@@shehzadahmad3945 it depends on the region. egypt had it the worse under the ottomans, mamluk oppression remained in place. syria was relatively prosperous in part due to levantine trade with western europe. iraq stagnated under ottoman rule until the mamluk dynasty came to power, when the area experienced an economic revival. ottomans didn't do much with the hejaz other than ceremonial claims.
Perhaps the biggest obstacle to unity is what we also see in Europe and Latin America: Who should gain power from a union and who should relinquish power? Everybody wants the first, no one wants the second.
Brazil is an example of a State that represents the union of several others of the same culture. The USA too. The former Spanish colonies did not have a monarchical force that united them, or a common cause like the USA. In the case of Brazil, it was the separation from Portugal declared by the Brazilian government itself which guaranteed its union to this day.
I see no resemblance to Latin America. Latin America was never one big empire with the same language nor was is ever a single unity stemming from a religion or center of power. South Americas location is far from the main population centers in the world and was never a particularly strategic trade location. Brazil has its unique history apart from the rest of Latin America, speaks Portuguese, and is coincidentally christian. It would be expected to have extremely strong ties to the US and Europe, but as there is a strong overlap in the agricultural sector with the US and Europe heavily subsidizes agriculture, Brazil has developed this trade dependency with China, Russia and to a lesser extent, the middle east. Customers on the "other side of the world" literally. The large majority of the Spanish speaking countries have the same language and religion, yes, but are ethnically, culturally, geopolitically and economically diverse. In varying degrees, they have the same difficulties to have strong ties with the US and Europe and are also obligated to do a large chunk of their trade with asia. Most countries get along with each other very well as there is really very little competition with each other, as like the Arab world, do most of their trading with partners outside of the continent, and mainly in commodities. No nation in South America is particularly expansionistic. And most do not seem to have a need to be and borders seem to be very stable as they are. MERCOSUL started out with aspirations similar to that of the EU. But I believe its progress has been extremely limited due to the failure of all the countries in the region to embrace free trade, reform the state, drop socialist/populist concepts that disguise systems full of privileges for a few at the expense of the many and the poor. It will only move forward when there is a reward mechanism to propel it forward and that is economic growth. This would require a legal system that actually works, eliminate privileges and corruption, reducing taxes, reducing the size o the state, reducing social benefits, massive investments in infrastructure to overcome the regions difficult geography, mass reindustrialization, mass education, massive investment in research, development of hight tech industries in all sectors etc... Frankly, stuff for decades which I will not be around to see. If anything I see many countries going in reverse. Even some that are supposedly more developed than others.
Quote worthy, for sure. I’ve felt for a while that the grandchildren of the defeated are among the most dangerous. They heard their grandparent’s stories of lost causes. They feel aggrieved and seek glory, not realizing that it come with a cost.
You don't even have to lose it. By so many metrics, America was doing great in 2016. Improvements could be made, inequalities could be rebalanced, but the causes were known and addressable. Yet along came some huckster proclaiming "Make America Great Again" while pitching policies that would do the opposite, and he got tens of millions to buy in.
😄 saw the title and was just about to smugly pronounce "because they've been at it since Muhammed eightysixed it" but maybe I should watch the vid instead...
religion plays a big ass role in the anti-state sentiment. people still reject the values on which modern states are based. secularism is the obvious example.
as an Arab the question is something discussed widely and these are my points: 1.Centers of Power: the center of the culture, humanity and Financial and Political are Different, Egypt and Saudi arabia each claim it, each with a wildly different Way of rule. 2. Political differences: the 22 countries each has a wildly different way of rule, from absolute Monarchies to Army centralised governments, affect the ability of creating a union without injustices. 3. Sectarianism: Arab world is Made up of Sunnis, Shiates and Christians, in which non are able to concede some power. 4. Colonial Rule and its effects: while it could be a cliche to just Blame Colonisation, but its affects in regard of splitting the countries without minding Demographical differences and the Cultural influence they applied to the people they controlled made it worse, either it is by language, cultural or the geopolitical connections they had. And lastly as a Yemeni and an arab I feel sad that we are drifting away from each other although our similarities and brotherhood are far greater than our issues and differences
@@portalsevil Yeah but deep down it isnt as ultimate as it is. Logically yes, but the shared traditions, customs, language and religion makes a logical standpoint on whether there should be a united arab state.
Like my friend said, and an example of this would be Russia, as it has so many ethnic Mongolians that are living in Siberia, they don't want anything to do with Russia, but there isn't any problems in their life. (OK, excuse me, That was a bad example)@@portalsevil
I find colonialism an interesting aspect in causing the conflicts In the world. For example the British split India based on religion, and it didn't solve the conflict and some might say it made it worse, there is still disagreement and violence between the Hindus and Muslims even though they have their own countries in India and Pakistan, another example is Ireland, where Northern Ireland had a democratic vote to remain in the UK, which seems like the fairest way to handle the situation, yet there is still conflict and violence after, split along ethnic lines. So it seems like the fairest way for an empire to deal with a situation it has still doesn't solve the conflict. Another example is Sudan, where Sudan is majority Muslim and Arab, but South Sudan was majority African and Christian. If you ask me we need to consider redrawing many of the worlds borders because people just cant seem to get along.
“Pride is not the opposite of shame, but the source of it. True humility is the only antidote to shame.” -General Iroh This would not be a bad place to start.
Easier said than done for sure. Right now even more historically stable states are having trouble with "pride" in a romanticized idyllic past destabilizing them in the face of the rapid changes over the course of the 21st.
that doesn't make sense though, no two Arabs are the same. Maghrebi and Egyptian Arabs aren't the same blood, heritage, or history as Iraqi/Kuwaiti Arabs.
@@kevinyonan2147 They are the same I am Palestinian, I was born at Jordan, and I've been living at Algeria for the past 6 years. The similarities amongst Arabs are far more than the differences, we speak the same language, we share the same history, we have the same religion, we have the same troubles and we hold very similar traditions.
@@Mohtellawi that's not true actually. Palestinian Arabs and Jordanian Arabs are similar but you're still not similar to Maghrebi, Misreen, or Iraqi Arabs.
@@kevinyonan2147 the differences and simalrities amongs arab throughout the Arab worls are comparable to the differences and simalrities among differen regions in tthe same contry! I found it wierd to consider me (northeren Yemeni Arab) different than other Arab in Moroco, but similler to another Arab from south Yemen! these division are totally arbitrary!
Shirvan overestimates the role of geography, but doesn't mention the mentality and diversity of political systems in the Arab world. Egyptians will not let Syrians rule over them and Saudi Monarchs will not let Moroccan Monarchs over their country. You have monarchies, dictatorships and some kind of sectarian democracies in this countries, where it is simply impossible to gather everybody under one banner. Whether ther is Israel or some desert between them plays a lesser role.
@@ranjithvurs1086 Then tell me why does Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Bahrain have a monarchy, but Egypt, Syria, and Iraq not? How is the political system influenced through geography?
@@ranjithvurs1086 Nasser was able to unify state so differents like Syria and Yemen. Plus, his leadership wasn't doubted in the Arab world. After his death, nobody has been able to do the same
The ability to build a great nation and rise to superpower status requires more than just population, territory, or resources; it requires vision, unity, determination, and a belief in the possibility of something better.
Unfortunately, our easy-going Muslim people generally scoff at such thinking. and because of the corruption in our governments and lack of vision, the idealists and visionaries go and join sectarian groups instead. Lack of quality education is the primary issue.
@@JMAssainatorzYes, shared identity is important, But ultimately we can only identify with so many people on certain scales. I think it's more important to have unifying beliefs.
Honestly. I used to complain about that but it's where the money is. Muslims and those other groups pay these TH-camrs to make these videos. So if we want more on sub Saharan African videos we gotta put money up which we don't.
@@JcLazy1 I don't think this Caspian report is corrupt, almost all of their videos take a very moderate stance, for a good example look at the video on the Armenia Azerbaijan war. I don't think anyone is directly paying for this video.
@@JcLazy1 I agree superficially with you. There most likely is less money in a video about Sub Saharan Africa compared to one on Pan Arabism, but not because of people literally paying them to argue for certain points. There is just less of an audience for it. Less audience means less add watch time, less sponsorship money and less patreons gained.
@@Kenionatus I am stating what you Said from the first half. Not the second. I am not stating anybody is paying money to push an agenda or way of thinking. If it came of cross like that. I didnt mean to offend Muslims or any group. I am just saying certain demographics of kings and general, caspain and etc, don't want to watch sub Sahara Africa. I can't fault them. I fault sub Sahara for not supporting financially in some sort of making their own channel or this channel.
I’m so grateful to have come across this amazing channel in the last year and I feel like it informs me without bias, thank you for all the work you do.
The UN is highly western based and most of world countries from Asia to Africa to eastern Europe to south America refuse LGBTQ refuse feminism refuses the banking system refuses the modern slavery ( salve wage ) refuses western subjective vales ,but yet they push it on all of us. using utilitarianism then the west shouldn't be pushing their values on the majority and the majority can take down the west. that's why in political science there's a famous quote " the liberal global order is neither liberal nor global " ( meaning only western based and other countries don't anticipate on it or they will be sanctioned and fought by the west ). also, this is by definition slavery because they tell us what to do and if we refuse, they punish us , starve us or kill us and we have to follow them when they are the minority. so utilitarianism doesn't work and they are enslaving us. what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ". even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective. even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here they can't really answer. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on. what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable. one thing else if they don't have the concept of good or bad of any subject other than morality that means it has no value ( worthless ). for example, asking an atheist is science good or bad ? if he/she did reply with good and bad they can't prove it therefore, it's subjective and has no value at all since they don't have the concept of Good and bad. therefore, all their " facts" ( which are hypothesis not facts ) are worthless if it has no value ( good and bad ). they can't detect which is fact and not if they don't hold on any value and even if they did they can't prove it since it's subjective. We live in a world that ran by subjective people who can't prove their value or the value of anything and can't prove even their subjectivsim and it's value! Yet they have the audacity to tell us what's good or bad and what's valuable and not and what's true and not. also brain is nothing but an organ according to their world view which means they cannot base anything on it and it's all chemical reactions which delude itself on having meaning when there's non which means all their claims as their existence worthless meaningless and untrue. which means they argue for nothing.....
add also, that all countries are consumers to the west ( the producer ) and that is why the west is always rich because they refuse other countries to produce their own products or their own weapons because with that money comes then influence comes and they refuse that and that's why they attack and sanction too. unfortunately , we are the playground of superpowers. the west even without Islam rising is digging their own grave since they barely have any children. with Islam they will be annihilated by our raising alone and they will fall easily. if they use nukes , then they will have to live like rats in grounds for the rest of their existence ( that if earth survived ). they will not use it because they stand for nothing therefore, they will not go to that ever.
@@ahmadfrhan5265 same in post soviet brother. Just eastern european aerospace engineer student who tries to understand why eastern europe is not good and how to make it better
Yeah, these idiots can't just do a fucking federation like the EU They're a lot more similar in everything than the different European countries, yet they are more disjointed lmao
It's same old, that's the reason eu worked out because at least on the surface it appears to have common leadership. Besides, leadership in mena region has a tendency to censor everyone which makes interchanged of solutions impossible.
Succinct analysis set to haunting music and well-chosen video bytes. Top-notch channel. I have a Master's in Poli-Sci, and I admire the depth of information that is so effectively condensed into "Why Do I Care?" segments. Great stuff.
I love how much I learn about things I never knew watching CR's videos. I'd like to think I follow politics and history a lot but I always learn new things or new perspectives I never knew existed. 10/10 again sir!
Keep up your search for knowledge. Caspian report makes decent videos but he is prone to bias, omission of information and in some cases blatant mistakes. He’s a decent source with interesting videos but not the geopolitical messiah many in the comments section make him out to be
The question preventing the formation of an Arab superstate is this: who would be its leader? It’s difficult to get the leader of any nation to voluntarily give up their power to another, especially when those leaders believe that ruling is their God-given right.
a council of equal nations with an alphabetically rotating chair. Each nation of the Arabian-Persian Union would send a diplomat in, similar to the current UN ambassador system. each year (or every X years) the next nation in line's ambassador to the APU would be the chairman of the Union
Shukri Al-Quwatli already gave up his democratic presidency for the greater good. He was a good man, but Nasser didn’t appreciate the sacrifices Syria made for the unity and he made a shit hole out of Syria.
The UN is highly western based and most of world countries from Asia to Africa to eastern Europe to south America refuse LGBTQ refuse feminism refuses the banking system refuses the modern slavery ( salve wage ) refuses western subjective vales ,but yet they push it on all of us. using utilitarianism then the west shouldn't be pushing their values on the majority and the majority can take down the west. that's why in political science there's a famous quote " the liberal global order is neither liberal nor global " ( meaning only western based and other countries don't anticipate on it or they will be sanctioned and fought by the west ). also, this is by definition slavery because they tell us what to do and if we refuse, they punish us , starve us or kill us and we have to follow them when they are the minority. so utilitarianism doesn't work and they are enslaving us. what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ". even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective. even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here they can't really answer. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on. what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable. one thing else if they don't have the concept of good or bad of any subject other than morality that means it has no value ( worthless ). for example, asking an atheist is science good or bad ? if he/she did reply with good and bad they can't prove it therefore, it's subjective and has no value at all since they don't have the concept of Good and bad. therefore, all their " facts" ( which are hypothesis not facts ) are worthless if it has no value ( good and bad ). they can't detect which is fact and not if they don't hold on any value and even if they did they can't prove it since it's subjective. We live in a world that ran by subjective people who can't prove their value or the value of anything and can't prove even their subjectivsim and it's value! Yet they have the audacity to tell us what's good or bad and what's valuable and not and what's true and not. also brain is nothing but an organ according to their world view which means they cannot base anything on it and it's all chemical reactions which delude itself on having meaning when there's non which means all their claims as their existence worthless meaningless and untrue. which means they argue for nothing.....
It's good to see a non heavily propagated version of this story since I was born and raised in jordan and this story was told to me in a very biased way with a lot of details missing like how Egypt and syria were together, this was never taught to us in school so keep up the good work!
