Great podcast. That era of 02 - 06 nwoahm and metalcore was such an exciting time, so many bands breaking ground and doing big numbers in that time. Probably the most underrated era of metal and hardcore.
Bleeding Through are a legendary band. Every hardcore and metal fan knows whats up with the late 90s/early 2000s pioneers. I remember being young and thinking they were the heaviest, darkest hardcore band and i wasnt alone.
It's kinda trippy that Bleeding Through is as old as I am. Being a Motionless in White fan for almost a decade, I built it up in my head that Bleeding Through was one of those massive bands like Slipknot and Korn just based on how their lead singer Chris was talking about them in interviews. In 2019 I finally decided to listen to the band, and due to their longevity, I now have many albums to listen to of my favourite kind of heavy music. I may not have a story from the 2000s, but damn I can't wait for what's to come from them! Amazing podcast!
@@ADHDxDahveed Self-Titled's only weakness for me is it lacks real strings like Declaration had, and I liked Declaration's variety of clean vocals between Brandan's lows and Ryan's highs. S/T is all synth strings and the cleans are all Ryan's higher vocals. It just ends up feeling a little bit more... homogenized? The songs on the S/T kinda bleed together a bit more than the songs on Declaration did.
I owe a lot to Bleeding Through, my all time top favorite bands to this day. This Is Love, This Is Murderous still holds up as one of the heaviest most influential records ever. I met remember meeting Marta in 2010, just the nicest and sweetest person. I've only been to 4 Ozzfests. '97, '98, '99 and the 2004 one.
Awesome Podcast so far. I’m so glad Garza is talking to Brandan about the past with 18 visions and throwdown and the old BT records. But you can clearly tell Brandan doesn’t want to live in the past or talk about the past and just cares about current Bleeding Through and future Bleeding Through. I hope some day for a remaster or re record of Portrait Of The Goddess.. I don’t think he realizes how groundbreaking those early records are.
I saw Bleeding Through in a small club in Minneapolis in the Early 2000's and have been a huge fan ever since. I've loved every album and they stand out to me as a band with absolute integrity. Thanks for all the brootal music throughout the years Brandan!
Brandan is one of my biggest (anti)heros. I love everything the dude does and this makes me miss his jabberjaw podcasts, those were fun. I got to meet him in 2018 east coast tsunami fest after being a fan all these years and I'm so glad I got to shake his hand. I could tell he didn't feel comfortable though, I regret not getting a picture with him. His lyrics, music have been a huge inspiration to me, seeing you two guys trade compliments in kind is very awesome to see.
Bleeding Through is one great example of a band that stays true to their core identity and yet has evolved over the years at the same time. Fucking love their music and always will! :)
Bleeding Through is hands down my favorite metalcore band from the 2000s era. I still jam Portrait of the Goddess regularly. Every album is amazing tho. BT has a solid AF discography
I came across a clip of this on tiktok and it didn't disappoint, you don't hear the oldschool guys talking this candidly about all aspects of the "scene" from back in the day! Love that there was plenty of 18v chat too! I'll deffo be checking this pod out more often.
This is fucking excellent. I absolutely love that Chris furiously scribbles down band names in this and almost all other podcasts he's put out. Hearing such stories and insight from one of the loveliest frontmen I've ever met.
I got into Bleeding Through when This is Love came out, and recently saw them play for the first time in decades and they absolutely ripped. Classic California metalcore legends!
I found Bleeding Through on one of those random Metal Mixtape CDs back in the early 2000s. Was instantly a fan, and went on to see them at multiple Ozzfests as well as a tour they headlined with 2 other bands. One of those bands was Fight Paris. Mississippi Nights in St. Louis Missouri!
Awesome podcast. I never realized he was in eighteen visions and throwdown at one point. He briefly brought up bloodsimple, damn I wish we got another release from them.
Bleeding through shaped my love for heavy songs with keys 🤝🏼 Love and Respect from Malaysia ❤️ Brandon aging gracefully 💪🏻 Thank You Garza for doing these conversations, keep it up 🤜🏻🤛🏻❤️
I met Brandan at Download festival back in 2006 and he was so so humble and kind. It was the most amazing experience ever, they were my all time favourite band in my early 20's. They're playing This is love this is murderous in full in Manchester in a few months and I can't attend. Absolutely gutted it would have been incredible to see. Praying for a UK tour sometime soon.
as a Corona showcase kid... seeing you two talk the history is fucking amazing. Watched both of yall, and was influenced in my playing a ton. Amazing interview
Declaration goes so fucking hard still. One of my favorites. Great interview. Seeing other people stoked makes me all the more stoked. I can also related to being Straight Edge in the early part of my life being so important to keeping me out of trouble.
