Thanks again for a very comprehensive review of pallets, grips and over grips. It is very much a personal preference, and for the first time in over 50 years of playing tennis, I am just starting to experiment with grip sizes and textures thanks to you. I should have done this decades ago. I went from using size 4 in the 1970-90's decades (leather with absorbent cloth overgrips), down to size 3 in the 2000's. I am now going back to size 4 for a more relaxed grip and arm relief, and I'm starting to like HEAD Hydrosorb pro grips without a cover. Thanks for prompting me to start experimenting again, but with the knowledge from several of your videos.
I have a HEAD ARTHUR ASHE COMP 1. THE PALLET WAS EASY TO CHANGE BY REMOVING 1 SCREW..PULLING OFF THE PALLET AND SCREW IN A NEW SIZE!!!! BLOODY BRILLIANT
My preferred grips by ranking: 1. Yonex syn leather NS (grey color). 2. Head Hydrosorb Pro or Tour. Over grips: 1. Karakal Super grip. Leather grips: 1. Tennis warehouse leather grips 2. Head finest calfskin 3. Prince Calfskin.
As someone who learned to play the game from 1979 when everything was wooden racquets and big leather-gripped handles, I’ve never understood the hardcore leather grip users (who also appear to be online forum fanatics). Don’t believe the nonsense claim that leather grips get tackier when wet - that’s only when they’re new and have the nice nap on them. They get progressively harder, thinner and slipperier in short time. If leather was that great, Tourna-Grip would never have made their millions of dollars in the 80’s. Also, the tournaments wouldn’t have needed to put all those chalk and sawdust boxes courtside for the pro’s during tournaments.
When i buy a racket i remove the base grip it comes with and add a leather grip, this makes the bevels basically feel the same as they do without the grip because the leather molds, then i add a wilson pro overgrip and it makes it a very bevely over grip. As a one handed backhand player and a eastern gripper this is very nice.
I see pictures of a few Pro Players in the 1970's and 1980's using tape over the leather grip then what looks like I am guessing using some kind of clay, chalk, soil/dirt, then for both brushing off excess and working in rest with water preferably something like a fully damp paper towel or a rag to remove that sticky feeling. I did this in one layer 1/4 overlapping spiral after overlapping on the top plastic part (using older aluminum) and gluing bottom end after seeing some pros tape ends coming undone, going with a waterproof super glue (sweat) over the stock grip which vinyl was peeling.
My favorite replacement grip was from Volkl and was called Volkl V-Suede. They stopped making it much to my disappointment. I asked Volkl about this and they said they stopped production of this grip because it was a slow seller. This surprises me because it was such a great grip. This was an amazing grip. Jonas have you ever tried this grip? Any of you ever try it?
Jonas, if you like a tacky grip, give a try to the Tourna Mega Tac, very tacky and it last a lot..another that comes to mind is the Soderling true tac tour
I tried all the big tacky ones recently, Tourna Mega Tac Dunlop Supertac Wilson Pro Gamma Supreme Yonex Gamma is my fav, a bit thicker and nicer feel, Gamma RZR Tac on the way
White grips seem to be tackier. Do you agree? I scored a box of Toalson white over wraps and have been pleasantly surprised after using Bab over wraps for years.
Tried so many different Overgrips over the years and I'm always going back to Pacific X TACK Pro, a tacky overgrip with very good feel and by far the best durability on the market... You can easily play 15 hours with one grip and it's still very solid...
I agree. Used regular dry tourna grip for a long time and then one day I bought tourna tac on accident! Have enjoyed using is ever since! I use it on top of head hydrosorb pro, and it has pretty good durability
@@adamfrary6227 yep. i thought the pros were using the tourna tac instead of the tourna grip which they are using, and so I got tourna tac. never regretted that purchase
I used Wilson but when I discovered Pros Pro...I changed...always white and most similar possible to Wilsons...white?? You see clearly when you need to change them...xD....grip I used leather because I put lead tape on my racquets for balance but now I am not sure the weight be higher
I've tried many grips and grip setups and found a setup that's perfect for me (disclaimer: I'm *not* sponsored nor do I get kickbacks). I favor the Head type more rectangular grip shape, L3, and use a very thin Kimony leather grip with the Wilson Pro overgrip. I also use a couple GripYOU rubber rings on the grip under the overgrip to help me find my forehand and backhand grip positions (they help a lot with grip slippage).
