Toy Biz 1990's X FORCE: When HYPE and HIGH HOPES drove action figure selection. Rob Liefeld, X Men
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Scott Toy Guru Neitlich from Spector Creative looks at the unique character selection of the 1990's Toy Biz X Force line and why it is likely we will never see modern updates of all of these characters.
Considering we’ve gotten characters like White Rabbit, Xemnu, and recently Orb, the characters you listed here might still have a possible chance of being made in Legends form.
I’m glad you’re so well versed in comic artists, you know your stuff and it’s refreshing to know
With this entire videos perspective, I just want 90's image actionfigures!!!!!!!🤷♂️🤷♂️
X-Treme just came back last year and is a confirmed Summer brother.
Comcast is way over due. I used to pay my cable bill to him❤😂
Krule's cardback says he includes "shrunken heads" which brings up so many questions!
I was happy that all these characters got figures. I collected them all
*insert Comcast being a villain for us all joke here*
I wonder if you consider this the same phenomenon: Every new Star Wars movie is just making figures based on hype. Sure, it’s safe to assume the leads in a big franchise movie will sell. But there’s a landfill of, “Constable Zuvio” figures somewhere that were just shooting for hype.
I'd like to see a video of your x-men collection. Ever done one or thought of doing it?
The reality is the Video game actually made those characters popular especially Deadpool. Cable I remember they were trying to push him when Dealer in 90s along with Collecting. They had like Solo title that flopped it was strange. Punisher even the War Journal stuff was doing great then its like going or a dollar at goodwill or thrift places. I sold so many Savage Dragon against Megaton Man as that cartoon was expected to do better haha. I don't even think his jeans commercial did well. Image actually helped destroy comic industry using computers to do coloring or other aspects which devalued them. Even Spawn like the first 10 I think only debut is worth like 20 even Tick is like 50 or more. Toy Biz didn't pay the Tooling Bill to be fair or couldn't :).
4:15 - I had that Cable. Had to trade him in 3 times because the handle on his Gunnar’s made horribly and kept breaking off. NEVER had this happen with another figure. Eventually my parents just told me to deal with it or pick a diff figure.
I agree that a lot of these probably wont get made conversely though to use your own example of the super powers line there were quite a few characters in that one that were very flash in the pan but still got a modern update.
Silly as most of these figures were, Bonebreaker was always the goofiest to me. I’m also kinda impressed there’s no Skydive Suit Cable variant a la Parachute Batman.
A good piece of toy journalism would be finding out if there is a list of which Marvel or DC characters have creator licensing agreements similar to Liefeld’s deal with Deadpool. It’s hard to believe Liefeld would have had the ONLY deal like that, but if there are others what are they? Was Marvel offering these kinds of deals in the 90s before the Image exodus? One 90s character that comes to mind for me is Eric Larson’s “Cardiac” I remember when he was introduced in Spider-Man and I always thought he was going to be a breakout character but after Larson left to do the Savage Dragon I don’t remember seeing Cardiac again, ever, and I know Larson has talked about him and how much better Savage Dragon was from a business standpoint for him than doing Cardiac at Marvel, but I don’t remember whether he ever said he had a licensing deal. If he did, it might explain why Marvel never did anything with Cardiac. It would be interesting if there was a whole list of characters with licensing deals that Marvel and maybe DC won’t touch now because the profit margins are weaker than the IP they own without any creator deals sharing a portion of the profit.
I say make them all,let the collectors sort them out
Toy Biz or any third-party now is time, to show up Hasbro. Collecters need this ASAP
Who knows, maybe Bridge will be in the Secret Invasion tv series or something.
I suppose it also doesn't hurt when the owner/CEO of the toy company just HAPPENS to be the Editor-In-Chief at Marvel... =)
I wonder if the X-Force spinoff title will eventually replace X-Men as the brand name. The rumor has always been that Disney isn't fond of the gender x-clusive language in the X-Men name.
It’s funny you made this video, because I recently saw somewhere that Rob Liefeld gets royalties on all Deadpool licensing, includes the movies, which I didn’t think could possibly be true, but I looked into it and he’s said that’s true in interviews he’s done. Now I’m wondering if he had that same deal with the X-Force characters he created. Looking back now, and at how the characters have been handled since then, it would make a lot of sense if the original idea was for Liefeld to basically create a whole new subset of the X-verse subset of the Marvel universe for the purpose of creating colorful toys and other licensing opportunities and Marvel evidently was eager for him to do it, but after he jumped ship the opposite set of incentives may have kicked in and Marvel had little reason to keep going with those characters which maybe they had the full comics rights to but wouldn’t be as profitable to license. Obviously Deadpool is a major exception to that, but I would argue he didn’t really start to become super popular until the late 90s when Joe Kelly started having him break the 4th wall, and that was after Liefeld had mended fences with Marvel. It’s interesting to me that rather than focus on X-Force, which was supposed to be the extremed-up-90s version of Marvel’s teen mutants from the 80s, the recent movie and tv adaptations have tried to go back to the original Claremont/
McLeod/sienkiewicz/Simonson ideas for those characters, with the New Mutants and Legion, although I don’t think anybody has pulled off the definitive adaptation yet. If anybody ever does, that’s where the toys should come from because the earlier versions of those characters had all of the heart that’s needed for a lasting connection with fans.
I fully agree that the odds of recreating the entire Toy Biz line is very low. At the same time, I did just get a figure of Random That I never thought would happen. That was a full 90s set, and I wonder if it sells well enough if Hasbro would look at more collector sets like that one to fill in some of those Toy Biz slots?
I really love all these X force figs i hope they might make revamped retro card versions
Gideon was my favorite. Still have him hanging up on the wall.
Adam X--the X-treme got brought back in the mid-2000s during the San Fransciso era of X-men as a 90s extreme sports dude-bro.
Krule rather interstingly cameoed in the X-Men Apocalypse movie which was a surprise.
Great intro!
Two words: Ch'od 😂😂😂👍
Ha$bro goes where the money is, Nostalgia $$$
5x different cables Yes,
Hell, look at 2nd Stryfe, most if not all will get made
The x force guys always seemed more sci-fiey. And secret like. Way cooler than X-Men.
We definitely got older….. growing up 🤔
Just to be clear, you aren't going to come out in april saying that the Masters line being cancelled was an april fools joke right? I mean that would be so lame and would destroy and respect I have for you.
At this point I don’t understand how you still have respect for this person.
@@christopherleigh5616 I thought he did really well in his debate with RetroBursting. I enjoyed his industry insight in earlier videos. This channel is boring now