The rewatch where you can notice Verbal's eyes looking over the board and glancing up at the bottom of Kujan's cup show this is a masterfully done narrative.
And enjoying rewatching every scene with Kaiser 'observing' his operation from the inside .. gives new depth to Kobiashi also who would know the boss is in the room but never look to him for reaction... the perfect 2nd for the puppet-master. 🧐
one of the most often overlooked clues is the scene where the camera goes 360 around all of our heroes and Kobayashi. you see verbal Kent light a cigarette with a gold lighter while a gold watch is visible. then when Keyser soze kills in the beginning of the movie. you notice he has the same watch and the seem lighter it was right there in front of you
The shot of Kujan dropping the coffee mug is just absolutely amazing. You kick yourself for not seeing sooner that Verbal was pulling strings all along and in fact, Verbal was Kaiser Soze.
...or is it that Virgil (furious that Kujan is setting them up) starts gathering information in Kujon , just on case Kujon (is?/works4?) may lead Virgil to identifying "K-S" (if there's such an individual whatsoever) ??? 🤔🤗🤣
Precisely. Only the actors’ scripts made it that “anyone of them could be Soze” because it was tactic to stir the pot for the final twist. Apparently the reveal of Kint being Soze really pissed off Gabriel Byrne that he and Singer had heated words after the film’s premiere; they quickly made up though
What if he wasn't? What if, its just an alias? What if there is no keyzer soze at all?? What if Kobayashi was Soze? We have watched the whole movie through the eyes of Verbal, we don't know if that is true, but though the first scene with the golden lighter and gold watch and the ending scene relates Verbal as Soze, we are made to believe that. the first scene might be an imagination too, who knows😂
@@ShubhamMishrabro well, he was made to believe that because Verbal was the one to kill all the others, or the Hungarian survivor only saw him killing the rest, but it doesn't give any proof that Verbal is Soze, or any of that sort. I think there is no Soze at all, it is a myth, a legend in the criminal world to scare the shit out of everyone
The story about how Benicio del Torro created the voice of Fenster is the best thing about this movie... Everyone thought he was joking around at first.
This is an important comment actually. They intentionally wrote the story for Kujan to be in someone else's office - precisely so that he would not recognize the names and stories Verbal was telling off that board. While I was watching this very video, I actually thought how important that little detail was.
After he said "his own office" the second time, I had to close the video. If he got wrong something so basic, I don't see the point of listening to anything else.
another thing to mention about the kobayashi and verbal scene: when asked "who do you work for?", if you pay attention to his eyes, for a SPLIT second you'll notice he briefly looks at Verbal before returning his gaze to the asker and replying: l work for Kaiser Soze"
Last week I was in San Pedro, California. I Went to the Friendship park/ Korean friendship bell where the "Redfoot" scenes were filmed and then to the San Pedro Municipal building where the finale/Soze reveal street scene was filmed. It was so cool to visit these 2 spots and stand where 2 of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies was filmed. They still look exactly the same.
Suggestion for us _all,_ from now on we watch Spacey's movies or TV shows, for _only_ for the entertainment they bring us. Nothing to do with his personal life or poor choices at all. Qe can enjoy whatever we want to with no regrets or moral issues. As there are many other actors in these films too. This applies to his already made content only though. As we _really_ don't want 'Hollywood' to make money with him anymore. However, his past 'creative projects' don't make him money, _if_ we already own them. We just watch & enjoy ourselves. Does this sound like an okay plan?? 🤗
Kaiser failed in the end. Someone got his image out. The whole mission was to stop this being exposed. Great film but sadly Kasier fails. He looks cool leaving but now they know him. Wasn't the whole point so they never would.
Maybe but the whole point was to never be recognised and now he his. Before he could swoosh...he was gone but now.... I didn't really think about until a while after watching the film. I love the ending and the reveal but it is slightly ruined by the fact that ultimately he failed the whole reason why he put himself in such jeopardy. It's cool but flawed.
Des Derek The informant who was on the boat that the Argentinians were going to trade is dead. Kaiser got rid of him so he can never testify in court. The Hungarian who described what he looked like for the sketch artist died. They may have a sketch artists drawing if Soze (assuming that the video theory is wrong and that is not his henchman Kobayashi) but everybody that could have testified against him in court is dead. There are no witnesses and no loose ends. Sounds like an overrall win to me.
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Brock Lee possibly but that not suggested by the movie. Just watch the difference between how Kobayashi and Verbal/Keyser are portrayed. So logically yes but cinematically no.
Verbal IS Keyser and "Kobayashi" is just his right hand man/assistant. I think Keyser gave Kujan fake names for all the ppl involved including his assistant but that the story was true. He made a point of saying he's not a rat, and jumped hoops to eliminate someone who ratted HIM out with the whole rouse to hijack the boat. I think "Kobayashi" and Keyser pretended not to know each other to fool the other four. And I think Keyser made a point of killing the rat on the boat himself because he wanted to be sure it was done and that no one would talk about it later.
The same man that wrote and directed the last two Mission Impossible movies, which shows Christopher knows how to build tension like a boss. The Usual Suspects is one of my favourite movies from the 90s.
@@JoBloOriginals Mcquarrie has a cameo at the end of TUS, he is the cop, talking to a couple, just out of focus and he looks right at the camera...laughing. Also think The way of the gun is a good movie as well
I read somewhere that apparently, Gabriel Byrne, was led to believe that he was Keyser Soze during the filming of 'The Usual Suspects' and was so surprised, seeing the finished movie, during the premier that he got into an argument with either Bryan Singer or Christopher McQuarrie in the parking lot after it.
Well some things did happen, them setting a cop car on fire actually happened, the shoot out at the parking spot where they stole the brief case actually happened and some other things.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they all where in on it and faked their deaths. Keaton has done it before and the money was at the docks but police never said they had it. The guy who saw him how would he know? The one guy who knew what he looked like was killed on the boat
@@each1teach1academy43 I buy that - after all verbal was the one who knew how to make it so nobody died, he masterminded the whole thing so they could fake their deaths and start a new life
I don't think the comment that Verabal is holding Soze's lighter and watch holds up. Assuming the latter is real, his reputation is clearly fierce enough that no one would ever smoke his cigarettes or use his lighter without asking permission first. To me, the genius of the movie is that Verbal has to give enough truth to align his story with details that Kujan can independently verify. For example, Verbal probably was in the lineup, because it would be on record. Verbal doesn't necessarily know how quickly they could dig that information up. Given that Kujan has a history with Keaton, he might have even already reviewed reports about the lineup. That would be too risky. So Verbal can only lie about moments where there are no living witnesses... So the conversation in lockup and encounters with Kobayashi are probably made up. Stop to think that it may not have even been Pollak that pulled off the heist that got them all arrested at the beginning (no one else in the room is alive to confirm his reaction). The heists and interactions with the police would be real. So Verbal had to use a lot of truth to conceal a few lies that would allow him to slip away.
