Mosquito Hotend - Review - Slice Engineering - Chris's Basement
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not sure if you know this but if you search mosquito hotend on YT this is the first video that pops up. Thanks for the detail Chris.
I didn't know that, very cool.
You have answered every single question I had about this hotend. Thank you very much for this great video.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Excellent comparison as always Chris! Thanks.
Thanks Ron!
That nozzle change time is awesome haha, and I’ve never seen a cooling method like that before, impressed it works, a shame it costs 150
It is pricey, but now every time I need to change a nozzle I think to myself. "Ugh....wish this was a Mosquito." :)
Daniel .Power it’s worth it. Scientist - “You are gonna get some weird cancer from breathing micro-plastics for so many years of 3D printing. Is it really worth it?”
Me- “Yea”
On my shopping list....thanks Cris. Great presentation. I have an aluminum screw in v6 mount.
Thanks David.
Bought one at ERRF and still haven't installed it in anything but recent "issues" on my CR-10s has me convinced its time, Thanks for another great review
Nice! A CR10 install would be awesome!
Chris, When you said "How do test a hotend, I really don't know". You totally had me laughing. I love your honesty. You are one of the best 3d printing channels watch. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Frankly, you've piqued my curiosity. I print lots of polycarbonate along with some Ultem (PEI) and PEEK for school projects. I've been using an e3d v6/volcano combo as you imagine but I've been looking at going with the gold version v6, titanium hot end and copper volcano for better performance. That combo is quite in line with the pricing of the Mosquito until I start adding in the cost of water-cooling. At that point, the Mosquito is a very compelling alternative. I'll definitely be dropping a message to the guys down at Slice Engineering to get their take on my unusual use case. I love the v6 ecosystem so I can't imagine swapping all of my machines over, but I can definitely see getting one or two machines onto the Mosquito for sure. Thanks for a very compelling review, Chris!
Excellent Mark! Let us know if you decided to switch over to one and how it goes. In your situation I think you would be very satisfied.
Did you get to test the mosquito? And do you have any tips for printers for these kind of materials?
Thanks for great review.
Thank you for watching!
Have has my eyes on this great video bro
Thanks for watching Daniel!
Thanks Chris great review
Thanks again Larry.
i pre ordered the mosquito magnum last year, and just now installed it onto my CR10S, replacing the micro swiss all metal hot end. I am very impressed with this thing! I print primarily nylons and am moving towards PC so this is right at the level of temperature range i need to be operating in. With the 0.6 nozzle and 0.2 layer heights this thing kicks ass with carbon fiber reinforced nylons!
Nice! I have been using mine for peek lately and it handles it no problem at all.
@@ChrisRiley i did a search for your page for PEEK but didn't find anything.. can you share some info on your setup at some point?
@@mattbackvass Hey Matt, I am still working on that content. It's not as easy as it looks. More to come soon.
Cool Chris , wish I could get one for my Hypercube build
Thanks Don, Slice Engineering is a great company and well deserving of our support.
Great walk-through Chris, thanks buddy. Although I don't personally see me forking out for a Mosquito at this point, it certainly is good to know it's available if my requirements change.
Thanks man! I hear ya, this hotend has its place, but it is super impressive.
I love a machined beautiful copper alloy hotend on a printer that's mostly printed out of plastic. good times. We need a support group.
Ain't it great!
hassle free is so underrated. Time is precious
Totally agree with you!
I ordered one for a large format printer build... I must be crazy but this video helped seal the deal for me over the super volcano.
That's great. Thanks for watching!
Great review real information i can take to the shop floor no BS
Thanks Andrey!
Good knowledge and sharing. Thanks bud
Thank you for watching!
Great to see the results. More pictures of the Mosquito installation on the MK2 would have been great too see.
I will take some and throw them in that doc. Thanks!
Here is my shared album, I added some shots and a video here.
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Thanks Chris. Great job as always !
I haven`t hear from Slice Engineering yet. But, you right!I must see what they say first about the problem! But my purchase decision was with your review, that`s why I decided to write to you first! I will definitely comment back when they reply. But before that, I will delete my previous comment before they reply.
