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you are looking really rough this days wee boy, it must be all those sleepless nights thinking about Israel. Time for you to get a real job and get a real life, lets see. I believe there is a gig going for a lecturer on repetitive lectures at the University of Repetitive Lectures.
@@csharpe5787 In Brazil we have a Supreme Court ruling equalizing antisemitism, antizionism and the crime of racism. I do think the current court make-up would overrule it so people would be afraid to sue anyone and risk it being challenged, but it's still pretty disturbing.
it's not a general situation. This apartheid state in the levant is the one and only exception it seems. Even when the ottomans committed their genocide, the germans who were allies were not directly involved, they just looked the other way
I’m German and I’m disgusted by this collective silence and the support of Israel. That’s the wrong way to try to rework the German past. Genocide is genocide and we’ve to speak up as a country, especially with our past.
@@coolcat398 Are you talking about the past where the Allied powers projected their aiding and abetting an actual genocide being committed by Soviet Union Russia? And to cover up this fact, they set up the Nuremberg trials, allowing Stalin to appoint judges and prosecutors to hide the truth? That past?
Would it not have been better had they gotten a portion of Germany. This whole genocide would have been prevented. Even now while probably seeming ludicrous to most people this would be the only solution to this issue that has been dragging on for decades.
Since October last year, I have felt as if I were living in an alternate reality because I have almost never heard a pro-Palestinian voice here in Germany. The constant gaslighting by the German government, which insists that Israel has the right to defend itself without considering the historical context of Palestinian resistance to occupation, has been so disturbing. Not so long ago they made a resolution against people who dare to speak against Israel. I hope many more Germans will speak out about this.
Oh bs. Plenty of ppl argue the in part definition requires more deaths than Gaza because otherwise every individual death or group of 2 could be called a genocide. If they call it ethnic cleansing beyond the pale and call on Israel to stop, you're a coward for saying they support genocide for not defining Gaza that way.
Of all comments here, this is the most obvious and the most valuable. It's also the one that didn't get a single comment. But the 241 likes are something. +1 in a moment.
I am a foreign student studying in Germany. The government has passed a new law which bans students to speak about Israel. Our University has right to ex-matriculate us from our course if we speak anything against Israel. That means my temporary residence permit will expire on the moment when we become ex-matriculate from our course. One of my friend were sent back to my country because he posted a video of Palestine. His career became vanish after that. We are in a horror state. ( Hi, this is an edit of my comment, I mixed resolution with low. It was completely my mistake and I apologize for the misinformation. Though the story of my friend was correct. )
Sit this one out and concentrate on your studies. There will be other atrocities in the future that you can speak up against when you are in a less vulnerable position.
As a German married to a Palestinian who lost many relatives in Gaza over the past months I am overjoyed to see this discussion!!! Thank you Owen, Hanna and Melanie and thank you, Hanna and Melanie for your braverie to question the status quo!!!!!
My sincere condolences to your partner for their loss, I can't imagine the horror and helplessness. Wünsche euch beiden viel Kraft und dass es bald Lichtblicke gibt.
So sorry for your loss. The tragedy the people in Gaza and Lebanon are suffering is abominable. We in the USA will keep fighting. This is not what our fathers fought for.
I survived a genocide and lost family members, I would not wish genocide on anyone no matter what colour you are no matter what background you are, genocide is a evil act. Genocide should be a red line for the world. No to genocide, yes to peace and humanity. FREE PALESTINE ❤🇵🇸
My 95 years old mother from Belgium told me a long time ago : Beware, for after the last of my generation will have expired, it will happen again… And here we are…
I live in Germany and I can only 100% agree with these women. There is a media blackout. One example, 3 days after the soccer scandal in Amsterdam revealing the real story, I have only seen one report correcting the original reporting about antisemitism against Israeli soccer fans. These reports are all still out there. So well said, especially at the end...Where will this lead if we all stay silent on such violations of international law. We will be next. Thanks so much to you all.
I heard that ARD retracted their broadcaste portraying the Israeli hooligans as victims, and that they apologized. I am just not sure it got to the public. I don't trust the ARD. Can anyone give me more Info on that?
True, but the citizens could do something. Wearing a water melon sign for example. But they do NOTHING except parroting Israel has the right to defend....
As a German, I am surprised to hear about the initiative here for the first time. I really appreciate the effort. It's frightening to see how little criticism there is in Germany.
I am German too. I would recommend the documentary 'Europa, the last Battle', especially the first and eighth part. You will learn a lot of facts which have been totally supressed to the detriment of the German people.
Did you, germans think OT believe that they would let you go and be free after the ww2? Your system and politics was designed in their service. You believe you live in democracy and freedom.
Proud that our member Melanie Schweizer was able to speak out here! We are the German party that says: Stop the genocide! And to the German government: Stop your complicity in it! Join us in actively working against it in Germany!
By the way which party is that since try as I may I have not come across such thinkers Since you are proud please share .I have German citizenship and to date find the parties all in favour or extremely mute ...
@@HelenaMikas - It's Varoufakis' pan-European revolutionary project... which only has representation in Greece. A variant label for DiEM25. They're interesting but small. In Germany I'd rather find that kind of politics in the Wagenknecht List, with a lot greater popular traction.
The biggest disporia of Palastinians in Europe live in Germany. I stand alone ( not allowed to demonstate in groups ) sometimes with a peace / Palastinian flag at the small marketplace in my village in Bavaria. One day a Palastinian came up to me and said " why to they think we are not humans ". I thought he was talking about Isrealis, I said I did,nt believe it was all Isrealis . He said " NO I mean the Germans!. I had no reply for him and felt I had been transported in time back to the 1930,s.
The clarification of the ICJ on July 19, 2024 states: 1 Israel must leave all illegally occupied territories (Gaza, West Bank Land, East Jerusalem... Golan Heights). 2 All supporters of the illegal occupation are obliged to make reparations (US, UK, Germany..).
The US doesn't recognise the ICJ or ICC. It barely recognises the UN and certainly doesn't abide by the rule of law. Britain is struggling to be relevant about anything in the world.
Bless these brave women for speaking up. Had no idea that it can not really even be discussed publicly in Germany without the possibility of repercussions. Thank you for your truth and humanity.
Es gibt keinen Ärger nur weil man in Deutschland diskutiert ,wenn man eine Meinung hat muss man nur damit leben das man hinterfragt wird, aber das sollte ja wohl normal sein.
@@felixdim3977 Do Felix, there is also the Hind Rajab Foundation it is a group of Lawyers who are working to take 1000 IDF soldiers to the Hague on War Crimes charges
I am SO relieved to hear these voices!!! I am German living in Germany and am in total diesbelief about how our government is reacting. And after they just silenty passed a law a few days ago which basically criminalises critism of Israel, I wanted to leave the country. Because I share Melanie's sentiment of waking up to a horror movie every single day. But I thought I was the only one.
Ein Gesetz das Kritik an Israel kriminalisiert? Das ist aber eine merkwürdige Auslegung des Gesetzes. Es steht ihnen frei das Land zu verlassen. Ich glaube der Einfluss unserer Regierung auf alle Beteiligten ist sehr begrenzt.
@Angela-dq2pk Das ist ihre Antwort? Wenn dir dein Heimatland nicht passt, dann geh doch? Wie wäre es, wenn Sie sich aus Kommentarspalten fernhalten, die offensichtlich Ihrer Wahrnehmung nicht entsprechen? Ich bin keine Juristin. Ich beziehe mich auf Äußerungen von deutschen Juristen, teils selbst jüdischen Glaubens. Die Basis für die Kriminalisierung ist eine so vage Definition von Antisemitismus, dass die Aussage "Israel begeht einen Genozid" bereits darunter fallen könnte. Und das finde ich erschreckend. Belehren Sie mich gern eines Besseren. Aber sprechen Sie mir nicht meine Heimat ab.
