It’s 100% a perspective problem when people argue there is little money in Pokémon investing. Most people are expecting some quick fast flip and don’t have the patience to be sitting on sealed product for literal years. Yes, if you want to try and flip a booster box within a month or 12 months, this isn’t the investment space for that. Pokémon is the blue chip of the cardboard world, buy a case, sit on it. It’s literally the easiest thing to do. Will it appreciate by 7% a year when it’s first released? No. But there will be a time in 3-5 years where the box will double or triple in value. That’s where the gains are.
I decided I wanted to start collecting again and looked up the last time I got into it which was undaunted hgss. Every set from that time is worth 2k+ today. I don't see why something like that shouldn't happen to modern sets in 15 years when another 4 generations have passed and people are complaining about how they ruined Quaquavels design with the newest game.
@@daringiconoclast6547 absolutely correct. Last time I was really into Pokémon card collecting was Evolutions. My mates used to go halves in booster boxes. They probably ripped close to 10 of them. They are blown away when I mention the price of them today, or team up. I loved team up and ripped a bunch of it……
151 is just over half a year old - almost every single Illustration Rare, Full Art and Special Illustration Rare is $20+ - even if they reprint it into the ground, it'll absorb it and keep steamrolling. It's a fantastic set and the japanese version is even better.
As someone who couldn’t care less about the monetary/financial incentive in this hobby and would prefer (if at all possible, which isn’t of course) that all cards were $1, I have to say that you had a fine response here! I can respect investors when they believe what they are talking about and it’s not about “the short”; but I can even more so respect the ones that clearly enjoy this hobby… which imo, you clearly do! Have a good one, bro!
@@mtv565 Of course, I note that I know it’s not possible; and I understand that value in them must be retained to a certain degree to keep them “worth” circulating for the hobby. Otherwise, they’re getting trashed/forgotten. I just think that the level it’s gotten to in the past few years is untenable at best and downright greedy at worst. I say this as someone who could liquidate my collection for half of a million btw… I don’t like it. Plain & simple. Players first, collector’s second if not equal to players (the non trophy/extremely rare collector variety to be clear), and those who want to make some side/beer money should be able to make said money, but it shouldn’t be at the insane levels it’s at now. I’m referring more to raw/graded card flippers when I say that as well. Sealed collection with the intent of making money later down the rode imo is fair game as long as they aren’t buying up 50% of the stock and hoarding it. While people are free to do that, there’s a “gentleman’s agreement” element to this mix and someone who goes and drops 5+ million into ES BB would be a complete asshat and just downright rude, lol. Free to do it, but it’s scalping at that point in most people’s eyes. Regarding raw/graded flippers; I’m all for people making some extra money to help pay the bills and such but when you have people making enough to support a family of 4 and all that they do is flip heavily expensive cardboard that are set cards? Nah… that’s just basically a select set of people back and forth trading big ticket items (in this case cards) never for anyone to truly enjoy or appreciate them. It is stocks. In this instance though, the aforementioned most important aspects of the hobby [Read: Players & Collector’s] are being pushed out when the product isn’t even scarce! As I allude to a few sentence back, Trophy cards and that really rare stuff? Sure, those can work and be understandably sought after in this case. Set cards for a playing/TRADING card game? Come on… that’s just ridiculous on the face of it. It will correct itself though as one good thing about there being so many sets, it’s ALMOST theoretically impossible for every set/card to be at such a high demand all at one time for it to push out the vast majority of the hobbyists. You just gotta watch for good deals, you know, like with anything in life, lol. That’s all I’ve got for now on that though. Y’all have a good one!
I am so happy Pokemon investing is such a fun way to invest in yourself and your collector self. My friends laughed when they heard I spent 700 CAD on a Evo Skies box, but had now shot up to 950 CAD!
Great response mate. Your integrity is a big reason why so many of us trust your opinion. The 151 reprint was always going to happen. Pokemon said they would print this set to demand. I find it strange why everyone seems so surprised about the reprint. I am personally pumped i can pick it up for 150-160 now. Patience is a virtue.
Why does the PokeSloz not talk about English 151? I find it somewhat bizarre this joker is all about Japanese 151 investing like the rest of them but what about English singles which would see better futures? The narrative says wouldn't allow for that right? Actual real data instead of your fake misleading data for once? You are not about investing Oz you are a scammer.
@nativeretrospective6931 man, at this stage I can't figure out whether you're fair dinkum or trolling. I dedicated a full video to English 151 and how it is the one scarlet and violet set bucking the trend and its a good investment. Does Japanese have the edge with two extra SARs and masterball reverses, yes. Is English 151 investable, also yes. Will print run hamper japanese over English? Will English 151 also get reprinted? Time will tell on those questions.
@@nativeretrospective6931 your tripping bro. He is not scamming anyone. It's his opinion. He is not asking for your money. Japanese 151 masterballs can sell for over a thousand dollars. It's a more investable option than the English set long term, in my opinion. I don't really get what your trying to argue here?
VERY good video. You spit market's ultimate truth that is obvious for some but for retail investor; hearing this might be very comforting. I think ppl also panic because of Pokemon's youtubers doing clickbait thumbnails and they put too much trust in you all. As long as u won't educate yourself and do research >>>yourself
It is funny to hear the rhetoric being spewed like this when I am seeing results in the realm of 600%. There will always be rhetoric like this mindless chatter that do not want you investing in Pokemon right now. Singles right now in Crown Zenith and 151 have the upmost potential better than any future forecast I have in my calculations. Your opinion that is a nightmare my opinion it is an opportunity of a lifetime we do not get many chances like this especially with a set like Pokemon 151. Just a matter of time before reality will hit Oz and he can't deny it anymore. Keep your cope I will keep my 151 thank you for your literal two cents mindset. They will always tell you to invest in other things when we have a trove before us, we are just beginning.
