"The veils that we wear do not cover or obscure our mind..." Wow. That has to be the most powerful statement from this whole documentary. One that sums it up Perfectly.
Only 18% of Saudi women are employed outside the home, so this is not a realistic picture of the average Saudi woman, as he only interviewed those women who live in a more progressive, modern environment and are married to husbands who are probably more modern-thinking. Therefore, I don't think this is a realistic portrait of the "average" Saudi woman's life.
I definitely agree that he did only interview working women, but it really does show a glimpse into the Saudi lifestyle. A lot of people think that Saudi Arabia is just a big desert, but it is so much more than that. This was a glimpse of the middle-class of Saudi. They have beautiful homes, buildings, malls and hotels. In some ways they are even more advanced than us here in The States! I do agree that the so called "sharia law" they have in place is completely flawed. It seems like though muslim countries are expanding technologically and all that they are forgetting their true origins and beliefs. Women at the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) were treated like queens and princesses.
Silly woman, didn't you hear what he said at the end? He said that he might not have the real picture of women in Saudi Arabia, he said may be all women don't have education and may not be working. But he said that he met women who were working and have good degrees.
i'm a Saudi woman and i can assure you that that study is wrong because it's happening around me and most of the girls i know and see they all work and some have their own business. im not a rich girl, my parents are old school yet they want me to get a college degree and work so i can grow up independently. you got your statistics from 1980, or maybe from a wrong website.
+iDalisMediaTV That's so far from the truth, the women can only be treated by female doctors, they can only be taught by female teachers, there are all female malls so obviously the women use their education.
Are u kidding ?? 😂😂😂 we make in one month like what u make in one year 😂😂 we can be doctors, teachers and more than what are u think , I don't know from where did u take this f**** idea .. WE LOVE TO LIVE IN SAUDI ARABIA , WE LOVE OUR KINGS AND THE ROYAL FAMILY ❤️❤️🇸🇦❤️🇸🇦🇸🇦❤️🇸🇦❤️🇸🇦🇸🇦❤️🇸🇦 last thing we don't have taxes , the education and health treatment are FREE , last thing the oil cheeper than water.
I can work just for fun but when im bored i simply quit . Why should i do something about it . I dont work for money by the way if thats what u mean. My family provides for me till the day i die. Not until i become 18. How sad:(
I am an American male who taught English in Riyadh for three years. I am conflicted with this documentary as I feel it contains certain truths but also many misrepresentations. Women are highly regarded in Saudi Arabia but more in the sense that they are pampered, not as individuals capable of contributing to society. Women are not beaten down in the streets for showing too much skin, victims of rape are not punished, and the nation does not stone its citizens. These and other fabrications about Saudi Arabia that infuriate me. When all is said and done, however, there is still an enormous fight ahead for the women of this country. I try to be sensitive to Saudi Arabia's adherence to Sharia Law but ultimately do find it to be quite archaic and difficult to defend. I do recognize that I view Sharia through the lens of a Westerner. Yes, the nation enjoys all of the luxuries accessible in the Western world but their mentality is one that can truly only work with in the borders of Saudi Arabia. I have also spent time in Iraq, Jordan, and Egypt. Most Westerners wouldn't know this, but most of the Arab world feels the same way about SA as much of the West does: it's simply too radical. I also had trouble accepting the extreme hypocrisy the men display in Saudi Arabia. On one end, they so adamantly promote Sharia but the vast majority make horrendous breaches of this commitment behind closed doors. People were kind to me during my time there and part of me feels guilty for speaking badly about the country as a whole. The other part of me feels that documentaries like this probably shine too positive of a light on SA; the reality is much more harsh than these accounts would indicate.
That kinda sums it up. People who haven't been there keep talking about it like it's North Korea or something. It is a conservative and fairly civilised place. They do have social issues but it's still nowhere as extreme as the places formerly rulled by IS. Nowadays even the moral police have been disbanded. Women there do have privileges even though they don't have the same rights as men. I think a more serious issue in Saudi Arabia would be modern slavery.
Wait.. a youtube comment on a religious topic that sounds .. really measured & based on actual experience... and only 92 upvotes? C'mon people! (Also I have a relative who is a nurse & who worked for several years in Dubai as the 'head nurse/nursing director' in a hospital because she's good & also because I think women in that role are in short supply there (although I think that's true in every country, but particularly so there. She talked about how it's very different living in Dubai vs visiting it, and I think that difference left a greater impression on her than the difference of being a man or a woman there. (I'm aware that Dubai is likely really NOT a good litmus test for the whole Muslim world, but +Jay Petrova's comment reminded me of her descriptions, not negative, just observational)
@@Ye4rZero Strange enough, the nurses in every hospital I've visited in Saudi Arabia were females. Most of them were from the Philippines. And this was like 8 years ago when I still lived there. There were also several female doctors. The only other common occupation for women is teaching. So they weren't allowed to work as shop clerks/assistants, waitresses and so on.
It kinda bugs me how many people are complaining about them covering their bodies and faces saying it's a waste of beauty! Perhaps they want to cover themselves so they're seen for there mind and not objectified and looked at as something sexual by random men!
Augustus R She saves her beauty for her man. Not wear shorts that you might as well be naked. Which are spotted almost every where in western culture. That shit should be banned. But then again, any one have a choice. And so does a women wearing a Hijab.
Wahab .Goldsmith Wearing shorts is not being naked. Why is it okay for a man to wear shorts but not a woman? Why should only a WOMAN have to wear a burka but not a man? You say you value your women so much and that's why you cover them; do you not value your men? If you did, you would hold them to the same standards and save their looks to be only gazed on by their wives. Your culture is sexist and backwards. A man looking a woman's legs or arms at the beach does nothing. He's not having sexual relations with her and all he's doing is looking. If the men of your country really need a burka so they don't rape every beautiful woman they see, that's fucked up.
I used to hear a lot of negative stuff about Saudi Arabia in the news, but when I went to Saudi Arabia, it was the complete opposite! The people are kind and welcoming and I met a Saudi family who were generous enough to invite me into their home and I got to know their culture and lifestyle.
As an Indian I guarantee than the media thoughout the world is fucked up. especially the West. They see the whole world according to their own perspective. They cannot understand the cultural nuances. The west wants entire world to be like them and that's what kills the fun of life.
I am happy that they find peace in their faith and clothing... but their attempts to be 'modest' and reduce sexual curiosity by covering themselves so thoroughly actually has the wrong effect. Men become even more obsessed with what's underneath the black, they get excited just by a bare arm or a bare knee, and even us westerners who see uncovered women all the time... are obsessed with seeing what a Saudi woman looks like. How does she dress? What's her face like?
I just have one word to describe your statement "pervert". I have seen some orthodox christian women in Spain wearing all black, I could not even see their eyes. I also saw Jewish women wearing modest clothes and covering their hair in public.
INTJ-Skorpyo7 Why didn't you meet her parents and marry her? Maybe that was a smart thing to do. Just think... Her body could've been really hairy and smelly once revealed
+INTJ-Skorpyo7 How do you know she wasn't banging her postman all that time? You're very trusting. That's why I don't go in for long distance, not even outside my own city.
If a veil really makes them feel strong, let them wear it. Only, then why have laws and regulations requiring it for all? Abolish these laws, and let's see how many will continue to wear them. Then at least we'll believe its a free choice. (as long as husbands and brothers also don't force them to wear it)
+MOm4r I have no problem with anyone wearing them, really, my Christian grandma often wore one (not uncommon in the past). But as I said, if they ALL want to, why do you need laws for clothing requirements? If it is their own choice, you don't need such a law. That's not a free choice.
Ever heard of "the caged bird will learn to love its cage"? People who fled from Iran spit on this behaviour, that filth which enforces the wearing of a hijab or worse - thanks.
willzyx what a lovely opinion! you know here in Malaysia (we're an Islamic country), the veil is optional and still people wear them and many don't. And the government doesn't approve nor deny their right to wear it. my sister even want to wear it because she's uncomfortable with men looking at her. It's a choice, not a compulsory.
I'm confused. The misleading "Come Click Me" title suggests a video about Saudi women. But in 16 minutes of roll-time, we get 10 minutes of the photographer chatting himself up, and then...what? Two or three profiles are shown. Stupid. There's nothing wrong with a couple of minutes of intro with him, but can we get to the subject matter, please? While we're young? If we must listen to him for 10 minutes, can we then at least have a 30 minute segment of the subject matter? I trust that the subject matter is far more interesting, in front of the lens, than the man behind the lens...Vice, are you loosing your edge?
I'm Saudi, an Arabic woman. And I'm here to tell you that everything you hear about the Arabic societies is right. The other women who deny it are brainwashed and think that the least bit of freedom well cost them Allah approval to enter heaven. the rest of the woman who're not brainwashed are forced to do a lot of things by their family or the the Saudi low. The life here is absolutely unbearable, I'm in constant fight for my simple rights and the opinion of society is more worthy then mine, my life have to be in the frame of cretin prison or else I will suffer the consequence while being accused of unbecoming nonsense. the country is in a constant hardship with women.. no human rights.
Sorry to hear that, so are women not allowed to get an education and work in Saudi Arabia? I asked because some of the rules are just a bit too extreme, I am a muslim but I still don't understand why they don't give women the right to drive.
+Noble Intellect i hate to say this but you are right wahabism is killing us thats why king abdullah may his soul rest in heaven fought them by introducing scholarship program to open our minds a little bit and balance the extreme of wahabism to become a good muslim.
+Noble Intellect the royal family supporting the dominant party in saudi arabia its like we have whhabi and liberal one so they are smart enough to not to go against them coz the will destabilise the whole country since they are the dominant one but am ok with the royal family just am not ok with giving them a lot of power but they are loosing there support and power with time.
فهد العنزي ***** the majority of Saudi Arabia are Wahabis .. so basically Saudis ruined Saudia Arabia ? This is the first time I see a non Arab talking about the theory of Judaism conspiracy. Don't believe it sir this is just a method for my fellows Arabs to use another religion as hanger for all the bad things that Arab do. Al Whabia Salfia is spouse to be based on the four school of Islam but actually it's a mixture of the uptight al-shafi school and old Arabic traditions which is based on sexism and ignorance. It was brought up by a Muslim Arabic Najidi man called Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab who was one of founders and the supporters of the becoming of Saudi Arabia . there's no Jews in it just Arabs.. Muslim Saudi Arabs. and sorry to disappoint you but the problem is from the country it self and no sect to blame, the problem is in the traditions and gender agenda. the given roles and what expect from each gender. You probably love Saudi Arabia because this society was trying to look like it finest to outsiders, and not to mention you're a male and my society worship your gender. Men to men society is less far hideous, you saw the shiny side of my country. The small angle of men Utopia. The females side is not even the closest to tolerable and the sun rarely shines there. I tried for many years to see the good in my country but I failed, yes the government is good but then what ? Health and education in return for my freedom ? even the education part is based on the male guardian consent.. my life is entirely in another being hand, there's almost no Muslims in the nation of Islam. I tried my best to live the life of the brainwashed women. it way easier to close my eyes than to see but I couldn't. I even tried to defend this country with it ill mannered society to convince my self through this defending that I'm living the life of a human who have the rights of freedom and choices but I can't anymore. Saudi Arabia is not a place for a woman to live in. That the plain and the ugly truth.
Vex Tally there's some rules about this issue, parents are forced to educate their child to a certain age or level if not the parents or the child guardian will be treated as felons in the court of law. the concept is good but the foundation of this concept is poor. the guardians are required to educate their child just till elementary (so basically all what's required is reading and writing and simple math). and then it will be entirely based on the male guardian consent for this child education. the female parent does not have any say in it and either the child. for women the male consent is always required even in PHD. but for men it stops after high school. so yes there is a lot of cases where women were forced to stop educating because of a husband or a father or a brother ..ect (male guarding) disapproval but thank god it's rarely before high school. it usually happens with the higher academic degrees. Sadly women life over here are based completely on the approval of a man.
@@aisha2744 excellent sister. Greatness and dignity lies in modesty. Whens modesty is gone a woman is like plastic flower without fragrance. Woman is awra and awra should be concealed not shown
@@booperfect8894 How can u just assume that it's blind faith. There is always a level of understanding before performing religious duties and u saying that it is misleading says all about ur understanding on religion.
I can't help myself but comment that woman at 12:20. The way she talks about her work, so serious and businesslike, but in the same time keeping her feminine side in place was amazing to me. Her gracefull gestures, I must admit, distracted me from what she was saying, but it doesn't really matter. For her face says it all. In the same moment so confident, but also so mysterious and gentle like beautiful swan that's been hiding behind it's wings. It's like she is preparing to spread her wings and fly but she is being hesitant at the very last moment... ahhh And I must say I am trying really hard not to be too melodramatic here.
qwertzuiop 1 I think you are in trouble...you are in love! Seriously, my son said the same, that they had something so unique and they were all amazingly beautiful and intelligent.
Tell it to my son, he was so fascinated that he did everything he could to marry one. He is the happiest guy now, she has a PhD, 5 languages and so feminine.
This is just showing some wealthy familys, of course everything is better for those who have money!! But these women are a minority, the majority is still getting killed and raped. And it's dumb to pretend everything is allright. It's about misliding international information, it's about women that survived living there that are asking for help, that are sold at a young age to marry a man they never met before... Reality is cruel, I know everyone would rather believe everything is fine...
KaleidoscopeEffectKilled and raped? Women in USA are killed and raped WAY more than women in Saudi Arabia. In fact, Saudi Arabia overall is SAFE country with lower crime rates especially when compared to countries like U.S and U.K. How about reading a book or two? not a bad idea y'know Stop spreading pure bs you idiot.
Intergalactic Nomad that's because rapes are not reported in Muslim countries. so they don't make the list. but if we decided to count child marriages and pedophilia as rape, middle eastern countries would top the list.
latzobear Don't lump all Islamic and middle eastern countries together and stick to my country only. I'm not here to deal with your anti-Islam bs nor tolerating your stupidity when you act like a keyboard warrior parroting same usual bs without any actual knowledge. I can't emphasis on how retarded is it to lump all countries together just because they share a religion or geographical location. Exactly how are Somalia is similar to Malaysia? how is Iraq similar to Indonesia? Even UAE and Kuwait which shares border with Saudi Arabia and are all Arabic countries they have different laws regarding women. Child marriage in Saudi Arabia is rare. Average age of marriage is 22-25. If you can't back up you your claims with evidence and stats about the astronomical cases of rape against women here or child marriage then stfu & don't act like an expert on the subject. Now go and google news and articles to reply back and keep lumping all the 'Islamic countries' together, that's what you're good at..
Intergalactic Nomad I'm not talking bs, I'm not misinformed either. I read stories told by muslim woman that decided to abandon islam. All of them were rejected by their families and friends and knew no one to trust between the group they thought would protect them. Some decided to tell their husbands and were stoned to death by their own families. How free and 'respected' can you be if you have a police force to look and follow you around in the streets to tell you if you are doing something wrong, like having your nails painted in a revealing colour? And Stressed Taklehangs it is human nature to be attracted by opposite sex but not to act on it without regarding the other person as a human being. Don't women find men attractive as well? Why not covering them up? In my country I can dress as I like, I can use tons of colours and fabrics walk around wherever I like, whenever I like and no one has the right to do anything to me, no one even tried. Instead of telling women how to dress, when and where to walk, why don't you try telling men to respect women and their bodys?
latzobear so how can you base you claims if there no stats? child marriages are illegal in all middle east countries except KSA and Yemen. India has over 50% of all child marriages in the world.
I have noticed is that Islam has very important teaching. Christianity does not bring people to together, but Islam does. It teaches that EVERYONE IS SLAVES TO ONE GOD. Many people come to together and pray in mecca. Allah (God) created everyone. Why IS that Islam brings people together, and christianity doesn't?
bullshit..islam is not any better then Christianity..muslim killing other muslim is the levant..and know you want to promot islam as the reason for unity...yikes..saudi can't even help palestine..but in the mosque they spit anti jews sentiment..but the saudi army made apack with mossad against the IS group..i say in islam there is a lot of hypocrisy.
Well, you have Christians all over the world. If you're just looking at Christians in America, that would be the main problem. America is regulating and breaking up families for another agenda that has nothing to do with religion.
14:48 "Saudi women are like other women in the world and maybe stronger?" Really? That's funny because in most other places in the world women can drive cars, wear what they want, go where they want and don't have to be accompanied by a male relative everywhere they go if they are alone. It has nothing to do with the veil itself.
@@ariserx4908 No one cares. We live here and now. Especially when any sense of progress has been lost for centuries. Also, they didn't. Babylonians and Central Asians aren't Arabs, and it's all based on Greek and Indian work.
@@willzyxOfficial false, you and the lot of the westerns including so many Indians too love to take credit for Arabic texts and achievements. Ffs so many words in English are of Arabic origin do you every wonder why? Also Phoenicians, canaanites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Akkadians, majority of ancient Egypt (u can look at the demotic script yourself) are of ancient Arab origin, although not labeled as such because lost of people like to discredit Arabs, and try to paint the picture that they only came to existence just before Islam which is 100% false. Read this link www.arabamerica.com/the-origin-of-the-phoenicians/
@@lets_wrapitup It has nothing to do with where I'm from, I'm not Greek nor Indian. My problem is only with this claim that Arabs invented algebra, when the people responsible were no Arabs, didn't originate from Arabs, just lived in regions that Arabized. Using Arabic language also means as little as Europeans using Latin, doesn't make them all Romans. Persians even have a stronger claim to algebra than Arabs do. Arabs like to make this claim to algebra as some kind of proof of being capable of progress, while the people in Saudi Arabia (which this video is about) have absolutely zero to do with the people who worked on algebra, except for using the same language. Wahabi islam is anti-thetical to any form of progress, and this algebra claim is only used as an argument to the contrary, a false argument.