@@moinmoin2720 pretty sure it was in 12th grade when they stopped teaching about Europian, our history in the middle ages and random civilizations and began teaching us about our own recent history and if i remember correctly the united arab republic was mentioned but in like half a page's worth and nothing was about how jordan and iraq tried to to the same with their alliance as a response and how the iraq coup was made by loyalists to the Egyptians just to name a few details that were hidden by our school books and my personal opinion: I just want to leave this failed, paranoid society in any way possible, a society that thinks everything happening is about them like how every action taken by America is to undermine the arabian world, they are undermining them selves no one cares enough or has the resources to do that.
@@John-pk9rw Your comment sounds so stupid. Arab countries are those which speak Arabic language. And a good number of those countries are situated in Africa.
@@sicksaga007 1) Senegal, Congo, Cote d’ivoir, Cameroon etc speak French. Are those countries French? Try again 2) I’m from Morocco and I can’t speak Arabic. Try again.
The quality of your videos is OUTRAGEOUS! Great work as always, and the writing is getting ever better. A good follow up would be a video on the challenges for Latin America (or just south america) integration and the "IIRSA" plan. In fact, I would love to see more of LA on the channel. Cheers!
Internal trade is needed first, after that the economies of different Arab regions will have to be slowly lifted to be of a somewhat comparable level once again. Then Union should be proposed and started like the EU where each country is independent but strongly integrated with the rest. Finally, a federation should be started which unites the different countries into one states but with autonomy. This is a long process and will be difficult but in the end it will be very much worth it.
The problem is that with a Union like the EU other already fragiele Arab states like Algeria or Egypt would be in more danger because of countries like Lebanon or Tunisia or Yemen....
Interesting. The final quote, "A nation without a state and states without a nation" makes a lot of sense. I think there will have to be a secular state based out of Egypt and an Islamist state based out of Arabia or Iran. The victor of Arabia-Iran is going to be important.
The iranian state is not islamic AT ALL. They practice idol worship and do not give fair trial to people in court, and they block access to information. The qur'an tells people to seek knowledge.
I agree with some of the points, however the idea that it's a geographical problem is a bit strange. Past Muslim empires governed all those regions together no problem, that's before the existence of modern transport/communication. Also imo, it's not so much about a Muslim failure as much as it's about Western success, success in strategically dividing the region and establishing Israel. The middle east has been potent in spawning Muslim empires for almost 1300 years straight. The 20th-21st century is the first time it has failed to do so since ~700 AD. This is partly thanks to the industrial revolution which pushed the West light years ahead of the Muslim world. With such huge power gap, implementing insurance policies against potential future rivalry becomes easy.
Honestly, he did a pretty good job going over the Arab failures, but I feel as though after a while an Arab superstate stopped really be arab and started really being more of an Islamic superstate. The point though is that after WW1 western influence has divided and continues to divide us today. Isreal, American puppets, American intervention, Russian puppets, French influence in Africa. I mean there's literally a handbook for the CIA on how to keep the Arab world divided. Though I've got a good deal of hope for Turkey they've been doing a good job of keeping up sharia and staving off secularism.
That would sum up my reply, because the first half of the video has many misleading and false statements that only say that the presenter just doesn't know.
one of the biggest barrier to growth and development, is the tendency to readily blame others for your shortcomings and incompetences. if you are not being held down by physical force, then you have yourself to blame for being down.
@@mariacheebandidos7183 I realize that this is true in some cases, and it may be true to some extent here as well, but there's only so much that can be done when the power gap is this huge. Even in the early days of Islam's establishment, it could have not grown nearly as much if the Roman or Persian empires weren't already dwindling. The Iranian revolution in 1979 was one potential movement that could have pushed the region out of Western control, but it wasn't successful because, again, there's a huge power gap. China managed to become a rival because the West dropped their guard on them, there wasn't nearly as much worry or expectation that they could reach this stage. If the West knew where China could be things would have been done differently. The Hong Kong, Uyghur and Taiwan propaganda all came out very recently, too little too late.
@@mariacheebandidos7183 ... I do agree and people usually hate me for blaming them for their problems, but in this case, yes, there is an actual physical force, I wouldn't go in further details because of that "force" :D
As someone who recently found this channel, I just want to say that the great critical thinking & consideration shown in every video is such a refreshing change of pace compared to the tik-tok style of content so prevalent these days. Also narration + visuals are amazing... Anyways, just leaving a comment to help beat the algorithm lol
I would love for Caspian Report to do a similar video on Latin America. The Spanish speaking world has so much in common but are very nationalistic as well. Not mention the gap with Brazil & the rest of LATAM.
Hopefully, I'm Spanish and I would like an latin union, maybe with Portugal and Spain too. I always feel quite more similar to latinamericans than the rest of Europe. We only are similar to Italian people, anything else. I hope that our politics think about this.
It can be a economic union with a limited common policy and international front. But Latin America is not as homogeneous as people think. Little in common has a Uruguayan with a Colombian or a Cuban with a Peruvian or a Mexican with an Argentine. At most you can see the southern cone going into a economical political union like the EU with Brazil and Argentina as it's core.
@@sociedadnortena9514 no. For religion I am atheist, Argentina and Uruguay have less than 20% of practicing devotes, nominally catholic but no Ody goes to church nor gives a shit about it. We are more atheist and agnostics than believers. Language, you don't speak as me. The BS is the latinamerican union we are nothing alike. I have in common to a Mexican the same a Yank has with with a South African. Same colonial origin does not unite you. We weren't never even part of the same administration. Nope nope and nope, language means nothing, I am not going to unity with people 8000 km away just because they barely use similar gramatical rules and words that doesn't even sound the same.
@@Argentvs " economic union with a limited common policy" - that's harder to do than one thinks. The EU started that way, then they realized that more common policy is needed, if they want everyone to play by the same rules and have the same rights, because there is always one that finds a way to exploit the system, or is afraid to lose influence (*cough, UK). In the end you end up with a bloated and messy bureaucracy. It's actually amazing that the EU is still going strong, but serious bureaucratic reconsideration is needed. The EU only survived and prospered because of serious funding from the major economies, who have enough economic power to get throw tough times like the 2008 crisis, the Greek (6th at that time) bankruptcy and the 2020 pandemic. Latin America doesn't have such strong economies to act like the backbone of a Union, and support it in times of crisis. Even if there were some, would they be prepared and willing to give up some of their wealth and influence, to help poorer countries ? Would they want a Union in the first place, if they were already rich ? An economic trade union in Latin America would be great, but they have to keep if focused and limited to only that.
Imagine Muqtada al-Sadr, Abdel al-Sisi, Bashir Assad, Mahmoud Abbas, and MBS debating each other in a parliament…I can’t do it. The subsequent civil war would be epic.
LOL, it could be a business thou: insted of a parliament it would be a boxing ring and insted of civil war it would be a show. It would make a lot of money.
Oil money can actually be a curse. Saudi is very dependant on oil price and the refining corporation. Other country it's just necessary to find oil to start having "insurgent problems", a great example is mozbique cause oil exporters end up messing with these to control and monopolize the biz. Way better to have a geography based on industry and ideas and trade. That's what made the past empires in the region - they were big traders and industrial: they wanted peace to sell their items in a competing market.
@@Mlmylji the 2030 plan is not working as intended. Having a diplomatic scandals and being a totalitarian regime are incompatible with the vision presented.
No lmao, what are you saying? The Arab oil states would never want to merge. Moroccans and Algeria's together? We would also import eachother's problems: all those minorities and religious sects. Nah, thanks.
@@zaraletoustre4556 yes, I was about to say. If there was no Soviet pressure, there would be no US pressure (Nasser had not yet aligned with the Soviet Union). Hence, Britain, France and Israel would still rule over the Suez if there were no pressure from the Soviet Union.
@@eavocado5890pppj GCC is a dumpfire and the arabian peninsula is only good for Oil and nothing else. Saudi is of cultural importance but the rest are just oil and gas taps
@@el-jp3xp LOL....Current indian gov came after winning elections in which 900 million ppl voted.....thats literally the pinnacle of democracy...u dnt like it doesnt mean it's something else..most Indian ppl like the gov..thats literally meaning of democracy.
@@HimanshuKumar-tw4fl 'many' are not happy..but most are satisfied..it's simple as that.thats the whole point of democracy and the votes reflect it. And in all honesty, lives of pretty much everyone I know has improved by good margin in recent yrs.
Very insightful. Thank you! This is without a doubt one of the most complex and turbulent regions on Earth. There are so many angles to study that I suspect one lifetime would not be sufficient time to learn it all. But it's also an area where the history of the region both constrains their future and inspires grand imaginations of what could be. This corner of the world has never been short of surprises. I expect that you will have plenty of opportunities to revist the region in the years ahead. I am looking forward to those videos.
Great video! One quick note though: During the Fertile Crescent Union phase (just after WWII), it would have been worthwhile to highlight the role of the SSNP and the concept of a Greater Syrian state that was actually opposed to Pan-Arabism!
As a non Arab the reason is simple, Arabs view each other as different largely driven by class, the rich gulf Arabs view everyone else as inferior. I mean they would rather hire Filipinos and Indian pagans than fellow Arabs in their sparkling cities despite record unemployment in many Arab nations.
Shared language and religion aren’t enough to create a country. There’s a huge variety in customs, traditions, history and dialects between these countries. A more reasonable unions would be regional based (Arabia, The Levant, the Maghreb) and all of them being federations You also failed to mention two examples of unification attempts, The UAE, and Yemen, whereas the UAE was a success, Yemen’s unification is on its death bed.
@@syedasifhussain2074 because india was a british project. It was united by force by the british. And then left as such to pressure the eastern flank of the islamic world. But by Allah's grace Pakistan was the counter project created by the divine decree, as a result india is to this day struggling to contain a country one-fourths its own size.
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“thought it is easy to attribute [insert historical or current event] to culture or personality, these are usually mere manifestations of geopolitical landscapes” I should save this and have it framed in my classroom.
The Arab Nationalism is almost dead, The Arabs reject it and if there will be an Arab Superstate it will be more Democratic with Muslim Identity. If it’s based on Democracy it will be like Turkey, Stable and thriving. With 450 million citizens 60 of them under age 30 and more than 60% of World Natural Resources and the Most strategic location in the world, It could easily become a superpower in an afternoon.
"The principles of justice and righteousness are linked to achieving security and stability in the world, particularly in the Middle East. Over many years, some have wrongfully sought to attain stability through oppression and tyranny. Some of us have, alas, applauded their bad deeds. But now that the peoples of the region have regained their freedom, they will not tolerate being deprived of their rights, whether by their own leaders or outside forces" - Mohommad Morsi
He was wrong: vast majority of peace thru history were made by a centralized power that lasted long enough for new generation forget the injustices. No difference between one reagion or the other.
@@princehamza890 "but but its only right and moral when groups aproved by me do it, when murica does than its wrong and imoral"!!!! Preach to another gulible ignorant.
The middle is a poor land, never in the history of the Middle East has had this much peace. It only because the United Statas and Globalization has created so much stability but now the United States is pulling back and you can see what already happening in Lebanon.
This is so similar to Hispanic America, I'm costa rican and even though there's almost no difference between us and Colombia, México, Panama, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Argentina, etc. we are still divided into 20 nations and can't even agree to create a single market or something like the EU, I hope arabs can unite and take your position in the world because you deserve better.
That might not be so good ? Islam will come to dominate it and then it will once again want to dominate the world . That would be disaster for the world
There is a huge different Hispanics have talent to build decent middle income economies Arabs can't do this at all The only decent Arab countries are the Gulf from oil not talent
@@phylicia595Arabs can't do that? Egypt, Morocco, Algeria are pretty decent. Lebanon was very rich, until the economic crisis. It had a huge banking sector. Syria and Iraq were also very rich until the war and the revolution. Jordania is a beautiful example, it's even landlocked and still doing pretty good.
@@houseplant1016 north african lands are dumps compared to Argentina and even Mexico. Despite Mexicans getting a bad rep in Latin lands. They're still better
He will not do it because of his personal bias and his western sponsorship, it is obvious that western power never wants a united arab world. Samuel P. Huntington in his Clash of Civilization book indirectly warned about arab superpower so there are always some subversion strategy against it in the present world order agendas
@@mynameisnotimportant845 - And yet, so so many foreign bombs fall on Arab cities across the world. Makes things a might bit difficult, don’t ya think?
What a marvellous historical analysis! I only wish you had pointed out the inherent tension between tribalism in the Arab world and the very notion of the modern state - let alone a super-state.
I don't think tribalism (involving real tribes, at least) holds much weight in Arab politics today. Tribes certainly exist and certain big and prominent tribes often look out for their own, promoting each other to important positions in their businesses or the government Tribes now exist mainly as large familial clans defined by blood rather than an independent political identity with its own shared interests. In Saudi, for example, prominent tribes and their leaders mainly hold a ceremonial role while the real power is exercised by the core princes belonging to the Saudi family
@@RexGalilae it hold enormous weight, all over the Arab world. It very much defines the nature of all political allegiance. Kin-based tribalism is also the reason Arab countries mostly have ineffective militaries. Soldiers' allegiances to their tribal leaders overrides any sense of nationalism. Look up the article "Why Arabs lose wars" by Norvell B. De Atkine.
@@RexGalilae From an Israeli that works with Arabs almost everyday, I assume you that tribalism is a huge factor from day to day house lives to even armed militia's in their villages.
@@RexGalilae Saudi military with the full logistical force of the US behind it cannot even handle a bunch of sporadic Yemeni tribes. That's today, not two generations ago. You realise that, right?
@@micha2909 except that in the US, there is no correlation at all between voters' opinion and what is actually legislated as law. There's published research on this. The power of lobbying groups has rendered democracy in the US a farce and no more than a popularity contest with no implications on the legislative.
I’d definitely enjoy more detail on this. My learning of the past histories of this region has a lot to do with Rome and it’s influence over trade and how the issues of trade realigned what I understood is Islamic integration. I guess it all depends on which period of history we are trying to understand. Thank you. May this Arab state exist in the near future.
No, may pan-Arabism be through in the dust bin of history. The ideology has meant suppression of local culture and languages. The ideology is historically baseless and denies the diversity of history’s is culture.