Bummer that you couldn't make it to the "debate" yesterday. It would, of course, been nice to hear your experience and thoughts on the subject. Glad you made the time to share them here with us. And thanks for keeping it respectful, as always!
Well said Michael, you’re both great content creators. I like watching you and JLuv, you both produce quality content and give different perspectives of the hobby. Top stuff mate🤙
Scalpers suck in all forms of consumerism for sure, but they are just creating more volume ultimately increasing the value of pokemon cards in the long-run, feeding the company with an abundance of allocation. Do I scalp? no. Do I hate scalpers? Yes. But if they want to help pump value in the end it is a good thing for collectors/investors in the longrun.
Deception tactic approved, scammers will be scamming. Beware when listening to these guys on "investing" advice. It is not what you are lead to believe.
They will protect one another, its part of the game. When someone questions what they are actually doing here they half to protect their racket. He has not established anything or answered any of my legitimate questions about how this business operates. I mean this is a business right Oz? All these apparatuses are business masked as investing channels. In reality your business is a scam you habe provided no proof that you know anything you are talking about. This sounds like a parrrot account obvious red flags and many questions unanswered. This channel is not what anybody is lead to believe.
I think at the end of the day these people know damn well it's a good investment, they just for some reason don't like it and like to try and persuade people not to do it
Same happens in Magic as well, they are all above a certain age and all act the same way very predictable. Mislead mislead and when reality sets in its all about cope. This is why nobody is talking about 151 and whomever is seems scared to do so. Bizarre to say the least considering it is the investment of the year. Oz here is in cope world and will try to say I'm wrong. Yawn you guys are idiots.
@nativeretrospective6931 I'm not sure what your point is, man. It's hard to gauge it through all the insults. Are you saying English 151 is a better investment than Japanese?
@@nativeretrospective6931 If you don't believe in investing in this stuff then why are you watching this channel? And what do you mean no one's talking about 151? Given 151's popularity it would be astonishing to see the English set not get reprinted, and I won't be picking any up until then (other than the couple of cases of PC ETBs I bought at retail as I knew they'd sell out fast) If you're talking about Japanese 151 I'll probably pick some up during this month's reprint depending on how low it goes. As for SwSh boxes I'm seriously happy with the gains I've made so far and these things are literally just selling out now! Making some very nice gains on alt arts too! I can promise you I'm not "misleading" you this is fact!
@@nativeretrospective6931 If you don't believe in investing in this stuff then why are you watching this channel? What do you mean no one's talking about about 151? Given 151's popularity it would be astonishing to see the English set not get reprinted and I won't be picking any up until then (other than the couple of cases of PC ETBs that I bought as I knew they'd sell out fast) If you're talking about Japanese 151 then I'll probably pick some up during this month's reprint depending on how low it goes. As for SwSh boxes I'm seriously happy with the gains I've made so far! Seen some nice gains on alt arts too! I can promise I'm not "misleading" you, this is fact!
I love this video. You backed up every point with facts rather than getting upset. I loved how Collin did it as well. I disagree with one thing you said. You said there is only one group of people that doesn’t belong in the hobby. I believe all the negative people that keep tearing people down also don’t belong. I have invested safe and volatile stocks and I have lost money. I have also made money as well. You can’t say stocks are safer than Pokémon because anything can go up and anything can go down. I love how you say investing in pokemon is the fun part of your investment and should not be where you put all your investment money in. I know there’s people out there that have tried investing and they’ve lost money or maybe they just like to tear people down. This guy is feeling this negative contact to tear others down and to get views. If you don’t like the content don’t watch. You don’t need to be negative. I love the content here because it’s fair it’s realistic and I we never you say that anything is 100% guaranteed. I will end with this; very rare are there booster boxes that don’t increase in price after a year period. Things go up simply because there is nothing left and demand for the product has increased.
I collect Blister packs (XY SM SWSH) also tins, mini tins (CZ mini tin display boxes for example) huge opportunity with those with the Charizard & Marnie tins being worth more than the other tins. Got 4 of those displays for $40 a box 🔥 I actually have zero booster boxes. The reason is, I truly collect what I love. If I don't really like it, I'm not investing in it. That's really how you do it. Otherwise you will be losing sleep haha.
There'll always be demand for those too. Down the track when booster boxes reach huge heights, people can still buy a few tins to open of those saught after sets!
@@pokeoz91 absolutely man. And hey, keep being you. You seem like a down to earth, humble guy. I respect that. Don't let anything get to your head. I love your takes and opinions. They usually always align with mine. And you know what they say... Great minds think alike 😎
But what's the real difference between an investor and a scalper? Time? Both create artificial demand and keep cards out of the hands of "real" consumers.
Investors buy when there’s 3-4 years worth of stock at msrp or less meaning the “real consumer” can also purchase or ‘invest’ scalpers buy out the market as soon as stock is released thus influencing the market 👍🏻
I like to think of it in reference to the share market. Day traders v traditional investors. Traditional investors are focused on the overall fundamentals of the company, whereas as day traders will pump stocks and sell instantly. Much the same as pokemon investors are focused on the long term performance of a set and the fundamentals of the set, where as scalpers buy out the product and re sell to other consumers at an inflated price, that couldn't otherwise get it.
Time of day, poke oz is living on another planet with that explanation, that's like a a purple pill or something absolutely insane take. There is no difference its just dumb rhetoric and narrative.
Can't accept reality? You know this is trash how old are you and you believe this regurgitated trash? Sorry mate but I do not fall in line with the brainwashed or the sheeple. I see exactly what is going on here. Oz has not answered any of my questions. He is hiding he tried to use ridicule but he know that will not work. It is possum mode now. Parrot mode is over.