My favorite combo is also Head Hydrosorb Pro and Yonex Supergrap. Funny thing is I've been using Yonex Supergrap way before they were popular, tried them randomly many many years ago and I was like WOW. Now everyone and their aunts have them.
I usually play with wilson pro which is good as you know, but try out gamma supreme overgrip. I was really surprised its quality, adherance and longevility.
What does the volkl leather grip weigh? I just put a wilson leather on my racquet and it was 25grams. The cushion replacement grip that i took off was 15grams. I cant stand the tourna grip, they fall apart after 1 or 2 matches. If you like thick cusion grips try stellar douline. Very sticky and comfy. I always use leather base grip with a white wilson pro overgrip and pulled kind of tight to still feel the bevels
Was using synthetic replacement grips (with no overgrip). I have just started using Wilson overgrips on top of leather grips. Don't know what brand leather grip is on there. But I suspect that regardless of the brand of leather grip, the differences will be minor. i.e. it will mainly have the Wilson overgrip feeling regardless of what brand leather grip is underneath... I am not that picky and sensitive to the difference. Would you agree?
looking for weight of the following replacement grips: head hydrosorb pro ( package says 18g but TW thread can't confirm) wilson pro performance babolat syntec couldn't find the last 2 on TW great video, thanks
Does grip size on tennis racket include base grip? Because its been a huge misunderstanding people buy racket that says 4 1/4 " but in reality its 4 3/8" with base grip.
Great video. I didn't know that the Head Pro Overgrip is a rebranded Tourna, I just assumed Murray has been using Tourna all this time. Do you know which Tourna is it correspond to is it the XL, XXL or the normal width? Thanks
Hi. Is it the case that Yonex Racquets have a slightly bigger handle and use a slightly thinner (stock) grip? I found that the diameter of a stock yonex grip with 2 over grips was about the same as a wilson Sublime Feel grip and a single overgrip.
Goodmorning. I like something less from Grip size 3 and something over size 2 on my wilson Clash (grip size 2) Suggest a combination to increase this grip (currently use the stock basic grip Wilson Pro Performance + wilson pro overgrip)
Greetings Tennisnerd! I’m planning to make a switch to the Head Radical Pro 2021,I’ve been using the Wilson ProStaff 97 with a 4 1/2 grip size, what grip size should I order if I would make a switch to the Head Radical Pro 2021? And will I experience major adjustments? Thanks🙏
In my experience, Wilson pro is a decent standard all around but the Yonex wins in the tackiness department for me. Also, the Yonex lasts longer for me as well. Meaning I can use the same grip for weeks on end even when most of the initial tack has worn down. Haven't tried any from T-fibre
hello I am used to playing with a Wilson Pro Staff and L3 size grip with one Wilson pro over grip. i have just recently purchased a Yonex Ezone 98 but was only available in G2. the grip is definitely different shape to Wilson as I can feel the difference. I have been told that Yonex have increased the Size of their Grips like the G2 is equivalent to a g3 in other brands like head and Wilson. Do you know if this is true? But if it actually true to size and is smaller would you recommend applying two over grips?
@Tennisnerd Do you find the black tackier(harder on the skin) than the white ones? I ran out of white and the black ones are trashing my hand. Hopefully I am not a crazy person
I've been trying for years to increase my grip size to 5 1/2 without losing bevels. I've tried everything. Any suggestions? I play with Wilson Burn LS 100. THANK YOU 😊
I prefer to use Durex Pleasure me latex grips. The ribs really give you a nice grip and it’s thin so you get a lot of feel.
