This is the Champion edition, not championship series as I say repeatedly 🤯 . The champion edition also comes with peek motor screws which will save about .4 grams. Democracy manifest video - th-cam.com/video/PeihcfYft9w/w-d-xo.html
These are basically the same thing as the 65 air, but the motors have bearings and peek screws, so added weight of bearing motors is cancelled out by the addition of peek screws. The colors look very happymodel-esque, which I preferred BetaFPV colors, but maybe a white frame with blue motor 😊. Race spec is still killing it in the track and flight times.
Kinda fun to have a "Limited" edition. Love seeing you rip around the kitchen island. Looks slick, from your video, flies great and takes a hit. Also I feel old seeing that video when it first came out, and I remember Encylopedia Britacina!
That Camera is really good for analog! Great Video! Not got into 1s yet. So far 2s & 4s for me! Getting ready to get the new Hdzero eco bump the motors up so I can run 2s also! Thanks
Such a great time for whoops! By the way I just want take the opportunity to thank you for promoting and sponsoring RaceGOW. After watching your video I decided to try racing for the first time and I'm having a lot of fun, I also WON the very first Nick Burns cash giveaway for season 3 :)
Ya, as soon as the company put some kind of limitations on availability, in general, people want what we may not be able to have, i think the word is spoiled. 😊😊😊
Head up, your audio still fades in and out during your videos. Ive tested it on my home tv, smart phone, iPad, wife’s phone, work computer and more. My testing tells me that it isn’t on my end. Anyone else experience this? By the way, you are the best Nick! You are truly the FPV dad we all need.
If I had to guess this product exists because of left over parts or simply not having all the exact parts they wanted, but have parts that work. We're in a components crisis big time and if you have a thousand units of "close enough" you need to shift -- and now -- then you do stuff like this.
Another awesome video, and awesome whoop! 🛸 Quick question! What’s that red wire on it? Is that to replace the ceramic antenna? I’m asking because I’ve damaged the ceramic antenna on my mob 8 and hear it can be replaced with a bit of wire, which I think looks like the one on this champion edition…. Thanks. Top job!
That is the receiver antenna. It can be replace with wire. It needs to be a specific length, I think it was like 13.8mm, but I could be wrong on that length.
@ multi meter to find the ground pads, and solder to the ungrounded one OR trace the antenna out by looking for the antenna tuner components OR ask for help if you don’t know this stuff… I’ll check mine if you want
@@steriospeaker using the first method with the X12 board oriented with the 4 antenna pads at the bottom closest to you... top right, bottom left, and bottom right are ground. So by this method top left is the correct pad. By the second method, we can clearly see the third pin on the ELRS chip going to the little silver and white component (antenna fine tuner) which then goes to the top left pad. Hope you now learned how to do this yourself, and pass the knowledge on to others.
Nick, did you notice any impact on flight duration when using 25mw vs 400mw? This question applies to any of the air series, not just the champion edition. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
No. The power consumption of the vtx from power level to power level can be measured but not noticed or really measured when flying, no. It’s so nominal the number of turns one makes or the speed we fly or tricks we do have a greater impact than running the vtx at the various power levels
Can you please upload the BetaFPV Dump somewhere. I am building the Air65 champion myself. Bought the Fc only. And I would really like to have the PIDs of the champion edition that is for the 5in1 FC. Would be awesome if you could do that :D
The cli dump is already publicly available on the betafpv website. support.betafpv.com/hc/en-us/articles/39169016329369-CLI-and-Firmware-for-Air65-Champion This is typical for 90%+ of quads.