No worries, I know the Slice guys well and I am sure they will be able to find a fix.
I pre ordered the mosquito magnum from Slice as soon as i heard about it. It's been sitting on my desk for a while now, as I travel for work (field engineer). I print nylons almost exclusively right now, but I've wanted to give polycarbonate and maybe even ultem a shot eventually. one look at the mosquito and i knew this was a design i wanted to use.
They are pretty awesome. I to at some point want to get into high temp as well.
Thanks Chris. Ok ... this just told me that I don't need a Mosquito at least for now. I just got my supplies in today except for my water cooled hotend. It is using a titanium heat break with a polished interior, a E3D style Volcano Clone, stainless tips up to 1.2mm, currently 40w but going to 50w heater and a customized screw in high temp thermostat. The system works with two coolant lines going to and from the heat break coolant device, then to a cooling radiator (tiny) with a 80mm LED temperature scrolling fan (pretty darn cool) and then to the water tank and pump which sits around 6-7". I was just getting ready to return my items until I saw your video and realized that mine might be elaborate but for the cost of around $120 I have a complete system with a Volcano setup. Before you know it, using their parts it will hit $200. Mine is for larger volume printing and I didn't want to spend what I did but its something that I have not seen yet anywhere online and the parts can always cool something else like a laser if needed (thats the bonus!). I will upload the build on my channel soon. Thanks for showing me that I made the right choice. Sure simple would be fine but you already have a V6 setup an if thats good enough when compared then why even get a mosquito. Maybe I will give them a shout to see what is the big build capabilities. Next big project is a DIY or modded tall and wide Delta Kossel. Cheers!
You're welcome! You setup sounds like it is going to be awesome!
well done Chris
Thanks Zimmy!
Off topic from the video but wanted to say thank you Chris, i talked with Ben and he was able to send over some advise. Onto the mosquito, i think you nailed it with the everyday use vs high temp, ease of use vs cost. Finding the balance between $$, need and desire brings it into focus.
Excellent! Ben is a great guy.
This video wasn't the easiest one I have ever made. The guys over at Slice Engineering are awesome, I really like their products. I talked with them about how I saw things and they don't deny in anyway that they make a high end product locally and it's not cheap to do so. Again, a great hotend, but for most of us, it's like killing an ant with a sledgehammer. Thanks for the comment.
@@ChrisRiley oh absolutely! I think we, as a community, have gotten more accustomed to cheaper items thanks to Chinese copyright laws..... or lack there of and it is easy to forget that this hobby, if you call it that, while more common now is still quite amazing and the tech behind it, the R&D and true quality products still cost real money. Even with products like genuine E3D products, it brings it closer to the masses but it doesn't mean it is a cheap hobby. With that, people see a product like this and think "it's expensive" but it's actually a good value for what it can do. To quote another commenter "its more than i paid for my printer, anet a8" is a prime example of this when you look at lulzbot and even more ultimaker. Sorry for the story comment lol
I totally agree, this thing is a work of art. I have done some sketching in the past to see what it would cost for me to build a printer sourcing it locally, it's hard to spend that kind of money when I can get a complete Prusa MK2 kit for $600 and the are awesome. This hobby has a very interesting landscape.
The easy nozzle changes is really the only benefit I see at this price point. Thanks for the testing.
It's a pretty cool hotend, but unless you are printing some crazy high temp, that's pretty true.
That's awesome, thank you! I'm looking for a good all metal hot end to print at higher temperatures, and I think I'll go for Slice Engineering products. I want the Bowden tube to be as isolated from the heat source as possible to avoid noxious fumes, and the Mosquito hotends look like they're the best for that by quite a long shot.
Sweet! The mosquito is a really nice choice.
@@ChrisRiley It is! I got a Mosquito Magnum, but haven't installed it yet. I'm waiting for an EZBoard and Tough Extruder. I'll install that first, then hop goes the Mosquito!
Great vid, I debated myself but am taking the plunge to get the mosquito for my ender 5
Nice! They are really well made.