Well, one thing for certain, the real Verbal Kint is swimming with the fishes, because Soze needed someone weak of the five that he could use as cover, and Kint fit perfectly in what he wanted, and it not a twist, but a double twist, the first twist meant to be predictable, that Keaton was Keyser Soze, only to the rug be pulled under your feet and be reveal that Kint was Keyser Soze.
@@plasticweapon You cant simply create an identity from zero in the underworld, in the underground dog east dog, and everyone known their reputation from lesser to scary, is more easy take the identity of someone else than create a new one.
I seem to have seen the same climax in some other movie as well where the interrogation misleaded by story details all made up from the clues in the room itself.......Please help me remember what movie it is.......
I always found this movie a pain in the ass to watch because the entire point of raiding the boat was to kill the one man who could identify kaiser zoze, but by the end of the movie, the plan goes tits up to such a degree that the entire police department knows what he looks like! And sure, while he might be able to disappear entirely, which is what was implied in the movie, he might as well have done that anyway and not risked the boat assault at all in that case. Someone please explain to me why I am wrong, because if it weren't for the ending where EVERYONE finds out who he is, I would actually like this movie
The guy on the boat is not only going to tell what he looks like. He was going to turn informant. He could be put on a witness stand to testify in court. The police could get him to confirm all kinds of crimes Soze had commited had others commit. He could have led law enforcement to all kinds of evidence but now he can't because Soze silenced him.
also it’s important to understand that, according to Keiser’s plan, nobody was supposed to survive the boat. He didn’t know that the Hungarian dude had survived, (which he got very lucky too), and didn’t know about the sketch, which something that could’ve fucked him over.
The only question I had after watching this movie was: when was Keyzer committing his profitable crimes if he had to spend so much time hunting just one witness? And considering that after executing his entire overcomplicated plan he has left another witness and lighted up, and the police now has his photo and fingerprints, this looks like a really shoddy job.
My personal theory... Keyser Soze is, as was mentioned in the film, a criminal world boogeyman. Who he is played up to be in the film is all conjecture, 3rd+ hand accounts, and unverified claims of working for him. I do believe that someone in the world of this film once fit the description of Soze. But, as with all myths & legends, they are far more useful as a compelling story than as a definitive fact. I would argue that Kint & Kobayashi are really just exceptionally good con men that convinced everyone that the Devil was real, and they were able to do so because everyone else was willing to believe it. This also applies to the Hungarian mobster in the hospital. There is no Keyser Soze. At least not a person as professed to in the movie.
Why does no one ever talk about the piss? At the beginning of the movie the Kaiser character takes a piss on the boat, then later in the movie Kint says he has a problem where his piss is thick and like mucus. (or something like that). Further confirming Kint is Soze. 🕵🏻♂️
This is a movie where I can separate the art from the artists (Spacey and Singer) due to how well the film is made. The acting is insanely good, Singer’s direction is tight & McQuarrie’s script is loaded with unique turns and the final twist is his best
its not about seprating art from the artist.... some people simply do not want to put money in the pockets of bad people.. im sure they all acknowledged that these are talented individuals
I don’t view it as a complete fabrication, he just changed up the names and places. So many contrarian film students are making none sense videos claiming it’s all false or that Soze isn’t real. I believe the answer is straight, Verbal was Soze, the lighter was the key clue.
0:28 : notice that in this very early scene, it looks like there's a light coming from INSIDE Verbal, and in a few scenes later in the movie, characters look dazzled by Soze's presence. It's like the truth was there from the beginning
Just watched it for the first time and to be honest I expected Kint to be Sosye the entire time, I just wasn’t sure how it all worked out. It was a great reveal at the end, even if I’m a bit confused about why he had to go through such an investigation if he was already given immunity.
Same, there were a few times when somebody would say the name Sosye and it would cut immediately to a shot of Kint, and I thought it was too on-the-nose. The way Kint would talk about Sosye reminded of the bad guy from Fast and Furious 4, too haha. The villain who was right under your nose. But I enjoyed the film nevertheless.
That wasn’t Kujons office that Kint sat in. So clearly he could cherry pick ideas from the board without Kujon knowing. It wasn’t his office and the guy it belonged to was never in the office while Kint was cherry picking. Very clear, and we’ll done. Missed that one
@@issi529 nicee, yeah I did watch that movie on Netflix not too long ago. Kinda messed up that Netflix kept that movie where he is accused of raping and killing someone, after all the allegations made against him and being fired from house of cards. Makes you wonder
I just watched it a couple hours ago, 25 years after. It is really a great plot twist, and nobody spoiled me the finale, like the sixth sense or the others. I tried to watch this some years ago but the beginning of the movie is slow, dense and boring and I gave up, I´m glad I finally made it
@@makaiyotube The beginning is not slow and boring at all! The overall pacing is quite ideal! THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS is for example much slower and boring!
Hi! I love what you've done here, and I see the point in making a video (since you are a content creator and a clear fan of the film). I love your videos and it makes me consider things I haven't before. There is a 'but' here. He has the gold watch and lighter at the end, but he doesn't hand them to "Kobayashi". He pockets them and gets into the car. Also, "Verbal" is the only one in the lineup to not blink when the lights hit his face during the lineup. That's an interesting detail, imo. Anyway, I'll keep watching if you keep creating. Thank you for making this video, and thanks in advance for everything you do from here on out.
I think Verbal was Keyser but if you want to argue the Kobayashi angle, Verbal says "Keyser Soze - or whatever you want to call him - he knows where I am right now. He's got the front burner under your ass to let me go so he can scoop me up ten minutes later." We know they were pressured to release Verbal asap and he is literally scooped up by Kobayashi as soon as he leaves.
nobody has mentioned it yet but the casting on this movie was simply outstanding and their fashion collage made headlines in GQ at that time! such stylish bravado Benicio del Toro Gabriel Byrne Stephen Baldwin Kevin Spacey Chazz Palminteri
I think the reason verbal isn't shown being arrested is because he, as Keyser Soze, orchestrated the whole lineup as the beginning is not narrated by verbal the narration only starts when he is brought in to the customs officer
Wrong 😂. Why was a man who could identify Soze being bought and sold? Plus the hospitalised Hungarian described Soze. All signs point to Verbal is Soze.
With all its twists, turns and deviousness there is definitely a sneaking suspicion that this is one of those scripts which were written backwards from the end to the beginning to fit the facts to suit the climax. The only problem is that on a closer look the narrative lacks integrity and clarity and there are any number of red herrings to muddy up matters. Perversely it could make for a very interesting movie for an undemanding audience. Of course in the hands of a clever director like Singer and with a good cast it becomes quite credible.
You forgot a very big clue. If you got it you would know instantly that Verbal was Kaiser Soze. Remember when they mentioned that calls were coming in from Judges/Congressmen or so? Who on Earth was Verbal connected to that would be pulling those strings?