Ich spreche ihnen nicht ihre Heimat ab , aber sie sagten selber das sie am liebsten gehen wollen , ich habe ihnen nur gesagt das sie das dann auch tun sollten .Die Definition von Genozid oder Völkermord ist nicht das was dort passiert , so schlimm wie das auch ist. Was ich in dieser ganzen Diskussion hier vermisse ist eine angemessene Reaktion zu den Verbrechen der Hamas , sowohl an den Israelis wie auch der eigenen Palestinensischen Bevölkerung.
I'm an American, and I care. I've been posting about this since Octoober 2023. The few people that are connected to me will never be able to honestly claim that they didn't know. I have also contacted my government numerous times. My heart breaks for any and all who have experienced genicide, as my Indigenous ancestors had here in the US.
That is colonialism. Steal land and wealth, call the indigenous inferior beings, attempt genocide. Nothing new there. Watched the US do it in Vietnam and continued ever since. The USisrael the 51st state.
Am devastated that I have been Permanently banned from X with no prior warning. Have been posting relentlessly about Gaza since last November and now feeling total despair at not being able to keep up with current truthful news & do my bit at spreading it. I began posting about Gaza last Nov and by time of banning had reposted over 33000 times...just about Gaza. Am so sad, angry and frustrated. Please keep making these videos so those of us banned like me can keep up to date. Thank you.
Илон,Цукерберг,и другие богачи рабы сионистов,они свою душу продали дьяволу,они продали будущее человечества, Цукерберг строить для себя тайны бункер,то есть он ясно осазноет что творит большой грех,и он осознает что он часть сионистов сатанистов который творят геноцид мирового масштаба.
Hearing that the MAJORITY of ALL THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of people that have died are CHILDREN between the age of 5-9 is a nightmare. I flat out cry just hearing that.. We have lost our humanity. I know we are millions of people around the world that are mortified by this, but it just goes on. Evil has its clutches in power everywhere..
@egay86292 No, I think @kungmeek's comment reflects a very basic human - not just belief, but also instinct, that our next generation of vulnerable, defenceless young need to be protected, sheltered, fed, supported & helped in every way possible to grow to maturity. Not that they have 'more right to live' than others do. What a bizarre interpretation of someone's grief about innocent, defenceless children being killed in their thousands in a so called 'war'. And it's not just a human trait, though I could cite numerous examples of human society's laws & regulations enacted to protect children. Even the maternal instinct of numerous animals is to defend their offspring at the risk of their own death.
Indeed the Israeli lobby has its vile tentacles in every western government. They lobby Britain, the EU , Australia, Canada, etc. We should all route out this evil from our governments.
Children are the primary victims: the largest group is aged 5 to 9, followed by those 10 to 14. Babies aged 0 to 4 form the third-largest group, and the fourth is adolescents aged 15 to 19. This is not the order just among kids. This is among all age demographics. I tried to give more info but the complicit YT immediately deletes it. I'm surprised it allowed me this comment.
The next demographic after 15 to 19 is age 30-34, then 25-29, then 20-24. Then, from age 34 and up, the number decreases with age. It is extraordinarily clear who their preferred victims are.
Thank you, Owen! I live in Germany and knowing that I'm not alone is a relief. I almost gave up. It's a very scary atmosphere..it's so sad..they want to silence us..it's against all the values they taught us
I’ll be thinking of you today, and others who are in your position. You probably won’t feel it, but hopefully you’re aware that people all over the world will be standing with you today. You’re not alone 😊
Same!!! I thought I must be going crazy. It is such a relief to know I am not alone. But I was so proud of being able to speak my mind freely in Germany. So I thought.
Being a Swiss/ Dutch living in Germany married to a German I have been utterly shocked by the silence and non-action here. I have experienced first hand the gaslighting and refusal to speak out about Palestine - even if not, then the ongoing genocide, human rights? - among friends and family. Phrases such as "it´s too complicated", " I rather not talk about politics", "not sure it is a genocide" or simply the silence as the word Palestine comes up...pretty much tells it all. Being accused of being too sensitive, overreacting, overdoing it, and that it would be best to avoid constantly looking at the horrible images as it is important to self-protect ..are some of the common reactions to it. But even so, let´s admit...it would still be easy to stand for basic human rights knowing the numbers and thousands of law infractions. But none have joined on the streets, none have liked a post, none have spoken out. The media coverage in Germany is ridiculizing, gaslighting, silencing and simply not showing this genocide and is extensively misusing the "Antisemitism" stamp on everything. I am seriously considering moving out of this country where I do not feel safe or comfortable even wearing my Palestine pin...I honestly do not want my kids to grow up with such mentality. But if we all leave, who would be left to resist and oppose.
You are a wonderful person, that last sentence is especially powerful! i totally agree with you and your thoughts here- wayyy too many people have these “neutral” or “don’t wanna be involved” kind of reactions in general and it’s horrible to see. It’s actually ironic because I feel like it’s way more terrifying for me to think of the thought that I closed my eyes and looked the other way while children were targeted and killed and non fighters and regular people tortured and starved everyday while I lived my luxury life.
Thank you for inviting Hanna and Melanie. I could not agree more. I am based in Germany and the collective silence and cowardice saddens me deeply. Thank you Hanna and Melanie. You are amazing.
As an Icelander, I hereby state that if the Icelandic government tries to pass laws to silence people, I will simply be thrown into the penitentiary, I will not be silenced.
Yes sisters thats so true i am german myself i live in germany. There is this fear to talk openly about this topic because they will call you an antisemite. Proud of you sisters❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Proud of you Owen once again
I am German too. I would recommend the documentary 'Europa, the last Battle', especially the first and eighth part. You will learn a lot of facts which have been totally supressed to the detriment of the German people.
This is one of the best, most touching, most real, videos I have seen in 400 days! I am so proud of these women! And thank you Mr. Jones. You are doing this world a service that can never be repaid.
Having spent around 16 years in Germany (until 2012) and being mostly full of praise for what I experienced during that time, the recent actions of the German state have left me speechless. Great to see that - even at this late stage - people are finally speaking out.
Was born migrant in this sh*tty country and i have literally nothing to praise for. Germans are rude and the goverment is blatantly racist. From the police, that post on whatsapp racist/xenophobic bs, to the judge that decide against you if you don't have blue eyes and blonde hair. The teacher are also hardcore racist towards black and arab students. And i live in Berlin... can't imagine what is going on in the villages
@ no, what those people are going through is awful as well, but Israel is supposed to be part of the west, one of us! And the fact we’re not holding our allies to account makes us all complicit, and secondly just because the plight of the Uyghurs doesn’t get enough attention doesn’t make what’s happening in Gaza right
But doesn`t history prove otherwise and that it is ever again and will always be ! Never again -Rwanda , Never again -Bosnia , never again -Uighurs , never again -Sudan , Never again -Syria . And some of these overseen in the presence of the very world organisation that was started on the Notion of 'NEVER AGAIN ' ! Let`s face it humans love killing ! Only a Miracle can change that !!
Volle Solidarität mit dir/euch ✊🏽 Ich wohne auch in Berlin. Bleibt stark. Und wenn es garnicht mehr geht, wandert besser aus (würde ich auch gern, habe aber nicht die finanziellen Mittel etc.)
