Great tiering! Sometimes please make something similar for c bills. I know, there are a lot, but maybe only do it for S tier. Later maybe something for E tier to know what to avoid and help the cauldron to patch things up :D
Glad someone from the MWO community decided to do one of these comparisons. I've always enjoyed other content creators doing this with games like Fallout, Mass Effect, Cyberpunk, ete.
I really liked this, the only constructive criticism I could give is that I'd want a little more reasoning as to why you think some mechs go to the rank you give them just so we know why you decided on putting those mechs where you do. I also think that would also help with engagement in giving us something more to discuss in the comments.
I like all the placements, my only comment would be to elevate the Desperada up a bit because of the insane laser (binary cannon) duration quirk combined with its JJ duration and take off quirks. They are synergistic and make for an above average poptart.👍
Timby Howl is so fun. As a heavy I can run TWO LBX20 with JJ and run 104 with MASC. That's nuts with the armor it has. Or if I want to snipe, I can run two HAG30s. All in ATM is good if you are skilled with ATMs. They aren't really my bag.
Pointing out the good and bad is useful. But this vid would have been a great chance to explain how each legendary is different to the in-game shop one's, and what they are capable of.
With the beach party going on, this would be a great time to revisit one of these! (A long form of the suggested video you did recently). Curious how your impressions of these has changed if at all.
I wish the scattershot was a bit higher, but since it got hit with the nerf bat, I would agree with your positioning. And I totally agree about the Urbies. I had high hopes for them. But without the quirks like the inner sphere urbies, they are just mediocre light mechs.
yeah, the clan urbies feel lackluster despite having unique build options due to clan weight saving that’s why hopefully the buffs make them feel equally powerful as their inner sphere counterparts
I'd love some kind of quirk or tool that would allow sharing intel such as seismic. Perhaps make it a fairly unique quirk to a mech like the Cyclops, maybe even require a particular type of TC. But it would definately help. Also, rear-view mirror screen in some mechs!
So if you dig around in the patch notes/forum and stuff, the Cyclops is SUPPOSED to grant it's sensor quirks to friendly mechs within 100 meters. no idea if that actually works LOL
2:18 as an Aussie I appreciate that you are the only streamer/TH-camr that I watch that took polite feedback on how Emu is pronounced and didn't just keep going with Ee-Moo. Thanks mate and thanks for yet another community minded video. Watching your videos has improved my game enormously.
Expanding the tiers thru F would have allowed for no overlapping ranks. The point of a ranking system is force objective thought and place it solidly in a rank; don't be wishy washy.
Mechs like Cyclops would be good if there was some kind of command and control function, where getting the intel and distributing it both helped the team and gave matchscore. Maybe a seismic ping that allowed for calling out targets. Cool to see where everything ended up though.
I'm suprised how many of the mechs you placed at exactly where i thought where they should be. Except Gorewing though, with full fall damage skill tree, you take 0 fall damage, lets you do maneuvers you cant with other mechs that has his firepower. Which means you can literally fly + fire with either 3xERPPC or 2xHAG20 or anything else. I'd put it at A tier personally, 2xHag20+3ERSL with 6JJ+XL255 is quite fun!
Gota give some hate on the urbi 2c placement an urbi with a hag 30 or one with 2 heavy LL i bring the pain with and have pretty consistantly gotten 4-6 kills with. Nobody expects an urbi to hit that hard
I would place the clan Urby in A tier after the patch tomorrow as is though I agree they are underpowered. The patch adding 50% ROF to MGs plus 10% range and 20% laser duration will make it a beast though.
Hashke and abaddon quite fun mechs. Armor of these mechs is strong as paper. But they nice to run. I'm like run Hashke with LBX-20 and 3 HSL, with max XL engine. 1 ton of ammo enough for late game and high damage. Sad that can't actualize UAC20 on it. Abaddon is abaddon. It deal damage!
ECM carrier tier list next? ie. why you’d pick a given variant over another. Atlas DDC is still a brawling powerhouse and can hang with other Atlas brawlers while shoring up the front line, K3 less so due to reliance on warm energy weapons, Shadow Cat B is a great, but self serving, harasser etc
That's disheartening to hear about the scattershot being so low. I was saving up MC to get it because the paint job looked so cool. Yes i do buy mechs because they look cool.