Nice review and details, thank you. Did you check the temperature control with a PID calibration? With the thermal properties of copper, maintaining temperature should be a lot easier?
I did run a sequence, it does appear to hold the heat much better, it's a really solid piece. I can get you the numbers if you are interested.
Thanks, I was just curious. I have the sock on my e3d v6 hot-end and it still has a random wobble that depends on speed and material and whether I brushed my teeth this morning :)
Another lovely review. I heard from another guy testing the mosquito that it worked well for PETG, but he had clogging issues with PLA, which seemed to be tied to retraction. It sounds like you did not have these issues.
Thanks John! I haven't had a jam as of yet, I am currently printing PETG on it and it does work really well. At first I did have a hard time feeding filament into the tube, it has a very tight tolerance. If your filament is even a little bit fat it's a no go.
Chris, thank you for this review!
I'm considering this for my OG Prusa MK3 (upgraded to MK3S). What parts would you buy from Slice to convert the hotend? It looks like the mosquito is compatible with the E3DV6 heater and thermistor. Would you recommend upgrading to the Slice engineering heater and thermistor or roll with the stock E3D parts until they die?
Just off the cuff, givin how lazy I am and how much I don't like to cut zip ties, I would roll with the E3D stuff until it died. It fit on the Mosquito just fine.
@@ChrisRiley thank you!! We are the same then, lol. I don't like to create extra work for myself.
Great video Chris, I have seen these spice engineering hotends and honestly didn't think they would be good, I currently have a titan aero clone which is great, but it's pretty big, especially compared to this one. Cheers for the vid
Thanks Stuart, yeah these things are pretty cool all around.
@Chris Riley, thank man. What do you do with all the test models produced?
I use to send them to a recycler, but they closed. Now I am storing them all hoping to send them to be made into more filament.
Fantastic to see some more products. Thanks for sharing.
You bet! Thanks for watching.
Chris, thank you for the review. You may also compare the volumetric speed limit of different extruders. It would be nice to see if Mosquito design with 50W heater has any advantage in volumetric speed limit compared to a volcano. For example, if it will be able to print at 250 mm/s with 0.4mm nozzle and 0.2 mm layer height it will be a great advantage over any other hot ends.
Thanks Alex, I have been thinking about doing a large nozzle video, I might be able to work this in.
Excited to see how these guys work on 400°C+!
lol, me too, I have to say I am a bit worried.
Did you test using the magnum/high flow version of the mosquito hotend or with the normal/non-volcano model?
This was the standard version.
Hi Chris,
I love this hotend - but I do get a bit more stringing :/ even when ramped up retraction.
I'm on Mk3S - do you have settings you may have used?
Hey, I was using .3 length and 35mm/s speed. Are you getting stringing with PLA?
I appreciate you doing a review on it. The easy change nozzle is a huge plus for me (especially with the lesser chance of stripping), but the price is about as much as a whole end effector for my printer, and I doubt that I'll get it to fit on my Rostock anytime soon.
You're welcome! Hopefully the price will go down as they become more popular.
It’s a bit out of my price range, but if I only had one printer it would make more sense to me as it would make that printer more versatile and reliable. Great job explaining, and showing the differences.
Agreed Mike, If I had one "Ultimate" 3D printer I used, it would have a Mosquito, no question.
07:29 Is the V6 shinier than the Mosquito or is it just the lighting? BTW avid fan of your channel! thank you. :)
The V6 actually seemed to pump more heat into the filament, so what you are seeing is correct. V6 was shinier. Thanks for watching the videos.
Hi Chris, when changing a nozzle single handed is it still better to heat the block up first to a high temp or is it Ok to swap cool with this hot end ? Will it still not spin in the circular clamp similar to a V6 without holding the block? best Steve
I would heat it up just to be safe, but it's pretty sturdy, you can probably still do most filament cold.
As always thanks Chris, since upgrading all my machines with thermal runaway the biggest problem is heating the block to change nozzles without the sock on it and getting heat halt errors, I tend now to leave the sock on until the block is to temp then whip it off to tighten the nozzle.