While I'd rather there not be scalpers I still understand why some people do it. Times are hard, people are trying to scrape extra cash in. The big scalping consortiums are a bit weird but I don't mind if someone does a bit of flipping to put food on the table.
its a free market . I dont care what ppl do with their money. If they want to take giant risk and buy it all up. Who am I to tell them what to do? But thats just me and i wont argue w anyone bc we all have our own opinions. thats all they are The only ppl I dont like are those who are using products to alter or enhance cards or submissions and are deceiving their customers. We have no idea what some of these products will do to the cards long term. . but again thats just my opinion! We all have doubts on your plays. If we didnt we would not be human. No matter how long youve been in the game
Exactly right mate, I do agree with Jluv that there's so many channels presenting numbers/advice now. We all just need to make our own calls based off advice 👌
I think you’re very considerate in the industry of sales. Perhaps it’s a bit influenced by being involved with product that is in demand both at work and with your hobby. You can then focus more on educating buyers. I suppose okJLUV may be talking about selling for the wrong reasons - like scalpers, except targeting any TH-camr wrongly selling investment advice, but he doesn’t really know what you’re about. I think there’s a place for investing in collectables and there’s information to be shared about that which I think is what your channel is about. I think you believe in what you say and it resonates with the audience’s rationalisation rather than it just being what they want to hear. Including sensationalizations about making people rich.
I'm glad that not everyone agrees or believes in Pokémon investing. I see the astronomical gains that certain sets hit after a certain amount of time. Literally the same thing as a stock investment maturing over time but with a tangible item in your hand. Its like buying property, you do so on the low. I bought a property when I thought it was at its low but it dipped $60,000 more after I bought. Only a quick flipper would panic. I was in it for the long run and now have seen 272.92% gains. If I bought into Pokémon Platinum Booster boxes which came out the same year as I bought my property those boxes since have gained approximately 7900%. No you cannot live in a Booster box but those who keep saying that Pokémon is not an investment just aren't looking at the numbers.
Fascinating! Agree that it takes huge amount of effort to sell. But, imagine a day where some smart pants figured out a way to address this huedle in the future, paying the way for more investors to move into pokemon. A tiny 0.1% allocation by institutional funds would make Rudy look like peanuts in comparison.
Good video as always. Been following for couple months now and your vids are always fun to watch. Thanks for all the efford you put into your videos. Hope you reach 100k subs because i think you deserve it heck even million😅.
Great response vid Oz. I do wish there was an opportunity for you to have an open discussion in real time with JLuv and NostalgiaNomics so maybe yall revisit that in the future. Also be aure to take most of this with a grain of salt. You can only be as honest and earnest as you have been. You can only present data and facts as much as you have been. If people wanto hear that information, disregard it and assume malintent with little or no proof/data to support their position, unfortunately theres nothing you can do about it. We appreciate you 🤙
If i can make the comparison to crypto.. its all about homework and understanding. With crypto, the people that take the time to understand the tokenomics of a project usually make wise bets, and money thereafter. Conversely, those that ape in at the height of markets once its close to its peak lose out. With Pokemon its the same. Once you begin to understand the cycles sets go through on release, and the sets that stand out, it becomes quite easy to park money where itll grow. For instance, it was pretty plain to see sets like Chilling, Fusion, and Lost Origin were undervalued with beautiful alts that were in demand and hard to pull. I bought booster cases of each at around a $120 per box average. Now theyve sold out, now they grow. Find the stand out sets with stand out arts and tough pull rates. Buy, hold, rinse, repeat. 🤷♂️🤟
Listen, I love pokemon and I have a huge collection, but all of these prices are at the whim of the market just like anything else. Pokemon could reprint all of sword and shield tomorrow and destroy the market; conversely it may never be printed again and the prices now could be super low compared to another year of growth. Hindsight is always 20/20. Ultimately I never spend more than I am willing to lose on pokemon cards that is just a good rule for me.
It's definitely more of a speculation than an investment. You're right about not putting in what you can't afford! It's good fun though if you follow that rule.
Appreciate that mate. He's several levels above me, though! 🐐🐐
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I watched most of the stream. It was OK. CTR was interesting to hear toward the end. I dont watch all of his stuff, but he is damn entertaining. The loose tie guy and the I collect cardboard dude seem like they would be cool to have a beer with. I enjoy Nomics content and cant disagree with his longer term strat, he just isnt super charasmatic. Not his fault really, he seems like a nice enough guy. I dont blame him for feeling the need to defend himself repeatedly. The Aussie guy seems like a smarmy bloke that just stirs the pot but really dosent offer anything of value (oh no I said value). Maybe thats just his shtick. OBud likes to talk shit and he is good at it. Colin = a big goofy kid that loves Pokemon. I watch some of all of them and enjoy the stories and opinions. It was content. Thats what I learned. Oh, and some dude has a giant warehouse filled to the roof with sealed. Thats a pretty good summary. Always enjoy the content OZ. Keep up the joy.
Seems harsh that you've been in both Jluv and Opposums videos on this topic when you constantly talk about risk and the 5% rule. I wonder if they've ever watched one of your videos. 🤔
You must be a good carsalesman. Where i live in Ottawa, dealership are owned by few huge names. And since this is a government city, they dont lower the prices like Toronto or smaller towns. Some of thr salesman that been in the business also assholes and the managers as well. Worled in detail section in this day and age, they still have to clean brand new cars by hand when others have automated washers in their dealerships. I also hate ghat $3500 cad warranty they trick customers to finance. Such a huge rip off on brand new cars. But anyways hopefully you like that in this business, i see pokemon is something that helps get you away from your day job and yo enjoy your hobby! Where its at, keep going!