This movie has a major plot hole.Why would they take the word of a known con man about anything without a ton of evidence? They could have least have kept him on some charge for little a while while they proved or disproved his story.,
By that time it was already arranged that he had immunity. Were not given the details on that but its not unlikely that he may have bribed that in aswell, given his immense wealth and power. As far as proving or disproving, enough of his story matched with the police's timeline, and evidence they had, theories they had, and nobody else survived except for a man in a coma, but they cant hold a person on the whim the coma patient might wake up. The police also never really suspected Vergal, they bought his act. This means his story lined up with their preconceived notions or bias from teh start. You are right, in the real world there is more they could possibly have done to vet the story, but thats the point of the movie, the lie. The story was designed for the cops, it was designed to tell enough of the truth, to match with what they would know, and designed to be framed in jsut the right way to align with what they believed regardless, and let the police, not Vergal, come to the conclusion of who the bad guy really was. He never says it, he doesnt imply it, the police come to that conclusion, and he plays off them. They thought they heared everything they needed, had all the evidence they needed, and some cripple with a chronic illness who was at best small time potatoes ratted them out because a DA took pity on him for his disability. Nobody checks the fridge for the milk if they are told its there, and they remember buying it, and thats all he did.
Kint Is keyser soze because nobody would believe a cripple could be that ruthless and make stuff up. Verbal kint was keyser soze as much younger man. He vanished and came up with the cripple personae. His lawyer pulled all the strings
The greatest trick Verbal Kint ever pulled was to convince the world the devil exists. That's my take. Kints a professional flim flam con artist who can make up a epic heist story just reading adverts off a billboard. He could be mostly a crook maybe a killer who has invented slowly the myth of a super international criminal as one of his many tall tales far exaggerating his own exploits out of proportion.
I _loved_ watching this movie with each of my children, for their 1st time seeing it. It was _so_ hard to not drop hints to them throughout it though.😆😆
Wasn’t the lawyer Kobayashi real because the feds said he was the other lawyer with Edie on an extradition case? Was the name Kobayashi on the coffee mug just a coincidence then?
The hole in the plot for me...how did Verbal get immunity, who gave him that deal & why did they make it happen, & how does that fit with everything else. Doesn't make sense as far as I can tell.
I seem to have seen the same climax in some other movie as well where the interrogation misleaded by story details all made up from the clues in the room itself.......Please help me remember what movie it is.......
Very good video. I never questioned, after the 3rd or 4th watching, that Kaiser Soze was Verbal Kint. Really I still think that, but great food for thought!!!
Doesnt Keyzer speak in that opening scene? Whose voice is it? Can you even tell? I only just finished seeing the movie now and am kicking myself i didnt see it coming.
A wonderful analysis, but there is absolutely no doubt that Verbal Kent is indeed Kaiser Soze. He looks Turkish whereas the Lawyer fellow is distinctly Japanese!! There are just two left the lawyer and VK --it has to be VK. Finally while relating about KS and why he became a mass assassin, VK talks about KS' will power and that will power and defiance VK certainly has , when he feigns all through the film ,as being an idiotic cripple. The COP is definitely a garrulous moron. The way Kevin Spacey transforms from being a cripple to becoming a normal purposeful Man is simply brilliant. The greatest 30 seconds I have ever watched!!
Dubious implication that Verbal was Kaiser Soze and that [h]e walked away "Scott Free." (Kevin Spacey adjustment issues notwithstanding). Hmmmm. . .maybe the poor "cripple" (in wise film Agent "Kujo's" words, not this poster's)was just [ corporate] speak "adaptable." Honor among thieves and all . . .
Verbal Kint never went behind the ropes but stopped just short of them. This is shown in the second viewing during Verbal's story. It's an indication that he was never behind the ropes, because nobody was really there. Verbal Kint was Keyser. His identity in the fax bolsters that claim. According to Jack Baer, Verbal was apprehended at the scene. This was established by a detective at the dock speaking to Jack Baer from Customs that a "cripple from New York" was in custody. Keyser's identity and likeness was verified by the witness in the hospital, completely independent of Verbal's story with Agent Cujan. Joe Blo may have to watch this movie again.
The kid is the killer and didnt die in the car explosion so manifests as the dominant personality at the end when he kills what you think is the last remaining identity (the woman)
You’re all forgetting one important thing, the Hungarian burns victim. He identified Keyser to a FBI artist and that sketch looked alot like Verbal. Case closed everyone.
An important detail is that "Verbal" had immobility in his left hand, and when "Kaiser" lights his cigarette at the opening of the film, he deftly opens and flicks on his gold lighter with his left hand. Keaton sees this as he looks up in shock. That and the fact that "Verbal" walked effortlessly down the stairs, walked un-limpingly towards Keaton, and is now looking down on him with the cold stare of a killer, lets Keaton know he's been had.
The weird thing I thought is the name Kobayashi? Wasn't that the name of the Kobayashi maneuver in Star trek? That Kirk used to cheat the test that Spock used to test recruits for Starfleet. I think it's called the Kobayashi Maru. Or maneuver.
I always wondered if the Hungarian mobster that survived at the end and described Soze, was the same Hungarian that was released when Soze murdered his family back in Turkey.
If taking the first few minutes of the film as actual truth: Can anyone explain if we are hearing verbal / keyser’s “true voice”? It’s obviously a thrown voice of Kevin Spacey on repeat watch but it doesn’t make sense that he’s doing the voice JUST for the audience or just for Keaton since now Keaton knows who he is, so does he actually talk like that in the raspy low voice? It’s an interesting thought that he was doing the Kevin spacey voice all this time but I don’t see it talked about in commentary much or theories about who Keyser is.
When you said he "inserted himself" in things like the line-up scene and was never there, wouldn't that be impossible to tell Cujan considering they'd know if he was in the line-up and investigated? Also are we going to forget the drawing the burnt Hungarian describes confirms that Keyser is Verbal
He also straight up admits that he killed Keaton himself during the interview, but Kujan doesn't hear it. Also pretty much everything happened major that occurred DID happen, that wasn't made up. Only the specific details are stuff that Verbal tweaked to steer Kujan. About 90-95% of the details are corroborated by the police, it's only specifics like names that are different and exactly how many people are involved. There's only 2 real cock-ups in the whole thing, when Kujan asks about Kaiser Soze and Verbal is FURIOUS because he was just going to dance around that, but Kujan forced his hand, so to speak. And when he straight up admits to killing Keaton while Kujan is yelling at him, but realizes what he said and changes it to seeing keaton get shot, and relaxes when he realizes Kujan didn't hear him the first time. However, that only happened because Arkosh Kovosh survived. If not for him, Kujan would've not asked about Kaiser Soze, and Verbal would've played with him the whole time and then largely gotten away scot-free, and if Kujan suspected anything, he'd just think Verbal had hidden details and actually knew where Keaton was hiding or something. i think the reality is that Keaton KNEW Verbal was Kaiser Soze, due to helping him fake his death, which is why he's starring at Verbal while in the holding cell and telling them that he wants nothing to do with any of them and they can all go to hell. Also Kobayashi TWICE looks to Verbal when talking about Soze. So I think most of the details are true, just with minor tweaks to put himself as a bit of an outsider looking in, and edge the story towards Keaton and McManus being the main leaders of the events leading up to the ship. While most of what we see IS true, especially the parts with regard to other characters, while most of the stuff revolving around what Verbal is doing is probably untrue (except for the murder of Saul Berg, who as a cocaine trafficer is one of Soze's enemies, and probably arranged things to get them togther to bump off a few of his enemies and liabilities, but has been forced to go underground ANYWAY because of Kovosh surviving).
