if someone has to learn that rape and sexual assault is not a good thing...how can he be trusted to do anything right? disgusting human being along with joel quenneville should lose their privioledge to work in sports.
@@PATRIOT-gt5vrI agree it’s classless filth like bowman doesn’t deserve a second chance the victims can’t redo or stop what happened in their past that will be with them for the rest of their life the least the league could do was to give him just a little taste of how that feels
The victim of this alleged "crime" didn't talk about it publicly until 12 years after the fact. There weren't any criminal charges laid, let alone a trial with a guilty verdict. Bowman, in the middle of the Stanley Cup Finals (2010) believed his overbearing boss and Blackhawks' President , John McDonough, when he said he was "looking after it". The video coach was forced to resign by Blackhawks' HR department about 2 weeks after Chicago won the Cup.
Bowman! As an Oilers fan this breaks my heart. We have the best fans in the world, as a reward we are stuck with this heartless monster that covered up and protected a sexual predator, allowing them to offend again and again. Until this man is fired, my wallet and support are shut off to this organization. I'm not watching a single game, buying a single jersey, or supporting them publicly in any way. Some principles cannot be compromised, and I will never support those that allow young men to be assaulted by protecting the predator. any one that stands up for Bowman is a clown and should be treated like a clown. disgusting on so many levels. shake you head Seravalli Jeff Jackson Kats or any one that supports this guy should never be in pro sports own a team or speak on a media platform ever again, and if any one think he deserves a second chance, then there also a clown.
Publicly, Jackson would have to say that he hadn’t talked to the Oilers’ key players. McDavid wouldn’t be comfortable with the perception that he’s running management. I think there were some conversations between Jackson and key players about it, after some due diligence by Jackson to vet Bowman’s progress since Chicago. Did I like the choice? Not really. Do I believe that Jackson has the team’s best interest at heart? Yes. We can’t go from looking at Jackson like a genius for the trades he made and then question everything based on this hiring. When the Evander Kane situation was happening, the fans were very divided about the prospect of having such a “controversial “ player on the team. We will have to see. Maybe the public pressure will be too much.
Evander kanes situation wasn’t even close to how bad this is bowman is someone who shouldn’t have gotten a second chance in the nhl that’s just the truth as a flames fan this is gross to put it simply plus for me anyway this has tainted the battle of Alberta for me personally
As a Flames fan, I am hoping for all the best for the Oilers with this move. It doesn't make much sense to me, but really the Oilers fans really deserve the best.
I’m a flames fan and I have had respect for the oilers and other nhl franchises in general but this is disgraceful some people don’t deserve a second chance and he as sure shit doesn’t he’s a coward like everyone else who didn’t stand up and speak this might sound extreme but for me personally the battle of Alberta is kind of tainted for the time being
@@jasonmayes2145 The Battle of Alberta is non-existent at the present time. The Oilers made it to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final while the Flames didn't even make the playoffs. Jackson has made numerous savvy moves since being hired as Oilers' CEO and I trust his acumen over some bitter Flames' fans musings online. Jackson does his homework and you don't.
@@waynemilligan6649 im not a bitter flames fan if the flames hired him I wouldn’t be supporting them it’s that simple and yeah I did my homework and he was covering up sexual assault like many others also this isn’t a savvy move it’s disgusting and your moral judgement for this being okay is a multi billionaire company/ franchise giving the thumbs up you have no morals or your a sheep or you could be both wake up
@@jasonmayes2145 The victim of the alleged "sexual assault" didn't speak about it publicly for over 12 years - so what was Bowman supposedly "covering up"? You obviously haven't done your "homework". The much-touted "sexual assault" consisted of a single instance of supposedly coerced oral sex. The Blackhawks were in the 2010 Stanley Cup Finals at the time which they eventually won. Bowman's overbearing boss, John McDonough, informed him that he would "look after it". About 2 weeks after Chicago won the Cup the video coach in question was forced to resign. In the midst of a successful Stanley Cup Final Bowman believed his boss when he said he was looking after it. That's hardly the crime of the century.
Ok so hear me out.i believe everyone deserves a second chance is life, as life can be a bitch at times. Yes I do believe this was a very bad hire after seeing what JJ was doing the last couples weeks on his own but IMO He didn’t need to rush into this and I believe that Bowman should’ve gotten a roll for at least one year in the minors or some sort assistant to the GM position before getting the keys to best “oiled” machine there is.