I love this guys general curiosity of different cultures and how his goal is to experience foreign culture first-hand and tell a story through photography. Amazing! One thing I dislike about Americans is that we form opinions on just about everything without experiencing it first hand vis-á-vis the news. Not a bad way to live at all, traveling and experiencing the world!
Yeah, so anyway, Saudi women have rights? How equal? Could they go and have 5 husbands while the husbands have only her? Could she take off the whole black bag and parade the streets in more attractive atire? Women can be charged despite being rape victims, cant vote, or drive, who is this idiot kidding. I hate this kind of denial, because it further helps throw a veil (pardon the pun) of silence over the oppressed women in that country who really do suffer because of backward bronze age mandates.
lmaof don't act like you care about women, in the west women have to work and still be mothers. I think its easier to be a man in the west than a woman. Men hardly do anything, yes they may don't marry more than once but they have so many women to sleep around with...Women here are so cheap, they get drunk together and take advantage of woman and there is no one to protect them.
Well Joseph Taggart your view is a typical western view of things. In US interracial marriage was banned in many states until around 1965. Women got voting rights in 1972 in Switzerland. It is very unfortunate that women cant drive or vote but that is not the whole story. In US women make 77 cents for every 1 USD a man makes, is that equality ?. Women still make up a very small percent of the management in many European countries, so much for equality. Wearing mini-skirts is not the end of it all (although, I am not complaining) when it comes to equality. There are many dimensions to this problem of women equality and even western countries have not sorted everything.
At the begining he says something along the line of: i can pick out those selected women i want to talk to. later: All the women we met, they all work and they all have collage degrees. NOOO SHIT SHERLOCK
because common type of women with no exposure to the world or education are less likely to subject themselves so videography or photography. thats why they had to be selected.
Mackaveli7 no matter were you are there will be people who are uneducated. but there is a difference between uneducated and people who don't work or dont work for "high class" jobs or well paying.
Gotta love Europeans who act so enlightened and their holier than thou attitudes towards Americans, while blindly ignoring their own extraordinary islamophobia. Need proof? View the comments in this very thread.
Andrew Wang Both Europeans and Americans need to leave the rest of the world alone. They shouldn't try to impose their ways on others and then preach about diversity and coexistence.
***** if you're blaming religious fanaticism on protestants, then you haven't seen the Vatican and its stance on contraceptives. I'm generalizing Europeans much, much less than some Europeans like to generalize Americans. Seems more than generous to me. The very fact that you're ok with saying that you hate and fear Islam means that you have no right to tell others to not generalize. There are good Muslims just as there are good Europeans, but if you insist on painting Muslims with a broad brush then you are morally giving me license to do the same to Europeans.
***** There is such a thing as European. It's called people who live in Europe. It's like how someone who lives in Asia is called an Asian. If I told you that I hated Catholicism, how would you feel? That I am buddies with catholics? Being an old church means nothing. There are some truly horrible practices that are very old, and the Catholic church perpetuates many of them. You saying that catholicism is the only religion that can be reached by pure logic alone is hilarious considering how you follow a book that claims that bats are a species of birds, that planting two crops side by side is punishable by death, that if a man lie with a man he should be stoned to death, that wearing two fabrics is punishable by death, and that the sins of some people is justifiable grounds to destroy whole cities.
***** First of all, if you're going for the "being old=good" argument, then no. Catholicism's not the oldest religion. That title, for modern religions, belongs to Judaism, Daoism, and Hinduism.
I am a Christian but have no problem with other faiths, unless they they wish me and my family harm. The guy in the vid seems a very nice person and a moderate islamist, which i respect. But extremism is evil, some muslims marry young girls as young as six, and hate all things western. But i do not blame all muslims for this because Christian groups such as the amish marry young girls also do not like modern technology, Mormons can have many wives. So it basicly boils down to what you feel is right, but if thier is a god and you do evil. Evil will be done to you.
Taylor .. I dont wish you harm ... as long as you dont go to one of the islamic countries and shoot "my" people :) :) :) .... have a good one ! :) :) :) :)
Sorry bud but you are wrong about the Mormons. We don't and can't have multiple wives. The ones that do are known as the FLDS, or the "Polygamists". Yes it is true, back when the church first started it was common to have many wives. But that was very quickly abolished and hasn't been practiced for many, many years. Hope i cleared some things up :) best wishes
They have no choice but to oblige specially in Saudi Arabia. However, in other middle eastern cities like Dubai and Kuwait women can choose to a certain extent. Yet most families and specially men ( father, brother etc...) would selfishly refuse.
what if a man wants to marry a second wife baring in mind the two women are obliging and more then happy? oohh wait they can't in the so called land of the free (aka land of the obese and stupid). you have your culture they have there's. maybe you should open your mind to respect. Not everyone has to do things like you.
waleed mukhtar You should know, waleed, that Saudi Arabia is an extremely obese country itself, with a survey finding over 1/4 of respondents being obese (and that's not counting how many are overweight) www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2014/14_0236.htm Additionally, the CIA world factbook lists Saudi Arabia and the US as having equivalent obesity rates, so you don't have much of a position to judge from. Second, we're the leader of the free world because we're not stupid like you woman-fearing morons in Saudi Arabia. Tell me, what good has come out of your country besides honor killings and gold-plated AKs (not that either of those are actually good)? We created the Internet. We created the polio vaccine. We've gone farther in this universe than any other country. What have you to say for your country? Third, I don't much care if more than two people want to get married but the systematic oppression and control of women in Saudi Arabia, which views them as equal to a piece of property, means that two women there are very unlikely to be "obliging and more than happy" to get married to the same man. Even if they are willing, it is likely because they have been brainwashed to believe it is a good option instead of finding that opinion through the ability to explore their wants and desires for their lives, which they can do in the West if not in the US. Saudi Arabia is a disgusting cesspool of greed, obesity, Draconian violence, and misogyny. I warn you that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Abdul Issack I'm just not into black girls. I don't really like their hair, and their skin tone is too dark for me, I like nice mocha skin, or milk chocolate. I'm not much of a Dark Chocolate guy ;)
nanasaruu When did he ever said they were here only to pleasure his fetish? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH FINDING SOMEONE ATTRACTIVE. Stop demonizing sexuality with your pseudo-feminism.
"they are mothers, housewives, they work, ..." but stil they are not allowed to wear what they want. I respect their ' believes' , but their intelligent voices are being muffled one way or another by the patriachy (and no I'm not a feminist).
They can only study very limited number of things... If girl doesn't want to be a doctor, nurse or teacher... then nothing is left other than doing house errands.
@@sickowawawa4014 I hear this a lot from non Muslims 🤦♀️. Muslims have the Quran, which they try their best to follow... How does that mean a non Muslim is going to hell? 💁♀️😂
@@misbahailia3345 cuz ive been raised my intitre life as a muslim and i havent pray 5 times a day for about 5 years ago, i dont wear hijab and never will, aaand im asexual wich is part of the lgbtq comunity and of course i support them as well, ive ask multiple ustad if im still considered muslim or not, i still do zakat i still fast, i still donate money or goats for idul adha, someof them say aslong as i sitll believe that Allah is your god and hes the creator of this world im still considered as a muslim, but alot of them says im not (abviously lmao),i dont think im a muslim anymore, i mean im literally cherry picking the the quran at this point i honestly apploud other muslim thats able to do things correctly, idk how they do it but i admire their spirit
Very interesting for me. I enjoyed the video and the narration. I lived in Saudi Arabia with my wife and kids for 2-years back in the 70's. I lived in a very small village at the time named Al Khobar. I worked at the airbase in Dhahran. My family and I traveled everywhere in the country and met with Bedouin people to the Royal family of Saud. My family and I were treated extremely well. I found the Saudi people, families, and women to be very intelligent and respectful. The women are strong not weak. They are educated and intelligent. They are nothing like what Western cultures think of them. In the West we say, "Do not judge the book by it cover".
44jarlaw I find you to be an intelligent young woman who has a chance to change minds for the better. I wish you the best in life. I have always encouraged Americans to travel outside of their country and mingle with the local people and their culture. Most Americans are ignorant beyond their own country and the only way to universal World understanding is through understanding. After living and working in many countries, I have advocated for America not to interfere with other countries and stop being the Worlds policeman. I hope and believe all people and religions of the World will get along with each other and understand each other. It is governments who are evil and people who are good and get along with each other without government involvement and propaganda. If we can not, then Satan and Jinn win.
WHAT were saudi women doing interacting/talking with you given that islam absolutely FORBIDS it, and if they are as strong as you say, why do they accept the enforced inequality/degradation islam places on them, or that males have rights to beat them
Glenys Wiseman Good questions. I am not a Muslim nor an Arab. I am a Christian man who experienced the Arab culture and many Muslim customs. My family and I had been invited to many Saudi homes and tents over a two year period of time. Sometimes the men and women would separate into two groups, men, women with the children being accepted in both groups. Sometimes in smaller groups or one family with another family this separation would not happen. That is just their culture. It is not forbidden. I say to Western women, why do you accept abuse and beatings? Is this the Christian way? Hummm. Maybe it is a human condition and not a religious one. Stop being ignorant and study other people, their culture and their religion. Their food too. Study your own history. Woman have not been free for that many years. Arab women are undergoing these changes too. You will become a more informed person not easily influenced by the misinformed. Something to strive for. I strive too.
Dethrone Idiocy Well FYI things have changed in Skyrim. They`re not welcoming Imperials like they once did by far. Nords are now trying to riddle their country of foreigners. There`s also no multiculturalism in Skyrim completely 100% for Nords only. What struck me was their general paranoia & mistrust of everyone there. Just sick shit. The vacancy adds reads ` Nords preferred` `For Nords only`. That says it all what country it is. I`ve been there too & didn`t like those people @ all. To hell with `em all, hope someone stamps all of them out for all I care.
I am a Saudi girl, we're very repressed people, we can not express our religious opinions, political or even cultural, the majority of people, the poor and the rich just are happy, we got used to slavery and tyranny with regret.
I see, what do you think about the western women that can sleep with whoever they want including with other women, work whereever they want- including porn and brothels e.t.c, can go where ever they want as well. But at the end of the this trend of women becoming like men has destroyed the social fabric. Children are born out of wedlock and often do not know who their father is as well. There is much more than can be said. There is the good, the bad and the ugly. In any case, what exactly do saudi women want anyway?
I am not talking about only the Saudi girl, I'm talking about people in general, we got extremists in religion and disservice to the real image of Islam, Islam is a religion of convenience, but we made it difficult and complicated
+Ihategoogle+ every place has poor regions...you can come to USA there are people living like they are in the Slums of India with high domestic abuse due to alcohol and drug usage. Saudi men are not drunk or intoxicate, if there are, it is very minute ratio.
mightyali I'm not saying that the US is the best place in the world. In fact, I'm grateful I live in Scandinavia and not in the US. However, Saudi Arabia is a much worse place for women to live, because they're not even recognized by the state as full citizens. A woman can't do anything without permission from her male guardian, which could be her own son. A divorced women may be thrown out by her family because of the social stigma against divorce. Then she has no chance of getting a job, because she doesn't have permission from a male guardian. I've read about a woman whose husband hit her and abused her, but her family wouldn't help her and told her to go back to her husband. When she tried to get help from the court to give her divorce, all her husband had to do is to say that she had been unfaithful to him (which, according to her was a lie). Then the case turned against her, and she was forced to go back to her abusive husband. I might not live in the US, but I know that such things would never happen there.
That has to do with family ties, a woman living alone is a queer thing in SA and there's this idea of having to provide for women, in Islam women don't have to spend their money on anyone else while the man is obliged to provide for his family. But the question is, are women happier in SA or in NY? I bet it's the latter.
It's weird how we have this perception in the west of the full black veils being sinister and threatening, but when you see women walking along the streets of Riyadh in them it just looks normal. Also who do I talk to about planning out my lounge with floor seats like that, looks like a cool vibe
Well actually, as a retail employee in America...a lot of these women use these veils and thick clothing to steal when they are "shopping" in the stores. Plus, when you move to another country...you either adjust to the customs somewhat (meaning lose the veils) or you stay where you came from.
Jesse R My wife works retail. When Muslim women walk into her store (owned by LVMH in France) they can count on purchases of fragrance and cosmetics. The Muslim women are not the segment of the population my wife has to concern herself about shoplifting. As for adjusting to customs, understand there is a difference between "custom aka culture" and religion. Several years ago a family immigrated from Afghanistan to live with their relatives here in Charlotte, North Carolina. This story actually hit the Charlotte Observer newspaper I should add. The young woman from Afghanistan was a devout Muslim and showed up to school wearing a Birka. The teacher made the massive mistake of proclaiming in front of the entire class: "Young lady... this is America and you do not have to wear that (Birka)". The young lady replied: "I am a devout Muslim. I wear the Birka by choice. I thought that here in America people may follow their religious beliefs without persecution." OH SNAP!... and that was in the paper. It is not culture or custom, rather it is the individual's religious beliefs and those beliefs are protected by the Constitution. Several years back the Mecklenburg County school board announced that they were thinking about instituting a ban on male students having facial hair. By the way I work with the Interfaith community. The next day I contacted the law firm which represents the school system and explained on what Federal grounds members of the Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh and yes Christian communities would ask the ACLU to step in. WSOC TV two days later announced that the school district had scrapped the plan. The Constitution of the United States is rather clear about protections of religious expression. Now there are exceptions. For example no one has a "right" to drive hence the reason you need a license. So Muslim or not, if you do not allow a photo of your face by DMV you do not get a license. Again this is not custom or culture rather it is about religion.
The most annoying fact for me is a lot of people focus on women's right and pay less attention on the wealth gap and hidden poverty in Saudi :'( which is more urgent issues I think.
I live in Bahrain and I'm an American woman, all American's are not ignorant. We live 45 minutes away from Bahrain and while Saudi Arabia requires the women to wear the abayas it is also apart of their culture. For everyone men and women they have very strict laws. The women here are beautiful and highly educated.
Carissa A So it's acceptable for Saudi Arabia to treat 50% of the population a little better than slaves on the basis that brutal misogyny is apart of "their culture"? How utterly delusional does someone have to be to believe that's a logically sound argument? And yet I bet you're one of those people who thinks France is racist for banning the Burqa, but Saudi Arabia isn't for banning non-Muslims on pain of death. Typical Muslim-apologist logic.
look at those houses, obviously those are the elite/upper class and are happy as shit. should have been more diverse, this is like asking the rich if they are happy...when are they ever sad is a better question lol
Day Meow ohhh yeah I'm sure all that money and not having to worry about anything is very very very lonely and sad. I'm sure they must live a extremely hard time, if you want to really feel empty and alone inside try to live in the 3.5 billion peoples shoes in the world who live UNDER what we consider liveable wages today. fuck anyone who is living comfortably while the rest of the world is suffering and dying due to all our greed which is exactly what those people are doing, meanwhile the entire middle east is getting fucked those people are living lavishly and like kings and queens.
Day Meow Lol, is that why they don't like to have many kids? Cut that "they're sad and empty inside" bullshit. Life isn't a fucking Disney movie. Nearly every rich person on this earth has an easy life in luxury. And who the fuck do you think is forced to hold up the system that keeps them at the top?
Jealous much ? :p Don't abuse them 'cz they are rich , maybe if you worked as hard as you get jealous , just maybe you might become "rich" , that is if that's your life's goal !
They're educated, working women. He stated that very plainly in the video. Also, it is quite common for them to have very beautiful homes. I have a few Arabic friends who live in the US and their moms keep immaculate, beautiful, well decorated homes. Don't be rude just because the film maker decided to highlight the women's well maintained homes.
Im not sure why it is this way or how it has occurred over time but Kurdish, Persian and some Arab women are just stunningly beautiful. Prettiest women on earth.
Funniest part is when he goes to the downstairs living area of one home, sees the size and blurts out "JESUS!". I fell out laughing! Let that soak in for a moment!
Beautiful pictures, great story, and absolutely lovely women! I loved this little peek into their lives. Thank you ladies and thanks to the amazing photographer.
I'm from kuwait , but I hate when someone says wrong to Saudi women, because they're so amazing and smart , the Saudi women don't have to cover her face unless her husband or her family said so,
محمد سعد I'm muslim and you're being closed minded. Not every american/western woman is as loose as you Muslims in the middle east think they are. Most of them actually have morals you know, they're not animals as you perceive them to be.
I'm Mardhiya, I'm Malaysian and Muslim. I'm not wearing TENT went i go out =). My husband dont have 4 wives. My father only has 1 wife. I do have my own driving license and i can drive by my own. I also have relatives who are christian and i do respect them
series360 Her point is that not all Muslim women are oppressed, like how the media portrays us to be and how the West wants to see us. Most of the 'oppression' comes from culture, not religion. If you go to countries like Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, pretty much anywhere that is not the Middle East you can see that Muslim women are free, just like how the prophet said, that women are the 'twin halves of men'.
But the writer of the article specifically said women unveiled and yet unveiled nothing? Just THINKING. What was really unveiled? That's why I'm asking.
Shylo Vilecoscious LOL Well this is called cultural differences. Photographer entered into their private places, normally someone from outside of the family is greeted at men's majlis or sitting room, he cannot mingle with women. Unveiled basically meant here showing your faces (the women) to the unknown man from the outside (the photographer).
In the video. Are you blind or stupid? The video literally shows Saudi women "unveiled". Did you expect them to be naked with their fingers up their cunts?
