American Reacts to America Compared: Why Other Countries Treat Their People So Much Better
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That's a really valid point, Americans really seem to look down on low paid employees. We don't do that in Australia. A job is a job. You're working for your money, you deserve respect.
In the UK it's only if you dont have a job but are able to work. Unless of course you've quit one and are looking for another
I don't as they are providing a valuable service to our spoiled and entitled public. I always add an extra trip on my bill even at fast food restaurants.
Ironically we are much more egalitarian than the US which wanted to break free from the constraints of classism, as typified by England!
We don't do that in America unless you're an eliteist. We just understand that pay is based on several factors, the main one being education level required.
@@darthvader5532 Haha that's so not true. Are you actually paying attention to the world you live in? Americans look down on low paid employees like no other country.
"They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Nice.
He was so right on so many things
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Aaah so that’s why they hate being “WOKE”. Now I get it.
'Life is not fair - you can't be expected to be treated fairly' - that's a very American point of view. You need to shift to 'Life is not fair, and never will be, but as a society we should always strive to make life fairer and better.' All humans should wish the best for all humans.
'Life is not fair - you can't be expected to be treated fairly' - that's a very American point of view.
I am American and I fully agree with this.
"You need to shift to 'Life is not fair, and never will be, but as a society we should always strive to make life fairer and better.' All humans should wish the best for all humans."
That a poor Australian can't start a business as easily or be as profitable as easily in some ways hurts Australia.
Only wanting business owners to be rich there is some obvious negatives to that. In USA / here we have both rich and poor business owners. We also have rich and poor employees.
You talk about what is fair and I see the Australian homeless problem is allegedly worse than ever in history.
"There are more homeless in Australia than ‘ever before’: Paul Murray"
Should I take your comment more literally like you want robots doing the vast majority of jobs on the planet so humans do not have to?
@@logicaldebateUSABut the Australian homeless problem isn't as bad as the American one?
Not to mention Australian homeless can get free healthcare and generally can trust the cops like this is a stupid thing an American said to me, nowhere near the stupidest but still hauntingly stupid.
@@danielmorris8748 There is more people in the state of California compared to all of Australia.
I would assume the amount of poor who move to USA highly outnumbers poor to AUS. Poor people from all over the world want to live here and our government is cool with it for the most part.
I know some poor want to live there also but it obviously does not compare.
The population of AUS is so small and there is so much land I do not see how you have a homeless problem in the first place.
Poor Americans get free healthcare. I am pretty sure illegal immigrants get it too. I do not know where you are getting your info.
Some cops you can generally trust them and some you can't. Is that not true in AUS also? The American media does not make as much money off showing stories about good cops compared to bad ones. That would be just as true in your country.
More people from AUS move to USA vs the other way around based on percentage of total population.
"In 2019, there were 98,619 Australian-born people living in the United States.[3] In 2001, the major places of residence were: 25,000 living in Los Angeles; 17,000 in San Francisco; 17,000 in Washington, D.C.; and 15,000 in New York.[19]
The number of Australians migrating to the United States is less than the number of Americans migrating to Australia. Between 200,000 and 300,000 US citizens live in Australia.[20]"
Even if we based that off 300k Americans vs 98k Australians that is so many more Australians for your total population.
0.393% or close to 98k of Australians live in USA based on a 25 million population.
0.1% of 332 million population = 332000 so it would be less than this.
Explain why more from your country want to move to mine? if yours is so much better?
I never heard any American say let us move to Australia to become rich. I am not saying none ever have but it is not some stereotype of wealth. Big American companies do it but they were already rich to begin with.
The Australians who come here to become rich is obviously quite more.
Plus someone who was rich to begin with I would assume it still would be more Australians moving here vs rich Americans moving there.
I am not some American snob where I think my country is better at everything or that I am not able to admit your country does some things better than mine if I was to look or be shown it. I just do not see how giving low skilled workers so much is good for an economy though.
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Being a business owner in Australia is obviously way harder when you are poor. In my country the worst thing is crime but a business owner can simply move to an area with less crime.
Plus some American business owners just sell online to start with and never open a walk in store personally.
That unskilled workers are treated so well in Australia hurts the concept of a poor person starting a business there and your rent prices are so high even with them being paid so well.
The same problem happens in England. Part of my country have super high rents also but you can simply move to a cheaper part of the country where even a Mcdonalds worker could afford to rent their own room.
The only people that really benefit in the England and Australia system are the workers who have no ability or desire to be anything more than a min wage worker and can live with family cheaply.
@@logicaldebateUSA logical?? debate??
More like biased b.s.And ignorant even for the affairs in the US.