@@ZanathKariashi wait I totally missed where he admitted it in the interview which part was that? Also you bring up some great points, but the one thing I'd disagree on is Keaton knowing he was Soze. If you look back at the scene where he figured it out in the beginning on the movie it was more of a reaction like "I should've known," the pieces didn't fall in place for him until he finally saw it. Also I don't think he helped fake Keaton's death it seemed he was unaware that occurred as well, but that could've also been an act and he did set it up.
@@ZanathKariashi Soze went undercover as Kint before. He served time in jail with Keaton to gain his trust. Keaton completely trusted Kint, and vouched for him, which convinced McManus etc to accept Kint as part of the gang. You're clearly forgetting the opening scene of the movie if you seriously claim that "Keaton KNEW Verbal was Kaiser Soze", as this scene completely debunks that.
I always like the deeper meaning of Kobiashi as it's actually from Star Trek and it's the no win scenario and speaks of the character of those taking the test, the wider view could be that Verbal has tested the police but they failed to realise who he was and he escaped what should have been a no win scenario and literally talked his way out of the situation. And there's actually a possibility that this could also be a retelling of The Man Who Was Thursday that Kieser isn't even real.
I really hate that I figured out Verbal from early on, there were a few times when somebody would say the name Kaiser Sozer and it would cut immediately to a shot of verbal and I thought it was too on-the-nose. But I enjoyed the film nevertheless.
The rewatch where you can notice Verbal's eyes looking over the board and glancing up at the bottom of Kujan's cup show this is a masterfully done narrative.
And enjoying rewatching every scene with Kaiser 'observing' his operation from the inside .. gives new depth to Kobiashi also who would know the boss is in the room but never look to him for reaction... the perfect 2nd for the puppet-master. 🧐
@@WhodatIzz this is cinema 😂
Spacey was mesmering
@@slayer_142 Gee, thanks for telling us. We all thought it was a news report.
one of the most often overlooked clues is the scene where the camera goes 360 around all of our heroes and Kobayashi. you see verbal Kent light a cigarette with a gold lighter while a gold watch is visible. then when Keyser soze kills in the beginning of the movie. you notice he has the same watch and the seem lighter it was right there in front of you
There is also a subtle tell when Kujan grabs hin and Verbal blocks him with his 'limp' arm.
And when Kujan mentions "how to spot a killer," "Verbal" looks momentarily concerned.
"all of our heroes" LMAO
@@hellsong23 for real???
@@DefConprime28 Yeah and if I remember correctly (long time since I saw it) he even says he killed him to his face whilst Kurjan is shouting at him.
The shot of Kujan dropping the coffee mug is just absolutely amazing. You kick yourself for not seeing sooner that Verbal was pulling strings all along and in fact, Verbal was Kaiser Soze.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled….?
...or is it that Virgil (furious that Kujan is setting them up) starts gathering information in Kujon , just on case Kujon (is?/works4?) may lead Virgil to identifying "K-S" (if there's such an individual whatsoever) ??? 🤔🤗🤣
Kobayashi is KS
@@TheDusanskyThe watch and the lighter are there at the start. As the director noted everything is there in the first five minutes. It's Verbal
Verbal was Soze, unquestionably. You're wrong about "anyone" being Soze. Completely.
Precisely. Only the actors’ scripts made it that “anyone of them could be Soze” because it was tactic to stir the pot for the final twist. Apparently the reveal of Kint being Soze really pissed off Gabriel Byrne that he and Singer had heated words after the film’s premiere; they quickly made up though
What if he wasn't? What if, its just an alias? What if there is no keyzer soze at all?? What if Kobayashi was Soze? We have watched the whole movie through the eyes of Verbal, we don't know if that is true, but though the first scene with the golden lighter and gold watch and the ending scene relates Verbal as Soze, we are made to believe that. the first scene might be an imagination too, who knows😂
@@saranshsharma4005 no verbal photo was made by the survivor which was faxed
@@ShubhamMishrabro well, he was made to believe that because Verbal was the one to kill all the others, or the Hungarian survivor only saw him killing the rest, but it doesn't give any proof that Verbal is Soze, or any of that sort.
I think there is no Soze at all, it is a myth, a legend in the criminal world to scare the shit out of everyone
@@saranshsharma4005 But Kobayashi told everyone about Soze, So he must be real. And didnt Verbal fake his cripple. So it must surely be Verbal
The story about how Benicio del Torro created the voice of Fenster is the best thing about this movie... Everyone thought he was joking around at first.
Fenster? Means "window" in German. OMG, Bill Gate worked for Keyser Söze?
I don't mean to be that guy, but it's not Kujan's office, it's Sgt. Rabin's office.
This is an important comment actually. They intentionally wrote the story for Kujan to be in someone else's office - precisely so that he would not recognize the names and stories Verbal was telling off that board. While I was watching this very video, I actually thought how important that little detail was.
To quote Walter White... ya got me! Great follow up point too, Tony. - Luke
You had to be that guy, so that I didn't. I appreciate your sacrifice ;)
After he said "his own office" the second time, I had to close the video. If he got wrong something so basic, I don't see the point of listening to anything else.
Being that guy is how this world was built, Never be ashamed to share the truth !
I just finished this movie for the first time 20 minutes ago, and my mine is blown.
Same lol. I went to right to the explanations
Mind*
@@JFresh1520 wow thank you very much this comment was useful.
@@tyresr You’re welcome, buddy.
Jordan23_ his minds blown so he did a mistake
another thing to mention about the kobayashi and verbal scene: when asked "who do you work for?", if you pay attention to his eyes, for a SPLIT second you'll notice he briefly looks at Verbal before returning his gaze to the asker and replying: l work for Kaiser Soze"
The scenes from the story were all fabricated though. Not sure you can take anything from them given they are lies from Verbal.
*One of the greatest films of all time.*
Correction Thee greatest of all time. I’m a movie buff and this is the master piece of modern cinema
Meh
@@derekbidelman2442 Se7en is better
@@Mojj2099 seven is adolescent trash.
