. Look forward to seeing progress over the coming months. Better get off to those household chores lol.
Murray Hall Hi Murray and I have just come in from installing the location dowels and it works a dream so that now completes the basic building of the lift up section, the next stage will hopefully be the laying of some track which is something I always enjoy doing so can’t wait to start that. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Well thats the most entertaining " how to " i`ve watched for a while. I`m still giggling about the bit where you went round checking the feet. Brilliant and well done.
Hi Graham. All looking good and nicely put together. My access setup is very similar except I have a lift-out section instead of a hinged lift-up. I also kept it simple and have no problems with derailments (on that section, at least!). One point I will make is that when you showed the dowels, you had the female section upside down I think. You'll notice one end of the female part is chamfered and I believe that makes getting it into the drilled hole in the wood just a little bit easier (I certainly found it was helpful when I used these). Maybe you already figured this out and were just showing the principle, but I thought it worth mentioning.
Steve Mercer Hi Steve and thanks for the comment. Yes I realise which way up the dowels should go, I was just holding them to the camera to show folk what they were like but thanks for the heads up because I could have put them in the wrong way up had I not known. Cheers for now. ..........Graham
Hi Graham,What a great job that you have done 10/10 I am looking forward to your next update it is just FAB what you have done so far,All the best,Jim.
I've been following the baseboard build with interest and good to see you have now completed the circuit. A very elegant and courteous response to the comments on ways of fitting the adjustable feet. Good that you can now focus on the building the layout. Stephen
Brilliant Graham - don't let others get to you. This is still - and always will be - your layout. You just let us Watch. Do things your way - and no other way! All the very best, Chris
Mesnil Man They don’t get me down Chris, I still carry on in my own sweet way, I use what I feel suits my needs as regards the comments and then ignore the rest - simples! 😂. Cheers for now mate. .............Graham
Graham you have done a great job on the boards, and the lifting section. We all have our own way of doing things, and as long as they work, so be it. keep up the good work, and look forward to the next video.
I have to admit, I love watching you prove your points. Had a good laugh! Personally you've done everything exactly how I plan to do mine. Take care! .......... Alan
Alan Bowers Excellent Alan and pleased that I made you laugh - in the words of Kenny Everett- all done in the best possible taste! 👍👍😄. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Agree with many below Graham, all looks fab and keep up the great work. I follow with much interest from the Netherlands and look forward to when do finally return to UK in a year or so, and can crack on with my own layout best regards Ian Brunssum.
Great job Graham looking well, just an aside could you put clip high up so that when you lift the track bed it locks in place. I am sure you've already thought about making the tracks dead when your lift up is up safety first Eh, Regards Alan
alan margalan Hi Alan, I have made a stop for the lift up section to lean up against when in the upright position and yes, I will install a micro switch to cut the power when the lift up section is raised so I don’t end up with a nasty accident. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
I love the solution for the swing out section. I think that your way of doing the track will be fine, without needing to resort to pc board ties, etc. Love to see the progress.
Hey Graham, nice video of your layout. As Steve Brown says “Its my Railroad” and I’ll do what works and pleases me. I admire the work you have done and the lift up looks and works great. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to seeing you progress on Lakeside. Have a great weekend and Cheers 👍👍👍😎😎😎 Cary
cbgadget Totally agree with what you said Cary, my time and money so my railway layout - end of. I have now installed the location dowels on the lift up section so it now closes and locates jus like it should so that’s another job I can tick off the to do list. 👍😉. Cheers for now mate. .............Graham
Hi Graham If I were you I would put some blocks of wood under the hinges of the lift section to give you clearance for the track ends to miss each other. Just a suggestion. keep up the geat work.
Bob Sims Hi Bob, at the moment there was no need to put any blocks under the hinges as the centre of the hinge pin is above the height of the track and so there was no binding of the track on the hinge side which is why I said that the proof of concept was approved - by me. However, if I decide to mount the track on cork or foam then I will need to raise the hinges by a fraction more than the thickness of the underlay. Hope that makes sense. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
Great feat of baseboard engineering enjoyed watching your recent work and look forward to further updates. Very statesman like intro about feet preferences as well.
great video as usual graham i to would be most interested as to the connections ie the power flow as for the feet i have ordered some for my own rebuild and will be using them the same way as you with every confidence al the best al 😃👍
Graham, I used similar adjustable feet on my layout due to the garage floor sloping. The only difference is that mine came with a locking nut already fitted which was a great help. It has been in the garage for about 10 years now and the layout is still perfectly level. I added an L shaped branch extension a few years ago and that too has been 100% level and matched the original layout height perfectly. Keep up the good work & thanks for the videos :-)
Pat McDermott Well that’s really reassuring to know Pat, thanks for that, that’s really cheered me up to know that I have chosen the right adjustable legs for my layout - thanks for that mate and cheers for now. ............Graham
Thanks for this video. Great help for me to get an idea on how to build my lift out section. Would you mind telling me what and where you got your feet, over centre catches and locating lugs. Steve
it all looks good to me mate . i did a lift up on the layout i started in NZ and it worked fine for the few months i had it up and as for your feet they should be fine lol as long as they have a nice big long screw in them and not the tiny ones that sometimes come with that kind of thing from the hardware shop
nz mopar rebuilds Thanks buddy, I have used decent screws to bolt the feet to the leg which I hope I proved my point in the video by sitting on the baseboards and jumping up and down - they didn’t budge! 👍. Cheers for now mate. ..........Graham
Another great update and my goodness you have been busy! The adjustable feet use for the lifting section is a stroke of genius. Looks to be a solid section. Very well planned out. You will be running trains before you know it. Clint
Leila Central Many thanks Clint, yes I seemed to have finished this part of the build much quicker than I thought I would, laying some track next I think ! 👍. Cheers for now mate. ..........Graham
Great video, Graham. I hate to admit I enjoyed the cheekish snark about the legs. Silly for some to be so bothered. The screws you used can be weighted up to 100 lbs EACH, so your table legs were fine all along and you obviously know your way around wood and screws to bother with Johnny Knowitalls telling you how to build. ANYHOW, I love the entrance. I am REAL curious of how you solved the track joint on the hinge side. The group I last built one with had a removable joint track. You did not seem to do that. Thanks for the vid!
Anthony Dodge The Model Train Outsider Hi Anthony and glad you liked the entrance and the lift up section. I just made sure that the centre of the pin that goes through the hinges was 3mm above the track height, that way the two tracks do not hit or bind each other as the section is raised - hope that helps. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Martin Lawrence I do ignore them Martin but I just felt I needed to reply to them - in the most polite way of course! 😉. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
Wonderful progress, Graham. You have not hung around! All looks very sturdy to me, and i think you have proved that the feet will not be a problem at all. The only suggestion i would make regarding the feet is to do with the feet that you have used to level the opening section. Might be worthwhile running a file over the corners that stick out, just in case you catch your trousers or legs on them. But with regard the lift up section itself, nice simple idea. Glue the track down to the baseboard where you make the cuts in the rails and i don't think you will ever have a problem with alignment.