Very keen observation, Oz here is well aware of all his own deception tactics and sales tactics played here. He must do very well in sales obviously he is really good if he is pouring it into Pokemon. Another key factor is his ego, all salesmen have it no matter what. Oz here will not like the fact he will half to operate with the knowledge that we know what tactics he is employing. Very very deceptive behavior coming from our car salesman here. Remember he is good at up selling you but bad at actual real-time data. I would like to know how much he does a year in cars but his deception might not allow it.
@@pokeoz91 my former taxation tutor from uni told me that the cost of a purchase is apportioned when selling also so technically if you paid A$999.99 for a case of LO, you could sell 3 boxes ($499.995) and avoid CGT altogether. Pretty sweet!
Exactly no real.data presented now we do see. Not in Ozs fantasy world the real numbers would never add up. Its a false narrative promoted as factual and when questionijg the creators intentions the is no logical answer but one that comes from ego. Some of us are not blind or sheeple, the sales tactics here are subpar.
Evolutions was printed for over 4 years.. Hidden fates had multiple waves of tins and etbs reprinted 3/4 years after its initial release.. Ultra prism got a reprint (albeit it small) after the set was out of rotation. Unbroken bonds also got a smaller wave release. S&M base etbs got restocked on Pokemon center 4 years after its release.. Also team up and celestial storm had briefly popped up years after rotation just before the s&m base etbs dropped… There’s 5 examples 😜
Egos are hurt, a little perspective PokeOz is not a financial expert nor TCG expert but parades around like the rest of them with false data and narratives. Remember people this old content creator is a salesman, his goal is to sell his channel and his BS ideals. His goal is to mislead not to help you in your investing journey. These people.are coping everyday why does this joker not talk about 151 or Crown Zenith? He wants to sell you into hype into highs it's a scammer tactic.
Pretty straight forward there old mate. Hold product and it will go up. Buy on the lows and sell on the highs. Simple straight forward tactic! How is this a scammer view? lol 🤡🤡
Wtf pokeoz isn’t a scammer. 😂He’s a knowledgeable nice guy. He isn’t misleading anybody.. he gives great advice and insight into the Pokemon investing hobby.
PokeOz in all his great gen x wisdom will never say to buy a PSA 10 Umbreon Vmax Alt Art. It goes against his business model, it goes against everything they stand for and promote. Actual blue chip Pokemon investing is a thing, I know you ozzys are just going to cope and protect your little golden goose but I am not fooled nor impressed. Lots of hidden data right now that's for sure.
@nativeretrospective6931 Bringing in a lot of insults without any substance. Generation I was born in, country of origin. None of these have anything to do with the topic. What's your investing strategy? If we can get on topic, without insultive rhetoric. You mentioned PSA 10 Umbreon. Do you invest in graded singles?
PokeOz the type of guy to stop at a red light playing GTA
Haha was just playing some vice city on ps2 actually 😎
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Idk when these comments started but some of them are hilarious 🤣
It’s 100% a perspective problem when people argue there is little money in Pokémon investing. Most people are expecting some quick fast flip and don’t have the patience to be sitting on sealed product for literal years. Yes, if you want to try and flip a booster box within a month or 12 months, this isn’t the investment space for that.
Pokémon is the blue chip of the cardboard world, buy a case, sit on it. It’s literally the easiest thing to do. Will it appreciate by 7% a year when it’s first released? No. But there will be a time in 3-5 years where the box will double or triple in value. That’s where the gains are.
Yep, and timing that is part of noticing the trends! Thanks for tuning in man.
I decided I wanted to start collecting again and looked up the last time I got into it which was undaunted hgss. Every set from that time is worth 2k+ today. I don't see why something like that shouldn't happen to modern sets in 15 years when another 4 generations have passed and people are complaining about how they ruined Quaquavels design with the newest game.
@@daringiconoclast6547 absolutely correct. Last time I was really into Pokémon card collecting was Evolutions. My mates used to go halves in booster boxes. They probably ripped close to 10 of them. They are blown away when I mention the price of them today, or team up. I loved team up and ripped a bunch of it……
151 is just over half a year old - almost every single Illustration Rare, Full Art and Special Illustration Rare is $20+ - even if they reprint it into the ground, it'll absorb it and keep steamrolling. It's a fantastic set and the japanese version is even better.
Completely agree mate!
Even some of the "bulk" cards are over $1. I actually basically got the value out of my box opening it even though my best card is Masterball Mr. Mime
As someone who couldn’t care less about the monetary/financial incentive in this hobby and would prefer (if at all possible, which isn’t of course) that all cards were $1, I have to say that you had a fine response here!
I can respect investors when they believe what they are talking about and it’s not about “the short”; but I can even more so respect the ones that clearly enjoy this hobby… which imo, you clearly do!
Have a good one, bro!
Appreciate that man!
Not possible that all cards are a dollar each, even each person earns a varying salary, from a dollar a month to a million a month!
@@mtv565 Of course, I note that I know it’s not possible; and I understand that value in them must be retained to a certain degree to keep them “worth” circulating for the hobby. Otherwise, they’re getting trashed/forgotten.
I just think that the level it’s gotten to in the past few years is untenable at best and downright greedy at worst.
I say this as someone who could liquidate my collection for half of a million btw… I don’t like it. Plain & simple. Players first, collector’s second if not equal to players (the non trophy/extremely rare collector variety to be clear), and those who want to make some side/beer money should be able to make said money, but it shouldn’t be at the insane levels it’s at now.
