April 16, 2019....30 will attempt to become apprentice Ironworkers, just 12 will make it. Here is a video of that day. 12 careers were begun, most of the others will return and try again.
As a journeyman ironworker everything makes sense except for the rebar relay race. If you want apprentices running around twisting ankles I guess that’s good for your local. I understand it but wtf.
As a Ironworker from local 416 we run alot because sometimes we get bad bids on jobs and we have to put an X amount of weight in each shift. If we do not reach these goals the company looses its ass off.
@@adminadmin9997 you are the ones who are giving away all the conditions that past brothers have worked so hard to get running on a Rebar mat with weight on your shoulder is stupid if you have to run because of a "bad bid" sounds to me like you need a competent estimator how much will the company lose on comp cases for breaking 1 too many backs?
@@roscoep.coltraine6344 since I been in i been told. Its tradition to challenge each other and push your brother to see who can get the most weight in at the end of the day. Bids are bids, you have 1 company that says they can do the job $X amount then another company says they can do it for even cheaper then price for the job it just keeps going down and down in price to the point it fucked the workers, it benifits the contractor and in a sense if we want a job we gotta hustle. They say local 416 members get paid a high wage for it's hard working heavy hitters. We protect are high wage by getting in a shit load of weight. You look at a Non Union iron worker vs a union iron worker the union man runs faster, grabs more bar is more skilled in building wall elements, core elements, stressing cable etc. Its fucked up I know how we run and carry alot of weight. It is critical we have an edge on the non union rod busters. So are hustle is what we got. I had my 1st surgery as a 1st period apprentice. Nothing changed when I came back everyone still running and packing a shit load of bar on there shoulder. I would like to see the iron workers union unite and fight back for are conditions we did in fact give up. It's a disgrace I know not proud of it.
Did time with a couple of these meat sticks at the Macy's building in downtown Seattle and the 2nd and union job...guys seemed cool but smelled like beer every morning lol
How do you pick your specialty within the Ironworkers? I obtained welding certs in college and was recently accepted into a Ironworkers local as an apprentice. I was hoping I could land a job welding, I just don’t know how it works. I know I need to learn all areas of the trade, but would like to focus on the structural welding portion, since that’s what I went to college for.
You technically will be welding regardless. It's not like the pipe trades, where welders just weld pipe, and does not fit (which you can market yourself as just that, but most welders learn how to fit for job security).
If your a certified welder,you'll get work as a welder! Call the nearest local,tell them your a certified welder,they may put you to work on a permit right away,if you have the proper certifications and they need welders.
@@OVERCAPITALIZE that can also depend on how big the company is sometimes. I've been with smaller outfits where you do everything. Welding, decking, bolt up, raising gang etc. And now the company I'm with that's pretty big they have their own groups and foremans for each group. A decking crew, a welding crew, bolt up crew etc. If anyone needs help then they borrow someone from another crew for a couple days if that or maybe trade out a guy here or there. But generally the welders out of anyone stay burning that wire.
They don’t want to put you thru schooling, give you a top notch pay, benefits, pension, and invest in you if they don’t think you’re going to be a worker that’s going to stay in the trade
Some locals east coast locals especially think they're on Some kind of higher spectrum than the rest of us. I know for sure here in Denver we got one of the best training programs and as long as you aren't a druggy, have a high school diploma, and can show up to work then you will have a job.
@@TheOfficialMelendez Thank you brother! Been cutting down and climbing trees past 3 years but Hope to be a structural Iron worker soon, been calling up my local 416 in newburg about an hour north of NYC, but the offices are still closed from covid.
@@TheOfficialMelendez just wanted to say thanks again, I have my apprenticeship interview in 2 weeks, been practicing these knots and climbing up I beams at the mall haha
@@mikehuntsmells4309 i forget. On my aprenticeship test we didn't do a fucking thing with knots. Got it tho. I'm now a member of local 417 in newburg NY.
@@jjtmmjjmm2113 i been a shipfitter for 4-5 yrs now, just that iron workers always caught my attention, definitely need a fam member to get you in. 💪🏼🇺🇸⚒
Devon Jackson for starters it’s not for everyone. it’s physically and mentally tough especially Rods 💪 gotta be prepared everyday for anything that could happen and be aware of what’s going on around you. Learn and pay attention to the veterans that’s been doing it for years and have a great attitude!! 👍 something that I would of done differently is leave fear at home my first couple of days but you get used to it!! 😬🤟
@@MrScrappy562 Okay cool cool, I dig that. How was your energy after work? Because I have to go to the gym, and I do t want my energy diminished after work. I mean I'm still young, 20. But bodybuilding is the career.