100SteveB Good idea rounding the corners off with a file or dremmel, I will do that. I will be fixing the ends of the track down so that they won’t move but at this stage I just wanted to see if the idea worked - which obviously it does. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Its hardy a 80ton loco your sticking on your base boards Graham! even on the O gauge is not rely heavy. Good on you, and like a few others who watch you, you have put a grin on my face.
vince halls Vince, if I have managed to put a smile on your face then my job is done - that’s what this hobby is all about - having fun! 😄. Cheers for now buddy. ...........Graham
Graham, it worked for you so you proved them wrong. Do let them grind you down. Nice setup on the lift up section. As usual, you always put extra built-in safety measures. Very methodical. Keep going, Nick
Nigel Carter Thanks Nick ( I have always called you Nigel. 😄). Yes, I’m very pleased with this lift up section, it has worked out well and I don’t think I will have any problems with it once I have finished it off completely. Cheers for now. ..........Graham
Ending myself at the rolling stock weight test 😂😂. Nothing like a quality bit of sarcasm! Build looks awesome and I was waiting to see how you would do the lift up section. Great job 👍
Not a Railway man.But I Love my modelling .You are doing a excellent job thanks for the video.👍🇬🇧 Love the mod video take me back to the 60/70s George in Stoke.
GEORGE IKIN You are exactly the same as me George, I’m afraid I know very little about trains but I do love my modelling so thank you for the kind comment including the comment on the Mod video - just reliving my youth a little ! 👍. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Hi Graham, please can you confirm if there was a problem at the lift up session when you added the underlay. I have a lift up section similar to you and it works very well but I awaiting underlay. Also what are the clasps called and where did you get them? You are a true inspiration to us newbies, glad to see you don't let the over dramatic detractors get you down, thank you
Steff Hi Steff and thank you for your kind comment. The only thing I had to do was to raise the height of the hinges to the height of the underlay which was not a problem, it’s just so you don’t end up with clashing the rails when it’s lifted up but that’s all I had to do. I got the over-centre clasps from Amazon - link here: www.amazon.co.uk/PCS-Pingranso-Pull-Latch-Adjustable/dp/B075S7CSTG/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=R9BWPP7HK0X10WFR2GKB Hope that helps mate. 👍🏻. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Hi Graham, i have been watching your videos for a couple of years. Im not normally one to comment, your using the same feet as i have, and you have attached them the same way as i have and may layout is an exhibition layout so it gets moved around quite a lot, I have no problems with them and they are still attached and working well after 6 years, it would seem to me that a lot of people dont know how to use these feet if there have having problems. Keep up the good work and i look forward to more videos from Lakeside
g00ner67 Well that is really reassuring to know mate so thank you for that and also thank you too for the comment - it’s greatly appreciated. Cheers for now. ............Graham
I think the feet are strong and suitable for the purpose... only think I recommend, by experience, is to use another nut on the inside of the U shape part. Although you have a climatized room... in time the nut you use to lock may get loosened.... but honestly I think that, the possibility of this event to occur is remote. You can use a lock-nut type nut, and it is a simple replacement. Looking forward to see the “start” of the track laying and scenery built up, Sir. It was a pleasure and many thanks for sharing...!
P Macedo Thank you for the comment - it’s greatly appreciated. I am sure that as time goes on then I will make certain modifications to the layout, if I find that the locknuts I used become loose then I can as you say, swap them out for lock nuts should that problem arise. Cheers for now. ..............Graham
Looks great Graham, from experience the reason for the brass screws is to solder the track to them, it helps align the track on the joints so your not relying on the plastic chairs alone. All you can do is see how you get on lifting the board up and down and monitor. You may also need to raise the hinges of the board to allow the tracks to clear when you lift it up and down. Again something to monitor. Nowt wrong with your feet tho they do the job you want them to. Andy
Andy Hudson Hi Andy, Yes I appreciate what the soldered screws were for but I think (know) that there is a better solution and I won’t be just relying on the plastic chairs on the sleepers - watch this space! 😉. The tracks do clear each other Andy, if they didn’t then the system would have failed which is why I said that the proof of concept passed, I may make a few minor alterations as I go on but they will be minor - I was hoping that this video showed that it worked, no binding of track at the hinge end and no derailments either, even at this early stage. I will be adding a cut off switch to automatically cut power once the section is raised as a safety measure. Cheers for now mate. .............Graham
Ha ha @3:05 you did exactly what i do when building things, i sit, lay or even walk on it to test it lol. Solid engineering as usual from you Graham and really enjoying the updates, have a great week now, cheers ken
yorkie pudd Thanks for the comment Ken and much appreciated mate. Well it all seems to work ok and does what I want it to do so I’m happy with it - the nice bit comes next, laying track which I love doing. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Oh dear I feel that you have too much free time LOL keep up the great work on you're layout Graham, bit of a shame overhere not done anything on the layout here hopefully in the summer brake .....Gr Fred
Fred.L Well being retired Fred then I do have a lot of free time and no boss (apart from the wife) to tell me what needs doing! Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Nice job Graham. You are making great progress, when you started this series the end of Dec I figured that basic construction would take 6-8 weeks to get to this point. Looking forward to the next update and "Keep Trolling the Trolls".
Kent Langham Thank you for the comment mate, I certainly thought that I would be longer on constructing the modules than it actually worked out to, I’m not complaining though! 👍. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Very nicely done Graham, all works fine! I love those little dowels too. Just be careful with the weight of the locos though - remember they can weigh as much as 500 grams! LOL🤣🤣🤣 At least you must have got a laugh out of some of the previous comments Graham LOL. Cheers mate, Dan
Looks much more practical than the original, think you’re going to be very happy with it :) I did like Mark’s raised hinges that change the origin of the lift, I’m no expert but do you risk crushing the track? Nice vid thanks very much
Hi Graham, I noticed that you put the hinges in with the pins on top so that you can get clearance on the rails when the section is lifted, you mentioned that you were going to put something under the tracks, if that hinders the track on the lift up section clearing the rails that are on the solid module how would you go about rectifying it? the reason I ask is that I hope to create something similar when we move house. Cheers Allan.
Hi Graham, Take no notice what other people have said about the adjustable feet you have used. They look fine to me and as you demonstrated in the video, they can take quite a lot of weight. The important thing is, if you are happy with them, that's all that matters. Now to the lift up section. I think you was wise to make it a lift up, rather than a drop down section and the way you have done is fine. Once you get those steel dowels in place, it ain't going nowhere. I will be facing the same situation, when I come to cross the doorway to my shed, which is 3ft. I want to have four tracks but incorporate a girder bridge to cross the gap. I thought I would have to use two double track bridges, until I found a four track girder bridge kit, made form 3mm laser cut MDF, 80cm long, which is just short of 3ft. You can see this bridge by copying and pasting the link on ebay. But you have made a good job of your lift up section and it will make getting in and out of the room, much easier than having to crawl underneath. When you are getting older like we are Graham, you have to take your limitations into consideration. lol. Laser Cut OO Gauge Four Track Model Railway Girder Bridge Kit 3mm MDF 80cms Long Regards Geoff
Ooh, that bridge sounds awesome Geoff, really like the sound of that! I was discounting having a bridge there where my lift up section is as I just fancied something different rather than a bridge so I though I would disguise it as just still part of the normal layout. Sounds good though. I will look at this bridge more closely. Cheers for now mate. .........Graham
@@GrahamFoulston If you look at all the photos of the bridge kit, you can see that he has made a mistake with the track centers, but he is going to rectify it. I am in no rush to buy the kit just yet, so by the time I do, he should have corrected the measurements. It does look a nice bridge though. Geoff
Once again, top job Graham. To all the adjustable foot haters, you were very polite indeed. Nothing wrong with what you have done in my hobbyist mind. Looking forward to you moving on to the next stage. Well done you...Cheers, Chris
CHRIS INDGE Thank you very much for you kind, supportive comment Chris, that is greatly appreciated. So onwards and upwards with the next job which will be some track laying I think but that will be after a bit of a break methinks - come back to it with fresh eyes. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Hi Graham, great progress and nice to see you have managed to come up with a solution for the lift up section. I don't think you will have any issues with the track crossing the board breaks once its all glued down and ballasted providing you don't catch it with anything, if you do want to give it a little extra support knock in a brass pin and solder the track to that. For what they are supporting those feet will never shear off and are more than enough for what you are using them for, take it from a mechanical engineer 👍 As always I will be waiting with anticipation for the next installment.