Nick, I have no experience with Tinywhoops. So I have several questions about exclusively indoors flying: 1) would you recommend the newly released 5 in 1 AIO based Betafpv Air65 or meteor75 pro like whoop for indoors flying? 2) should I expect a dramatically better video quality from hdzero compared to analog for indoors (not plenty of light) flying with tinywhoop? 3) is the increased weight and decreased maneurability of hdzero based tinywhoop justified/compensated by increased video quality and (possibly) decreased latency over analog ones? 3) does it make sense to put increased weight hdzero Lux camera because of its significantly better video quality? Or lighter hdzero Eco camera gives the same quality taking into account simplified (not MIPI) interface which is used on hdzero tinywhoop AIO module? Will be gratefull to hear your and your subscribers' opinions. Thanks in advance
Nick I really hope you get the gep rc t-18 cube 2s version and 1s what da hey lol and rip em because I'm very interested in this little quad I have been loving how 3.5 quads fly....and sub250 helps alot😊🤞🏻 I do need a couple new whoops though😁
Curious if your wife has seen what you crash into when she's not around. Haha Regarding 1000 piece run, first off... Marketing! LoL. Also, sometimes in the chip world when you're building boards you may only be able to get 1000 of a particular component, then you know "something" will have to change after that run. Doubtful for what they are doing but I've run into it in my industry.
The 4in1 v1.0 board is banned. This I know for certain. The v1.1 and 5in1 were supposed to be good, but I don’t know. Would be nice to hear from a few different regions/clubs.
I. Just talk to the f p v store near me in atlanta georgia and they're saying that they're not going to make another one of these and I just bought that hummingbird racing spec and it's not okay.
Why are we doing a review on this. I'm hearing that they're never gonna make another one at all. That means only very few people, given the fact that the population of the world is like 19 times more than it was in 1985. Is there any way they're gonna bring this air 65 champion bat? Because I bought the hummingbird race bag new one and it has some sketchy modifications. Those sotterings on those motors are so tiny. It's ridiculous, but this champion's got to go fat sautters which of course, I could change that myself but I don't think that hummingbird really thought this through and maybe. Better FPV with the champion, thought it through and was like.Well.Let's just make this many of them.See what it does because we really aren't there yet.With flight controllers to be able to truly handle 30000 kvs.Because it seems that the main issue with these specific racespec They're not distributing the power properly from the motors. And it has something to do with the batteries for sure. Not that there's something wrong with the batteries. You're using, but there's an issue with how it's processing power with the 30000k VS. I just don't think we're quite there yet. But I do know there's quite a few people who can make this work for sure. And not much different than. The one. We're watching right now
This is the Champion edition, not championship series as I say repeatedly 🤯 . The champion edition also comes with peek motor screws which will save about .4 grams.
Democracy manifest video - th-cam.com/video/PeihcfYft9w/w-d-xo.html
@@NickBurnsFPV he said you are waiting to receive my limp penis sir 😂😂😂😂
My favorite TH-camr I appreciate your videos, man. I started FPV because of watching your videos. Appreciate the best hobby in the world
Ditto!
Fantastic flying and review, Nick!!! 😃
Those little quads are getting better and better! It's really impressive!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
These are basically the same thing as the 65 air, but the motors have bearings and peek screws, so added weight of bearing motors is cancelled out by the addition of peek screws. The colors look very happymodel-esque, which I preferred BetaFPV colors, but maybe a white frame with blue motor 😊. Race spec is still killing it in the track and flight times.
I always look toward to your reviews! Always appreciate your fair and honest reviews.
uuuhi i cant wait for it t o arrive i have the F and R and they are my FAVORITE drones by far! no nazghul, no avata2 brings this much fun!
i got the new meteor 75 pro, it also has the 5 in 1and the glue on the rf connector, i was glad they addressed that as i was about to add some myself
Awesome review, Nick! Cancelled my order for the champion series, rather stick with the lighter Air65 racing.
I've been waiting for you to post this!! Thanks
Kinda fun to have a "Limited" edition. Love seeing you rip around the kitchen island. Looks slick, from your video, flies great and takes a hit. Also I feel old seeing that video when it first came out, and I remember Encylopedia Britacina!
Took those stairs at Mach 10 on that second run 😂🤣
That Camera is really good for analog! Great Video! Not got into 1s yet. So far 2s & 4s for me! Getting ready to get the new Hdzero eco bump the motors up so I can run 2s also! Thanks
I was already waiting for your video :D Finally
You were zooming!!! Looks so fun!!!