I love that he said IN FLAMES. 37:53 My friends band "At the skylines" went to Sweden to Record there Major label album with the Producer Daniel Bergstrand who recorded the Big IN FLAMES Albums Reroute to Remain (2002) and Come Clarity and Soundtrack to Your Escape. they are a Redlands band era 2009-2012 made it to Roadrunner records Toured Europe with Enter Shikari a Big UK band also Toured US twice with "We Came As Romans" @GARZA you should interview the Singer Chris Shelley from At the Skylines.
Nice Talk! Ozzfest 2004 was the BEST concert I've ever been too. I still go to shows all the time and nothing will top that lineup. Priest was awesome! 🤘
I absolutely love this podcast. Brendon has grown so much from the wolfs among sheep documentary from back in the day. I love that he's grown and no longer straight edge, so he can experience the things he missed with other bands. I fucking love bleeding through. Great job Garza, Horns up! 🤘
One of my all time favorite bands! This is love is my all time favorite metalcore record. It would be cool to see more old metalcore bands on the podcast. Underoath would make a fascinating episode because of their history. Another pioneering heavy metalcore band bury your dead would be sick for the Garza podcast. Get Mat Bruso!
Bleeding Through's latest 4 songs are fantastic, i ever have to say their best works. (exept Line In The Sand which is my favorite of all time) They trully know what their fans love, this heavy blackened sound with blastbeats, symphonic synths and beautiful choruses. Still wait for the day when they play Line In The Sand live, such and underrated masterpiece.
Coming from a og hardcore kid , this band got me into metalcore, and i like that their pits still gots mfkrs still hardcore dancing... Cuz now in the metalcore scene its frowned upon. Like the new fans forgot who made metalcore a thing... Us the Hardcore kids.. still ninjas in the pit.
Small typo on your time stamp, it says "being straight edge for 13 years" but he said he started being edge at 13 and was edge for 20 years. Awesome vids btw.
This made my day, I still remember watching bleeding through at the Halloween show in October ish at glasshouse Pomona , they went up in full skull make up. And covered misfits die die my darling. One of the most epic nights ever.
Grew up on Bleeding Through: This is Love This is Murderous in high school. Underrated album btw. Very influential album and band during that time. (The Movie Soundclip intros, blast beats, singing on hooks, breakdowns, keys, all black look) It was very apparent that the OC, LA and IE hardcore metal bands didn't fw each other. Too many politics and egos in the hardcore metal scene. Like I'm cooler than you attitude Winds of Plague was the Rancho Cucamonga version of OC's Bleeding Through. There was too many shows going at once too Glasshouse, Chain Reaction, Showcase, LA venues. More fests would have created a better synergy between bands like Nightmare Fest or like a Sound and Fury for instance. Suicide Silence and JFAC created a new wave of death metal bands that surpassed the metal core, emo bands at the time. People gravitated to heavier breakdowns and pig squeals n shit I can see why there was animosity / egos between bands because the shift in genres and over saturation of copy cat bands. There's still shitty death core bands today that copied the formula of the early 2000s bands I like how Brandan is now focused on his business as well as his music career. I also liked the breaking straight edge conversation of the interview
Great podcast. Hooked on bleeding through since portrait of a goddess. Seen them twice at the white rabbit in San Antonio back in the day. It was so sick
The bands you keep getting on here are all the ones i grew up with. And others i would show were like meh! lol i would get mad these bands saved my life! and still do! keep up the good shit bro i look forward to every video you put up!
Great podcast I remember I used to go see Bleeding Through back in the day at Chain Reaction. Any chance getting Chris Barnes or the Cannibal Corpse dudes on in the future?