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Thanks again for a very comprehensive review of pallets, grips and over grips. It is very much a personal preference, and for the first time in over 50 years of playing tennis, I am just starting to experiment with grip sizes and textures thanks to you. I should have done this decades ago. I went from using size 4 in the 1970-90's decades (leather with absorbent cloth overgrips), down to size 3 in the 2000's. I am now going back to size 4 for a more relaxed grip and arm relief, and I'm starting to like HEAD Hydrosorb pro grips without a cover. Thanks for prompting me to start experimenting again, but with the knowledge from several of your videos.
I have a HEAD ARTHUR ASHE COMP 1. THE PALLET WAS EASY TO CHANGE BY REMOVING 1 SCREW..PULLING OFF THE PALLET AND SCREW IN A NEW SIZE!!!! BLOODY BRILLIANT
My preferred grips by ranking:
1. Yonex syn leather NS (grey color).
2. Head Hydrosorb Pro or Tour.
Over grips:
1. Karakal Super grip.
Leather grips:
1. Tennis warehouse leather grips
2. Head finest calfskin
3. Prince Calfskin.
As someone who learned to play the game from 1979 when everything was wooden racquets and big leather-gripped handles, I’ve never understood the hardcore leather grip users (who also appear to be online forum fanatics). Don’t believe the nonsense claim that leather grips get tackier when wet - that’s only when they’re new and have the nice nap on them. They get progressively harder, thinner and slipperier in short time. If leather was that great, Tourna-Grip would never have made their millions of dollars in the 80’s. Also, the tournaments wouldn’t have needed to put all those chalk and sawdust boxes courtside for the pro’s during tournaments.
When i buy a racket i remove the base grip it comes with and add a leather grip, this makes the bevels basically feel the same as they do without the grip because the leather molds, then i add a wilson pro overgrip and it makes it a very bevely over grip. As a one handed backhand player and a eastern gripper this is very nice.
I see pictures of a few Pro Players in the 1970's and 1980's using tape over the leather grip then what looks like I am guessing using some kind of clay, chalk, soil/dirt, then for both brushing off excess and working in rest with water preferably something like a fully damp paper towel or a rag to remove that sticky feeling. I did this in one layer 1/4 overlapping spiral after overlapping on the top plastic part (using older aluminum) and gluing bottom end after seeing some pros tape ends coming undone, going with a waterproof super glue (sweat) over the stock grip which vinyl was peeling.
you can also make a video on how to know your racket specs :)
tk82, 4 1/4, hydrosorb pro(only love for this grip), and Wilson comfort or Babolat vs
I played also with two overgrips without grip and it's also good
When I look at Wawrinka's racket, I always ask myself if the Yonex overgrip is really that short?
The answer is yes, if you use a grip 4 or 5 lmao
My favorite replacement grip was from Volkl and was called Volkl V-Suede. They stopped making it much to my disappointment. I asked Volkl about this and they said they stopped production of this grip because it was a slow seller. This surprises me because it was such a great grip. This was an amazing grip. Jonas have you ever tried this grip? Any of you ever try it?
Jonas, if you like a tacky grip, give a try to the Tourna Mega Tac, very tacky and it last a lot..another that comes to mind is the Soderling true tac tour
Yes, those are good! 👍🏻
I tried all the big tacky ones recently,
Tourna Mega Tac
Dunlop Supertac
Wilson Pro
Gamma Supreme
Yonex
Gamma is my fav, a bit thicker and nicer feel, Gamma RZR Tac on the way
I didn't like black Gamma Supreme, but love the white one.
@@zahmikk try gamma rzr tack, its supposed to be even better
also a thing to note is that if you keep adding grips and overgrips to your racket, the weight and balance will change
Head hydro sorb pro is my fave also but a close second you should try is Gamma honeycomb grip. Very good feel and tacky and lasts a long time.
That gets a thumb up just for the cool name - honeycomb!
White grips seem to be tackier. Do you agree?
I scored a box of Toalson white over wraps and have been pleasantly surprised after using Bab over wraps for years.