I'd love for oilers fans to stop giving the team money this year. I'd be ecstatic. I wasn't going to be anyway but I wouldn't after this. The players they've grabbed were questionable but they were ok to get another chance. Does Bowman REALLY need another chance?
At the very least, this adds an unneeded narrative on an extremely sensitive subject. At the worst, this is the beginning of the end. The truth is somewhere in the middle and ultimately the players will decide if this was a good move or not. It's really cup or bust now.
I'd hate to see the worst option if this was the best GM they could find. Every parent of a prospect drafted by the Oilers is going to be looking at this team differently after this.
If Jackson believes that Bowman is the best candidate available and that Bowman is sincere in making amends, then not making this move because of controversy would be weak. Real leaders make tough decisions that they believe are the best choice, even in the face of controversy. If Sheldon Kennedy endorses it, why can't Oiler fans? Life is complex. Craig MacTavish was hired in a controversial move and was Mr. Oiler's player, coach, and GM. It created incredible loyalty and effort in C.M.
Second chance was even given to kassian to Kane to Perry now bowmen it’s all good will see how look but important things is we have good team well coached that all matters
The thing that really bothers me is that Bowman hasn't accomplished anything in the NHL. He inherited an amazing Blackhawks team that won a few cups and he arguably made them a worse team over the years after that. I don't care about whatever happened in Chicago to cause him to be kicked out of the NHL. That's in the past, but seriously his actual GM track record blows more nuts than Jenna Jameson in her prime.
He did inherit a great team, they accomplished what they wanted...3 cups. When your at the top there is only one place to go, and that is down so I don't hold that against him. What was going on behind closed doors was handled terribly to put it nicely, that's concerning
Nobody gave recommendations for that guy..full stop. Spreading misinformation when the facts are readily available for you to check out is bad form fellas..just saying.
Stan being tied to covering a sex crime/s leads me to to think, wow.........Is he the best the Oilers can attract ??? We should have done better... Personally Stan should have been ousted from the NHL in every aspect period and never allowed to return.!
Just stick to hockey guys. The commentary about a subject that you only have limited details on is counter-productive to the future of the team. Let the League decide the fate of franchises and management. The deal with Stan is done and he is the GM of the Oilers. Try not to kick him in the teeth before you at least shake his hand. Can we get back to talking hockey now!!!
We can in no way know the condition of this man’s heart now that he has faced expulsion and ridicule for his actions. He has paid his penance in the eyes of the League and now it is time for doing better. Let the healing begin. We have been a place of redemption for others…we can be that for Stan too. Don’t quit on anyone!
@@Misguided-w8h I am not judging Bowman or the Oilers...just making observations...Someone quit on the teenage boy that punk criminal allegedly abused post Hawks. Did Stan go talk to him? Anyone go talk to him? See how he feels? Is everybody concerned with remediation and redemptive narratives for Bowman or for the Victims he is alleged to have had a hand in putting in dangerJust speaking comparatively to keep a grounded perspective. ...remember the Bus tragedy that took so many young lives....well its was from a Societal perspective rationalized then resolved ....but it has not been.....MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS were raised to support these processes....but even after the entire dynamic has been integrated into History we have failed to deal with causality. If you understand what I mean, money was used and media was used to cover up symptomology to hide causality so we have like it or not 100% let down the memory and spirits of all those who passed and survived.... If the Oilers wanted to do things the right way and properly embed Bowman into the Community they could... why they dont is anyones guess....maybe they just cant figure things out huh?
bad hire. covering up a crime shows a man's character and moral compass. protect the kids.
He’s not even a good gm morals aside. Doesn’t make sense
if someone has to learn that rape and sexual assault is not a good thing...how can he be trusted to do anything right? disgusting human being along with joel quenneville should lose their privioledge to work in sports.
@@PATRIOT-gt5vrI agree it’s classless filth like bowman doesn’t deserve a second chance the victims can’t redo or stop what happened in their past that will be with them for the rest of their life the least the league could do was to give him just a little taste of how that feels
Beside that, he is a horrible GM!
