Great content bruh. USB4/TB4 works just fine for eGPUs on these 7000 series APUs. Lower bandwidth yes, but it works just fine. Tested 6700XT, 6800XT and 3090Ti with TB3 and TB4 docks, and they work. The bottleneck will always be the APU so it's fine especially at these lower TDPs. Also these APUs give diminishing returns at higher TDPs anyway for the sake of battery life and thermal headroom in these small form factors. Now If we are talking full fat CPUs at higher TDPs paired with these eGPUs then we are having a different conversation.
Actually Ally only supports egpu over their proprietary connector, iirc. This should support egpu over TB4. So instead of "disappointing" it's actually better..
Not a deal breaker for someone who already has a gaming rig, the deal breaker for me is the customer service. From what I've read Ayaneo and Onexplayer CS is not great and it takes too long for repairs.
I hear their customer service is atrocious and you have to pay for shipping back to China for any warranty work if you’re lucky to get an RMA if that’s true hard pass for me.
The Steam Deck does not have USB4 so no eGPU (technically), ONEXFLY (AMD APU) does not have thunderbolt and does have USB4. Those are the facts. The ONEXFLY should support eGPUs, but my case is the Oculink is better for it.
@@games_revealed AHH thanks for the information as always dude. Thanks for clarifying things for me. ETA Prime has a video using an egpu with a Onexplayer 2 over USB 4 (so I'd hope the onexfly has the same capabilities?) so you can use a egpu that way with good performance, yes it's not oculink but performance is still decent and I wouldn't personally dismiss egpu through USB4. Though I wouldn't recommend going out and buying that setup specifically because of price and performance but if you already have the hardware then yes it's good
@AlexBurns1 if you google USB4 you will see it supports thunderbolt. This is YT so i cant screenshot here. My biggest gripe is he definitively said no egpu support which led to someone asking me if it supports egpus at all
@justswitched8841 This. 60Hz with VRR > 120Hz no VRR. Without VRR, there's not much point in such a high refresh rate if you can't actually hit 120fps, since then you just have microstutters galore and will need to lock it to 60Hz anyway.
Um What? USB4 dude....it works with EGPUs not only that but you're not limited to the expensive/out of stock dedicated one from Asus. Throw in the fact that you have 2 usb c ports AND a usb A port ALONG with an SD reader that isn't broken and this thing shits all over the Ally if you ask me.
@@games_revealed I agree. Look at the three big names of home consoles. Nintendo came out with a product that was different than Sony and Xbox. Even though the hardware isn't the strongest, they are now farther ahead because of their uniqueness and their willingness to be different.
Looking at 32GB handhelds with 7500mt DDR5X ram, especially with increasing AAA game demands, If the Rog ally had those upgrades would probably have got it.
@@games_revealed Yeah nothing beats Oculink in terms of eGPU support. ThePhawx proved that. Plus the XG Mobile port that ASUS uses on the Ally and some of their laptops is based off of Oculink which why users who own the XG1 mobile is getting very good performance vs USB4.
Im calling it now Alienware showed off there so called concept they just wanted to wait till more companies followed suit lenovo is suppose to be working on one dell guaranteed will announce one for sure
I believe usb4 ports can support eGPUs, albeit at a slower speed compared to those with proprietary ports. the GPD G1 I believe supports connection via USB4.
Would you say that this thing has the guts to do wireless pcvr well on it with games such as VRChat and Halflife Alex and others? Also you mentioned a EGPU does this mean that i cant hook up an external GPU to it?
It will run an eGPU with USB4. I should have clarified better that I want Oculink eGPU support. It should be able to play half-life alyx with the right setup, but I have not tried it with the 7000 series APUs yet
If you wanted a little different form factor why wouldnt you get the aya neo geek 1s? 800 gets you 32gb of ram or 700 for the same spec as this unit at 800. These Chinese handhelds just are not worth the money anymore.
@@ominousview ally is not Chinese and even if it was that's not the issue the issue is no support. In America or Europe you could actually call an asus support number and get someone. You could walk into best buy and return a dead on arrival unit. Good luck with any support with these Chinese companies. You'll get email responses a week apart, broken English, and if they actually allow you to send it in, you mail it on your dime and hope it gets there, then wait months for them to hopefully fix it.
@@games_revealed In rog ally and steam deck, is it possible to increase battery, screen and ram, too? By the way, how long does its battery last? ( And can you use SSD 2280? Like what they do on ally)
Does your tv screen have vrr point proven. Vrr isn't nessesary unless you've already got vrr devices all threw your house. But I can guarantee you now not every screen you look at has vrr.