I was worried when I first opened this vid but as a Saudi woman I did not find a single inaccurate fact, I especially loved how he pointed out the exaggerated privacy was part of the culture and not the religion, most people dont understand that it seemed to be a no sided vid which is nice to see just statements of facts, not media drama, miss information, or what people wana see or hear =)
So all Islamic countries have the same culture?! So it comes from Islam?! You kill people for leaving islam, is that having the right to choose?! Rise up like the suffragettes!!
That shows how the media like to distribute this crap news about Saudi Arabia, it's all biased and I am personally a Saudi guy, and I think westerners justify their perspective and apply it everywhere else in the world and they don't stop there but also relate these issues to core religions as well. an example that a female genital mutilation has been linked by deceptive journalists and unprofessional media personnel as an Islamic issue whereas it's A " cultural issue " and it's mainly in some of the African countries.
Such an interesting video. These women are beautiful and strong and WELL EDUCATED! Slightly intimidated by how gracious and put together they seem. Must read more about the Muslim culture (: Such an inspirational video for all women of color that do not get proper representation in mainstream media.
well educated n yet still its a man contry n they treat women like shit, those women r too good to be treated the way they r dwn there .....if i didnt knw better i wud say saudia arabia is HELL!!!!
Tuskanii Tendii Well the world we live in is patriarchal period. Granted others countries hell is more extreme then ours in America, but women nonetheless are always treated as less than with few exceptions. Women in general deserve too be treated way better then we have been. These women are inspirational and still hold on to thier cultural identities that all too often have to be sacrificed.
well thats tru they r pretty strong to keep up with that but even thou women need to be treated better in general the way they treat their women is beyond description,they way i see it if they had a way to stop girls from being born they would ....n dont u find it stupid for a man to hav as much as 6 wives?? but still if a woman moves on becuz she feels as if there is no love, she gets stoned to death STONED that pure evil if it was just to shoot her it wudnt hav been that bad cuz its just simple death but stoned to death and the stones have to be big enough to cause damage but small enough not to cause severe damage so they cud do it continuously to torture the person. they r evil down there
Tuskanii Tendii I do feel as if they are treated in humanely. It is a different culture,different values and customs. The whole deal with the polygamist of the culture is not for me to judge. I personally believe one can love more than one person consensually. They marry so many women as a sign of thier wealth, not really for love most of the time but for the "property".Some of the women benefit from such relationship structures and others don't. Stoning is evil I agree but who am I to judge.?
Tuskanii Tendii Do you believe everything on the news and the internet to be true? Ok then, I have some cheap land for sale in southern Florida. Are you interested?
@SouadSoso How do you know? Have you lived in Saudi Arabia you whole life and did you live in each of these woman's shoes? Stop being ignorant and a slave to the media and actually open your eyes. These are respectable woman who are not being forced to tell their story. Respect it
Please, be careful of where you get your information from. They aren't forced to stay in their homes like you say and yes, they are allowed to leave without male assistance it's just that most don't prefer too.
Why would they want to stay? Because Saudi is just like any other country. It has the good and the bad. I'm sorry to say but now you're just speaking out of ignorance. I know many Muslim woman including in my family that live there currently or would love to go like myself. Try looking at Saudi in a different perspective and maybe that will help you have correct awnsers.
Dethrone Idiocy LOL at your replies. I really can't believe people as racist as you still exist in this world. I'm Saudi and i've lived here all my life. Yes,we may have problems with women's rights but that doesn't mean everyone hates their lives. People are happy here and things are only getting better to be honest. As for your opinion which you seem to think are facts, they are complete bullshit. You are EXTREMELY racist and ignorant. You know nothing about Saudi to be honest and no one has the right to say anything about my country unless they've lived here. I'm extremely open minded , i'm 15 and fully saudi. I'm not religious at all, but just let the people here have faith in whatever they want to. Your stereotypes of saudis bother me to a ridiculous point cause your thoughts are dumb and worthless as FUCK.
i meet a girl in college who would not speak her mind with arab men around and cried one day cause she did not want to go back, because of the life styles, plus know enough men from there who endorse the idea that women do not need to think for them selves or even drive a car, yea a car, women protested in suadi almost a year ago wanting the right to drive themselves, each girl was arrested so yea think i got my facts, news and coverage right plus i have been over there
This guy said, "I'm sure there are a BUNCH Arab women who are not educated and they are out of work" so my questions is, Why didn't he interview at least one of them? I would like to know the opinion of at least 1 unprivileged Lady. I'm sure it will be VERY INTERESTING.
im a saudi arabian woman living in saudi arabia and this documentary unfortunately has only reviled 2% of what the culture is really about. saudi's are kind people and yes women receive education and a lot of them are happy because they sincerely belive that their way of life is the right way. but its not a matter of 'well if they want to cover they can who are we to criticize' its a matter of 'well what if they dont want to cover? can they?'
mizzdiva36 it is more comfort to them during the heat, to be honest that's what my wife told me, because she wearing abaya and niqab, the only she need is to find the right material for the abaya which is not giving hot insid and protecting them from the sunlight, more benefit also to them they dont need to buy sunblock lotion, if the sun is very bright they just put cover on the eyes with their black scarf and no need sun glass, this is how Islam protecting woman. the beauty is only for their husband.
withoutm3 this not me telling this, it is Quran telling like this, I'm also not allowed to show my beauty to other woman, both side has to lower their gaze,. I'm sorry what is your believe?
+withoutm3 in our religion the man has some part that mandatory to cover from the navel to the knees, and for the women full of her body need to cover except the hands and the face, but it is her choice if she want to cover their hands and their face as well, like the prophet wive.
why you are on planet earth?... plz think.! Use your mind.. To worship the creator.. do u believe all this beautifully well-created universe has no creator..? come on man! plzzz make use of ur life before it is too late.
,this is unique culture by itself i met many saudi women they are strong and well educated and happy with their lives,, i suggest you take a look at Japanese women walking seven steps behind the husband and are made to carry the grocery while husband walks like a Tarazan rooster in front leading the way, , i saw a japnese couple at the golf club the wife made to carry the heavy bag while he walked empty handed as friend i asked him can we help her he said no leave it do not spoil our culture,, this is Japan the very advanced country i respect their culture they are happy with it i should be too,
+MsColdCanada Quit talking out your ass. The vast majority of developed countries have low birth rates. As a matter of fact, Germany has lower birth rates than Japan! And it's one of the most developed/prominent countries in Europe.
bloodspilla55 Are Germans bothering to get married anymore? There are many documentaries about Japanese women choosing careers instead of marriage because of the restrictive traditional role of wife in their culture. In what way am I thence "talking out of my ass"?
the west does well preserving it's Christian heritage without making religion a law, i hope Saudi Arabia and the rest of the middle east will follow suit. religion shouldn't be a law in any nation. but at the same time i worry not, i know that even though currently Islam in in the rise, i bet the true zeitgeist that's ahead of it is atheist movements in the middle east. the more educated these women, as well as their men become the less religious they will be. that's just the way it works.
Apart from Iran and radical group controlled areas the rest of the Middle East is fine and doesn't have Sharia law. You'll be surprised how much most Arabic countries respect other people's beliefs, don't listen to what the western media says. If you ask most Muslims they'll tell you that they hate the Saudi royal family. Otherwise I fully agree with you. I have a saying. Religion and politics are like bleach and ammonia; they can both be used for good and they can both be misused for bad, but mixing them together is stupid and dangerous.
I'd agree with you but that's conformity right there. Simply because one things works for you doesn't mean it has to apply to all people, hence no point in diversity. Now where there is corruption and misuse, that's in the Christian heritage as well. No point in trying to claim to be better, when you still have problems on your own plate. Just food for thought. Though I do agree certain components of the Christian heritage got it right, but I'd argue it has more to do with the fact that people wanted freedom of speech, etc, not solely due to Christian heritage itself.
I hope you speak the truth religion is what holds humanity back because of Islamic law middle eastern nations are poor and horrible places to live. Hopefully they will go through an era of enlightenment like the west did and abandon religious laws becoming secular allowing people to progress from being uneducated and not questioning the clerical views
What is christian heritage? The west that has come to allow same sex marriages and will soon have most people born out of wedlock (aka in bastards in proper English language) and produces and has strip clubs and pornography among other things, and for the most part hates religion and the concept of God, are you saying that this west is protecting its christian heritage? Today the very concept of religion is considered vile in the west. People can do what they want in their personal lives and time and place but in any case, religion is hated! I am talking about the dominant way of thinking.
Cal Johnston People in the west need to comprehend the fact that the rest of the world is has not experienced what the west has. The catholic church and its opressive anti-enlightenment policies have not existed in the Muslim world. And the most imporant bit is that Islam has NO clergy! There is no class in society like the clergy in christondom. There has not been a war against science and free thinking. When Islam was at the height about 1000 years ago from now, that is when people were the most free thinking and produced intellectual giants. The concept that we have to abondon religion and become secular is what west learnt throught its own experience with the catholic church. Such an entity has never existed in the Muslim world and Islam is void of the concept of clergy and pope! Islam is basically a "burhan" and not terrorizing people to make it accepted. Yes I know there are people terrorizing now in the 20th century. However, in the history of Islam that spans about 1400 years and all three continents Asia, Europe and Africa, it has been propagated as "burhan". What is "burhan", it can be roughly translated to clear proof. If you read the Qur'an you will actually find the book is asking questions from the reader and make them ponder and think.
I'm friends with a young married couple from Saudi, she was so bold and confident! She spoke good things about Saudi, especially the progress when it comes to women's rights(she is learning to drive currently) she turned my views around as she told me women usually are treated like a princess as any good husband should treat their loved one, however there are those men out there that will control/abuse them and blame it on religion but it's like that anywhere in the world domestic violence is everywhere. Her husband was such a gentlemen! He even would watch out for me when I wasn't with my boyfriend, he is very protective kind friend. Meeting them really crushed a lot of the stereotypical things you hear about Saudi. Also she never wore a veil, hijab, burka nothing, so it isn't forced on you like the media says unless u have a strict family etc but nonetheless she is quite a free spirit! Changed my views for sure, don't take everything too literally
@@dsbmaximus406 I’ve never been to Saudi so I have been going off what this couple have taught me, perhaps the area or city they’re from makes a difference because they crushed all those stereotypical things for me, they were just so freaking cute and sweet and I just loved them haha I like to think that more people in Saudi are living life like they were
just want to say that the quran doesn't say ANYWHERE that women must wear hijabs or cover their faces or anything of that sort. people took it to that level. yes, there are women that choose to dress that way and that's their choice, but i'm sick of this being what makes you a "true" muslim and i'm sick of people telling me and other muslim women that we're going to hell for not wearing a black sheet over our heads. this is not a requirement in islam. you don't have to be walking around covered from head to toe to be modest, if that were the case, then men should be wearing the exact same because modesty is asked from men as well. last of all, stop claiming there is equality, it's not equality that i can't marry anyone who isn't muslim but a muslim man can marry a person of any religion, it's not equality that my husband has the right to marry 3 other women and i have to be with one man.
that thing about muslim women not being allowed to marry outside the religion, i would say that's less about equality than maintaining the dominance of islam. under the traditional expectation that the man is the head of the household, the children are expected to follow in his footsteps in regards to religion. so only a muslim man can marry outside his faith, since he can most likely decide his children's faith and thus expand islam. i wonder if the jewish matrilineal heritage has similar connotations, but i confess i'm less familiar with it.
renge9909 see that's the thing, why are men supposed to be the ones carrying the family name, the ones carrying the family religion, the ones having this and that? this is the root of problems in islamic societies. yeah.. that's another thing... why is there a clear male dominance in the religion? at least if we're going to let that be a thing, we should admit to equality not being in islam. it is completely hypocritical saying that islam is equal when men have at least 4 times the freedom and importance women do in many aspects. when studying the quran and learning islam, i was told that women and men are equal and that women must be valued and respected but in muslim societies.. i don't see that at all..i mean in bibles it literally says women are lesser than men, but does it say that in the quran? if it doesn't, then how come women are treated like less in islamic societies, but in christian ones women are close to being seen as equal?
konaramen women not being forced to work isn't a kingdom. women are still forced to marry men they don't want, men literally buy their marriage, they're forced to marry young, they're forced to have sex with them and it wouldn't count as rape even if it really is rape, he has the right to abuse her in most countries, he has the right to make her cover up, he has the right to keep her from working, she is literally his slave. you're telling me to look at both sides when you're the one acting like these two sides are equal. sure, maybe some are lucky with a hard working kind husband who leaves her to do the housework (which many people say is far harder and far less rewarding seeing as they end up raising children and taking care of the house and everyone in it) but that's nowhere close to as bad and men are in no way forced to do those things. the things i mention are things that are constantly shown and reinforced in our societies. and i'm not saying this as a european or american who is just judging based on what i read, i'm saying this based on what i hear and see and fear for myself. and last of all you said "too many muslims" are acting this way towards their wives, i don't know where you live but i've seen too many cases of women whose faces have been melted off by acid for saying no to their husband or saying no to a man who wanted to marry them and most of what i've seen are men overriding their authority and abusing their wives in these societies in one way or another so you're definitely over exaggerating. you're acting like a woman almost being the mans slave is as bad as a man willingly working to provide for himself and his wife due to social expectations is on the same level and it really is not. oh and if you haven't noticed, i'm arab, i'm muslim, and i live in the middle-east, so this is not just things i "hear" of, these are things i know are real.
konaramen i would say that out of the three main religions (christianity, judaism, and islam) i have surprisingly found the least evidence of sexism in islam. regardless, muslim societies are the ones that have most sexism today. the sexism in christianity and judaism is almost sickening, honestly, i was so shocked honestly because you'd never expect that from them seeing as their societies don't reflect such things. but i suppose its mostly because islamic societies are very anti-reformation and progression, unlike christian and jewish societies.
konaramen sorry, the first was meant for ***** ( i dont know why it tagged you) an the second is towards you because you mentioned sexism in religions. no need to get so angry over it though lol.
Islamophobia is hatred not opinion, not reaction and it's certainly not normal. Clearly you know nothing about the religion other than what white liberal media has taught you.
Whether you like our culture or not you have to agree that my country is interestingly mysterious place for outsiders. You can talk about human rights, Gender inequality or freedom of speech but the fact remains that Saudi Arabia is in fact a must see destination. That's if we allow it :>) God protect My King and Kingdom. Great Upload Much Appreciation.
TMSH90 Jealous enough :)? We got Tons of places to see and visit and in this age of internet, u can search what places we have :). "Skyscrapers" are old news man now we are turning deserts to green and habitable places, Thanks to . Yes we are blessed with oil and Islam and this is the first time to see someone blames us for being filthy rich :). Funny thing u said about slaves? LOL ? What Slaves ? damn it, stop believing Disney Channel :) Envious bastard :)
Funny when you are bragging about democracy while your welfare country is begging other nations for money. It is either DEMOCRACY is a FAILURE or YOU ARE SO CORRUPT AS A NATION. Really, i couldn't care less :) enjoy your democracy :) BTW, U must be really desperate if you think i'm gonna read all the BS u wrote. LOL
This is an extremely thorough attempt at obscuring and obfuscating the reality and truth of what the culture, people, and lifestyle are truly like in Saudi Arabia. Just as an example, of which there are infinite, an Australian woman who had moved to Saudi Arabia and was working in an expensive resort style hotel was raped by six six of her male co workers. When she tried to go to the police to report this heinous crime she was imprisoned because in Saudi Arabia the law is that unless there are seven (I believe it was even may have been more) witnesses to a rape then the guilty party(s) will not be prosecuted and in a completely ass backwards way of addressing the crime the victim ie the woman is imprisoned for acting in a way that tempted the men to rape her. So this poor woman spent 2 years in a Saudi prison for being gang raped by six sick pieces of trash that don't deserve to be called men, until Australia was able to have her entitled back to her birth place. This is a recent example, which took place two years ago if my memory serves me correctly. Point is this is not some progressive country, but rather a place run by archaic ideologies that are forced on the citizens whether or not they choose to follow or believe in the national religion.
Aneta Cetnarska by stronger i mean that the freedom which they have and the confidence in them. All the world think that Saudi Husbands pressurise their wives but it's the other way around (Mostly).
+Ha Kou Yale is the an Ivy League college and is ranked in the US as the 3rd best college in the entire country. Basically it's hard as fuck to get in and once you're there you have to put in a lot of work.
+Ha Kou actually our government pay us to go to college and give us scholarship easily to the best colleges in the world. So I don't blame you if you are mad about it because our country see that we are the once who's going to take care of our land and make it better. Thanks
When I read all those hateful comments here, I really wonder where the people who wrote them get their opinion from. All religions have good and bad aspects and most of what I read here seems to come from people who are misinformed or uneducated on this topic. I bet 90% who posted something here have not read the Quran, 80% have not yet visited a muslim country and 70% have not yet had contact with a muslim person. Also, people should think twice about where terrorism has its roots. I think its origins are hatred, fear and lust for power - not religions. We should try to judge people by what they do, not by what they believe in.
Actually :D 90% of the people who commented are ex-muslims, or muslims or from those muslim countries ===> dude youuuu have noooo idea what you talking about. STFU.
lawanid Now what´s the matter with you? Why do you feel the need to tell people to shut up and why do you assume I have no knowledge on this subject? Actually I am an ex-muslim with an entire muslim family from a muslim country. My point was simply that we shouldn´t judge people by their beliefs, but by their deeds and that many people have misconceptions about religion, especially Islam. And btw, did you count and analyze all the comments to make an evaluation for your 90%? Let me know if you did, it would be interesting to know how you questioned every youtuber who commented this video about their beliefs and experiences with Islam.
