@@cupiowaffles I'm not sure, really, but there's a few different ways it could go; - Wilson takes a certain amount of damage (possibly relevant to how many materials used?). - The research station explodes, but you still get the item. - The materials explode, no item gained. - A silly animation plays where Wilson has to wipe off the soot on his outfit from the explosion, and crafts the item anyway.
Wilson is op. his nerf would be that if he stands within 2 tiles of another survivor (minus WX) they are wowed by his amazing knowledge and attempt to kill him for his power.
@@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA A mech balloon with rapid fire attack that deal 0.01 damage and heal them 0.02 hp. I am coping that Klei implement things that are in their short animations.
Wes nerf - Making balloons is more expensive due to the dwindling supply of Earth's helium. WX-78 nerf - Holding ice or blue gems will passively increase wetness despite any clothing, due to the condensation forming on the cold surfaces. Maxwell buff - He can do a little magic show if he has a top hat and rabbit, which gives an instant sanity boost to any nearby "children" characters. Only works once a day.
I feel like the magic show shouldn't just be limited to children. Also, maybe instead of an instant sanity buff, it could give sanity overtime similarly to Walter's campfire stories.
Once During a full moon warly has a chance to remember his grandma, start panicking and loosing sanity, since he doesn’t really need a nerf we could make the chances of this happening so rare it’s more of an Easter egg then a hindrance, as in the chances are 1/100percent rare
Honestly, Walter needs a way to gather marble easy. Like if you feed big Woby some monster jerky she will stomp (similar to Wagstaff's structure from singleplayer) He is one of the few characters that want to farm marble but has no way of getting it faster than others, while other survivors have perks that compliment their needs (like Wigfrid's higher damage for easy hunts, Wurt's ability to use merms as farm workers, or Wormwood's abilities to mass produce Honey and Reeds for easy healing)
don t forget willow s ability to make sanity stations by just burning a stack of wood and extinguishing it after is close to turning to ash , it gives 20-25 sanity per cycle i think , stronger the more items are , u can do it with ropes but damn it s expensive. So usefull in the ruins + her abiliy to stun lock bishops with her flames and still get the loot
as a Wilson main, the only real nerf I can think of right now is that he can't hide meat in his beard around bunny man. They can see it in his inventory but not his beard?
I would like Wormwood to get the ability to craft Sea Sprout Starters as a skill tree unlock. Sea Weeds are a pretty cool enemy, but there is a very limited number of them, as the only way to grow a new one is with the item dropped by killing one. Would be neat to be able to have an ocean base as Wormwood with a bunch of Sea Weeds as a line of defense
I wish wormwood could craft basically all the plants. Craftable lightbulbs, banana trees/bushes, seaweeds, kelp stalks, etc. Really lean into the whole plant kindredness. For a nerf I guess make him always at max lunacy when on lunar places but normal sanity when they leave.
Honestly I really always found it annoying how the best way to play Webber is to repeatedly cause civil wars among the spiders even though it’s out of character, so I do think it would improve that alot if he loses sanity when nearby spiders are killed
You actually read my mind :D I was so close to adding a punishment for causing wars since I too think it's such a silly thing that it's the best way of getting materials. But alas, it would massively gut webber and cause me to get threats if I so much as suggested that :( Maybe when he gets his insight trees, we'll get new ways to amass materials that don't involve that :D
Honestly I would say that my biggest problems with Don’t Starve is that the gameplay and story is so separate that most of it is in animations rather than the actual game, of course theirs alot to be learned from inspection dialogue but when that dialogue doesn’t align with the characters gameplay it creates an even bigger disconnect between the game and story. Hell when you look into the games too deeply you start to find so many potential plot elements that don’t get resolved like the strangely consistent presence of birdfolk in basically everything except the animations and main game (seriously I have gone insane over their inexplicable yet consistent presence in events and spinoffs)
Wes buff: make the mecha balloon suit from the dream cinematic(a 1st for everything) . Should be difficult to make (lots of sanity drain and 2 minute to craft, probably...) . 1 hit it explodes(maybe damage to self and others) and while active he can do infinite hambat damage(or dodge like the explorer chick Wheeler, or speed or damage or shoot ballons using sanity similar to Walter dps) making him a glass canon just for fun
These ideas are fun but the balance between buff and nerf on them is wacky, but really cool video You underestimate how strong weremoose eating things would be in practice, it's the only downside on it Winona's portasol is still weaker than the revive just because 50% of the time you can use the revive as a global teleport too Wormwood wood nerf is just annoying lol Wigfrid's battle song is strong enough just boring ,and the revive is just neat now since it only revives two players I believe Just wanted to put these here because it is hard to estimate how strong a thing is in this game imo Lastly WX players already hate the sea so that nerf is already in effect
@@lorddarius8417 the point is they apply to a group it is quite pointless solo,the value on it still is considerable The issue is mainly that wigfrid would never use it on her own since a 5% buff is quite boring
I always wanted little to no sanity loss when digging up graves as Wendy. That’d be my minor buff Edit: for my debuff, not having Abigail summoned is minus 50 max sanity. Summoning her restores the maximum rather than giving 15 sanity
@@BiddoBamssShe could perhaps burry birds and rabbits? Then after some time have passed some simillar mini ghost could spawn above the new graves that would indicate that you can dig it and get some loot
Now that I think about it, it's kinda odd some of these characters even lose sanity for doing that. Like WX would probably gain sanity just for hurting 'FLESHLINGS' tbh. Wormwood would just think he's gardening or something, Wurt probably wouldn't mind, Wortox might not care, Webber would... only half care? Webber only loses half sanity near monsters anyway, might as well halve some of the other sanity penalties, just for continuity! -and to help his awful max sanity-
im excited of what they could do with walters skill tree, he has a lot of potential, and im sure the slightshot will get buffs, wanda is already so strong that i dont see how they could buff her more but she will get her buff anyway, back to rivaling wolfgang in damage. wortox sanity from eating souls is...barely a downside to be honest, the real downside is the amount of time spend getting the souls and the fact you can only get 20 at a time without capturing live animals
3:39 I think the extra hunger gain is there to offset the fact that there aren't a lot of good veggie/fruit foods available purely for hunger from early to mid game. Wigfrid can just kill anything bigger than a rabbit and keep herself fed for a good while, and her downside becomes negligible as soon as she gets a crock pot. For Wurt, you need a crock pot and good RNG if you want access to the better foods that don't potentially lose the ingredients' hunger value/give you an almost negligible extra. Losing her bonus hunger gain would mean spending more time foraging/farming for food, which in turn means less time for doing anything else. That said, a lesser bonus probably wouldn't be too bad, but I think we'd definitely need better starting food options before considering doing away with it completely.
Wilson nerf: small% chance to prototype the wrong thing (Since he's Bad at science but also newbies might learn to use things they didn't plan on even touching)
My Warly nerf would be to increase his same food penalty. The fact that you can simply unwrap your food bundle, slam 2 meaty stews, then wrap it back up and repeat every 2 days (and do this indefinitely) feels like it goes against the spirit of the character. There's so many food options in dst, so it feels wrong to me that the dedicated chef can just eat the same thing forever. It's an uninteresting way to circumnavigate his biggest downside. I would either make his memory slightly longer (2 days? 2.5?), give harsher repeat food penalties across the board, or make it so that certain high-hunger foods take increased penalties from being eaten too close together.
funnily enough, they basically already did what bams suggested with wolfgang (and more). Though, I guess he yeets himself with the carryable rather than throwing it.