@@liamfeatherstone924 My Tv and monitor indeed have VRR support. The Asus ROG ally also has a VRR screen which I believe all gaming displays should utilize.
@TheUltimateHacker007 yeah it's a bit like that. No perfect device yet. Need a steam deck form factor with latest epu and oled display with at least 1080
@@ivana6141 Theres more to it if you research, one example are ergonomics for the device to control temps, good joysticks, and triggers etc,, If you really need a handheld just go for the deck and wait till zen 4 chips come out. These handhelds have full on laptop cpus in them that cant handle on their own
Great content bruh. USB4/TB4 works just fine for eGPUs on these 7000 series APUs. Lower bandwidth yes, but it works just fine. Tested 6700XT, 6800XT and 3090Ti with TB3 and TB4 docks, and they work. The bottleneck will always be the APU so it's fine especially at these lower TDPs. Also these APUs give diminishing returns at higher TDPs anyway for the sake of battery life and thermal headroom in these small form factors. Now If we are talking full fat CPUs at higher TDPs paired with these eGPUs then we are having a different conversation.
Those paid reviewers 🤣🤣🤣
Actually Ally only supports egpu over their proprietary connector, iirc. This should support egpu over TB4. So instead of "disappointing" it's actually better..
I wouldn't say better because USB4 doesn't have as much bandwidth than Oculink or similar connectors
@GamesRevealedNow I get your point but XGMobile is super overpriced for having a mobile GPU. Pros and cons
USB c port for egpu lick the legion go can do. I don't know though
Not a deal breaker for someone who already has a gaming rig, the deal breaker for me is the customer service. From what I've read Ayaneo and Onexplayer CS is not great and it takes too long for repairs.
Yeah, AYANEO and ONEXPLAYER support is not great and the amount of new devices does not help either.
I successfully returned a malfunctioning onexplayer once...their CS is slow but will work with you
I hear their customer service is atrocious and you have to pay for shipping back to China for any warranty work if you’re lucky to get an RMA if that’s true hard pass for me.
That is really expensive too
This can support egpu with it's thunderbolt 4 connections. It's no different to the steam deck or ally in that regard
AMD APUs don't use thunderbolt as it's an Intel propriety tech, and the deck doesn't support eGPUs. Hopefully the Steam Deck 2 will.
@@games_revealedUSB4 supports eGPU. Check your facts
The Steam Deck does not have USB4 so no eGPU (technically), ONEXFLY (AMD APU) does not have thunderbolt and does have USB4. Those are the facts. The ONEXFLY should support eGPUs, but my case is the Oculink is better for it.
@@games_revealed AHH thanks for the information as always dude. Thanks for clarifying things for me. ETA Prime has a video using an egpu with a Onexplayer 2 over USB 4 (so I'd hope the onexfly has the same capabilities?) so you can use a egpu that way with good performance, yes it's not oculink but performance is still decent and I wouldn't personally dismiss egpu through USB4.
Though I wouldn't recommend going out and buying that setup specifically because of price and performance but if you already have the hardware then yes it's good
@AlexBurns1 if you google USB4 you will see it supports thunderbolt. This is YT so i cant screenshot here. My biggest gripe is he definitively said no egpu support which led to someone asking me if it supports egpus at all
My concern is no mention of VRR compared to the Ally
There ain't none that's why lol. Too me vrr is more important than the 120hz.
@justswitched8841 This. 60Hz with VRR > 120Hz no VRR. Without VRR, there's not much point in such a high refresh rate if you can't actually hit 120fps, since then you just have microstutters galore and will need to lock it to 60Hz anyway.
Onexfly OLED = instant buy
Um What? USB4 dude....it works with EGPUs not only that but you're not limited to the expensive/out of stock dedicated one from Asus. Throw in the fact that you have 2 usb c ports AND a usb A port ALONG with an SD reader that isn't broken and this thing shits all over the Ally if you ask me.
The onexplayer 2 is better..
The PC handhelds are getting so good and market is getting so competitive.
Yeah, I'm hoping that we start getting one or two unique devices from each of these companies each year instead of 3 or 4 similar devices.
@@games_revealed I agree. Look at the three big names of home consoles. Nintendo came out with a product that was different than Sony and Xbox. Even though the hardware isn't the strongest, they are now farther ahead because of their uniqueness and their willingness to be different.
Looking at 32GB handhelds with 7500mt DDR5X ram, especially with increasing AAA game demands, If the Rog ally had those upgrades would probably have got it.