I’m referring more to raw/graded card flippers when I say that as well. Sealed collection with the intent of making money later down the rode imo is fair game as long as they aren’t buying up 50% of the stock and hoarding it.
While people are free to do that, there’s a “gentleman’s agreement” element to this mix and someone who goes and drops 5+ million into ES BB would be a complete asshat and just downright rude, lol. Free to do it, but it’s scalping at that point in most people’s eyes.
Regarding raw/graded flippers; I’m all for people making some extra money to help pay the bills and such but when you have people making enough to support a family of 4 and all that they do is flip heavily expensive cardboard that are set cards? Nah… that’s just basically a select set of people back and forth trading big ticket items (in this case cards) never for anyone to truly enjoy or appreciate them. It is stocks. In this instance though, the aforementioned most important aspects of the hobby [Read: Players & Collector’s] are being pushed out when the product isn’t even scarce!
As I allude to a few sentence back, Trophy cards and that really rare stuff? Sure, those can work and be understandably sought after in this case. Set cards for a playing/TRADING card game? Come on… that’s just ridiculous on the face of it.
It will correct itself though as one good thing about there being so many sets, it’s ALMOST theoretically impossible for every set/card to be at such a high demand all at one time for it to push out the vast majority of the hobbyists. You just gotta watch for good deals, you know, like with anything in life, lol.
That’s all I’ve got for now on that though. Y’all have a good one!
OZ Jluv Nostalgia & Possum... man that would have been a hell of a pod
Shame I couldn't make it. Sounds like they're going live tomorrow morning now at 9:30 AEST. And once again, I'm at work 😵💫
@@pokeoz91take the day off!!! You’d be a great addition to that video
I am so happy Pokemon investing is such a fun way to invest in yourself and your collector self. My friends laughed when they heard I spent 700 CAD on a Evo Skies box, but had now shot up to 950 CAD!
That's awesome mate!
Great response mate. Your integrity is a big reason why so many of us trust your opinion.
The 151 reprint was always going to happen. Pokemon said they would print this set to demand. I find it strange why everyone seems so surprised about the reprint. I am personally pumped i can pick it up for 150-160 now. Patience is a virtue.
Thanks heaps legend! Agree 100%
Why does the PokeSloz not talk about English 151? I find it somewhat bizarre this joker is all about Japanese 151 investing like the rest of them but what about English singles which would see better futures? The narrative says wouldn't allow for that right? Actual real data instead of your fake misleading data for once? You are not about investing Oz you are a scammer.
@nativeretrospective6931 man, at this stage I can't figure out whether you're fair dinkum or trolling. I dedicated a full video to English 151 and how it is the one scarlet and violet set bucking the trend and its a good investment. Does Japanese have the edge with two extra SARs and masterball reverses, yes. Is English 151 investable, also yes. Will print run hamper japanese over English? Will English 151 also get reprinted? Time will tell on those questions.
@@nativeretrospective6931 your tripping bro. He is not scamming anyone. It's his opinion. He is not asking for your money.
Japanese 151 masterballs can sell for over a thousand dollars. It's a more investable option than the English set long term, in my opinion.
I don't really get what your trying to argue here?
@@pokeoz91Don't listen to this troll man keep doing what you're doing. Your content is open, honest and excellent 👌
VERY good video. You spit market's ultimate truth that is obvious for some but for retail investor; hearing this might be very comforting. I think ppl also panic because of Pokemon's youtubers doing clickbait thumbnails and they put too much trust in you all. As long as u won't educate yourself and do research >>>yourself
It is funny to hear the rhetoric being spewed like this when I am seeing results in the realm of 600%. There will always be rhetoric like this mindless chatter that do not want you investing in Pokemon right now. Singles right now in Crown Zenith and 151 have the upmost potential better than any future forecast I have in my calculations. Your opinion that is a nightmare my opinion it is an opportunity of a lifetime we do not get many chances like this especially with a set like Pokemon 151. Just a matter of time before reality will hit Oz and he can't deny it anymore. Keep your cope I will keep my 151 thank you for your literal two cents mindset. They will always tell you to invest in other things when we have a trove before us, we are just beginning.
100% great advice, thanks for commenting 👌
Bummer that you couldn't make it to the "debate" yesterday. It would, of course, been nice to hear your experience and thoughts on the subject. Glad you made the time to share them here with us. And thanks for keeping it respectful, as always!
Appreciate it mate, I believe it's going ahead this morning now. And of course I'll be at the day job again.
Im a poke investor and proud of it.❤
That's awesome mate!
Well said Michael, you’re both great content creators.
I like watching you and JLuv, you both produce quality content and give different perspectives of the hobby.
Top stuff mate🤙
Thanks heaps mate! I look forward to seeing the video with okjluv, nostalgia nomics and opposum bud!
Scalpers suck in all forms of consumerism for sure, but they are just creating more volume ultimately increasing the value of pokemon cards in the long-run, feeding the company with an abundance of allocation. Do I scalp? no. Do I hate scalpers? Yes. But if they want to help pump value in the end it is a good thing for collectors/investors in the longrun.
A fair point mate 👌
I was waiting for your response Oz! Love your rational and level headed approach here.
Good to see a new video man!
Deception tactic approved, scammers will be scamming. Beware when listening to these guys on "investing" advice. It is not what you are lead to believe.
@@nativeretrospective6931 Thanks for your input bud! But Oz is a personal friend of mine, and he’s not a scammer. Take a chill pill and simmer down
Thanks, heaps legend. Look forward to the next podcast!
They will protect one another, its part of the game. When someone questions what they are actually doing here they half to protect their racket. He has not established anything or answered any of my legitimate questions about how this business operates. I mean this is a business right Oz? All these apparatuses are business masked as investing channels. In reality your business is a scam you habe provided no proof that you know anything you are talking about. This sounds like a parrrot account obvious red flags and many questions unanswered. This channel is not what anybody is lead to believe.