When Chris asks "Brandan, do you realize what a special time you were involved in?" with the whole weight of his heart, I felt that so hard. Bleeding Through, Eighteen Visions, Avenged Sevenfold, Throwdown, Atreyu, even My Chemical Romance... There was this world that suddenly came to life where I wanted to be, where the existential atheistic uncompromising punk metal goth sons of Danzig were living and thriving. Bands were making their own little web 2.0 websites, flash games, and hosting band forums. And as soon as it came, it was gone. All these bands were replaced by boring formulaic scream-verse sing-chorus metalcore bands and boring predictable breakdown bands that couldn't write riffs or lyrics and simply copied each other. It's like the genre became oversimplified and commodified, and most of the bands that were good at it just abandoned it in favor of something radio-friendly with very little to say or a message buried by marketing forced and fans that didn't get it. The new deathcore wave at large was so aimless and woefully simple that the whole deathcore movement just got replaced with even dumber 'bass-drop' dubstep, dubious opportunistic 'screamo'-pop predators, and doubly boring, lukewarm djent bands afraid of hair or eyeliner. Hearing you two talk about the disconnect there was between those waves of bands is so crazy, and it makes me think of how cool it was for Motionless in White to wear their influences on their sleeve like they do. I wouldn't put on any of their songs personally, but that's a band I can look at and have no misunderstanding that they _get it_.
So true I can't stand that pop rnb whiny singing in Metalcore and overdone generic drop G riffs now. Sounds way overproduced and everything sounds so fucking robotic. There's just no passion so it's not even about it being good or bad but it's just a phase because we know they will hop to the next trend. That's the difference between us and them and it's not gatekeeping but people forget where this scene came from is the point they miss. Normie hipsters infiltrated the scene. unfortunately
This pod is really turning into a machine, horns up 2 Garza for the hard work. Does not go unnoticed!
I appreciate that! -GaЯza
FINALLY SOMEONE GIVES BLEEDING THROUGH THE RECOGNITION THEY DESERVE! They are what metalcore sounds like to me...Brandan is the best!
Great podcast. That era of 02 - 06 nwoahm and metalcore was such an exciting time, so many bands breaking ground and doing big numbers in that time. Probably the most underrated era of metal and hardcore.
Bleeding Through are a legendary band. Every hardcore and metal fan knows whats up with the late 90s/early 2000s pioneers. I remember being young and thinking they were the heaviest, darkest hardcore band and i wasnt alone.
100% Bleeding Through, Poison the well,18 Visions Deserve more credit for the current state of music
They are cited and praised regularly
Fred Durst: Nobody can say the F bomb more than us in our hot dog song!
Bleeding Through writing Revenge I Seek: Hold my beer
Revenge I Seek: 22 fucks (including ""fucking")
Hot Dog: 47 fucks
On God, bro. Brandon says fuck so many times but I'd wager Ivan from Five Finger Death Punch gives him a run for his money.
It's kinda trippy that Bleeding Through is as old as I am. Being a Motionless in White fan for almost a decade, I built it up in my head that Bleeding Through was one of those massive bands like Slipknot and Korn just based on how their lead singer Chris was talking about them in interviews. In 2019 I finally decided to listen to the band, and due to their longevity, I now have many albums to listen to of my favourite kind of heavy music. I may not have a story from the 2000s, but damn I can't wait for what's to come from them!
Amazing podcast!
Garza is at every LA show I go to.. definitely pays attention to the bands coming up
Once again, Garza is the goat! Ready to listen to this at work.
That was really nice man. Thank you. I’m stoked on this one! -GaЯza
Always man!! Can't wait for the next one! Stay metal 🤘
Hell yeah Bleeding Through has been my favorite band for about 20yrs now. This just made my day
Love that Garza always pulls up the notebook to write down bands. You can feel the passion!
So stoked to hear him say Declaration is his favourite record of theirs. It's one of my all-time favourite albums.
My favorite record also. Dropped my softmore/Jr year in hs and it was just really deep heavy stuff and great writing.
Listened to it so much during the back end of 2008, fantastic album.
its top for me but self titled just .. ionno man sooo well crafted but sister charlatan is still my #1 song ever
@@ADHDxDahveed Self-Titled's only weakness for me is it lacks real strings like Declaration had, and I liked Declaration's variety of clean vocals between Brandan's lows and Ryan's highs. S/T is all synth strings and the cleans are all Ryan's higher vocals. It just ends up feeling a little bit more... homogenized? The songs on the S/T kinda bleed together a bit more than the songs on Declaration did.
I owe a lot to Bleeding Through, my all time top favorite bands to this day. This Is Love, This Is Murderous still holds up as one of the heaviest most influential records ever. I met remember meeting Marta in 2010, just the nicest and sweetest person. I've only been to 4 Ozzfests. '97, '98, '99 and the 2004 one.
This was wholesome AF. Did not expect that. Branden has such an incredible voice. His delivery is fierce and pronunciation on point 🤘
Awesome Podcast so far. I’m so glad Garza is talking to Brandan about the past with 18 visions and throwdown and the old BT records. But you can clearly tell Brandan doesn’t want to live in the past or talk about the past and just cares about current Bleeding Through and future Bleeding Through. I hope some day for a remaster or re record of Portrait Of The Goddess.. I don’t think he realizes how groundbreaking those early records are.