Auswandern! Werde ich auch bald und bin keine Palästinenserin. Dieses Land, diese Regierung und die folgende Regierung sind kriegsgeil. Es werden dunkle Zeiten auf Deutschland zukommen
I have friends here in Germany, that aren’t (native-born) German citizens but expats or immigrants, and they’re now scared to speak out against the genocide because they’re at risk of getting their visas revoked. It’s absolutely insane to me. They are between a rock and a hard place with this… I will never shut up. I will continue to educate the people around me. I will continue to donate. I will continue to try and do my best to get peace and emancipation for the Palestinian people. Thank you for this video!
In saudi people are jailed or housebound for even mentioning it publicly esp the imams, they are falsely called terrorists and at the moment about 100,000 religious scholars languish in saudi jail for calling out the government and underhanded support of Israel and other things. My family is there. The Arab governments are the most complicit and most guilty of betrayal of their own people.
@@Angela-dq2pk sorry aber wenn ein pro-israel richter dich für volksverhetzung oder hassrede verurteilt weil du einen post in deiner story hattest von wegen from the rivers to the sea hast du eine straftat begannen und verlierst deine aufenthaltsgenehmigung
Leider interessiert/schmerzt das hier tatsächlich kaum jemanden, würde mir gerne einbilden dass ich nicht von Arschlöchern und CDU/AFD Wählern umgeben bin aber das bin ich.
Was never so ashamed to be german.. it's outrageous how politics treat the situation. And due to some laws they passed you even have to be afraid to be jailed for antisemitism if you are pro Palestine / criticize I. It's pretty shocking to see the situation. Luckily I don't live in Germany anymore. I hope Europe's politicians will soon all stand up for the rights of the Palestinian people. 🙏🇵🇸🍉
I smiled so brightly when I saw this young woman in front of me on the street look around, then quickly place a sticker which read 'Free Palestine'. I felt like I was going mad the way that noone was talking about it, in my friend group the topic never comes up since october last year. The silence is deafening. And from the media all I see are sporadic reports about some hostage family or something happening in Gaza that is extremly toned down. When I saw that sticker I felt for the first time in months that I was *not* the only person who had the Palestinians on her mind constantly. At some protests Ive met activists from mera25 and I am so happy to know that there is also a political movement resisting this development.
Having spent 5 years in Germany I know that the current govts actions do not represent the wonderful German people. Shame on the German govt and the EU too.
Well done ladies. We need more of you to make real change. I admire your courage. I am not German but have relatives from my partner's side who keep regurgitating what they read in their German "legacy media" e.g. "this wouldn't happen if Hamas was not hiding behind civilians". They can't see beyond the real issue here. Well done to both of you and I for one will be following your work and will voice my outrage
I am German too. Soon there will be elections. I have decided to become a single issue voter this time. Let`s boykott the parties, who are in favor of delivering weapons to Israel out of the parliament! It is within our sphere of influence! Until that day comes, everyone should donate, sign petitions, partake in rallies/protests and try to persuade others.
Liebe Damen, Respekt! Ich wünsche mir, ich hätte Frauen wie Sie in meinem Umfeld. Meine Freunde wollen nicht mit zu den Demos. Nicht aus Angst sondern aus Gleichgültigkeit. Ich bin froh, dass Sie diese Tatsache aussprechen. Danke!
Germany in response started arresting people who even just like or retweet either pro Palestine stuff or stuff slightly insulting ("Schwachkopf") to the government. Yes, this is real. Yes, it's scary.
@@Novusod Germany committed a past genocide and is now supporting another, out of guilt for its part in the first. The killing is the same. The victim is different. The past victim is now the aggressor and the last aggressor supporting its past victim. Connect the dots.
Thanks for this. I live in Germany and even many of the people who don't vehemently defend Israel have a nauseating degree of indifference. Sometimes I feel like I'm genuinely going crazy here.
Where are the hostages and why are you not demanding their safe return? Israel was attacked. You loose, you cry, you play the "victim" and use human shields, shieldren. Where is your humanity?
But the majorit doesn´t support terrorists! Independent from what our brain dead politicans think! Their moronity doesn´t make us take side with your moronity!!!
With the resolution, it started to impact me very strongly as I rely heavily on government funding to do what I do, which is in non-profit, educational media. One post of mine in the wrong hands and I can end up on a list that takes my lifelihood away. The atmosphere of fear and self-censorship is real and at the same time I feel like a massive coward.
Thank you Owen for this topic. Thank you to your guests. I live in Germany and the genocide on the Gazan people is a topic nobody wants to talk about. Even among friends is difficult to speak out. Please keep up with your work, dear Owen. Your work means a lot to so many people❤
I am German too. I would recommend the documentary 'Europa, the last Battle', especially the first and eighth part. You will learn a lot of facts which have been totally supressed to the detriment of the German people.
It is very telling that the people who composed the open letter that is referenced here removed the names of most of the people living in Germany from the published list of signatories “as a precautionary measure due to the escalating environment of persecution“.
How can Germans not see where this is heading? How can they not grasp that their failure to act will be yet another stain on their country? Doing nothing is not an option.
It's the government not necessarily the German people, the many proxy governments for USA and Israel I definitely not representing their people. I think it's important to make clear that the majority of citizens around the world who have some knowledge and understanding are absolutely horrified by this disgusting despicable act of genocid.
😂das ist ziemlich weit entfernt von den Geschwistern Scholl . Alle die zu sehen sind sitzen im warmen sicheren Zimmern und brauchen keine Angst um ihre persönliche Sicherheit zu haben
@@w0lovoh it does. The maccabi hooligans know this too. That's why they were doing vandalism because they know europe is not yet as dumb a society as Israel is.
Agree with both ladies...Silence is complicity! Our press and media is not reporting on these horrors that are happening every day...I desperately hoping someone will take the media on from a legal point of view..
melanie und hanna ich danke ich aus ganzem herzen, dass ihr für das richtige einsteht. Und ihr habt es richtig erkannt. Jetzt wissen wir, wie es damals passieren konnte.
As a German I am disgusted not only by our government but by the silence of family, friends, neighbors, teachers!!!! …….I literally don’t know how to go an from here. I absolutely lost the trust in people. I don’t know where the 81% opposing weapon shipment to Isr💀el are. they are invisible. There is a great progressive community in Berlin, but to be honest outside of the capital there isn’t much action. I started protesting last November and our group might have grown from around 50 to 500 most times, sometimes 1000, which is a joke in a city with around 2 Mio people. They are literally ALL silent.
Deutschland liefert schon seit März keine Waffen mehr, und wenn sie helfen wollen gibt es sicher Projekte die sie unterstützen können , es gibt bestimmt auch in ihrer Nähe Menschen die Hilfe gut gebrauchen könnten
Thanks Mr.Jones, thanks to Ms. AlTaher and Ms. Schweizer. I also live in Germany and I am ashamed of the German government, Germany, which itself committed genocide in the Second World War and is now supporting one again. It is incomprehensible that for this government a human life is apparently worth nothing. I am convinced that many people in Germany are against the government's actions, but they don't dare to criticize publicly because they are immediately classified as Hamaz supporters or anti-Semitic and there is even a risk of being arrested.
5:25 "this reality is incomprehensible to me" resonates so much with me. Around me, nobody is talking about this, and when I bring up the subject is like I'm talking about something totally irrelevant.
"Those who go first take the blows, and those who come after receive the honor. It takes true bravery to lead the way, knowing the risks involved. Respect to Hannah Alaha and Melanie Schweer for their courage - they inspire others to follow and speak up for justice." "They have my full support, and the courage of Hannah Alaha and Melanie Schweer is deeply inspiring! We are in the same situation here in Denmark, where silence and self-censorship prevail, and critics often face backlash and attempts to be silenced. Thank you to these women for leading the way and speaking up for justice - it takes real courage, and their voices matter!