Yes I agree
Head hydrosorb and Prince resi pro for me, with tourna grip over the top is awesome combination.
Agree about the basegrips, never got used to Tourna tho.
@@Tennisnerd I think Tourna like Marmite you either love or hate it.
Tried so many different Overgrips over the years and I'm always going back to Pacific X TACK Pro, a tacky overgrip with very good feel and by far the best durability on the market... You can easily play 15 hours with one grip and it's still very solid...
Is that a black Head Prestige racquet? Looks sweet!
Prewrap and 2 overgrips. Very sharp bevels
How does this work? I’m really interested in sharper bevela
@@corradoscire8670 don’t use an actual grip. 2 over grips only, and that soft stuff that goes under athletic tape to add bulk if needed.
@@joseppi4cinqua 2 overgrips? No replacement no leather just straight up 2 grips over the foam? Why not one?
@@corradoscire8670 you can try just one. Ive never tried it. Grip would be too thin for m
Oh wait I see what you mean. Replacing the overgrip over the foam messes up the foam too easily. Much easier to deal with an over grip then foam.
tourna tac is a great grip IMO
I agree. Used regular dry tourna grip for a long time and then one day I bought tourna tac on accident! Have enjoyed using is ever since! I use it on top of head hydrosorb pro, and it has pretty good durability
@@adamfrary6227 yep. i thought the pros were using the tourna tac instead of the tourna grip which they are using, and so I got tourna tac. never regretted that purchase
I used Wilson but when I discovered Pros Pro...I changed...always white and most similar possible to Wilsons...white?? You see clearly when you need to change them...xD....grip I used leather because I put lead tape on my racquets for balance but now I am not sure the weight be higher
I've tried many grips and grip setups and found a setup that's perfect for me (disclaimer: I'm *not* sponsored nor do I get kickbacks). I favor the Head type more rectangular grip shape, L3, and use a very thin Kimony leather grip with the Wilson Pro overgrip. I also use a couple GripYOU rubber rings on the grip under the overgrip to help me find my forehand and backhand grip positions (they help a lot with grip slippage).
could you talk about customazition. What u need to get started and the bases to know :) Loving this video
Sounds like a good idea
My favorite combo is also Head Hydrosorb Pro and Yonex Supergrap. Funny thing is I've been using Yonex Supergrap way before they were popular, tried them randomly many many years ago and I was like WOW. Now everyone and their aunts have them.
I usually play with wilson pro which is good as you know, but try out gamma supreme overgrip. I was really surprised its quality, adherance and longevility.
Great video!!
Thanks!
What does the volkl leather grip weigh? I just put a wilson leather on my racquet and it was 25grams. The cushion replacement grip that i took off was 15grams. I cant stand the tourna grip, they fall apart after 1 or 2 matches.
If you like thick cusion grips try stellar douline. Very sticky and comfy.
I always use leather base grip with a white wilson pro overgrip and pulled kind of tight to still feel the bevels
What is that black Head racquet you had in your hand, the one with the leather grip? It looks too thin to be the new Speed paint job...
Yes, I was wondering the same. Looks like pro stock prestige or something like that?
You refer to grip sizes 2, 2.5, 3, etc. How does that equate to the 4 1/4,
4 3/8, 4 1/2, and 4 5/8 sizing that I am accustomed to. Thank you.
L2 = 4 1/4
L3 = 4 3/8
L4 = 4 1/2
So on and so forth, tbh you could have just googled this lol
1 = 1/8
2 = 2/8 (1/4)
3 = 3/8
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Great video, which leather grip would you recommend to increase grip size? Which grips would be the thickest in your experience?
Was using synthetic replacement grips (with no overgrip). I have just started using Wilson overgrips on top of leather grips. Don't know what brand leather grip is on there. But I suspect that regardless of the brand of leather grip, the differences will be minor. i.e. it will mainly have the Wilson overgrip feeling regardless of what brand leather grip is underneath... I am not that picky and sensitive to the difference. Would you agree?
Your videos keep us going during covid man! Thank you so much.