I think at the end of the day these people know damn well it's a good investment, they just for some reason don't like it and like to try and persuade people not to do it
We're not saying put the mortgage on it, but it's the funnest investment I've ever had!
Same happens in Magic as well, they are all above a certain age and all act the same way very predictable. Mislead mislead and when reality sets in its all about cope. This is why nobody is talking about 151 and whomever is seems scared to do so. Bizarre to say the least considering it is the investment of the year. Oz here is in cope world and will try to say I'm wrong. Yawn you guys are idiots.
@nativeretrospective6931 I'm not sure what your point is, man. It's hard to gauge it through all the insults. Are you saying English 151 is a better investment than Japanese?
@@nativeretrospective6931 If you don't believe in investing in this stuff then why are you watching this channel? And what do you mean no one's talking about 151?
Given 151's popularity it would be astonishing to see the English set not get reprinted, and I won't be picking any up until then (other than the couple of cases of PC ETBs I bought at retail as I knew they'd sell out fast) If you're talking about Japanese 151 I'll probably pick some up during this month's reprint depending on how low it goes.
As for SwSh boxes I'm seriously happy with the gains I've made so far and these things are literally just selling out now! Making some very nice gains on alt arts too! I can promise you I'm not "misleading" you this is fact!
@@nativeretrospective6931 If you don't believe in investing in this stuff then why are you watching this channel? What do you mean no one's talking about about 151? Given 151's popularity it would be astonishing to see the English set not get reprinted and I won't be picking any up until then (other than the couple of cases of PC ETBs that I bought as I knew they'd sell out fast)
If you're talking about Japanese 151 then I'll probably pick some up during this month's reprint depending on how low it goes.
As for SwSh boxes I'm seriously happy with the gains I've made so far! Seen some nice gains on alt arts too!
I can promise I'm not "misleading" you, this is fact!
Great video mate! Enjoyed your perspective🔥
Thanks, mate! I had a listen to yours as well, well said 👌
You're famous! Great publicity for the channel :)
Always happy to debate pokemon investing 😌
Hit the nail on the head there mate! Keep up the great videos. Keep buying 151!!!!
Thanks legend!
I love this video. You backed up every point with facts rather than getting upset. I loved how Collin did it as well. I disagree with one thing you said. You said there is only one group of people that doesn’t belong in the hobby. I believe all the negative people that keep tearing people down also don’t belong. I have invested safe and volatile stocks and I have lost money. I have also made money as well. You can’t say stocks are safer than Pokémon because anything can go up and anything can go down. I love how you say investing in pokemon is the fun part of your investment and should not be where you put all your investment money in. I know there’s people out there that have tried investing and they’ve lost money or maybe they just like to tear people down. This guy is feeling this negative contact to tear others down and to get views. If you don’t like the content don’t watch. You don’t need to be negative. I love the content here because it’s fair it’s realistic and I we never you say that anything is 100% guaranteed. I will end with this; very rare are there booster boxes that don’t increase in price after a year period. Things go up simply because there is nothing left and demand for the product has increased.
Very well said mate! 👌
He’s got the glasses on. Anybody trying to craptalk him automatically loses their argument. All class
Haha not sure it quite works like that but appreciate it bro 😅
I collect Blister packs (XY SM SWSH) also tins, mini tins (CZ mini tin display boxes for example) huge opportunity with those with the Charizard & Marnie tins being worth more than the other tins. Got 4 of those displays for $40 a box 🔥
I actually have zero booster boxes. The reason is, I truly collect what I love. If I don't really like it, I'm not investing in it. That's really how you do it. Otherwise you will be losing sleep haha.
There'll always be demand for those too. Down the track when booster boxes reach huge heights, people can still buy a few tins to open of those saught after sets!
@@pokeoz91 absolutely man. And hey, keep being you. You seem like a down to earth, humble guy. I respect that. Don't let anything get to your head. I love your takes and opinions. They usually always align with mine. And you know what they say... Great minds think alike 😎
But what's the real difference between an investor and a scalper? Time? Both create artificial demand and keep cards out of the hands of "real" consumers.
Investors buy when there’s 3-4 years worth of stock at msrp or less meaning the “real consumer” can also purchase or ‘invest’ scalpers buy out the market as soon as stock is released thus influencing the market 👍🏻
I like to think of it in reference to the share market. Day traders v traditional investors. Traditional investors are focused on the overall fundamentals of the company, whereas as day traders will pump stocks and sell instantly. Much the same as pokemon investors are focused on the long term performance of a set and the fundamentals of the set, where as scalpers buy out the product and re sell to other consumers at an inflated price, that couldn't otherwise get it.
Time of day, poke oz is living on another planet with that explanation, that's like a a purple pill or something absolutely insane take. There is no difference its just dumb rhetoric and narrative.
@@nativeretrospective6931 omg who hurt you?? Your either a hater or a troll, either way you should probably just move on
Can't accept reality? You know this is trash how old are you and you believe this regurgitated trash? Sorry mate but I do not fall in line with the brainwashed or the sheeple. I see exactly what is going on here. Oz has not answered any of my questions. He is hiding he tried to use ridicule but he know that will not work. It is possum mode now. Parrot mode is over.
While I'd rather there not be scalpers I still understand why some people do it. Times are hard, people are trying to scrape extra cash in. The big scalping consortiums are a bit weird but I don't mind if someone does a bit of flipping to put food on the table.