Being absolutely devastated 800 years ago by the Mongols probably had a more drastic affect than trade standards being recycled. Along side the founding of Islam, the Fall of Baghdad is the 1/2 most important events to happen to Islamic Culture. The lack of integration in Europe is because the Christians and Muslims were largely at each others throats over Spain, and the subsequent crusades, for basically all of the history. It was definitely not simply the nuance of trade that caused the divisions, but rather the zealous nature of both sides fighting to show how strong their God is. Obviously this is a waxing and waning tension between these peoples, sometimes matters were settled in the field, and sometimes they were negotiated, and even celebrated between the people. Despite their differing opinions on the Abrahamic God. (Yes religion alone is a HUGE factor along with everything else like culture and histories.)
Chinese mindset?? Why would a state like this exist?? Would it bring better prosperity for its citizens?? No, it wouldn't. Multiple smaller states that are friendly to each other is the way to go.
This is such a dense subject, I reckon you could have spread this out over multiple episodes @CaspianReport. The Sykes-Picot agreement alone and its repercussions could fill enough for a 60min episode.
Not only that, but why would I as a Saudi citizen would want to spread the wealth of my country with punch of poor Arab countries who never shared their wealth in the past with the Arabian peninsula. Rest assured that if any of those oil fields were outside the gulf no one would care enough to even consider us as an equal Arab let alone be part of their superstate.
@@al3ndlib "Rest assured that if any of those oil fields were outside the gulf no one would care enough to even consider us as an equal Arab let alone be part of their superstate." Saudi-Arabia and other Arabian states barely received any Syrian refugees. Countries like Lebanon took in so many refugees that nearly a quarter of their population is a Syrian refugee. Unstable countries like Iraq even took in refugees. As did Jordania and Egypt. Distant non-Arab countries in Europe took in a bunch of them too. So did Turkey, which took in a whopping >3 million. I get where you're coming from, but let's be honest: Saudi-Arabia is beyond selfish. It also rarely contributes to humanitarian aid, whilst even poorer countries do. Meanwhile, they still have a king that owns how many cars, how many palaces, how many...? And the migrants they do allow are treated as slaves. The money they have besides that is invested in propaganda (on social media), skyscrapers and other architectural stunts, hiring art etc. to draw Western tourists, as they need a source of income and the oil is pretty much gone; or in the Cold War they're fighting with Iran/Shia factions. "who never shared their wealth in the past with the Arabian peninsula." Are you sure? Because when a muslim (and most Arabs are muslims) goes to Mecca for his mandatory pilgrimage. Do you think he comes empty-handed? That's just one example.
Northern Somalia (Somaliland)‚ Djibouti‚ and even half of Eritrea has a lot of Arabic(Origin) tribes and Arab cultural imprint even before Islam as many migrations came from Yemen and Southern Arabia. The same happened between Yemen/Oman (Hadhramut) and the Comoros Islands
They are semitic people and using semitic languages like arabs or assyrians or jews, Ethiopia should be included in arab world but they were not politically aligned with most of middle east.
@@AliTSaddam the video says Arab world. What do we share in this world? I. E if you're not Arab, then this world does not belong to you. Change the title if you want us with you.. Otherwise,, we aint Arabs.. We have our own land, culture and language. Capish.
We're Arabs we have been culturally and religiously integrated with the Arab world a lot of somali tribes come from Arab backgrounds for example the daroods who originate from Oman and partially Yemen. We're proud Arabs.
We are seeing a more realistic approaches to unify political and military agendas with economical support from rich countries to less fortunate ones. Which is a good approach to overcome issues that lead to failure of previous unification attempts.
This is assuming the West/China/Russia etc would be interested in a stable and unified MENA. I can see the EU needing a stable region because of migrants but Russia and even some Western states have done their best to make the situation worse in the region.
Same reason why there's no christian superstate. The unfortunate arabization of the middle east led us to believe that those countries are more alike than they really are.
From my understanding as an Arab from Saudi Arabia, it is impossible to have one superstate, I do believe the people will wish for it but the leaders and governments will not allow that, but there is a better alternative, we have the Arabs league and for me I wish for it to have the same function as the EU to allow free trades between us allow Arabs to move from one country to the other I mean it will do wonders, Egypt right now is overcrowded with people with no jobs, they can simply travel to the gulf states and work there with no restrictions, we can exchange ideas to better yourself and strengthen our identity as one people, but I guess I can only dream of something like that.
The EU is a confederation on it's way to becoming a federation. We have an elected European Parlament, a EU Government - the European Commission. As for an Arab speaking free trade area, that has no economic basis. The Magreb nations have far more powerful links with the EU than they have with the rest of the Arab speaking states.
The problem is the “ideas” Egypt would bring would directly correlate to overthrowing the monarchy. And it would have validity too since Egyptians are both arabs and Muslim; the population would atleast here them out. So It’s better for Saudi’s to bring in non arabs especially non Muslim ones too .I.e Indians.
For that u would need a certain level of common legislation for comerce and civil rights which u don't agree between urself with very different levels of islamic jurisprudence. It can't work if no one is willing to compromise.
@@Shatterfury1871 Arabs have not fought two world wars like Europeans and they have no inherent racist problem in their religion and majority of Arabs want Union, if Europeans can make EU the Arabs and Muslims at large can definitely unite because there is no other way of coming out of humiliation and slavery of colonial powers. The only Problem is that dominant world powers and corrupt elites classes of Arab world don't let it happen for their vested interests. But it is inevitable, sooner the better.
This was a very insightful video! Just something to note, you mentioned Slavic nationalism bolstering nationalistic movements across the Ottoman Empire, but you also included Greece in this while Greeks aren't Slavic. Small gripe but a notable one nonetheless. Keep up the good work!
I think the unifying and destabilizing factors for arabs have always been the ethnic competition, lack of a common enemy and incentive to innovate or improve their standing other than for pride of country nowadays.
@@DaSpooderMan69420 Lack of a real common enemy. "Muh Jews" repeatedly proved to be poor motivation to the common soldiery of the Arab states. They could keep Palestinians from integrating, preferring to keep them in refugee camps for decades to use as a cause celebre, but that was a poor substitute for actual substantive reasons for, say, the average Egyptian in the street to feel a strong need to join the army and erase Israel.
Yes, hate might serve as a rallying force, but proved unsustainable. The Arabs don't have binding force, a common political ideal other than religion. This is partly because all political thoughts are already eclipsed by Islam. Meaning new political ideologies and modernity would be rejected automatically.
@@DaSpooderMan69420 Outside of Israel which is so heavily propped up by super powers that it cannot be erased yea there is no common enemy. Most of the Arab world trust outsiders from Asia/Europe over each other.
In my opinion, i think the biggest obstacle is the the Arab people don't think ,discuss or even care about that idea thesedays! Thanx for your efforts ❤
I agree with the comment by @Saturn - It's been united before, for hundreds of years, so geography isn't the real problem. But it was done before by one strong individual/country that conquered everyone else - probably not likely today. I believe the other course would be for two or three countries to form a single country and become so economically successful that others would want to join. But to become that successful would require developing an industrial, technical, entrepreneurial, and financial base that doesn't seem to exist right now. Basing your economy on natural resources seems to be time-limited. Likewise being the low-cost producer of goods. In my opinion, it probably also requires a secular government; i don't see a lot of successful theocracies out there. This video seemed to do a good job of covering the history of attempts - both successful and short-lived. A lot of history of which i wasn't aware. Thank you.
The Soviet Union wasn't a slavic union though, it was Russian Imperialism justified by socialism, whereas yugoslavia was a unification movement. Czechoslovakia also isn't the best example as it's split wasn't really necessary and it could still reunite.
Meanwhile India and Indonesia have dozens of different ethnicities that coexist without falling part, not relying on nationalism to form a nation. It just shows how flawed and outdated the concept of a nation state is, and will especially become so in the future.
@@Maus_Indahaus I wouldn't say that's true for today's India anymore, the population is so divided due to the ruling party that it's literally a time bomb. They are going the opposite way of Gandhi.
@@雷-t3j Sure, the soviet union was more of a forced marriage, but regardless the Russians, Ukranians and Belarussians were all under one government. It is true that most people in Czechoslovakia wanted the country to stay intact, but it was going to split up sooner or later anyway (there were some economic and cultural differences between the Czechs and Slovaks that have been going on for decades, and the idea of Czechoslovakism failed to solve that) , Slovaks always believed they were recieving the short end of the stick in the country’s affairs. A reunification is really unlikely (im slovak). The two countries are simply brothers that went their own seperate ways. I also heard of this intermarium plan propossed by Poland to create a large eastern european nation composed mostly of Slavs. That also has failed to materialize.
@@millevenon5853 you think it's a joke now but when the last Arab state was/and will be again around no one in the whole world daired/will dare to rise his voice on us
How is that said ? If you could write it in Latin letters. I know one Arab friends told that is some like "Arab Jarab", which I think means like Arabs is a fight/mass/violence
@@canaanite23 No it doesn’t mean that. Jarab in Arabic means scabies; a very contiguous skin disease. That saying is believed to be originated from the Turks when they were ruling over massive lands of the Arabic world because they see themselves of higher level than the arabs as to say don’t deal with the arabs as you don’t deal with a person infected with scabies. “Arabs agreed to never agree” is just a satirical saying by the common people of the Arab world, although we know sometimes satire has some deep truth within it. In Arabic it is “Ettafag ala’arb a’ala alla yattafigo”. (a’a refers to the Arabic letter ع as in the name Ali).
@@darknessLordCC Ohh wow thank you so much for clearing that one out for me. So It's actually a racial slur. And for the saying, I might be able to surprise my friend 😜
Much like the Latin American superstate, it is only shaped in our imagination It would be interesting to cover this topic and its many attempts to form a union like: Pacific alliance, Mercosur, CAN, CELAC, ALBA, etc. Many tried to adress the issue of low internal commerce, movement of people and integration where they fell short on its objectives. I hope both Arab and Latam states get its super-states in the near future, it will be hard due to current events, but something worth the effort.
@@TheTokkie it is the gateway to prosperity you ape. instead of bickering amongst each other, the Arabs would be unified and be able to tackle problems much easier
As a Tunisian, We should try a partial union 1_ Maghreb 🇹🇳🇩🇿🇲🇦🇱🇾🇲🇷 2_ United Arab Kingdom 🇸🇦🇶🇦🇧🇭🇰🇼🇴🇲🇦🇪 3_Republic of the Levant 🇵🇸🇸🇾🇯🇴🇱🇧 4_ Egypt -sudan 🇪🇬🇸🇩 5_Iraq 🇮🇶 6_Yemen 🇾🇪
The Ottomans were the superpower, controlling Turkey, Balkans, Greece, Egypt, Iraq, Arabia, Syria and the Levant, but by the time of WWI their state, style of administration, and military was badly outdated. And they were carved up as a result.
The UN is highly western based and most of world countries from Asia to Africa to eastern Europe to south America refuse LGBTQ refuse feminism refuses the banking system refuses the modern slavery ( salve wage ) refuses western subjective vales ,but yet they push it on all of us. using utilitarianism then the west shouldn't be pushing their values on the majority and the majority can take down the west. that's why in political science there's a famous quote " the liberal global order is neither liberal nor global " ( meaning only western based and other countries don't anticipate on it or they will be sanctioned and fought by the west ). also, this is by definition slavery because they tell us what to do and if we refuse, they punish us , starve us or kill us and we have to follow them when they are the minority. so utilitarianism doesn't work and they are enslaving us. what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ". even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective. even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here they can't really answer. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on. what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable. one thing else if they don't have the concept of good or bad of any subject other than morality that means it has no value ( worthless ). for example, asking an atheist is science good or bad ? if he/she did reply with good and bad they can't prove it therefore, it's subjective and has no value at all since they don't have the concept of Good and bad. therefore, all their " facts" ( which are hypothesis not facts ) are worthless if it has no value ( good and bad ). they can't detect which is fact and not if they don't hold on any value and even if they did they can't prove it since it's subjective. We live in a world that ran by subjective people who can't prove their value or the value of anything and can't prove even their subjectivsim and it's value! Yet they have the audacity to tell us what's good or bad and what's valuable and not and what's true and not. also brain is nothing but an organ according to their world view which means they cannot base anything on it and it's all chemical reactions which delude itself on having meaning when there's non which means all their claims as their existence worthless meaningless and untrue. which means they argue for nothing.....
In the Suez crisis USSR and USA forced UK France and Israel to withdraw, Egypt did nothing at all and parts of it was occupied, this video has many historical flaws
You forgot one important thing, Even if it wasn't an Arab leader who did the achievement he won't hold himself from taking the credit. There is huge flaws in Arabic leadership which can't admit mistakes for some reason.
I think the problem with dealing with this topic is that generally it doesn't take into consideration the cultural difference between arabs. First of all, all arabs don't speak the same "language". Generally middle easterners don't understand northern african arabic and the latter only understand the former due to their cultural influence (namely movies and tv series). And that begs the question of what other differences there are in the arab world and can they be clustered. I believe there are 3 major clusters. The Maghreb, Egypt and the Levant and finally Arabia. When you study the arab history generally you are told about what happens in Egypt and the Levant, where the capitals of major arab caliphates were and later under the firm rule of the Ottomans. The Maghreb had an kingdom independent from the caliphs in the middles since the middle ages and ottoman rule in Algeria and Tunisia was very different than that in the middle east. They even had semi-independant states that roughly constitute the moder state of Tunisia and Algeria. And then there is european influence that happened differently. Being under the colonial rule of different powers meant that the infrastructures of the modern states that came after the decolonisation made it difficult for the arabs to unite even if they wanted to. So I think if we look at the subject from a perspective where the arabs are divided from the beginning, it's easier to grasp why they couldn't unite. And maybe they are not one big homogenous nation after all. (I'm an arab btw)
Indeed the "Arab" world is not as homogeneous as foreigners may think. The "Arab" qualifier is misleading in that it can be understood in different ways. Certainly Arabs are not ethnically homogeneous. Cultures anterior to the spread of the Arab language didn't completely dissolve in a single Arab culture. You can find noticeable differences between Tunisia (I assume you're Tunisian) where the eastern Arabic culture permeated the society deeper, and Algeria or Morocco where native Berber identity is still lively and influent. Considering the cultures predating the Arab conquest, I'd draw similar clusters as the ones you described. Arabian cluster including Middle and southern Iraq, Gulf states Saudi Kingdom; Levant cluster including northern Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel/Palestine, Jordan; Nilotic cluster including Egypt, north Sudan, Djibouti, Somalia, Yemen, Comoros islands ; Maghreb including the five Maghreb states although there could be a distinct sub cluster for Tunisia and to a lesser extent Libya as a deeper arabised closer to the mashreq sub entity.
