Mtb pricing is out of control... I learned this after walking in to a moto shop. Everything in there was less cash than a bike shop. Helmets, jerseys, dirt bikes, and pads... hell even the tires were about the same price as a maxxis.
100% agree! I went to a motorcycle shop in San Antonio when I was visiting family, and this shop also sells Specialized Ebikes. Asked the sales guy if they sell a lot of those and he laughed and said no. He couldn't believe how expensive they are compared to a dirt bike, and I told him a lot of analog bikes are more expensive than certain dirt bikes lol. It was a fun topic to discuss with a motorcycle person.
Great review! I have the Krumbien gravel tires on my gravel bike.. 2300 miles on them probably 75% of that is on pavement rather than true gravel. Even with the aggressive tread they have held up great. I just rotated them like 300 miles ago! If I do a gravel race or serious ride, I'll switch to the new pair waiting in the wings, but for training and road rides they still look/ride great. I agree.. they seated easily for me... they far outperform my Panaracer Gravel Kings that I had on prior.. I have not had any issues with sealant weeping.. nor with small punctures from gravel/rocks. In 2300 miles I have 1 puncture. I rode over a 3" long screw that got stuck in the tire.. no tire would survive that. After getting it pulled at the LBS, and riding home with a bacon-strip patch.. I replaced that with two doses from my Dart.. and the tire has been fine. Awesome value in my opinion.... I am considering them for my trail bike so was pleased with your review. I may have to give them a try!
I've seen these advertised. I tell you what..maybe I'm just old, but paying as much for mtn bike tires as I do for my armada tires seems crazy. I will give them a try.
haha nah you're not old as I often think the same thing about a car tire roughly being $100. They support thousands of pounds and reach speeds a bicycle isn't capable of. Of course a specialized off road tire for trucks is more expensive than a road going tire, but still makes me think about the rising price of bicycle tires.
It’s Mauka (Maw-kah, like NOW-duh) and it means Mountain in Hawaiian. Great video. Informative. Good observations. Exactly what I’d expected. I like people who dig up the value-priced gems instead of flexing a name brand (like everyone else). Thank you. And nice that you take a serious approach to a real issue in the bike world (ridiculous prices for everything), but don’t take yourself too seriously.👍😉
It'll be interesting to see what long term durability looks like. Tires do get expensive so a solid, lower cost option would be nice especially for a back up bikem
Looked at backcountry (aka competitive cyclist) and minion dhf is on sale for $84. Looked on my Walmart app and the recommended Goodyear tires for my car (a Prius) are $91. 😬 ouch.
Saw these on pink bike, definitely an inviting price point! Thanks for giving us a look at em! I do need to say though, it's a bit of an odd choice to put those tires on a hard tail to ride largely xc trails. I would have rather seen the downcountry tire on that bike then popped the assagai/dhr knock offs on a bigger bike to test performance in steeper terrain, something more in line with the tire's intentions. Not sure this tells me much about these tires really.
The downcountry one wasn't in stock at the time when I bought these. Unfortunately I don't have a ton of steep sketchy terrain where I live, and this bike came spec'd with the Minion/Aggressor so these tires aren't a huge change from those. The tech trails at Coler I rode are certainly a bit nastier than an XC trail and these tires didn't fail, so was happy with those results.
I don t get how come maxxis tires are so expensive in US.. 95$ ?? In europe I never payed more than 55$ on maxxis.. even 2.8 wide 3c are around 60-65$... And there are often discounts wihich I always use.... Strange....
Another great video and informative Kyle. Good for another option on tires and great price. I’m trying out the new continental kryptotal currently maybe I’ll give these a try next.
Great video! Spot on regarding Maxxis tire prices. It’s been very challenging to find real world options for replacement tires. Fingers crossed that these hold up in the long term. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!
Hey Carl! Can't believe it's been that long. Hoping to get back at it soon. Had a head injury, busy season at work, and a laundry list of other excuses haha. Glad to hear people are craving new content!
