Differences Yamaha WR450F VS Fantic XEF450

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
  • I have the chance to have in the workshop the 2022 Yamaha WR450F and Fantic XEF450 so I thought it could be useful to make a comparison video. Since I tested both bikes on track and currently developing components for them, this is the perfect moment to showcase what differs between the 2 since they share the same engine and frame but feel like different bikes to ride. If you are in doubt on which to buy I hope this video can be useful.
    #WR450F #XEF450 #enduro
    Filmed with: Canon R6 + 24-70 F2.8
    Edited in: Premiere Pro
    Editor: Giacomo Lucchese

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  • @pirata6556
    @pirata6556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I own a fantic xef 450 bought this year 2022 and I find it more interesting than the WR I had last year. Much more exciting for technical enduro.

    • @darksid356
      @darksid356 ปีที่แล้ว

      What makes it more interesting than the WR?

  • @mikeshakespeare7294
    @mikeshakespeare7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looking forward to the Fantic Rally bike. It will be interesting to hear your thoughts on it.

    • @Thejumelot
      @Thejumelot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have it, not so impressed. Good chassis. Engine a bit lazy in low revs. Lots of issues with the stuff Fantic added to the excellent Yam base. Love the chassis and suspensions though. Also, very noisy, impossible on the road.

    • @janhenrikrustad8888
      @janhenrikrustad8888 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Thejumelot So you have the XEF450 Rally? Long story short, as there is realy "no options" I am considering this bike, as the only real choice for a lightweight enduro/adventure-bike that can both stand bad trails/roads and be a good friend for 200-350km long adventure days.
      Would you build your own with a KTM EXC base instead, if you could do it all over?

    • @Thejumelot
      @Thejumelot 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@janhenrikrustad8888 The base is excellent. I own this bike for over a year now and have done lots of mods. Basically, I find the additions to the WRF by Fantic to be under-engineered and making the great WRF unreliable. Once you solve those issues, you have a great rally bike with a superb chassis, a strong engine, big tanks and a beautiful Italian design. In short, I have managed to solve the reliability issues caused by the Italians on the rock solid WRF and enjoy their rally package. I must highlight mine was one of the first bikes so it probably had all the child diseases and the dealer network was totally clueless on how to solve them (had/managed to talk direct to the factory to get some satisfactory inputs after going through 3 "official" dealers and wasting months).

  • @valerio-andrej
    @valerio-andrej 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For sure i have fun watcing your video, i was planning to buy WR450 and im curious about homologation in Germany, as you said its arout 1000€, i would like to know what exactly i need to do. Thanks.

    • @matjazogorevc9804
      @matjazogorevc9804 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is my question also, author can answer on private.

    • @lolghost9042
      @lolghost9042 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I’m late but, in Italy if you wanna buy a “illegal street bike “ such as the Wr, you can but it’s annoying cause you can’t ride in street so you have to go to this company called “ va racing “ if I’m not mistaken and they will watch if the bike has the requirements to stay on street like for example “ blinkers” and than they omologate it for you. The price rise if you don’t have the blinkers or mirrors and they had to add it for you. So if I were you I’d go on the Fantic cause is very similar to the Wr and legal in Europe.
      Hope I helped you and sorry for any English error.

    • @matjazogorevc9804
      @matjazogorevc9804 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lolghost9042 thanks for the answer. I think that blinkers, mirror etc. is not a problem. EURO4 is a problem. How do you homologate that? Best regards, Matjaž

  • @jayfrancis1429
    @jayfrancis1429 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive got the fantic xe125 2022 model i love it, but honestly cant wait to upgrade for the xe 300 that should be coming out this year hopefully !!!

  • @shmuel202
    @shmuel202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, great video❤

  • @bazza8947
    @bazza8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can buy the WR road legal from Yamaha here in Australia.

    • @ManuelLucchese1
      @ManuelLucchese1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      unfortunately in Europe since 2019 they don't get homologated anymore "officially" but we found a way around it but it costs about 1.000 euro extra

    • @bazza8947
      @bazza8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ManuelLucchese1 heard you mention that. Was just replying about Australia since you said you weren’t sure. I quite like the look of the Fantic!

    • @matjazogorevc9804
      @matjazogorevc9804 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManuelLucchese1 could you get more info on that topic. I am in slovenia and it is an interesting topic.

  • @tomchan2901
    @tomchan2901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Since the Yamaha ECU is smoother than the Fantic ECU, and since the Fantic is much more (my opinion) attractive than the Yamaha, is it possible to purchase a Yamaha Factory ECU, and install it into the Fantic?

    • @ManuelLucchese1
      @ManuelLucchese1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately it is not possible as Fantic has a completely different wiring harness and so you are unable to plug in the Yamaha ECU, I wish too it was compatible

  • @6Twisted
    @6Twisted ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm back after 5 months on my Fantic 250 looking for an upgrade (specifically better suspension) 😂 The XE 450 is such a good looking bike I'd never want to take it offroad and ruin it.