I would gladly sign the petition. I am now retired. Am an American. The last 3 years before my retirement BW gave me a Professorship at a German Hochschule. You are doing a wonderful job.
Thank you Owen Jones and company for your efforts to educate us The people of the world are traumatized and horrified by on going Genocide . Praying 🙏🏾🙏🙏🏻 for FREEDOM 🕊️ JUSTICE⚖️ For PALESTINE 🇵🇸
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germans always on the wrong side of history!!
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At this point Izrahell must be trying to figure out how to turn Palestinians into oil.
Stop the genocide.
you are looking really rough this days wee boy, it must be all those sleepless nights thinking about Israel. Time for you to get a real job and get a real life, lets see. I believe there is a gig going for a lecturer on repetitive lectures at the University of Repetitive Lectures.
It’s sick that laws can be past, that forbid us from criticising a country for actively committing genocide.
@@csharpe5787 In Brazil we have a Supreme Court ruling equalizing antisemitism, antizionism and the crime of racism. I do think the current court make-up would overrule it so people would be afraid to sue anyone and risk it being challenged, but it's still pretty disturbing.
it's not a general situation. This apartheid state in the levant is the one and only exception it seems. Even when the ottomans committed their genocide, the germans who were allies were not directly involved, they just looked the other way
Truly..
Germany has plenty of practice with that.
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I’m German and I’m disgusted by this collective silence and the support of Israel. That’s the wrong way to try to rework the German past. Genocide is genocide and we’ve to speak up as a country, especially with our past.
Juckt niemanden
@@DrEcKiGeRDaN88 doch
@@coolcat398
Are you talking about the past where the Allied powers projected their aiding and abetting an actual genocide being committed by Soviet Union Russia?
And to cover up this fact, they set up the Nuremberg trials, allowing Stalin to appoint judges and prosecutors to hide the truth?
That past?
DANKE! So empfinde ich auch.
Would it not have been better had they gotten a portion of Germany. This whole genocide would have been prevented. Even now while probably seeming ludicrous to most people this would be the only solution to this issue that has been dragging on for decades.
Since October last year, I have felt as if I were living in an alternate reality because I have almost never heard a pro-Palestinian voice here in Germany. The constant gaslighting by the German government, which insists that Israel has the right to defend itself without considering the historical context of Palestinian resistance to occupation, has been so disturbing. Not so long ago they made a resolution against people who dare to speak against Israel. I hope many more Germans will speak out about this.
@@GitaSavitriDevi exactly the same feeling...
The same in Germany: Documentary on channel: TruthTower with Matthew Tower
Israel owns your government
Germans should defy the govt & protest on mass.
The USA owns you now, this is why.
Those who deny the genocide in Gaza as equally complicit in it.
Oh bs. Plenty of ppl argue the in part definition requires more deaths than Gaza because otherwise every individual death or group of 2 could be called a genocide.
If they call it ethnic cleansing beyond the pale and call on Israel to stop, you're a coward for saying they support genocide for not defining Gaza that way.
Then you are an accomplice to Hamas' attack on Israel.
I know enough goverments who bow to you know who......
i truly never have thought that there would be mind twisted supporters of gncd!
Of all comments here, this is the most obvious and the most valuable. It's also the one that didn't get a single comment. But the 241 likes are something. +1 in a moment.
I am a foreign student studying in Germany. The government has passed a new law which bans students to speak about Israel. Our University has right to ex-matriculate us from our course if we speak anything against Israel. That means my temporary residence permit will expire on the moment when we become ex-matriculate from our course. One of my friend were sent back to my country because he posted a video of Palestine. His career became vanish after that. We are in a horror state.
( Hi, this is an edit of my comment, I mixed resolution with low. It was completely my mistake and I apologize for the misinformation. Though the story of my friend was correct. )
Are you going to allow your principles to be controlled?
Sit this one out and concentrate on your studies. There will be other atrocities in the future that you can speak up against when you are in a less vulnerable position.
@@farmergeddonwhat
Resist!
@@farmergeddonwe can advocate on his behalf.
As a German married to a Palestinian who lost many relatives in Gaza over the past months I am overjoyed to see this discussion!!! Thank you Owen, Hanna and Melanie and thank you, Hanna and Melanie for your braverie to question the status quo!!!!!
My sincere condolences to your partner for their loss, I can't imagine the horror and helplessness. Wünsche euch beiden viel Kraft und dass es bald Lichtblicke gibt.
@@Emma-Maze❤
From here, also, sincere condolences,- so sorry for all the suffering induced by this criminal and inhumane political agenda!
Freut mich sehr solche Menschen dabeizusehen!!
So sorry for your loss. The tragedy the people in Gaza and Lebanon are suffering is abominable. We in the USA will keep fighting. This is not what our fathers fought for.
I survived a genocide and lost family members, I would not wish genocide on anyone no matter what colour you are no matter what background you are, genocide is a evil act. Genocide should be a red line for the world. No to genocide, yes to peace and humanity. FREE PALESTINE ❤🇵🇸
Solidarity from a fellow badger.
Well said
It's ridiculous that that point has to be reiterated for some people.
Never Again is meaningless unless it means Never Again for ANYONE regardless of race, religion or nationality!
glad to hear about german voices against genocide.
Free Lebanon 🇱🇧 from iran 🏳️🌈
They are united in a common just cause.
they actually have the most violent police in the west from what i see from france. those standing fro palestinian people are fully committed i swear
That's sad if you felt you had t leave@@gesundePferde
@@FreeLebanon-z2nWhy are you using the tel aviv flag for Persia?
My 95 years old mother from Belgium told me a long time ago : Beware, for after the last of my generation will have expired, it will happen again… And here we are…
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The wisdom and the horror at its realization makes me shudder!
Thats so powerful
It makes me Shudder & Tremble
Oof. That hits.
I live in Germany and I can only 100% agree with these women. There is a media blackout. One example, 3 days after the soccer scandal in Amsterdam revealing the real story, I have only seen one report correcting the original reporting about antisemitism against Israeli soccer fans. These reports are all still out there. So well said, especially at the end...Where will this lead if we all stay silent on such violations of international law. We will be next. Thanks so much to you all.
This is so true. I also live in Germany and have been sickened at the knee-jerk support for Israel's actions even in the allegedly left-wing press.
I heard that ARD retracted their broadcaste portraying the Israeli hooligans as victims, and that they apologized. I am just not sure it got to the public. I don't trust the ARD. Can anyone give me more Info on that?
@@steveholmes5939 Would be interesting to know. I just googled headlines and can only find one article from JW telling the correct story.
True, but the citizens could do something. Wearing a water melon sign for example. But they do NOTHING except parroting Israel has the right to defend....
yesterday wdr had a video that still reflected the narrative of "rampant antisemitism"
Its disgusting.
As a German, I am surprised to hear about the initiative here for the first time. I really appreciate the effort. It's frightening to see how little criticism there is in Germany.
I am German too. I would recommend the documentary 'Europa, the last Battle', especially the first and eighth part. You will learn a lot of facts which have been totally supressed to the detriment of the German people.
@@gudrunclarke4976yes!!! tbh it's a different take on the historic events and much more believable then what we were taught ,it all makes sense
Did you, germans think OT believe that they would let you go and be free after the ww2?
Your system and politics was designed in their service.
You believe you live in democracy and freedom.
Is it? Not for me. I live in Germany. I observe the people here and I'm quite shocked.