Yep, it happens everywhere when times get hard hey man. People will see opportunity in anything!
its a free market . I dont care what ppl do with their money. If they want to take giant risk and buy it all up. Who am I to tell them what to do? But thats just me and i wont argue w anyone bc we all have our own opinions. thats all they are
The only ppl I dont like are those who are using products to alter or enhance cards or submissions and are deceiving their customers. We have no idea what some of these products will do to the cards long term. . but again thats just my opinion!
We all have doubts on your plays. If we didnt we would not be human. No matter how long youve been in the game
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Exactly right mate, I do agree with Jluv that there's so many channels presenting numbers/advice now. We all just need to make our own calls based off advice 👌
I think you’re very considerate in the industry of sales. Perhaps it’s a bit influenced by being involved with product that is in demand both at work and with your hobby. You can then focus more on educating buyers. I suppose okJLUV may be talking about selling for the wrong reasons - like scalpers, except targeting any TH-camr wrongly selling investment advice, but he doesn’t really know what you’re about. I think there’s a place for investing in collectables and there’s information to be shared about that which I think is what your channel is about. I think you believe in what you say and it resonates with the audience’s rationalisation rather than it just being what they want to hear. Including sensationalizations about making people rich.
Yep, you've hit the nail on the head mate 👌
I hold onto just enough to make it fun. Don’t know how I’m going to unload it all in 5-10+ years but figure that out later
Nice work mate!
@pokeoz91 videos always fun to listen to in the morning on the way to work. See what others are doing and if my strategy is good or not.
I'm glad that not everyone agrees or believes in Pokémon investing. I see the astronomical gains that certain sets hit after a certain amount of time. Literally the same thing as a stock investment maturing over time but with a tangible item in your hand. Its like buying property, you do so on the low. I bought a property when I thought it was at its low but it dipped $60,000 more after I bought. Only a quick flipper would panic. I was in it for the long run and now have seen 272.92% gains. If I bought into Pokémon Platinum Booster boxes which came out the same year as I bought my property those boxes since have gained approximately 7900%. No you cannot live in a Booster box but those who keep saying that Pokémon is not an investment just aren't looking at the numbers.
Really good real world example there mate!
Fascinating! Agree that it takes huge amount of effort to sell. But, imagine a day where some smart pants figured out a way to address this huedle in the future, paying the way for more investors to move into pokemon. A tiny 0.1% allocation by institutional funds would make Rudy look like peanuts in comparison.
Rudy, the goat 🐐 oh mate, imagine!
Awesome video as always Oz! Keep it up! ❤
Thanks a ton!
Thanks for making this video. Should clear everything up
Glad it was helpful!
Only fools will say no to money (investing)!! 😂
Very true!
Good video as always. Been following for couple months now and your vids are always fun to watch. Thanks for all the efford you put into your videos. Hope you reach 100k subs because i think you deserve it heck even million😅.
Oh mate, that would be amazing! Thanks heaps 👌
Wonderful video!
Glad you liked it!
Great response vid Oz. I do wish there was an opportunity for you to have an open discussion in real time with JLuv and NostalgiaNomics so maybe yall revisit that in the future.
Also be aure to take most of this with a grain of salt. You can only be as honest and earnest as you have been. You can only present data and facts as much as you have been. If people wanto hear that information, disregard it and assume malintent with little or no proof/data to support their position, unfortunately theres nothing you can do about it.
We appreciate you 🤙
Appreciate that mate. The videos definitely won't stop and the love for the hobby definitely won't stop 😌
On fire with the uploads lately ✊🔥
I try to get out 3 a week bro but wanted to upload a response video 👌
I think most people assume pokemon is only for kids and thats why they cant justify the investment side of it.
I mean it was meant for kids. But those kids are now us, adults. And we've continued on creating a new element to the hobby! 👌
Pokeoz well said man 💙
Thanks, man!
If i can make the comparison to crypto.. its all about homework and understanding. With crypto, the people that take the time to understand the tokenomics of a project usually make wise bets, and money thereafter. Conversely, those that ape in at the height of markets once its close to its peak lose out.
With Pokemon its the same. Once you begin to understand the cycles sets go through on release, and the sets that stand out, it becomes quite easy to park money where itll grow. For instance, it was pretty plain to see sets like Chilling, Fusion, and Lost Origin were undervalued with beautiful alts that were in demand and hard to pull. I bought booster cases of each at around a $120 per box average. Now theyve sold out, now they grow.
Find the stand out sets with stand out arts and tough pull rates. Buy, hold, rinse, repeat. 🤷♂️🤟
Very well said mate 👏
@@pokeoz91 thank you! Keep up the great content.
Listen, I love pokemon and I have a huge collection, but all of these prices are at the whim of the market just like anything else. Pokemon could reprint all of sword and shield tomorrow and destroy the market; conversely it may never be printed again and the prices now could be super low compared to another year of growth. Hindsight is always 20/20. Ultimately I never spend more than I am willing to lose on pokemon cards that is just a good rule for me.
That's a great philosophy mate!
It's definitely more of a speculation than an investment. You're right about not putting in what you can't afford! It's good fun though if you follow that rule.
You and Alpha investment Rudy is all I follow
Appreciate that mate. He's several levels above me, though! 🐐🐐
I watched most of the stream. It was OK. CTR was interesting to hear toward the end. I dont watch all of his stuff, but he is damn entertaining. The loose tie guy and the I collect cardboard dude seem like they would be cool to have a beer with. I enjoy Nomics content and cant disagree with his longer term strat, he just isnt super charasmatic. Not his fault really, he seems like a nice enough guy. I dont blame him for feeling the need to defend himself repeatedly. The Aussie guy seems like a smarmy bloke that just stirs the pot but really dosent offer anything of value (oh no I said value). Maybe thats just his shtick. OBud likes to talk shit and he is good at it. Colin = a big goofy kid that loves Pokemon. I watch some of all of them and enjoy the stories and opinions. It was content. Thats what I learned. Oh, and some dude has a giant warehouse filled to the roof with sealed. Thats a pretty good summary. Always enjoy the content OZ. Keep up the joy.