12 positions open. Sons of ironworkers take up at least 8, 10 spots regardless of equal oppertunity. Maybe 1 connected to a politician, and a minority.
@@tomlund4951 Who's crying? I'm ibew. Family first. Hundreds apply as I assume you know. Sons, daughters, relatives get in. I think you took my comment the wrong way. Off the street applicants are accepted of course but much harder for them.
Fuck.. I’ve been doing rebar in bc for three and a half years . I worked until I was 7 months pregnant , gave birth, and came back 2 months post partum. I make more money than the journeymen that I work with who have 7-12 years on me.13 dollars in raises With 3 years work experience . I work harder than most of the guys I’ve worked with and I owe that to some of the best ironworkers in the trade guiding me in the right direction. I’ve cried tears of pain while being conditioned to the trade and I’ve cried tears of frustration for being too hard on myself for not being able to understand certain concepts right off the bat.. but never once did I give up.. there were days where I walked off crying and feeling like a failure for leaving .. to come back the next day ready to give it another shot .. and because I’m in a mans trade , to prove myself I need to tie faster, pack heavy, work faster, and learned how to grow a backbone and stand up for myself . I came into Rebar not even knowing what the trade was , I was kind of a lost little girl.. I’ve definitely transformed and I wasn’t given no free ride . I love rebar. For the first time ever I finally feel like I fit in . And no I’m not a drug addict and I don’t drink. They literally call me Kim boy cause they say I’m one of the boys. I overhear some of the most fucked up guy talk and it doesn’t offend me .. Fuck .. I think I might be more crude than a lot of the guys .. maybe it surprises them cause I’m 120 pounds soaking wet and a pretty face .. lmao .. I get what your saying and I’m not one of “those girls” but there are a handful of good women rodbusters.. don’t shoot us all down .
hate to say it, biologically speaking, most of the women in trades rely on men to help them, even a physically strong women is not as able as a avg male worker. Im sure the women in these locals work hard, and are good people and workers but those are the facts. Any job you go to regardless if its physical labor they give the women lighter jobs, because they know the women for the most part are not able. But like all physical work the men and women bodies adapt. The thing is they have seperate standards, for women during the physical tranning part, after people put in applications. I just did physical test for iron worker union in nyc, two weeks ago. We had 300 people for applications, only 100 make it through to interviews, and their are only 25 spots. They had use doing, drills running around cones, with 60 pound bags, and 200 pound wheel barrows, push ups, situps, ladder climbing. It was crazy guys yelling and screaming, while some old timer with 40 years in the unions saying this a great life changing job, as guys are sturggling to do their last push ups. We had people struggling alot on the wheel, barrow they made you bring up and down a ramp and around cones, and timed ya. The best 100 scores moved on, be it man or women. There was one women killing it, and was in the top 50 so, their are some able and willing women.
@@jjcooks7401 only been doing it for 20 years numbnuts, shitty thing is you dont have to be tough anymore. seems like being a minority or a really confused women is more important than working hard. after 20 years my pension is 800$ a month, woo hoo
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This is nice but I hate when companies are like no experience necessary but end up evaluating off experience
30 people applied and 12 got in? Jesus I like those odds. In my area 150 applied and only 7-8 are getting hired.
As a journeyman ironworker everything makes sense except for the rebar relay race. If you want apprentices running around twisting ankles I guess that’s good for your local. I understand it but wtf.
As a Ironworker from local 416 we run alot because sometimes we get bad bids on jobs and we have to put an X amount of weight in each shift. If we do not reach these goals the company looses its ass off.
@@adminadmin9997 you are the ones who are giving away all the conditions that past brothers have worked so hard to get running on a Rebar mat with weight on your shoulder is stupid if you have to run because of a "bad bid" sounds to me like you need a competent estimator how much will the company lose on comp cases for breaking 1 too many backs?
@@roscoep.coltraine6344 since I been in i been told. Its tradition to challenge each other and push your brother to see who can get the most weight in at the end of the day. Bids are bids, you have 1 company that says they can do the job $X amount then another company says they can do it for even cheaper then price for the job it just keeps going down and down in price to the point it fucked the workers, it benifits the contractor and in a sense if we want a job we gotta hustle. They say local 416 members get paid a high wage for it's hard working heavy hitters. We protect are high wage by getting in a shit load of weight. You look at a Non Union iron worker vs a union iron worker the union man runs faster, grabs more bar is more skilled in building wall elements, core elements, stressing cable etc. Its fucked up I know how we run and carry alot of weight. It is critical we have an edge on the non union rod busters. So are hustle is what we got. I had my 1st surgery as a 1st period apprentice. Nothing changed when I came back everyone still running and packing a shit load of bar on there shoulder. I would like to see the iron workers union unite and fight back for are conditions we did in fact give up. It's a disgrace I know not proud of it.