Equally good@@Mojj2099
Last week I was in San Pedro, California. I Went to the Friendship park/ Korean friendship bell where the "Redfoot" scenes were filmed and then to the San Pedro Municipal building where the finale/Soze reveal street scene was filmed. It was so cool to visit these 2 spots and stand where 2 of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies was filmed. They still look exactly the same.
Saw this when it first came out. Still love it, even with Spacey's tainted legacy.
Suggestion for us _all,_ from now on we watch Spacey's movies or TV shows, for _only_ for the entertainment they bring us. Nothing to do with his personal life or poor choices at all. Qe can enjoy whatever we want to with no regrets or moral issues. As there are many other actors in these films too. This applies to his already made content only though. As we _really_ don't want 'Hollywood' to make money with him anymore. However, his past 'creative projects' don't make him money, _if_ we already own them. We just watch & enjoy ourselves. Does this sound like an okay plan?? 🤗
we dont even know if he's guilty. there's been no trial.
@@orangewarm1 - Yeah, because he keeps having his _accusers_ "removed" from this planet!
@@Digitalhunny Separate the art from the artist.
Digitalhunny hey what did he do...
Kaiser failed in the end. Someone got his image out. The whole mission was to stop this being exposed. Great film but sadly Kasier fails. He looks cool leaving but now they know him. Wasn't the whole point so they never would.
But he could just disappear and they'll never find him.
Maybe but the whole point was to never be recognised and now he his. Before he could swoosh...he was gone but now.... I didn't really think about until a while after watching the film. I love the ending and the reveal but it is slightly ruined by the fact that ultimately he failed the whole reason why he put himself in such jeopardy. It's cool but flawed.
yeah they would get the fax 5 minutes before he was toast.. its like action movie heropes beng cool because the bad guys cant shoot
Des Derek The informant who was on the boat that the Argentinians were going to trade is dead. Kaiser got rid of him so he can never testify in court. The Hungarian who described what he looked like for the sketch artist died. They may have a sketch artists drawing if Soze (assuming that the video theory is wrong and that is not his henchman Kobayashi) but everybody that could have testified against him in court is dead. There are no witnesses and no loose ends. Sounds like an overrall win to me.
@@fightsports66 100 per cent right !!!
The first time I watched this movie I was on LSD, and you'd have to be high as shit to not think Verbal wasn't Keyser Soze.
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ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ
AMOGUS
What?!
I saw this movie on shrooms a few months back, and man, oh man, did that plot twist blow my reality away 😂
Overthinking bs. Sorry. Verbal Kint is Keyser Sose. Plain and simple.
jeffbranit and like that he's gone.
You sure about that? Mr. Kobayashi could be Keyser Soze.
Brock Lee possibly but that not suggested by the movie. Just watch the difference between how Kobayashi and Verbal/Keyser are portrayed. So logically yes but cinematically no.
It’s not Kujan’s office; it’s that LAPD detective’s office. That’s how Kujan didn’t catch on until the end.
Verbal IS Keyser and "Kobayashi" is just his right hand man/assistant. I think Keyser gave Kujan fake names for all the ppl involved including his assistant but that the story was true. He made a point of saying he's not a rat, and jumped hoops to eliminate someone who ratted HIM out with the whole rouse to hijack the boat. I think "Kobayashi" and Keyser pretended not to know each other to fool the other four. And I think Keyser made a point of killing the rat on the boat himself because he wanted to be sure it was done and that no one would talk about it later.
@cash4chaoshis body was burned
The same man that wrote and directed the last two Mission Impossible movies, which shows Christopher knows how to build tension like a boss. The Usual Suspects is one of my favourite movies from the 90s.
Absolutely, McQuarrie is an incredible writer/filmmaker! - Luke
@@JoBloOriginals Mcquarrie has a cameo at the end of TUS, he is the cop, talking to a couple, just out of focus and he looks right at the camera...laughing.
Also think The way of the gun is a good movie as well
I read somewhere that apparently, Gabriel Byrne, was led to believe that he was Keyser Soze during the filming of 'The Usual Suspects' and was so surprised, seeing the finished movie, during the premier that he got into an argument with either Bryan Singer or Christopher McQuarrie in the parking lot after it.
nope
I heard that all five of the actors that acted as the criminals in the movie were told they were Keyser Soze.
@@aerpxhow please?
Verbal made up the story. So what really happened is a mystery right expect the final showdown ?
Well some things did happen, them setting a cop car on fire actually happened, the shoot out at the parking spot where they stole the brief case actually happened and some other things.
Yeah. The whole movie is a fabricated story told from the POV of Verbal.
I think most of it was true. But kujan kept saying -Tell me every detail. So I think verbal made up the details, so that kujan would believe him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they all where in on it and faked their deaths. Keaton has done it before and the money was at the docks but police never said they had it. The guy who saw him how would he know? The one guy who knew what he looked like was killed on the boat
@@each1teach1academy43 I buy that - after all verbal was the one who knew how to make it so nobody died, he masterminded the whole thing so they could fake their deaths and start a new life
I don't think the comment that Verabal is holding Soze's lighter and watch holds up. Assuming the latter is real, his reputation is clearly fierce enough that no one would ever smoke his cigarettes or use his lighter without asking permission first.
To me, the genius of the movie is that Verbal has to give enough truth to align his story with details that Kujan can independently verify. For example, Verbal probably was in the lineup, because it would be on record. Verbal doesn't necessarily know how quickly they could dig that information up. Given that Kujan has a history with Keaton, he might have even already reviewed reports about the lineup. That would be too risky.
So Verbal can only lie about moments where there are no living witnesses... So the conversation in lockup and encounters with Kobayashi are probably made up. Stop to think that it may not have even been Pollak that pulled off the heist that got them all arrested at the beginning (no one else in the room is alive to confirm his reaction). The heists and interactions with the police would be real.
So Verbal had to use a lot of truth to conceal a few lies that would allow him to slip away.
Well, one thing for certain, the real Verbal Kint is swimming with the fishes, because Soze needed someone weak of the five that he could use as cover, and Kint fit perfectly in what he wanted, and it not a twist, but a double twist, the first twist meant to be predictable, that Keaton was Keyser Soze, only to the rug be pulled under your feet and be reveal that Kint was Keyser Soze.
there was no kint, genius.
@@plasticweapon You cant simply create an identity from zero in the underworld, in the underground dog east dog, and everyone known their reputation from lesser to scary, is more easy take the identity of someone else than create a new one.
The ending from SCARY MOVIE!!
🤣🤣
"anyone seen doofy?!"
No its the ending from the usual suspescts scary movie is just a parody
This movie is also parodied in a Leslie Nielsen movie, Spy Hard I think?
Hey Doofy Blow me, Aig....ht
Shithead??
I seem to have seen the same climax in some other movie as well where the interrogation misleaded by story details all made up from the clues in the room itself.......Please help me remember what movie it is.......