Reddington I like the idea of that brass pin for extra support for the rails but as you say, once it is glued down and ballasted then there really shouldn’t be a problem. Cheers for now mate. .........Graham
The feet don't sheer and the lifting section lifts perfectly. I will be waiting for some track. Perhaps in the future, we will be treated to one of your fabulous music videos. Later on, Rob
Rob McCrain Thank you very much Rob, it would be great to be able to do another music video but I think that might be a little way off at the moment but it will happen within the next few months for sure although you might have to use some imagination at times! 😄. Cheers for now mate. ..........Graham
You sat on it - end of story! How many 20 stone station buildings are Hornby making these days? Careful with all that 2mm static grass though. That stuff adds up ye know. ;-)
R0lica 😂😂😂. I think I am going to have to use a maximum of 6mm static grass and just lay it down without the glue just to save on the weight ! Cheers for now mate. .........Graham
Graham .... I really enjoy your videos, very imformative... love what you have done so far ... I wouldn't worry about the feet mate ..use what you think works. As a novice to this hobby. which of course you are CLEARLY not .... I find it infurating that there is alway someone who is such is a bloody expert ...!! nice work and thanks
Steve Yates Hi Steve and I couldn’t agree more with you. All I can keep saying to folk is that what you see just works, from the so called forbidden use of MDF to the unstable adjustable feet. If anything at all fails then I will be the first one to own up and say I was wrong but until then I will carry on doing my own thing. 😄. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Gracious me! Idiots arrive on Lakeside! Whatever YOU decide is YOUR decision. By all means advise or suggest but please do not criticise Graham for his decisions. He does his modelling and these videos for his and our enjoyment. Some may remember we lost him for a while before and I for one certainly don't want to lose him again. Lakeside is one of the best model railway channels on You Tube hosted by a hugely amicable gentleman and long may it remain so. To the progress itself Graham, it seems to be going very well. I wonder though had you thought of rebating the hinges inside the ends thus leaving just the ridge of the hinge showing? All very nice and it will no doubt be a great help..I certainly need to install one on Armathwaite. Keep up the good work!!! Cheers, Bob
The was the most polite way of saying b*ll*cks that I have ever heard, I am still chortling now lol. It all looks great big bruv, a nice break now and then you will be ready to work on your track plan and get some track down. The new Lakeside will be born.
TheDiomedef16 Thanks bruv, I did do three videos, the first was a complete rant, the second was slightly less so and I decided to go with the third which was I think still as effective and got the message home with a little tongue in cheek - much better I think. 😉. Yep, I need a break from this now and come back to it fresh by starting to lay some track down - that’s the nice part! 😄. Cheers for now buddy. ..........Graham
Well played on the sitting on your benchwork. There's always going to be haters. Neat idea using the adjustable feet for levelling the lift out section.
Hi Graham.... Well done on your new layout... looking forward to more updates... Don't worry about what others think on the construction techniques of YOUR layout !. Whichever adjustable feet/ lift up section/ track joints you use is your choice. Personally I would build first ... film later... You enjoy yourself , after all it is a hobby Regards Nigel at West Hatton model railway
I quite agree with Robs Trains comments. If you were going to drag the modules across the carpet or jump up and down on them then maybe you'd have problems. But as long as they are just sitting (or is it standing when you're talking about feet?) there they are under very little stress. As long as your solid lead rolling stock isn't all in the one place!!! ;-) Very simple solution to the lift up section and with all the location devices you are installing I can't foresee any problems. That's it cursed then!!! Cheers
davie maclean Yes Davie, those solid lead rolling stock I have can be a real bugger sometimes! 😂😂. I don’t think even your curse could fail that lift up section now mate - it’s all done and dusted. 👍. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Loved your very polite way of saying your talking rubbish, about the adjustable feet, and the way I prefer works ok. Your now at one of the exciting parts of building a new layout, I think, a blank canvas. Looking forward to seeing it progress. I was surprised at one thing though Graham, your raised flap, I was always told you had to have raised hinges so that the rails did not catch on each other, on the ridge side, as the flap is lifted. It obviously works the way you have done it, so thats another theory out the window. Robin
Nice job done Graham. I’m assuming the hinges are counter sunk into the base board top ? You could hide the hinges by a lift off embankment with a viaduct over bridge, perhaps supporting a road.. I don’t think that would look out of place and could be built quite sturdy to enable on and off movement. I just admit I don’t like to see brass screws or copper clad arrangements at baseboard joints, totally unrealistic. Carry on with the great work, I look forward to future episodes as the layout evolves. Clive.
Clive briggs Thank you Clive, the hinges at the moment are not countersunk but that doesn’t mean they won’t be. 😉. As long as the centre pin of the hinge is below the level of the rail then the rails won’t bind or collide with each other. There are many ways I can hide the hinges up at a later stage so they don’t worry me. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Andy's trains and more Thank you Andy and I hope by now that you that is exactly what I shall be doing - doing it my way and if it doesn’t work then I will do it again until it does work. 😉. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
I haven't been reading other peoples comments on these videos but it's obvious that your choice of adjust able feet is an issue with some people. What you have chosen and fitted are perfectly viable for the layout you are building. Keep calm and carry on Graham, you're doing a great job. David.
David Atkins Many thanks David, I am calm mate and no worries, I will carry on in my own sweet way doing what I have always done - doing what I want to do. 😉. Cheers for now mate. .........Graham
Hi Graham, A good video, I like the way you've done your lift up section, I take it there will be some kind of cut off when you lay your track just In case you forget to close it. May I ask does the track on the lift up section clear the track on the main board?
Jetmec Yes mate, there will be a cut off of the power once the track is properly laid and yes, the track on the lift up section just clears the main track on the other side of the hinge, the centre of the pin of the hinge is about 3mm higher than the track to stop the two from binding when raised. Hope that helps. Cheers for now. ..........Graham
hi graham wow great progress on the new layout please ignore the no it alls looks fantastic mate lift up section is the best ive seen cheers mick and brenda
mrweaverman1 Many thanks Nick and Brenda for the kind comment, I’m more than pleased with all what I have done so far including the MDF baseboards and the sub standard adjustable feet! 😂😂. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Not sure if those feet will hold up with the weight of all your rolling stock. lol You are building a model railroad not a dance floor. Even if the screws do come out you could just replace them with a bold and you still not have an issue with them. With the benchwork going around the round, it sure makes a big difference from the old layout.