I love the idea of this for my Anet A8... but it cost more than I paid for it! :)
I may be picking up some of the paste and heater cores!
I hear ya, it can make a cheaper printer really expensive in a hurry. :)
@@ChrisRiley lol, i thought that's why they sell cheap printers, so folks can spend all that $$ to upgrade them! Man, I've been doing it wrong all this time! ;)
Really interesting to see you using such low retraction. On my Sigma R19 I often use 5mm-6.5mm retraction to get rid of stringing. It aloud as hell as slows the print down. Waiting for a Zaribo machine to arrive and see how it stands up against the Sigma.
Yeah, these are pretty impressive, I have heard great things about the Zaribo stuff.
You should only need long retractions in a Bowden system, which the Sigma R19 is. The point of the retraction is to relieve pressure in the nozzle, and that pressure goes all along the filament in the Bowden tube, compressing it. In a direct drive system like these Prusa printers, the filament being pushed is only a few centimeters, and the retraction shouldn't even pull the filament out of the nozzle. Features like Marlin's linear advance and Klipper's pressure advance let the printer itself model the pressure buildup, so you can use nozzle level retraction values. This doesn't only affect retraction, but all speed changes (including beginnings and ends, layer changes, corners etc), and can greatly improve print quality (practically eliminated stringing for my printer). Some slicers do similar things, like Cura's coasting feature, but it's not as accurate. BCN3D are using a variant of Marlin on their printers, but according to the source they post on github, they don't have linear advance enabled. I would consider upgrading to a Marlin version that does.
Great video...but how do you not have more views/subs? You have pretty good content and I would love to see more stuff along the lines of NylonX, Polycarb, Polycarb/CF, and Prusa printers.
LOL, thanks man, I have no clue. More high temp stuff coming soon.
I get a lot of jamming printing small text w/ 0.25 mm nozzles (all kinds) on my Titan Aero V6 using Hatchbox PLA. Slicer settings have been tweaked by experts in the field and still getting jams. Do you think a Mosquito Bondtech BMG extruder combination will do a better job of eliminating jamming w/ smaller nozzles like a 0.25 mm nozzle?
That's really hard to say, with PLA it might be worse. The all metal design can sometimes make PLA a challenge. You already have a V6, so I would say results are going to be the same, the BMG might be a bit better than the Titan.
Can you tool me the tool you used to change the nozzle? Looks so useful!
This is the one I use the most. olssonline.com/the-olsson-nozzle-tool/
Would have been nice to see a test at high print speeds for the magnum vs volcano
Noted, I am planning on getting the Magnum up and running soon.
@@ChrisRiley oeh oeh can you also compare to the super volcano :) pls :)
@@KeesHessels I would LOVE to get one.
@@ChrisRiley yea, i tbh, i would really like to know if these nozzle x are really that much greater. My work wants to let me build a 1500x1000 mm monster, i think i already settled on zesty and magnum, (and yes i am a e3d fanboy) but i sure would love to see a review of that nozzle ...
btw, thanks for your vids m8, always good to watch them..
Ok after 4 months of intense printing (almost 24/7), amazing prints and amazing results disaster struck, during a 30h print in last 4h assembly came loose - heat block started moving up and down vs the 4 tubes and two screws for the heat sink.
I took the hot end off and I can see you can retighten the screws but I can't seem to find a hex key that works? Is it some America hex key nalarky - the ones with mm measurements don't work!
yeah, we use both metric and imperial sets for pretty much everything. there is a good chance if there is a wrench hex key its like 3/8" of 1/8" pr something ridiculous like that lol.
@@infernaldaedra would not expect any other malarkey from a country that writes dates in mm/dd/yyyy format :p
Yeah, I am not sure their size, I can find out for you.
Would be very interested to see what the max volumetric speed is for say PETG or PLA on these hotends. For example, I can push out about 23mm³/s with PETG out of my cheapo v5 clone with a 40w heater at 250C using a 1mm nozzle before it starts to degrade the print quality, or another way of putting it about 1 kilo every 16 hours.