German media are insane too. You barely hear anything about Israeli crimes, not even from supposedly left-wing outlets.
As a German academic I agree 💯!
Thank you for your post.
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Massive respect to Hanna and Melanie for their bravery and humanity. Thank you👋👋👋👋
Proud that our member Melanie Schweizer was able to speak out here! We are the German party that says: Stop the genocide! And to the German government: Stop your complicity in it! Join us in actively working against it in Germany!
By the way which party is that since try as I may I have not come across such thinkers Since you are proud please share .I have German citizenship and to date find the parties all in favour or extremely mute ...
@@HelenaMikas - It's Varoufakis' pan-European revolutionary project... which only has representation in Greece. A variant label for DiEM25. They're interesting but small. In Germany I'd rather find that kind of politics in the Wagenknecht List, with a lot greater popular traction.
I mean => you are one of the few left leaning parties we have left..... Even the SPD or the Greens are not "left" anymore....
Heard Ms. Wagenknecht on Glenn Greenwald's System Update. Loved what I heard!
@@LuisAldamiz Sadly both Wagenknecht and DiEM have atrocious positions on the Ukraine War.
The biggest disporia of Palastinians in Europe live in Germany. I stand alone ( not allowed to demonstate in groups ) sometimes with a peace / Palastinian flag at the small marketplace in my village in Bavaria. One day a Palastinian came up to me and said " why to they think we are not humans ". I thought he was talking about Isrealis, I said I did,nt believe it was all Isrealis . He said " NO I mean the Germans!. I had no reply for him and felt I had been transported in time back to the 1930,s.
The clarification of the ICJ on July 19, 2024 states: 1 Israel must leave all illegally occupied territories (Gaza, West Bank Land, East Jerusalem... Golan Heights). 2 All supporters of the illegal occupation are obliged to make reparations (US, UK, Germany..).
Yet the Israeli minister Stromich has drawn up plans for the annexation of the West Bank.
The US doesn't recognise the ICJ or ICC. It barely recognises the UN and certainly doesn't abide by the rule of law. Britain is struggling to be relevant about anything in the world.
Thank you, brave German women.
they really are, in this "democracy" you can get ain legal trouble for this
Bless these brave women for speaking up. Had no idea that it can not really even be discussed publicly in Germany without the possibility of repercussions. Thank you for your truth and humanity.
Es gibt keinen Ärger nur weil man in Deutschland diskutiert ,wenn man eine Meinung hat muss man nur damit leben das man hinterfragt wird, aber das sollte ja wohl normal sein.
@@Angela-dq2pk Da liegen Sie falsch, 1 Minute googeln und man weiß es besser.
Justice for Hind Rajaab and countless other children.
Justice for Kfir and Ariel Bibas. One years old and four years old brothers that are being held hostage in Gaza for more than a year.
Thank you Felix for posting Justice for Hind. Would you use her image as your profile photo, keep her memory alive.
@@thomasjosullivan9179 You are using her image. Thank you for keeping her memory alive.
Yes, I will try to use her image.
@@felixdim3977 Do Felix, there is also the Hind Rajab Foundation it is a group of Lawyers who are working to take 1000 IDF soldiers to the Hague on War Crimes charges
@ I think I did watch a video about this foundation.
Owen... I literally don't watch or listen to Western news agencies anymore. Keep dping your work and speaking the truth
So agree with you Shaun. I’m in australia and can’t stomach an ounce of our media.
Same here
@@AldoSesta"our media" in most nations has become their media... totally under control of a few nasty and wealthy individuals.
Thank you Hanna and Melanie! German national here, so totally terrified about the apathy and silence of my "fellow" Germans. Signed and shared!
Kommt alle zu den Dem onstrationen!!
@@DRUNKBEATZ Ist die Teilnahme eigentlich gut bezahlt? Wo muss man sich da bewerben? Iranische Botschaft?
@@Defenderofthefaith4christ euer gaslighting funzt nicht mehr. alle erkennen euch israel b0ts
@@Defenderofthefaith4christ ach gib dir keine Mühe euch is real tr0lls erkennen mittlerweile alle
@@Defenderofthefaith4christ 🥱
Wunderbar! the state doesn't speak for all Germans! So to the people, I raise my fist in solidarity with you!
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Stimmt.
What people? The most Germans are QUIET.
What's the point of democracy if the government doesn't represent the people?
@@dvegule920 There is a new law about antisemitism...
The fact that German humanitarian organisations refused to sign the letter ought to be unbelievable. What the hell is going on there?
Heiner Geißler used to say: conform, uniform, chloroform
They're Germans. The German Green party is one of the most racist warmongering factions out there. It's madness.
Where are the churches in Germany?
Something in America 🦗🦗🦗
Germans were silent the last time too
@@ihavethedocuments2580 the churches are silent, too
I am SO relieved to hear these voices!!! I am German living in Germany and am in total diesbelief about how our government is reacting. And after they just silenty passed a law a few days ago which basically criminalises critism of Israel, I wanted to leave the country. Because I share Melanie's sentiment of waking up to a horror movie every single day. But I thought I was the only one.
Ein Gesetz das Kritik an Israel kriminalisiert? Das ist aber eine merkwürdige Auslegung des Gesetzes. Es steht ihnen frei das Land zu verlassen. Ich glaube der Einfluss unserer Regierung auf alle Beteiligten ist sehr begrenzt.
@Angela-dq2pk Das ist ihre Antwort? Wenn dir dein Heimatland nicht passt, dann geh doch? Wie wäre es, wenn Sie sich aus Kommentarspalten fernhalten, die offensichtlich Ihrer Wahrnehmung nicht entsprechen?
Ich bin keine Juristin. Ich beziehe mich auf Äußerungen von deutschen Juristen, teils selbst jüdischen Glaubens. Die Basis für die Kriminalisierung ist eine so vage Definition von Antisemitismus, dass die Aussage "Israel begeht einen Genozid" bereits darunter fallen könnte. Und das finde ich erschreckend. Belehren Sie mich gern eines Besseren. Aber sprechen Sie mir nicht meine Heimat ab.
Ich spreche ihnen nicht ihre Heimat ab , aber sie sagten selber das sie am liebsten gehen wollen , ich habe ihnen nur gesagt das sie das dann auch tun sollten .Die Definition von Genozid oder Völkermord ist nicht das was dort passiert , so schlimm wie das auch ist. Was ich in dieser ganzen Diskussion hier vermisse ist eine angemessene Reaktion zu den Verbrechen der Hamas , sowohl an den Israelis wie auch der eigenen Palestinensischen Bevölkerung.
not the govourment alone. almost no one talks about this because they are scared. great "democracy"
I'm an American, and I care. I've been posting about this since Octoober 2023. The few people that are connected to me will never be able to honestly claim that they didn't know. I have also contacted my government numerous times. My heart breaks for any and all who have experienced genicide, as my Indigenous ancestors had here in the US.
Ditto as an American I have always supported for a free 🇵🇸💔💔
That is colonialism. Steal land and wealth, call the indigenous inferior beings, attempt genocide. Nothing new there. Watched the US do it in Vietnam and continued ever since. The USisrael the 51st state.
Why since October? Because you’re a Hamas supporter? You advocate for the killing of innocent ppl
Am devastated that I have been Permanently banned from X with no prior warning. Have been posting relentlessly about Gaza since last November and now feeling total despair at not being able to keep up with current truthful news & do my bit at spreading it. I began posting about Gaza last Nov and by time of banning had reposted over 33000 times...just about Gaza. Am so sad, angry and frustrated. Please keep making these videos so those of us banned like me can keep up to date. Thank you.
Banned fromX the truth is USA will demand control of X or will cancel X.