Yeah the Mauka was my first choice for rear tire. I saw Bikepacking.com recently did a review on the Mauka, and they had very positive things to say about it.
comparing times on set of different tires in this fashion is quite misleading, especially that 1 second. That could have been anything... you feeling tired, a sudden small breeze in your favor, an extra pebble or two you rolled over (or didn't roll over). Even the 5 seconds is misleading. Hell, I could prob burp and fart and gain or lose a second or two. Still, interesting video cuz now I want to see what these tires are about.... especially if I can save 1/2 the cost.
Add a Hawaiian shirt and you could play a Magnum P.I. in a foreign knockoff.... I looked at these on Amazon myself because like you, I don't have the budget to be spending $100 a tire. I may see about ordering a set.
@@CobraKyle 🤣🤣 Kind of a bummer, I couldn't find an American Classic tire in 27.5+ on Amazon. I have not torn a sidewall, but a set of Maxxis Rekon+ tires I had, the outer knobs were literally non-existent after about 3 months. I am currently running a set of Vittoria Martello 27.5 x 2.8's and after one year of riding, no flats, one tiny puncture the sealant took care of, and the only issue (if you can call it one), are that the gray sidewalls are scuffed ALOT. I ride more tech/natural terrain, not into machine built trails, even though I did enjoy the Back 40 w/ the Ledges
I have tried their gravel tires and they have been really solid. I can imagine the Mtn tires are really nice too. So this is what I have been doing with my recent tire purchases. #1 I rarely buy Maxxis anymore, unless they at a serious discount like 40% off. #2 I look at other brands that often go on sale. Kenda,Conti,Schwalbe and Victoria. I actually just bought some Teravail 50% off and some Schwalbe at 30% off. Let’s be rear. We rarely need a specific tire urgently and can afford to wait and save or buy and store till you need them. Just my thoughts, especially now when the bicycle industry is starting to collapse.
Maybe these tyres were designed like a tyre for tubes, with non tubeless tyres the bead usually is looser and wants to go to the centre of the rim. so maybe they did a mistake.
@@CobraKyle I think it's tubeless tyre but molded into a shape of a tube tyre or the this specific rim and tyre combo is tricky. did you try it on multiple rims?
Just bought a mountain bike with tubeless ready rims. I have 2 questions. How are they holding up? And what is the difference between the Trail and Enduro versions of the tire?
I had similar situation with the beading. Had to go use the gas station air pump, then had to go to a different gas station where the pump had more pressure… but similarly, once they popped onto the bead they stayed and didn’t deflate overnight. I ran them tubeless with Stan’s sealant. It’s super leafy where Im at right now, but these things can really keep up. I’m crazy and like to hit some dumb jumps and drops on my trails, so I’m running them at max 50 PSI and having fun.
They've been great. I've had no punctures, they hold air, and still have a good amount of tread. I haven't been riding on them a ton in the winter, but I'm liking these tires.
in the Philippines .. maxxis tires only cost 32 - 40usd... 40usd for the 3c max terra version so much difference in prices schwalbe & michelin do have the same us pricings here
Thank you for this review. My Maxxis DHF only lasted 4 months on local trails (Bidwell Park, Nor Cal). With these tires being half the cost of the Maxxis I will be ordering a pair soon. Nice to have a budget friendly option.
Thanks for watching. They are still holding up nicely! They are on my new hardtail which I don't ride constantly, but they are great tires in my opinion.
Only time I have got maxxis tires was on sale. Recently got some kenda's and vittorias on sale. I probably won't ever run american classic tires since I have 26 stuff. Would be neat to have american classic tires on my american classic wheels.
The new Kenda pro tires are amazingly fast, but do lack the grip of other brands. I had American Classic on my do-it-all gravel bike and they were surprisingly fast and just plain awesome. But for some strange reason they smelled like a horse barn. Weird
Once again, great vid. Need more content my friend.
Thanks dude! I don't know why I'm so slow at making videos haha
Keep. Up the good work. In the future, be careful with editing to let us read the slides with letters.
Keep strong.
Mtb pricing is out of control... I learned this after walking in to a moto shop. Everything in there was less cash than a bike shop. Helmets, jerseys, dirt bikes, and pads... hell even the tires were about the same price as a maxxis.