Scott Downey Thanks very much Scott and that’s why all my stock is on the floor - just in case ! 😂😂. This layout with the way it’s configured will be so much more user friendly for me and will also open up many more areas for new camera angles too. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Oh god Graham, Ido hope you have factored in the impact that the weight of the track pins will have on those unstable adjustable feet! Seriously though, I Must agree with Rob's Trains comment Re people like to fault find instead of praising people like yourself who show their efforts of for all to see and learn from. I love the fact that you have utilized the "outlawed" feet on the lift up section, ingenious as it gives you a great way to adjust the height to get it spot on. Well done and thanks for sharing your project.
Nick Hale Thank you very much Nick for those kind words, they are greatly appreciated but I have to admit that I completely forgot about those blessed track pins - now what am I going to do? I did factor in the static grass and PVA glue to be used though ! 😄👍. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Forget about the debate on the ajustable feet Graham they are fine. I was wondering about the hinges? Could you locate them beneath the boards? Just a thought mate.
Mark Franks Hi Mark and thanks for the comment and yes, the feet are fine. If I put the hinges underneath then how would I open it upwards? Just a thought. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
@@GrahamFoulston I Graham put the hinges between the boards if you counter sink the hinges they shouldn't protrude. I have not explained that at all well. Between the board adjoining the lift up board.
Great to see how you have done the lift up, this is what I will be struggling with so am pleased to see some ideas working. And amazing that you are going over the joint at an angle without issue. I do hope my question about the feet did not spark the debate that has clearly upset you? :(
It took me a little while to design and work out the lift up section but I got there in the end. No, you didn’t upset me at all mate re the feet but after the amount of critical comments i had regarding what I had used from people who had obviously never used them let alone seen them and (b) were working shear forces out of the screws used just got me to give my reply which I think I have the right to and as I said in the video, there is such a vast amount of differing designs and styles out there then it doesn’t matter what I have used - it’s what suits you or any other person who is thinking of using adjustable feet to find the correct version that suits you or others. So no worries, you didn’t upset me and I am perfectly happy with what I have used as you could tell from the video. 😉. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Great video Graham, really impressed with the lift up section, simple and logical solution, great use of the feet for the lift up section support, again, simple! Think you deserve more than a week away but don’t leave it to long, can’t wait to see track laying, have you made any track plans or are you going to lay as you go? Cheers
sam deacon Thank you very much Sam, keeping it simple this time round is the main theme for this layout - much less chance of things going wrong and hopefully reliable running which to me is really important. I may do some little jobs on the layout this week like those dowels but nothing major. I need to order some things for the next stage which will be the track laying but I’m in no rush. Cheers for now mate. .............Graham
Lovin the lift up section Graham. No messing about. What did you cut the track with?. Love your reply to the folks who make such an issue with regards adjustable feet!. Cheers.
Dave Henshaw Hi Dave, I just used a dremmel for cutting the track, I will make a neater job of the cuts when I come to do the real thing. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Spent my working life with folk saying “Ah yes, but, the only problem with that is..........”. Well, I won’t type my thoughts but, I’m sure you can imagine. However, if you mention something I’m thinking about already I’ll leave it at that, otherwise I’ll send a note via other means. Looking great! Cheers, Bob
all look good. it your layout and you build it how you want. The only problem is that this layout will be better than mine haha. just messing around lol :)
Pieter Hartman None whatsoever, the rails clear with no issues, that’s why I wanted this to be a proof of concept before I went ahead, had they touched when the section was lifted then the section would not have lifted up. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
@@GrahamFoulston I am glad to hear that the theory and practice are different. Good that you tried it. Other wise you could have used an elevated hinge. (just put them on an elevation of wooden blocks.)
It does not matter which feet you use fitted on the side or direct into the bottom, All that matters is the strength of the foot, Unfortunately for some people they are not happy unless they are moaning or putting your work down, They are just trolls after attention with nothing better to do. Oh by the way loving your build updates you really have made a great job of it all.
ROBS TRAINS Many thanks Rob and as I said in the video, I really don’t care what adjustable feet folk use - it’s entirely their choice but to tell me that the ones I have used will shear off the legs or the screws I have used will pull out is just plain not true. But they have a choice don’t they and that is not to use them, that’s fair enough - it doesn’t bother me one jot, I’m happy with my choice and that really is all what matters. Cheers for now mate. ........l.Graham
Some people are so negative and always looking for faults but remember they are experts - experts at at thinking they know all and criticising others!! I bet they are jealous and do not even have a good layout. If they are so smart why do they not have a channel to share their expertise. Take heart from all the people who like what you are doing. Graham I love your videos and always look forward to the next one and for the tips I can incorporate into my own layout. Remember there are more than one way to skin a cat so it really is what is best that suits each individual. Keep up the good work and to all the watchers - Graham is not telling us how things must be done, he is showing what he has decided suits him best and hopefully they may give us some good ideas. I see the likes far outnumber the don't likes - that speaks for its self!!.
Hi Graham Its all coming along well, what a great idea using the adjustable feet to support the lift up section. Looking forward to the next installment. All the best mate. Dave.
Tony H
Hi Graham. Like your lift up section. The metal parts are really good. I have a lift off but I spent some time to get it in the right position. Look forward to no. 5.
Looks fantastic Graham. Your lift up section is very well engineered. Enjoy your break from Lakeside and come back refreshed with ideas. Talking of ideas, seeing your lift up section made me think about the main tunnel on Hawthorn Valley. I had placed a hinged section over the tunnel for access to the upper tracks, but because of the shape of the cover, it fouled on one side, so I decided to cut the cover as a straight side and fill the remaining angled area with a fixed section. This now works OK.
Can't wait to see the tracks going down. Regards for now, ..... Ian
Hawthorn Valley Well your solution to the tunnel worked Ian so that’s all what matters, I’m sure some folk would have suggest many other ways of doing it but if you are happy with it and it works for you then that’s what it’s all about. Cheers for now mate. ...............Graham
Hello Graham!!! I've been away for a bit but back now and all caught up with your progress....It's looking GREAT! The modules are terrific...I can hardly wait to see Lakeside come back to life!!
Hi Graham not to pick fault I have done a very similar lift up section and I had nothing but problems after a while . I now use copper clad sleepers glued and pinned at any basebaurd joints I now have no problems what so ever
Once again Graham a job well done, will be very interested in how you cover the joins for the lift up and associated wirings. Your layout, your ideas equal your satisfaction at the end and that is all that matters. Cheers Robert Adelaide Aus.
Very cleverly engineered Graham. All most impressive - as are all of your projects. Can't wait for the next video and watching great progress.
Hi Graham . Progressing along nicely the lift up section seems to work well it is definitely strong enough I don't think you will have 11 stone of rolling stock and scenery on it (that's a lot of locos) . Looking forward to seeing some track going down .........Paul
I'm enjoying what you are doing and with regard to the feet....I liked them first time around and it has given me food for thought with regard to my layout......keep up the good work, you are inspiring me as I'm sure with others too.....looking forward to your next update......regards, Myles
Castle Junction Hi Myles and thank you for the comment. As I said in the video, there are so many variants of adjustable feet available for the legs that the choice is yours but I’m glad you like the ones I have used, they are fine and give me no issues whatsoever. I’m also pleased that I am inspiring you too, that’s great to know. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Wonder how some folks sleep at night!! Looking really good Graham. You have done a fine job and the lifting section looks totally functional especially with the addition of the dowels. Look forward to seeing progress over the coming months. Better get off to those household chores lol.