Glad you enjoyed it. Disappointed I couldn't join!
Lets go baby! Fire hype crazy wild
Let's go!
Thank you sir
You're welcome!
5% of my equity is $38. We are winning people 😂
Hahaha man 😅
I’m gonna start a go fund me to get you that team up BB my ocd needs to see it with the rest of your SM collection lol
Hahaha that's so good man!
Great video as always mate!
Thanks a ton!
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Seems harsh that you've been in both Jluv and Opposums videos on this topic when you constantly talk about risk and the 5% rule. I wonder if they've ever watched one of your videos. 🤔
I'm not sure, possibly not. It would have been great to catch up with them both this morning. Another time 👌
well spoken gent
Thank you sir!
You must be a good carsalesman. Where i live in Ottawa, dealership are owned by few huge names. And since this is a government city, they dont lower the prices like Toronto or smaller towns. Some of thr salesman that been in the business also assholes and the managers as well. Worled in detail section in this day and age, they still have to clean brand new cars by hand when others have automated washers in their dealerships. I also hate ghat $3500 cad warranty they trick customers to finance. Such a huge rip off on brand new cars.
But anyways hopefully you like that in this business, i see pokemon is something that helps get you away from your day job and yo enjoy your hobby!
Where its at, keep going!
Very keen observation, Oz here is well aware of all his own deception tactics and sales tactics played here. He must do very well in sales obviously he is really good if he is pouring it into Pokemon. Another key factor is his ego, all salesmen have it no matter what. Oz here will not like the fact he will half to operate with the knowledge that we know what tactics he is employing. Very very deceptive behavior coming from our car salesman here. Remember he is good at up selling you but bad at actual real-time data. I would like to know how much he does a year in cars but his deception might not allow it.
Thanks man, yeah it's a great side hobby to take the mind off the day job!
No capital gains tax in Australia!? ✈️💼
On collectibles purchased under $500. Of course there is on shares and properties 😅
@@pokeoz91 that first part is still enough for me to love it 😂
@@fdjizm haha come on down!
@@pokeoz91 my former taxation tutor from uni told me that the cost of a purchase is apportioned when selling also so technically if you paid A$999.99 for a case of LO, you could sell 3 boxes ($499.995) and avoid CGT altogether. Pretty sweet!
Michael, when can you and I grab some apple juice and have a chat? I think that would be pretty fun.
Rob, mate! We need to!
His entire video was based on the premise that PC can reprint anything at any time...yet he could provide no example when this has happened.
Sweet handle, jayquaza 😎
Exactly no real.data presented now we do see. Not in Ozs fantasy world the real numbers would never add up. Its a false narrative promoted as factual and when questionijg the creators intentions the is no logical answer but one that comes from ego. Some of us are not blind or sheeple, the sales tactics here are subpar.
Evolutions was printed for over 4 years..
Hidden fates had multiple waves of tins and etbs reprinted 3/4 years after its initial release..
Ultra prism got a reprint (albeit it small) after the set was out of rotation.
Unbroken bonds also got a smaller wave release.
S&M base etbs got restocked on Pokemon center 4 years after its release.. Also team up and celestial storm had briefly popped up years after rotation just before the s&m base etbs dropped…
There’s 5 examples 😜
@@dspill1090 You missed Roaring Skies. It happens a lot. It usually still goes up but reprints do happen.
Yeah I meant examples where people have lost a load of money and the product never recovered.
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Legend!
Drag him respectfully PokeOz
I think we actually have some similar views just a few that differ!
I do think it's weird for people that are 40-50 or above to collect pokemon
I guess maybe they enjoyed it with their kids when it came out? Who knows, hey bro 🤷♂️
@@pokeoz91 you need to be a kid when it came out or was born later. Otherwise it's weird. Just my opinion.
@@newjones1754 Nahh, my old man plays the games. He just likes them because it was something to do with his kids. Nothing weird about it.
@@monkey39128 It's weird adults playing kids games.
Egos are hurt, a little perspective PokeOz is not a financial expert nor TCG expert but parades around like the rest of them with false data and narratives. Remember people this old content creator is a salesman, his goal is to sell his channel and his BS ideals. His goal is to mislead not to help you in your investing journey. These people.are coping everyday why does this joker not talk about 151 or Crown Zenith? He wants to sell you into hype into highs it's a scammer tactic.
No ego is hurt at all, man. It's a follow-up video presenting a counterargument 😅
Pretty straight forward there old mate. Hold product and it will go up. Buy on the lows and sell on the highs. Simple straight forward tactic! How is this a scammer view? lol 🤡🤡
Wtf pokeoz isn’t a scammer. 😂He’s a knowledgeable nice guy. He isn’t misleading anybody.. he gives great advice and insight into the Pokemon investing hobby.
PokeOz in all his great gen x wisdom will never say to buy a PSA 10 Umbreon Vmax Alt Art. It goes against his business model, it goes against everything they stand for and promote. Actual blue chip Pokemon investing is a thing, I know you ozzys are just going to cope and protect your little golden goose but I am not fooled nor impressed. Lots of hidden data right now that's for sure.
@nativeretrospective6931 Bringing in a lot of insults without any substance. Generation I was born in, country of origin. None of these have anything to do with the topic. What's your investing strategy? If we can get on topic, without insultive rhetoric. You mentioned PSA 10 Umbreon. Do you invest in graded singles?