Thank you. Great production values. And really interesting history and insights. Much appreciated. My only comment is that the maps aren’t quite as good as usual. See you next time.
@@Dontwanttoliveanymore well... Looking beyond rhetoric, it's very effective one. Chinese are now fucking up with US led world order and civilised world can't do anything. May i know which part of world you are from?
Cairo did not force the British and French to retreat from Suez in 1956 - it was diplomatic pressure from US President Eisenhower, supported by the USSR on this rare occasion, that forced a withdrawal of Anglo-French forces from the canal zone, as well as Israeli forces from the Sinai. Egypt accomplished nothing on its own here, as it was resoundingly defeated, primarily by Israel, on the battlefield. President Nasser did not secure a victory, he secured a lesser defeat.
fact that Egypt stood up to superpowers of its time England and france which both used to colonize Egypt in past ad Israel which had endless US and euro military aid was huge accomplishment on its own. There wsa stiff resistance continuously by locals and the government basically armed the entire cities of port said Ismailia Suez launching Gurelan warfare. USSR and US jumped in as a result of EGYPT not collapsing under the trio invasion. Only someone with a biased agenda would go out of his way and try to belittle a nation defending itself beating a trio of aggression.. USSR threatened to bomb London as public opinion there and many nations was pro egypt given they didnt surrender and kept on fighting. Like ukraine scenario now but off course zelnski is a champ and nasser is a bad guy cause he is arab :) on a different note...kosm mamtak.
@@patrickcloutier6801 i dont see historical contributions in you going out of your way to denay the sacrfices of thousands who died defending their country against an allied invasion of the super powers of its time. That is much more serious insult kind sir the kosm mamat 7adrtek
Using Mercator projection map in your material made North Africa and Middle East look artificially few times smaller than they are in real life in relation to northern regions. Just a suggestion. Thanks for the video.
It's much bigger issue. but, we are seeing more realistic approaches to unified political and military agendas with economical support from rich countries to less fortunate ones. Which is a good approach to overcome issues that lead to failure of previous unification attempts.
No, the Arabs don't want to unite. The poor ones are jealous of the richer ones (made rich by Allah mind you) and the rich Arabs are well aware of this.
Arabic is one of The Official Languages of Somalia But Majority of the Population Doesn't Speak it And for Djibouti its Not Even The Official Language But Majority of Population Are Somali
@@najabs123 Of course I understand Arabic is a cultural Identity, otherwise I would have said everywhere outside the peninsula aren't Arab. You're the foolish one for failing to realise both Djibouti and Somalia neither speak Arabic nor identify as Arab.
It will never happen it's like why Latin America countries except Brazil don't unite despite having common language (Spanish) and same religion (Christianity) that's show that religion and language isn't enough to unite countries.
Arab states or either republics or monarchies, but there's also a thrive for theocracies and caliphate. This struggle between republicans and monarchies were left out of the video, it dates back to the fall of the ottoman empire and the regions being taken over by british and french powers. After WW1 most modern arab countries were monarchies, some became republics through coups and revolutions, some maintained their monarchies. Another important issue that was left out is that there's other people than arabs living in that region (Kurds in the fertile crescent, Copts in Egypt, Amazighs in the Maghreb, Armenians and Greeks in Lebanon, etc.). It's too oversimplified to think the arab world as being homogeneous, let alone the arabs with their cultural and political diversity. The video can fit into other regions of the world: "why there's no latin american superstate?" The only thing the arab world can hope for is an economic union similar to the EU, or a confederation similar to Switzerland, but even that hope seems too far away as long as religion creates these divide. Unlike western countries that reformed their political environment, these countries didn't and probably will never separate religion from politics.
For me, one major reason why arabs are "states without a nation" is precisely the fact that arabian world never was a nation. The arabian empires existed as political powers at a time when the idea of a nation didn't existed. You need a pre existing feeling of cultural unity in people to build a nation. Even during the times of arabian or ottoman empires, each local ethnic group kept their own culture. You can see that in the difference between the European Union and the United States, 2 entitiies with similar size and population. The United States were build by the european colonists who had formed one separate culture. These colonist conquered the continent and almost entirely destroyed the native american nations. And they managed to build a united country and being a unique nation. In Europe, differente cultures and countries have existed for centuries. And for that reason, European Union was build as a commercial and partially political union. But there is no european nation. And it is the same for the old empires inside europe : when the idea of nations rised in the 19th century, nationalism were build at a lower level than the empire one.
America didn't really have 1 culture though, many of the founding fathers/revolutionary leaders were british but some were from other colonies like Alexander Hamilton, some were Quakers, some were scottish or scotch Irish, some like the man who helped found the american cavalry regiments were polish, and there were tons of germanic people from across central europe. Later waves of Irish also came and settled too. The US had quite a few religious groups when it was first founded with Quakers, shakers, puritans, baptists, and tons of other protestants not to mention many Catholics. When america started to expand they gained tons of french and spanish colonists, and although excluded politically they also gained tons of natives and mexicans as their border expanded westward. That's also.without bringing up the distinct african american cultures (plural). There has also always been a sizable cultural divide of the north vs south that was much more obvious in the past. Waves of immigration also brought many cultures from across europe from russian jews to italian Catholics, plus immigrants from places like China and latin america. Part of the reason for english not being 100% the official language is since during the early days of america there were tons of French, spanish, and german speakers in the US and many in the US didnt speak much english (notably the amish and mennonites even today speak their own version of german and there are still tons of spanish speaking mexicans in the southwest and still some french cajuns). Part of the reason the founding fathers venerated the Roman's so much was their civic nationalism: They bound together different cultures into a single empire. The founding fathers basically _manufactured_ american culture so they could create a melting pot which is why there are so many native american, french Canadian, and Germanic based stories in american culture. They created a "media blitz" style propaganda drive after the revolution to try and assert things like coffee drinking rather than tea to assert their new culture over the existing British culture.
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Music list pls (Song in the beginning minute)
Make a new video about the root of Ethiopian civil war( ethnic federalism and 1987 constitution)
Pls provide music list man
@@shehzadahmad3945 it depends on the region. egypt had it the worse under the ottomans, mamluk oppression remained in place. syria was relatively prosperous in part due to levantine trade with western europe. iraq stagnated under ottoman rule until the mamluk dynasty came to power, when the area experienced an economic revival. ottomans didn't do much with the hejaz other than ceremonial claims.
@@shehzadahmad3945 but then they helped the Europeans carve up the Middle East
Perhaps the biggest obstacle to unity is what we also see in Europe and Latin America: Who should gain power from a union and who should relinquish power? Everybody wants the first, no one wants the second.
Brazil is an example of a State that represents the union of several others of the same culture. The USA too. The former Spanish colonies did not have a monarchical force that united them, or a common cause like the USA. In the case of Brazil, it was the separation from Portugal declared by the Brazilian government itself which guaranteed its union to this day.
we usually figured out who would run shit by who won the war and had the largest military
I see no resemblance to Latin America. Latin America was never one big empire with the same language nor was is ever a single unity stemming from a religion or center of power. South Americas location is far from the main population centers in the world and was never a particularly strategic trade location.
Brazil has its unique history apart from the rest of Latin America, speaks Portuguese, and is coincidentally christian. It would be expected to have extremely strong ties to the US and Europe, but as there is a strong overlap in the agricultural sector with the US and Europe heavily subsidizes agriculture, Brazil has developed this trade dependency with China, Russia and to a lesser extent, the middle east. Customers on the "other side of the world" literally.
The large majority of the Spanish speaking countries have the same language and religion, yes, but are ethnically, culturally, geopolitically and economically diverse. In varying degrees, they have the same difficulties to have strong ties with the US and Europe and are also obligated to do a large chunk of their trade with asia.
Most countries get along with each other very well as there is really very little competition with each other, as like the Arab world, do most of their trading with partners outside of the continent, and mainly in commodities.
No nation in South America is particularly expansionistic. And most do not seem to have a need to be and borders seem to be very stable as they are.
MERCOSUL started out with aspirations similar to that of the EU. But I believe its progress has been extremely limited due to the failure of all the countries in the region to embrace free trade, reform the state, drop socialist/populist concepts that disguise systems full of privileges for a few at the expense of the many and the poor. It will only move forward when there is a reward mechanism to propel it forward and that is economic growth.
This would require a legal system that actually works, eliminate privileges and corruption, reducing taxes, reducing the size o the state, reducing social benefits, massive investments in infrastructure to overcome the regions difficult geography, mass reindustrialization, mass education, massive investment in research, development of hight tech industries in all sectors etc...
Frankly, stuff for decades which I will not be around to see. If anything I see many countries going in reverse. Even some that are supposedly more developed than others.
@@basilmagnanimous7011 which is why the current right wing authoritarian threat in the US is so serious and needs to be stopped
@@basilmagnanimous7011 tell that to Russia & China
"Few political forces are as potent as a sense of lost glory". that sentence deserves an award.
Quote worthy, for sure. I’ve felt for a while that the grandchildren of the defeated are among the most dangerous. They heard their grandparent’s stories of lost causes. They feel aggrieved and seek glory, not realizing that it come with a cost.
Shirvan has at least one poetic banger in every vid.
You don't even have to lose it. By so many metrics, America was doing great in 2016. Improvements could be made, inequalities could be rebalanced, but the causes were known and addressable. Yet along came some huckster proclaiming "Make America Great Again" while pitching policies that would do the opposite, and he got tens of millions to buy in.
Very MAGA feel to me... and it has catapulted a man into the presidency of the most powerful nation.
@Nisr Masry88 𓅓𓁺𓄿𓁼𓃭𓎦𓏭 𓂝 How about a Pan-Islamic Union?
Finally something more nuanced on the Arabic divide apart from just "religion"
Thank you!! The religion excuse is such a lazy argument and completely bareft of historical and political context
@UC1XN96HkLlcoy5HwrXxI7eg no there are significant numbers of shias in some of the gulf states and I believe Yemen and Oman as well
😄 saw the title and was just about to smugly pronounce "because they've been at it since Muhammed eightysixed it" but maybe I should watch the vid instead...
@@najabs123 completely?
religion plays a big ass role in the anti-state sentiment. people still reject the values on which modern states are based. secularism is the obvious example.
as an Arab the question is something discussed widely and these are my points:
1.Centers of Power: the center of the culture, humanity and Financial and Political are Different, Egypt and Saudi arabia each claim it, each with a wildly different Way of rule.
2. Political differences: the 22 countries each has a wildly different way of rule, from absolute Monarchies to Army centralised governments, affect the ability of creating a union without injustices.
3. Sectarianism: Arab world is Made up of Sunnis, Shiates and Christians, in which non are able to concede some power.
4. Colonial Rule and its effects:
while it could be a cliche to just Blame Colonisation, but its affects in regard of splitting the countries without minding Demographical differences and the Cultural influence they applied to the people they controlled made it worse, either it is by language, cultural or the geopolitical connections they had.
And lastly as a Yemeni and an arab I feel sad that we are drifting away from each other although our similarities and brotherhood are far greater than our issues and differences
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what about nations not wanting anything to do with other nations? it's logical
@@portalsevil Yeah but deep down it isnt as ultimate as it is. Logically yes, but the shared traditions, customs, language and religion makes a logical standpoint on whether there should be a united arab state.
Like my friend said, and an example of this would be Russia, as it has so many ethnic Mongolians that are living in Siberia, they don't want anything to do with Russia, but there isn't any problems in their life. (OK, excuse me, That was a bad example)@@portalsevil
I find colonialism an interesting aspect in causing the conflicts In the world. For example the British split India based on religion, and it didn't solve the conflict and some might say it made it worse, there is still disagreement and violence between the Hindus and Muslims even though they have their own countries in India and Pakistan, another example is Ireland, where Northern Ireland had a democratic vote to remain in the UK, which seems like the fairest way to handle the situation, yet there is still conflict and violence after, split along ethnic lines. So it seems like the fairest way for an empire to deal with a situation it has still doesn't solve the conflict. Another example is Sudan, where Sudan is majority Muslim and Arab, but South Sudan was majority African and Christian. If you ask me we need to consider redrawing many of the worlds borders because people just cant seem to get along.
“Pride is not the opposite of shame, but the source of it. True humility is the only antidote to shame.”
-General Iroh
This would not be a bad place to start.
Funny thing is that pride is the one thing God hates most in the Bible.
@@dmeads5663 Most beloved character in cartoons. The character depth and worldbuilding in that show was insane
Easier said than done for sure. Right now even more historically stable states are having trouble with "pride" in a romanticized idyllic past destabilizing them in the face of the rapid changes over the course of the 21st.
Funny finding a avatar refrence here.
But somehow also logical in context.
@@dylangtech lol what do you know 😆
"Arabs, have become states, without a nation"
Yeah, as an Arab, yeah, that hit hard
True, it hits deep.
that doesn't make sense though, no two Arabs are the same. Maghrebi and Egyptian Arabs aren't the same blood, heritage, or history as Iraqi/Kuwaiti Arabs.
@@kevinyonan2147
They are the same
I am Palestinian, I was born at Jordan, and I've been living at Algeria for the past 6 years.
The similarities amongst Arabs are far more than the differences, we speak the same language, we share the same history, we have the same religion, we have the same troubles and we hold very similar traditions.
@@Mohtellawi that's not true actually. Palestinian Arabs and Jordanian Arabs are similar but you're still not similar to Maghrebi, Misreen, or Iraqi Arabs.
@@kevinyonan2147 the differences and simalrities amongs arab throughout the Arab worls are comparable to the differences and simalrities among differen regions in tthe same contry!