Ryan mailman Wow, don´t be surprised if you offend someone by saying "fuck the Quran". To some people religion means freedom and happiness. It´s just one of many ways how to live life and enjoy it. It´s a philosophy, a lifestyle - and deserves the same respect as any other opinion.
I just hate when people say "Muslims are terrorists!" Have you ever met Muslim? Have you ever learned the religion? If you don't like Islam then don't blame all Muslims blame the specific groups that are cruel like "ISIS"
Saudi Arabian girl here.. One thing that strikes me about westerners is that they speak of cultural change in a culture not their own as if it is something that should be incumbent upon the indigenous culture. just because their 'enlightenment era' theories about objective truth and reason inspire them to think outside of cultural exclusivity, they lack respect for other cultures without realizing it, somehow implying that an unwillingness to change is a sign of backwardness, stupidity, anti-truth, anti-reason, etc. What really enrages me is when you oppose the intrusive, invasive nature of the westerner in relation to your own culture and they get offended as if YOU, the defender of your own culture, is insulting THEM, the invader and inquisitor of ways and people that have NOTHING to do with their own origin.
American Women were once in the same boat as Saudi Women. 13 Things that women could not do in America in 1967 (America was still an Ultra-Conservative Society). 1. Serve On A Jury 2. Get A Credit Card 3. Easily Accessible Birth Control 4. Run The Boston Marathon 5. Buy Women's Athletic Shoes 6. Have The Option Of Attending Co-Ed Ivy League School 7. Keep Their Job If They Became Pregnant 8. Attend A Military Academy Or Fight In Combat 9. Practice Law 10. Refuse Sex With Their Husbands 11. Legally Obtain An Abortion 12. Take A Stand Against Sexual Harassment 13. Take Legally-Mandated Maternity Leave
Sarah B you know wtf i ment by they. The documentary is only about them so im just in using that as a description . Also from your narrow minded perspective seems.like you think you are better than the rest of the women in the world. Ok your mother works but.i want to know about the majority or the less fortunate. Good day 🎩
+Sarah B "We're all children of the earth, no matter where we come from!" - yeah, the only difference is we do not subjugate the other gender based on fairytales.
Sarah B Tell me a good reason why someone should subjugate another person then, demonstrate that my point of view is wrong. Tell me why should I consider someone inferior from a human perspective. And I do not generalize, it's reality, what planet are you living on? Why should I tell someone how to dress, act, or talk? How am I in a superiority position to dictate what another human should do?
Sarah B "Saudi Arabia is one of the only Muslim-majority countries that legally imposes a dress code (Iran is another). Women, foreign and local, must wear an abaya (a few get away with long coats) in public places." - care to explain your benevolence involvment in wearing your abaya when it is imposed by law? Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country in which Islamic law is strictly enforced.
This video showed women in Saudi Arabia are beautiful, well educated and hardworking. I do not see why people from other country are making fuss about their cultural clothes. I believe a woman with a very good heart makes her more beautiful and special. Saudi Arabian women are beautiful is just that they have to cover up themselves for a reason. God bless.
They are forced to cover up in Saudi Arabia. They are not allowed to leave the house without a male companion even if it is a 10 year old cousin. They are treated as second class citizens. They cant work They cant drive
I think Saudi Women are beautiful and interesting. They always seem to have a lot of character and strength within their choices and personality. It's a shame they have been convinced they would be damned for having a relationship with me.
+Charles Curt Here we go again, another American lumping all 'Muslim' women together and acting as if they're one entity with one culture and of course he knows-it-all, expose the truth, and ofc dismiss whatever is said by someone else. He was talking about SAUDI WOMEN. specifically why do you have the need to bring all other nationalities of women into this just because they're suppose to share the same religion? Last time I checked, many Russian, Filipino, Korean, Australian, Serbian, Spanish, Dominican, Brazilian, Kenyan girls are Christians too like many American girls yet their own culture plays a big role in their overall attitude, values, needs, outlook..etc. and influence their reactions to everything and anything in life itself, I'm not implying anything negative against any nationality of women, I respect all women including American women whom you're trying to hate on here, I'm just telling it as it is being a Saudi girl myself: sharing religion isn't everything, culture matters more. Have you ever 'dated' Saudi women yourself? until then, no need to speak like an expert
***** You're referring to basic evolution theory. That women will be far more selective than men about their sexual partners, and will tend to seek those with the most resources to invest in their children. The reason why we're more 'carefully selecting men' than say, women from more equal countries is because we're judged harshly and overall more traditional. I would NEVER sleep with a man without him being serious if he is western and if Arab, even if he has all the qualities I like in a mate and I'm in luv head over heels, sleeping before marriage \ commitment is out of the question and guess what, I'm not even religious. But what I don't understand is, why do you consider causal sex bad? I'm not gonna judge here, just curious to know why.
***** Another American guy told me before similar thing, that women get hurt from promiscuous lifestyle far more than men. Since women feel attached more or develop feelings for the other sexual partner easier than men and after a certain age, the emotional baggage is going to be too much to handle and might affect her in a negative way, emotionally, physically, mentally..etc. If you feel so, that's noble of you as it is about women's well-being not blatant hatred against female species lol or their freedom to choose.
In Saudi Arabia there is absolutely no prohibition of marital rape because the very concept does not exist in Saudi Arabia. Hell, rape isn't even specifically codified in law as illegal and prescribed punishments for it do not exist. Women who are alone with a man in violation of purdah are actually punished if they are subsequently raped. I think it's important to note these facts for context. It's laughable to me when people say this dress is for the safety of women, which doesn't seem like a priority in the slightest.
For those who are going to and have already commented saying "Islam oppresses women, etc." You should know the difference between "culture" and "religion" Islam actually treats women like goddesses, we're put on golden thrones compared to men. (no offence to you men :P ) What Saudi Arabia does is, they mix culture and religion so much that outsiders misunderstand what Islam is really about. And if you really watched this video to understand and not critic then you would've noticed how all the women in these videos are highly educated. So no, they are not oppressed. And to be frank, ALL Middle Eastern countries have working women, women who drive and frankly everything! (with a few exceptions due to a woman's physique eg: construction or being a bus driver) I lived in The United Arab Emirates (the country with Dubai in it) and I loved it so much. Now that I'm back in America, I actually miss it there because I felt more secure. (but that's just me) And for those who have Islamaphobia, you're basically hating a religion because of what the media portrays. I'm not going to tell you to do your research because let's be honest you won't. But if most people are ready to learn or stand up for homosexuals. Then why not try to do the same for all Muslims. We're all human. Basically what I'm saying is, if something is foreign to you. Don't be so quick to judge. Be open minded.
Wait did you just say that women don't have the necessary physique to drive buses? In my town here in Vancouver BC (Canada) there's this woman bus driver that I see from time to time. Trust me, out of all the bus drivers that I've had taking me to different destinations she's easily in my top 5 best drivers. Maybe you should consider the fact that you're still slightly brain washed by those who oppress women and try to justify it.
What I said had nothing to do with a fact that women can't drive buses! There are other factors as in problems that occur in buses like people fighting in buses, all sorts of things that could be harder for a woman (I never said women cannot do it). Especially if it's two males fighting. And if woman are treated like queens, they don't have to drive buses. That's the whole point of being superior. You my friend clearly don't practice the religion and don't know anything about cultures that follow Islam, so don't talk for them! With all the technology and advancements out there, women who are being oppressed speak up. You don't see any Muslim woman complaining about being treated like a dog. Besides I represent a normal Muslim girl and I'm super happy with my life. I don't need outsiders telling me or any other person what muslim women go through -_- You don't live with one. You don't live like one. You don't bother getting to know one and asking them questions. But instead go on the internet, go on the most unreliable websites to research about Islam and women's rights. If you really thought muslim women were being oppressed, why don't you befriend one and get to know them in and out and while you're at it learn about Islam from them (NOT THE INTERNET) get to know her family and community and we'll see who's wrong. Besides I don;t have time to argue with people who clearly don't know true facts about a religion they clearly despise. It's like trying to make the sun rise from the west instead of the east (IMPOSSIBLE) You say that I'm brainwashed. Well my friend, you are talking about yourself because brainwashed people hate and argue about topics where they can't back their shit up (excuse my french) As I said, it's impossible to try and convince people like you. No matter what a MUSLIM girl or any muslim as a matter of fact says. You're one of those who believe the "media" The so beloved "media" that bashes anything good because war, sex, poverty, propaganda's, etc sell. Good bye my friend. I don't have anything else to say. I just hope that you would find it in your heart that not everything in the media or wherever you get your information is in black and white. And also there are two sides to a stroy. All you've been doing is listening to one side. Peace.
***** You seem smart and maybe your source of information has facts but it could also have tons of faults in it too. All I'll say is this. Women in Islam are never treated as 2nd class. In Islam this is what Allah (SWT) a.k.a God says about them: First is your mother then your mother then your mother then comes your father. A woman just came three times before a man! What other religion says that? He also says Heaven lies under the feet of your mother. He also says when a girl is born into a family, their blessings double. Now how does that sound 2nd class to you? If you still think so, why not look up Queen Rania of Jordan and look at the things she does and yes! She is MUSLIM WOMAN. Can you still call that 2nd class? MAYBE what you're reading has something to do with a culture. Because nobody can practice a religion perfectly. So don't mix the two up. People often mistaken the two. And maybe those women don't want to do anything superior with their lives. Maybe they like living under the radar.
American chiming in. Nothing wrong with other cultures but what is wrong is when women do not have equal rights as men, if you want to wear a burka then no problem, but if you HAVE to wear one because men make you then that's not fine. Any culture that gives equal rights to women is a better culture than ones that do not, it's just the truth. Unfortunately these unjust laws have their basis in the Quran so it's unlikely to change unless they have reformation like Christians did a few hundred years ago.
I have a lot of respect for muslim women. It's good that they wear what they wear. They're not worried about wear fucking designer shit buying worthless purses for like 500 dollars. They're not attached to material things like girls here in America worrying about impressing a guy they've never met . wearing skimpy shit and Spending hours getting ready to impress someone they don't even know yet.
It's sad, some of these women are absolutely gorgeous and as smart as any other women in any other country. I definitely appreciate what he's trying to do.
@@supmaidoods8753 no body part is immodest lol, its how you choose to act in public (which includes how you appear) and sometimes in private as well that defines modesty or immodesty. There are also different levels, for example in islam women have physical modesty to observe in all women gatherings as well, and its more than the modesty required of men around other men.
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"The veils that we wear do not cover or obscure our mind..." Wow. That has to be the most powerful statement from this whole documentary. One that sums it up Perfectly.
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At the beginning of the video I was like "Is this a biography of you or a video about Saudi Arabian women?"
Gia~ well, to know the art, you must first know the artist.
Sbastian Brilyanto photographer's profile for about 7 minutes is kind of too much, that's almost half of the content
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@@Lut28 actually found the profile much more intriguing than the rest of the video
I couldn’t even watch this because I’m interested in learning more about Arabian Women, not this dude.
Only 18% of Saudi women are employed outside the home, so this is not a realistic picture of the average Saudi woman, as he only interviewed those women who live in a more progressive, modern environment and are married to husbands who are probably more modern-thinking. Therefore, I don't think this is a realistic portrait of the "average" Saudi woman's life.
I definitely agree that he did only interview working women, but it really does show a glimpse into the Saudi lifestyle. A lot of people think that Saudi Arabia is just a big desert, but it is so much more than that. This was a glimpse of the middle-class of Saudi. They have beautiful homes, buildings, malls and hotels. In some ways they are even more advanced than us here in The States! I do agree that the so called "sharia law" they have in place is completely flawed. It seems like though muslim countries are expanding technologically and all that they are forgetting their true origins and beliefs. Women at the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) were treated like queens and princesses.
Silly woman, didn't you hear what he said at the end? He said that he might not have the real picture of women in Saudi Arabia, he said may be all women don't have education and may not be working. But he said that he met women who were working and have good degrees.
Yup...sure... ..
bcoz they are rich enough and enjoy shopping.
i'm a Saudi woman and i can assure you that that study is wrong because it's happening around me and most of the girls i know and see they all work and some have their own business. im not a rich girl, my parents are old school yet they want me to get a college degree and work so i can grow up independently.
you got your statistics from 1980, or maybe from a wrong website.
" Saudi Women are more educated than Saudi Men" ....um..yeah but they can't do anything with that degree so who cares?
+iDalisMediaTV That's so far from the truth, the women can only be treated by female doctors, they can only be taught by female teachers, there are all female malls so obviously the women use their education.
+Aishya476 and the women that are doctors will get paid much less, treated like second class citizens, and given no real freedom.
Are u kidding ?? 😂😂😂 we make in one month like what u make in one year 😂😂 we can be doctors, teachers and more than what are u think , I don't know from where did u take this f**** idea .. WE LOVE TO LIVE IN SAUDI ARABIA , WE LOVE OUR KINGS AND THE ROYAL FAMILY ❤️❤️🇸🇦❤️🇸🇦🇸🇦❤️🇸🇦❤️🇸🇦🇸🇦❤️🇸🇦 last thing we don't have taxes , the education and health treatment are FREE , last thing the oil cheeper than water.
I can work just for fun but when im bored i simply quit . Why should i do something about it . I dont work for money by the way if thats what u mean. My family provides for me till the day i die. Not until i become 18. How sad:(
+00 00 fuck the royal family they behead atheists and gays!
I am an American male who taught English in Riyadh for three years. I am conflicted with this documentary as I feel it contains certain truths but also many misrepresentations. Women are highly regarded in Saudi Arabia but more in the sense that they are pampered, not as individuals capable of contributing to society. Women are not beaten down in the streets for showing too much skin, victims of rape are not punished, and the nation does not stone its citizens. These and other fabrications about Saudi Arabia that infuriate me. When all is said and done, however, there is still an enormous fight ahead for the women of this country. I try to be sensitive to Saudi Arabia's adherence to Sharia Law but ultimately do find it to be quite archaic and difficult to defend. I do recognize that I view Sharia through the lens of a Westerner. Yes, the nation enjoys all of the luxuries accessible in the Western world but their mentality is one that can truly only work with in the borders of Saudi Arabia. I have also spent time in Iraq, Jordan, and Egypt. Most Westerners wouldn't know this, but most of the Arab world feels the same way about SA as much of the West does: it's simply too radical. I also had trouble accepting the extreme hypocrisy the men display in Saudi Arabia. On one end, they so adamantly promote Sharia but the vast majority make horrendous breaches of this commitment behind closed doors. People were kind to me during my time there and part of me feels guilty for speaking badly about the country as a whole. The other part of me feels that documentaries like this probably shine too positive of a light on SA; the reality is much more harsh than these accounts would indicate.
Thank you for sharing this jay
That kinda sums it up. People who haven't been there keep talking about it like it's North Korea or something. It is a conservative and fairly civilised place. They do have social issues but it's still nowhere as extreme as the places formerly rulled by IS. Nowadays even the moral police have been disbanded. Women there do have privileges even though they don't have the same rights as men. I think a more serious issue in Saudi Arabia would be modern slavery.
Wait.. a youtube comment on a religious topic that sounds .. really measured & based on actual experience... and only 92 upvotes? C'mon people! (Also I have a relative who is a nurse & who worked for several years in Dubai as the 'head nurse/nursing director' in a hospital because she's good & also because I think women in that role are in short supply there (although I think that's true in every country, but particularly so there.
She talked about how it's very different living in Dubai vs visiting it, and I think that difference left a greater impression on her than the difference of being a man or a woman there.
(I'm aware that Dubai is likely really NOT a good litmus test for the whole Muslim world, but +Jay Petrova's comment reminded me of her descriptions, not negative, just observational)
@@Ye4rZero Strange enough, the nurses in every hospital I've visited in Saudi Arabia were females. Most of them were from the Philippines. And this was like 8 years ago when I still lived there. There were also several female doctors. The only other common occupation for women is teaching. So they weren't allowed to work as shop clerks/assistants, waitresses and so on.
some of wht u said r true but still 3 years and just teaching does not make u an expert
"the veils that we wear do not cover or obscure our mind", that's actually a really beautiful phrase.
It kinda bugs me how many people are complaining about them covering their bodies and faces saying it's a waste of beauty! Perhaps they want to cover themselves so they're seen for there mind and not objectified and looked at as something sexual by random men!
Why would it matter if a woman is sexualized by random men? If she wants to wear a skirt or t-shirt that is her choice.
Augustus R She saves her beauty for her man. Not wear shorts that you might as well be naked. Which are spotted almost every where in western culture. That shit should be banned. But then again, any one have a choice. And so does a women wearing a Hijab.
Wahab .Goldsmith Wearing shorts is not being naked. Why is it okay for a man to wear shorts but not a woman? Why should only a WOMAN have to wear a burka but not a man? You say you value your women so much and that's why you cover them; do you not value your men? If you did, you would hold them to the same standards and save their looks to be only gazed on by their wives.
Your culture is sexist and backwards. A man looking a woman's legs or arms at the beach does nothing. He's not having sexual relations with her and all he's doing is looking. If the men of your country really need a burka so they don't rape every beautiful woman they see, that's fucked up.
Augustus R this is wrong ! men shouldnt wear shorts above thier knees or under thier stomach !
Augustus R You know what I'm talking about. Shorts that are basically covering nothing. Don't go sexist on me.
I used to hear a lot of negative stuff about Saudi Arabia in the news, but when I went to Saudi Arabia, it was the complete opposite! The people are kind and welcoming and I met a Saudi family who were generous enough to invite me into their home and I got to know their culture and lifestyle.
MrNaf thanck so much im from there
indexandthumb How do you know they are joking.