Murray Hall Hi Murray and I have just come in from installing the location dowels and it works a dream so that now completes the basic building of the lift up section, the next stage will hopefully be the laying of some track which is something I always enjoy doing so can’t wait to start that. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Well thats the most entertaining " how to " i`ve watched for a while. I`m still giggling about the bit where you went round checking the feet. Brilliant and well done.
Hi Graham. All looking good and nicely put together. My access setup is very similar except I have a lift-out section instead of a hinged lift-up. I also kept it simple and have no problems with derailments (on that section, at least!). One point I will make is that when you showed the dowels, you had the female section upside down I think. You'll notice one end of the female part is chamfered and I believe that makes getting it into the drilled hole in the wood just a little bit easier (I certainly found it was helpful when I used these). Maybe you already figured this out and were just showing the principle, but I thought it worth mentioning.
Steve Mercer Hi Steve and thanks for the comment. Yes I realise which way up the dowels should go, I was just holding them to the camera to show folk what they were like but thanks for the heads up because I could have put them in the wrong way up had I not known. Cheers for now. ..........Graham
You've really soldiered on with new lakeside Graham I'm in awe of what you've accomplished. Keep up the excellent work
Jamfield central Thanks mate - that’s really appreciated, thank you. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
Hi Graham,What a great job that you have done 10/10 I am looking forward to your next update it is just FAB what you have done so far,All the best,Jim.
I've been following the baseboard build with interest and good to see you have now completed the circuit. A very elegant and courteous response to the comments on ways of fitting the adjustable feet. Good that you can now focus on the building the layout. Stephen
Stephen Humphreys Thank you very much for the kind comment Stephen, it’s great appreciated mate, thank you. Cheers for now. ..............Graham
Brilliant Graham - don't let others get to you. This is still - and always will be - your layout. You just let us Watch. Do things your way - and no other way! All the very best, Chris
Mesnil Man They don’t get me down Chris, I still carry on in my own sweet way, I use what I feel suits my needs as regards the comments and then ignore the rest - simples! 😂. Cheers for now mate. .............Graham
Excellent work on those baseboards Graham. Loving the sass when talking about the adjustable feet. Funny stuff.
Don Antonio Many thanks Don and your comment is greatly appreciated mate - thank you. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Real nice work! Greetings from the Netherlands!
Graham you have done a great job on the boards, and the lifting section. We all have our own way of doing things, and as long as they work, so be it. keep up the good work, and look forward to the next video.
I have to admit, I love watching you prove your points. Had a good laugh! Personally you've done everything exactly how I plan to do mine. Take care! .......... Alan
Alan Bowers Excellent Alan and pleased that I made you laugh - in the words of Kenny Everett- all done in the best possible taste! 👍👍😄. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
nothing wrong with your way of doing the lift up panel,it works..and thats the main thing my friend..well done.
Nice video , I love the the loft out flap that looks great , the join is superb ! Well done
Amery Junction Thank you very much for the comment mate, it’s greatly appreciated. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Agree with many below Graham, all looks fab and keep up the great work. I follow with much interest from the Netherlands and look forward to when do finally return to UK in a year or so, and can crack on with my own layout best regards Ian Brunssum.
E Robinson Thank you for the kind comment Ian, really appreciate that mate. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Great job Graham looking well, just an aside could you put clip high up so that when you lift the track bed it locks in place. I am sure you've already thought about making the tracks dead when your lift up is up safety first Eh, Regards Alan
alan margalan Hi Alan, I have made a stop for the lift up section to lean up against when in the upright position and yes, I will install a micro switch to cut the power when the lift up section is raised so I don’t end up with a nasty accident. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
I love the solution for the swing out section. I think that your way of doing the track will be fine, without needing to resort to pc board ties, etc. Love to see the progress.
Looking forward to seeing the track down . Keep up the good work.
You are doing a great job. Well done. Looks really solid.
Tom O' Dowd Many thanks Tom, this layout is more solid than my previous layout that’s for sure. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Hey Graham, nice video of your layout. As Steve Brown says “Its my Railroad” and I’ll do what works and pleases me.
I admire the work you have done and the lift up looks and works great. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to seeing you progress on Lakeside. Have a great weekend and Cheers
👍👍👍😎😎😎 Cary
cbgadget Totally agree with what you said Cary, my time and money so my railway layout - end of. I have now installed the location dowels on the lift up section so it now closes and locates jus like it should so that’s another job I can tick off the to do list. 👍😉. Cheers for now mate. .............Graham
Hi Graham If I were you I would put some blocks of wood under the hinges of the lift section to give you clearance for the track ends to miss each other. Just a suggestion. keep up the geat work.
Bob Sims Hi Bob, at the moment there was no need to put any blocks under the hinges as the centre of the hinge pin is above the height of the track and so there was no binding of the track on the hinge side which is why I said that the proof of concept was approved - by me. However, if I decide to mount the track on cork or foam then I will need to raise the hinges by a fraction more than the thickness of the underlay. Hope that makes sense. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
well done graham on a job well done.
looking very good so far
Great feat of baseboard engineering enjoyed watching your recent work and look forward to further updates. Very statesman like intro about feet preferences as well.
Clive Bennett Thank you Clive for those kind words and so pleased you have enjoyed this so far. Cheers for now. .............Graham
Looking good. In my case my movable extension is held in place by G-clamps!
great video as usual graham i to would be most interested as to the connections ie the power flow as for the feet i have ordered some for my own rebuild and will be using them the same way as you with every confidence al the best al 😃👍
Layton Junction Thanks Al and you won’t be disappointed in the feet either - they work just fine!👍. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
Brilliant Graham, Great job, it`ll not be long before we see trains running full laps of the layout again. Enjoy your weekend
Regards
Kev. 😸
Graham, I used similar adjustable feet on my layout due to the garage floor sloping. The only difference is that mine came with a locking nut already fitted which was a great help. It has been in the garage for about 10 years now and the layout is still perfectly level. I added an L shaped branch extension a few years ago and that too has been 100% level and matched the original layout height perfectly. Keep up the good work & thanks for the videos :-)
Pat McDermott Well that’s really reassuring to know Pat, thanks for that, that’s really cheered me up to know that I have chosen the right adjustable legs for my layout - thanks for that mate and cheers for now. ............Graham
Thanks for this video. Great help for me to get an idea on how to build my lift out section. Would you mind telling me what and where you got your feet, over centre catches and locating lugs. Steve
it all looks good to me mate . i did a lift up on the layout i started in NZ and it worked fine for the few months i had it up and as for your feet they should be fine lol as long as they have a nice big long screw in them and not the tiny ones that sometimes come with that kind of thing from the hardware shop
nz mopar rebuilds Thanks buddy, I have used decent screws to bolt the feet to the leg which I hope I proved my point in the video by sitting on the baseboards and jumping up and down - they didn’t budge! 👍. Cheers for now mate. ..........Graham
Another great update and my goodness you have been busy! The adjustable feet use for the lifting section is a stroke of genius. Looks to be a solid section. Very well planned out. You will be running trains before you know it. Clint
Leila Central Many thanks Clint, yes I seemed to have finished this part of the build much quicker than I thought I would, laying some track next I think ! 👍. Cheers for now mate. ..........Graham
Great video, Graham. I hate to admit I enjoyed the cheekish snark about the legs. Silly for some to be so bothered. The screws you used can be weighted up to 100 lbs EACH, so your table legs were fine all along and you obviously know your way around wood and screws to bother with Johnny Knowitalls telling you how to build. ANYHOW, I love the entrance. I am REAL curious of how you solved the track joint on the hinge side. The group I last built one with had a removable joint track. You did not seem to do that. Thanks for the vid!