Amazing little drone!
Such a great time for whoops!
By the way I just want take the opportunity to thank you for promoting and sponsoring RaceGOW.
After watching your video I decided to try racing for the first time and I'm having a lot of fun, I also WON the very first Nick Burns cash giveaway for season 3 :)
awesome!! Thanks for letting me know.
Nice review 👌.. I only fly whoops to love them 1&2s that's it for me...
BetaFPV also ships the regular Air65 with the 5in1 now 👍
interesting, the site still lists the 4in1 with the freestyle and race.
@ BetaFPV has always been slow to update their site if they do it at all. I know a couple of people who got an Air65 with the 5in1.
Have you ever broken any house decor from crashing inside?
What video system is this air champion series?
Video system is analog. I haven’t broken anything but have knocked a picture off the wall and the corner of the frame got a bit damaged
Ya, as soon as the company put some kind of limitations on availability, in general, people want what we may not be able to have, i think the word is spoiled. 😊😊😊
mental marketing :)
Hi ,Nick could you do a longe range review on this mini whoop ,is nice to see how far away can go !
Sorry no. Not a legally advisable thing to do.
@@NickBurnsFPV this is a very respectable response, I recommend most people to stay on their property or use a spotter to go farther
Head up, your audio still fades in and out during your videos. Ive tested it on my home tv, smart phone, iPad, wife’s phone, work computer and more. My testing tells me that it isn’t on my end. Anyone else experience this?
By the way, you are the best Nick! You are truly the FPV dad we all need.
It’s a constant battle with this mic
Would be very nice if you can get your hands on an rf meter for future reviews 😄
I have been trying for more than a year.
Woot! My names Nick too !! Rookie
If I had to guess this product exists because of left over parts or simply not having all the exact parts they wanted, but have parts that work. We're in a components crisis big time and if you have a thousand units of "close enough" you need to shift -- and now -- then you do stuff like this.
Nice review. I wait for outdoor playing, but it just indoor
Did you say it has the o3 air unit in it
No this is analog
Another awesome video, and awesome whoop! 🛸
Quick question! What’s that red wire on it? Is that to replace the ceramic antenna?
I’m asking because I’ve damaged the ceramic antenna on my mob 8 and hear it can be replaced with a bit of wire, which I think looks like the one on this champion edition….
Thanks. Top job!
That is the receiver antenna. It can be replace with wire. It needs to be a specific length, I think it was like 13.8mm, but I could be wrong on that length.
28 - 31mm is the wire length you are looking for.
I replace all ceramic antennas with enamel wire by default.
@ how do you know which of the 4 pads to solder to?
@
multi meter to find the ground pads, and solder to the ungrounded one
OR
trace the antenna out by looking for the antenna tuner components
OR
ask for help if you don’t know this stuff… I’ll check mine if you want
@@steriospeaker using the first method with the X12 board oriented with the 4 antenna pads at the bottom closest to you... top right, bottom left, and bottom right are ground. So by this method top left is the correct pad.
By the second method, we can clearly see the third pin on the ELRS chip going to the little silver and white component (antenna fine tuner) which then goes to the top left pad.
Hope you now learned how to do this yourself, and pass the knowledge on to others.
Nick, did you notice any impact on flight duration when using 25mw vs 400mw? This question applies to any of the air series, not just the champion edition. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
No. The power consumption of the vtx from power level to power level can be measured but not noticed or really measured when flying, no. It’s so nominal the number of turns one makes or the speed we fly or tricks we do have a greater impact than running the vtx at the various power levels
Can you please upload the BetaFPV Dump somewhere. I am building the Air65 champion myself. Bought the Fc only. And I would really like to have the PIDs of the champion edition that is for the 5in1 FC. Would be awesome if you could do that :D
The cli dump is already publicly available on the betafpv website. support.betafpv.com/hc/en-us/articles/39169016329369-CLI-and-Firmware-for-Air65-Champion This is typical for 90%+ of quads.