As an Indian I guarantee than the media thoughout the world is fucked up. especially the West. They see the whole world according to their own perspective. They cannot understand the cultural nuances. The west wants entire world to be like them and that's what kills the fun of life.
@@rohitk9221 the west fund billions to try shove their culture to eastern countries.
Yeah, because you're a man. If you were a girl, however...
I am happy that they find peace in their faith and clothing... but their attempts to be 'modest' and reduce sexual curiosity by covering themselves so thoroughly actually has the wrong effect. Men become even more obsessed with what's underneath the black, they get excited just by a bare arm or a bare knee, and even us westerners who see uncovered women all the time... are obsessed with seeing what a Saudi woman looks like. How does she dress? What's her face like?
I just have one word to describe your statement "pervert". I have seen some orthodox christian women in Spain wearing all black, I could not even see their eyes. I also saw Jewish women wearing modest clothes and covering their hair in public.
+Adindastrawberry
Then they're oppressed too
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Why didn't you meet her parents and marry her? Maybe that was a smart thing to do. Just think... Her body could've been really hairy and smelly once revealed
+INTJ-Skorpyo7 Surely you knew that she wouldn't have sex before marriage if she was dressed like that? Could have saved yourself 3 months!
+INTJ-Skorpyo7 How do you know she wasn't banging her postman all that time? You're very trusting. That's why I don't go in for long distance, not even outside my own city.
If a veil really makes them feel strong, let them wear it. Only, then why have laws and regulations requiring it for all?
Abolish these laws, and let's see how many will continue to wear them. Then at least we'll believe its a free choice. (as long as husbands and brothers also don't force them to wear it)
they are not really waiting for you to believe them. just stop poking your nose everywhere and theyll be just fine
+MOm4r I have no problem with anyone wearing them, really, my Christian grandma often wore one (not uncommon in the past). But as I said, if they ALL want to, why do you need laws for clothing requirements? If it is their own choice, you don't need such a law. That's not a free choice.
+Alexandra Geirsdóttir Interesting information :) All equally sad though.
Ever heard of "the caged bird will learn to love its cage"? People who fled from Iran spit on this behaviour, that filth which enforces the wearing of a hijab or worse - thanks.
willzyx what a lovely opinion! you know here in Malaysia (we're an Islamic country), the veil is optional and still people wear them and many don't. And the government doesn't approve nor deny their right to wear it. my sister even want to wear it because she's uncomfortable with men looking at her. It's a choice, not a compulsory.
When there are more comments about Americans making ignorant comments than actual Americans making ignorant comments.
"THE SHALLOW YOUTH"
Actually it makes no sense in response to my comment but okay
The Shallow Youth read your comment again, genius.
Aleida Aguilar what does her name have to any thing to do with her comment? ?
Sydney Forrest They couldn't respond because they didn't have a comeback approaching anything near good.
I'm confused. The misleading "Come Click Me" title suggests a video about Saudi women. But in 16 minutes of roll-time, we get 10 minutes of the photographer chatting himself up, and then...what? Two or three profiles are shown.
Stupid. There's nothing wrong with a couple of minutes of intro with him, but can we get to the subject matter, please? While we're young? If we must listen to him for 10 minutes, can we then at least have a 30 minute segment of the subject matter?
I trust that the subject matter is far more interesting, in front of the lens, than the man behind the lens...Vice, are you loosing your edge?
Yeah he's so self absorbed. And he just glosses over this whole issue by looking at a fraction of well to do women
Im glad I read this comment 40 seconds in so I didnt waste my time
This guys reminds me of my days back at college, this is humanities in a nutshell. A boring circle jerk
I'm Saudi, an Arabic woman. And I'm here to tell you that everything you hear about the Arabic societies is right. The other women who deny it are brainwashed and think that the least bit of freedom well cost them Allah approval to enter heaven.
the rest of the woman who're not brainwashed are forced to do a lot of things by their family or the the Saudi low.
The life here is absolutely unbearable, I'm in constant fight for my simple rights and the opinion of society is more worthy then mine, my life have to be in the frame of cretin prison or else I will suffer the consequence while being accused of unbecoming nonsense.
the country is in a constant hardship with women.. no human rights.
Sorry to hear that, so are women not allowed to get an education and work in Saudi Arabia? I asked because some of the rules are just a bit too extreme, I am a muslim but I still don't understand why they don't give women the right to drive.
+Noble Intellect i hate to say this but you are right wahabism is killing us thats why king abdullah may his soul rest in heaven fought them by introducing scholarship program to open our minds a little bit and balance the extreme of wahabism to become a good muslim.
+Noble Intellect the royal family supporting the dominant party in saudi arabia its like we have whhabi and liberal one so they are smart enough to not to go against them coz the will destabilise the whole country since they are the dominant one but am ok with the royal family just am not ok with giving them a lot of power but they are loosing there support and power with time.
فهد العنزي ***** the majority of Saudi Arabia are Wahabis .. so basically Saudis ruined Saudia Arabia ?
This is the first time I see a non Arab talking about the theory of Judaism conspiracy. Don't believe it sir this is just a method for my fellows Arabs to use another religion as hanger for all the bad things that Arab do. Al Whabia Salfia is spouse to be based on the four school of Islam but actually it's a mixture of the uptight al-shafi school and old Arabic traditions which is based on sexism and ignorance. It was brought up by a Muslim Arabic Najidi man called Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab who was one of founders and the supporters of the becoming of Saudi Arabia . there's no Jews in it just Arabs.. Muslim Saudi Arabs.
and sorry to disappoint you but the problem is from the country it self and no sect to blame,
the problem is in the traditions and gender agenda. the given roles and what expect from each gender.
You probably love Saudi Arabia because this society was trying to look like it finest to outsiders, and not to mention you're a male and my society worship your gender. Men to men society is less far hideous, you saw the shiny side of my country. The small angle of men Utopia.
The females side is not even the closest to tolerable and the sun rarely shines there.
I tried for many years to see the good in my country but I failed, yes the government is good but then what ?
Health and education in return for my freedom ?
even the education part is based on the male guardian consent.. my life is entirely in another being hand, there's almost no Muslims in the nation of Islam.
I tried my best to live the life of the brainwashed women. it way easier to close my eyes than to see but I couldn't.
I even tried to defend this country with it ill mannered society to convince my self through this defending that I'm living the life of a human who have the rights of freedom and choices but I can't anymore.
Saudi Arabia is not a place for a woman to live in. That the plain and the ugly truth.
Vex Tally there's some rules about this issue, parents are forced to educate their child to a certain age or level if not the parents or the child guardian will be treated as felons in the court of law. the concept is good but the foundation of this concept is poor. the guardians are required to educate their child just till elementary (so basically all what's required is reading and writing and simple math). and then it will be entirely based on the male guardian consent for this child education. the female parent does not have any say in it and either the child.
for women the male consent is always required even in PHD. but for men it stops after high school.
so yes there is a lot of cases where women were forced to stop educating because of a husband or a father or a brother ..ect (male guarding) disapproval but thank god it's rarely before high school. it usually happens with the higher academic degrees. Sadly women life over here are based completely on the approval of a man.
Its ironic no one of these women were able to take photos outdoor
@@aisha2744 excellent sister. Greatness and dignity lies in modesty. Whens modesty is gone a woman is like plastic flower without fragrance. Woman is awra and awra should be concealed not shown
@@drmsb2136 how can that be happy for a woman to be invisible because of her beliefs? Guess happiness doesn't matter to women
@@booperfect8894 How can a woman not be happy when she has a belief.
@@h..s6972 A belief that's false and misleading or incorrect. How do you react to life with blind Faith ? Out of fear
@@booperfect8894 How can u just assume that it's blind faith. There is always a level of understanding before performing religious duties and u saying that it is misleading says all about ur understanding on religion.
I can't help myself but comment that woman at 12:20.
The way she talks about her work, so serious and businesslike, but in the same time keeping her feminine side in place was amazing to me.
Her gracefull gestures, I must admit, distracted me from what she was saying, but it doesn't really matter.
For her face says it all. In the same moment so confident, but also so mysterious and gentle like beautiful swan that's been hiding behind it's wings. It's like she is preparing to spread her wings and fly but she is being hesitant at the very last moment... ahhh
And I must say I am trying really hard not to be too melodramatic here.
qwertzuiop 1 I think you are in trouble...you are in love! Seriously, my son said the same, that they had something so unique and they were all amazingly beautiful and intelligent.
yayo2121 My friend, no man can stay immune to that kind of charm
Tell it to my son, he was so fascinated that he did everything he could to marry one. He is the happiest guy now, she has a PhD, 5 languages and so feminine.
qwertzuiop 1 she is also very beautiful !
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This is just showing some wealthy familys, of course everything is better for those who have money!! But these women are a minority, the majority is still getting killed and raped. And it's dumb to pretend everything is allright. It's about misliding international information, it's about women that survived living there that are asking for help, that are sold at a young age to marry a man they never met before... Reality is cruel, I know everyone would rather believe everything is fine...
KaleidoscopeEffectKilled and raped? Women in USA are killed and raped WAY more than women in Saudi Arabia. In fact, Saudi Arabia overall is SAFE country with lower crime rates especially when compared to countries like U.S and U.K. How about reading a book or two? not a bad idea y'know
Stop spreading pure bs you idiot.
Intergalactic Nomad that's because rapes are not reported in Muslim countries. so they don't make the list. but if we decided to count child marriages and pedophilia as rape, middle eastern countries would top the list.
latzobear Don't lump all Islamic and middle eastern countries together and stick to my country only. I'm not here to deal with your anti-Islam bs nor tolerating your stupidity when you act like a keyboard warrior parroting same usual bs without any actual knowledge. I can't emphasis on how retarded is it to lump all countries together just because they share a religion or geographical location. Exactly how are Somalia is similar to Malaysia? how is Iraq similar to Indonesia? Even UAE and Kuwait which shares border with Saudi Arabia and are all Arabic countries they have different laws regarding women. Child marriage in Saudi Arabia is rare. Average age of marriage is 22-25. If you can't back up you your claims with evidence and stats about the astronomical cases of rape against women here or child marriage then stfu & don't act like an expert on the subject.
Now go and google news and articles to reply back and keep lumping all the 'Islamic countries' together, that's what you're good at..
Intergalactic Nomad
I'm not talking bs, I'm not misinformed either. I read stories told by muslim woman that decided to abandon islam. All of them were rejected by their families and friends and knew no one to trust between the group they thought would protect them. Some decided to tell their husbands and were stoned to death by their own families. How free and 'respected' can you be if you have a police force to look and follow you around in the streets to tell you if you are doing something wrong, like having your nails painted in a revealing colour? And Stressed Taklehangs it is human nature to be attracted by opposite sex but not to act on it without regarding the other person as a human being. Don't women find men attractive as well? Why not covering them up? In my country I can dress as I like, I can use tons of colours and fabrics walk around wherever I like, whenever I like and no one has the right to do anything to me, no one even tried. Instead of telling women how to dress, when and where to walk, why don't you try telling men to respect women and their bodys?
latzobear so how can you base you claims if there no stats?
child marriages are illegal in all middle east countries except KSA and Yemen.
India has over 50% of all child marriages in the world.
I've been watching Vice for four hours now.
is that the symbol for atheism or anarchy ? keep forgeting
It's an atheist symbol
A fellow atheist, hi friend 😁
I have noticed is that Islam has very important teaching. Christianity does not bring people to together, but Islam does. It teaches that EVERYONE IS SLAVES TO ONE GOD. Many people come to together and pray in mecca. Allah (God) created everyone. Why IS that Islam brings people together, and christianity doesn't?
bullshit..islam is not any better then Christianity..muslim killing other muslim is the levant..and know you want to promot islam as the reason for unity...yikes..saudi can't even help palestine..but in the mosque they spit anti jews sentiment..but the saudi army made apack with mossad against the IS group..i say in islam there is a lot of hypocrisy.
Nukui Hanza go fuck your self
Well, you have Christians all over the world. If you're just looking at Christians in America, that would be the main problem. America is regulating and breaking up families for another agenda that has nothing to do with religion.
Nick Lenfent excatly, christians in america are just...
NinjasInPyjamas when you want to kill me in the name of allah?
14:48 "Saudi women are like other women in the world and maybe stronger?" Really? That's funny because in most other places in the world women can drive cars, wear what they want, go where they want and don't have to be accompanied by a male relative everywhere they go if they are alone. It has nothing to do with the veil itself.
@@User-ws3jl but nobody is forced to become a nun..its your own choice
@@User-ws3jl It's their CHOICE.
@@ewan80 if they don't like it they can leave their wealth and leave the country.
Marry a Saudi woman and you will realise how strong they are...
@@dmrscrystal8218 your not wrong 😂
"Saudi women have struggled to reach their current status" What?
+2Truth2you I wonder what was life for them before.
I know, but it is not impressive, women can vote everywhere
+Ayesha Bujasaim
I believe you. Have you ever been for a walk on your own?
okay man ts impressive that women can vote, for Saudi Arabia.
+2Truth2you www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/02/saudi-arabian-divorced-women-and-widows-to-get-greater-legal-powers
Are you being oppressed? I-I need to ask my husband...
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@apoorv lawande they invented algebra
@@ariserx4908 No one cares. We live here and now. Especially when any sense of progress has been lost for centuries. Also, they didn't. Babylonians and Central Asians aren't Arabs, and it's all based on Greek and Indian work.
@@willzyxOfficial false, you and the lot of the westerns including so many Indians too love to take credit for Arabic texts and achievements. Ffs so many words in English are of Arabic origin do you every wonder why? Also Phoenicians, canaanites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Akkadians, majority of ancient Egypt (u can look at the demotic script yourself) are of ancient Arab origin, although not labeled as such because lost of people like to discredit Arabs, and try to paint the picture that they only came to existence just before Islam which is 100% false. Read this link www.arabamerica.com/the-origin-of-the-phoenicians/
@@lets_wrapitup It has nothing to do with where I'm from, I'm not Greek nor Indian. My problem is only with this claim that Arabs invented algebra, when the people responsible were no Arabs, didn't originate from Arabs, just lived in regions that Arabized. Using Arabic language also means as little as Europeans using Latin, doesn't make them all Romans. Persians even have a stronger claim to algebra than Arabs do.
Arabs like to make this claim to algebra as some kind of proof of being capable of progress, while the people in Saudi Arabia (which this video is about) have absolutely zero to do with the people who worked on algebra, except for using the same language. Wahabi islam is anti-thetical to any form of progress, and this algebra claim is only used as an argument to the contrary, a false argument.
I love this guys general curiosity of different cultures and how his goal is to experience foreign culture first-hand and tell a story through photography. Amazing! One thing I dislike about Americans is that we form opinions on just about everything without experiencing it first hand vis-á-vis the news.
Not a bad way to live at all, traveling and experiencing the world!
This is a documentary about the person making a documentary... don't waste your time.
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Yeah, so anyway, Saudi women have rights? How equal? Could they go and have 5 husbands while the husbands have only her?
Could she take off the whole black bag and parade the streets in more attractive atire?
Women can be charged despite being rape victims, cant vote, or drive, who is this idiot kidding.
I hate this kind of denial, because it further helps throw a veil (pardon the pun) of silence over the oppressed women in that country who really do suffer because of backward bronze age mandates.
lmaof don't act like you care about women, in the west women have to work and still be mothers. I think its easier to be a man in the west than a woman. Men hardly do anything, yes they may don't marry more than once but they have so many women to sleep around with...Women here are so cheap, they get drunk together and take advantage of woman and there is no one to protect them.
More attractive for what , to whom mr joseph bikini is not attractive for women
you change your mentality , to normal, not sexual
Well Joseph Taggart your view is a typical western view of things.
In US interracial marriage was banned in many states until around 1965.
Women got voting rights in 1972 in Switzerland.
It is very unfortunate that women cant drive or vote but that is not the whole story. In US women make 77 cents for every 1 USD a man makes, is that equality ?. Women still make up a very small percent of the management in many European countries, so much for equality.
Wearing mini-skirts is not the end of it all (although, I am not complaining) when it comes to equality.
There are many dimensions to this problem of women equality and even western countries have not sorted everything.
dont forget about flds seventh day Adventist cult . dont forget that US has highest number of rape cases worldwide.
***** Yet Saudi-Arabian women are still not allowed to drive
At the begining he says something along the line of: i can pick out those selected women i want to talk to.
later: All the women we met, they all work and they all have collage degrees.
NOOO SHIT SHERLOCK
Yeah, but he admitted that there is "a bunch of uneducated women..." he hadn't chosen to photograph.
because common type of women with no exposure to the world or education are less likely to subject themselves so videography or photography. thats why they had to be selected.
Exactly and unfortunatly that is the majority of the women there but he say it like there's barely any uneducated women there at all.
Mackaveli7 no matter were you are there will be people who are uneducated. but there is a difference between uneducated and people who don't work or dont work for "high class" jobs or well paying.
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Gotta love Europeans who act so enlightened and their holier than thou attitudes towards Americans, while blindly ignoring their own extraordinary islamophobia.
Need proof? View the comments in this very thread.
Andrew Wang Both Europeans and Americans need to leave the rest of the world alone. They shouldn't try to impose their ways on others and then preach about diversity and coexistence.
***** if you think that that is true, then you have no right to point fingers at America.
***** if you're blaming religious fanaticism on protestants, then you haven't seen the Vatican and its stance on contraceptives.
I'm generalizing Europeans much, much less than some Europeans like to generalize Americans. Seems more than generous to me. The very fact that you're ok with saying that you hate and fear Islam means that you have no right to tell others to not generalize. There are good Muslims just as there are good Europeans, but if you insist on painting Muslims with a broad brush then you are morally giving me license to do the same to Europeans.