That would be and interesting test. I will see if the Slice guys have any numbers and see if I can create a scenario to hit them.
I currently swap around a V6, Volcano, and now a Magnum. Sometimes I print small and detail, sometimes large and functional. I especially like that the mosquito/magnum do 1 hand nozzle, change, and whats not mentioned much is they use the regular sized nozzle, not the volcano length which when you look at titanium, X, or other specialty nozzles become more expensive.
What I would like to know, since you have both a Mosquito and Magnum, is " is there any downside to a magnum vs the mosquito"
I know the magnum has double the flowrate, but does the magnum require more retraction, drip more, or anything that would point to purchasing a mosquito vs the magnum ? Is there any situation where you couldnt just use the magnum?
That's a great point about the nozzles, didn't think of that. Also, I am not sure on the Magnum vs Mosquito, That would be a great test though.
Did you weigh the 2 hotends? A lighter piece will lower the moment of inertia reducing ghosting and potentially increasing Accel lowering print time.
I did, I have the weights in the doc in the description. After you get the fan and shroud on the E3D, there are almost identical.
Nova is 45 Grams, speaking of weights.
Chris I really appreciate your videos, I like how you performed these tests.
Would you consider doing a test of the Mosquito Magnum? I think that would be a great test, especially for the CoreXY community as these printers are very fast and the increased flow would really help.
On the same vein, do you think you might do a video of the TriangleLab Dragon hotend?
It isn't a clone of the Mosquito, but it is in the same category but at a much better price than the Mosquito.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks Xander, I have a Magnum, but I wasn't really sure what to test. I will see what I can come up with. I haven't seen the dragon yet, but I will check it out.
i have an Anyquibic delta Predator and i wonder if i can install Mosquito™ Magnum Hotend and if i can get the temp to print carbon fiber and PC ? thanks
I am sure the hotend would work just fine, but you will need to craft a mount. It will go up to 450c. CF and PC. not problem.
Can you use Standard E3D and Volcano Nozzles in this?
I know the standard E3D nozzle work, not sure on the volcano.
Did the prints on the mosquito have a more matte finish? Or was it just a lighting thing?
The V6 might be just a little shinier, even though they were the same brand and color filament, they were different batch numbers, so that could have been the cause.
@@ChrisRiley Might also have been a slight drop in print temperature on the mosquito?
I always tell people to find there own print temperature as the actual temperature depends on the design of the heat block, location of the sensor relative to the melt zone and the error of the sensor.
@@TalpaDK It very well could have been. Good tips.
You say the weight of the Mosy is the same as standard E3d v6, is that the the up and running carriage? Because there's nothing to the Mos, I would be interested if it was Less weight ( = less Momentum), also I've heard you don't need an cooling fan for the Hot-end, (Heat break not print fan), with the Mosquito (weight saving) which is what I want for my ~A8, I'll be leaving my Prusa Mk3 as is for the moment though!
Yes, that is setup and running compared to a V6 with a fan. The mosquito has a super solid copper alloy heat block, that's where all the weight it.
Hi, interesting video. I found on Thingiverse a direct drive solution with a Bondtech extruder and Mosquito hotend for a Tronxy X5 SA Pro. Do you think it's a good idea?
Sure, it should work well.
yeeeeeey thx ;)
Ha ha! You're welcome Mario!
Love the concept behind the mosquito, but I don't print higher than 300C and I never do nozzle changes (diamond-tipped nozzles) so I can't really justify swapping over from the V6.
Thanks for your insight
What kind of settings do you use and what slicing software ? I'm curious just to compare would appreciate it if you don't mind
Even if I could email you
Here are the settings I use dumped from a sliced file. drive.google.com/open?id=1BickKUtGxAnv5Gxr3CvM5_mdPgrFC7x8
I'm having issues with it extruding it keeps chewing up filament?
@@nickmiller6112 Measure your filament and see what you get, with the Mosquito the filament has to be spot on.