Appreciate the feedback! Stay hard as David Goggins say
looking for weight of the following replacement grips:
head hydrosorb pro ( package says 18g but TW thread can't confirm)
wilson pro performance
babolat syntec
couldn't find the last 2 on TW
great video, thanks
Does grip size on tennis racket include base grip? Because its been a huge misunderstanding people buy racket that says 4 1/4 " but in reality its 4 3/8" with base grip.
Great video. I didn't know that the Head Pro Overgrip is a rebranded Tourna, I just assumed Murray has been using Tourna all this time. Do you know which Tourna is it correspond to is it the XL, XXL or the normal width? Thanks
One content idea: how to custom paint your racket
My 6.1 95 has a carbon fiber handle and is stock 365 grams. Is this a prostock handle
Hi. Is it the case that Yonex Racquets have a slightly bigger handle and use a slightly thinner (stock) grip?
I found that the diameter of a stock yonex grip with 2 over grips was about the same as a wilson Sublime Feel grip and a single overgrip.
Goodmorning. I like something less from Grip size 3 and something over size 2 on my wilson Clash (grip size 2) Suggest a combination to increase this grip (currently use the stock basic grip Wilson Pro Performance + wilson pro overgrip)
Greetings Tennisnerd! I’m planning to make a switch to the Head Radical Pro 2021,I’ve been using the Wilson ProStaff 97 with a 4 1/2 grip size, what grip size should I order if I would make a switch to the Head Radical Pro 2021? And will I experience major adjustments? Thanks🙏
IMHO Wilson pro is tackier than Yonex Super Grap. Read great stuff from Tecnifibre over grips. Even better than the other 2
In my experience, Wilson pro is a decent standard all around but the Yonex wins in the tackiness department for me. Also, the Yonex lasts longer for me as well. Meaning I can use the same grip for weeks on end even when most of the initial tack has worn down. Haven't tried any from T-fibre
@Tennisnerd Do you maybe know if there is the difference regarding butt caps on Head racquets? Is there a TK82 cap and TK82S cap or both are the same?
What about tourna tac or tourna mega tac?
hello I am used to playing with a Wilson Pro Staff and L3 size grip with one Wilson pro over grip. i have just recently purchased a Yonex Ezone 98 but was only available in G2. the grip is definitely different shape to Wilson as I can feel the difference. I have been told that Yonex have increased the Size of their Grips like the G2 is equivalent to a g3 in other brands like head and Wilson. Do you know if this is true? But if it actually true to size and is smaller would you recommend applying two over grips?
Is it possible to change palette if racket has foam handle? Fore example change handle on Technifibre TF40 to head palette?
You can, but you need to destroy the foam grip first and that is usually better left for the pros
I dont know why I feel my grip size is lower on one single hand drive and I need more grip size for the backhand
It’s common! Two different strokes and grips
Surely if you put an overgrip over the leather it won’t give you blisters?
It's still pretty harsh on the hand
Hi Jonas, I m now switching to resi soft and xcelgel to increase the grip size.
Some says it s worthy for arm pain.
Do you agree?
Hi Marco, yes the grip is important for comfort 👍🏻
@Tennisnerd Do you find the black tackier(harder on the skin) than the white ones? I ran out of white and the black ones are trashing my hand. Hopefully I am not a crazy person
I think they are harder on the skin, yes! You are not crazy (but maybe I am!)
I've been trying for years to increase my grip size to 5 1/2 without losing bevels. I've tried everything. Any suggestions? I play with Wilson Burn LS 100. THANK YOU 😊
Hi. Balsa wood, thin plastic, thin fiberglass net used for drywalls.
Black electrical tape if you pull it tight it keeps the bevels.
Did you paint your pro tour 2.0 black?
No, that’s an old Pro Tour 630 that has been blacked-out
@@Tennisnerd did you paint it yourself? How much did it change the static weight?
great
Super Grap white is the best period.
Man Jonas, I like the previous and classic intro music. Switch back Jonas
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