Some hard earned wisdom at this table. Damn. Still inspiring this old metal head. Thanks guys!
Declaration is the best metal album of all time. EVER!
Garza, please keep bringing the OGs!
We got a DM OG next week that I'm really fkn stoked about. -GaЯza
@@GarzaPodcast your Devourment Episode is still the King. Man really thanks for what you’re doing!
The people have spoken. Devourment is SIC. We wouldn't be here without you tuning in. I appreciate it. -GaЯza
I saw Bleeding Through in a small club in Minneapolis in the Early 2000's and have been a huge fan ever since. I've loved every album and they stand out to me as a band with absolute integrity. Thanks for all the brootal music throughout the years Brandan!
Brandan is one of my biggest (anti)heros. I love everything the dude does and this makes me miss his jabberjaw podcasts, those were fun. I got to meet him in 2018 east coast tsunami fest after being a fan all these years and I'm so glad I got to shake his hand. I could tell he didn't feel comfortable though, I regret not getting a picture with him. His lyrics, music have been a huge inspiration to me, seeing you two guys trade compliments in kind is very awesome to see.
My favorite band of all time 😍 thanks Garza for having Brandon on hopefully more people see this and listen to Bleeding Through
This got deep. So good.
Bleeding Through is one great example of a band that stays true to their core identity and yet has evolved over the years at the same time. Fucking love their music and always will! :)
Bleeding Through is hands down my favorite metalcore band from the 2000s era. I still jam Portrait of the Goddess regularly. Every album is amazing tho. BT has a solid AF discography
Shame about the terrible clean vocals though.
Mine too. Jump off to so many bands, but this is love this is murderous is still a masterpiece of pissed off metalcore
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definetly agree this is love this is murderous is in my car right now
I am so glad bleeding through came back. I can't wait for the next record
I came across a clip of this on tiktok and it didn't disappoint, you don't hear the oldschool guys talking this candidly about all aspects of the "scene" from back in the day! Love that there was plenty of 18v chat too! I'll deffo be checking this pod out more often.
This is fucking excellent. I absolutely love that Chris furiously scribbles down band names in this and almost all other podcasts he's put out. Hearing such stories and insight from one of the loveliest frontmen I've ever met.
Dude thank you this brought me back
I still jam all the OC/IE/LA hardcore/metal core bands. Such a fun time in my life that I’ll cherish forever.
I got into Bleeding Through when This is Love came out, and recently saw them play for the first time in decades and they absolutely ripped. Classic California metalcore legends!
I’m in total shock seeing Brandan drinking Beer😮😮😮 Him, Eighteen Visions and Throwdown was the reason I discovered Straight Edge
Garza, it's dope to see everyone grown and egos checked. Super humbling.
I found Bleeding Through on one of those random Metal Mixtape CDs back in the early 2000s. Was instantly a fan, and went on to see them at multiple Ozzfests as well as a tour they headlined with 2 other bands. One of those bands was Fight Paris. Mississippi Nights in St. Louis Missouri!
Your best one since Glen Benton, congrats on these guests brother.
I hope this podcast blows up. First of its kind.🤘🏼
Awesome podcast. I never realized he was in eighteen visions and throwdown at one point. He briefly brought up bloodsimple, damn I wish we got another release from them.
He was in 18 visions for three records and multiple touring cycles
Bleeding through shaped my love for heavy songs with keys 🤝🏼
Love and Respect from Malaysia ❤️
Brandon aging gracefully 💪🏻
Thank You Garza for doing these conversations, keep it up 🤜🏻🤛🏻❤️
Bleeding through is so wicked and Brandan is awesome. Sucks I missed so many awesome bands growing up, but now I am making up for it 🤘
YES ! DECLRATION is the best record of beleding through! really love it
Keep it up Garza! The production and guest selection is top tier
I met Brandan at Download festival back in 2006 and he was so so humble and kind. It was the most amazing experience ever, they were my all time favourite band in my early 20's. They're playing This is love this is murderous in full in Manchester in a few months and I can't attend. Absolutely gutted it would have been incredible to see. Praying for a UK tour sometime soon.
Garza is gonna be huge. This dude will be the best podcast in metal.
as a Corona showcase kid... seeing you two talk the history is fucking amazing. Watched both of yall, and was influenced in my playing a ton. Amazing interview
Love Bleeding Through.