I found it wierd to consider me (northeren Yemeni Arab) different than other Arab in Moroco, but similler to another Arab from south Yemen!
these division are totally arbitrary!
Shirvan overestimates the role of geography, but doesn't mention the mentality and diversity of political systems in the Arab world.
Egyptians will not let Syrians rule over them and Saudi Monarchs will not let Moroccan Monarchs over their country. You have monarchies, dictatorships and some kind of sectarian democracies in this countries, where it is simply impossible to gather everybody under one banner. Whether ther is Israel or some desert between them plays a lesser role.
Arabs hasn't had unity after Gamal Abdul Nasser death
I don't think so...
Geography plays major role not mindset
@@ranjithvurs1086 Geography is the founding father of mindset.
@@ranjithvurs1086 Then tell me why does Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Bahrain have a monarchy, but Egypt, Syria, and Iraq not? How is the political system influenced through geography?
@@ranjithvurs1086 Nasser was able to unify state so differents like Syria and Yemen. Plus, his leadership wasn't doubted in the Arab world. After his death, nobody has been able to do the same
As an arab (Egyptian) , i love an actually in depth explanation of this situation bringing the info to the foreigners.
I know - this motivated me to start creating my own content on Arab/Muslim geopolitics.
You're a foreigner to us in the west and always will be.
Also I can’t call the countries in Africa the Arab world. Unfortunately for the natives that been there…you’re occupying the land in North Africa.
@@Kitiwake everyone is a foreigner in other people's country, nothing worth getting offensive for
@@ricardotolbert1797 hahahahahaha 😂 sure thing .
Sykes: “How should we divide up the Ottoman Empire…….Straight line?”
Picot: “Straight line.”
@Aqeel -محمود you’re either lying for the meme, completely misinformed, or delusional
@@anon2427 or he was making a joke
oversimplified references
Imagine if they had done this at the Peace of Westphalia...
@@Nygaard2 imagine if they did that after the 7 years war.
The ability to build a great nation and rise to superpower status requires more than just population, territory, or resources; it requires vision, unity, determination, and a belief in the possibility of something better.
It requires a shared identity, reliability to facilitate trust and a shared vission.
Unfortunately, our easy-going Muslim people generally scoff at such thinking. and because of the corruption in our governments and lack of vision, the idealists and visionaries go and join sectarian groups instead. Lack of quality education is the primary issue.
@@JMAssainatorzYes, shared identity is important, But ultimately we can only identify with so many people on certain scales. I think it's more important to have unifying beliefs.
And islam will prevail, God willed it.
Tolerance
I would love to see a similarly nuanced take on sub-Saharan Africa which is often viewed as a monolith but contains many fascinating undercurrents
Honestly. I used to complain about that but it's where the money is. Muslims and those other groups pay these TH-camrs to make these videos. So if we want more on sub Saharan African videos we gotta put money up which we don't.
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@@JcLazy1 I don't think this Caspian report is corrupt, almost all of their videos take a very moderate stance, for a good example look at the video on the Armenia Azerbaijan war. I don't think anyone is directly paying for this video.
@@JcLazy1 I agree superficially with you. There most likely is less money in a video about Sub Saharan Africa compared to one on Pan Arabism, but not because of people literally paying them to argue for certain points. There is just less of an audience for it. Less audience means less add watch time, less sponsorship money and less patreons gained.
@@Kenionatus I am stating what you Said from the first half. Not the second. I am not stating anybody is paying money to push an agenda or way of thinking. If it came of cross like that. I didnt mean to offend Muslims or any group. I am just saying certain demographics of kings and general, caspain and etc, don't want to watch sub Sahara Africa. I can't fault them. I fault sub Sahara for not supporting financially in some sort of making their own channel or this channel.
I’m so grateful to have come across this amazing channel in the last year and I feel like it informs me without bias, thank you for all the work you do.
"without bias", lol
The Arab world as '"States without a nation" is the kind of beautifully powerful summary we're used to from this channel. Bravo!
I disagree with that, Egyptians have a nation as do Moroccan and these deeper roots than the Arab invasion.
Pan-Arabist is a flawed construct.
The UN is highly western based and most of world countries from Asia to Africa to eastern Europe to south America refuse LGBTQ refuse feminism refuses the banking system refuses the modern slavery ( salve wage ) refuses western subjective vales ,but yet they push it on all of us. using utilitarianism then the west shouldn't be pushing their values on the majority and the majority can take down the west. that's why in political science there's a famous quote " the liberal global order is neither liberal nor global " ( meaning only western based and other countries don't anticipate on it or they will be sanctioned and fought by the west ). also, this is by definition slavery because they tell us what to do and if we refuse, they punish us , starve us or kill us and we have to follow them when they are the minority. so utilitarianism doesn't work and they are enslaving us.
what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ".
even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective.
even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here they can't really answer. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on.
what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable.
one thing else if they don't have the concept of good or bad of any subject other than morality that means it has no value ( worthless ).
for example, asking an atheist is science good or bad ? if he/she did reply with good and bad they can't prove it therefore, it's subjective and has no value at all since they don't have the concept of Good and bad.
therefore, all their " facts" ( which are hypothesis not facts ) are worthless if it has no value ( good and bad ).
they can't detect which is fact and not if they don't hold on any value and even if they did they can't prove it since it's subjective.
We live in a world that ran by subjective people who can't prove their value or the value of anything and can't prove even their subjectivsim and it's value! Yet they have the audacity to tell us what's good or bad and what's valuable and not and what's true and not.
also brain is nothing but an organ according to their world view which means they cannot base anything on it and it's all chemical reactions which delude itself on having meaning when there's non which means all their claims as their existence worthless meaningless and untrue. which means they argue for nothing.....
add also, that all countries are consumers to the west ( the producer ) and that is why the west is always rich because they refuse other countries to produce their own products or their own weapons because with that money comes then influence comes and they refuse that and that's why they attack and sanction too. unfortunately , we are the playground of superpowers. the west even without Islam rising is digging their own grave since they barely have any children. with Islam they will be annihilated by our raising alone and they will fall easily. if they use nukes , then they will have to live like rats in grounds for the rest of their existence ( that if earth survived ). they will not use it because they stand for nothing therefore, they will not go to that ever.
What does that mean? If you don't mind me asking.
@@ahmadfrhan5265 same in post soviet brother. Just eastern european aerospace engineer student who tries to understand why eastern europe is not good and how to make it better
Nicely condensed and connected. You hit all the necessary points - and left out the not quite so necessary deftly. Great work as usual, thank you.
I was just very disappointed he did not mention the GCC
"hey let's unite"
"Yes"
"Yes"
"Yea"
"Ok then, who's the leader?"
"Me ofc"
"Mee!"
"Me obvs"
Basically bcs of this
Yeah, these idiots can't just do a fucking federation like the EU
They're a lot more similar in everything than the different European countries, yet they are more disjointed lmao
It's same old, that's the reason eu worked out because at least on the surface it appears to have common leadership. Besides, leadership in mena region has a tendency to censor everyone which makes interchanged of solutions impossible.
EU does rotate the leadership every 6 months or so, that is how they resolved that issue.
lol
Lmao
Succinct analysis set to haunting music and well-chosen video bytes. Top-notch channel. I have a Master's in Poli-Sci, and I admire the depth of information that is so effectively condensed into "Why Do I Care?" segments. Great stuff.
I love how much I learn about things I never knew watching CR's videos. I'd like to think I follow politics and history a lot but I always learn new things or new perspectives I never knew existed. 10/10 again sir!
Keep up your search for knowledge. Caspian report makes decent videos but he is prone to bias, omission of information and in some cases blatant mistakes.
He’s a decent source with interesting videos but not the geopolitical messiah many in the comments section make him out to be
@@Zara-T_780 those who decry bias in someone are usually incredibly biased themselves.
@@Zara-T_780 can you give me one example of a yt channel that is more neutral that CR?
Perun is a good one that deals with certain geopolitics.
Academy of ideas is one of the best channels on this platform. Not geopolitics related though
@@dekaaizer2550 shirvans biases became very obvious on his Armenia/Azerbaijan video.
The question preventing the formation of an Arab superstate is this: who would be its leader? It’s difficult to get the leader of any nation to voluntarily give up their power to another, especially when those leaders believe that ruling is their God-given right.
a council of equal nations with an alphabetically rotating chair. Each nation of the Arabian-Persian Union would send a diplomat in, similar to the current UN ambassador system. each year (or every X years) the next nation in line's ambassador to the APU would be the chairman of the Union
who is the leader of the world or UN?
@@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 the UNSC
Sometimes people mixed up Islamic expansion & Arab state. Completely different
Shukri Al-Quwatli already gave up his democratic presidency for the greater good. He was a good man, but Nasser didn’t appreciate the sacrifices Syria made for the unity and he made a shit hole out of Syria.
A superstate can only have one leader, and expecting the rest to just give up power will never happen
Exactly, it's like a hydra with many heads, each wanting to be the leader and biting the others.
Yeah it's seems like the only why to unite is through a great war, which nobody wants, I hope.
especially if the base system of governance is a dictatorship and a policy of religious dogma.
This is why the European Union has become more and more authoritarian lately.
The UN is highly western based and most of world countries from Asia to Africa to eastern Europe to south America refuse LGBTQ refuse feminism refuses the banking system refuses the modern slavery ( salve wage ) refuses western subjective vales ,but yet they push it on all of us. using utilitarianism then the west shouldn't be pushing their values on the majority and the majority can take down the west. that's why in political science there's a famous quote " the liberal global order is neither liberal nor global " ( meaning only western based and other countries don't anticipate on it or they will be sanctioned and fought by the west ). also, this is by definition slavery because they tell us what to do and if we refuse, they punish us , starve us or kill us and we have to follow them when they are the minority. so utilitarianism doesn't work and they are enslaving us.
what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ".
even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective.
even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here they can't really answer. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on.
what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable.
one thing else if they don't have the concept of good or bad of any subject other than morality that means it has no value ( worthless ).
for example, asking an atheist is science good or bad ? if he/she did reply with good and bad they can't prove it therefore, it's subjective and has no value at all since they don't have the concept of Good and bad.
therefore, all their " facts" ( which are hypothesis not facts ) are worthless if it has no value ( good and bad ).
they can't detect which is fact and not if they don't hold on any value and even if they did they can't prove it since it's subjective.
We live in a world that ran by subjective people who can't prove their value or the value of anything and can't prove even their subjectivsim and it's value! Yet they have the audacity to tell us what's good or bad and what's valuable and not and what's true and not.
also brain is nothing but an organ according to their world view which means they cannot base anything on it and it's all chemical reactions which delude itself on having meaning when there's non which means all their claims as their existence worthless meaningless and untrue. which means they argue for nothing.....
It's good to see a non heavily propagated version of this story since I was born and raised in jordan and this story was told to me in a very biased way with a lot of details missing like how Egypt and syria were together, this was never taught to us in school so keep up the good work!
Hey just out of curiosity could you tell me/us more about how it was taught to you and maybe your own personal opinion?
@@moinmoin2720 pretty sure it was in 12th grade when they stopped teaching about Europian, our history in the middle ages and random civilizations and began teaching us about our own recent history and if i remember correctly the united arab republic was mentioned but in like half a page's worth and nothing was about how jordan and iraq tried to to the same with their alliance as a response and how the iraq coup was made by loyalists to the Egyptians just to name a few details that were hidden by our school books and my personal opinion:
I just want to leave this failed, paranoid society in any way possible, a society that thinks everything happening is about them like how every action taken by America is to undermine the arabian world, they are undermining them selves no one cares enough or has the resources to do that.
Always a good Monday when I see a Caspian Report by our host, Shivran. Top content.
He thinks Africa is Arab. How is this top content
@@John-pk9rw North Africa*
@@JunaidKhan-pq8ji North Africa is in Africa. Hence why it’s called North AFRICA. Not North Arabia.
@@John-pk9rw Your comment sounds so stupid. Arab countries are those which speak Arabic language. And a good number of those countries are situated in Africa.
@@sicksaga007 1) Senegal, Congo, Cote d’ivoir, Cameroon etc speak French. Are those countries French? Try again 2) I’m from Morocco and I can’t speak Arabic. Try again.
The quality of your videos is OUTRAGEOUS!
Great work as always, and the writing is getting ever better. A good follow up would be a video on the challenges for Latin America (or just south america) integration and the "IIRSA" plan. In fact, I would love to see more of LA on the channel. Cheers!
Internal trade is needed first, after that the economies of different Arab regions will have to be slowly lifted to be of a somewhat comparable level once again. Then Union should be proposed and started like the EU where each country is independent but strongly integrated with the rest. Finally, a federation should be started which unites the different countries into one states but with autonomy.
This is a long process and will be difficult but in the end it will be very much worth it.
Yes u r right but here lies the problem: they don't want to loose power and economics is power.
The problem is that with a Union like the EU other already fragiele Arab states like Algeria or Egypt would be in more danger because of countries like Lebanon or Tunisia or Yemen....
I like your idea but it unrealistic unfortunately.
Arabs hate each other as much as they hate the western world.
read about the GCC they are already doing that but was not mentioned in the video.
@@Dani-zh5lx The GCC is nothing like the EU, it is just an organisation to counter Iranian influence.
Interesting. The final quote, "A nation without a state and states without a nation" makes a lot of sense. I think there will have to be a secular state based out of Egypt and an Islamist state based out of Arabia or Iran. The victor of Arabia-Iran is going to be important.
Iran is not arabic county
Senin beyin yok
Iran is Shia
The iranian state is not islamic AT ALL. They practice idol worship and do not give fair trial to people in court, and they block access to information. The qur'an tells people to seek knowledge.
" Arabs have become a state without a nation" is really a good way to describe the current state of affairs in the Arab world today 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I agree with some of the points, however the idea that it's a geographical problem is a bit strange. Past Muslim empires governed all those regions together no problem, that's before the existence of modern transport/communication. Also imo, it's not so much about a Muslim failure as much as it's about Western success, success in strategically dividing the region and establishing Israel. The middle east has been potent in spawning Muslim empires for almost 1300 years straight. The 20th-21st century is the first time it has failed to do so since ~700 AD. This is partly thanks to the industrial revolution which pushed the West light years ahead of the Muslim world. With such huge power gap, implementing insurance policies against potential future rivalry becomes easy.