***** There is such a thing as European. It's called people who live in Europe. It's like how someone who lives in Asia is called an Asian.
If I told you that I hated Catholicism, how would you feel? That I am buddies with catholics?
Being an old church means nothing. There are some truly horrible practices that are very old, and the Catholic church perpetuates many of them.
You saying that catholicism is the only religion that can be reached by pure logic alone is hilarious considering how you follow a book that claims that bats are a species of birds, that planting two crops side by side is punishable by death, that if a man lie with a man he should be stoned to death, that wearing two fabrics is punishable by death, and that the sins of some people is justifiable grounds to destroy whole cities.
***** First of all, if you're going for the "being old=good" argument, then no. Catholicism's not the oldest religion. That title, for modern religions, belongs to Judaism, Daoism, and Hinduism.
beautiful and interesting but only looks at the affluent saudi women??
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I am a Christian but have no problem with other faiths, unless they they wish me and my family harm. The guy in the vid seems a very nice person and a moderate islamist, which i respect. But extremism is evil, some muslims marry young girls as young as six, and hate all things western. But i do not blame all muslims for this because Christian groups such as the amish marry young girls also do not like modern technology, Mormons can have many wives. So it basicly boils down to what you feel is right, but if thier is a god and you do evil. Evil will be done to you.
Taylor .. I dont wish you harm ... as long as you dont go to one of the islamic countries and shoot "my" people :) :) :) .... have a good one ! :) :) :) :)
Frank Christian Obviously you didnt bother to read all of my comment.
I did Alec :)
...unless God turns out to not actually be a childish and petty control freak.
Sorry bud but you are wrong about the Mormons. We don't and can't have multiple wives. The ones that do are known as the FLDS, or the "Polygamists". Yes it is true, back when the church first started it was common to have many wives. But that was very quickly abolished and hasn't been practiced for many, many years. Hope i cleared some things up :) best wishes
Best thing to do in a video that includes other than americans is to disable the comment section, it's full of hate.
Or anything that includes women who aren't filmed like sex objects XD
Yeah, because freedom of speech is for losers.
I agree with you
Agreed.
Confuzzled Tomato There's a fine line between freedom of speech and being a prick. Is freedom of religion even a thing anymore?
so what about the women there that don't want to cover themselves?
They have no choice but to oblige specially in Saudi Arabia. However, in other middle eastern cities like Dubai and Kuwait women can choose to a certain extent. Yet most families and specially men ( father, brother etc...) would selfishly refuse.
what if a man wants to marry a second wife baring in mind the two women are obliging and more then happy? oohh wait they can't in the so called land of the free (aka land of the obese and stupid). you have your culture they have there's. maybe you should open your mind to respect. Not everyone has to do things like you.
waleed mukhtar You should know, waleed, that Saudi Arabia is an extremely obese country itself, with a survey finding over 1/4 of respondents being obese (and that's not counting how many are overweight) www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2014/14_0236.htm
Additionally, the CIA world factbook lists Saudi Arabia and the US as having equivalent obesity rates, so you don't have much of a position to judge from.
Second, we're the leader of the free world because we're not stupid like you woman-fearing morons in Saudi Arabia. Tell me, what good has come out of your country besides honor killings and gold-plated AKs (not that either of those are actually good)? We created the Internet. We created the polio vaccine. We've gone farther in this universe than any other country. What have you to say for your country?
Third, I don't much care if more than two people want to get married but the systematic oppression and control of women in Saudi Arabia, which views them as equal to a piece of property, means that two women there are very unlikely to be "obliging and more than happy" to get married to the same man. Even if they are willing, it is likely because they have been brainwashed to believe it is a good option instead of finding that opinion through the ability to explore their wants and desires for their lives, which they can do in the West if not in the US.
Saudi Arabia is a disgusting cesspool of greed, obesity, Draconian violence, and misogyny. I warn you that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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The women are so warm and lovely. I'd love to have tea and chat with all of them.
Their husbands are also ready to have a chat
Plz Don’t make them feminists
The husband will shoot you they are crazy
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@@malachite-6172 bruh
Middle eastern women are so beautiful. Though I fancy indian and sri lankan women more, I still appreciate the mocha skin
Abdul Issack yeah lol
Abdul Issack I'm just not into black girls. I don't really like their hair, and their skin tone is too dark for me, I like nice mocha skin, or milk chocolate. I'm not much of a Dark Chocolate guy ;)
Are you kidding me? Women of color aren't here to please your exotic fetish. These comments make me sick.
nanasaruu They're here for MY fetish. You're a woman, You would not understand why we find women of color pretty, you ignorant woman.
nanasaruu
When did he ever said they were here only to pleasure his fetish?
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH FINDING SOMEONE ATTRACTIVE.
Stop demonizing sexuality with your pseudo-feminism.
There are more female doctors in Egypt than female doctors in the U.S.A.
Exactly, the Muslim brotherhood are backward thinkers, and the Egyptian people don't want them.
almost all members of muslim brotherhood are highly educated!
there are more than 60.000 members of muslim brotherhood who got Doctorate!
@@aymanahmad4832 sure doctorate from madrasah lol
"they are mothers, housewives, they work, ..." but stil they are not allowed to wear what they want. I respect their ' believes' , but their intelligent voices are being muffled one way or another by the patriachy (and no I'm not a feminist).
What you are is westernized.
@@Maria-wk9nf why?
So you don't believe in equal rights? Not sure what would be so awful about being a feminist
@@Maria-wk9nf lmaooo we literally wouldn't exist if men didn't see women and women didn't see men. But ok.
@@satlva2908 I like when Muslim women defend Islam when it come to female rights..deep😀
"But actually Saudi women are very active! They are house-wives, they study!" xD
@Mariam guess im going to heeeeeeeeeell whoooooooooo
@Mariam give me the proof?
They can only study very limited number of things... If girl doesn't want to be a doctor, nurse or teacher... then nothing is left other than doing house errands.
@@sickowawawa4014 I hear this a lot from non Muslims 🤦♀️.
Muslims have the Quran, which they try their best to follow...
How does that mean a non Muslim is going to hell? 💁♀️😂
@@misbahailia3345 cuz ive been raised my intitre life as a muslim and i havent pray 5 times a day for about 5 years ago, i dont wear hijab and never will, aaand im asexual wich is part of the lgbtq comunity and of course i support them as well,
ive ask multiple ustad if im still considered muslim or not, i still do zakat i still fast, i still donate money or goats for idul adha, someof them say aslong as i sitll believe that Allah is your god and hes the creator of this world im still considered as a muslim, but alot of them says im not (abviously lmao),i dont think im a muslim anymore, i mean im literally cherry picking the the quran at this point
i honestly apploud other muslim thats able to do things correctly, idk how they do it but i admire their spirit
Very interesting for me. I enjoyed the video and the narration. I lived in Saudi Arabia with my wife and kids for 2-years back in the 70's. I lived in a very small village at the time named Al Khobar. I worked at the airbase in Dhahran. My family and I traveled everywhere in the country and met with Bedouin people to the Royal family of Saud. My family and I were treated extremely well. I found the Saudi people, families, and women to be very intelligent and respectful. The women are strong not weak. They are educated and intelligent. They are nothing like what Western cultures think of them. In the West we say, "Do not judge the book by it cover".
44jarlaw I find you to be an intelligent young woman who has a chance to change minds for the better. I wish you the best in life. I have always encouraged Americans to travel outside of their country and mingle with the local people and their culture. Most Americans are ignorant beyond their own country and the only way to universal World understanding is through understanding. After living and working in many countries, I have advocated for America not to interfere with other countries and stop being the Worlds policeman. I hope and believe all people and religions of the World will get along with each other and understand each other. It is governments who are evil and people who are good and get along with each other without government involvement and propaganda. If we can not, then Satan and Jinn win.
WHAT were saudi women doing interacting/talking with you given that islam absolutely FORBIDS it, and if they are as strong as you say, why do they accept the enforced inequality/degradation islam places on them, or that males have rights to beat them
Glenys Wiseman Good questions. I am not a Muslim nor an Arab. I am a Christian man who experienced the Arab culture and many Muslim customs. My family and I had been invited to many Saudi homes and tents over a two year period of time. Sometimes the men and women would separate into two groups, men, women with the children being accepted in both groups. Sometimes in smaller groups or one family with another family this separation would not happen. That is just their culture. It is not forbidden. I say to Western women, why do you accept abuse and beatings? Is this the Christian way? Hummm. Maybe it is a human condition and not a religious one. Stop being ignorant and study other people, their culture and their religion. Their food too. Study your own history. Woman have not been free for that many years. Arab women are undergoing these changes too. You will become a more informed person not easily influenced by the misinformed. Something to strive for. I strive too.
thank you for an objective and fare opinion
Dethrone Idiocy Well FYI things have changed in Skyrim. They`re not welcoming Imperials like they once did by far. Nords are now trying to riddle their country of foreigners. There`s also no multiculturalism in Skyrim completely 100% for Nords only. What struck me was their general paranoia & mistrust of everyone there. Just sick shit. The vacancy adds reads ` Nords preferred` `For Nords only`. That says it all what country it is. I`ve been there too & didn`t like those people @ all. To hell with `em all, hope someone stamps all of them out for all I care.
I am a Saudi girl, we're very repressed people, we can not express our religious opinions, political or even cultural, the majority of people, the poor and the rich just are happy, we got used to slavery and tyranny with regret.
I see, what do you think about the western women that can sleep with whoever they want including with other women, work whereever they want- including porn and brothels e.t.c, can go where ever they want as well. But at the end of the this trend of women becoming like men has destroyed the social fabric. Children are born out of wedlock and often do not know who their father is as well. There is much more than can be said. There is the good, the bad and the ugly.
In any case, what exactly do saudi women want anyway?
I am not talking about only the Saudi girl, I'm talking about people in general, we got extremists in religion and disservice to the real image of Islam, Islam is a religion of convenience, but we made it difficult and complicated
Yeah, I live in another muslim country which is not as tight but social life is awfull here too ...
which one?
Algeria
dude its hopeless here in saudi arabia, i always dream of living a normal life...
+Fay AlBaiz Can't really imagine a Saudi Arabian using an Anime photo as your profile picture.
lol why not? i can't use my picture because i'm a girl IN saudi arabia
Fay AlBaiz k now you're just trolling me
sorry what? i don't get it ._.
+Fay AlBaiz Are women allowed to move alone? If so, learn good English and move to Europe/America when you can!
I am an American working in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, I can see women living better life here than in NYC!
+mightyali so happy to see this comment among the others
+mightyali Maybe you should pay a visit to the poor districts. See what kind of life divorced women who were disowned by their families are living
+Ihategoogle+ every place has poor regions...you can come to USA there are people living like they are in the Slums of India with high domestic abuse due to alcohol and drug usage. Saudi men are not drunk or intoxicate, if there are, it is very minute ratio.
mightyali I'm not saying that the US is the best place in the world. In fact, I'm grateful I live in Scandinavia and not in the US. However, Saudi Arabia is a much worse place for women to live, because they're not even recognized by the state as full citizens. A woman can't do anything without permission from her male guardian, which could be her own son. A divorced women may be thrown out by her family because of the social stigma against divorce. Then she has no chance of getting a job, because she doesn't have permission from a male guardian. I've read about a woman whose husband hit her and abused her, but her family wouldn't help her and told her to go back to her husband. When she tried to get help from the court to give her divorce, all her husband had to do is to say that she had been unfaithful to him (which, according to her was a lie). Then the case turned against her, and she was forced to go back to her abusive husband. I might not live in the US, but I know that such things would never happen there.
That has to do with family ties, a woman living alone is a queer thing in SA and there's this idea of having to provide for women, in Islam women don't have to spend their money on anyone else while the man is obliged to provide for his family.
But the question is, are women happier in SA or in NY? I bet it's the latter.
Okay guys, your arguments are pointless really
Also, their homes are so PRETTY!!! Ahhh! The couches are amazing!!!
See?
Told ya! :D
Lmao.
Wow so much things to comment on and all you care about are couches
How mindful of you!!!
It's weird how we have this perception in the west of the full black veils being sinister and threatening, but when you see women walking along the streets of Riyadh in them it just looks normal.
Also who do I talk to about planning out my lounge with floor seats like that, looks like a cool vibe
It's because many people are afraid of ninjas
Well actually, as a retail employee in America...a lot of these women use these veils and thick clothing to steal when they are "shopping" in the stores. Plus, when you move to another country...you either adjust to the customs somewhat (meaning lose the veils) or you stay where you came from.
Jesse R
Thank you for your insight into the stressful world of American retail employees lol
Jesse R My wife works retail. When Muslim women walk into her store (owned by LVMH in France) they can count on purchases of fragrance and cosmetics.
The Muslim women are not the segment of the population my wife has to concern herself about shoplifting.
As for adjusting to customs, understand there is a difference between "custom aka culture" and religion. Several years ago a family immigrated from Afghanistan to live with their relatives here in Charlotte, North Carolina. This story actually hit the Charlotte Observer newspaper I should add.
The young woman from Afghanistan was a devout Muslim and showed up to school wearing a Birka. The teacher made the massive mistake of proclaiming in front of the entire class: "Young lady... this is America and you do not have to wear that (Birka)".
The young lady replied: "I am a devout Muslim. I wear the Birka by choice. I thought that here in America people may follow their religious beliefs without persecution." OH SNAP!... and that was in the paper.
It is not culture or custom, rather it is the individual's religious beliefs and those beliefs are protected by the Constitution.
Several years back the Mecklenburg County school board announced that they were thinking about instituting a ban on male students having facial hair. By the way I work with the Interfaith community. The next day I contacted the law firm which represents the school system and explained on what Federal grounds members of the Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh and yes Christian communities would ask the ACLU to step in. WSOC TV two days later announced that the school district had scrapped the plan.
The Constitution of the United States is rather clear about protections of religious expression.
Now there are exceptions. For example no one has a "right" to drive hence the reason you need a license. So Muslim or not, if you do not allow a photo of your face by DMV you do not get a license.
Again this is not custom or culture rather it is about religion.
***** you should write a book. The things you wrote is articulate and captivating.
The most annoying fact for me is a lot of people focus on women's right and pay less attention on the wealth gap and hidden poverty in Saudi :'( which is more urgent issues I think.
I live in Bahrain and I'm an American woman, all American's are not ignorant. We live 45 minutes away from Bahrain and while Saudi Arabia requires the women to wear the abayas it is also apart of their culture. For everyone men and women they have very strict laws. The women here are beautiful and highly educated.
Carissa A Arab women being beautiful. Maybe one percent (I haven't seen many of them in the Arab world).
Carissa A integrated slaves to the society, just like everywhere....
wake up
Carissa A So it's acceptable for Saudi Arabia to treat 50% of the population a little better than slaves on the basis that brutal misogyny is apart of "their culture"? How utterly delusional does someone have to be to believe that's a logically sound argument? And yet I bet you're one of those people who thinks France is racist for banning the Burqa, but Saudi Arabia isn't for banning non-Muslims on pain of death. Typical Muslim-apologist logic.
+Kodiak and Grizzly Bears and you don't have any right to see them if they don't want that
look at those houses, obviously those are the elite/upper class and are happy as shit. should have been more diverse, this is like asking the rich if they are happy...when are they ever sad is a better question lol
A lot of rich people are empty and sad inside.
Day Meow
ohhh yeah I'm sure all that money and not having to worry about anything is very very very lonely and sad. I'm sure they must live a extremely hard time, if you want to really feel empty and alone inside try to live in the 3.5 billion peoples shoes in the world who live UNDER what we consider liveable wages today. fuck anyone who is living comfortably while the rest of the world is suffering and dying due to all our greed which is exactly what those people are doing, meanwhile the entire middle east is getting fucked those people are living lavishly and like kings and queens.
Day Meow
Lol, is that why they don't like to have many kids?
Cut that "they're sad and empty inside" bullshit. Life isn't a fucking Disney movie. Nearly every rich person on this earth has an easy life in luxury. And who the fuck do you think is forced to hold up the system that keeps them at the top?
Jealous much ? :p Don't abuse them 'cz they are rich , maybe if you worked as hard as you get jealous , just maybe you might become "rich" , that is if that's your life's goal !
They're educated, working women. He stated that very plainly in the video. Also, it is quite common for them to have very beautiful homes. I have a few Arabic friends who live in the US and their moms keep immaculate, beautiful, well decorated homes. Don't be rude just because the film maker decided to highlight the women's well maintained homes.
Im not sure why it is this way or how it has occurred over time but Kurdish, Persian and some Arab women are just stunningly beautiful. Prettiest women on earth.
eh, different strokes for different folks. slavic slaves ended up being pretty popular amongst the ancient arabs.
Mate gave me second-hand smoke through my phone
Lol! Me too!
Manny Edits what’s mate ?
JR Martinez it’s like a term you use towards other people, for example: dude, compadre, gringo, my nigga, etc.
Funniest part is when he goes to the downstairs living area of one home, sees the size and blurts out "JESUS!". I fell out laughing! Let that soak in for a moment!
Beautiful pictures, great story, and absolutely lovely women! I loved this little peek into their lives. Thank you ladies and thanks to the amazing photographer.
I'm from kuwait , but I hate when someone says wrong to Saudi women, because they're so amazing and smart , the Saudi women don't have to cover her face unless her husband or her family said so,
I mean they don't have to cover their whole bodes just hair and legs and arms and just wear normal clothes and they don't have to wear all black
So they aren't free, because their husband chooses for them = shitty unadvanced country.