The victim of this alleged "crime" didn't talk about it publicly until 12 years after the fact. There weren't any criminal charges laid, let alone a trial with a guilty verdict. Bowman, in the middle of the Stanley Cup Finals (2010) believed his overbearing boss and Blackhawks' President , John McDonough, when he said he was "looking after it". The video coach was forced to resign by Blackhawks' HR department about 2 weeks after Chicago won the Cup.
Bowman! As an Oilers fan this breaks my heart. We have the best fans in the world, as a reward we are stuck with this heartless monster that covered up and protected a sexual predator, allowing them to offend again and again. Until this man is fired, my wallet and support are shut off to this organization. I'm not watching a single game, buying a single jersey, or supporting them publicly in any way. Some principles cannot be compromised, and I will never support those that allow young men to be assaulted by protecting the predator. any one that stands up for Bowman is a clown and should be treated like a clown. disgusting on so many levels. shake you head Seravalli Jeff Jackson Kats or any one that supports this guy should never be in pro sports own a team or speak on a media platform ever again, and if any one think he deserves a second chance, then there also a clown.
Shame on Oilers choice not respecting the player who was abused and pretty sire still suffering
Publicly, Jackson would have to say that he hadn’t talked to the Oilers’ key players. McDavid wouldn’t be comfortable with the perception that he’s running management. I think there were some conversations between Jackson and key players about it, after some due diligence by Jackson to vet Bowman’s progress since Chicago. Did I like the choice? Not really. Do I believe that Jackson has the team’s best interest at heart? Yes.
We can’t go from looking at Jackson like a genius for the trades he made and then question everything based on this hiring.
When the Evander Kane situation was happening, the fans were very divided about the prospect of having such a “controversial “ player on the team. We will have to see. Maybe the public pressure will be too much.
Evander kanes situation wasn’t even close to how bad this is bowman is someone who shouldn’t have gotten a second chance in the nhl that’s just the truth as a flames fan this is gross to put it simply plus for me anyway this has tainted the battle of Alberta for me personally
As a Flames fan, I am hoping for all the best for the Oilers with this move. It doesn't make much sense to me, but really the Oilers fans really deserve the best.
I’m a flames fan and I have had respect for the oilers and other nhl franchises in general but this is disgraceful some people don’t deserve a second chance and he as sure shit doesn’t he’s a coward like everyone else who didn’t stand up and speak this might sound extreme but for me personally the battle of Alberta is kind of tainted for the time being
@@jasonmayes2145 The Battle of Alberta is non-existent at the present time. The Oilers made it to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final while the Flames didn't even make the playoffs. Jackson has made numerous savvy moves since being hired as Oilers' CEO and I trust his acumen over some bitter Flames' fans musings online. Jackson does his homework and you don't.
@@waynemilligan6649 im not a bitter flames fan if the flames hired him I wouldn’t be supporting them it’s that simple and yeah I did my homework and he was covering up sexual assault like many others also this isn’t a savvy move it’s disgusting and your moral judgement for this being okay is a multi billionaire company/ franchise giving the thumbs up you have no morals or your a sheep or you could be both wake up
@@jasonmayes2145 The victim of the alleged "sexual assault" didn't speak about it publicly for over 12 years - so what was Bowman supposedly "covering up"? You obviously haven't done your "homework". The much-touted "sexual assault" consisted of a single instance of supposedly coerced oral sex. The Blackhawks were in the 2010 Stanley Cup Finals at the time which they eventually won. Bowman's overbearing boss, John McDonough, informed him that he would "look after it". About 2 weeks after Chicago won the Cup the video coach in question was forced to resign. In the midst of a successful Stanley Cup Final Bowman believed his boss when he said he was looking after it. That's hardly the crime of the century.
Ok so hear me out.i believe everyone deserves a second chance is life, as life can be a bitch at times. Yes I do believe this was a very bad hire after seeing what JJ was doing the last couples weeks on his own but IMO He didn’t need to rush into this and I believe that Bowman should’ve gotten a roll for at least one year in the minors or some sort assistant to the GM position before getting the keys to best “oiled” machine there is.
I'd love for oilers fans to stop giving the team money this year. I'd be ecstatic. I wasn't going to be anyway but I wouldn't after this. The players they've grabbed were questionable but they were ok to get another chance. Does Bowman REALLY need another chance?