Maxwell already has enough sanity gain as he is therefore I would like to suggest instead that he could use (only five or more) nightmare fuel in order to temporarily increase his health at the cost of sanity
a friend and i discussed breaking max's kneecaps and i think maxwell should fully act a spoiled brat and refuse items and foods based on his description because he's still obscenely powerful, maybe even beefalo as well until a certain stage of domestication
@@kingkurasaki4095 I dunno, I returned to the game right after the Winona rework pretty much since the release of Hamlet and it was really weird cause everyone was saying that Winona is bad because she is a swapout char. They gave her two abilities that make her more worth playing and it's still bad apparently. I just don't understand what people want from her to be "good". Also, I think her "immunity to death through the power of nepotism" ability is way stronger, but the teleport was neccessary to make someone competitive with Wanda.
I just want the Portasol to be more in line with how it performed in DS :) Also, it's a bit of an unfair judgement to make comparing them: The Portasol has literally no cooldown, where the backtrek watch has 8 mins. When I did a run as Winona, I was going back and forth from my base to the lunar island literally 6 times a day. (Granted with the nerf I suggested, you could still do that with a chain of teleport pads/good base spots). Also the subject of cost: You have to (in most circumstances) wait until Winter to get your first backtrek watch. Whereas the portasol can be obtained and set up within the first few days if you're lucky. And personally, I find it way stronger than immunity to darkness and her revive :) As odd as it may sound! I just prefer Winbot over anything tbh.
I gave my Walter the ability to stealth after being near bushes and trees, and it felt good. He walks slowly like when walking in Antlion's collapsed ground but this allow him to sneak and kill animals like rabbits or attack mobs from afar with his slingshot that now has bonus surprise damage. The stealth range is reduced to 2 tiles vs. hostile mobs though (especially Hounds)
I think a better buff for wilson would be to increase the sanity from prototyping to 30. I think it fits more thematically than removing it because even if he is a know it all he still loves science. Plus it might incentivize new players to try out new items. As for a nerf, thats tough. I wouldn’t want to nerf him directly since he’s supposed to be the starter character, so maybe make meat effigies cost more beard hair. Thats an indirect nerf, right?
I think to balance warly cheesing his drawback of two meatball 1 meaty stew spam as meta is to make him lose sanity if he incurs his food memory debuff , maybe 15 sanity stacking everytime he repeats to encourage using more than 4 or 5 dishes throughout a playthrough . Maybe for a buff he can get a 40% stat buff on foods if he hasnt eaten them in 4 days (twice as long as his food memory) to again encourage diversity or actually add a favourite food (Mussel Bouillabaise, the dish he was feeding his maman) from shipwrecked but buff it to 75 hunger, 20 sanity and 40hp (so 90 hunger for him) and make it a portable crockpot dish only made with 1 fish, 1 barnacle, 2 veggie filler since barnacles are a pain early-mid game to get consistently
I feel like warly's buff could be the return of his buff to crock pot food from SW or buffing the majority of his exclusive recipes because they suck, and for a nerf probably nerfing chili flakes+volt goat jelly. also a better wes buff i could see is more balloon crafts, the speed balloon is nice but he doesn't have anything going for him besides that, and even that isn't a gain for him because woodie can make a better temporary walking cane with his skill tree. Other than that, i don't know if it already does this but wilson's torch toss could make the torch lose fuel faster? I've never used it before so if I'm suggesting something that already exists or doesn't work with the mechanics of his torch toss then oh well. Anyways great video!
I think Wilson's beard should slow spoilage by half the rate of an ice box as well as turning any food he puts into his beard into "hairy" variants of the food that, when eaten, have a 5-10% chance to make him cough up a bit of beard hair at the cost of some sanity and maybe some health. After all, it wouldn't be very appetizing to eat food with thick, coarse beard hair in it. Just look at that one Beefalo meme clip. xD I have a whole mini-update in mind for Woodie, but I won't go into that because this comment would turn into a novel.
These are super nice ideas! Maybe a buff idea for Webber could be, that there could be a chance, when he trades with Pig King, that he gets the recipe for a Shamlet Mask. It would be very OP but also since Webber bases are usually full of spiders, he'd have to use it VERY wisely xD 10:57 Moose/goose and Malbatross don't have any sanity drain, however (they aren't monsters, the same as Dragonfly). But perhaps Woodie could have higher sanity drain around bird bosses? (Unless that is what you meant lmao)
I love a lot of these Nerfs and Perks ideas! As a Willow main though, I think her nerf idea is great, but also I think it would be to bring back her random accidental fires when insane. Also another cool nerf would be to have her downside of freezing increased. Normally, literally if I start a singlar fire and stand by it for a couple seconds (even in winter), I’ll be just fine and essentially removed the quirk. Sometimes I’ll even just overheat. Her perk idea is okay but I would rather as her perk have Ashley be her own separate item from Bernie and be able to use both of them at the same time (even if that means nerfing both Ashley and Bernie a bit to balance it out).
I would buff Warly by making him a better character for getting ingredients, maybe an extra meat drop from any creatures he kills or helps to kill, same for other food based drops or mechanics to help make collecting ingredients alone way more efficient, and for a nerf I think make him start to lose sanity after repeatedly eating a dish he still remembers, just to make Meatball spam be more balanced.
Ah...There's a simple reason as to why Wurt gains bonus hunger from vegetables and Wigfrid doesn't get bonus hunger from meat. Vegetarian-based diets in this game suck, particularly in the early game. Meat has a lot more high-hunger options than vegetarian-based things. It takes a lot of time until Wurt can start reliably farming high-hunger foods such as Dragonfruit for Dragonpies and Potatoes for Roasted Potatoes.
Agreed; gameplay-wise - Wurt's increased hunger gain makes sense, and even thematically it totally does too! Of course a species like merms that can only eat plants, would be better at extracting nutrients from them than an omnivore like humans. Wurt eats only plants because she has to, while Wigfrid eats only meat because... she's weird, and even breaks her own rule to eat sweets anyway.
as a wendy main, the nerf is overall stronger than the buff due to the buff being an alterative way of getting an eazy to get(and stock up on) resource meanwhile the nerf is actively making you weaker, not saying its that bad considering you didnt mention by how much weaker it would be, but also i always help abby killing just to make things go faster or/and the enemy cant be stunlocked so he cant deal as much damage to abby or even better he focuses me and i can kite him and let abby passively add him to the after life, also its main strength is when fighting bosses because they are guaranteed to damage her, and they deal al ot of damage so it works as the first half of the fight you have a damage bonus while trying to keep abby alive and the 2nd half is you with a damage nerf due to failing to protect abby from taking damage and either calling her back or letting her die on you
biddo being nice to wanda mains is surprising i do agree that she should be able to reset or revert freshness of foods though I feel like her main thing (apart from her travel) is her alarming clock and I don't actually think it needs a nerf, since to maximize damage you need to effectively be one shot. and yes you *can* use armor but if a boss has elemental damage or can stuck lock, you just die. it also does a lot of damage but isn't actually the strongest damage source out there rn, I hope klei makes it EVEN STRONGER with the skilltree but I have a feeling they'll slightly buff her. even though they said they want wanda to be completely unique and be extremely strong at her old age
Yeah! I wish I iterated it more in the video, but taking a bit off the damage off and adding even more later via insight, so it's not such a strong power-spike early would be ideal I think :)
@@BiddoBamss tbh i think the only nerf wanda deserves is the whips range to be decreased to .75 instead of 1 tile. Plus they could make up the range loss with a cool skill tree
I feel like a genuinely good fix for the warrior’s reprise would be to make it only work on ghosts that have died in, say, the last 30 seconds. That way you can’t use it for anyone anytime, but rather it acts more like the mid-combat revival it’s intended to be, sort of like revivify in D&D. That way it would also have a cost, being the inspiration that you could be using on other songs.