100% agree! I went to a motorcycle shop in San Antonio when I was visiting family, and this shop also sells Specialized Ebikes. Asked the sales guy if they sell a lot of those and he laughed and said no. He couldn't believe how expensive they are compared to a dirt bike, and I told him a lot of analog bikes are more expensive than certain dirt bikes lol. It was a fun topic to discuss with a motorcycle person.
Now you have a killer mustashe, will the mullet be following shortly?
I love the fast paced intro!
Great review! I have the Krumbien gravel tires on my gravel bike.. 2300 miles on them probably 75% of that is on pavement rather than true gravel. Even with the aggressive tread they have held up great. I just rotated them like 300 miles ago! If I do a gravel race or serious ride, I'll switch to the new pair waiting in the wings, but for training and road rides they still look/ride great.
I agree.. they seated easily for me... they far outperform my Panaracer Gravel Kings that I had on prior.. I have not had any issues with sealant weeping.. nor with small punctures from gravel/rocks. In 2300 miles I have 1 puncture. I rode over a 3" long screw that got stuck in the tire.. no tire would survive that.
After getting it pulled at the LBS, and riding home with a bacon-strip patch.. I replaced that with two doses from my Dart.. and the tire has been fine.
Awesome value in my opinion.... I am considering them for my trail bike so was pleased with your review. I may have to give them a try!
Just ordered these brand of tires! Very excited to try them out!
Oh neat. I run DHR2 and Dissector on my AM bike and these look like they could be a viable replacement.
Absolutely! For the price it was hard not to give them a chance. Hoping they hold up!
I kinda like continental tires, sometimes found for under 40$ on Amazon. Not sure about long term durability yet.
So… how are they holding up long term? Curious about your gravel tires too.
When bicycle tyres start getting closer to or the same price as a car tyre, its time to look for alternatives.
I've seen these advertised. I tell you what..maybe I'm just old, but paying as much for mtn bike tires as I do for my armada tires seems crazy. I will give them a try.
haha nah you're not old as I often think the same thing about a car tire roughly being $100. They support thousands of pounds and reach speeds a bicycle isn't capable of. Of course a specialized off road tire for trucks is more expensive than a road going tire, but still makes me think about the rising price of bicycle tires.
I’ve been looking at these, but more interested in a faster setup. Thinking Mauka in the rear. What would you suggest for the front?
what's the update? Shame the rear specific and downcountry tire don't come in a 2.5 option cause that would be excellent on my bike.
I did read on the amazon page that they are extremely difficult to get onto the rim. Did you have that issue as well?
I had a little bit of trouble putting on rim, but wasn't super difficult. Pumping them up was the real challenge lol
Yo Kyle you postin any more vids its been 6 months
Curious as if the extra grip and slowing down more than expected is from you going from 2.2 to 2.4 wider tyres is more weight and grab area
Shame these tyres are not sold in the UK!
yeesh and i though 35 euro for conti protections was steep
Do they not make a 27.5 range of tires?
They do! The 3 "Nite" tires are also offered in a 27.5". The Downcountry tire is 29" only.
Interesting. I'm assuming it's the same brand that makes wheels? Would be interesting to see how long the compound holds up.
It sure is! Looks like they are coming out with new wheels for MTB soon. I'm really hoping these tires last cause so far they've been pretty rad.
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@@CobraKyle 💯❤
Another great option for budget tires is from Delium tires. I run them on my bike and have had no issues.
It’s Mauka (Maw-kah, like NOW-duh) and it means Mountain in Hawaiian. Great video. Informative. Good observations. Exactly what I’d expected. I like people who dig up the value-priced gems instead of flexing a name brand (like everyone else). Thank you. And nice that you take a serious approach to a real issue in the bike world (ridiculous prices for everything), but don’t take yourself too seriously.👍😉
It'll be interesting to see what long term durability looks like. Tires do get expensive so a solid, lower cost option would be nice especially for a back up bikem
Yeah I'm really hoping these last! Guess I gotta ride the hardtail more now haha
any update ot on the longevity?
Looked at backcountry (aka competitive cyclist) and minion dhf is on sale for $84. Looked on my Walmart app and the recommended Goodyear tires for my car (a Prius) are $91. 😬 ouch.
Great video and thank you for putting it together. Do you have any updates on the durability of these American Classic tires?
Bring out the Maxxis fanboys! Nice video, man. Pretty interesting time results.