@@ChrisRiley ok I've checked it and I'm using the prusa pla and I somehow got plastic stuck in the tube above the heatsink... WTH am I doing wrong haha
Do you need to tune that thermistor more? Something seems up with the temps. The E3D prints are much shinier than the Mosquito -- seems like maybe the Mosquito wasn't as hot. Maybe different batches of the same filament?
I should have tuned in the PID a little better, E3D was a little hotter.
@@ChrisRiley did you change out the stock thermistor for one of theirs? I was thinking if you did the coefficients could be different on the new thermistor and so the temperature reading could be inaccurate if not updated. But yeah pids can let it float too much too.
@@nivvis Same e3d thermistor on both tests.
It would be nice to see the maximum flow rate achievable vs a volcano/v6.
That is going to be really hard to test, but I hope to compare the 2 soon.
Great product and great video. For those commenting on the cost, keep in mind that it is still a fairly new product and they are still paying off R&D. LOL! I am sure the cost will drop as time goes on. :)
Thanks Glenn, well said.
Unfortunately before they're able to recoup R&D costs a far east company will "clone" it with cheap materials and run them out of business if they don't give up their margin to try to compete. I hope the best for Slice and they seem like good folks. I hear they manufacture here in Indiana, so maybe I'll swap one of my machines over and give it a shot before the flood!
Did I hear that correctly 0.3mm retraction?? Was that with a DD?
Yes, 0.3mm, DD?
@@ChrisRiley direct drive, tha k you for your reply.
I am curious to see how the mosquito responds to a notoriously stringy material like PETG
I should fair pretty well. I have found with PETG the less retraction the better and the Mosquito needs almost none.
Did you manage to clog the hotend in any of your test prints ?? It would be a great product if it never clogged !!
I have never clogged a Mosquito as of yet.
The ability to swap nozzles so easily would be worth it even if there were no other advantages, but there are, especially if you want to be able to print some high temp plastics. The oft touted Micro Swiss doesn't offer a copper version of their hot end so aren't even competing in that regard.
Well said, a great hotend all around.
I want to mount this hot end on cr10s what do you think?
Sounds like a great idea. I'm sure there is a mount available.
150 is a ridiculous amount of money ( and + heater cartridge and thermistor and making your own mount.) I think i'll pass. Always good to see inovation but with little if any benefit and at that cost its a questionable upgrade at best. I guess if its successful the big rock candy mountain mafia will be on it in an instant Looks cheap to clone too.
It will be hard to justify for most projects I agree. Kinda curious how fast we will see a clone.
I think reliability is worth the price. I plan to print more PC and Ultem in the future, so something like a mosquito is a must to me. Not to mention that a dyze design extruder is much more expensive. If you're printing PLA and ABS then this is not for you, but this kind of product is a must for high temp plastics.
@@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 Nah! I can print poly maxPC all day long on standard E3D V6 ( Prusa Mk2) & Ultimaker 2+
@@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 It is a really cool piece of engineering for sure.
@@ChrisRiley for sure in a near future probably
this is more professional then hobby level
Agreed.
OK for printing solder
It's hot enough.
Gotta wait for the clones :3
I'm sure they are not far out.
Now that the clones are out. They can't compete with a Mosquito.
I'm at a loss. I keep getting a lot of stringing. I've tried various retract, temp settings. From 0.1-2mm and 180-230C nothing seems to change. Anyone got any ideas I can try out? I have the Tevo Nereus with MKS Robin Nano. Printing with PLA cause I don't have a nice shop for ABS.
Have you tried different spools of filament? Do you think humidity might be a problem?
@@ChrisRiley I have tried that. I've tried 4 different brands of PLA. I installed e3d v6, Mosquito, even the stock hotend has been replaced. The only thing I haven't tried is swapping out the control. board. Almost everyone on the Facebook owners page has changed the Robin Nano with a Gen L or something else.
Wow, that is really strange. I will be interested to hear if the board swap fixes it.
@@ChrisRileywell of I can't sell it by ther time I receive and flash an SKR v1.3. I'll let ya know if I fail or succeed.
@@demonkinglamb636 Thanks, keep me posted.