For Wilson I'd lean more into his scientist side. For a buff I'd give him extra sanity from prototyping but also he can get a small temporary boost to his other stats, maybe increased health from prototyping armour and more damage from prototypical weapons. For his nerd I'd make him sloppy and forgetful, when prototyping something he needs slightly more resources and if he doesn't craft a particular item often enough he forgets how.
I think a Wilson "nerf" should be something summer related, since his beard gives him a free pass through winter, and you can just shave it off with no issue in summer. (Not that he _shouldn't_ be able to do that, but if we're gonna take something away it should be basic and it fits in with how he already is)
For Warly, I'd say extend the buff you gave him to teammates. If Warly feeds someone something he made, then they also get the longer+stronger buff. That's referring to the 'pick up food, right-click on teammate' thing. Or maybe even in a short window after Warly gives it to them? Something to enhance the team aspect of his existence. For Wes, you could have simultaneously removed the increased tool durability, effectively reverting that whole aspect of his refresh. Otherwise, the buff you gave him is normal tool speed + increased durability. Perhaps Wilson's nerf could be, food stored in his beard reduces sanity of anyone else who eats it? It gains the 'hairy' prefix when he puts it in there. Maybe you also have a chance to be stunned for a moment to cough up a beard hair, from anyone including Wilson? To make it that much more yucky AND useful! Wilson doesn't lose any sanity from the hair, but does still get stunned randomly when eating to cough it up.
Make it so that every time another surviver or a Beffalo eats a food that has been stored in Willson beard gets in a small animation where they hopelessly pull the hair out of their throat
Have you ever tried out modding? As for my buff/nerf suggestion, I think Wilson's buff should be that the torch part of the skill tree gets extended to buffing every form of lighting that he can use since torches are a low-tier early game form of lighting the dark that players are expected to phase out, making buffing them a waste of limited points.
The nerf for maxwell you suggested would make it almost impossible to go through the lunar grotto Wickers change would only take affect before you kill fuelweaver since wickers love the bone helm for wendy, the damage increase from abigail helps her and all allies so for nerfs id say increase the sanity loss from abigail dying. She is your sister after all and seeing her die all over again would bring back trauma
Tbh I preferred back when Abigail needed days to be ready to spawn in again, it made her feel more like something helpful that still needed to be protected. Unlike now where she feels like a conditionally immortal bodyguard that only levels down on death, but can be infinitely respawned the second her health is back up to 1 again. Maybe a nerf is she can't be respawned for half a day, and set Wendy's sanity to 0 like the nightmare amulet for a short time after Abi goes down. Sisturn could reduce the time/severity for both of these drawbacks as well, like softening the sanity penalty, so only crawling horrors spawn instead of multiple terrorbeaks at once
I would like to canonize Wilson's 'reviver' role in the Forge and mod him accordingly. BUFF - he can make telltale hearts with no HP cost NERF - apply the 25% max hp penalty on any revival method, because healers are not supposed to die, Wilson!
Restoring food for Wanda would be useless, she can eat anything she finds on the ground, even raw monster meat. Renewing the food would be a buff for others, and not for herself. Wanda main here, I eat shit, I barely use the crock pot and fridge at all.
Also Wanda main, never use crock pot, bundles or bird cage when you can just eat raw monster meat, spoiled food you find lying around and ageless 3 times while dread is regenening anyway so sanity is low anyway xd plus getting old on purpose for no sanity drain on dread is just a no brainer
Maybe an alternative debuff for Warly would be he looses sanity if he can't be close to the ocean for a long period in time. He is a character from shipwrecked and this likely is the closest place were he can feel like home inside the Constant.
Very nice vid lad, what’s the mod your using in the background, I see wheat from the gorge event being harvested like grass, is it a mod that implements gorge items in base game? If so what’s it name? Once again, keep up the good work
As a residential Wilson main myself, I might have a good idea for a thematic nerf for the Gentleman Scientist. Increased Sanity drain from magical items, and add a sanity drain on magical items that don't have one. Staves, Dark Swords, amulets, anything magical causes Wilson mental discomfort. He's a man of science, so anything that science can't explain would definitely cause him some stress.
Nah I think you did Wurt dirty here. Fashion melon is not as useful as you think. You only get watermelons reliably in spring and summer, it spoils very quickly, and it takes up a head slot. I think a buff should be more generally useful, not only applicable for half the year. I'd say if you want something to play with wetness more, barring something bigger like letting her swim short distances (which I think would be cool) just letting her splash around in ponds to gain wetness or something I think might actually be pretty nice. And removing the veggie buff is a huge downside because there aren't really any reliable high-hunger vegeterian crockpot dishes. It makes you rely on a farm or stone fruit to survive.
7:58 In Uncompromissing Mode her Shadow Aligment removes songs and gives many buffs to Wigfrid and Moon Aligment removes health a sanity buffs and give buffs to songs.
I think that wormwood with this skill that makes bees/butterflies neurtal to him should be able to pick them to his inventory without bug net (like wurt mosquitos)
Wolfgang buff and nerf idea, While mighty he may move structures at the cost of potentially breaking them when placing them back down. The rubble would be as if they were hammered
Hmmm… Wilson’s super tough to nerf because he’s supposed to be well rounded, or just a good but pretty basic character. Screw it, give him burnout. Anytime he spends 2 or more days in a row doing a certain activity (chopping trees, fishing, mining, caving, fighting, farming…) his sanity drain is multiplied by a little bit and his tools break a little bit faster. The burnout will go away overtime. I think it sounds cool and now I kind of headcanon Wilson having ADHD but honestly this sounds kinda hard to implement :I
Okay, let me elaborate: For Wanda: Leave girlie's clock alone😭 She with her giga op shadow clock whip still does less dps than doped Wolfgang with five fuels on a nightmare stick. The downside of her weapon being whip is already countered by 30% attack speed reduction. I honestly don't have idea for nerf for this gal, just don't want to touch her "mega op clocks" since they are "mega op" for a reason and are countered by general hardness of her character For Maxwell I would go with a nerf that takes away his ability to read Wicker's books. I know that Maxy is also op for a reason, but that makes him literally "Wickerbottom, but better" And if not removed, there could be a change that makes books in bookshelf not regain durability, while Wickerbottom is not present That's all Btw Moose Goose and Malbatross don't have sanity drain, they are a few of the bosses that just don't
i rly think wurt needs her extra hunger from veggies, since there’s none that’ll fill her up really well. its a silly nerf to do honestly so it shouldnt be done.
I can understand that :) I just feel that hunger is the easiest as Wurt because I usually have a massive farm and just sustain myself off pumpkins and durians (though, Tig usually helps me with that :) )
Maybe instead of removing it entirely, it just gets reduced? I like playing Wurt a lot but her downside isn't very noticeable for me, I just grow crops until I get to lunar for kelp stalks and stonefruit bushes then I'm pretty much sorted on food forever.