The wave of hate is nearing!
Saw these on pink bike, definitely an inviting price point! Thanks for giving us a look at em! I do need to say though, it's a bit of an odd choice to put those tires on a hard tail to ride largely xc trails. I would have rather seen the downcountry tire on that bike then popped the assagai/dhr knock offs on a bigger bike to test performance in steeper terrain, something more in line with the tire's intentions. Not sure this tells me much about these tires really.
The downcountry one wasn't in stock at the time when I bought these. Unfortunately I don't have a ton of steep sketchy terrain where I live, and this bike came spec'd with the Minion/Aggressor so these tires aren't a huge change from those. The tech trails at Coler I rode are certainly a bit nastier than an XC trail and these tires didn't fail, so was happy with those results.
Was that puncture shot meant for me.
Tires are too expensive in the US.
Great review 🐍
I just got me some bontragers for 26 each. 29 ×2. For my hard tail. Now I got to get out and test em. Wish me luck
How’d they go and which ones did you get?
I don t get how come maxxis tires are so expensive in US.. 95$ ?? In europe I never payed more than 55$ on maxxis.. even 2.8 wide 3c are around 60-65$... And there are often discounts wihich I always use.... Strange....
very swag
Another great video and informative Kyle. Good for another option on tires and great price. I’m trying out the new continental kryptotal currently maybe I’ll give these a try next.
Thanks for the video Kyle. Glad to see you're doing well
It's not bad
What the hell is on your face? Quick! Squish it!
That thing on my face is my ticket to a successful modeling career lol
@@CobraKyle in 1974 porn. Just kidding 😂
Great video! Spot on regarding Maxxis tire prices. It’s been very challenging to find real world options for replacement tires. Fingers crossed that these hold up in the long term. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!
I was just looking at these and I was wondering the same thing how they'd line up with the others. Thanks this video is great!
Man that looks like an Assegai on the rear
this was such a helpful video!! Thank you so much, just ordered a pair of vulcanite tires
Don't forget their replacement program. A tear or unrepairable puncture gets a one time replacement 50% off.
Another excellent point for this brand!
U can find a maxxis tire on sale for around that price
Yeah sometimes you can, but when you can't...now you have an alternative!
hellllooooo? Where's that fresh Cobra Kyle content we've all grown to know and love? 3 months man!
Hey Carl! Can't believe it's been that long. Hoping to get back at it soon. Had a head injury, busy season at work, and a laundry list of other excuses haha. Glad to hear people are craving new content!
@@CobraKyle Head injury? Scary stuff man. Take your time, and get healed up.
Thanks for sharing this with us. I may be placing an order.
Looks like Delium Tires
How wide are your rims
It can be hard to put on new tires??!! Huh, i didn't even know that was even possible. Great video btw. Keep on slithering Cobra
lol I'm always slithering!
@@CobraKyle hehe 👍 thanks for the reply. Just an idea, but why not do a video on why it's a bit of a pain to fit those tires?
Always nice to have more tire options, going to try out the Mauka when they get some in stock
Yeah the Mauka was my first choice for rear tire. I saw Bikepacking.com recently did a review on the Mauka, and they had very positive things to say about it.
Dude I’ve been buying used tires for years because of price but I’ll probably try these out! I mean I’m paying almost that much for a used maxxis
I've actually got my Maxxis tires listed for $50 a piece currently haha.
comparing times on set of different tires in this fashion is quite misleading, especially that 1 second. That could have been anything... you feeling tired, a sudden small breeze in your favor, an extra pebble or two you rolled over (or didn't roll over). Even the 5 seconds is misleading. Hell, I could prob burp and fart and gain or lose a second or two. Still, interesting video cuz now I want to see what these tires are about.... especially if I can save 1/2 the cost.
Add a Hawaiian shirt and you could play a Magnum P.I. in a foreign knockoff....
I looked at these on Amazon myself because like you, I don't have the budget to be spending $100 a tire. I may see about ordering a set.
lol I could be "Dom Telleck". It especially sucks buying an expensive tire and tearing it after a couple rides. It's happened to us all!
@@CobraKyle 🤣🤣
Kind of a bummer, I couldn't find an American Classic tire in 27.5+ on Amazon.