I share your dispair. We've got to stick together and support each other.
It is turning into a Supremacist haven. There are still pockets of food, but just as you were, they are slowly being removed.
X and musk are free speech champions?
The ministry of truth is proud
Илон,Цукерберг,и другие богачи рабы сионистов,они свою душу продали дьяволу,они продали будущее человечества, Цукерберг строить для себя тайны бункер,то есть он ясно осазноет что творит большой грех,и он осознает что он часть сионистов сатанистов который творят геноцид мирового масштаба.
As a German citizen who lives abroad I applaud this human for speaking up about German cowardice and its history of arming Israel.
Hearing that the MAJORITY of ALL THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of people that have died are CHILDREN between the age of 5-9 is a nightmare. I flat out cry just hearing that.. We have lost our humanity. I know we are millions of people around the world that are mortified by this, but it just goes on. Evil has its clutches in power everywhere..
why's that? you are saying some people--children---have more right to live than others.
@egay86292 No, I think @kungmeek's comment reflects a very basic human - not just belief, but also instinct, that our next generation of vulnerable, defenceless young need to be protected, sheltered, fed, supported & helped in every way possible to grow to maturity.
Not that they have 'more right to live' than others do.
What a bizarre interpretation of someone's grief about innocent, defenceless children being killed in their thousands in a so called 'war'.
And it's not just a human trait, though I could cite numerous examples of human society's laws & regulations enacted to protect children.
Even the maternal instinct of numerous animals is to defend their offspring at the risk of their own death.
Indeed the Israeli lobby has its vile tentacles in every western government. They lobby Britain, the EU , Australia, Canada, etc. We should all route out this evil from our governments.
Children are the primary victims:
the largest group is aged 5 to 9,
followed by those 10 to 14.
Babies aged 0 to 4 form the third-largest group,
and the fourth is adolescents aged 15 to 19.
This is not the order just among kids. This is among all age demographics.
I tried to give more info but the complicit YT immediately deletes it. I'm surprised it allowed me this comment.
The next demographic after 15 to 19 is age 30-34,
then 25-29,
then 20-24.
Then, from age 34 and up, the number decreases with age.
It is extraordinarily clear who their preferred victims are.
Thank you, Owen! I live in Germany and knowing that I'm not alone is a relief. I almost gave up. It's a very scary atmosphere..it's so sad..they want to silence us..it's against all the values they taught us
Can I ask if you think most people feel like you or us it hard to gauge?
I’ll be thinking of you today, and others who are in your position. You probably won’t feel it, but hopefully you’re aware that people all over the world will be standing with you today. You’re not alone 😊
Same!!! I thought I must be going crazy. It is such a relief to know I am not alone. But I was so proud of being able to speak my mind freely in Germany. So I thought.
Being a Swiss/ Dutch living in Germany married to a German I have been utterly shocked by the silence and non-action here. I have experienced first hand the gaslighting and refusal to speak out about Palestine - even if not, then the ongoing genocide, human rights? - among friends and family. Phrases such as "it´s too complicated", " I rather not talk about politics", "not sure it is a genocide" or simply the silence as the word Palestine comes up...pretty much tells it all. Being accused of being too sensitive, overreacting, overdoing it, and that it would be best to avoid constantly looking at the horrible images as it is important to self-protect ..are some of the common reactions to it. But even so, let´s admit...it would still be easy to stand for basic human rights knowing the numbers and thousands of law infractions. But none have joined on the streets, none have liked a post, none have spoken out. The media coverage in Germany is ridiculizing, gaslighting, silencing and simply not showing this genocide and is extensively misusing the "Antisemitism" stamp on everything. I am seriously considering moving out of this country where I do not feel safe or comfortable even wearing my Palestine pin...I honestly do not want my kids to grow up with such mentality. But if we all leave, who would be left to resist and oppose.
You are a wonderful person, that last sentence is especially powerful! i totally agree with you and your thoughts here- wayyy too many people have these “neutral” or “don’t wanna be involved” kind of reactions in general and it’s horrible to see.
It’s actually ironic because I feel like it’s way more terrifying for me to think of the thought that I closed my eyes and looked the other way while children were targeted and killed and non fighters and regular people tortured and starved everyday while I lived my luxury life.
"A part of my soul is dying everyday as I witness what's happening." That fairly describes my state for the past year Melanie.
Yes, absolutely 💔
Melanie you describe how I feel about the indifference of my government and media. My heart breaks for the Palestinian people
@meetontheledge1380 you must be CIA bcs you just read my mind ❤️
UK and Germany criticising China and Russia for lack of democracy and freedom of speech in their country is like POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK
at least uk is self critcal. the shithoele germany is not even that
Thank you for inviting Hanna and Melanie. I could not agree more. I am based in Germany and the collective silence and cowardice saddens me deeply. Thank you Hanna and Melanie. You are amazing.
As an Icelander, I hereby state that if the Icelandic government tries to pass laws to silence people, I will simply be thrown into the penitentiary, I will not be silenced.
Iceland too? Sad.
Thank you ❤
@LuisAldamiz
No, they haven't yet, but if they do, I will not be silenced.
Iceland is an irrelevant, cold, windy island near the North Pole.
I'm in the US, same here. My big mouth reverates off buildings down town.💛✌️🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Yes sisters thats so true i am german myself i live in germany.
There is this fear to talk openly about this topic because they will call you an antisemite.
Proud of you sisters❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Proud of you Owen once again
Don't be scared of that label, it doesn't mean anything anymore.
I am German too. I would recommend the documentary 'Europa, the last Battle', especially the first and eighth part. You will learn a lot of facts which have been totally supressed to the detriment of the German people.
@@gudrunclarke4976 danke 😊
TYPICAL WEAPONIZATION OF ANTISEMETIZIM AGAINST THOSE RIGHTLY SPEAKING OUT AGAINST GENOCIDE, A WAR CRIME
Kein Grund Angst zu haben , um Antisemit genannt zu werden braucht es schon
Mehr als nur über den Konflikt zu sprechen😊
This is one of the best, most touching, most real, videos I have seen in 400 days! I am so proud of these women! And thank you Mr. Jones. You are doing this world a service that can never be repaid.
Having spent around 16 years in Germany (until 2012) and being mostly full of praise for what I experienced during that time, the recent actions of the German state have left me speechless. Great to see that - even at this late stage - people are finally speaking out.
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Was born migrant in this sh*tty country and i have literally nothing to praise for. Germans are rude and the goverment is blatantly racist. From the police, that post on whatsapp racist/xenophobic bs, to the judge that decide against you if you don't have blue eyes and blonde hair. The teacher are also hardcore racist towards black and arab students. And i live in Berlin... can't imagine what is going on in the villages
Thank you Owen Palestinians appreciate your work The children of Palestine 🇵🇸 Appreciate your work
Great interview. Thank you. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Never again means never again for every one, beautifully put
Precisely!
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Except for the Turkish people in Chinese camps, then everyone is silent
@ no, what those people are going through is awful as well, but Israel is supposed to be part of the west, one of us! And the fact we’re not holding our allies to account makes us all complicit, and secondly just because the plight of the Uyghurs doesn’t get enough attention doesn’t make what’s happening in Gaza right
But doesn`t history prove otherwise and that it is ever again and will always be ! Never again -Rwanda , Never again -Bosnia , never again -Uighurs , never again -Sudan , Never again -Syria . And some of these overseen in the presence of the very world organisation that was started on the Notion of 'NEVER AGAIN ' ! Let`s face it humans love killing ! Only a Miracle can change that !!