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Ryan,
As an American who worked for a German Company for 16 years, let me tell you what that was like:
Working for my American corporation, after 15 years, I got a third week's vacation. I started working for the German Company when I was 54 years old. I immediately got 5 weeks vacation. The German Government has a Law, and the older you are the more vacation time you get. That applies to all German companies.
At Christmas time, we received a 13th month salary. Our company was owned by Daimler-Benz, so as an employee we could buy a new Mercedes at factory cost every year. Mercedes took care of oil changes and inspection for free. At the end of the year, you sold the car at normal 1year old used car prices, and earned a profit on the sale. All schools from Kindergarten to University are tuition free. As a University student, you are allowed to work between semesters, and don't have to pay any taxes on your earnings.
Germany made one biggest mistakes-frau Merkel free immigration from 3rd world countries and big social pays for them...germans works culture,quality,clean..look what is now in Germany...locals not so happy there..watch stats of crimes,finaly look how streets looks like now..with my biggest respect to germans,what do you did???
another story bout USA,70-80 America was dream land,greatest country,what happens to you ,americans?became too lazy for fight to your rights?too much power of big corporations,lobby,politics..America lost her shining..still amazing nature huge country,which is absolutely nice to visit,and..no one reason to stay live there...
In Germany you get 13 month salary
In Italy you get 13 and 14 month meaning you're paid double twice a year
that's ridiculous. As a German I have (like most of the people in Europe) paid holidays, paid sick leave, health insurance, paid maternity leave and even if I lose my job I get benefits. Unions are normal. There are so many laws and restrictions that protects the workers. You guys should fight for better conditions. Every person deserve a decent live.
There is multiple problems a country will get when you treat low skilled workers that well though.
If you wanted everyone to have a decent life you could make it a crime for poor people to have children. That would be a more logical solution.
@@logicaldebateUSA are you trolling? "Low skilled workers" may deserve less money, not less basic rights. German commenter spoke truths and hope Europe will stay strong on hard earned civil basic dignity.
@@elleanna5869 What are you talking about?
You just admitted they deserve less money.
@@logicaldebateUSA Okay then everyone should just quit low skill work, see where you get your food, mail, transport, utilities etc.
@@bespokepenguin103 Eventually robots and machines will take over the vast majority of human low skill jobs. They will even take over the skilled jobs also because humans commit more errors in general.
Eventually in the next 30 years one country will make it illegal to drive in public as a human and self driving will be the only legal way. It would save countless lives once it was working properly.
If you walk into a McDonalds it is a computer that takes your order now after decades of being a humans job.
They even have a machine that works the fryer now and that used to be a humans job for decades also.
Eventually the humans you are talking about will not need to quit they will be laid off instead for a machine. With how expensive an Australian or German worker is ect, I would want a machine employee as soon as possible.
oh my, hearing you say "you shouldn't expect to be treated fairly" was by one of the most shocking American statements i've heard in a while.
What is "fair"? Who decides what is fair? And how can they say what's fair for you isn't unfair for someone else?
Some people in the US CHOOSE not to take vacation even if it's offered because they take pride in their work and prefer it. Others own their own business and won't take vacations because it's their livelihood on the line.
@@phydeux If you take so much "pride" in your job you refuse to take the days off that you're due, you're a workaholic and need help. Also, your health is probably gonna fail you sooner rather than later, with that kind of attitude, which is an entirely different kind of issue, especially in the USA.
@@veladarney - That's entirely up to the individual. That's the POINT of being free. Free to do what you want within reason, and free to work as hard as you like to make your dreams come true.
I personally know a billionaire who's pushing 80 now and only sleeps 4 hours a day, works 6.5 days a week, and flies all around the globe doing it. And his exec team has to work to his schedule.
My boss under him used to fly commercial just so she could get some rest instead of being tied to his clock. Me? I do my 40 and go home and regularly sleep till noon on weekends.
It's really up to you what you want to do here. And if some people risk their health working too hard, fine. There are also some who STOP working hard and then suddenly have health problems because they stopped. We're all conditioned differently.
@@veladarney Look at you judging others like a fascist POS. Fk you
@@phydeux you need psicological help. seriously.
It’s also crazy watching regular Americans defend the system that exploits them.
Stockholm syndrome it seems
Exploited people in the US defend their system because the one area where the US is genuinely ahead of the rest of the work is the public /private partnership in propaganda. Propaganda is also about the only olace the fabled public/private partnerships actually work.
I'm 80 and live in Colorado. I can tell you that the majority of yanks are simply and sadly just not too bright. They are hellishly opinionated though. Lousy public education system and it's only the RAH RAH RAH US JINGOISM that keeps their heads firmly in the "we are the best" bottle. If I was in better health (Emphysema Stage Four) I'd be out of here like a shot and maybe - just maybe - get to feel secure and happy again after being robbed of every dime for healthcare. GREED !!