Anthony Dodge The Model Train Outsider Hi Anthony and glad you liked the entrance and the lift up section. I just made sure that the centre of the pin that goes through the hinges was 3mm above the track height, that way the two tracks do not hit or bind each other as the section is raised - hope that helps. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Ignore them all. Brilliant job. Cannot wait for your next update.
Martin Lawrence I do ignore them Martin but I just felt I needed to reply to them - in the most polite way of course! 😉. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
Wonderful progress, Graham. You have not hung around! All looks very sturdy to me, and i think you have proved that the feet will not be a problem at all. The only suggestion i would make regarding the feet is to do with the feet that you have used to level the opening section. Might be worthwhile running a file over the corners that stick out, just in case you catch your trousers or legs on them. But with regard the lift up section itself, nice simple idea. Glue the track down to the baseboard where you make the cuts in the rails and i don't think you will ever have a problem with alignment.
100SteveB Good idea rounding the corners off with a file or dremmel, I will do that. I will be fixing the ends of the track down so that they won’t move but at this stage I just wanted to see if the idea worked - which obviously it does. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Its hardy a 80ton loco your sticking on your base boards Graham! even on the O gauge is not rely heavy. Good on you, and like a few others who watch you, you have put a grin on my face.
vince halls Vince, if I have managed to put a smile on your face then my job is done - that’s what this hobby is all about - having fun! 😄. Cheers for now buddy. ...........Graham
Graham, it worked for you so you proved them wrong. Do let them grind you down. Nice setup on the lift up section. As usual, you always put extra built-in safety measures. Very methodical. Keep going, Nick
Nigel Carter Thanks Nick ( I have always called you Nigel. 😄). Yes, I’m very pleased with this lift up section, it has worked out well and I don’t think I will have any problems with it once I have finished it off completely. Cheers for now. ..........Graham
Ending myself at the rolling stock weight test 😂😂. Nothing like a quality bit of sarcasm! Build looks awesome and I was waiting to see how you would do the lift up section. Great job 👍
Awesome job Graham!! Just brilliant! Cheers Onno.
Onno Mulder Thank you very much for your kind comment Onno, that’s very kind of you. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Not a Railway man.But I Love my modelling .You are doing a excellent job thanks for the video.👍🇬🇧 Love the mod video take me back to the 60/70s George in Stoke.
GEORGE IKIN You are exactly the same as me George, I’m afraid I know very little about trains but I do love my modelling so thank you for the kind comment including the comment on the Mod video - just reliving my youth a little ! 👍. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Hi Graham, please can you confirm if there was a problem at the lift up session when you added the underlay. I have a lift up section similar to you and it works very well but I awaiting underlay. Also what are the clasps called and where did you get them? You are a true inspiration to us newbies, glad to see you don't let the over dramatic detractors get you down, thank you
Steff Hi Steff and thank you for your kind comment. The only thing I had to do was to raise the height of the hinges to the height of the underlay which was not a problem, it’s just so you don’t end up with clashing the rails when it’s lifted up but that’s all I had to do. I got the over-centre clasps from Amazon - link here: www.amazon.co.uk/PCS-Pingranso-Pull-Latch-Adjustable/dp/B075S7CSTG/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=R9BWPP7HK0X10WFR2GKB Hope that helps mate. 👍🏻. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Hi Graham, i have been watching your videos for a couple of years. Im not normally one to comment, your using the same feet as i have, and you have attached them the same way as i have and may layout is an exhibition layout so it gets moved around quite a lot, I have no problems with them and they are still attached and working well after 6 years, it would seem to me that a lot of people dont know how to use these feet if there have having problems. Keep up the good work and i look forward to more videos from Lakeside
g00ner67 Well that is really reassuring to know mate so thank you for that and also thank you too for the comment - it’s greatly appreciated. Cheers for now. ............Graham
I think the feet are strong and suitable for the purpose... only think I recommend, by experience, is to use another nut on the inside of the U shape part.
Although you have a climatized room... in time the nut you use to lock may get loosened.... but honestly I think that, the possibility of this event to occur is remote.
You can use a lock-nut type nut, and it is a simple replacement.
Looking forward to see the “start” of the track laying and scenery built up, Sir.
It was a pleasure and many thanks for sharing...!
P Macedo Thank you for the comment - it’s greatly appreciated. I am sure that as time goes on then I will make certain modifications to the layout, if I find that the locknuts I used become loose then I can as you say, swap them out for lock nuts should that problem arise. Cheers for now. ..............Graham
Looks great Graham, from experience the reason for the brass screws is to solder the track to them, it helps align the track on the joints so your not relying on the plastic chairs alone. All you can do is see how you get on lifting the board up and down and monitor. You may also need to raise the hinges of the board to allow the tracks to clear when you lift it up and down. Again something to monitor. Nowt wrong with your feet tho they do the job you want them to. Andy
Andy Hudson Hi Andy, Yes I appreciate what the soldered screws were for but I think (know) that there is a better solution and I won’t be just relying on the plastic chairs on the sleepers - watch this space! 😉. The tracks do clear each other Andy, if they didn’t then the system would have failed which is why I said that the proof of concept passed, I may make a few minor alterations as I go on but they will be minor - I was hoping that this video showed that it worked, no binding of track at the hinge end and no derailments either, even at this early stage. I will be adding a cut off switch to automatically cut power once the section is raised as a safety measure. Cheers for now mate. .............Graham
Ha ha @3:05 you did exactly what i do when building things, i sit, lay or even walk on it to test it lol. Solid engineering as usual from you Graham and really enjoying the updates, have a great week now, cheers ken
yorkie pudd Thanks for the comment Ken and much appreciated mate. Well it all seems to work ok and does what I want it to do so I’m happy with it - the nice bit comes next, laying track which I love doing. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Looks great Graham.
Oh dear I feel that you have too much free time LOL keep up the great work on you're layout Graham, bit of a shame overhere not done anything on the layout here hopefully in the summer brake .....Gr Fred
Fred.L Well being retired Fred then I do have a lot of free time and no boss (apart from the wife) to tell me what needs doing! Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Nice job Graham. You are making great progress, when you started this series the end of Dec I figured that basic construction would take 6-8 weeks to get to this point. Looking forward to the next update and "Keep Trolling the Trolls".
Kent Langham Thank you for the comment mate, I certainly thought that I would be longer on constructing the modules than it actually worked out to, I’m not complaining though! 👍. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Very nicely done Graham, all works fine! I love those little dowels too. Just be careful with the weight of the locos though - remember they can weigh as much as 500 grams! LOL🤣🤣🤣 At least you must have got a laugh out of some of the previous comments Graham LOL. Cheers mate, Dan
Dan Lawrie Thanks Dan and yes, I did have a few chuckles to myself I have to admit ! 😂😂. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Great video graham can't wait to see some track being layer down
David's Trains Well that’s the next major stage so it won’t be long coming I hope. Cheers for now. ............Graham
evening graham, looks like its going to be a great layout, all the best, stewart from woodfield junction
Stewart Barnard Many thanks for you comment Stewart, I really appreciate that - thank you. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Looks much more practical than the original, think you’re going to be very happy with it :)
I did like Mark’s raised hinges that change the origin of the lift, I’m no expert but do you risk crushing the track? Nice vid thanks very much
Hi Graham, I noticed that you put the hinges in with the pins on top so that you can get clearance on the rails when the section is lifted, you mentioned that you were going to put something under the tracks, if that hinders the track on the lift up section clearing the rails that are on the solid module how would you go about rectifying it? the reason I ask is that I hope to create something similar when we move house. Cheers Allan.