At the very least, this adds an unneeded narrative on an extremely sensitive subject. At the worst, this is the beginning of the end. The truth is somewhere in the middle and ultimately the players will decide if this was a good move or not. It's really cup or bust now.
I didn't like it initially but I'll give JJ the benefit of the doubt. So far he's coming up aces...so we'll see hoe it goes
I'd hate to see the worst option if this was the best GM they could find. Every parent of a prospect drafted by the Oilers is going to be looking at this team differently after this.
If Jackson believes that Bowman is the best candidate available and that Bowman is sincere in making amends, then not making this move because of controversy would be weak. Real leaders make tough decisions that they believe are the best choice, even in the face of controversy. If Sheldon Kennedy endorses it, why can't Oiler fans? Life is complex. Craig MacTavish was hired in a controversial move and was Mr. Oiler's player, coach, and GM. It created incredible loyalty and effort in C.M.
Second chance was even given to kassian to Kane to Perry now bowmen it’s all good will see how look but important things is we have good team well coached that all matters
Horrible hire. Fire him.
Yes, sir!!
Stan bowman is chia but also doesn’t care about sa
Is Peter back?
The thing that really bothers me is that Bowman hasn't accomplished anything in the NHL. He inherited an amazing Blackhawks team that won a few cups and he arguably made them a worse team over the years after that. I don't care about whatever happened in Chicago to cause him to be kicked out of the NHL. That's in the past, but seriously his actual GM track record blows more nuts than Jenna Jameson in her prime.
The fact you DON’T CARE about what happened in Chicago says a lot about you as a person and it’s not good.
So that's the thing "really" bothers you eh
He did inherit a great team, they accomplished what they wanted...3 cups. When your at the top there is only one place to go, and that is down so I don't hold that against him. What was going on behind closed doors was handled terribly to put it nicely, that's concerning
Despicable.
Really? This is the best GM they can get on this planet?? I guess time will tell us all.
Nobody gave recommendations for that guy..full stop. Spreading misinformation when the facts are readily available for you to check out is bad form fellas..just saying.
You two need to read the report and stop spreading misinformation. Get the facts, then discuss. How do you not know this?
Stan being tied to covering a sex crime/s leads me to to think, wow.........Is he the best the Oilers can attract ??? We should have done better... Personally Stan should have been ousted from the NHL in every aspect period and never allowed to return.!
Everyones feelings hurt. Everyone firing from the hip without facts. If you dont like it dont support the Oilers.
Waste of Money ..unnecessary hire.
Just stick to hockey guys. The commentary about a subject that you only have limited details on is counter-productive to the future of the team. Let the League decide the fate of franchises and management. The deal with Stan is done and he is the GM of the Oilers. Try not to kick him in the teeth before you at least shake his hand. Can we get back to talking hockey now!!!
As hockey Fans we dont want him. Full Stop. Oilers be Oilers,so what? We STILL dont want him. Its a moral Compass issue in Edmonton,they have none.
We can in no way know the condition of this man’s heart now that he has faced expulsion and ridicule for his actions. He has paid his penance in the eyes of the League and now it is time for doing better. Let the healing begin. We have been a place of redemption for others…we can be that for Stan too. Don’t quit on anyone!
@@Misguided-w8h I am not judging Bowman or the Oilers...just making observations...Someone quit on the teenage boy that punk criminal allegedly abused post Hawks. Did Stan go talk to him? Anyone go talk to him? See how he feels? Is everybody concerned with remediation and redemptive narratives for Bowman or for the Victims he is alleged to have had a hand in putting in dangerJust speaking comparatively to keep a grounded perspective. ...remember the Bus tragedy that took so many young lives....well its was from a Societal perspective rationalized then resolved ....but it has not been.....MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS were raised to support these processes....but even after the entire dynamic has been integrated into History we have failed to deal with causality. If you understand what I mean, money was used and media was used to cover up symptomology to hide causality so we have like it or not 100% let down the memory and spirits of all those who passed and survived.... If the Oilers wanted to do things the right way and properly embed Bowman into the Community they could... why they dont is anyones guess....maybe they just cant figure things out huh?