I would also consider the uniqueness of the mech, and if it changes something in the playstyle... In that regard, the Howl (legendary Timber Wolf) provides a unique option with insane range for ATMs, just that, nothing else, but it's for certain a game changer, since you have direct fire missiles (they can lock a little, but like SRMs instead of LRMs) for up to 2km easy, and nearly as fast as other projectile weapons.
it's also the only timby that can boat two AC20 or LB20X. in fact it can pull off the Moonwalker 2xAC20 4xSRM6 build, but be faster lol I dont use that build much, because, ya know, ATM quirks lol. but it's a solid chasis.
id have put both marauders in s tier. they are some of the hardest hitting mechs according to my own mech stats. this video is old but the aksum also goes up there.
Of course I bought the Juggy because I love ballistics, but I just can't get behind the rac2 build. I should have gone War Emu or Arges. I'm partial to IS mechs.
Blight is C Tier for me personally. Yes it'S a Marauder and you can twist and shake as if you are back in the 80s in a Disco, but otherwise... It has 0 Quirks. A bit structure and zoom is nothing, especially if you are labeling it as a "Legendary" mech das is currently available only for cash. It has two high ballistic hardpoints... Oh nice, but what you want to do with these? Dual Heavy Gauss will put you on Assault mech speed while having the armor of a heavy mech, regular Gauss will turn you into a worse version of a Thanatos (No ECM, no Stealth). 5 AC2 is a thing, but I prefer not to have seizures or getting my retinas removed due to constant muzzle flashes. Don't think that the Blight is the worst mech in the game, and of course you can have good matches in it, but personally I am not a huge fan of it. Let the "skill issue" comments rain.
The MCIIs and Clan Marauders are all such ubiqitous mechs of many variants, but I just can't get into them. We got the free dakka MCII a few years ago and you'd see like 4 in a match. I want to get into them, but for whatever reason I can't spend the C-Bills of $ on them. And I got Gorewing. Its felt like a lower range Peep Veegle.
I understand why you don't rate the Gorewing or the Urbies. You are an assault/heavy pilot. But my God do I tear with the Abbadon lol it feels pay to win. For me the gorewing was underwhelming, but I caught the groove and like it a lot, especially with the 360 and no fall damage.
When you're making a tier list like this, You can just.. order the mechs within the tiers, instead of having so many of them split between the tiers. You also might just.. need more tiers, and a better way to seperate the upper tiers
Desperada should be S tier because of quad snubs and giga agility, timby as well because of masc and can run dual hag 30s or dual gauss erppc. SC is def S tier as well. Other than that i dont have a problem with this list
i'm surprised the jugg got to the tier it did since they tried so hard to shoe horn into into just terrible weapons in my opinion still the worse legendary mech to come out
@@TTBprimethey offer a cbill boost now too. I think it’s worth it if u really really like the variant and can’t get a cbill boosted one otherwise (I.e platinum etc)
@@TTBprime With the yearly awards we get to choose Champion mechs. I have many of them and was hoping to get your thoughts on the best three released in the last two years - since your last videos on Champion mechs.
Scattershot was S+ before PGI NUKED IT INTO OBLIVION. Did 1,7k damage (3xMRM20) on my last match before the nerf dropped. :(. Now it's useless and pointless and borderline unplayable.
Love this! Hope to see more from you man. Only thing I would personally change is lowering the Blight; I don't think it does *that* much more than a regular 3R, but I still love it (and my 3R).
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Great tiering! Sometimes please make something similar for c bills. I know, there are a lot, but maybe only do it for S tier. Later maybe something for E tier to know what to avoid and help the cauldron to patch things up :D
You desperately needed names for each mech image. This is like basic UX for these tier lists
Glad someone from the MWO community decided to do one of these comparisons. I've always enjoyed other content creators doing this with games like Fallout, Mass Effect, Cyberpunk, ete.
I really liked this, the only constructive criticism I could give is that I'd want a little more reasoning as to why you think some mechs go to the rank you give them just so we know why you decided on putting those mechs where you do. I also think that would also help with engagement in giving us something more to discuss in the comments.
Awesome breakdown! I run the scattershot solely with SRMs, 104.5 kph and jump jets, it's a dps beast
luv the content please keep it coming
I like all the placements, my only comment would be to elevate the Desperada up a bit because of the insane laser (binary cannon) duration quirk combined with its JJ duration and take off quirks. They are synergistic and make for an above average poptart.👍
Timby Howl is so fun. As a heavy I can run TWO LBX20 with JJ and run 104 with MASC. That's nuts with the armor it has.
Or if I want to snipe, I can run two HAG30s. All in ATM is good if you are skilled with ATMs. They aren't really my bag.
Pointing out the good and bad is useful. But this vid would have been a great chance to explain how each legendary is different to the in-game shop one's, and what they are capable of.