I always found this movie a pain in the ass to watch because the entire point of raiding the boat was to kill the one man who could identify kaiser zoze, but by the end of the movie, the plan goes tits up to such a degree that the entire police department knows what he looks like! And sure, while he might be able to disappear entirely, which is what was implied in the movie, he might as well have done that anyway and not risked the boat assault at all in that case.
Someone please explain to me why I am wrong, because if it weren't for the ending where EVERYONE finds out who he is, I would actually like this movie
The guy on the boat is not only going to tell what he looks like. He was going to turn informant. He could be put on a witness stand to testify in court. The police could get him to confirm all kinds of crimes Soze had commited had others commit. He could have led law enforcement to all kinds of evidence but now he can't because Soze silenced him.
@@fightsports66 thank you. I'll go back and try and enjoy it now :)
also it’s important to understand that, according to Keiser’s plan, nobody was supposed to survive the boat. He didn’t know that the Hungarian dude had survived, (which he got very lucky too), and didn’t know about the sketch, which something that could’ve fucked him over.
@@gustave7619 which is exactly my point. the whole job was a massive cock up!
garblehose yeah but thats what also the point just like a huge risk taken
You should have ended that "he's already gone" with the clip of Kevin Spacey kissing his fingertips
I wish I could forget this film and watch it again
The only question I had after watching this movie was: when was Keyzer committing his profitable crimes if he had to spend so much time hunting just one witness? And considering that after executing his entire overcomplicated plan he has left another witness and lighted up, and the police now has his photo and fingerprints, this looks like a really shoddy job.
😂 this is cinema...
My guess is they'll never hear from him again
@@DblTap317 well, until he walks under a camera in a park or trade center.
@@InconspicuousChap They didn't have all that back then
My personal theory...
Keyser Soze is, as was mentioned in the film, a criminal world boogeyman. Who he is played up to be in the film is all conjecture, 3rd+ hand accounts, and unverified claims of working for him.
I do believe that someone in the world of this film once fit the description of Soze.
But, as with all myths & legends, they are far more useful as a compelling story than as a definitive fact.
I would argue that Kint & Kobayashi are really just exceptionally good con men that convinced everyone that the Devil was real, and they were able to do so because everyone else was willing to believe it.
This also applies to the Hungarian mobster in the hospital.
There is no Keyser Soze. At least not a person as professed to in the movie.
Why does no one ever talk about the piss?
At the beginning of the movie the Kaiser character takes a piss on the boat, then later in the movie Kint says he has a problem where his piss is thick and like mucus. (or something like that). Further confirming Kint is Soze. 🕵🏻♂️
Not really to be honest, clutching at straws big time
@@gabeharrison5178 I don't get these people who try to make something out of the fake piss and link it back to that quote.
Right. The pee didn't seem super dilute and liquidy. But that was one of those things ppl realize when they watch the movie a 2nd time.
No, I think that was just him messing with kujan. He was asking for a drink interrupting him
YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT, saw it in the first watching and it was clear for me that verbal was soze
This is a movie where I can separate the art from the artists (Spacey and Singer) due to how well the film is made. The acting is insanely good, Singer’s direction is tight & McQuarrie’s script is loaded with unique turns and the final twist is his best
@@Izaan2810 2 of the accusers have been killed since coming out 😂 seems a death sentence to speak out on spacey
You must not forget the Editor too
its not about seprating art from the artist.... some people simply do not want to put money in the pockets of bad people.. im sure they all acknowledged that these are talented individuals
Spacey in '95 was boss.
Who cares we got A president who sniffs hair, a FBI that's corrupt and Zelinsky , a sociopath fascist coke head
I don’t view it as a complete fabrication, he just changed up the names and places. So many contrarian film students are making none sense videos claiming it’s all false or that Soze isn’t real. I believe the answer is straight, Verbal was Soze, the lighter was the key clue.
if you havent seen this movie................fix it.
Never heard of it
Tnis, this movie was the first time I saw a twist so cool and crazy that my child brain almost exploded!
0:28 : notice that in this very early scene, it looks like there's a light coming from INSIDE Verbal, and in a few scenes later in the movie, characters look dazzled by Soze's presence. It's like the truth was there from the beginning
Just watched it for the first time and to be honest I expected Kint to be Sosye the entire time, I just wasn’t sure how it all worked out. It was a great reveal at the end, even if I’m a bit confused about why he had to go through such an investigation if he was already given immunity.
Same, there were a few times when somebody would say the name Sosye and it would cut immediately to a shot of Kint, and I thought it was too on-the-nose. The way Kint would talk about Sosye reminded of the bad guy from Fast and Furious 4, too haha. The villain who was right under your nose. But I enjoyed the film nevertheless.
I remember watching this for the first and then having to re start the movie again just to look at from a completely different view.
Mate what an amazing explanation, I went into this film knowing there was a twist and I still was shocked by the reveal
That wasn’t Kujons office that Kint sat in. So clearly he could cherry pick ideas from the board without Kujon knowing. It wasn’t his office and the guy it belonged to was never in the office while Kint was cherry picking. Very clear, and we’ll done. Missed that one
One of the best plots. Ever.
it was abit obvious
I don't care what they say about Spacey. He's a great actor.
I've only watched the movie once. I enjoyed it and certainly don't need to overthink it - it was a good show.
Spacey is the master of twist endings, with this movie and se7en as examples
Yeah, you should watch the movie the life of david gale, there is a plot twist as well with spacey.
@@issi529 nicee, yeah I did watch that movie on Netflix not too long ago. Kinda messed up that Netflix kept that movie where he is accused of raping and killing someone, after all the allegations made against him and being fired from house of cards. Makes you wonder
I just watched this for the first time last night. Amazing
I just watched it a couple hours ago, 25 years after. It is really a great plot twist, and nobody spoiled me the finale, like the sixth sense or the others. I tried to watch this some years ago but the beginning of the movie is slow, dense and boring and I gave up, I´m glad I finally made it
@@makaiyotube The beginning is not slow and boring at all!
The overall pacing is quite ideal!
THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS is for example much slower and boring!
Hi! I love what you've done here, and I see the point in making a video (since you are a content creator and a clear fan of the film). I love your videos and it makes me consider things I haven't before. There is a 'but' here. He has the gold watch and lighter at the end, but he doesn't hand them to "Kobayashi". He pockets them and gets into the car. Also, "Verbal" is the only one in the lineup to not blink when the lights hit his face during the lineup. That's an interesting detail, imo. Anyway, I'll keep watching if you keep creating. Thank you for making this video, and thanks in advance for everything you do from here on out.
I think Verbal was Keyser but if you want to argue the Kobayashi angle, Verbal says "Keyser Soze - or whatever you want to call him - he knows where I am right now. He's got the front burner under your ass to let me go so he can scoop me up ten minutes later."