Hi Graham, Take no notice what other people have said about the adjustable feet you have used. They look fine to me and as you demonstrated in the video, they can take quite a lot of weight. The important thing is, if you are happy with them, that's all that matters. Now to the lift up section. I think you was wise to make it a lift up, rather than a drop down section and the way you have done is fine. Once you get those steel dowels in place, it ain't going nowhere. I will be facing the same situation, when I come to cross the doorway to my shed, which is 3ft. I want to have four tracks but incorporate a girder bridge to cross the gap. I thought I would have to use two double track bridges, until I found a four track girder bridge kit, made form 3mm laser cut MDF, 80cm long, which is just short of 3ft. You can see this bridge by copying and pasting the link on ebay.
But you have made a good job of your lift up section and it will make getting in and out of the room, much easier than having to crawl underneath. When you are getting older like we are Graham, you have to take your limitations into consideration. lol.
Laser Cut OO Gauge Four Track Model Railway Girder Bridge Kit 3mm MDF 80cms Long
Regards
Geoff
Ooh, that bridge sounds awesome Geoff, really like the sound of that! I was discounting having a bridge there where my lift up section is as I just fancied something different rather than a bridge so I though I would disguise it as just still part of the normal layout. Sounds good though. I will look at this bridge more closely. Cheers for now mate. .........Graham
@@GrahamFoulston If you look at all the photos of the bridge kit, you can see that he has made a mistake with the track centers, but he is going to rectify it. I am in no rush to buy the kit just yet, so by the time I do, he should have corrected the measurements. It does look a nice bridge though.
Geoff
Looking good keep up the good work
petrol head Thanks mate and much appreciated sir. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
Once again, top job Graham. To all the adjustable foot haters, you were very polite indeed. Nothing wrong with what you have done in my hobbyist mind. Looking forward to you moving on to the next stage. Well done you...Cheers, Chris
CHRIS INDGE Thank you very much for you kind, supportive comment Chris, that is greatly appreciated. So onwards and upwards with the next job which will be some track laying I think but that will be after a bit of a break methinks - come back to it with fresh eyes. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Love the layout update great video keep it up
mikey amazing trains Thank you Mikey and much appreciated. Cheers for now. ............Graham
when will you think your layout be done
Hi Graham, great progress and nice to see you have managed to come up with a solution for the lift up section. I don't think you will have any issues with the track crossing the board breaks once its all glued down and ballasted providing you don't catch it with anything, if you do want to give it a little extra support knock in a brass pin and solder the track to that. For what they are supporting those feet will never shear off and are more than enough for what you are using them for, take it from a mechanical engineer 👍 As always I will be waiting with anticipation for the next installment.
Reddington I like the idea of that brass pin for extra support for the rails but as you say, once it is glued down and ballasted then there really shouldn’t be a problem. Cheers for now mate. .........Graham
The feet don't sheer and the lifting section lifts perfectly. I will be waiting for some track. Perhaps in the future, we will be treated to one of your fabulous music videos. Later on, Rob
Rob McCrain Thank you very much Rob, it would be great to be able to do another music video but I think that might be a little way off at the moment but it will happen within the next few months for sure although you might have to use some imagination at times! 😄. Cheers for now mate. ..........Graham
Lakeside model railway We all stand ready with our imaginations ready to go. 😊
You sat on it - end of story! How many 20 stone station buildings are Hornby making these days? Careful with all that 2mm static grass though. That stuff adds up ye know. ;-)
R0lica 😂😂😂. I think I am going to have to use a maximum of 6mm static grass and just lay it down without the glue just to save on the weight ! Cheers for now mate. .........Graham
What's in the room at the end, can you still access that area?
Great progress
Another great update graham, keep going! Cheers Matt
Trent Valley Railway Many thanks Matt, really appreciate that mate, thank you. Cheers for now. .............Graham
Graham .... I really enjoy your videos, very imformative... love what you have done so far ... I wouldn't worry about the feet mate ..use what you think works. As a novice to this hobby. which of course you are CLEARLY not .... I find it infurating that there is alway someone who is such is a bloody expert ...!! nice work and thanks
Steve Yates Hi Steve and I couldn’t agree more with you. All I can keep saying to folk is that what you see just works, from the so called forbidden use of MDF to the unstable adjustable feet. If anything at all fails then I will be the first one to own up and say I was wrong but until then I will carry on doing my own thing. 😄. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Some people are so jealous and don't know what they are talking about loving the New layout Graham brilliant job
Strathmore Road junction Anthony Thanks Anthony and I couldn’t agree more with you mate. 👍. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
Ace, Graham. Great flap. Great legs. Stick to your guns. That's it. All the very best........Reinhard
letzterinstanz Many thanks for the comment Reinhard and yes - I will stick to my guns!👍. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Gracious me! Idiots arrive on Lakeside! Whatever YOU decide is YOUR decision. By all means advise or suggest but please do not criticise Graham for his decisions. He does his modelling and these videos for his and our enjoyment. Some may remember we lost him for a while before and I for one certainly don't want to lose him again. Lakeside is one of the best model railway channels on You Tube hosted by a hugely amicable gentleman and long may it remain so.
To the progress itself Graham, it seems to be going very well. I wonder though had you thought of rebating the hinges inside the ends thus leaving just the ridge of the hinge showing? All very nice and it will no doubt be a great help..I certainly need to install one on Armathwaite.
Keep up the good work!!!
Cheers, Bob
The was the most polite way of saying b*ll*cks that I have ever heard, I am still chortling now lol. It all looks great big bruv, a nice break now and then you will be ready to work on your track plan and get some track down. The new Lakeside will be born.
TheDiomedef16 Thanks bruv, I did do three videos, the first was a complete rant, the second was slightly less so and I decided to go with the third which was I think still as effective and got the message home with a little tongue in cheek - much better I think. 😉. Yep, I need a break from this now and come back to it fresh by starting to lay some track down - that’s the nice part! 😄. Cheers for now buddy. ..........Graham
Well played on the sitting on your benchwork. There's always going to be haters.
Neat idea using the adjustable feet for levelling the lift out section.
Hi Graham....
Well done on your new layout... looking forward to more updates...
Don't worry about what others think on the construction techniques of YOUR layout !. Whichever adjustable feet/ lift up section/ track joints you use is your choice.
Personally I would build first ... film later...
You enjoy yourself , after all it is a hobby
Regards Nigel at West Hatton model railway
West Hatton I couldn’t agree with you more Nigel and thanks for the comment, it’s greatly appreciated. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
I quite agree with Robs Trains comments. If you were going to drag the modules across the carpet or jump up and down on them then maybe you'd have problems. But as long as they are just sitting (or is it standing when you're talking about feet?) there they are under very little stress. As long as your solid lead rolling stock isn't all in the one place!!! ;-) Very simple solution to the lift up section and with all the location devices you are installing I can't foresee any problems. That's it cursed then!!! Cheers
davie maclean Yes Davie, those solid lead rolling stock I have can be a real bugger sometimes! 😂😂. I don’t think even your curse could fail that lift up section now mate - it’s all done and dusted. 👍. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Loved your very polite way of saying your talking rubbish, about the adjustable feet, and the way I prefer works ok. Your now at one of the exciting parts of building a new layout, I think, a blank canvas. Looking forward to seeing it progress. I was surprised at one thing though Graham, your raised flap, I was always told you had to have raised hinges so that the rails did not catch on each other, on the ridge side, as the flap is lifted. It obviously works the way you have done it, so thats another theory out the window.