@@adminadmin9997 things are tough all over brother stay safe buddy.
😮 women usher men into the world. Via their blood sweat and tears of Joy. Blue and Ivory forever.
No cap looks like a lot of rookies with them ties js but we all gotta start somewhere props to theses guys
Well that’s because they are 😂😂 not even rookie level yet.
NO THANKS, I'LL WATCH from the GROUND
Did time with a couple of these meat sticks at the Macy's building in downtown Seattle and the 2nd and union job...guys seemed cool but smelled like beer every morning lol
Best desicion I made t.g local 397 present💪🔥☝🙏
is this steady work? like you always working your 40 hours or more?
How do you pick your specialty within the Ironworkers? I obtained welding certs in college and was recently accepted into a Ironworkers local as an apprentice. I was hoping I could land a job welding, I just don’t know how it works. I know I need to learn all areas of the trade, but would like to focus on the structural welding portion, since that’s what I went to college for.
You technically will be welding regardless. It's not like the pipe trades, where welders just weld pipe, and does not fit (which you can market yourself as just that, but most welders learn how to fit for job security).
If your a certified welder,you'll get work as a welder! Call the nearest local,tell them your a certified welder,they may put you to work on a permit right away,if you have the proper certifications and they need welders.
@@OVERCAPITALIZE that can also depend on how big the company is sometimes. I've been with smaller outfits where you do everything. Welding, decking, bolt up, raising gang etc. And now the company I'm with that's pretty big they have their own groups and foremans for each group. A decking crew, a welding crew, bolt up crew etc. If anyone needs help then they borrow someone from another crew for a couple days if that or maybe trade out a guy here or there. But generally the welders out of anyone stay burning that wire.
👍👍👍👍👍
Running?? Thats not safe for somebody who they dont know shit bout rods.. 🤦🏻♂️
what is the best study material for your initial test?
A beater, a bull pin, and hard head and strong back
@@nitrojunkie9027100%
Can you smoke weed after your ua?
turning in my application for pre apprenticeship here tomorrow
How did that turn out
@@YH8xDeciple haven’t heard back, heading in next day I have off to turn it in again
How’d it go big boss
@@thetaco4364 got it boss🤘 literally had a heart attack at 25 after and I’m sitting in the ER rn but they don’t needa know that lol
@@YH8xDeciple got it🤘
Does anybody know why some locals are hard to get into like this while others take anybody walking in and signing up?
They don’t want to put you thru schooling, give you a top notch pay, benefits, pension, and invest in you if they don’t think you’re going to be a worker that’s going to stay in the trade
Some locals east coast locals especially think they're on Some kind of higher spectrum than the rest of us. I know for sure here in Denver we got one of the best training programs and as long as you aren't a druggy, have a high school diploma, and can show up to work then you will have a job.
They shouldn’t be running, never mind with a 95 LB bar. Other than that, awesome.
1:40 anyone know what the 5th knot is??
@@TheOfficialMelendez Thank you brother! Been cutting down and climbing trees past 3 years but Hope to be a structural Iron worker soon, been calling up my local 416 in newburg about an hour north of NYC, but the offices are still closed from covid.
@@TheOfficialMelendez just wanted to say thanks again, I have my apprenticeship interview in 2 weeks, been practicing these knots and climbing up I beams at the mall haha
What is the 5th knot? It’s not on here anymore
@@connorlowis4774 what was it?
@@mikehuntsmells4309 i forget. On my aprenticeship test we didn't do a fucking thing with knots. Got it tho. I'm now a member of local 417 in newburg NY.
I been trying to get in for 2 yrs local 229 😢
Learn welding on the side to make you a more attractive candidate, don’t give up!
Get into something else this looks like slave work
@@jjtmmjjmm2113 i been a shipfitter for 4-5 yrs now, just that iron workers always caught my attention, definitely need a fam member to get you in. 💪🏼🇺🇸⚒
@@Qntn_1003 certainly helps or be the top ten on the entrance exam
Future IW here!!
Did you get in?
Devon Jackson hell yeah!! 💪🤟 #L14
MrScrappy562 How is it? What's it like? Anything you wish you prepared for etc; I wanna know!
Devon Jackson for starters it’s not for everyone. it’s physically and mentally tough especially Rods 💪 gotta be prepared everyday for anything that could happen and be aware of what’s going on around you. Learn and pay attention to the veterans that’s been doing it for years and have a great attitude!! 👍 something that I would of done differently is leave fear at home my first couple of days but you get used to it!! 😬🤟
@@MrScrappy562 Okay cool cool, I dig that. How was your energy after work? Because I have to go to the gym, and I do t want my energy diminished after work. I mean I'm still young, 20. But bodybuilding is the career.