Unfortunately germany is obsessed with red tape. When that tape is red with the blood of the children of Gaza it is literally tragic.
Sadly poetic
They love it even more, germs are immoral creatures.
We're simply obsessed with money and licking the US' boots like most other places...
not a real democracy then
I'm a Palestinian living in Berlin and I genuinely don't know how much longer I can live here.
Volle Solidarität mit dir/euch ✊🏽 Ich wohne auch in Berlin. Bleibt stark. Und wenn es garnicht mehr geht, wandert besser aus (würde ich auch gern, habe aber nicht die finanziellen Mittel etc.)
Auswandern! Werde ich auch bald und bin keine Palästinenserin. Dieses Land, diese Regierung und die folgende Regierung sind kriegsgeil. Es werden dunkle Zeiten auf Deutschland zukommen
@@julihc6752Schade, wirklich.
So embarrassed about our country defending and supporting Israel! It will be to our shame
My (Dutch) government is just the same. We're in the same boat.
You should be
No. Don't be ashamed. You are not your government
No, it will be your pride. Evilness, immorality and genocide is a huge part of your values.
@@edwinscicluna3623warum ?
Greeting from Germany .Free PALESTINE:
I have friends here in Germany, that aren’t (native-born) German citizens but expats or immigrants, and they’re now scared to speak out against the genocide because they’re at risk of getting their visas revoked. It’s absolutely insane to me. They are between a rock and a hard place with this… I will never shut up. I will continue to educate the people around me. I will continue to donate. I will continue to try and do my best to get peace and emancipation for the Palestinian people.
Thank you for this video!
In saudi people are jailed or housebound for even mentioning it publicly esp the imams, they are falsely called terrorists and at the moment about 100,000 religious scholars languish in saudi jail for calling out the government and underhanded support of Israel and other things. My family is there. The Arab governments are the most complicit and most guilty of betrayal of their own people.
Wenn jemand friedlich demonstriert braucht er keine Angst zu haben , diese Hysterie die hier verbreitet wird finde ich ziemlich gaga
@@Angela-dq2pk sorry aber wenn ein pro-israel richter dich für volksverhetzung oder hassrede verurteilt weil du einen post in deiner story hattest von wegen from the rivers to the sea hast du eine straftat begannen und verlierst deine aufenthaltsgenehmigung
germany is not a democracy
i live in germany and coverage and media is beyond shameless. We as the citizens are not agreeing with our government
Your government is controlled by Netanyahu
@yunogasai7283 Look, if you citizens do not agree with your government, why don't you attend the demonstrations against the genocide?
Ich schon, bitte sprechen sie nicht für das Volk.
@@Angela-dq2pk dork
Leider interessiert/schmerzt das hier tatsächlich kaum jemanden, würde mir gerne einbilden dass ich nicht von Arschlöchern und CDU/AFD Wählern umgeben bin aber das bin ich.
You are so important. Please continue and don't stop.
Thanks, Owen, Hanna and Melanie. You have my support from Canada. My government is complicit in the genocide and I will not be silent.
Was never so ashamed to be german.. it's outrageous how politics treat the situation. And due to some laws they passed you even have to be afraid to be jailed for antisemitism if you are pro Palestine / criticize I. It's pretty shocking to see the situation. Luckily I don't live in Germany anymore. I hope Europe's politicians will soon all stand up for the rights of the Palestinian people. 🙏🇵🇸🍉
SAME HERE IN THE UK 💔!
Western politicians are to a large degree freemasons which means they are tools of those we can not mention.
Auch hier!
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Please don’t hold your breath!
I smiled so brightly when I saw this young woman in front of me on the street look around, then quickly place a sticker which read 'Free Palestine'. I felt like I was going mad the way that noone was talking about it, in my friend group the topic never comes up since october last year. The silence is deafening. And from the media all I see are sporadic reports about some hostage family or something happening in Gaza that is extremly toned down. When I saw that sticker I felt for the first time in months that I was *not* the only person who had the Palestinians on her mind constantly.
At some protests Ive met activists from mera25 and I am so happy to know that there is also a political movement resisting this development.
"palestinians" think, they must be the center of world attention. They are not. That is all.
Normal people have there own lives and problems. Not morally grand standing about Isalmic terror movements getting beaten.
Having spent 5 years in Germany I know that the current govts actions do not represent the wonderful German people. Shame on the German govt and the EU too.
No government during the last 40 years truly represented the German people.
The EU completely dropped the ball. The power the US snd Israel holds over it... 😓
lies germans love genocide
You are right but what about the silence? I am experiencing that and it hurts.
Agree 💯 as a German
Swiss for palestine here, we also struggle against or unis and gov to stop "supporting" Israel.
A warning to the world: Albert Einstein Letter to the New York Times.
What happened to the famous Swiss direct democracy?
Well done ladies. We need more of you to make real change. I admire your courage. I am not German but have relatives from my partner's side who keep regurgitating what they read in their German "legacy media" e.g. "this wouldn't happen if Hamas was not hiding behind civilians". They can't see beyond the real issue here. Well done to both of you and I for one will be following your work and will voice my outrage
As a German I am deeply ashamed if the German state.
ya think? since Bismark.
I am Irish and I too am ashamed of Germany and now I am disappointed to be part of a union with Germany
You should be. So what are you doing about it as a German ?
It's not german since 1945
There is no German state, it's part of the American empire
There is huge frustration around the world; that we, the people, are powerless to stop this genocide because our governments WILL NOT listen to us.
Well, obviously then, they are not our governments, our public servants. They are our tyrants.
Usa rules the Western world
I am sick by Americans government helping Isreal.
Thank you Hanna and Melanie for your very important voices!
Danke Hanah ,Melanie u Owen für eure Stimme ❤unglaublich was hier passiert 😢
I am German too. Soon there will be elections. I have decided to become a single issue voter this time. Let`s boykott the parties, who are in favor of delivering weapons to Israel out of the parliament! It is within our sphere of influence! Until that day comes, everyone should donate, sign petitions, partake in rallies/protests and try to persuade others.
Freedom for Palestine
Vielleicht nachdem sie das existensrecht Israels garantiert haben😮
Thanks for your courage, young ladies.
Thank you for being our voice
Wow. Thank you so much for your voices and activism. Your courage makes me proud as a German resident.
Thanks Owen and thanks to your guests for speaking up!
Liebe Damen, Respekt! Ich wünsche mir, ich hätte Frauen wie Sie in meinem Umfeld. Meine Freunde wollen nicht mit zu den Demos. Nicht aus Angst sondern aus Gleichgültigkeit. Ich bin froh, dass Sie diese Tatsache aussprechen. Danke!
Germany atoneing for one genocide by enabling another genocide.
never forget the Namibia genocide!!
@dfgt-su9ki This should be acknowledged, of course, but my example links the two events I referenced because I believe they ate linked.
Germany is not free like gza
They are a proxy.
Ffff German corrupt government
Germany in response started arresting people who even just like or retweet either pro Palestine stuff or stuff slightly insulting ("Schwachkopf") to the government. Yes, this is real. Yes, it's scary.
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And where did those sort of actions get us in the 1940s?
A warning to the world: Albert Einstein Letter to the New York Times.
OMG.. it's a dystopian society😱
Nonsense ....
Thank you Owen, Hanna, and Melanie for speaking up!
These two guests speak strongly equally from the mind and from the heart
These two people keep my faith in humanity
Three
Thank you Owen for broadcasting this. I wrote to you before as I live in Berlin and yes what she says is exactly that.
Free Palestine from German guilt.
German guilt?
To stop a current genocide one must deny a past genocide.
germans are always quilty of crimes!