The mosquito appears to have a harder time with the overhangs. Both on the Bender head and near the bottom of the Benchy.
Just slightly, the copper retains heat much better. Can probably drop the temp slight to solve it. Also the part fan might need to come down just a little.
Thx. :) And you're right, not for the average (who, me? lol) hobbyist.
lol, agreed, me included, it's a pretty agressive hotend for just burning through my $10 PLA. :)
I would be more interested to see how it improves retractions with a bowden setup.
Right on, I do plan on doing more with it in future projects.
Thats what I was thinking too. Slap it on your ender 3 lets GO. :)
@@E-3 You know what......alright. :)
@@ChrisRiley Nice one, I look forward to it.
I also like your Sli3r placeholder vid. Maybe you could combine the two and make a how to make a variable retraction tower or sequential objects in the new prusa slicer? Just a thought.
@@E-3 We will see what we can do.
8:40 - it works as both a thermal conductor and a what?
Anti seize, keeps the metal parts from galling.
@@ChrisRiley Oh thanks! English is not my primary language and the auto captions glitched out on that part.
No worries! Glad to help.
I'm new to your channel and have enjoyed catching up on your vids. I like your review style. The only comment I have is you keep saying the name of the Prusa machines wrong. It's not the "EM KAY" 2 or 3. Mk is a Britishism. Its short for Mark 2 or Mark 3. In British Mark means version,. Hope it helps,.
I'm now subscribed.
Ha ha ha! First off I love your username. It made me laugh.
I get that it's Mark, saying MK is just a bad habit. I'll work on that. :) Thanks for the sub!
Thanks, it's a family name going back generations.
It may seem like I'm nit-picking, but that sort of thing always makes the voice in the back of my head start saying "well if they got that wrong, what else don't they know."
does it fit on the hemera?
No, it doesn't.
@@ChrisRiley I'm not to interested in printing flexibables. Mainly helmets and figures (6 inch and bigger). Would you suggest the bmg with mosquito or hemera with the v6 upgrade?
@@baljazz Both a great choice, but I would probably go with the Hemear just because of price.
The bender head decided for me, if there isn't any print quality difference then why bother?
It's really a better fit for high temp printing.
What is the difference in vertical height?
V6 is 62.3mm with a nozzle. Mosquito is 41mm without nozzle or groove mount.
@@ChrisRiley Thanks for the reply. In order to be useful this measurement needs to be comparable, say from the groove to the tip in both cases, so the difference in Z can be seen.
Hey, I finally got you some pictures. This is my 3d printed groove mount. photos.app.goo.gl/xRfEtGTwAQxQ1eKV9 photos.app.goo.gl/ivabrfeWpSE7Cjyv9
Hey so, I bought a Mosquito for my MK3s today... My Proto Pasta just won't stop jamming... so I figured screw it. why not. Worse case I will have to use it on my Artemis...WHICH brings me to my question for today... I watch you 99.99% on my phone. Just now on my MacBook. First off, handsome... secondly what in the hell is in the SEEMECNC BOX ON THE FLOOR!!!!! OH SAY A DELTA???
lol, it might be.....a very small one.....maybe someone we know might have used the same one for a backpack printer. ;)
No way! MITCH!
It looks great but for that price there should be heater, temp, and nozzle....
Hopefully, we will see the price start coming down.
What is retraction ?
It's the opposite of extrusion. It pulls the filament back to keep it from oozing.
@@ChrisRiley Ahh, got it. Thank you.
is it just me or did the mosquito prints seem more matte in finish?
You are the second person to say that. I went back and looked at the bender heads and the V6 one does look just a little shinier. These were the same brand and color of filament, but they were different batch numbers so that could have been part of the issue.
Hey Chris,
in your Video there is a wrong information I think.
You said at 4:16 that the E3D V6 has three base pieces. And all of them are aluminium. I think it's wrong.