12 positions open. Sons of ironworkers take up at least 8, 10 spots regardless of equal oppertunity. Maybe 1 connected to a politician, and a minority.
Stop crying… excuses do not work here!
@@tomlund4951 Who's crying? I'm ibew. Family first. Hundreds apply as I assume you know. Sons, daughters, relatives get in. I think you took my comment the wrong way. Off the street applicants are accepted of course but much harder for them.
they’ll take every minority that applies
@@tomlund4951 I thought everyone liked a good statistic breakdown lol
@@divinehealth9686 Clueless! Table for one!
Fuck that's a lot of hoops to jump through. You're probably better off just working non union, getting your ticket, and joining the union.
Body wrecked in 5 years...
Me: Buzzing thru the written test then. WHO'S THE DUMMY THAT PUT MATH IN THIS TEST????
Running on a job site 😂 yah sounds union
What is with ya'll letting your candidates run with rebar on their shoulder. Not safe on a job, and they will blow their back out in no time flat.
What’s the point when you let all these chicks in and they get a free ride just to turn out and not be able to hold a job.
because they have to act like the diversity scam works.
There is one women in this video you sad little man
Pete Favelle go out on a job douce waffle
Fuck.. I’ve been doing rebar in bc for three and a half years . I worked until I was 7 months pregnant , gave birth, and came back 2 months post partum. I make more money than the journeymen that I work with who have 7-12 years on me.13 dollars in raises With 3 years work experience . I work harder than most of the guys I’ve worked with and I owe that to some of the best ironworkers in the trade guiding me in the right direction. I’ve cried tears of pain while being conditioned to the trade and I’ve cried tears of frustration for being too hard on myself for not being able to understand certain concepts right off the bat.. but never once did I give up.. there were days where I walked off crying and feeling like a failure for leaving .. to come back the next day ready to give it another shot .. and because I’m in a mans trade , to prove myself I need to tie faster, pack heavy, work faster, and learned how to grow a backbone and stand up for myself . I came into Rebar not even knowing what the trade was , I was kind of a lost little girl.. I’ve definitely transformed and I wasn’t given no free ride . I love rebar. For the first time ever I finally feel like I fit in . And no I’m not a drug addict and I don’t drink. They literally call me Kim boy cause they say I’m one of the boys. I overhear some of the most fucked up guy talk and it doesn’t offend me .. Fuck .. I think I might be more crude than a lot of the guys .. maybe it surprises them cause I’m 120 pounds soaking wet and a pretty face .. lmao .. I get what your saying and I’m not one of “those girls” but there are a handful of good women rodbusters.. don’t shoot us all down .
hate to say it, biologically speaking, most of the women in trades rely on men to help them, even a physically strong women is not as able as a avg male worker. Im sure the women in these locals work hard, and are good people and workers but those are the facts. Any job you go to regardless if its physical labor they give the women lighter jobs, because they know the women for the most part are not able. But like all physical work the men and women bodies adapt. The thing is they have seperate standards, for women during the physical tranning part, after people put in applications. I just did physical test for iron worker union in nyc, two weeks ago. We had 300 people for applications, only 100 make it through to interviews, and their are only 25 spots.
They had use doing, drills running around cones, with 60 pound bags, and 200 pound wheel barrows, push ups, situps, ladder climbing. It was crazy guys yelling and screaming, while some old timer with 40 years in the unions saying this a great life changing job, as guys are sturggling to do their last push ups. We had people struggling alot on the wheel, barrow they made you bring up and down a ramp and around cones, and timed ya. The best 100 scores moved on, be it man or women. There was one women killing it, and was in the top 50 so, their are some able and willing women.
No wonder the union is dying 😂😂
lol
Go to college and get a non labor job instead
Americans man....?!?
its a dead end job, you wear out your body for a horrible retirement.
Stephen Lavoie It’s not for everybody, you obviously weren’t tough enough.
@@jjcooks7401 only been doing it for 20 years numbnuts, shitty thing is you dont have to be tough anymore. seems like being a minority or a really confused women is more important than working hard. after 20 years my pension is 800$ a month, woo hoo
@@jjcooks7401 local 86 has some awesome hands though, thats for damn sure
Are you in a union before? I was thinking of becoming one,my local union is offering a gladiator 40 hours program for free.
Article 4 Section 4 No, I’m 35 and just started
Pretty gay
yeah if youre colored youll get the jobs no matter if youre good or not.
Why is that?
No If your a woahman