The key is to rush ocean content for kelp and stone fruit from lunar (moon que bananna plants are good too if you nab them in winter). As long as she retains her immunity to kelp sanity drain when can forage on the sea quite well
I really disagree with the woodie one. Giving him access to any sort of healing during his transformations would completely break the balance of the weremoose, the moose is already nigh unkillable so at that point you're basically playing with god mode. My suggestion for a buff (I'm no woodie man so anyone with any expertise whatsoever feel free to disagree or suggest something better) would be to after consuming a transformation idle you would always transform to that same form with the "random" methods be ir monster meat or full moon. As for the downside the bird thing feels a bit random and inconsequential. You could keep it I guess but I guess something related with wood would be more interesting like, the longer you went without chopping wood the faster you lose sanity
I have a nerf to replace your this is taken directly from my a thread of mine targeted towards klei so that’s why it’s worded like that:Dear Klei entertainment ever sense the webber rework came out I’ve noticed that one thing is missing and that thing is a small but noticeable sanity drain when befriended spiders die it doesn’t even need to increase by the spider like being in range of befriended spiders dying drains not spider by spider and if that’s to much sanity loss then preferred he can gain sanity around decorated dens like how regular characters lose sanity around normal dens , grain sanity around alive befriended spiders like how regular characters lose around normal spiders, or both and you said yourself that the point of the reworks are to make the characters more like themselves so please make this change it would make a world of difference I love your game and this community and thank you(depending on whether or not there just considered recruits/expendable pack cows(in the case of beefalo) or friends this could also extend to all befriended mobs)
I also think that walter should get sligshot buff but he should shoot twice as fast because he would gain 2x dps and fight would be shorter so less mistakes could happend (and you can buff your damage using celestial crown and ammo is not that expensive rn)
15:43 OH MY GOD YOU SAID FUNNY MONKEY. WHAT IS FUNNY MONKEY, ME AND MY FRIEND WERE ONCE MAKING A POST ON THE KLEI FORUMS AND FOUND THE FUNNY MONKEY TAG, WHAT IS FUNNY MONKEY???? 😭😭😭
Oh god Klei will go crazy over some of these More specifically some of the nerfs ... For Wes and wonkey. I'm sure they're already working on them for the next update
For wortox i would like the souls to be more useful i almost always have a full stack of souls and only ever use them for cross map teleports. Maybe something like he can use souls to temporarily boost his damage, or if you wanted it really strong boost the damage of nearby players as well. Now you have a secondary factor of souls needing to decide if your team needs damage or healing at the time. As a nerf Maybe something like he can eat ONLY souls at low hunger to play into him being a "soul starved imp"
granted im garbo at this game but recently ive been playing again and as a wx main i feel like a sanity gain buff for wx is a little unnecessary; with how easy the big sanity circuits are to get compared to the big stat ones - granted you might not be using them all the time but i feel like a sanity boost would be better earlier on which is also where youll probably around the time youll use the stat circuits the most no idea what id actually do for a wx buff though - i doubt they need it at all and maybe itd be op but i think itd be purely fun to have a couple extra circuit slots... being able to stack 4 speed circuits would be stupid tho
These buffs and nerfs mostly fall into the category of "something annoying/ something mildy positive tagged on" They don't serve the gameplay at all and don't make the characters more fun. It's complexity for the sake of complexity. So much so, they all feel like Walter perks
Like "nerfing" Woodie by making him lose sanity near birds for example It's not fun, it's not changing your gameplay, it's not interesting and it's not even a nerf 99% of the time. Even if you were swarmed by penguins all winter, the sanity drain doesn't adress any of the theoretical issues at all.
the wanda nerf was not that good, but i liked the buff. Reason: The high dps from wanda comes with low hp. For that reason bosses become significantly more challenging when facing harsh weather conditions or weather affected debuffs. Wanda is a glass cannon. I think decreasing her dps would just make people stop playing her. It would honestly be better to give her something like a movement penalty for being older. That would indirectly incentivise people using her backstep watch.
nerf for wilson could be if he is storing food for too long in his beard they might have hair. and food with hair will give -5 sanity and a chance for player to choke which will take 5 hunger and 20 sanity
As someone who plays wendy or dies immediately id love a way to get morning glories more easily bc as of this moment im still new enough to the game that i have no idea how to get them at all
I’ll give you a hint: graveyards, but not in the graves themselves. But if you want a straight answer.. You get them via pipspooks. If you interact with them, you’ll be tasked with finding the Pipspook’s lost items. The pipspook acts as a sort of metal detector, and you can only find the item when you get really close to it. Every time you retrieve an item, you’ll get a few morning glories!
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Here's a nerf for Wilson - There's a 1% chance that whenever he prototypes anything at a research station, it could explode!
My god I love that so much.
Would this damage him or make him have to get the materials again to remake it or other?
@@cupiowafflesit will burn everything at the player's screen radius
@@cupiowaffles I'm not sure, really, but there's a few different ways it could go;
- Wilson takes a certain amount of damage (possibly relevant to how many materials used?).
- The research station explodes, but you still get the item.
- The materials explode, no item gained.
- A silly animation plays where Wilson has to wipe off the soot on his outfit from the explosion, and crafts the item anyway.
Wow, you just invented Wes
Wilson is op. his nerf would be that if he stands within 2 tiles of another survivor (minus WX) they are wowed by his amazing knowledge and attempt to kill him for his power.
That's just canon i'm afraid
WX not killing him is not big enough of a nerf. WX instead kills him as he finds Wilson "THE MOST ANNOYING OF ALL FLESHLINGS"
Wes needs his invisible bike becoming even lighter and his invisible rope becoming shorter
Who needs those when you can have Mecha Balloon in his upcoming skill tree.
@@RukoS-xy6jo copium
@@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA A mech balloon with rapid fire attack that deal 0.01 damage and heal them 0.02 hp. I am coping that Klei implement things that are in their short animations.
@@RukoS-xy6jo seeing balloon mech would be cool, even if it was a joke
@@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA i really want it, maybe you have to have like 20 balloons already to craft it
Wes nerf - Making balloons is more expensive due to the dwindling supply of Earth's helium.
WX-78 nerf - Holding ice or blue gems will passively increase wetness despite any clothing, due to the condensation forming on the cold surfaces.
Maxwell buff - He can do a little magic show if he has a top hat and rabbit, which gives an instant sanity boost to any nearby "children" characters. Only works once a day.
Maxwell magician is truly amazing
I feel like the magic show shouldn't just be limited to children. Also, maybe instead of an instant sanity buff, it could give sanity overtime similarly to Walter's campfire stories.
Once During a full moon warly has a chance to remember his grandma, start panicking and loosing sanity, since he doesn’t really need a nerf we could make the chances of this happening so rare it’s more of an Easter egg then a hindrance, as in the chances are 1/100percent rare
Evil. Very evil. Maybe :)
Do you mean 1% or 0.01%?
@@DargonVessle I guess either could work if it’s an Easter egg maby preferably 1 percent i wouldn’t want it to be so low it never gets discovered.
15:58 Bro wanted to flex his drop in the end ☠☠
It was less a flex and more "i already have this skin" :(((
Yikes
@@BiddoBamss
Honestly, Walter needs a way to gather marble easy. Like if you feed big Woby some monster jerky she will stomp (similar to Wagstaff's structure from singleplayer)
He is one of the few characters that want to farm marble but has no way of getting it faster than others, while other survivors have perks that compliment their needs (like Wigfrid's higher damage for easy hunts, Wurt's ability to use merms as farm workers, or Wormwood's abilities to mass produce Honey and Reeds for easy healing)
don t forget willow s ability to make sanity stations by just burning a stack of wood and extinguishing it after is close to turning to ash , it gives 20-25 sanity per cycle i think , stronger the more items are , u can do it with ropes but damn it s expensive. So usefull in the ruins + her abiliy to stun lock bishops with her flames and still get the loot
as a Wilson main, the only real nerf I can think of right now is that he can't hide meat in his beard around bunny man. They can see it in his inventory but not his beard?
How is that a buff?
@@lanceilao9577 my bad I meant nerf
I would like Wormwood to get the ability to craft Sea Sprout Starters as a skill tree unlock. Sea Weeds are a pretty cool enemy, but there is a very limited number of them, as the only way to grow a new one is with the item dropped by killing one.