Honestly, he did a pretty good job going over the Arab failures, but I feel as though after a while an Arab superstate stopped really be arab and started really being more of an Islamic superstate. The point though is that after WW1 western influence has divided and continues to divide us today. Isreal, American puppets, American intervention, Russian puppets, French influence in Africa. I mean there's literally a handbook for the CIA on how to keep the Arab world divided. Though I've got a good deal of hope for Turkey they've been doing a good job of keeping up sharia and staving off secularism.
That would sum up my reply, because the first half of the video has many misleading and false statements that only say that the presenter just doesn't know.
one of the biggest barrier to growth and development, is the tendency to readily blame others for your shortcomings and incompetences.
if you are not being held down by physical force, then you have yourself to blame for being down.
@@mariacheebandidos7183 I realize that this is true in some cases, and it may be true to some extent here as well, but there's only so much that can be done when the power gap is this huge. Even in the early days of Islam's establishment, it could have not grown nearly as much if the Roman or Persian empires weren't already dwindling.
The Iranian revolution in 1979 was one potential movement that could have pushed the region out of Western control, but it wasn't successful because, again, there's a huge power gap.
China managed to become a rival because the West dropped their guard on them, there wasn't nearly as much worry or expectation that they could reach this stage. If the West knew where China could be things would have been done differently. The Hong Kong, Uyghur and Taiwan propaganda all came out very recently, too little too late.
@@mariacheebandidos7183 ... I do agree and people usually hate me for blaming them for their problems, but in this case, yes, there is an actual physical force, I wouldn't go in further details because of that "force" :D
As someone who recently found this channel, I just want to say that the great critical thinking & consideration shown in every video is such a refreshing change of pace compared to the tik-tok style of content so prevalent these days. Also narration + visuals are amazing... Anyways, just leaving a comment to help beat the algorithm lol
I would love for Caspian Report to do a similar video on Latin America. The Spanish speaking world has so much in common but are very nationalistic as well. Not mention the gap with Brazil & the rest of LATAM.
Hopefully, I'm Spanish and I would like an latin union, maybe with Portugal and Spain too.
I always feel quite more similar to latinamericans than the rest of Europe. We only are similar to Italian people, anything else.
I hope that our politics think about this.
It can be a economic union with a limited common policy and international front. But Latin America is not as homogeneous as people think. Little in common has a Uruguayan with a Colombian or a Cuban with a Peruvian or a Mexican with an Argentine.
At most you can see the southern cone going into a economical political union like the EU with Brazil and Argentina as it's core.
@@Argentvs Thats BS All of us share Religion, Language, Genes which are fundamental our different cuisines, accents, are secondary.
@@sociedadnortena9514 no. For religion I am atheist, Argentina and Uruguay have less than 20% of practicing devotes, nominally catholic but no Ody goes to church nor gives a shit about it. We are more atheist and agnostics than believers.
Language, you don't speak as me.
The BS is the latinamerican union we are nothing alike. I have in common to a Mexican the same a Yank has with with a South African. Same colonial origin does not unite you. We weren't never even part of the same administration.
Nope nope and nope, language means nothing, I am not going to unity with people 8000 km away just because they barely use similar gramatical rules and words that doesn't even sound the same.
@@Argentvs " economic union with a limited common policy" - that's harder to do than one thinks.
The EU started that way, then they realized that more common policy is needed, if they want everyone to play by the same rules and have the same rights, because there is always one that finds a way to exploit the system, or is afraid to lose influence (*cough, UK).
In the end you end up with a bloated and messy bureaucracy.
It's actually amazing that the EU is still going strong, but serious bureaucratic reconsideration is needed. The EU only survived and prospered because of serious funding from the major economies, who have enough economic power to get throw tough times like the 2008 crisis, the Greek (6th at that time) bankruptcy and the 2020 pandemic.
Latin America doesn't have such strong economies to act like the backbone of a Union, and support it in times of crisis. Even if there were some, would they be prepared and willing to give up some of their wealth and influence, to help poorer countries ? Would they want a Union in the first place, if they were already rich ?
An economic trade union in Latin America would be great, but they have to keep if focused and limited to only that.
Imagine Muqtada al-Sadr, Abdel al-Sisi, Bashir Assad, Mahmoud Abbas, and MBS debating each other in a parliament…I can’t do it.
The subsequent civil war would be epic.
LOL, it could be a business thou: insted of a parliament it would be a boxing ring and insted of civil war it would be a show. It would make a lot of money.
LOL, right on!
@Nisr Masry88 𓅓𓁺𓄿𓁼𓃭𓎦𓏭 𓂝 imagine lne currency and free travel throughout the Arab world.. I hope..
@@puraLusa who you taking in the ring? 🤣👀
"Geography is no friend to Arad world"
Laughs in Oil money
Oil money can actually be a curse. Saudi is very dependant on oil price and the refining corporation. Other country it's just necessary to find oil to start having "insurgent problems", a great example is mozbique cause oil exporters end up messing with these to control and monopolize the biz. Way better to have a geography based on industry and ideas and trade. That's what made the past empires in the region - they were big traders and industrial: they wanted peace to sell their items in a competing market.
@4K 40FPS we don't know as economics thruout the world is oil dependant. But probably more criative as one needs to find a source of income.
@@puraLusa Saudi is actually aiming to not be dependent on oil (I think the plan is called 2030) so let's hope that works
@@Mlmylji the 2030 plan is not working as intended. Having a diplomatic scandals and being a totalitarian regime are incompatible with the vision presented.
That's Saudi monarchs stupidity to rely on oil, look at UAE, they are not as dependent as saudi@@puraLusa
This dream is still present in the hearts of the Arab peoples, one day it will come true, either smoothly or by force
No lmao, what are you saying? The Arab oil states would never want to merge. Moroccans and Algeria's together? We would also import eachother's problems: all those minorities and religious sects. Nah, thanks.
@@houseplant1016true, right now it would be impossible, but it will happen in the future
7:56 - Correction: it was the United States and Egypt that forced the UK, France, and Israel to withdraw, not just Egypt on its own.
Yea from what I’ve seen Israel had secured the Sinai peninsula and Gaza at the end of that war
We can also add the USSR which clearly expressed its opposition to the Franco-Anglo-Israeli maneuvers.
Egypt couldn't force anything against the other three, only the US intervention forced them to retreat
@@zaraletoustre4556 yes, I was about to say. If there was no Soviet pressure, there would be no US pressure (Nasser had not yet aligned with the Soviet Union). Hence, Britain, France and Israel would still rule over the Suez if there were no pressure from the Soviet Union.
Yeah, that was a standout error. The day the US and the Soviets taught Britain and France they were second rate powers.
This is such an important question to ask and the answers given herein are enlightening. Many thanks for this video!
America is literally known to Sabotage Third Qorld Countrys
so they cant become a Superstate.
I exactly agree! This video motivated me to make my own content on the Muslim/Arab world.
Wonderful unbiased presentation, truly informative for the uninitiated...
I was just disappointed he did not mention the GCC, he seems to ignore the Arabian peninsula
@@eavocado5890pppj GCC is a dumpfire and the arabian peninsula is only good for Oil and nothing else. Saudi is of cultural importance but the rest are just oil and gas taps
This channel is one of the best content creators on the internet. No question
Would love to see a video on Sri Lanka's current problems.
Watch indias declining democracy
Sri Lanka has no hope for the next 15 years. It needs to go back to subsistence agriculture.
@@el-jp3xp LOL....Current indian gov came after winning elections in which 900 million ppl voted.....thats literally the pinnacle of democracy...u dnt like it doesnt mean it's something else..most Indian ppl like the gov..thats literally meaning of democracy.
@@yami6499 Pff, Speak for yourself dude. Don't speak on behalf of us other Indians. Many of us are not happy with the current government.
@@HimanshuKumar-tw4fl 'many' are not happy..but most are satisfied..it's simple as that.thats the whole point of democracy and the votes reflect it.
And in all honesty, lives of pretty much everyone I know has improved by good margin in recent yrs.
Very insightful. Thank you! This is without a doubt one of the most complex and turbulent regions on Earth. There are so many angles to study that I suspect one lifetime would not be sufficient time to learn it all. But it's also an area where the history of the region both constrains their future and inspires grand imaginations of what could be. This corner of the world has never been short of surprises. I expect that you will have plenty of opportunities to revist the region in the years ahead. I am looking forward to those videos.
you can "revisit the region" now just go to paris or london.
Exactly my thinking - that's why I decided to create geopolitical videos on the region myself!
Great video! One quick note though: During the Fertile Crescent Union phase (just after WWII), it would have been worthwhile to highlight the role of the SSNP and the concept of a Greater Syrian state that was actually opposed to Pan-Arabism!
As a non Arab the reason is simple, Arabs view each other as different largely driven by class, the rich gulf Arabs view everyone else as inferior. I mean they would rather hire Filipinos and Indian pagans than fellow Arabs in their sparkling cities despite record unemployment in many Arab nations.
This is really interesting material. I appreciate the effort you put into providing it. Many thanks!
I was just disappointed he did not mention the GCC
Shared language and religion aren’t enough to create a country. There’s a huge variety in customs, traditions, history and dialects between these countries. A more reasonable unions would be regional based (Arabia, The Levant, the Maghreb) and all of them being federations
You also failed to mention two examples of unification attempts, The UAE, and Yemen, whereas the UAE was a success, Yemen’s unification is on its death bed.
Also the rafidah would not expect the followers of Sunnah or the as leaders
@@bulldogface8259 will we accept a ahle-tashaiyo as our leader?
Then how come India is a country they have many cultures, languages & many different religions & India has been divided for centuries
@@syedasifhussain2074 because india was a british project. It was united by force by the british. And then left as such to pressure the eastern flank of the islamic world. But by Allah's grace Pakistan was the counter project created by the divine decree, as a result india is to this day struggling to contain a country one-fourths its own size.
@@syedasifhussain2074 Britain and decent geography
I 💖💕 u CaspianReport and I 💕💖 ur team. I'm going through a rough time, mentally. Intellectual, geopolitical stuff, like the topics you make videos on, Honestly helps my overall mental health. Thank you.
James, I have a friend that went through PTSD.
He would build a small fire from time to time and talk
to Grandfather Fire. It helped him.
Great video essay. I have learned so much from Caspian Report. I have a feeling we are not done paying for the illegal war with Iraq.
“thought it is easy to attribute [insert historical or current event] to culture or personality, these are usually mere manifestations of geopolitical landscapes”
I should save this and have it framed in my classroom.
The Arab Nationalism is almost dead, The Arabs reject it and if there will be an Arab Superstate it will be more Democratic with Muslim Identity.
If it’s based on Democracy it will be like Turkey, Stable and thriving.
With 450 million citizens 60 of them under age 30 and more than 60% of World Natural Resources and the Most strategic location in the world, It could easily become a superpower in an afternoon.
"The principles of justice and righteousness are linked to achieving security and stability in the world, particularly in the Middle East. Over many years, some have wrongfully sought to attain stability through oppression and tyranny. Some of us have, alas, applauded their bad deeds. But now that the peoples of the region have regained their freedom, they will not tolerate being deprived of their rights, whether by their own leaders or outside forces"
- Mohommad Morsi
He was wrong: vast majority of peace thru history were made by a centralized power that lasted long enough for new generation forget the injustices. No difference between one reagion or the other.
@@puraLusa right but he is talking about American intervention.
@@princehamza890 "but but its only right and moral when groups aproved by me do it, when murica does than its wrong and imoral"!!!!
Preach to another gulible ignorant.
The middle is a poor land, never in the history of the Middle East has had this much peace. It only because the United Statas and Globalization has created so much stability but now the United States is pulling back and you can see what already happening in Lebanon.
May Allah have mercy on Mohammed Morsi. He was the best president of Egypt.
Thank you for your great work in bringing context to the world.
Brilliant Insights and Analysis!!!
The more I see your new introduction, the more obsessed I am with it.
This is so similar to Hispanic America, I'm costa rican and even though there's almost no difference between us and Colombia, México, Panama, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Argentina, etc. we are still divided into 20 nations and can't even agree to create a single market or something like the EU, I hope arabs can unite and take your position in the world because you deserve better.
That might not be so good ?
Islam will come to dominate it and then it will once again want to dominate the world . That would be disaster for the world
There is a huge different
Hispanics have talent to build decent middle income economies
Arabs can't do this at all
The only decent Arab countries are the Gulf from oil not talent
@@phylicia595 yes that's if you're looking at a perspective of someone whose entire mindset/ opinions have been brainwashed by the Tv
@@phylicia595Arabs can't do that? Egypt, Morocco, Algeria are pretty decent. Lebanon was very rich, until the economic crisis. It had a huge banking sector. Syria and Iraq were also very rich until the war and the revolution. Jordania is a beautiful example, it's even landlocked and still doing pretty good.
@@houseplant1016 north african lands are dumps compared to Argentina and even Mexico. Despite Mexicans getting a bad rep in Latin lands. They're still better
An analysis of whether there have been external forces that also contributed to disunity would be useful.
External no? Tribalist barbarian ideology under a brainless and regressive religion will always be their failure
There were..
He will not do it because of his personal bias and his western sponsorship, it is obvious that western power never wants a united arab world. Samuel P. Huntington in his Clash of Civilization book indirectly warned about arab superpower so there are always some subversion strategy against it in the present world order agendas
There's no need for extarnal forces, they do a good enough job fighting each other. Same as the Europeans used to 🤣
@@mynameisnotimportant845 - And yet, so so many foreign bombs fall on Arab cities across the world. Makes things a might bit difficult, don’t ya think?
I love that for the music you chose a version of « ghariba nass » which translates to « people are weird »
What a marvellous historical analysis! I only wish you had pointed out the inherent tension between tribalism in the Arab world and the very notion of the modern state - let alone a super-state.
I don't think tribalism (involving real tribes, at least) holds much weight in Arab politics today. Tribes certainly exist and certain big and prominent tribes often look out for their own, promoting each other to important positions in their businesses or the government
Tribes now exist mainly as large familial clans defined by blood rather than an independent political identity with its own shared interests.