1. High temperature will only affect the heat block (aluminium). The heatsink will not heat up like the block.
2. The heat break is not aluminium. It's S/S 303 (wiki.e3d-online.com/images/0/09/V6-175-BREAK.pdf) so it can handle more than 500°C ;)
Best regards,
whitecrane [PCPointer.de]
Thanks for the info. Maybe it didn't come across well, but I state two pieces are aluminum, the barrel is not.
Oh yes that's true. All the pieces outside the barel :) sorry, my mistake
I am also preparing an article but didn't find a good solution to upgrade the heated for Ultem or PEEK printing. I could take the E3D high temp bed but it does not really fit and to use it I will need a second power supply or a better one. And also a MOSFET because I think the Rambo Einsy 1.1 will not be able to handle this current
And I am also looking for materials for my high temp extruder in the MK3S. Only 3DX Tech Carbon X has a tg of 143 degrees and can be printed with the MK3S under 300°C. I didn't find another materials. Alternatively Polycarbonat
@@PCPointerDE Yeah, polycarb is probably your best bet.
@@ChrisRiley I will get a PEEK sample for testing. But I think I will also have to replace the steel sheet with PEI. I will use a glass plate from E3D. and I will exceed the bed temperature to 125 degrees and hope it will work :)
@@PCPointerDE I have been having good luck with glass and the Nano adhesive stuff. It's kind of pricey, but they might send you a sample. visionminer.com/products/nano-polymer-adhesive
if they want to more peoples on the market they have to lower their price a little bit its a very nice hot end but the price turn me off:)
Great product, hopefully after they get the R&D cost paid down, they price will come down some.
which kind of nozzles are these using? they look awesome and worth the price
I used E3D brass in this video.
i wonder how long it will be until the Chinese make a substandard clone.....
I have had the same thought....as always, probably now long.
man... it is expensive!
Hey Thomas, it is, but I think the price will come down.
Hmm, buy a new hot end with slightly better stringing performance or buy a whole new printer on which I can put a different size nozzle for the same price...gee, that's a tough decision.
And people wonder why China does so much cloning...
I am not disagreeing with you, but I don't understand the thought process. China does cloning because the manufacturing cost is really high in America?
@@ChrisRiley Yes, I understand that and I'm all for supporting anything made here in the USA, but with my limited income I have no choice but to buy the cheaper clones. Not feeling sorry for myself, but I am at the point in life where I no longer have the option of getting a better paying job.
@@Waltkat I completely understand.
I'm sorry, at the price point the Chinese will clone the hell out of these and sell them for $20 - and they'll include the thermistor and heater.
Sure the Chinese clones will be crappy to start off with but the Chinese tend to catch on rather quickly. It sucks but it's guaranteed to happen.
I don't disagree at all.
Lol, testing a high end hotend and then not testing engineering filaments and high speed printing. Kinda pointless like this imo.
I get it. Not the easiest thing to test, but I am testing them now. More to come.
@@ChrisRiley Cool, the rest of the tech dive was great though!
Waaaay over priced.
It is kinda pricey.
7:36 Excuse me? The left one looks much better. shiny surface, less drooping... at 8:10 i can even tell that the one on the right is the mk2 one.
Also no disclaimer whatsoever. Did you buy it yourself? Did they give you one for free? Did they pay you to review it? Because it sounds like they did.
Sorry, but I'll never gonna trust any reviews on this channel... Tutorials are great, but this is too much for a hotend that brings no benefit, prints look the same if not worse, with that pricetag. It's just too much praising the thing while holding up prints that definitely tell another story.
I really wish you would watch the whole video.
@@ChrisRiley well... that's why most people clarify this in the beginning, not in the end card that everyone skips... Still, I can clearly see that the Mosquito print looks worse. everything else "tested" are settings that you should tune for every new spool of filament really and doesn't say much about the hotend itself.
@@therealpanse Did you read the write up and see the high res pics?
Pricing is stupid.. You are too proud (US boys) of your products to charge this and say it's worth it? Nope..
All points of view are appreciated.
I love the features but the price is totally irresponsible. At the end of the day that hotend will, jam wear and break just as any other hotend.except that in the process it will also wear and break the economics of your hobby 15 times faster.