@@Novusodtf are you on about
@@Novusod Germany committed a past genocide and is now supporting another, out of guilt for its part in the first. The killing is the same. The victim is different. The past victim is now the aggressor and the last aggressor supporting its past victim. Connect the dots.
@@sma3037 britains support for israel is bigger than germanys. and it was the brits that financed hitler to power.
Thank you Hana and Melanie for taking a stance and thank you Owen for having people on your show who are standing up for humanity.
Thanks for this. I live in Germany and even many of the people who don't vehemently defend Israel have a nauseating degree of indifference. Sometimes I feel like I'm genuinely going crazy here.
Free Palestine.
Where are the hostages and why are you not demanding their safe return? Israel was attacked. You loose, you cry, you play the "victim" and use human shields, shieldren. Where is your humanity?
The leaders in Germany doesn't represent the people's voices
As in all other governments.
The truth is that they all go to the wall of Fort Antonia to swear allegiance.
@@nadine9053 but where are the people, German people, with their voice?
It is the same across every "western" society
@@dvegule920 oppressed. Same as the Canadians, and the USA, and the Brits and all the rest. Obviously.
But the majorit doesn´t support terrorists! Independent from what our brain dead politicans think! Their moronity doesn´t make us take side with your moronity!!!
With the resolution, it started to impact me very strongly as I rely heavily on government funding to do what I do, which is in non-profit, educational media. One post of mine in the wrong hands and I can end up on a list that takes my lifelihood away. The atmosphere of fear and self-censorship is real and at the same time I feel like a massive coward.
Thank you Owen for this topic. Thank you to your guests. I live in Germany and the genocide on the Gazan people is a topic nobody wants to talk about. Even among friends is difficult to speak out. Please keep up with your work, dear Owen. Your work means a lot to so many people❤
I am German too. I would recommend the documentary 'Europa, the last Battle', especially the first and eighth part. You will learn a lot of facts which have been totally supressed to the detriment of the German people.
Maybe they are not friends?
KEEP SPEAKING OUT. MY FRIEND. PLEASE DO NOT BE AFRAID. I FOR ONE ARE WITH YOU.
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It is very telling that the people who composed the open letter that is referenced here removed the names of most of the people living in Germany from the published list of signatories “as a precautionary measure due to the escalating environment of persecution“.
Which confirms that Germany is not democratic, nor respects human rights or freedom of speech
How can Germans not see where this is heading? How can they not grasp that their failure to act will be yet another stain on their country? Doing nothing is not an option.
hamas started a war. And now, when they are losing, the "evil, evil" WEST is supposed to "fix" it. Great....🤣
@@PeaceForIsrael122They're actually not losing and IDF has failed all their military objectives and Israel's economy is months away from colapse
You started more than 80 years ago..
@@ThaArabScarab In that case, pls, tell the pro-hamas demonstrators, they can stop demonstrating now. thanks.
@@PeaceForIsrael122 They're not demonstrating for Hamas, they are demonstrating for the freedom of the Palestinians
I thought Germany had gone nuts, but this gives me some hope
I'm German and 99.8% of Germans will never hear from this. There is no hope.
Its sad that Germany learned the wrong lessons from its past.
ha'avara agreement. Just say
It's the government not necessarily the German people, the many proxy governments for USA and Israel I definitely not representing their people.
I think it's important to make clear that the majority of citizens around the world who have some knowledge and understanding are absolutely horrified by this disgusting despicable act of genocid.
@@angelawilliamson6765Nonsense. Germans are total cowards. Self censorship is everywhere and that's what these girls are talking about.
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In Switzerland we have the same Problem
Thank you Owen & Hanna & Melanie for speaking truth to power ☮️!
Thank you, Melanie and Hanna for speaking out! 💞
Extreme bravery of those who signed the letter! The atmosphere in Germany is simply horrific. You are the Sofia Scholls of these times ❤
😂das ist ziemlich weit entfernt von den Geschwistern Scholl . Alle die zu sehen sind sitzen im warmen sicheren Zimmern und brauchen keine Angst um ihre persönliche Sicherheit zu haben
@@Angela-dq2pkwart's nur ab, so wie's läuft
The world knows the world is with Palestine 🇵🇸
nope!
@@w0lov
Yea they are as the likes on your evil little self’s comment shows
@@w0lovoh it does. The maccabi hooligans know this too. That's why they were doing vandalism because they know europe is not yet as dumb a society as Israel is.
Nope
Dude....the Arab world is not even for Palestine. At least their leaders aren't.
Agree with both ladies...Silence is complicity! Our press and media is not reporting on these horrors that are happening every day...I desperately hoping someone will take the media on from a legal point of view..
melanie und hanna ich danke ich aus ganzem herzen, dass ihr für das richtige einsteht. Und ihr habt es richtig erkannt. Jetzt wissen wir, wie es damals passieren konnte.
Wake up Germany, the guilt trip is over.
If so then how is it antisemitic to criticise geno-cide?
As a German I am disgusted not only by our government but by the silence of family, friends, neighbors, teachers!!!! …….I literally don’t know how to go an from here. I absolutely lost the trust in people. I don’t know where the 81% opposing weapon shipment to Isr💀el are. they are invisible. There is a great progressive community in Berlin, but to be honest outside of the capital there isn’t much action. I started protesting last November and our group might have grown from around 50 to 500 most times, sometimes 1000, which is a joke in a city with around 2 Mio people. They are literally ALL silent.
Deutschland liefert schon seit März keine Waffen mehr, und wenn sie helfen wollen gibt es sicher Projekte die sie unterstützen können , es gibt bestimmt auch in ihrer Nähe Menschen die Hilfe gut gebrauchen könnten
Absolutely. A people of Eichmans
Thank you to both of your guests!
Thanks Mr.Jones, thanks to Ms. AlTaher and Ms. Schweizer. I also live in Germany and I am ashamed of the German government, Germany, which itself committed genocide in the Second World War and is now supporting one again. It is incomprehensible that for this government a human life is apparently worth nothing. I am convinced that many people in Germany are against the government's actions, but they don't dare to criticize publicly because they are immediately classified as Hamaz supporters or anti-Semitic and there is even a risk of being arrested.
Its the same in the U K
A warning to the world: Albert Einstein Letter to the New York Times.
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5:25 "this reality is incomprehensible to me" resonates so much with me. Around me, nobody is talking about this, and when I bring up the subject is like I'm talking about something totally irrelevant.
"Those who go first take the blows, and those who come after receive the honor. It takes true bravery to lead the way, knowing the risks involved. Respect to Hannah Alaha and Melanie Schweer for their courage - they inspire others to follow and speak up for justice." "They have my full support, and the courage of Hannah Alaha and Melanie Schweer is deeply inspiring! We are in the same situation here in Denmark, where silence and self-censorship prevail, and critics often face backlash and attempts to be silenced. Thank you to these women for leading the way and speaking up for justice - it takes real courage, and their voices matter!
GREETINGS DENMARK
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I would gladly sign the petition. I am now retired. Am an American. The last 3 years before my retirement BW gave me a Professorship at a German Hochschule. You are doing a wonderful job.
People should sign the petition even if they are not retired. In Gaza people, children are dying.
@@dvegule920that is very sad , but children all around the world are dying and that is sad too.
Thank you Owen Jones and company for your efforts to educate us The people of the world are traumatized and horrified by on going Genocide .
Praying 🙏🏾🙏🙏🏻 for
FREEDOM 🕊️ JUSTICE⚖️
For PALESTINE 🇵🇸
Brave women speaking the truth! Free Palestine forever!!!
From the river to the sea Palestine will be free
Thank you