Would be neat to be able to have an ocean base as Wormwood with a bunch of Sea Weeds as a line of defense
I like that :) More access to more food sources is grand
I wish wormwood could craft basically all the plants. Craftable lightbulbs, banana trees/bushes, seaweeds, kelp stalks, etc. Really lean into the whole plant kindredness. For a nerf I guess make him always at max lunacy when on lunar places but normal sanity when they leave.
food stored in wilsons beard gets contaminated with hair.
Honestly I really always found it annoying how the best way to play Webber is to repeatedly cause civil wars among the spiders even though it’s out of character, so I do think it would improve that alot if he loses sanity when nearby spiders are killed
You actually read my mind :D I was so close to adding a punishment for causing wars since I too think it's such a silly thing that it's the best way of getting materials. But alas, it would massively gut webber and cause me to get threats if I so much as suggested that :( Maybe when he gets his insight trees, we'll get new ways to amass materials that don't involve that :D
Honestly I would say that my biggest problems with Don’t Starve is that the gameplay and story is so separate that most of it is in animations rather than the actual game, of course theirs alot to be learned from inspection dialogue but when that dialogue doesn’t align with the characters gameplay it creates an even bigger disconnect between the game and story. Hell when you look into the games too deeply you start to find so many potential plot elements that don’t get resolved like the strangely consistent presence of birdfolk in basically everything except the animations and main game (seriously I have gone insane over their inexplicable yet consistent presence in events and spinoffs)
The nerf for wilson should be that storing food in beard makes all food stired -15 sanity gain modifier
New seasoning: Beard hair (Automatically applied to food stored in beard.)
Wes buff: make the mecha balloon suit from the dream cinematic(a 1st for everything) . Should be difficult to make (lots of sanity drain and 2 minute to craft, probably...) . 1 hit it explodes(maybe damage to self and others) and while active he can do infinite hambat damage(or dodge like the explorer chick Wheeler, or speed or damage or shoot ballons using sanity similar to Walter dps) making him a glass canon just for fun
beefaloo is good enough tbh , and it has more than 1 hp
These ideas are fun but the balance between buff and nerf on them is wacky, but really cool video
You underestimate how strong weremoose eating things would be in practice, it's the only downside on it
Winona's portasol is still weaker than the revive just because 50% of the time you can use the revive as a global teleport too
Wormwood wood nerf is just annoying lol
Wigfrid's battle song is strong enough just boring ,and the revive is just neat now since it only revives two players I believe
Just wanted to put these here because it is hard to estimate how strong a thing is in this game imo
Lastly WX players already hate the sea so that nerf is already in effect
What are you talking about wigfrid affinity songs are absolute garbage worst of all character by far
@@lorddarius8417 the point is they apply to a group it is quite pointless solo,the value on it still is considerable
The issue is mainly that wigfrid would never use it on her own since a 5% buff is quite boring
@@arandomguywitharandomname4187 you need 12 people to this buff apply to get equal damage increase of one wolfgang player with his affinity
I always wanted little to no sanity loss when digging up graves as Wendy. That’d be my minor buff
Edit: for my debuff, not having Abigail summoned is minus 50 max sanity. Summoning her restores the maximum rather than giving 15 sanity
Ohh I like that one!! Maybe a way to make graves renewable too?
omg yes!
@@BiddoBamssShe could perhaps burry birds and rabbits? Then after some time have passed some simillar mini ghost could spawn above the new graves that would indicate that you can dig it and get some loot
Now that I think about it, it's kinda odd some of these characters even lose sanity for doing that. Like WX would probably gain sanity just for hurting 'FLESHLINGS' tbh. Wormwood would just think he's gardening or something, Wurt probably wouldn't mind, Wortox might not care, Webber would... only half care? Webber only loses half sanity near monsters anyway, might as well halve some of the other sanity penalties, just for continuity! -and to help his awful max sanity-
@@BiddoBamss um, quick question... if she MAKES a grave... WHERE IS SHE GETTING THE DEAD BODY FROM?!?!?!?
im excited of what they could do with walters skill tree, he has a lot of potential, and im sure the slightshot will get buffs, wanda is already so strong that i dont see how they could buff her more but she will get her buff anyway, back to rivaling wolfgang in damage.
wortox sanity from eating souls is...barely a downside to be honest, the real downside is the amount of time spend getting the souls and the fact you can only get 20 at a time without capturing live animals
Walter insight perk: He can now make Gun.
Hamlet gun return
@@BiddoBamss isnt that for wes: ballon gun, deals 0.1 damage per hit but ten hits per second
3:39 I think the extra hunger gain is there to offset the fact that there aren't a lot of good veggie/fruit foods available purely for hunger from early to mid game.
Wigfrid can just kill anything bigger than a rabbit and keep herself fed for a good while, and her downside becomes negligible as soon as she gets a crock pot.
For Wurt, you need a crock pot and good RNG if you want access to the better foods that don't potentially lose the ingredients' hunger value/give you an almost negligible extra. Losing her bonus hunger gain would mean spending more time foraging/farming for food, which in turn means less time for doing anything else. That said, a lesser bonus probably wouldn't be too bad, but I think we'd definitely need better starting food options before considering doing away with it completely.
Wilson nerf: small% chance to prototype the wrong thing (Since he's Bad at science but also newbies might learn to use things they didn't plan on even touching)
That would be cool ngl :D
*prototyping Axe* prototypes One Man Band
@@BiddoBamssWilson nerf: Wilson gets freaky when it's a full moon (kind of like Woody's curse)
My Warly nerf would be to increase his same food penalty. The fact that you can simply unwrap your food bundle, slam 2 meaty stews, then wrap it back up and repeat every 2 days (and do this indefinitely) feels like it goes against the spirit of the character. There's so many food options in dst, so it feels wrong to me that the dedicated chef can just eat the same thing forever. It's an uninteresting way to circumnavigate his biggest downside.
I would either make his memory slightly longer (2 days? 2.5?), give harsher repeat food penalties across the board, or make it so that certain high-hunger foods take increased penalties from being eaten too close together.
If the Uncompromising Mode devs see this we're cooked.
pls noooo
God no that mod is tedious as is now 💀
We saw. Wilson will now explode when prototyping.
funnily enough, they basically already did what bams suggested with wolfgang (and more). Though, I guess he yeets himself with the carryable rather than throwing it.
oh yes
Maxwell already has enough sanity gain as he is therefore I would like to suggest instead that he could use (only five or more) nightmare fuel in order to temporarily increase his health at the cost of sanity
a friend and i discussed breaking max's kneecaps and i think maxwell should fully act a spoiled brat and refuse items and foods based on his description because he's still obscenely powerful, maybe even beefalo as well until a certain stage of domestication
15:32 PULSE AND ANXIETY FROM THE FEAR AND HUNGER SOUNDTRACK SPOTTED YET AGAIN
The thing with Wurt's diet is that you can make meat dishes with veggies, but you can't make veggie dishes with meat with few exceptions .
Wanda - can teleport across shards, going from Ruins to the shipwrecked Volcano with a single click.
Winona - nooo portasol too strong
Both are hilariously strong tbh
@@kingkurasaki4095 I dunno, I returned to the game right after the Winona rework pretty much since the release of Hamlet and it was really weird cause everyone was saying that Winona is bad because she is a swapout char. They gave her two abilities that make her more worth playing and it's still bad apparently. I just don't understand what people want from her to be "good". Also, I think her "immunity to death through the power of nepotism" ability is way stronger, but the teleport was neccessary to make someone competitive with Wanda.