KEEP IT UP! love your contet!
Nick, I have no experience with Tinywhoops. So I have several questions about exclusively indoors flying:
1) would you recommend the newly released 5 in 1 AIO based Betafpv Air65 or meteor75 pro like whoop for indoors flying?
2) should I expect a dramatically better video quality from hdzero compared to analog for indoors (not plenty of light) flying with tinywhoop?
3) is the increased weight and decreased maneurability of hdzero based tinywhoop justified/compensated by increased video quality and (possibly) decreased latency over analog ones?
3) does it make sense to put increased weight hdzero Lux camera because of its significantly better video quality? Or lighter hdzero Eco camera gives the same quality taking into account simplified (not MIPI) interface which is used on hdzero tinywhoop AIO module?
Will be gratefull to hear your and your subscribers' opinions. Thanks in advance
Nick I really hope you get the gep rc t-18 cube 2s version and 1s what da hey lol and rip em because I'm very interested in this little quad I have been loving how 3.5 quads fly....and sub250 helps alot😊🤞🏻 I do need a couple new whoops though😁
I am told geprc is sending the cube. It ill be some weeks yet before I have a video.
May I be lazy and someone please tell me the difference in flight time between this and the freestyle version?
Curious if your wife has seen what you crash into when she's not around. Haha
Regarding 1000 piece run, first off... Marketing! LoL. Also, sometimes in the chip world when you're building boards you may only be able to get 1000 of a particular component, then you know "something" will have to change after that run. Doubtful for what they are doing but I've run into it in my industry.
She doesn't watch, she gets bad motion sickness. I guess good for me he?
They were sold out yesterday
First affiliate link purchase. Let’s see if I’m a champion
Ahhh yes, I see that you know your Judo well...
Sold out! 😆 😂
I love that video too. Haha good stuff thanks for that.
How to get that single piece ?
best to start by reaching out to betafpv. I have never seen them for sale.
No batteries charged Mr Burns...I hold you to a Greater standard than us mortal viewers. Or...Or you are Human?!🤣🤣
Ha! I do sometimes forget to charge. Yes mortal and forgetful
One thing to note is, these are not great for races. The vtx on 4in1 and 5in1 is apparently causing issues for other racers
The 4in1 v1.0 board is banned. This I know for certain.
The v1.1 and 5in1 were supposed to be good, but I don’t know. Would be nice to hear from a few different regions/clubs.
No stickerzzzzzz?? 😢
Mean mean flier !
I gotta say top shelf videos and reviews . Thank you
i wanna scream haduken every time i hear someone says this model name
I.
Just talk to the f p v store near me in atlanta georgia and they're saying that they're not going to make another one of these and I just bought that hummingbird racing spec and it's not okay.
@@lynarddoby2539 sorry to hear. ya f NBD
Ta ta and farewell
Indeed 😁
FYI you are getting some audio clipping on the low end when you stop talking. You get an abrupt silence between breaths.
thirdd
Why are we doing a review on this. I'm hearing that they're never gonna make another one at all. That means only very few people, given the fact that the population of the world is like 19 times more than it was in 1985. Is there any way they're gonna bring this air 65 champion bat? Because I bought the hummingbird race bag new one and it has some sketchy modifications. Those sotterings on those motors are so tiny. It's ridiculous, but this champion's got to go fat sautters which of course, I could change that myself but I don't think that hummingbird really thought this through and maybe. Better FPV with the champion, thought it through and was like.Well.Let's just make this many of them.See what it does because we really aren't there yet.With flight controllers to be able to truly handle 30000 kvs.Because it seems that the main issue with these specific racespec They're not distributing the power properly from the motors. And it has something to do with the batteries for sure. Not that there's something wrong with the batteries. You're using, but there's an issue with how it's processing power with the 30000k VS. I just don't think we're quite there yet. But I do know there's quite a few people who can make this work for sure. And not much different than. The one.
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