With the beach party going on, this would be a great time to revisit one of these! (A long form of the suggested video you did recently). Curious how your impressions of these has changed if at all.
I wish the scattershot was a bit higher, but since it got hit with the nerf bat, I would agree with your positioning. And I totally agree about the Urbies. I had high hopes for them. But without the quirks like the inner sphere urbies, they are just mediocre light mechs.
yeah, the clan urbies feel lackluster despite having unique build options due to clan weight saving that’s why hopefully the buffs make them feel equally powerful as their inner sphere counterparts
i have them and enjoy them. Routinely get multi-kill matches and 500-700 damage.
I'd love some kind of quirk or tool that would allow sharing intel such as seismic. Perhaps make it a fairly unique quirk to a mech like the Cyclops, maybe even require a particular type of TC. But it would definately help. Also, rear-view mirror screen in some mechs!
Intel sharing tech or skills would be amazing.
Kinda sucks as is because the Cyclops was designed to serve as a walking command post.
So if you dig around in the patch notes/forum and stuff, the Cyclops is SUPPOSED to grant it's sensor quirks to friendly mechs within 100 meters. no idea if that actually works LOL
2:18 as an Aussie I appreciate that you are the only streamer/TH-camr that I watch that took polite feedback on how Emu is pronounced and didn't just keep going with Ee-Moo. Thanks mate and thanks for yet another community minded video. Watching your videos has improved my game enormously.
I appreciate that!
Expanding the tiers thru F would have allowed for no overlapping ranks. The point of a ranking system is force objective thought and place it solidly in a rank; don't be wishy washy.
Very useful breakdown, thanks and appreciated TTB! Now if I could just get the gumption to actually play again 🙄
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Mechs like Cyclops would be good if there was some kind of command and control function, where getting the intel and distributing it both helped the team and gave matchscore. Maybe a seismic ping that allowed for calling out targets. Cool to see where everything ended up though.
You can usually tell weight class by speed, and -knowing- that guy in D3 is alone, is invaluable.
I'm suprised how many of the mechs you placed at exactly where i thought where they should be. Except Gorewing though, with full fall damage skill tree, you take 0 fall damage, lets you do maneuvers you cant with other mechs that has his firepower. Which means you can literally fly + fire with either 3xERPPC or 2xHAG20 or anything else. I'd put it at A tier personally, 2xHag20+3ERSL with 6JJ+XL255 is quite fun!
THANK YOU!!! Now I feel a little better after you blew right through me with a double heavy gauss a bit ago.
You know, TTB, if you're going to throw mechs 'in between' tiers like that, you might as well just make the tiers from S to F.
Gota give some hate on the urbi 2c placement an urbi with a hag 30 or one with 2 heavy LL i bring the pain with and have pretty consistantly gotten 4-6 kills with. Nobody expects an urbi to hit that hard
I would place the clan Urby in A tier after the patch tomorrow as is though I agree they are underpowered. The patch adding 50% ROF to MGs plus 10% range and 20% laser duration will make it a beast though.
Helpful and useful. Ever thought about doing a Loyalty Mech list? Thanks again for your work.
I love tier videos. Mech tier. Weapon tier. Map tier. Tier tier. Until i tear tier.
Hashke and abaddon quite fun mechs. Armor of these mechs is strong as paper. But they nice to run.
I'm like run Hashke with LBX-20 and 3 HSL, with max XL engine. 1 ton of ammo enough for late game and high damage. Sad that can't actualize UAC20 on it.
Abaddon is abaddon. It deal damage!
ECM carrier tier list next? ie. why you’d pick a given variant over another. Atlas DDC is still a brawling powerhouse and can hang with other Atlas brawlers while shoring up the front line, K3 less so due to reliance on warm energy weapons, Shadow Cat B is a great, but self serving, harasser etc
That's disheartening to hear about the scattershot being so low. I was saving up MC to get it because the paint job looked so cool. Yes i do buy mechs because they look cool.
I would also consider the uniqueness of the mech, and if it changes something in the playstyle... In that regard, the Howl (legendary Timber Wolf) provides a unique option with insane range for ATMs, just that, nothing else, but it's for certain a game changer, since you have direct fire missiles (they can lock a little, but like SRMs instead of LRMs) for up to 2km easy, and nearly as fast as other projectile weapons.
it's also the only timby that can boat two AC20 or LB20X. in fact it can pull off the Moonwalker 2xAC20 4xSRM6 build, but be faster lol
I dont use that build much, because, ya know, ATM quirks lol. but it's a solid chasis.
id have put both marauders in s tier. they are some of the hardest hitting mechs according to my own mech stats. this video is old but the aksum also goes up there.
if melee was a thing, the combat shield build would be really funny to see and play lol, like that one transformers movie XD
Of course I bought the Juggy because I love ballistics, but I just can't get behind the rac2 build. I should have gone War Emu or Arges. I'm partial to IS mechs.