@@DearValentinathe main difference from wanda is that winona has catapults and the teleport is considerably more selective to where you can go
But yeah nerfing portasol is silly because it is definitely the worse of the two skill choices
I just want the Portasol to be more in line with how it performed in DS :) Also, it's a bit of an unfair judgement to make comparing them: The Portasol has literally no cooldown, where the backtrek watch has 8 mins. When I did a run as Winona, I was going back and forth from my base to the lunar island literally 6 times a day. (Granted with the nerf I suggested, you could still do that with a chain of teleport pads/good base spots).
Also the subject of cost: You have to (in most circumstances) wait until Winter to get your first backtrek watch. Whereas the portasol can be obtained and set up within the first few days if you're lucky. And personally, I find it way stronger than immunity to darkness and her revive :) As odd as it may sound! I just prefer Winbot over anything tbh.
I gave my Walter the ability to stealth after being near bushes and trees, and it felt good. He walks slowly like when walking in Antlion's collapsed ground but this allow him to sneak and kill animals like rabbits or attack mobs from afar with his slingshot that now has bonus surprise damage. The stealth range is reduced to 2 tiles vs. hostile mobs though (especially Hounds)
Basically turn Walter into a stealth archer 😂
wilson nerf idea: when eating food from beard 15% chance to say "ew there's a hair in it!" and lose 5 sanity
and an even smaller chance to vomit hair or even a rabbit (that type of rabbit when ur low on sanity)
New ocean video - YES PLEASE!
Maybe play as Warly too, so you don't forget a crockpot this time)...
I think a better buff for wilson would be to increase the sanity from prototyping to 30. I think it fits more thematically than removing it because even if he is a know it all he still loves science. Plus it might incentivize new players to try out new items. As for a nerf, thats tough. I wouldn’t want to nerf him directly since he’s supposed to be the starter character, so maybe make meat effigies cost more beard hair. Thats an indirect nerf, right?
3:03 If this was an actual update, Polarlotus would become a Wurt main
I think to balance warly cheesing his drawback of two meatball 1 meaty stew spam as meta is to make him lose sanity if he incurs his food memory debuff , maybe 15 sanity stacking everytime he repeats to encourage using more than 4 or 5 dishes throughout a playthrough . Maybe for a buff he can get a 40% stat buff on foods if he hasnt eaten them in 4 days (twice as long as his food memory) to again encourage diversity or actually add a favourite food (Mussel Bouillabaise, the dish he was feeding his maman) from shipwrecked but buff it to 75 hunger, 20 sanity and 40hp (so 90 hunger for him) and make it a portable crockpot dish only made with 1 fish, 1 barnacle, 2 veggie filler since barnacles are a pain early-mid game to get consistently
That's a super good idea actually! Sanity loss seems to fit well :)
I feel like warly's buff could be the return of his buff to crock pot food from SW or buffing the majority of his exclusive recipes because they suck, and for a nerf probably nerfing chili flakes+volt goat jelly. also a better wes buff i could see is more balloon crafts, the speed balloon is nice but he doesn't have anything going for him besides that, and even that isn't a gain for him because woodie can make a better temporary walking cane with his skill tree. Other than that, i don't know if it already does this but wilson's torch toss could make the torch lose fuel faster? I've never used it before so if I'm suggesting something that already exists or doesn't work with the mechanics of his torch toss then oh well. Anyways great video!
I think Wilson's beard should slow spoilage by half the rate of an ice box as well as turning any food he puts into his beard into "hairy" variants of the food that, when eaten, have a 5-10% chance to make him cough up a bit of beard hair at the cost of some sanity and maybe some health. After all, it wouldn't be very appetizing to eat food with thick, coarse beard hair in it. Just look at that one Beefalo meme clip. xD
I have a whole mini-update in mind for Woodie, but I won't go into that because this comment would turn into a novel.
i want a novel! i just think he should be willows bff, cuz they both hate trees in a way!!
These are super nice ideas! Maybe a buff idea for Webber could be, that there could be a chance, when he trades with Pig King, that he gets the recipe for a Shamlet Mask. It would be very OP but also since Webber bases are usually full of spiders, he'd have to use it VERY wisely xD
10:57 Moose/goose and Malbatross don't have any sanity drain, however (they aren't monsters, the same as Dragonfly). But perhaps Woodie could have higher sanity drain around bird bosses? (Unless that is what you meant lmao)
I love a lot of these Nerfs and Perks ideas! As a Willow main though, I think her nerf idea is great, but also I think it would be to bring back her random accidental fires when insane. Also another cool nerf would be to have her downside of freezing increased. Normally, literally if I start a singlar fire and stand by it for a couple seconds (even in winter), I’ll be just fine and essentially removed the quirk. Sometimes I’ll even just overheat. Her perk idea is okay but I would rather as her perk have Ashley be her own separate item from Bernie and be able to use both of them at the same time (even if that means nerfing both Ashley and Bernie a bit to balance it out).
the sudden BWAAAAAAAAAA from the fear and hunger soundtrack really surprised me xD 15:32
14:51 Historians will definitely call Willow and Wigfrid “Roommates” 😂
Praciting writing love letters to eachother for their future husbands...
@@BiddoBamss wigfrids description for willows lighter... shows affection.. and she even has a thing to take less damage from fire...
I would buff Warly by making him a better character for getting ingredients, maybe an extra meat drop from any creatures he kills or helps to kill, same for other food based drops or mechanics to help make collecting ingredients alone way more efficient, and for a nerf I think make him start to lose sanity after repeatedly eating a dish he still remembers, just to make Meatball spam be more balanced.
Ah...There's a simple reason as to why Wurt gains bonus hunger from vegetables and Wigfrid doesn't get bonus hunger from meat. Vegetarian-based diets in this game suck, particularly in the early game. Meat has a lot more high-hunger options than vegetarian-based things. It takes a lot of time until Wurt can start reliably farming high-hunger foods such as Dragonfruit for Dragonpies and Potatoes for Roasted Potatoes.
Agreed; gameplay-wise - Wurt's increased hunger gain makes sense, and even thematically it totally does too! Of course a species like merms that can only eat plants, would be better at extracting nutrients from them than an omnivore like humans. Wurt eats only plants because she has to, while Wigfrid eats only meat because... she's weird, and even breaks her own rule to eat sweets anyway.
As a Wortox Main I absolutely adore the proposed buff and nerf.
"man i really don't like birds-"
"yep you're now going insane from the mere sight of a feather."
ngl i think a good nerf for Wilson would be making other survivors refuse to eat food that was stored in Wilson's beard
When the Wilson main gets back from foraging 💀
The amount of times people have came into my server and just eat all my food then leave, I would put all the food I find in my beard
as a wendy main, the nerf is overall stronger than the buff due to the buff being an alterative way of getting an eazy to get(and stock up on) resource meanwhile the nerf is actively making you weaker, not saying its that bad considering you didnt mention by how much weaker it would be, but also i always help abby killing just to make things go faster or/and the enemy cant be stunlocked so he cant deal as much damage to abby or even better he focuses me and i can kite him and let abby passively add him to the after life, also its main strength is when fighting bosses because they are guaranteed to damage her, and they deal al ot of damage so it works as the first half of the fight you have a damage bonus while trying to keep abby alive and the 2nd half is you with a damage nerf due to failing to protect abby from taking damage and either calling her back or letting her die on you
biddo being nice to wanda mains is surprising
i do agree that she should be able to reset or revert freshness of foods
though I feel like her main thing (apart from her travel) is her alarming clock and I don't actually think it needs a nerf, since to maximize damage you need to effectively be one shot.
and yes you *can* use armor but if a boss has elemental damage or can stuck lock, you just die.
it also does a lot of damage but isn't actually the strongest damage source out there rn, I hope klei makes it EVEN STRONGER with the skilltree but I have a feeling they'll slightly buff her. even though they said they want wanda to be completely unique and be extremely strong at her old age
Yeah! I wish I iterated it more in the video, but taking a bit off the damage off and adding even more later via insight, so it's not such a strong power-spike early would be ideal I think :)
@@BiddoBamss tru tru
I just wish they don't do wanda dirty in her skill tree like wigfrid 😭
@@BiddoBamss tbh i think the only nerf wanda deserves is the whips range to be decreased to .75 instead of 1 tile. Plus they could make up the range loss with a cool skill tree
I love your content man! Me and my friends have recently gotten into DST and your videos have been really interesting! Keep it up!