Hasan Zaki
Enmanuele Pericles my donky ... our women are a qween's not like you'r women like a shit every one fuck thim
محمد سعد I'm muslim and you're being closed minded. Not every american/western woman is as loose as you Muslims in the middle east think they are. Most of them actually have morals you know, they're not animals as you perceive them to be.
The title is so wrong .
It's not, watch past 8 minutes
@@yushka1917 The title is wrong
I'm Mardhiya, I'm Malaysian and Muslim. I'm not wearing TENT went i go out =). My husband dont have 4 wives. My father only has 1 wife. I do have my own driving license and i can drive by my own. I also have relatives who are christian and i do respect them
alhamdulillah
but you dont live in Saudi Arabia so what is your point Mardhiya from Malaysia
series360 Her point is that not all Muslim women are oppressed, like how the media portrays us to be and how the West wants to see us. Most of the 'oppression' comes from culture, not religion. If you go to countries like Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, pretty much anywhere that is not the Middle East you can see that Muslim women are free, just like how the prophet said, that women are the 'twin halves of men'.
Let me guess u also like Kpop, lol
haahahaha
Where's the Unveiling?
What kind of "unveiling" are you talking about?
If I think and you ask why I'm thinking, will you ask me why I'm thinking?
But the writer of the article specifically said women unveiled and yet unveiled nothing? Just THINKING. What was really unveiled? That's why I'm asking.
Shylo Vilecoscious LOL Well this is called cultural differences. Photographer entered into their private places, normally someone from outside of the family is greeted at men's majlis or sitting room, he cannot mingle with women. Unveiled basically meant here showing your faces (the women) to the unknown man from the outside (the photographer).
In the video.
Are you blind or stupid?
The video literally shows Saudi women "unveiled".
Did you expect them to be naked with their fingers up their cunts?
I was worried when I first opened this vid but as a Saudi woman I did not find a single inaccurate fact, I especially loved how he pointed out the exaggerated privacy was part of the culture and not the religion, most people dont understand that it seemed to be a no sided vid which is nice to see just statements of facts, not media drama, miss information, or what people wana see or hear =)
So all Islamic countries have the same culture?! So it comes from Islam?! You kill people for leaving islam, is that having the right to choose?! Rise up like the suffragettes!!
@@charbadarc4167 May you find it in you to learn more and educate yourself
5 minutes in and I haven't heard the word woman 😒
That shows how the media like to distribute this crap news about Saudi Arabia, it's all biased and I am personally a Saudi guy, and I think westerners justify their perspective and apply it everywhere else in the world and they don't stop there but also relate these issues to core religions as well. an example that a female genital mutilation has been linked by deceptive journalists and unprofessional media personnel as an Islamic issue whereas it's A " cultural issue " and it's mainly in some of the African countries.
Because its fucking 16 minutes fucktard
half the video is an introduction to the guy's personal projects has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia u fvckn fool
Such an interesting video. These women are beautiful and strong and WELL EDUCATED! Slightly intimidated by how gracious and put together they seem. Must read more about the Muslim culture (: Such an inspirational video for all women of color that do not get proper representation in mainstream media.
well educated n yet still its a man contry n they treat women like shit, those women r too good to be treated the way they r dwn there .....if i didnt knw better i wud say saudia arabia is HELL!!!!
Tuskanii Tendii Well the world we live in is patriarchal period. Granted others countries hell is more extreme then ours in America, but women nonetheless are always treated as less than with few exceptions. Women in general deserve too be treated way better then we have been. These women are inspirational and still hold on to thier cultural identities that all too often have to be sacrificed.
well thats tru they r pretty strong to keep up with that but even thou women need to be treated better in general the way they treat their women is beyond description,they way i see it if they had a way to stop girls from being born they would ....n dont u find it stupid for a man to hav as much as 6 wives?? but still if a woman moves on becuz she feels as if there is no love, she gets stoned to death STONED that pure evil if it was just to shoot her it wudnt hav been that bad cuz its just simple death but stoned to death and the stones have to be big enough to cause damage but small enough not to cause severe damage so they cud do it continuously to torture the person. they r evil down there
Tuskanii Tendii I do feel as if they are treated in humanely. It is a different culture,different values and customs. The whole deal with the polygamist of the culture is not for me to judge. I personally believe one can love more than one person consensually. They marry so many women as a sign of thier wealth, not really for love most of the time but for the "property".Some of the women benefit from such relationship structures and others don't. Stoning is evil I agree but who am I to judge.?
Tuskanii Tendii Do you believe everything on the news and the internet to be true? Ok then, I have some cheap land for sale in southern Florida. Are you interested?
@SouadSoso
How do you know? Have you lived in Saudi Arabia you whole life and did you live in each of these woman's shoes? Stop being ignorant and a slave to the media and actually open your eyes. These are respectable woman who are not being forced to tell their story. Respect it
Please, be careful of where you get your information from. They aren't forced to stay in their homes like you say and yes, they are allowed to leave without male assistance it's just that most don't prefer too.
Why would they want to stay? Because Saudi is just like any other country. It has the good and the bad. I'm sorry to say but now you're just speaking out of ignorance. I know many Muslim woman including in my family that live there currently or would love to go like myself. Try looking at Saudi in a different perspective and maybe that will help you have correct awnsers.
And also for clarification Arabs aren't the only ones to accept Islam. There are many different backgrounds of Muslims around the world like myself.
Dethrone Idiocy LOL at your replies. I really can't believe people as racist as you still exist in this world. I'm Saudi and i've lived here all my life. Yes,we may have problems with women's rights but that doesn't mean everyone hates their lives. People are happy here and things are only getting better to be honest. As for your opinion which you seem to think are facts, they are complete bullshit. You are EXTREMELY racist and ignorant. You know nothing about Saudi to be honest and no one has the right to say anything about my country unless they've lived here. I'm extremely open minded , i'm 15 and fully saudi. I'm not religious at all, but just let the people here have faith in whatever they want to. Your stereotypes of saudis bother me to a ridiculous point cause your thoughts are dumb and worthless as FUCK.
i meet a girl in college who would not speak her mind with arab men around and cried one day cause she did not want to go back, because of the life styles, plus know enough men from there who endorse the idea that women do not need to think for them selves or even drive a car, yea a car, women protested in suadi almost a year ago wanting the right to drive themselves, each girl was arrested so yea think i got my facts, news and coverage right plus i have been over there
This guy said, "I'm sure there are a BUNCH Arab women who are not educated and they are out of work" so my questions is, Why didn't he interview at least one of them? I would like to know the opinion of at least 1 unprivileged Lady. I'm sure it will be VERY INTERESTING.
im a saudi arabian woman living in saudi arabia and this documentary unfortunately has only reviled 2% of what the culture is really about. saudi's are kind people and yes women receive education and a lot of them are happy because they sincerely belive that their way of life is the right way. but its not a matter of 'well if they want to cover they can who are we to criticize' its a matter of 'well what if they dont want to cover? can they?'
It's not a bong it's called Hookah lol
B O N G
***** Narek T. It's actually called a shisha.
Mark Gibbons shisha is the herbal cocktail you burn in it
it is a hookah
UrbanFoxRed
BONG filled with "turkish red"
its a damn hookah, ive got one next to my bed for when i watch movies with my firends
Ok my main concern is how do they survive with those black abayas in that freaking heat! Isn't that like torture to them?
mizzdiva36 its not that bad because the sun is not penetrating their skin so they don't feel as warm
mizzdiva36 it is more comfort to them during the heat, to be honest that's what my wife told me, because she wearing abaya and niqab, the only she need is to find the right material for the abaya which is not giving hot insid and protecting them from the sunlight, more benefit also to them they dont need to buy sunblock lotion, if the sun is very bright they just put cover on the eyes with their black scarf and no need sun glass, this is how Islam protecting woman. the beauty is only for their husband.
withoutm3 this not me telling this, it is Quran telling like this, I'm also not allowed to show my beauty to other woman, both side has to lower their gaze,. I'm sorry what is your believe?
Abu Abdurrahman Still, if you say that BOTH have to do that, why don't I see guys covering their faces with long black clothes?
+withoutm3 in our religion the man has some part that mandatory to cover from the navel to the knees, and for the women full of her body need to cover except the hands and the face, but it is her choice if she want to cover their hands and their face as well, like the prophet wive.
Religion ruins everything.
why you are on planet earth?... plz think.! Use your mind.. To worship the creator.. do u believe all this beautifully well-created universe has no creator..? come on man! plzzz make use of ur life before it is too late.
bachoban you dont need religion to worship/respect the creator... religion is made up by humans to control masses just like other modern mechanism...
No, false religions ruin everything.
no extremism in politics ruins everything
atheism and hedonistic ruin everything
,this is unique culture by itself i met many saudi women they are strong and well educated and happy with their lives,, i suggest you take a look at Japanese women walking seven steps behind the husband and are made to carry the grocery while husband walks like a Tarazan rooster in front leading the way, , i saw a japnese couple at the golf club the wife made to carry the heavy bag while he walked empty handed as friend i asked him can we help her he said no leave it do not spoil our culture,, this is Japan the very advanced country i respect their culture they are happy with it i should be too,
omg
Your story of the Japanese couple highlights for me why the Japanese are not marrying and producing children as they used to.
+MsColdCanada Quit talking out your ass. The vast majority of developed countries have low birth rates.
As a matter of fact, Germany has lower birth rates than Japan! And it's one of the most developed/prominent countries in Europe.
bloodspilla55 Are Germans bothering to get married anymore? There are many documentaries about Japanese women choosing careers instead of marriage because of the restrictive traditional role of wife in their culture. In what way am I thence "talking out of my ass"?
Sounds cool! Might visit Japan later
the west does well preserving it's Christian heritage without making religion a law, i hope Saudi Arabia and the rest of the middle east will follow suit. religion shouldn't be a law in any nation. but at the same time i worry not, i know that even though currently Islam in in the rise, i bet the true zeitgeist that's ahead of it is atheist movements in the middle east. the more educated these women, as well as their men become the less religious they will be. that's just the way it works.
Apart from Iran and radical group controlled areas the rest of the Middle East is fine and doesn't have Sharia law. You'll be surprised how much most Arabic countries respect other people's beliefs, don't listen to what the western media says. If you ask most Muslims they'll tell you that they hate the Saudi royal family.
Otherwise I fully agree with you. I have a saying.
Religion and politics are like bleach and ammonia; they can both be used for good and they can both be misused for bad, but mixing them together is stupid and dangerous.
I'd agree with you but that's conformity right there. Simply because one things works for you doesn't mean it has to apply to all people, hence no point in diversity. Now where there is corruption and misuse, that's in the Christian heritage as well. No point in trying to claim to be better, when you still have problems on your own plate. Just food for thought. Though I do agree certain components of the Christian heritage got it right, but I'd argue it has more to do with the fact that people wanted freedom of speech, etc, not solely due to Christian heritage itself.
I hope you speak the truth religion is what holds humanity back because of Islamic law middle eastern nations are poor and horrible places to live. Hopefully they will go through an era of enlightenment like the west did and abandon religious laws becoming secular allowing people to progress from being uneducated and not questioning the clerical views
What is christian heritage? The west that has come to allow same sex marriages and will soon have most people born out of wedlock (aka in bastards in proper English language) and produces and has strip clubs and pornography among other things, and for the most part hates religion and the concept of God, are you saying that this west is protecting its christian heritage? Today the very concept of religion is considered vile in the west. People can do what they want in their personal lives and time and place but in any case, religion is hated! I am talking about the dominant way of thinking.
Cal Johnston
People in the west need to comprehend the fact that the rest of the world is has not experienced what the west has. The catholic church and its opressive anti-enlightenment policies have not existed in the Muslim world. And the most imporant bit is that Islam has NO clergy! There is no class in society like the clergy in christondom. There has not been a war against science and free thinking. When Islam was at the height about 1000 years ago from now, that is when people were the most free thinking and produced intellectual giants.
The concept that we have to abondon religion and become secular is what west learnt throught its own experience with the catholic church. Such an entity has never existed in the Muslim world and Islam is void of the concept of clergy and pope!
Islam is basically a "burhan" and not terrorizing people to make it accepted. Yes I know there are people terrorizing now in the 20th century. However, in the history of Islam that spans about 1400 years and all three continents Asia, Europe and Africa, it has been propagated as "burhan". What is "burhan", it can be roughly translated to clear proof. If you read the Qur'an you will actually find the book is asking questions from the reader and make them ponder and think.
they are just rich , not strong
echafaud Im glad somebody notes a difference
echafaud They believe they are strong. Who are your to say otherwise?
Not strong ? U ain’t got a clue!!!!!!
The real title of this video should be: GUY PROMOTING HIS WORK.
I'm friends with a young married couple from Saudi, she was so bold and confident! She spoke good things about Saudi, especially the progress when it comes to women's rights(she is learning to drive currently) she turned my views around as she told me women usually are treated like a princess as any good husband should treat their loved one, however there are those men out there that will control/abuse them and blame it on religion but it's like that anywhere in the world domestic violence is everywhere. Her husband was such a gentlemen! He even would watch out for me when I wasn't with my boyfriend, he is very protective kind friend. Meeting them really crushed a lot of the stereotypical things you hear about Saudi. Also she never wore a veil, hijab, burka nothing, so it isn't forced on you like the media says unless u have a strict family etc but nonetheless she is quite a free spirit! Changed my views for sure, don't take everything too literally
It's a rare case in majority it's always too bad even princess are held captive.
@@dsbmaximus406 I’ve never been to Saudi so I have been going off what this couple have taught me, perhaps the area or city they’re from makes a difference because they crushed all those stereotypical things for me, they were just so freaking cute and sweet and I just loved them haha I like to think that more people in Saudi are living life like they were
just want to say that the quran doesn't say ANYWHERE that women must wear hijabs or cover their faces or anything of that sort. people took it to that level. yes, there are women that choose to dress that way and that's their choice, but i'm sick of this being what makes you a "true" muslim and i'm sick of people telling me and other muslim women that we're going to hell for not wearing a black sheet over our heads. this is not a requirement in islam. you don't have to be walking around covered from head to toe to be modest, if that were the case, then men should be wearing the exact same because modesty is asked from men as well. last of all, stop claiming there is equality, it's not equality that i can't marry anyone who isn't muslim but a muslim man can marry a person of any religion, it's not equality that my husband has the right to marry 3 other women and i have to be with one man.
that thing about muslim women not being allowed to marry outside the religion, i would say that's less about equality than maintaining the dominance of islam. under the traditional expectation that the man is the head of the household, the children are expected to follow in his footsteps in regards to religion. so only a muslim man can marry outside his faith, since he can most likely decide his children's faith and thus expand islam.
i wonder if the jewish matrilineal heritage has similar connotations, but i confess i'm less familiar with it.
renge9909 see that's the thing, why are men supposed to be the ones carrying the family name, the ones carrying the family religion, the ones having this and that? this is the root of problems in islamic societies. yeah.. that's another thing... why is there a clear male dominance in the religion? at least if we're going to let that be a thing, we should admit to equality not being in islam. it is completely hypocritical saying that islam is equal when men have at least 4 times the freedom and importance women do in many aspects. when studying the quran and learning islam, i was told that women and men are equal and that women must be valued and respected but in muslim societies.. i don't see that at all..i mean in bibles it literally says women are lesser than men, but does it say that in the quran? if it doesn't, then how come women are treated like less in islamic societies, but in christian ones women are close to being seen as equal?
konaramen women not being forced to work isn't a kingdom. women are still forced to marry men they don't want, men literally buy their marriage, they're forced to marry young, they're forced to have sex with them and it wouldn't count as rape even if it really is rape, he has the right to abuse her in most countries, he has the right to make her cover up, he has the right to keep her from working, she is literally his slave. you're telling me to look at both sides when you're the one acting like these two sides are equal. sure, maybe some are lucky with a hard working kind husband who leaves her to do the housework (which many people say is far harder and far less rewarding seeing as they end up raising children and taking care of the house and everyone in it) but that's nowhere close to as bad and men are in no way forced to do those things. the things i mention are things that are constantly shown and reinforced in our societies. and i'm not saying this as a european or american who is just judging based on what i read, i'm saying this based on what i hear and see and fear for myself. and last of all you said "too many muslims" are acting this way towards their wives, i don't know where you live but i've seen too many cases of women whose faces have been melted off by acid for saying no to their husband or saying no to a man who wanted to marry them and most of what i've seen are men overriding their authority and abusing their wives in these societies in one way or another so you're definitely over exaggerating. you're acting like a woman almost being the mans slave is as bad as a man willingly working to provide for himself and his wife due to social expectations is on the same level and it really is not. oh and if you haven't noticed, i'm arab, i'm muslim, and i live in the middle-east, so this is not just things i "hear" of, these are things i know are real.
konaramen i would say that out of the three main religions (christianity, judaism, and islam) i have surprisingly found the least evidence of sexism in islam. regardless, muslim societies are the ones that have most sexism today. the sexism in christianity and judaism is almost sickening, honestly, i was so shocked honestly because you'd never expect that from them seeing as their societies don't reflect such things. but i suppose its mostly because islamic societies are very anti-reformation and progression, unlike christian and jewish societies.
konaramen sorry, the first was meant for ***** ( i dont know why it tagged you) an the second is towards you because you mentioned sexism in religions. no need to get so angry over it though lol.
I'd bet about 60% of people only clicked on this to hate
not without reason
Found a hater...
Mercedes Rollin' Drug-Smuggla ...despising muslims is a very normal reaction, and not hate
Islamophobia is hatred not opinion, not reaction and it's certainly not normal. Clearly you know nothing about the religion other than what white liberal media has taught you.