If you think Onexfly has one Major Issue. You have not seen the Major Issues of Asus Rog Ally. Which is a LOT.
Im glad there is more competition in the pc handheld a definitely they should have added a track pad
I would rather get the Rog Ally but most of all I would love the onexplayer 2 with AMD 7000 series
Also FIRST!
You were right about the title, but you chose the wrong issue. This supports eGPU through USB4 which provides great uplift. The major issue is no VRR.
I think Oculink would be a nice addition to most new portable devices. USB4 is great, but the extra bandwidth would be nice.
@@games_revealed Yeah nothing beats Oculink in terms of eGPU support. ThePhawx proved that. Plus the XG Mobile port that ASUS uses on the Ally and some of their laptops is based off of Oculink which why users who own the XG1 mobile is getting very good performance vs USB4.
Im calling it now Alienware showed off there so called concept they just wanted to wait till more companies followed suit lenovo is suppose to be working on one dell guaranteed will announce one for sure
Bro, just make your research and then talk😂, usb4 is better than what the ally has
I believe usb4 ports can support eGPUs, albeit at a slower speed compared to those with proprietary ports. the GPD G1 I believe supports connection via USB4.
Right it can. 40gbs vs 60gbs for XG or oculink eGPUs
It can, but I would like to see oculink ports becoming a new standard for eGPUs. Not the biggest deal.
@@games_revealedit has the same support as steam deck & ally for egpus?
im broke, this year i bought the onexplayer 2 and rog ally but both of the have broken sd card slots already lol
The slots broke! That is a big deal. Have you got them fixed yet?
Thats because they both have the sd card slot on top right next to the heat vent. Should be on the bottom like all the other handhelds. LoL
Would you say that this thing has the guts to do wireless pcvr well on it with games such as VRChat and Halflife Alex and others? Also you mentioned a EGPU does this mean that i cant hook up an external GPU to it?
It will run an eGPU with USB4. I should have clarified better that I want Oculink eGPU support. It should be able to play half-life alyx with the right setup, but I have not tried it with the 7000 series APUs yet
@@games_revealed No worries and also thank you for the additional info 😊
If you wanted a little different form factor why wouldnt you get the aya neo geek 1s? 800 gets you 32gb of ram or 700 for the same spec as this unit at 800. These Chinese handhelds just are not worth the money anymore.
And Ally is which is also Chinese
Nope. Taiwan.
@@ominousview ally is not Chinese and even if it was that's not the issue the issue is no support. In America or Europe you could actually call an asus support number and get someone. You could walk into best buy and return a dead on arrival unit. Good luck with any support with these Chinese companies. You'll get email responses a week apart, broken English, and if they actually allow you to send it in, you mail it on your dime and hope it gets there, then wait months for them to hopefully fix it.
I think this is similar to when fighter jets competed to be chosen by the US Airforce between the YF-23 and YF-22
Will it be possible to make upgrades to it? How to increase SSD for example
Yeah, most of these devices have a way to upgrade the SSD
@@games_revealed In rog ally and steam deck, is it possible to increase battery, screen and ram, too? By the way, how long does its battery last? ( And can you use SSD 2280? Like what they do on ally)
Ok so wth is an eGPU?! I have a rog ally and idk how to use that part of it…. Lol 😅
They met their goal, so it will start at $739.
I figured they would. Glad to see another option around $700.
No VRR bye
Would be nice for sure!
The Onex doesn't support VRR. Major con
Does your tv screen have vrr point proven. Vrr isn't nessesary unless you've already got vrr devices all threw your house. But I can guarantee you now not every screen you look at has vrr.
@@liamfeatherstone924 My Tv and monitor indeed have VRR support. The Asus ROG ally also has a VRR screen which I believe all gaming displays should utilize.
its got dual usb4 ports so I'm gonna assume it supports egpu
onex fly doesnt have backbuttons
i'll stick with the rog ally
I would have bought this if it had back buttons
They added extra buttons at the top instead. You may not like the placement but those buttons are customizable
I just gave up on looking for a handheld with the specs of the latest devices and the back pedals etc like steamdeck. Buying a laptop
@TheUltimateHacker007 yeah it's a bit like that. No perfect device yet. Need a steam deck form factor with latest epu and oled display with at least 1080
@@ivana6141 Theres more to it if you research, one example are ergonomics for the device to control temps, good joysticks, and triggers etc,, If you really need a handheld just go for the deck and wait till zen 4 chips come out. These handhelds have full on laptop cpus in them that cant handle on their own
Gonna’ wait for RDNA4 on the handheld 🥹
Not a bad choice.