I feel like a genuinely good fix for the warrior’s reprise would be to make it only work on ghosts that have died in, say, the last 30 seconds. That way you can’t use it for anyone anytime, but rather it acts more like the mid-combat revival it’s intended to be, sort of like revivify in D&D. That way it would also have a cost, being the inspiration that you could be using on other songs.
For Wilson I'd lean more into his scientist side. For a buff I'd give him extra sanity from prototyping but also he can get a small temporary boost to his other stats, maybe increased health from prototyping armour and more damage from prototypical weapons. For his nerd I'd make him sloppy and forgetful, when prototyping something he needs slightly more resources and if he doesn't craft a particular item often enough he forgets how.
I think a Wilson "nerf" should be something summer related, since his beard gives him a free pass through winter, and you can just shave it off with no issue in summer. (Not that he _shouldn't_ be able to do that, but if we're gonna take something away it should be basic and it fits in with how he already is)
For Warly, I'd say extend the buff you gave him to teammates.
If Warly feeds someone something he made, then they also get the longer+stronger buff.
That's referring to the 'pick up food, right-click on teammate' thing. Or maybe even in a short window after Warly gives it to them? Something to enhance the team aspect of his existence.
For Wes, you could have simultaneously removed the increased tool durability, effectively reverting that whole aspect of his refresh. Otherwise, the buff you gave him is normal tool speed + increased durability.
Perhaps Wilson's nerf could be, food stored in his beard reduces sanity of anyone else who eats it? It gains the 'hairy' prefix when he puts it in there. Maybe you also have a chance to be stunned for a moment to cough up a beard hair, from anyone including Wilson? To make it that much more yucky AND useful! Wilson doesn't lose any sanity from the hair, but does still get stunned randomly when eating to cough it up.
Wilson nerf: Sometimes his prototyped item/structure straight up EXPLODES
Excellent idea. Klei, add it.
Make it so that every time another surviver or a Beffalo eats a food that has been stored in Willson beard gets in a small animation where they hopelessly pull the hair out of their throat
Have you ever tried out modding? As for my buff/nerf suggestion, I think Wilson's buff should be that the torch part of the skill tree gets extended to buffing every form of lighting that he can use since torches are a low-tier early game form of lighting the dark that players are expected to phase out, making buffing them a waste of limited points.
The nerf for maxwell you suggested would make it almost impossible to go through the lunar grotto
Wickers change would only take affect before you kill fuelweaver since wickers love the bone helm
for wendy, the damage increase from abigail helps her and all allies so for nerfs id say increase the sanity loss from abigail dying. She is your sister after all and seeing her die all over again would bring back trauma
Tbh I preferred back when Abigail needed days to be ready to spawn in again, it made her feel more like something helpful that still needed to be protected. Unlike now where she feels like a conditionally immortal bodyguard that only levels down on death, but can be infinitely respawned the second her health is back up to 1 again. Maybe a nerf is she can't be respawned for half a day, and set Wendy's sanity to 0 like the nightmare amulet for a short time after Abi goes down. Sisturn could reduce the time/severity for both of these drawbacks as well, like softening the sanity penalty, so only crawling horrors spawn instead of multiple terrorbeaks at once
I would like to canonize Wilson's 'reviver' role in the Forge and mod him accordingly.
BUFF - he can make telltale hearts with no HP cost
NERF - apply the 25% max hp penalty on any revival method, because healers are not supposed to die, Wilson!
Restoring food for Wanda would be useless, she can eat anything she finds on the ground, even raw monster meat.
Renewing the food would be a buff for others, and not for herself.
Wanda main here, I eat shit, I barely use the crock pot and fridge at all.
Also Wanda main, never use crock pot, bundles or bird cage when you can just eat raw monster meat, spoiled food you find lying around and ageless 3 times while dread is regenening anyway so sanity is low anyway xd plus getting old on purpose for no sanity drain on dread is just a no brainer
Maybe an alternative debuff for Warly would be he looses sanity if he can't be close to the ocean for a long period in time. He is a character from shipwrecked and this likely is the closest place were he can feel like home inside the Constant.
god i just wish wonkey was a proper character already, he's lowkey my favorite survivor but it sucks being stuck with one less inventory slot!
The wilbur jumpscare was so funny ngl
I wonder how Wanda skill tree would look like
I also liked the idea of rewinding food
Very nice vid lad, what’s the mod your using in the background, I see wheat from the gorge event being harvested like grass, is it a mod that implements gorge items in base game? If so what’s it name?
Once again, keep up the good work
As a residential Wilson main myself, I might have a good idea for a thematic nerf for the Gentleman Scientist.
Increased Sanity drain from magical items, and add a sanity drain on magical items that don't have one. Staves, Dark Swords, amulets, anything magical causes Wilson mental discomfort. He's a man of science, so anything that science can't explain would definitely cause him some stress.
Nah I think you did Wurt dirty here. Fashion melon is not as useful as you think. You only get watermelons reliably in spring and summer, it spoils very quickly, and it takes up a head slot. I think a buff should be more generally useful, not only applicable for half the year. I'd say if you want something to play with wetness more, barring something bigger like letting her swim short distances (which I think would be cool) just letting her splash around in ponds to gain wetness or something I think might actually be pretty nice.
And removing the veggie buff is a huge downside because there aren't really any reliable high-hunger vegeterian crockpot dishes. It makes you rely on a farm or stone fruit to survive.
7:58 In Uncompromissing Mode her Shadow Aligment removes songs and gives many buffs to Wigfrid and Moon Aligment removes health a sanity buffs and give buffs to songs.
i am not a woodie player but his buff and nerfs seem like the most fun.. they add for more world engagement which i find to be really cool
I think that wormwood with this skill that makes bees/butterflies neurtal to him should be able to pick them to his inventory without bug net (like wurt mosquitos)
Wolfgang buff and nerf idea, While mighty he may move structures at the cost of potentially breaking them when placing them back down. The rubble would be as if they were hammered
I GOT PTSD FROM THE FEAR AND HUNGER SOUND 😭
My buff for wormwood would to give him slight health regeneration when walking on soil or grass, cause he absorbs nutrients from the ground
Hmmm… Wilson’s super tough to nerf because he’s supposed to be well rounded, or just a good but pretty basic character.
Screw it, give him burnout. Anytime he spends 2 or more days in a row doing a certain activity (chopping trees, fishing, mining, caving, fighting, farming…) his sanity drain is multiplied by a little bit and his tools break a little bit faster. The burnout will go away overtime.
I think it sounds cool and now I kind of headcanon Wilson having ADHD but honestly this sounds kinda hard to implement :I
Amazing video btw what's that mod with these gorge features?
Thank you! It's feast and famine :)
For Wes, his buff is that he gets 20 more max hp, and his nerf is that his max hp gets lowered by 20
For Wilson's nerf, make beard food drain sanity slightly/reduce sanity gain. After all, there could be beard hairs in the food.