***** ...you must be important and your opinion must matter
Whether you like our culture or not
you have to agree that my country is interestingly mysterious place for outsiders.
You can talk about human rights, Gender inequality or freedom of speech but the fact remains that Saudi Arabia is in fact a must see destination.
That's if we allow it :>)
God protect My King and Kingdom.
Great Upload
Much Appreciation.
Grew up in your country in the city of Jeddah and I loved it, love the people and love the culture! Love Saudi Arabia!
TMSH90 Jealous enough :)?
We got Tons of places to see and visit and in this age of internet, u can search what places we have :). "Skyscrapers" are old news man now we are turning deserts to green and habitable places, Thanks to . Yes we are blessed with oil and Islam and this is the first time to see someone blames us for being filthy rich :).
Funny thing u said about slaves? LOL ?
What Slaves ? damn it, stop believing Disney Channel :)
Envious bastard :)
Funny when you are bragging about democracy while your welfare country is begging other nations for money. It is either DEMOCRACY is a FAILURE or YOU ARE SO CORRUPT AS A NATION. Really, i couldn't care less :) enjoy your democracy :)
BTW, U must be really desperate if you think i'm gonna read all the BS u wrote. LOL
***** Well said.
Enough said bro
These are rich people
😂
+emac john Bot not all of them
+emac john I noticed that too. It seems kind of like over here where the richer you are the more freedom you have or at least positive attention.
Well, usually, in any country, the richer had more freedom that the poorer.
Maha لاعبين علييهم 😂😂
This is an extremely thorough attempt at obscuring and obfuscating the reality and truth of what the culture, people, and lifestyle are truly like in Saudi Arabia. Just as an example, of which there are infinite, an Australian woman who had moved to Saudi Arabia and was working in an expensive resort style hotel was raped by six six of her male co workers. When she tried to go to the police to report this heinous crime she was imprisoned because in Saudi Arabia the law is that unless there are seven (I believe it was even may have been more) witnesses to a rape then the guilty party(s) will not be prosecuted and in a completely ass backwards way of addressing the crime the victim ie the woman is imprisoned for acting in a way that tempted the men to rape her. So this poor woman spent 2 years in a Saudi prison for being gang raped by six sick pieces of trash that don't deserve to be called men, until Australia was able to have her entitled back to her birth place. This is a recent example, which took place two years ago if my memory serves me correctly. Point is this is not some progressive country, but rather a place run by archaic ideologies that are forced on the citizens whether or not they choose to follow or believe in the national religion.
Get your facts right. It was UAE not Saudi Arabia.
that was in the UAE not Saudi Arabia get your facts right
Lol your silly story was in United Arab Emirates not in Saudi Arabia!
saxonflyer screw off whiteboy.
saxonflyer screw off you albino piece of bird shit.
I m not from Middle East a
but i am living in here, and dealing daily with Saudis i can tell that their women are even more stronger than usual woman.
omfg What can I do to have eyes just like the women in the Middle East??? They are absolutely gorgeous!!!
Stronger? Did you wrestle them?
Aneta Cetnarska by stronger i mean that the freedom which they have and the confidence in them. All the world think that Saudi Husbands pressurise their wives but it's the other way around (Mostly).
She is from Yale! HOLY SHIT! Nice!
So what?
+Ha Kou Yale is the an Ivy League college and is ranked in the US as the 3rd best college in the entire country. Basically it's hard as fuck to get in and once you're there you have to put in a lot of work.
but it's a bit easier when you are muslim or afro-american.
Mr. Whatareyadoin When you're opressed and have nothing to do but study, and you have a rich father, you can easily go into Yale
+Ha Kou actually our government pay us to go to college and give us scholarship easily to the best colleges in the world. So I don't blame you if you are mad about it because our country see that we are the once who's going to take care of our land and make it better. Thanks
I love how I only saw this vid 7years after it was published like why are things like this not front page
When I read all those hateful comments here, I really wonder where the people who wrote them get their opinion from. All religions have good and bad aspects and most of what I read here seems to come from people who are misinformed or uneducated on this topic. I bet 90% who posted something here have not read the Quran, 80% have not yet visited a muslim country and 70% have not yet had contact with a muslim person. Also, people should think twice about where terrorism has its roots. I think its origins are hatred, fear and lust for power - not religions. We should try to judge people by what they do, not by what they believe in.
Actually :D 90% of the people who commented are ex-muslims, or muslims or from those muslim countries ===> dude youuuu have noooo idea what you talking about. STFU.
lawanid Now what´s the matter with you? Why do you feel the need to tell people to shut up and why do you assume I have no knowledge on this subject? Actually I am an ex-muslim with an entire muslim family from a muslim country. My point was simply that we shouldn´t judge people by their beliefs, but by their deeds and that many people have misconceptions about religion, especially Islam.
And btw, did you count and analyze all the comments to make an evaluation for your 90%? Let me know if you did, it would be interesting to know how you questioned every youtuber who commented this video about their beliefs and experiences with Islam.
^ Well said. I was just trying to make the atmosphere a bit cooler :D it seems I faaaailed >:o lol.
lawanid you have a strange sense of humor.
Ryan mailman Wow, don´t be surprised if you offend someone by saying "fuck the Quran". To some people religion means freedom and happiness. It´s just one of many ways how to live life and enjoy it. It´s a philosophy, a lifestyle - and deserves the same respect as any other opinion.
"...The veils do not cover or obscure our minds" - That struck me right to my heart. These are amazing wimmyn.
That’s a very false title. It’s what the photographer says “the view he wants people to see” nothing truly actual or worth watching in this video
Hardly learned anything in these 17 minutes...
I just hate when people say "Muslims are terrorists!" Have you ever met Muslim? Have you ever learned the religion? If you don't like Islam then don't blame all Muslims blame the specific groups that are cruel like "ISIS"
Saudi Arabian girl here..
One thing that strikes me about westerners is that they speak of cultural change in a culture not their own as if it is something that should be incumbent upon the indigenous culture. just because their 'enlightenment era' theories about objective truth and reason inspire them to think outside of cultural exclusivity, they lack respect for other cultures without realizing it, somehow implying that an unwillingness to change is a sign of backwardness, stupidity, anti-truth, anti-reason, etc. What really enrages me is when you oppose the intrusive, invasive nature of the westerner in relation to your own culture and they get offended as if YOU, the defender of your own culture, is insulting THEM, the invader and inquisitor of ways and people that have NOTHING to do with their own origin.
Get used to it, Ottoman rule for centuries has changed the makeup of south eastern Europe forever.
American Women were once in the same boat as Saudi Women.
13 Things that women could not do in America in 1967 (America was still an Ultra-Conservative Society).
1. Serve On A Jury
2. Get A Credit Card
3. Easily Accessible Birth Control
4. Run The Boston Marathon
5. Buy Women's Athletic Shoes
6. Have The Option Of Attending Co-Ed Ivy League School
7. Keep Their Job If They Became Pregnant
8. Attend A Military Academy Or Fight In Combat
9. Practice Law
10. Refuse Sex With Their Husbands
11. Legally Obtain An Abortion
12. Take A Stand Against Sexual Harassment
13. Take Legally-Mandated Maternity Leave
We are happy to be a Muslim we have a great life and all of peoples must share all this things .
interview poor women would be more realistic .
the real question is are they able to practice what they have achieved?
Sarah B you know wtf i ment by they. The documentary is only about them so im just in using that as a description . Also from your narrow minded perspective seems.like you think you are better than the rest of the women in the world. Ok your mother works but.i want to know about the majority or the less fortunate. Good day 🎩
If i was racist i would've said something horrible and stupid like terrorist. There is no law that says i have to be "pc"
+Sarah B "We're all children of the earth, no matter where we come from!" - yeah, the only difference is we do not subjugate the other gender based on fairytales.
Sarah B
Tell me a good reason why someone should subjugate another person then, demonstrate that my point of view is wrong. Tell me why should I consider someone inferior from a human perspective. And I do not generalize, it's reality, what planet are you living on?
Why should I tell someone how to dress, act, or talk? How am I in a superiority position to dictate what another human should do?
Sarah B
"Saudi Arabia is one of the only Muslim-majority countries that legally imposes a dress code (Iran is another). Women, foreign and local, must wear an abaya (a few get away with long coats) in public places." - care to explain your benevolence involvment in wearing your abaya when it is imposed by law?
Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country in which Islamic law is strictly enforced.
"THE WOMEN WHO SEES WITHOUT BEING SEEN FRUSTRATED THE COLONISER" -Franz Fannon
Let them stay frustrated
Judging by the number of frustrated commenters I would have to agree.
This video showed women in Saudi Arabia are beautiful, well educated and hardworking. I do not see why people from other country are making fuss about their cultural clothes. I believe a woman with a very good heart makes her more beautiful and special. Saudi Arabian women are beautiful is just that they have to cover up themselves for a reason. God bless.
They are forced to cover up in Saudi Arabia.
They are not allowed to leave the house without a male companion even if it is a 10 year old cousin.
They are treated as second class citizens.
They cant work
They cant drive
So are you allowed to leave the house without a male companion?
Do you still have your clitoris?
Thank you Rachel. God bless
Thanks for your support. :)) it really means a lot.
I think Saudi Women are beautiful and interesting. They always seem to have a lot of character and strength within their choices and personality.
It's a shame they have been convinced they would be damned for having a relationship with me.
+Charles Curt Here we go again, another American lumping all 'Muslim' women together and acting as if they're one entity with one culture and of course he knows-it-all, expose the truth, and ofc dismiss whatever is said by someone else. He was talking about SAUDI WOMEN. specifically why do you have the need to bring all other nationalities of women into this just because they're suppose to share the same religion? Last time I checked, many Russian, Filipino, Korean, Australian, Serbian, Spanish, Dominican, Brazilian, Kenyan girls are Christians too like many American girls yet their own culture plays a big role in their overall attitude, values, needs, outlook..etc. and influence their reactions to everything and anything in life itself, I'm not implying anything negative against any nationality of women, I respect all women including American women whom you're trying to hate on here, I'm just telling it as it is being a Saudi girl myself: sharing religion isn't everything, culture matters more.
Have you ever 'dated' Saudi women yourself? until then, no need to speak like an expert
+Apathy I'm Saudi woman and can't really understand what you mean by the last part?
***** You're referring to basic evolution theory. That women will be far more selective than men about their sexual partners, and will tend to seek those with the most resources to invest in their children. The reason why we're more 'carefully selecting men' than say, women from more equal countries is because we're judged harshly and overall more traditional. I would NEVER sleep with a man without him being serious if he is western and if Arab, even if he has all the qualities I like in a mate and I'm in luv head over heels, sleeping before marriage \ commitment is out of the question and guess what, I'm not even religious.
But what I don't understand is, why do you consider causal sex bad? I'm not gonna judge here, just curious to know why.
***** Another American guy told me before similar thing, that women get hurt from promiscuous lifestyle far more than men. Since women feel attached more or develop feelings for the other sexual partner easier than men and after a certain age, the emotional baggage is going to be too much to handle and might affect her in a negative way, emotionally, physically, mentally..etc. If you feel so, that's noble of you as it is about women's well-being not blatant hatred against female species lol or their freedom to choose.
Intergalactic Nomad Well, I am both English and atheist. I can only imagine that most Muslim women would see that as a potential issue,, am I wrong?
In Saudi Arabia there is absolutely no prohibition of marital rape because the very concept does not exist in Saudi Arabia. Hell, rape isn't even specifically codified in law as illegal and prescribed punishments for it do not exist. Women who are alone with a man in violation of purdah are actually punished if they are subsequently raped. I think it's important to note these facts for context. It's laughable to me when people say this dress is for the safety of women, which doesn't seem like a priority in the slightest.
Ok
16:38 mins of a men talking about him, and 2 mins of a Saudi Arabian Women interview.
For those who are going to and have already commented saying "Islam oppresses women, etc."
You should know the difference between "culture" and "religion"
Islam actually treats women like goddesses, we're put on golden thrones compared to men. (no offence to you men :P )
What Saudi Arabia does is, they mix culture and religion so much that outsiders misunderstand what Islam is really about. And if you really watched this video to understand and not critic then you would've noticed how all the women in these videos are highly educated. So no, they are not oppressed.
And to be frank, ALL Middle Eastern countries have working women, women who drive and frankly everything! (with a few exceptions due to a woman's physique eg: construction or being a bus driver)
I lived in The United Arab Emirates (the country with Dubai in it) and I loved it so much. Now that I'm back in America, I actually miss it there because I felt more secure. (but that's just me)
And for those who have Islamaphobia, you're basically hating a religion because of what the media portrays. I'm not going to tell you to do your research because let's be honest you won't. But if most people are ready to learn or stand up for homosexuals. Then why not try to do the same for all Muslims. We're all human.
Basically what I'm saying is, if something is foreign to you. Don't be so quick to judge. Be open minded.
at last some one with brain who is not dumb like those who their eyes attached to the media ,, well said ... u got my respect... ^__^
I generally don't drape objects that I place on pedestals in blankets so that no one else sees them.
Wait did you just say that women don't have the necessary physique to drive buses? In my town here in Vancouver BC (Canada) there's this woman bus driver that I see from time to time. Trust me, out of all the bus drivers that I've had taking me to different destinations she's easily in my top 5 best drivers. Maybe you should consider the fact that you're still slightly brain washed by those who oppress women and try to justify it.
What I said had nothing to do with a fact that women can't drive buses! There are other factors as in problems that occur in buses like people fighting in buses, all sorts of things that could be harder for a woman (I never said women cannot do it). Especially if it's two males fighting. And if woman are treated like queens, they don't have to drive buses. That's the whole point of being superior.
You my friend clearly don't practice the religion and don't know anything about cultures that follow Islam, so don't talk for them!
With all the technology and advancements out there, women who are being oppressed speak up. You don't see any Muslim woman complaining about being treated like a dog.
Besides I represent a normal Muslim girl and I'm super happy with my life. I don't need outsiders telling me or any other person what muslim women go through -_-
You don't live with one. You don't live like one. You don't bother getting to know one and asking them questions. But instead go on the internet, go on the most unreliable websites to research about Islam and women's rights. If you really thought muslim women were being oppressed, why don't you befriend one and get to know them in and out and while you're at it learn about Islam from them (NOT THE INTERNET) get to know her family and community and we'll see who's wrong.
Besides I don;t have time to argue with people who clearly don't know true facts about a religion they clearly despise. It's like trying to make the sun rise from the west instead of the east (IMPOSSIBLE)
You say that I'm brainwashed. Well my friend, you are talking about yourself because brainwashed people hate and argue about topics where they can't back their shit up (excuse my french)
As I said, it's impossible to try and convince people like you. No matter what a MUSLIM girl or any muslim as a matter of fact says. You're one of those who believe the "media"
The so beloved "media" that bashes anything good because war, sex, poverty, propaganda's, etc sell.
Good bye my friend. I don't have anything else to say.
I just hope that you would find it in your heart that not everything in the media or wherever you get your information is in black and white. And also there are two sides to a stroy. All you've been doing is listening to one side.
Peace.
***** You seem smart and maybe your source of information has facts but it could also have tons of faults in it too.
All I'll say is this. Women in Islam are never treated as 2nd class. In Islam this is what Allah (SWT) a.k.a God says about them: First is your mother then your mother then your mother then comes your father. A woman just came three times before a man! What other religion says that? He also says Heaven lies under the feet of your mother. He also says when a girl is born into a family, their blessings double. Now how does that sound 2nd class to you? If you still think so, why not look up Queen Rania of Jordan and look at the things she does and yes! She is MUSLIM WOMAN. Can you still call that 2nd class?
MAYBE what you're reading has something to do with a culture. Because nobody can practice a religion perfectly.
So don't mix the two up. People often mistaken the two.
And maybe those women don't want to do anything superior with their lives. Maybe they like living under the radar.
American chiming in. Nothing wrong with other cultures but what is wrong is when women do not have equal rights as men, if you want to wear a burka then no problem, but if you HAVE to wear one because men make you then that's not fine. Any culture that gives equal rights to women is a better culture than ones that do not, it's just the truth. Unfortunately these unjust laws have their basis in the Quran so it's unlikely to change unless they have reformation like Christians did a few hundred years ago.
@@emZee1994 what if I were to tell you, God is made up.
I have a lot of respect for muslim women. It's good that they wear what they wear. They're not worried about wear fucking designer shit buying worthless purses for like 500 dollars. They're not attached to material things like girls here in America worrying about impressing a guy they've never met . wearing skimpy shit and Spending hours getting ready to impress someone they don't even know yet.
It's sad, some of these women are absolutely gorgeous and as smart as any other women in any other country. I definitely appreciate what he's trying to do.
I'm from Saudi Arabia
um.....k
Well hello _gorgeous_ you Arab boys are just _too_ handsome !
...*facepalm*
Only Saudi's, Kurds and Turks are Hot.. In the Middle East.. No one else... us 3 countries have the best looking people in the middle east
TMinaj Virginia Racist much?
all I saw there was ninjas
hAHAHA!
Amina HagiHussein HAHAH lovely.
I can't imagine ever having to explain to my daughter why it is OKAY that she was just assaulted....
Or "You must cover your hair because its... uhm immodest?" I dont understand how a woman's hair is immodest
@@supmaidoods8753 no body part is immodest lol, its how you choose to act in public (which includes how you appear) and sometimes in private as well that defines modesty or immodesty. There are also different levels, for example in islam women have physical modesty to observe in all women gatherings as well, and its more than the modesty required of men around other men.
Arab women are so underrated they have beautiful skin eyes long hair and great bodies 😭
as a saudi man they are more than just beauty and they are not abused but whatever you people say