For Love and Failing is such a awesome song to “try” and sing! 😂
Great convo guys 🤟🏾
Declaration goes so fucking hard still. One of my favorites. Great interview. Seeing other people stoked makes me all the more stoked. I can also related to being Straight Edge in the early part of my life being so important to keeping me out of trouble.
I love that he said IN FLAMES. 37:53 My friends band "At the skylines" went to Sweden to Record there Major label album with the Producer Daniel Bergstrand who recorded the Big IN FLAMES Albums Reroute to Remain (2002) and Come Clarity and Soundtrack to Your Escape.
they are a Redlands band era 2009-2012 made it to Roadrunner records Toured Europe with Enter Shikari a Big UK band also Toured US twice with "We Came As Romans"
@GARZA you should interview the Singer Chris Shelley from At the Skylines.
Bro I literally throw these podcast on all day at work doing something special for the metal industry
Nice Talk! Ozzfest 2004 was the BEST concert I've ever been too. I still go to shows all the time and nothing will top that lineup. Priest was awesome! 🤘
Savior, Saint, Salvation 🤘
I been going to BT shows since 14 I am now 34 and still going.
Great interview. Brandan is such a solid dude. Privileged for the opportunities he’s given to @thrownintoexile recently.
I absolutely love this podcast. Brendon has grown so much from the wolfs among sheep documentary from back in the day. I love that he's grown and no longer straight edge, so he can experience the things he missed with other bands. I fucking love bleeding through. Great job Garza, Horns up! 🤘
Bleeding through NEEDS to play in Las Vegas please.I never see them here ever and it’s time damn it
Bleeding Through was the first real heavy band I got into 20 years ago.
One of my all time favorite bands! This is love is my all time favorite metalcore record. It would be cool to see more old metalcore bands on the podcast. Underoath would make a fascinating episode because of their history. Another pioneering heavy metalcore band bury your dead would be sick for the Garza podcast. Get Mat Bruso!
Converge would be great even though they're so far apart from Suicide Silence
Holy shit Garza you’ve been KILLING it with these guests!
Never been a fan of the band, but Portrait of the Goddess has a special place for me. Such a Great record
This is the best pod period...the guests are unreal
Bleeding Through's latest 4 songs are fantastic, i ever have to say their best works. (exept Line In The Sand which is my favorite of all time) They trully know what their fans love, this heavy blackened sound with blastbeats, symphonic synths and beautiful choruses.
Still wait for the day when they play Line In The Sand live, such and underrated masterpiece.
Garza Podcast is so sick!
Dawg you’ve been killing w these guests lately - keep tha heat coming mane 🫶🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Brandan is literally the nicest guy. Great episode Chris.
It was intresting hearing the back and fourth about the scene in California! Orange country bands were definitely dicks ! Haha.
easily one of my favorite bands this is love this is murderous is one of my all time top albums
My top 3 favorite bands are Suicide Silence, Bleeding Through, and Motionless In White. Best tour ever waiting to happen
Bleeding through.Dearly Demented.🤘🏼
Brandan is the man. I miss him doing his podcast
Coming from a og hardcore kid , this band got me into metalcore, and i like that their pits still gots mfkrs still hardcore dancing... Cuz now in the metalcore scene its frowned upon. Like the new fans forgot who made metalcore a thing... Us the Hardcore kids.. still ninjas in the pit.
Small typo on your time stamp, it says "being straight edge for 13 years" but he said he started being edge at 13 and was edge for 20 years. Awesome vids btw.
Best of the best!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Great episode! Glad you see how humble you two are.
I feel like they kind of opened the door for Blackened Deathcore without knowing it or meaning to.
This made my day, I still remember watching bleeding through at the Halloween show in October ish at glasshouse Pomona , they went up in full skull make up. And covered misfits die die my darling. One of the most epic nights ever.
Grew up on Bleeding Through: This is Love This is Murderous in high school. Underrated album btw.
Very influential album and band during that time. (The Movie Soundclip intros, blast beats, singing on hooks, breakdowns, keys, all black look)
It was very apparent that the OC, LA and IE hardcore metal bands didn't fw each other. Too many politics and egos in the hardcore metal scene. Like I'm cooler than you attitude
Winds of Plague was the Rancho Cucamonga version of OC's Bleeding Through.
There was too many shows going at once too Glasshouse, Chain Reaction, Showcase, LA venues.
More fests would have created a better synergy between bands like Nightmare Fest or like a Sound and Fury for instance.