Okay, let me elaborate:
For Wanda: Leave girlie's clock alone😭 She with her giga op shadow clock whip still does less dps than doped Wolfgang with five fuels on a nightmare stick. The downside of her weapon being whip is already countered by 30% attack speed reduction. I honestly don't have idea for nerf for this gal, just don't want to touch her "mega op clocks" since they are "mega op" for a reason and are countered by general hardness of her character
For Maxwell I would go with a nerf that takes away his ability to read Wicker's books. I know that Maxy is also op for a reason, but that makes him literally "Wickerbottom, but better" And if not removed, there could be a change that makes books in bookshelf not regain durability, while Wickerbottom is not present
That's all
Btw Moose Goose and Malbatross don't have sanity drain, they are a few of the bosses that just don't
They should add that Terraria mod where your chatacter gets a heart attack and dies into DST
13:37 bonus damage for throwing big potato
wilson loves prototyping tho, thats like the entire plot of the game. but i also dont know what to give him
i rly think wurt needs her extra hunger from veggies, since there’s none that’ll fill her up really well. its a silly nerf to do honestly so it shouldnt be done.
I can understand that :) I just feel that hunger is the easiest as Wurt because I usually have a massive farm and just sustain myself off pumpkins and durians (though, Tig usually helps me with that :) )
@@BiddoBamss nah ur right tho hunger is easy to farm for wurt. but idk what i’d do without the hunger buff 😔
Maybe instead of removing it entirely, it just gets reduced? I like playing Wurt a lot but her downside isn't very noticeable for me, I just grow crops until I get to lunar for kelp stalks and stonefruit bushes then I'm pretty much sorted on food forever.
The key is to rush ocean content for kelp and stone fruit from lunar (moon que bananna plants are good too if you nab them in winter). As long as she retains her immunity to kelp sanity drain when can forage on the sea quite well
Maybe have the hunger bonus apply to only crock pot dishes? Im not really that experienced at the game so I don't know if this will do anything
I really disagree with the woodie one.
Giving him access to any sort of healing during his transformations would completely break the balance of the weremoose, the moose is already nigh unkillable so at that point you're basically playing with god mode.
My suggestion for a buff (I'm no woodie man so anyone with any expertise whatsoever feel free to disagree or suggest something better) would be to after consuming a transformation idle you would always transform to that same form with the "random" methods be ir monster meat or full moon.
As for the downside the bird thing feels a bit random and inconsequential. You could keep it I guess but I guess something related with wood would be more interesting like, the longer you went without chopping wood the faster you lose sanity
I'd like to see Wurt's skill tree reworked more into merm focused one.
I have a nerf to replace your this is taken directly from my a thread of mine targeted towards klei so that’s why it’s worded like that:Dear Klei entertainment ever sense the webber rework came out I’ve noticed that one thing is missing and that thing is a small but noticeable sanity drain when befriended spiders die it doesn’t even need to increase by the spider like being in range of befriended spiders dying drains not spider by spider and if that’s to much sanity loss then preferred he can gain sanity around decorated dens like how regular characters lose sanity around normal dens , grain sanity around alive befriended spiders like how regular characters lose around normal spiders, or both and you said yourself that the point of the reworks are to make the characters more like themselves so please make this change it would make a world of difference I love your game and this community and thank you(depending on whether or not there just considered recruits/expendable pack cows(in the case of beefalo) or friends this could also extend to all befriended mobs)
WX may hate boats, but he loves sea waves
I also think that walter should get sligshot buff but he should shoot twice as fast because he would gain 2x dps and fight would be shorter so less mistakes could happend (and you can buff your damage using celestial crown and ammo is not that expensive rn)
15:43 OH MY GOD YOU SAID FUNNY MONKEY. WHAT IS FUNNY MONKEY, ME AND MY FRIEND WERE ONCE MAKING A POST ON THE KLEI FORUMS AND FOUND THE FUNNY MONKEY TAG, WHAT IS FUNNY MONKEY???? 😭😭😭
As a wigfred main se desperately needs that buff and the is okay also you fantastic
Oh god Klei will go crazy over some of these
More specifically some of the nerfs
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For Wes and wonkey.
I'm sure they're already working on them for the next update
For wortox i would like the souls to be more useful i almost always have a full stack of souls and only ever use them for cross map teleports. Maybe something like he can use souls to temporarily boost his damage, or if you wanted it really strong boost the damage of nearby players as well. Now you have a secondary factor of souls needing to decide if your team needs damage or healing at the time. As a nerf Maybe something like he can eat ONLY souls at low hunger to play into him being a "soul starved imp"
He can souls to heal himself and others quickly and for teleworking, they're already strong. I think adding another use for souls would make them op.
granted im garbo at this game but recently ive been playing again and as a wx main i feel like a sanity gain buff for wx is a little unnecessary; with how easy the big sanity circuits are to get compared to the big stat ones - granted you might not be using them all the time but i feel like a sanity boost would be better earlier on which is also where youll probably around the time youll use the stat circuits the most
no idea what id actually do for a wx buff though - i doubt they need it at all and maybe itd be op but i think itd be purely fun to have a couple extra circuit slots... being able to stack 4 speed circuits would be stupid tho
I eered on the side of "Well, I'd rather the buff be thematic than actually good" since in all honesty? I don't think they need a buff :)
Wilson nerf: his beard makes him more flamable
A buff for Wilson, there’s a 19% chance for what he makes to be doubled, this includes deconstruction due to the forbidden knowledge maxwell game him
These buffs and nerfs mostly fall into the category of "something annoying/ something mildy positive tagged on"
They don't serve the gameplay at all and don't make the characters more fun. It's complexity for the sake of complexity. So much so, they all feel like Walter perks
Like "nerfing" Woodie by making him lose sanity near birds for example
It's not fun, it's not changing your gameplay, it's not interesting and it's not even a nerf 99% of the time.
Even if you were swarmed by penguins all winter, the sanity drain doesn't adress any of the theoretical issues at all.
I think a nerf for wilson could be that he gets a sanity drain from wearing hats because he hates when his hair gets messed up
the wanda nerf was not that good, but i liked the buff. Reason: The high dps from wanda comes with low hp. For that reason bosses become significantly more challenging when facing harsh weather conditions or weather affected debuffs. Wanda is a glass cannon. I think decreasing her dps would just make people stop playing her. It would honestly be better to give her something like a movement penalty for being older. That would indirectly incentivise people using her backstep watch.
liked the video as always!!!
Nerf for wilson: Hunger loss when prototyping items
nerf for wilson could be if he is storing food for too long in his beard they might have hair. and food with hair will give -5 sanity and a chance for player to choke which will take 5 hunger and 20 sanity
Wilson nerf - he lose sanity when he standing near Wanda
Wilson's buff should be that he doesn't get a nerf
As someone who plays wendy or dies immediately id love a way to get morning glories more easily bc as of this moment im still new enough to the game that i have no idea how to get them at all
I’ll give you a hint: graveyards, but not in the graves themselves.
But if you want a straight answer..
You get them via pipspooks. If you interact with them, you’ll be tasked with finding the Pipspook’s lost items. The pipspook acts as a sort of metal detector, and you can only find the item when you get really close to it. Every time you retrieve an item, you’ll get a few morning glories!
I think they should nerf Max's passive sanity gen, but give him a big sanity buff for being around unique statues.
Moosegoose dosn't have a sanity drain.
i feel like winnow and wes and wandy and Walter needa big buff so gamer like me play them and not wolf/Wanda for 2000 days straight
or more curse wes