We know they were pressured to release Verbal asap and he is literally scooped up by Kobayashi as soon as he leaves.
nobody has mentioned it yet but the casting on this movie was simply outstanding and their fashion collage made headlines in GQ at that time! such stylish bravado
Benicio del Toro
Gabriel Byrne
Stephen Baldwin
Kevin Spacey
Chazz Palminteri
I think the reason verbal isn't shown being arrested is because he, as Keyser Soze, orchestrated the whole lineup as the beginning is not narrated by verbal the narration only starts when he is brought in to the customs officer
Yes... He was the narrator.
also he got immunity out of blue.
One of the greatest twists in movie history.
Everyone is adamant Verbal is Soze. But there was never a Keyser Soze, only Roger "Verbal" Kint. That was "the devil's" greatest trick.
Wrong 😂. Why was a man who could identify Soze being bought and sold? Plus the hospitalised Hungarian described Soze. All signs point to Verbal is Soze.
@@RottenDoctorGonzo Verbal made you believed.
This ending was almost as good as the movies. Great vid
The acting in this is spectecular
With all its twists, turns and deviousness there is definitely a sneaking suspicion that this is one of those scripts which were written backwards from the end to the beginning to fit the facts to suit the climax. The only problem is that on a closer look the narrative lacks integrity and clarity and there are any number of red herrings to muddy up matters. Perversely it could make for a very interesting movie for an undemanding audience. Of course in the hands of a clever director like Singer and with a good cast it becomes quite credible.
It is supposed to be like that. Verbal made up the story just enough to fool the cops and escape. It is not supposed to be a perfect story.
one of the best film analysis vids i’ve seen in a while
You forgot a very big clue. If you got it you would know instantly that Verbal was Kaiser Soze.
Remember when they mentioned that calls were coming in from Judges/Congressmen or so?
Who on Earth was Verbal connected to that would be pulling those strings?
This movie has a major plot hole.Why would they take the word of a known con man about anything without a ton of evidence? They could have least have kept him on some charge for little a while while they proved or disproved his story.,
By that time it was already arranged that he had immunity. Were not given the details on that but its not unlikely that he may have bribed that in aswell, given his immense wealth and power. As far as proving or disproving, enough of his story matched with the police's timeline, and evidence they had, theories they had, and nobody else survived except for a man in a coma, but they cant hold a person on the whim the coma patient might wake up. The police also never really suspected Vergal, they bought his act. This means his story lined up with their preconceived notions or bias from teh start.
You are right, in the real world there is more they could possibly have done to vet the story, but thats the point of the movie, the lie. The story was designed for the cops, it was designed to tell enough of the truth, to match with what they would know, and designed to be framed in jsut the right way to align with what they believed regardless, and let the police, not Vergal, come to the conclusion of who the bad guy really was. He never says it, he doesnt imply it, the police come to that conclusion, and he plays off them. They thought they heared everything they needed, had all the evidence they needed, and some cripple with a chronic illness who was at best small time potatoes ratted them out because a DA took pity on him for his disability. Nobody checks the fridge for the milk if they are told its there, and they remember buying it, and thats all he did.
Kint Is keyser soze because nobody would believe a cripple could be that ruthless and make stuff up. Verbal kint was keyser soze as much younger man. He vanished and came up with the cripple personae. His lawyer pulled all the strings
Excellent plus ‘. Interesting, informative and entertaining !!! 👍👍👍
The greatest trick Verbal Kint ever pulled was to convince the world the devil exists.
That's my take. Kints a professional flim flam con artist who can make up a epic heist story just reading adverts off a billboard. He could be mostly a crook maybe a killer who has invented slowly the myth of a super international criminal as one of his many tall tales far exaggerating his own exploits out of proportion.
here's a subtle clue, Verbal was never shown being interrogated, the other four men were
One of the top movies that I absolutely love
I _loved_ watching this movie with each of my children, for their 1st time seeing it. It was _so_ hard to not drop hints to them throughout it though.😆😆
Wasn’t the lawyer Kobayashi real because the feds said he was the other lawyer with Edie on an extradition case? Was the name Kobayashi on the coffee mug just a coincidence then?
Best analysis I've heard yet!!
'A lie is most convincingly hidden between two truths.' -Deep Throat, X-Files
Spacey stole the show and deserved the academy award. And my understanding he is not convicted of any crime. He will be back in a Couple of years.
The witnesses all died. All very Soze 😂
The hole in the plot for me...how did Verbal get immunity, who gave him that deal & why did they make it happen, & how does that fit with everything else. Doesn't make sense as far as I can tell.
You're damn right. It's like a sleight of hand film. Extra smart.
Who killed fenster too?
The lawyer Kobayashi character presumably?
@@mikespearwood3914 either, verbal is kaiser and was pulling the strings or kobayashi is the real kaiser since he's old than kint (maybe his son)
The 2021 remake is insane. Everything is exactly the same, except Keyser Soze is a woman.
I had no idea there was a remake! How was it???
They wanna destroy all the lagacies we need to Ban Remakes
I seem to have seen the same climax in some other movie as well where the interrogation misleaded by story details all made up from the clues in the room itself.......Please help me remember what movie it is.......
The story Verbal Kint narrates is the true and accurate account however all the names he used were from the office he was in..........
I don't know why people over-think it. Classic film, great twist, Verbal is Soze, he got away
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince people that he doesn't exist so that he can live amongst us
NOW I UNDERSTAND
His lighter is the same too - Kasier Soze - at the beginning when he kills Keaton, and at the end when he (Spacey) lights his cig.
Very good video. I never questioned, after the 3rd or 4th watching, that Kaiser Soze was Verbal Kint. Really I still think that, but great food for thought!!!
Doesnt Keyzer speak in that opening scene? Whose voice is it? Can you even tell?
I only just finished seeing the movie now and am kicking myself i didnt see it coming.
A wonderful analysis, but there is absolutely no doubt that Verbal Kent is indeed Kaiser Soze. He looks Turkish whereas the Lawyer fellow is distinctly Japanese!! There are just two left the lawyer and VK --it has to be VK. Finally while relating about KS and why he became a mass assassin, VK talks about KS' will power and that will power and defiance VK certainly has , when he feigns all through the film ,as being an idiotic cripple. The COP is definitely a garrulous moron. The way Kevin Spacey transforms from being a cripple to becoming a normal purposeful Man is simply brilliant. The greatest 30 seconds I have ever watched!!
Brilliant analysis!
8:10-8:25 shows the obvious to Dean. Verbal is Kaiser and there's no doubt. One of the best can't miss movies ever.
Dubious implication that Verbal was Kaiser Soze and that [h]e walked away "Scott Free." (Kevin Spacey adjustment issues notwithstanding). Hmmmm. . .maybe the poor "cripple" (in wise film Agent "Kujo's" words, not this poster's)was just [ corporate] speak "adaptable." Honor among thieves and all . . .
To this day...
My favourite movie.... Ever.
Your second fact is new to me!! Thanks!! Top five
I probally completly missed something but what did keyser soze get out of the heist?
He killed that witness that knew what he looked like right?