Suicide Silence and JFAC created a new wave of death metal bands that surpassed the metal core, emo bands at the time. People gravitated to heavier breakdowns and pig squeals n shit
I can see why there was animosity / egos between bands because the shift in genres and over saturation of copy cat bands. There's still shitty death core bands today that copied the formula of the early 2000s bands
I like how Brandan is now focused on his business as well as his music career. I also liked the breaking straight edge conversation of the interview
Hell yeah second stage ozzfest was tight as fuck in Camden NJ and Bleeding Through blew me away. First time hearing them
That's the one OZZFEST I went to I caught it in Dallas.Been a Bleeding Through fan since then!!
Great podcast. Hooked on bleeding through since portrait of a goddess. Seen them twice at the white rabbit in San Antonio back in the day. It was so sick
Shep is my favorite metal singer.
We need a documentary about BT! I would love the see it! About the history of the band until nowday
Brandan inspired my favorite vocalist Chris Motionless... I'd love to hear another collab between them.
The bands you keep getting on here are all the ones i grew up with. And others i would show were like meh! lol i would get mad these bands saved my life! and still do! keep up the good shit bro i look forward to every video you put up!
On wings of lead s+ tier song top 10 of all time in metalcore
Piled 8 people into one 2 bedroom motel room to see them in some festival in Austin like 20 years ago. Good donuts.
So those “X” marks he used to paint on himself were actually Dos Equis beer ads?
I was there at the San Bernardino Ozzfest 2004! 51:06
Seeing Brandon drink a beer and smoke a Vape just blew my mind
Finally I knew it 🤘the day is here
What is the deal with Scott Danough not playing with them now?
I would’ve asked how the HIM tour came about completely different genres but same show lol
Great podcast I remember I used to go see Bleeding Through back in the day at Chain Reaction. Any chance getting Chris Barnes or the Cannibal Corpse dudes on in the future?
Been waiting for this one
I wish you guys would of talked about when back in the day avenged sevenfold opened up shows for bleeding through!
Who went to headbangers ball with bleeding through himsa archenemy cradle of filth.. that shit was insane
Me ! House of blues in Anaheim when it was till at downtown Disney !
Sick episode! Gotta get Gods Hate on next, you already know Taylor
A la chingada Garza.... Love your pod bro!! N
Yesterday is Time Killed still fucking slaps.
Been tuning in every monday, really enjoying the podcast. That being said ,would love to see Greyhaven on here.
For the algorithm
When Chris asks "Brandan, do you realize what a special time you were involved in?" with the whole weight of his heart, I felt that so hard. Bleeding Through, Eighteen Visions, Avenged Sevenfold, Throwdown, Atreyu, even My Chemical Romance... There was this world that suddenly came to life where I wanted to be, where the existential atheistic uncompromising punk metal goth sons of Danzig were living and thriving. Bands were making their own little web 2.0 websites, flash games, and hosting band forums. And as soon as it came, it was gone.
All these bands were replaced by boring formulaic scream-verse sing-chorus metalcore bands and boring predictable breakdown bands that couldn't write riffs or lyrics and simply copied each other. It's like the genre became oversimplified and commodified, and most of the bands that were good at it just abandoned it in favor of something radio-friendly with very little to say or a message buried by marketing forced and fans that didn't get it. The new deathcore wave at large was so aimless and woefully simple that the whole deathcore movement just got replaced with even dumber 'bass-drop' dubstep, dubious opportunistic 'screamo'-pop predators, and doubly boring, lukewarm djent bands afraid of hair or eyeliner.
Hearing you two talk about the disconnect there was between those waves of bands is so crazy, and it makes me think of how cool it was for Motionless in White to wear their influences on their sleeve like they do. I wouldn't put on any of their songs personally, but that's a band I can look at and have no misunderstanding that they _get it_.
Thank you Chris for this amazing podcast. It's very sweet to hear interviews with real ass people like you that KNOW the music.
So true I can't stand that pop rnb whiny singing in Metalcore and overdone generic drop G riffs now. Sounds way overproduced and everything sounds so fucking robotic. There's just no passion so it's not even about it being good or bad but it's just a phase because we know they will hop to the next trend. That's the difference between us and them and it's not gatekeeping but people forget where this scene came from is the point they miss. Normie hipsters infiltrated the scene. unfortunately
How long has Brandon not been edge?
Brandon drinking BEER??? MY MY THINGS HAVE CHANGED 😅
Lifes too short lol.