Blight is C Tier for me personally. Yes it'S a Marauder and you can twist and shake as if you are back in the 80s in a Disco, but otherwise...
It has 0 Quirks. A bit structure and zoom is nothing, especially if you are labeling it as a "Legendary" mech das is currently available only for cash. It has two high ballistic hardpoints... Oh nice, but what you want to do with these? Dual Heavy Gauss will put you on Assault mech speed while having the armor of a heavy mech, regular Gauss will turn you into a worse version of a Thanatos (No ECM, no Stealth). 5 AC2 is a thing, but I prefer not to have seizures or getting my retinas removed due to constant muzzle flashes.
Don't think that the Blight is the worst mech in the game, and of course you can have good matches in it, but personally I am not a huge fan of it.
Let the "skill issue" comments rain.
what is the difference for example between the scaleshot and the scaleshot legendary? i dont really get it
Imagine youre doing your duty as a mercenary, your reputation speaks for itself, and then Liao just nerfs your mech to B tier.
Feels bad man.
The MCIIs and Clan Marauders are all such ubiqitous mechs of many variants, but I just can't get into them. We got the free dakka MCII a few years ago and you'd see like 4 in a match. I want to get into them, but for whatever reason I can't spend the C-Bills of $ on them. And I got Gorewing. Its felt like a lower range Peep Veegle.
Not only would I put scaleshot at S I would even go as far to say it's the best medium currently in the game.
Can you do an updated list of this?
I understand why you don't rate the Gorewing or the Urbies. You are an assault/heavy pilot. But my God do I tear with the Abbadon lol it feels pay to win. For me the gorewing was underwhelming, but I caught the groove and like it a lot, especially with the 360 and no fall damage.
Maybe just add more tiers next time :)
When you're making a tier list like this, You can just.. order the mechs within the tiers, instead of having so many of them split between the tiers. You also might just.. need more tiers, and a better way to seperate the upper tiers
So when does the update come?
wish there was some legendary light mechs
gorewing is excellent with 4x erlls
Where would be Aksum and Spitfire
Desperada should be S tier because of quad snubs and giga agility, timby as well because of masc and can run dual hag 30s or dual gauss erppc. SC is def S tier as well. Other than that i dont have a problem with this list
I need to test the snubby desperada and revisit the Timby. Thanks for the ideas!
Misery has dakka, doesn't it?
Disagree with the howl, otherwise spot on!
Never seen somone doing a tier list like this, putting mechs between the tiers kinda defeats the whole purpose.
I mean, I got the idea LoL
Gausszilla has highest average damage of any mech in the game right now.... automatic s tier
i'm surprised the jugg got to the tier it did since they tried so hard to shoe horn into into just terrible weapons in my opinion still the worse legendary mech to come out
You need more tiers lol
Now… best three champion mechs released in the last two years?!? Yeah, we are demanding but that is because you make the best stuff.
All champion mechs should never be bought with actual money since they only offer a mech xp bonus.
@@TTBprimethey offer a cbill boost now too. I think it’s worth it if u really really like the variant and can’t get a cbill boosted one otherwise (I.e platinum etc)
@@TTBprime With the yearly awards we get to choose Champion mechs. I have many of them and was hoping to get your thoughts on the best three released in the last two years - since your last videos on Champion mechs.
@@christopherkelly9153Gotta look into that. Best chance to discuss this would be if you drop by on my stream
@@TTBprime I will give it a shot. I work long hours - 1:23am here now. Middle of next week I will have a chance.
Onyx is fun, but tbh, just buy a Yen Lo Wang.
with humor intended, you Mis pronounced Fatlas lol
Scattershot was S+ before PGI NUKED IT INTO OBLIVION. Did 1,7k damage (3xMRM20) on my last match before the nerf dropped.
:(. Now it's useless and pointless and borderline unplayable.
kasai is pure trash, no one can prove me wrong
Look like they need ad some LRM mech !!!
No
No. They don't.
They just came out with the Longbow. It doesn't get more "LRM support platform mech" than the Longbow.
There is a certain Stone Rhino that can LRM120...
Love this! Hope to see more from you man. Only thing I would personally change is lowering the Blight; I don't think it does *that* much more than a regular 3R, but I still love it (and my 3R).