  • @diogocouto1610
    @diogocouto1610 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ciao Manuel, thanks a lot for the review! You made me buy a fantic! 😂 I had a ims oversize tank for a WR but I was not able to fit it on the fantic. Do you know if the subframe is different from the WR? Thanks

    • @ManuelLucchese1
      @ManuelLucchese1  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s impossible the tanks fit also on the Fantic, the only difference is the shroud that you may need to put the WR shroud also. Be sure you have the year correct as Fantic is identical as the WR 2019-2022 so only parts for these year models fit on the fantic

    • @diogocouto1610
      @diogocouto1610 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ManuelLucchese1thank you for confirming it! Maybe I cannot fit it because of the reiger rear shock that I have installed. It seems that the the shock might hit the fuel pump. I have put the wr plastics on it.

  • @lotharkolberg2933
    @lotharkolberg2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, great comparison

  • @nrc658
    @nrc658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yamaha WR450F THE BEST

  • @jovannino99
    @jovannino99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello , is it , more or less, the same for WR250F model ? If you will use it also on single track extreme paths what do you suggest ? 4 strokes has always a ON OFF feeling and in technical and difficult situation it's a bit tricky. I ride usally with all other guys that use 300cc 2 Strokes and the difference is relevant.

  • @jetdr
    @jetdr ปีที่แล้ว

    Biggest difference for me, availability! Can't find a Fantic within 500 Miles of where I live. As far as Grips, I change all mine to ODI Lock on as soon as I bring the bike home.

  • @ferusct
    @ferusct 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ciao Manuel, ottima descrizione dei due modelli. Ho in mente di sostituire il mio WR My 2014 e penso che prenderò sempre una Yamaha. Io organizzo da molti anni viaggi turistici nel deserto in Tunisia e penso che per questo lavoro il WR sia più adatto. Saluti

  • @robsonenduro3316
    @robsonenduro3316 ปีที่แล้ว

    How hard is get wr450F homologated? you need to get blinkers, plate holder etc I guess...but wr is probably euro4 not euro5 rated, Or maybe I can order from you rally version already homologated :)

  • @nickovdub6131
    @nickovdub6131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I buy fantic plastics in the US?

  • @KOLFINNAx86
    @KOLFINNAx86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do fantic and yamaha share the same fuel tank?

  • @6Twisted
    @6Twisted 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a Fantic 250 and the seat is awful. I have to take a break every 20 mins.

    • @ManuelLucchese1
      @ManuelLucchese1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      From Rebel X you can get the rally seat cover which is way more comfortable. Just select the one for the Yamaha WR as it’s the same seat

  • @gabrielkopp2036
    @gabrielkopp2036 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the price of the fantic? Are they available in the US

  • @MatthewBrigham-1
    @MatthewBrigham-1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ciao Manuel. I’m moving from the US to Italy and I’ve heard I cannot bring my WR250R. Do you have a recommendation for a good dual sport in Italy? Fantic…or something else? Grazie!

    • @michele1342000
      @michele1342000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Beta rr 480/500/430

    • @swissjanu3455
      @swissjanu3455 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michele1342000 nah man fantic is way better

  • @helderneves91
    @helderneves91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did you give a call to the god father of plates? hahaha :D

  • @noelapat4320
    @noelapat4320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dream bike

  • @erick5327
    @erick5327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job

  • @swissjanu3455
    @swissjanu3455 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like the fantic light mask way more 😂😂

  • @อนุกูลวงษ์จันทรา

    FC. From Thailand ♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @godhandCoL
    @godhandCoL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    quando saranno disponibili in italia?

  • @mxriderdakar
    @mxriderdakar ปีที่แล้ว

    If i am not wrong, there are no Fantic in the USA. That was a Yamaha condition to Fantic.

    • @briangc1972
      @briangc1972 ปีที่แล้ว

      I googled the importer. He has a website with a couple used dirt bikes for sale. He is just some yoyo who has no money to import anything. These manufacturers should require the importer to buy 10 or 15 motorcycles immediately to establish the business. Some yahoo just sitting on the import contract does no one any good.

  • @Canoneosmiami
    @Canoneosmiami ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the chances the frantic it’s gonna be sold in usa ?

    • @briangc1972
      @briangc1972 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slim to none. I googled the importer. He has a website with a couple used dirt bikes for sale. He is just some yoyo who has no money to import anything. These manufacturers should require the importer to buy 10 or 15 motorcycles immediately to establish the business. Some yahoo just sitting on the import contract does no one any good.

  • @riccardobindolini3351
    @riccardobindolini3351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ma anche i 250 hanno le stesse differenze come sui 450?

  • @DRZE666
    @DRZE666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantic is Street legal !!!

  • @dinidini1225
    @dinidini1225 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantic sm 125 vs yamaha wr125 🤣

  • @bobbysmoke6.4dzl94
    @bobbysmoke6.4dzl94 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the Fantiha…can I get it in the US?

  • @pietrocusin3769
    @pietrocusin3769 ปีที่แล้ว

    Un servizio in lingua italiana no vero?? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️👎👎👎

  • @michaeldoyle2725
    @michaeldoyle2725 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just brought a 2023 wr 450 it was the last one in my state. Any mods I should do

  • @michaeldoyle2725
    @michaeldoyle2725 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were can you buy fantic at ????