Robin
I never knew adjustable feet could be so controversial! 😉
Great work the hatch, mate 👍🏻
Lakeside is looking good Graham foulston
glen tonkin Many thanks Glen and cheers for now. ............Graham
Nice job done Graham. I’m assuming the hinges are counter sunk into the base board top ? You could hide the hinges by a lift off embankment with a viaduct over bridge, perhaps supporting a road.. I don’t think that would look out of place and could be built quite sturdy to enable on and off movement. I just admit I don’t like to see brass screws or copper clad arrangements at baseboard joints, totally unrealistic. Carry on with the great work, I look forward to future episodes as the layout evolves. Clive.
Clive briggs Thank you Clive, the hinges at the moment are not countersunk but that doesn’t mean they won’t be. 😉. As long as the centre pin of the hinge is below the level of the rail then the rails won’t bind or collide with each other. There are many ways I can hide the hinges up at a later stage so they don’t worry me. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Quality work!
Just do it your way, and enjoy. Cheers Andy
Andy's trains and more Thank you Andy and I hope by now that you that is exactly what I shall be doing - doing it my way and if it doesn’t work then I will do it again until it does work. 😉. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
I haven't been reading other peoples comments on these videos but it's obvious that your choice of adjust able feet is an issue with some people. What you have chosen and fitted are perfectly viable for the layout you are building. Keep calm and carry on Graham, you're doing a great job. David.
David Atkins Many thanks David, I am calm mate and no worries, I will carry on in my own sweet way doing what I have always done - doing what I want to do. 😉. Cheers for now mate. .........Graham
Hi Graham, A good video, I like the way you've done your lift up section, I take it there will be some kind of cut off when you lay your track just In case you forget to close it. May I ask does the track on the lift up section clear the track on the main board?
Jetmec Yes mate, there will be a cut off of the power once the track is properly laid and yes, the track on the lift up section just clears the main track on the other side of the hinge, the centre of the pin of the hinge is about 3mm higher than the track to stop the two from binding when raised. Hope that helps. Cheers for now. ..........Graham
hi graham wow great progress on the new layout
please ignore the no it alls
looks fantastic mate lift up section is the best ive seen
cheers mick and brenda
mrweaverman1 Many thanks Nick and Brenda for the kind comment, I’m more than pleased with all what I have done so far including the MDF baseboards and the sub standard adjustable feet! 😂😂. Cheers for now. ............Graham
Not sure if those feet will hold up with the weight of all your rolling stock. lol You are building a model railroad not a dance floor. Even if the screws do come out you could just replace them with a bold and you still not have an issue with them. With the benchwork going around the round, it sure makes a big difference from the old layout.
Scott Downey Thanks very much Scott and that’s why all my stock is on the floor - just in case ! 😂😂. This layout with the way it’s configured will be so much more user friendly for me and will also open up many more areas for new camera angles too. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Oh god Graham, Ido hope you have factored in the impact that the weight of the track pins will have on those unstable adjustable feet! Seriously though, I Must agree with Rob's Trains comment Re people like to fault find instead of praising people like yourself who show their efforts of for all to see and learn from. I love the fact that you have utilized the "outlawed" feet on the lift up section, ingenious as it gives you a great way to adjust the height to get it spot on. Well done and thanks for sharing your project.
Nick Hale Thank you very much Nick for those kind words, they are greatly appreciated but I have to admit that I completely forgot about those blessed track pins - now what am I going to do? I did factor in the static grass and PVA glue to be used though ! 😄👍. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
I do like your style.
Forget about the debate on the ajustable feet Graham they are fine. I was wondering about the hinges? Could you locate them beneath the boards? Just a thought mate.
Mark Franks Hi Mark and thanks for the comment and yes, the feet are fine. If I put the hinges underneath then how would I open it upwards? Just a thought. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
@@GrahamFoulston I Graham put the hinges between the boards if you counter sink the hinges they shouldn't protrude. I have not explained that at all well. Between the board adjoining the lift up board.
Great to see how you have done the lift up, this is what I will be struggling with so am pleased to see some ideas working. And amazing that you are going over the joint at an angle without issue. I do hope my question about the feet did not spark the debate that has clearly upset you? :(
It took me a little while to design and work out the lift up section but I got there in the end. No, you didn’t upset me at all mate re the feet but after the amount of critical comments i had regarding what I had used from people who had obviously never used them let alone seen them and (b) were working shear forces out of the screws used just got me to give my reply which I think I have the right to and as I said in the video, there is such a vast amount of differing designs and styles out there then it doesn’t matter what I have used - it’s what suits you or any other person who is thinking of using adjustable feet to find the correct version that suits you or others. So no worries, you didn’t upset me and I am perfectly happy with what I have used as you could tell from the video. 😉. Cheers for now mate. ...........Graham
Hi Graham, Brilliant work as always .Oh i did laugh .There,s always going to be some nit pickers !!
Great video Graham, really impressed with the lift up section, simple and logical solution, great use of the feet for the lift up section support, again, simple!
Think you deserve more than a week away but don’t leave it to long, can’t wait to see track laying, have you made any track plans or are you going to lay as you go?
Cheers
sam deacon Thank you very much Sam, keeping it simple this time round is the main theme for this layout - much less chance of things going wrong and hopefully reliable running which to me is really important. I may do some little jobs on the layout this week like those dowels but nothing major. I need to order some things for the next stage which will be the track laying but I’m in no rush. Cheers for now mate. .............Graham
Lovin the lift up section Graham. No messing about. What did you cut the track with?. Love your reply to the folks who make such an issue with regards adjustable feet!. Cheers.
Dave Henshaw Hi Dave, I just used a dremmel for cutting the track, I will make a neater job of the cuts when I come to do the real thing. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Spent my working life with folk saying “Ah yes, but, the only problem with that is..........”. Well, I won’t type my thoughts but, I’m sure you can imagine. However, if you mention something I’m thinking about already I’ll leave it at that, otherwise I’ll send a note via other means.
Looking great! Cheers, Bob
Graham? Did you order the smoke units for the Big Boy.😂😂👍
james Nooooooooo ! 😂😂. Thanks for reminding me yet again Jim, where would I be without you buddy. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
Very good job
all look good. it your layout and you build it how you want. The only problem is that this layout will be better than mine haha. just messing around lol :)
matt slade Thanks for the comment Matt, your layout is fabulous mate, no worries. Cheers for now. ...........Graham
Great piece of work done.👍 Don’t you have problems with the track end rubbing against each other on the side of the hinges?
Pieter Hartman None whatsoever, the rails clear with no issues, that’s why I wanted this to be a proof of concept before I went ahead, had they touched when the section was lifted then the section would not have lifted up. Cheers for now mate. ............Graham
@@GrahamFoulston I am glad to hear that the theory and practice are different. Good that you tried it. Other wise you could have used an elevated hinge. (just put them on an elevation of wooden blocks.)