*Kaiser Soze is a peanut farmer compared to me.*
that "orca fat" with the camera moving to the *let's say "plus size"* Black woman always cracks me up
Verbal Kint never went behind the ropes but stopped just short of them. This is shown in the second viewing during Verbal's story. It's an indication that he was never behind the ropes, because nobody was really there.
Verbal Kint was Keyser. His identity in the fax bolsters that claim. According to Jack Baer, Verbal was apprehended at the scene. This was established by a detective at the dock speaking to Jack Baer from Customs that a "cripple from New York" was in custody. Keyser's identity and likeness was verified by the witness in the hospital, completely independent of Verbal's story with Agent Cujan.
Joe Blo may have to watch this movie again.
Jack Baer had actually heard about the infamous Soze before, independent of any events in the film!
Could you try and explain the ending of Identity (2003)?
The kid is the killer and didnt die in the car explosion so manifests as the dominant personality at the end when he kills what you think is the last remaining identity (the woman)
I'll add it to the list, thanks! - Luke
JoBlo Videos You’re welcome
You’re all forgetting one important thing, the Hungarian burns victim. He identified Keyser to a FBI artist and that sketch looked alot like Verbal. Case closed everyone.
_LOVED_ your last line in this vid. guys. Just..... perfection💋
The twist broke my leg 😂
so where did Kint get the hat and trenchcoat to wear before shooting keaton?
Only Virbal is left handed with a gold lighter .Surprised no one mentioned.
An important detail is that "Verbal" had immobility in his left hand, and when "Kaiser" lights his cigarette at the opening of the film, he deftly opens and flicks on his gold lighter with his left hand. Keaton sees this as he looks up in shock. That and the fact that "Verbal" walked effortlessly down the stairs, walked un-limpingly towards Keaton, and is now looking down on him with the cold stare of a killer, lets Keaton know he's been had.
I took it as Verbal was Kaiser Soze for this particular situation but not the mythical figure he was referring to who killed his own family.
Chazz and Byrne not being nominated for best actors is a freaking shame.
It's probably cos of Benicio del Toro. His scene-stealing bravado eclipsed other actor's stellar perfromance
I only know that I thought it was strange that the man with the Japanese name "Kobayashi" was portrayed by a British actor.
what the hell is the music in the background ?
What song starts playing at 4 mins?
The weird thing I thought is the name Kobayashi?
Wasn't that the name of the Kobayashi maneuver in Star trek?
That Kirk used to cheat the test that Spock used to test recruits for Starfleet.
I think it's called the Kobayashi Maru.
Or maneuver.
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@@harryr5697 no
I always wondered if the Hungarian mobster that survived at the end and described Soze, was the same Hungarian that was released when Soze murdered his family back in Turkey.
MORE THAN 20 YEARS LATER...
Who is Kizer Soze?
*"A surprise; but a welcome one, to be sure."*
If taking the first few minutes of the film as actual truth: Can anyone explain if we are hearing verbal / keyser’s “true voice”? It’s obviously a thrown voice of Kevin Spacey on repeat watch but it doesn’t make sense that he’s doing the voice JUST for the audience or just for Keaton since now Keaton knows who he is, so does he actually talk like that in the raspy low voice? It’s an interesting thought that he was doing the Kevin spacey voice all this time but I don’t see it talked about in commentary much or theories about who Keyser is.
When you said he "inserted himself" in things like the line-up scene and was never there, wouldn't that be impossible to tell Cujan considering they'd know if he was in the line-up and investigated?
Also are we going to forget the drawing the burnt Hungarian describes confirms that Keyser is Verbal
He also straight up admits that he killed Keaton himself during the interview, but Kujan doesn't hear it.
Also pretty much everything happened major that occurred DID happen, that wasn't made up. Only the specific details are stuff that Verbal tweaked to steer Kujan. About 90-95% of the details are corroborated by the police, it's only specifics like names that are different and exactly how many people are involved.
There's only 2 real cock-ups in the whole thing, when Kujan asks about Kaiser Soze and Verbal is FURIOUS because he was just going to dance around that, but Kujan forced his hand, so to speak. And when he straight up admits to killing Keaton while Kujan is yelling at him, but realizes what he said and changes it to seeing keaton get shot, and relaxes when he realizes Kujan didn't hear him the first time.
However, that only happened because Arkosh Kovosh survived. If not for him, Kujan would've not asked about Kaiser Soze, and Verbal would've played with him the whole time and then largely gotten away scot-free, and if Kujan suspected anything, he'd just think Verbal had hidden details and actually knew where Keaton was hiding or something.
i think the reality is that Keaton KNEW Verbal was Kaiser Soze, due to helping him fake his death, which is why he's starring at Verbal while in the holding cell and telling them that he wants nothing to do with any of them and they can all go to hell. Also Kobayashi TWICE looks to Verbal when talking about Soze.
So I think most of the details are true, just with minor tweaks to put himself as a bit of an outsider looking in, and edge the story towards Keaton and McManus being the main leaders of the events leading up to the ship. While most of what we see IS true, especially the parts with regard to other characters, while most of the stuff revolving around what Verbal is doing is probably untrue (except for the murder of Saul Berg, who as a cocaine trafficer is one of Soze's enemies, and probably arranged things to get them togther to bump off a few of his enemies and liabilities, but has been forced to go underground ANYWAY because of Kovosh surviving).
@@ZanathKariashi wait I totally missed where he admitted it in the interview which part was that? Also you bring up some great points, but the one thing I'd disagree on is Keaton knowing he was Soze. If you look back at the scene where he figured it out in the beginning on the movie it was more of a reaction like "I should've known," the pieces didn't fall in place for him until he finally saw it. Also I don't think he helped fake Keaton's death it seemed he was unaware that occurred as well, but that could've also been an act and he did set it up.
@@ZanathKariashi Soze went undercover as Kint before. He served time in jail with Keaton to gain his trust. Keaton completely trusted Kint, and vouched for him, which convinced McManus etc to accept Kint as part of the gang.
You're clearly forgetting the opening scene of the movie if you seriously claim that "Keaton KNEW Verbal was Kaiser Soze", as this scene completely debunks that.
@@joshuaherman3278 He accidentally blurts it out....Kujan is too busy yelling to hear what he said.
I always like the deeper meaning of Kobiashi as it's actually from Star Trek and it's the no win scenario and speaks of the character of those taking the test, the wider view could be that Verbal has tested the police but they failed to realise who he was and he escaped what should have been a no win scenario and literally talked his way out of the situation. And there's actually a possibility that this could also be a retelling of The Man Who Was Thursday that Kieser isn't even real.
I really hate that I figured out Verbal from early on, there were a few times when somebody would say the name Kaiser Sozer and it would cut immediately to a shot of verbal and I thought it was too on-the-nose. But I enjoyed the film nevertheless.
Verbal is Keyser, period. The watch and the lighter our final closure.
Truly an exceptional plot twist. Loved this movie