In Saudi, for example, prominent tribes and their leaders mainly hold a ceremonial role while the real power is exercised by the core princes belonging to the Saudi family
@@RexGalilae it hold enormous weight, all over the Arab world. It very much defines the nature of all political allegiance.
Kin-based tribalism is also the reason Arab countries mostly have ineffective militaries. Soldiers' allegiances to their tribal leaders overrides any sense of nationalism. Look up the article "Why Arabs lose wars" by Norvell B. De Atkine.
@@lexparsimoniae2107
The last major Arab war was 1-2 generations ago. Things have radically changed since then. You realize that, right?
@@RexGalilae From an Israeli that works with Arabs almost everyday, I assume you that tribalism is a huge factor from day to day house lives to even armed militia's in their villages.
@@RexGalilae Saudi military with the full logistical force of the US behind it cannot even handle a bunch of sporadic Yemeni tribes. That's today, not two generations ago.
You realise that, right?
Thank you. A timely video on an interesting subject away from other media driven subjects.
One of the Big ones I heard of was nobody could agree on who would run such a conglomeration and internal bickering quickly set in.
That will always be the case, it is human nature.
one Palestinian islamist refers to Arab kings and presidents as the "security guards" appointed by the colonial west to maintain the divisions.
Exactly what the Ottomans found out.
That's why India, Brazil, the US and the EU are democracies so people can choose who to run them.
@@micha2909 except that in the US, there is no correlation at all between voters' opinion and what is actually legislated as law. There's published research on this. The power of lobbying groups has rendered democracy in the US a farce and no more than a popularity contest with no implications on the legislative.
As an arab seeing this try and fail each time is so painful
my friend it is the puppet masters nightmare
It brings so much joy to me seeing your false God fail.
I’d definitely enjoy more detail on this. My learning of the past histories of this region has a lot to do with Rome and it’s influence over trade and how the issues of trade realigned what I understood is Islamic integration. I guess it all depends on which period of history we are trying to understand. Thank you. May this Arab state exist in the near future.
No, may pan-Arabism be through in the dust bin of history.
The ideology has meant suppression of local culture and languages.
The ideology is historically baseless and denies the diversity of history’s is culture.
Being absolutely devastated 800 years ago by the Mongols probably had a more drastic affect than trade standards being recycled. Along side the founding of Islam, the Fall of Baghdad is the 1/2 most important events to happen to Islamic Culture.
The lack of integration in Europe is because the Christians and Muslims were largely at each others throats over Spain, and the subsequent crusades, for basically all of the history. It was definitely not simply the nuance of trade that caused the divisions, but rather the zealous nature of both sides fighting to show how strong their God is.
Obviously this is a waxing and waning tension between these peoples, sometimes matters were settled in the field, and sometimes they were negotiated, and even celebrated between the people. Despite their differing opinions on the Abrahamic God. (Yes religion alone is a HUGE factor along with everything else like culture and histories.)
Chinese mindset?? Why would a state like this exist?? Would it bring better prosperity for its citizens?? No, it wouldn't. Multiple smaller states that are friendly to each other is the way to go.
@@Bayard1503 Good points- thanks.
@@Iambrendanjames Mongols didnt occupy Arab land, they stopped in Iraq. Most of Arab world was safe from Mongols
This is such a dense subject, I reckon you could have spread this out over multiple episodes @CaspianReport.
The Sykes-Picot agreement alone and its repercussions could fill enough for a 60min episode.
Hi, are you going to make a video about the coalition planned by Israel, the United States and Arab countries ???
Beautifully explained
"Why there is no Arab superstate"
Because the same problem happens over and over again for over a milenia.
WHO'S GONNA RULE IT.
Federation
me
Not only that, but why would I as a Saudi citizen would want to spread the wealth of my country with punch of poor Arab countries who never shared their wealth in the past with the Arabian peninsula. Rest assured that if any of those oil fields were outside the gulf no one would care enough to even consider us as an equal Arab let alone be part of their superstate.
@@mrbilter83 not just arabs, no one wants to share their wealth
@@al3ndlib
"Rest assured that if any of those oil fields were outside the gulf no one would care enough to even consider us as an equal Arab let alone be part of their superstate."
Saudi-Arabia and other Arabian states barely received any Syrian refugees.
Countries like Lebanon took in so many refugees that nearly a quarter of their population is a Syrian refugee.
Unstable countries like Iraq even took in refugees. As did Jordania and Egypt.
Distant non-Arab countries in Europe took in a bunch of them too. So did Turkey, which took in a whopping >3 million.
I get where you're coming from, but let's be honest: Saudi-Arabia is beyond selfish. It also rarely contributes to humanitarian aid, whilst even poorer countries do.
Meanwhile, they still have a king that owns how many cars, how many palaces, how many...? And the migrants they do allow are treated as slaves. The money they have besides that is invested in propaganda (on social media), skyscrapers and other architectural stunts, hiring art etc. to draw Western tourists, as they need a source of income and the oil is pretty much gone; or in the Cold War they're fighting with Iran/Shia factions.
"who never shared their wealth in the past with the Arabian peninsula."
Are you sure? Because when a muslim (and most Arabs are muslims) goes to Mecca for his mandatory pilgrimage. Do you think he comes empty-handed? That's just one example.
Somalia and Djibouti are not Arab nations, but they are politically more aligned with arab countries.
You aren't arab but you are Muslims.. and we are proud to have you with us
Northern Somalia (Somaliland)‚ Djibouti‚ and even half of Eritrea has a lot of Arabic(Origin) tribes and Arab cultural imprint even before Islam as many migrations came from Yemen and Southern Arabia.
The same happened between Yemen/Oman (Hadhramut) and the Comoros Islands
They are semitic people and using semitic languages like arabs or assyrians or jews, Ethiopia should be included in arab world but they were not politically aligned with most of middle east.
@@AliTSaddam the video says Arab world. What do we share in this world? I. E if you're not Arab, then this world does not belong to you. Change the title if you want us with you.. Otherwise,, we aint Arabs.. We have our own land, culture and language. Capish.
We're Arabs we have been culturally and religiously integrated with the Arab world a lot of somali tribes come from Arab backgrounds for example the daroods who originate from Oman and partially Yemen. We're proud Arabs.
We are seeing a more realistic approaches to unify political and military agendas with economical support from rich countries to less fortunate ones. Which is a good approach to overcome issues that lead to failure of previous unification attempts.
This is assuming the West/China/Russia etc would be interested in a stable and unified MENA.
I can see the EU needing a stable region because of migrants but Russia and even some Western states have done their best to make the situation worse in the region.
Very well done and truthful video!
Same reason why there's no christian superstate. The unfortunate arabization of the middle east led us to believe that those countries are more alike than they really are.
From my understanding as an Arab from Saudi Arabia, it is impossible to have one superstate, I do believe the people will wish for it but the leaders and governments will not allow that, but there is a better alternative, we have the Arabs league and for me I wish for it to have the same function as the EU to allow free trades between us allow Arabs to move from one country to the other I mean it will do wonders, Egypt right now is overcrowded with people with no jobs, they can simply travel to the gulf states and work there with no restrictions, we can exchange ideas to better yourself and strengthen our identity as one people, but I guess I can only dream of something like that.
The EU is a confederation on it's way to becoming a federation.
We have an elected European Parlament, a EU Government - the European Commission.
As for an Arab speaking free trade area, that has no economic basis.
The Magreb nations have far more powerful links with the EU than they have with the rest of the Arab speaking states.
The problem is the “ideas” Egypt would bring would directly correlate to overthrowing the monarchy. And it would have validity too since Egyptians are both arabs and Muslim; the population would atleast here them out. So It’s better for Saudi’s to bring in non arabs especially non Muslim ones too .I.e Indians.
For that u would need a certain level of common legislation for comerce and civil rights which u don't agree between urself with very different levels of islamic jurisprudence.
It can't work if no one is willing to compromise.
That could never happen. Islam is too intolerant, even of itself.
@@Shatterfury1871 Arabs have not fought two world wars like Europeans and they have no inherent racist problem in their religion and majority of Arabs want Union, if Europeans can make EU the Arabs and Muslims at large can definitely unite because there is no other way of coming out of humiliation and slavery of colonial powers. The only Problem is that dominant world powers and corrupt elites classes of Arab world don't let it happen for their vested interests. But it is inevitable, sooner the better.
This was a very insightful video! Just something to note, you mentioned Slavic nationalism bolstering nationalistic movements across the Ottoman Empire, but you also included Greece in this while Greeks aren't Slavic. Small gripe but a notable one nonetheless. Keep up the good work!
Greece is not slavic, but they also revolted against the ottomans
Same with Romanians, lol
That was a brilliant n well researched report ❤ thank you
I think the unifying and destabilizing factors for arabs have always been the ethnic competition, lack of a common enemy and incentive to innovate or improve their standing other than for pride of country nowadays.
Lack of a common enemy??!!!
@@DaSpooderMan69420 Lack of a real common enemy. "Muh Jews" repeatedly proved to be poor motivation to the common soldiery of the Arab states. They could keep Palestinians from integrating, preferring to keep them in refugee camps for decades to use as a cause celebre, but that was a poor substitute for actual substantive reasons for, say, the average Egyptian in the street to feel a strong need to join the army and erase Israel.
@@DaSpooderMan69420 Well yeah, many of them will agree or disagree with whom that may be. Alliances are complex.
Yes, hate might serve as a rallying force, but proved unsustainable. The Arabs don't have binding force, a common political ideal other than religion. This is partly because all political thoughts are already eclipsed by Islam. Meaning new political ideologies and modernity would be rejected automatically.
@@DaSpooderMan69420 Outside of Israel which is so heavily propped up by super powers that it cannot be erased yea there is no common enemy. Most of the Arab world trust outsiders from Asia/Europe over each other.
03:20 - Funny how he says "jagged borders", while highlighting the most straight country borders in the world...
U can't draw a line and create countries
Excellent overview describing the cultural differences and the geopolitics. Thanks!
I was just disappointed he did not mention the GCC
In my opinion, i think the biggest obstacle is the the Arab people don't think ,discuss or even care about that idea thesedays!
Thanx for your efforts ❤
I agree with the comment by @Saturn - It's been united before, for hundreds of years, so geography isn't the real problem. But it was done before by one strong individual/country that conquered everyone else - probably not likely today. I believe the other course would be for two or three countries to form a single country and become so economically successful that others would want to join. But to become that successful would require developing an industrial, technical, entrepreneurial, and financial base that doesn't seem to exist right now. Basing your economy on natural resources seems to be time-limited. Likewise being the low-cost producer of goods. In my opinion, it probably also requires a secular government; i don't see a lot of successful theocracies out there. This video seemed to do a good job of covering the history of attempts - both successful and short-lived. A lot of history of which i wasn't aware. Thank you.
Detailed,nuanced and yet concise. Keep it up mate!
Some Slavs were also united and it didnt work out in the end ( Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union). I guess for the same reasons the arabs have.
The Soviet Union wasn't a slavic union though, it was Russian Imperialism justified by socialism, whereas yugoslavia was a unification movement. Czechoslovakia also isn't the best example as it's split wasn't really necessary and it could still reunite.
Meanwhile India and Indonesia have dozens of different ethnicities that coexist without falling part, not relying on nationalism to form a nation. It just shows how flawed and outdated the concept of a nation state is, and will especially become so in the future.
@@Maus_Indahaus I wouldn't say that's true for today's India anymore, the population is so divided due to the ruling party that it's literally a time bomb. They are going the opposite way of Gandhi.
@@雷-t3j Sure, the soviet union was more of a forced marriage, but regardless the Russians, Ukranians and Belarussians were all under one government. It is true that most people in Czechoslovakia wanted the country to stay intact, but it was going to split up sooner or later anyway (there were some economic and cultural differences between the Czechs and Slovaks that have been going on for decades, and the idea of Czechoslovakism failed to solve that) , Slovaks always believed they were recieving the short end of the stick in the country’s affairs. A reunification is really unlikely (im slovak). The two countries are simply brothers that went their own seperate ways.
I also heard of this intermarium plan propossed by Poland to create a large eastern european nation composed mostly of Slavs. That also has failed to materialize.
@@emre05x Well, if a nuclear power goes into a horrible civil war, while also having a nuclear power enemy neighbor, we're all f***ed
As an Iraqi i have been dreaming of the united Arab state ever since i saw the Arab world map on the wall in my brother's room
That dream won't die as it lives in the hearts of all Arabs and their brotherly nations.
@Τάρτησσος Well I won't refuse an Islamic system since Islam gives all the needed rights to non Muslims already
@@iqkingdomofiraq4963 good joke
@@millevenon5853 you think it's a joke now but when the last Arab state was/and will be again around no one in the whole world daired/will dare to rise his voice on us
@@iqkingdomofiraq4963 that sounds kinda radical but ok
There is a famous Arab saying that goes "Arabs agreed to never agree"
Yes, very uncompromising people (in everything)
How is that said ? If you could write it in Latin letters. I know one Arab friends told that is some like "Arab Jarab", which I think means like Arabs is a fight/mass/violence
@@canaanite23 No it doesn’t mean that. Jarab in Arabic means scabies; a very contiguous skin disease. That saying is believed to be originated from the Turks when they were ruling over massive lands of the Arabic world because they see themselves of higher level than the arabs as to say don’t deal with the arabs as you don’t deal with a person infected with scabies.
“Arabs agreed to never agree” is just a satirical saying by the common people of the Arab world, although we know sometimes satire has some deep truth within it. In Arabic it is “Ettafag ala’arb a’ala alla yattafigo”. (a’a refers to the Arabic letter ع as in the name Ali).
@@darknessLordCC
Ohh wow thank you so much for clearing that one out for me. So It's actually a racial slur. And for the saying, I might be able to surprise my friend 😜
@@jubasniper254ck3 اتفقوا العرب على ان لا يتفقوا.
I have been waiting soo long for a more in-depth look on this topic. You never fail to impress
Beautiful presentation!!
Much like the Latin American superstate, it is only shaped in our imagination
It would be interesting to cover this topic and its many attempts to form a union like: Pacific alliance, Mercosur, CAN, CELAC, ALBA, etc. Many tried to adress the issue of low internal commerce, movement of people and integration where they fell short on its objectives.