I have not torn a sidewall, but a set of Maxxis Rekon+ tires I had, the outer knobs were literally non-existent after about 3 months. I am currently running a set of Vittoria Martello 27.5 x 2.8's and after one year of riding, no flats, one tiny puncture the sealant took care of, and the only issue (if you can call it one), are that the gray sidewalls are scuffed ALOT. I ride more tech/natural terrain, not into machine built trails, even though I did enjoy the Back 40 w/ the Ledges
I have tried their gravel tires and they have been really solid. I can imagine the Mtn tires are really nice too. So this is what I have been doing with my recent tire purchases. #1 I rarely buy Maxxis anymore, unless they at a serious discount like 40% off. #2 I look at other brands that often go on sale. Kenda,Conti,Schwalbe and Victoria. I actually just bought some Teravail 50% off and some Schwalbe at 30% off. Let’s be rear. We rarely need a specific tire urgently and can afford to wait and save or buy and store till you need them. Just my thoughts, especially now when the bicycle industry is starting to collapse.
Nice review. With the sidewall pattern and naming style they remind me of the new Continental tires.
I was kind of thinking that too! Continental is one brand I have yet to try. I've been on a quest to try different brands.
Maybe these tyres were designed like a tyre for tubes, with non tubeless tyres the bead usually is looser and wants to go to the centre of the rim. so maybe they did a mistake.
All the info on their site says tubeless ready. Not sure why it was so difficult to seat.
@@CobraKyle I think it's tubeless tyre but molded into a shape of a tube tyre or the this specific rim and tyre combo is tricky. did you try it on multiple rims?
Just bought a mountain bike with tubeless ready rims. I have 2 questions. How are they holding up? And what is the difference between the Trail and Enduro versions of the tire?
I had similar situation with the beading. Had to go use the gas station air pump, then had to go to a different gas station where the pump had more pressure… but similarly, once they popped onto the bead they stayed and didn’t deflate overnight. I ran them tubeless with Stan’s sealant.
It’s super leafy where Im at right now, but these things can really keep up. I’m crazy and like to hit some dumb jumps and drops on my trails, so I’m running them at max 50 PSI and having fun.
Any updates on the tire @cobrakyle ? I think I might need to replace my WTBs that are on my Salsa Timberjack - these look like a fantastic option
So durability, how did they hold up?
They've been great. I've had no punctures, they hold air, and still have a good amount of tread. I haven't been riding on them a ton in the winter, but I'm liking these tires.
in the Philippines .. maxxis tires only cost 32 - 40usd... 40usd for the 3c max terra version
so much difference in prices
schwalbe & michelin do have the same us pricings here
Thank you for this review. My Maxxis DHF only lasted 4 months on local trails (Bidwell Park, Nor Cal). With these tires being half the cost of the Maxxis I will be ordering a pair soon. Nice to have a budget friendly option.
Thanks for watching. They are still holding up nicely! They are on my new hardtail which I don't ride constantly, but they are great tires in my opinion.
Only time I have got maxxis tires was on sale. Recently got some kenda's and vittorias on sale. I probably won't ever run american classic tires since I have 26 stuff. Would be neat to have american classic tires on my american classic wheels.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE SOME MORE CONTENT FROM THE COBRA!!!
the real question: can maxxis compete with continental..
Very true! I have the Kryptotal's on a new bike, and they've been awesome so far.
@@CobraKyle price is great, too. i just got a Enduro casing Xynotal for a park bike... $55
Where have you been, Kyle? Hope all is well.
Paying nearly £100 for 1 tyre is madness it’s £50 average for maxxis tyres in uk
Mauka. Say mouth and swap the th for a kah sound
Any update in regards these tires durability?
I use Kenda and WTB. They’re awsome.
I love Kenda! Just got a new pair in the mail today for a different bike!
The new Kenda pro tires are amazingly fast, but do lack the grip of other brands. I had American Classic on my do-it-all gravel bike and they were surprisingly fast and just plain awesome. But for some strange reason they smelled like a horse barn. Weird
Can we get an update on wear?
Delium tire please
What size rim did you put those on?
It's a 29" wheel with a 30mm internal width.