I hope both Arab and Latam states get its super-states in the near future, it will be hard due to current events, but something worth the effort.
or what if we reform the UN and gave it democratic legitimacy
Why do you hope that they get their superstates?
@@borkwoof696 so they can prosper???
@@danialhalal You are a fool if you think a super state brings prosperity.
@@TheTokkie it is the gateway to prosperity you ape. instead of bickering amongst each other, the Arabs would be unified and be able to tackle problems much easier
As a Tunisian, We should try a partial union
1_ Maghreb 🇹🇳🇩🇿🇲🇦🇱🇾🇲🇷
2_ United Arab Kingdom 🇸🇦🇶🇦🇧🇭🇰🇼🇴🇲🇦🇪
3_Republic of the Levant 🇵🇸🇸🇾🇯🇴🇱🇧
4_ Egypt -sudan 🇪🇬🇸🇩
5_Iraq 🇮🇶
6_Yemen 🇾🇪
Then for all one Arab state ❤️🤍🖤💚
They would all fight over which nation gets to rule
@sorena.afshar Unless the US decides Iran needs some freedom and democracy lol
@sorena.afshar only in your wet dreams
@@mazinal-siyabi2719 Hell no,we don't sacrifice our culture for globalist ideals.
8:00 Egypt didn't make France, Great Britian, and Israel give up control of the Suez Canal after they took it by force; the United States did.
And the USSR.
And the soviet union
And Israel didn't win against Egypt, the US did.
This video motivated me to start a geopolitical channel focused on the Arab/Muslim world ❤
The Ottomans were the superpower, controlling Turkey, Balkans, Greece, Egypt, Iraq, Arabia, Syria and the Levant, but by the time of WWI their state, style of administration, and military was badly outdated. And they were carved up as a result.
yes
Superpower in slavery.
Ottoman scientific contributions:
CERO
@@JohnDoe-kg6gy According to you kid
@@Myanmartiger921 hyperpower
The UN is highly western based and most of world countries from Asia to Africa to eastern Europe to south America refuse LGBTQ refuse feminism refuses the banking system refuses the modern slavery ( salve wage ) refuses western subjective vales ,but yet they push it on all of us. using utilitarianism then the west shouldn't be pushing their values on the majority and the majority can take down the west. that's why in political science there's a famous quote " the liberal global order is neither liberal nor global " ( meaning only western based and other countries don't anticipate on it or they will be sanctioned and fought by the west ). also, this is by definition slavery because they tell us what to do and if we refuse, they punish us , starve us or kill us and we have to follow them when they are the minority. so utilitarianism doesn't work and they are enslaving us.
what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ".
even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective.
even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here they can't really answer. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on.
what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable.
one thing else if they don't have the concept of good or bad of any subject other than morality that means it has no value ( worthless ).
for example, asking an atheist is science good or bad ? if he/she did reply with good and bad they can't prove it therefore, it's subjective and has no value at all since they don't have the concept of Good and bad.
therefore, all their " facts" ( which are hypothesis not facts ) are worthless if it has no value ( good and bad ).
they can't detect which is fact and not if they don't hold on any value and even if they did they can't prove it since it's subjective.
We live in a world that ran by subjective people who can't prove their value or the value of anything and can't prove even their subjectivsim and it's value! Yet they have the audacity to tell us what's good or bad and what's valuable and not and what's true and not.
also brain is nothing but an organ according to their world view which means they cannot base anything on it and it's all chemical reactions which delude itself on having meaning when there's non which means all their claims as their existence worthless meaningless and untrue. which means they argue for nothing.....
In the Suez crisis USSR and USA forced UK France and Israel to withdraw, Egypt did nothing at all and parts of it was occupied, this video has many historical flaws
You forgot one important thing, Even if it wasn't an Arab leader who did the achievement he won't hold himself from taking the credit.
There is huge flaws in Arabic leadership which can't admit mistakes for some reason.
From Croatia: Simply, the best on the web.
I think the problem with dealing with this topic is that generally it doesn't take into consideration the cultural difference between arabs. First of all, all arabs don't speak the same "language". Generally middle easterners don't understand northern african arabic and the latter only understand the former due to their cultural influence (namely movies and tv series). And that begs the question of what other differences there are in the arab world and can they be clustered. I believe there are 3 major clusters. The Maghreb, Egypt and the Levant and finally Arabia. When you study the arab history generally you are told about what happens in Egypt and the Levant, where the capitals of major arab caliphates were and later under the firm rule of the Ottomans. The Maghreb had an kingdom independent from the caliphs in the middles since the middle ages and ottoman rule in Algeria and Tunisia was very different than that in the middle east. They even had semi-independant states that roughly constitute the moder state of Tunisia and Algeria. And then there is european influence that happened differently. Being under the colonial rule of different powers meant that the infrastructures of the modern states that came after the decolonisation made it difficult for the arabs to unite even if they wanted to. So I think if we look at the subject from a perspective where the arabs are divided from the beginning, it's easier to grasp why they couldn't unite. And maybe they are not one big homogenous nation after all. (I'm an arab btw)
Indeed the "Arab" world is not as homogeneous as foreigners may think. The "Arab" qualifier is misleading in that it can be understood in different ways. Certainly Arabs are not ethnically homogeneous. Cultures anterior to the spread of the Arab language didn't completely dissolve in a single Arab culture. You can find noticeable differences between Tunisia (I assume you're Tunisian) where the eastern Arabic culture permeated the society deeper, and Algeria or Morocco where native Berber identity is still lively and influent.
Considering the cultures predating the Arab conquest, I'd draw similar clusters as the ones you described.
Arabian cluster including Middle and southern Iraq, Gulf states Saudi Kingdom;
Levant cluster including northern Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel/Palestine, Jordan;
Nilotic cluster including Egypt, north Sudan, Djibouti, Somalia, Yemen, Comoros islands ;
Maghreb including the five Maghreb states although there could be a distinct sub cluster for Tunisia and to a lesser extent Libya as a deeper arabised closer to the mashreq sub entity.
we speak the same language but we have different dialects we understand each other too :D
Thank you. Great production values. And really interesting history and insights. Much appreciated. My only comment is that the maps aren’t quite as good as usual. See you next time.
انا عُماني ومؤمن بدولة عربية واحده من مسقط الى الرباط
تحية لكل عربي يقرأ التعليق❤️💚🖤🤍
تحياتي من الدار البيضاء
@@abdallahmasrour7809 و من الجزائر ⚫🔴🟢⚪
Yemen Oman should unite
العروبة هي أيديولوجية أسطورية ومخادعة ، فالمغاربيون شعب مذهل ، والمصريون أقباط ، وسوريون ومن نسل الآراميين والقناص الفلسطينية. إنه مجرد استعمار عربي
عموم الأمازيغية / البربرية أمر ممكن. قد يتوحد عرب الخليج والباقي هم مجرد عرب مزيفين يعانون من أزمات الهوية
"Few political forces are as potent as a sense of lost glory." Brexit summarised.
No it isn’t, if Merkels population replacement hasn’t happened the UK would still be in the EU
Who wants to be bent over like one of EU’s bitches?
Lost glory is a staple of fascist rhetoric.
@@Dontwanttoliveanymore well... Looking beyond rhetoric, it's very effective one. Chinese are now fucking up with US led world order and civilised world can't do anything. May i know which part of world you are from?
Cairo did not force the British and French to retreat from Suez in 1956 - it was diplomatic pressure from US President Eisenhower, supported by the USSR on this rare occasion, that forced a withdrawal of Anglo-French forces from the canal zone, as well as Israeli forces from the Sinai. Egypt accomplished nothing on its own here, as it was resoundingly defeated, primarily by Israel, on the battlefield. President Nasser did not secure a victory, he secured a lesser defeat.
fact that Egypt stood up to superpowers of its time England and france which both used to colonize Egypt in past ad Israel which had endless US and euro military aid was huge accomplishment on its own. There wsa stiff resistance continuously by locals and the government basically armed the entire cities of port said Ismailia Suez launching Gurelan warfare. USSR and US jumped in as a result of EGYPT not collapsing under the trio invasion. Only someone with a biased agenda would go out of his way and try to belittle a nation defending itself beating a trio of aggression.. USSR threatened to bomb London as public opinion there and many nations was pro egypt given they didnt surrender and kept on fighting. Like ukraine scenario now but off course zelnski is a champ and nasser is a bad guy cause he is arab :) on a different note...kosm mamtak.
@@shikahookah8836 "kosm mamtak" - that is a very educated response sir, a singular contribution to a topic of history.
@@patrickcloutier6801 i dont see historical contributions in you going out of your way to denay the sacrfices of thousands who died defending their country against an allied invasion of the super powers of its time. That is much more serious insult kind sir the kosm mamat 7adrtek
@@patrickcloutier6801 na he was saying basic history and facts
Awesome video! Thank you!
Using Mercator projection map in your material made North Africa and Middle East look artificially few times smaller than they are in real life in relation to northern regions. Just a suggestion. Thanks for the video.
Our mhagreb region
🇹🇳🇩🇿🇲🇦🇱🇾🇲🇷 Is more than 6 million square kilometer and look smaller in that map
As an Arab I approve this video.
The people really want to unite, its the leaders who's absolute power corrupted them absolutely.
It's much bigger issue. but, we are seeing more realistic approaches to unified political and military agendas with economical support from rich countries to less fortunate ones. Which is a good approach to overcome issues that lead to failure of previous unification attempts.
No, the Arabs don't want to unite. The poor ones are jealous of the richer ones (made rich by Allah mind you) and the rich Arabs are well aware of this.
One state is worse
Yeah and those leaders are Jews disguised as Arab Muslims.
No we don't want to.
"Failure at every turn" this sums up the Arab world pretty well.
The illusion of Unity. They Don’t Trust each other.
Somalia and Djibouti aren't Arab
They speak Arabic so yea ..they're arab. Arab isnt an ethnicity but rather a cultural identity. Don't be a fool.
@@najabs123 Somalis speak Cushitic as mother tongue
Arabic is one of The Official Languages of Somalia But Majority of the Population Doesn't Speak it
And for Djibouti its Not Even The Official Language But Majority of Population Are Somali
@@najabs123 They Speak Somali...
@@najabs123 Of course I understand Arabic is a cultural Identity, otherwise I would have said everywhere outside the peninsula aren't Arab. You're the foolish one for failing to realise both Djibouti and Somalia neither speak Arabic nor identify as Arab.
It will never happen it's like why Latin America countries except Brazil don't unite despite having common language (Spanish) and same religion (Christianity) that's show that religion and language isn't enough to unite countries.
yeah
Just a little correction there. Brazil speaks portuguese the other countries speak spanish. They are similar though.
I think reunification of Latin America would be more feasible than reunification of arabs. It is literally impossible.
COD Ghosts Federation of Americas lol.
Its goes beyound just langauge and religion, even culture is the same.
Arab states or either republics or monarchies, but there's also a thrive for theocracies and caliphate. This struggle between republicans and monarchies were left out of the video, it dates back to the fall of the ottoman empire and the regions being taken over by british and french powers. After WW1 most modern arab countries were monarchies, some became republics through coups and revolutions, some maintained their monarchies. Another important issue that was left out is that there's other people than arabs living in that region (Kurds in the fertile crescent, Copts in Egypt, Amazighs in the Maghreb, Armenians and Greeks in Lebanon, etc.). It's too oversimplified to think the arab world as being homogeneous, let alone the arabs with their cultural and political diversity. The video can fit into other regions of the world: "why there's no latin american superstate?"
The only thing the arab world can hope for is an economic union similar to the EU, or a confederation similar to Switzerland, but even that hope seems too far away as long as religion creates these divide. Unlike western countries that reformed their political environment, these countries didn't and probably will never separate religion from politics.
Can never separate religion from politics.
Meh, logical first paragraph, biased second.
Nice try tough
For me, one major reason why arabs are "states without a nation" is precisely the fact that arabian world never was a nation. The arabian empires existed as political powers at a time when the idea of a nation didn't existed.
You need a pre existing feeling of cultural unity in people to build a nation. Even during the times of arabian or ottoman empires, each local ethnic group kept their own culture.
You can see that in the difference between the European Union and the United States, 2 entitiies with similar size and population.
The United States were build by the european colonists who had formed one separate culture. These colonist conquered the continent and almost entirely destroyed the native american nations. And they managed to build a united country and being a unique nation.
In Europe, differente cultures and countries have existed for centuries. And for that reason, European Union was build as a commercial and partially political union. But there is no european nation. And it is the same for the old empires inside europe : when the idea of nations rised in the 19th century, nationalism were build at a lower level than the empire one.
America didn't really have 1 culture though, many of the founding fathers/revolutionary leaders were british but some were from other colonies like Alexander Hamilton, some were Quakers, some were scottish or scotch Irish, some like the man who helped found the american cavalry regiments were polish, and there were tons of germanic people from across central europe. Later waves of Irish also came and settled too. The US had quite a few religious groups when it was first founded with Quakers, shakers, puritans, baptists, and tons of other protestants not to mention many Catholics. When america started to expand they gained tons of french and spanish colonists, and although excluded politically they also gained tons of natives and mexicans as their border expanded westward. That's also.without bringing up the distinct african american cultures (plural). There has also always been a sizable cultural divide of the north vs south that was much more obvious in the past. Waves of immigration also brought many cultures from across europe from russian jews to italian Catholics, plus immigrants from places like China and latin america. Part of the reason for english not being 100% the official language is since during the early days of america there were tons of French, spanish, and german speakers in the US and many in the US didnt speak much english (notably the amish and mennonites even today speak their own version of german and there are still tons of spanish speaking mexicans in the southwest and still some french cajuns).
Part of the reason the founding fathers venerated the Roman's so much was their civic nationalism: They bound together different cultures into a single empire. The founding fathers basically _manufactured_ american culture so they could create a melting pot which is why there are so many native american, french Canadian, and Germanic based stories in american culture. They created a "media blitz" style propaganda drive after the revolution to try and assert things like coffee drinking rather than tea to assert their new culture over the existing British culture.
Just shut it!
Arabs were nations and the most ancient ones them and Africans.
The thing preventing them is plain and simple: Europe and Jews.