It's crazy that a lot of people side with capitalism and are against socialism as the driving force behind capitalism is profit maximization and this by logic requires that the wealth is not shared fairly even though the profit is generated by all the people that work and not only by the business owners (especially not the ones that just started the business, hired people to take care of it and then don't care as much about it).
The driving force behind capitalism, if not controlled suffciently, will always lead to the outcome that can be seen today but not yet in full "glory": that masses will have to work and earn as little as possible to enforce the necessity to work in order to live, while only small group of people will benefit from it. It progresses everywhere but not everywhere as wildly as in USA.
It amazes me how the hell so many people are thinking that they will get to the top while the chances of getting there are slight and majority of people will never be able to get there, the hierarchical structure is build to motivate people but also to blind them that they can achieve something while in fact only a few will be able to achieve something and the rest will be consumed anyway as the money value dissipates thanks to inflation, in USA there is the heathcare that drains people pockets, ever increasing consumptionism that makes you want new phone whenever it pops up etc. etc. -- the system is designed to either get the money from you or make you spend it so that you have to work and be silent and obedient.
Capitalism is build to drain and exploit people, especially the simple normal people who are gullible and fair because the system doesn't promote fairness, it promotes the cunning ones -- if you are fair, if you do care about other people, if you don't have the means to pursue the goal whatever the means are, if you wish to live a luxurious life and you think of it in the sense that once you get rich you could rest and thus just spend the money, then most probably you'll never be the one on the top, you'll most probably never even get close enough and even if somehow you'll have the skills that are necessary and valuable you may get close but only because you provide profit and only as long as you provide much bigger profit than what you get from it. If you'll be able to save enough money, good for you, but in general it still means that you were exploited because someone else earned much more than you were worth -- you might not complain about it, you might be ok with it or even like the salary you get but it doesn't change the truth. You know why it's this way? I'll answer you: because enterpreneurs are interested in generating profit, profit that is maximized and bigger than what they pay to the people they hire. The harder truth is that the entire system is build that way so it requires that business owners earn more because otherwise it's too risky to own a business.
People are also animals in general and as such if whoever earns the same as them, they don't perceive that person as the boss they need to listen to unless such person have charisma and that's not always the case when it comes to business owners.
Capitalism addresses predatory predispositions of individuals and values them highly and while it's probably true that in that system everyone has the chance to get to the top it can of doesn't mention that it will require either pure luck or that you need to have certain predisposition or mix of the two and that's why always only a bunch were able to make it and always only a bunch would -- if more than 40% people could get to the top it wouldn't be capitalism anymore (probably even having more than 20% on the top would shatter the capitalistic idea because on average there would be too little work force per business owner).
Capitalism is a primitive and stupid system. Get rid of it.
You should look into "how Denmark took down mcdonalds". Mcdonalds didnt want to adhere to Danish workers rights, and we taught them a lesson.
What lesson could that be when they are so rich from USA alone they do not need yours?
McDonald's left Russia and the profits they were making just because they were against the war.
Same with walmart in Germany
Wasn't the only one either. A lot of American companies tried to pull similar things in Nordic countries and found out really quickly how much Nordic people don't tolerate it.
@LGBTQlegend starbucks tried here here in Australia but they failed
@@kingseb2252 That was for a different reason. It was because their product was substandard.
When I visited the USA was so shocked how customers treated the staff in restaurants. .In the UK every establishment warns that abusing staff we end in prosecution.
On Balkans you don't want to make a cook come out of his kitchen had a friend years ago that worked as a cook chased out unruly customer from restaurant with meat cleaver boss gave him a bonus for it for rest of us customers it was amusing one moment they are loud thinking nobody can touch them the moment they seen a cook running out almost broke a door running away
Yep done that few times In front of boss and got overtime
Same in Canada...you could be charged...
It's funny because in Brazil we're taught tô never anger someone who handles our food
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Lol. Yes that should be common knowledge.
You can put some gross things in just soup alone.🤮
"You shouldn't be expected to be treated fairly." Wow, Yes you should.
The problem is defining what's "fair". You've got Twitter employees whining because they can't take a "mental health day" when they feel like it and have to come into the office to do their work.
Is that fair? I'd say so. I have to work 40 hours a week, minimum, in the office. Why shouldn't they?
Everyone has their own definition of fair. That's why you also get to CHOOSE your employer. If you find their offering unfair, find something better and walk away.
Companies whose compensation isn't fair enough find they can't get workers and either change their offer or go under.
I agree that 'life isn't fair', but humans have the ability to try to address that by striving for fairness for themselves and others in every aspect of their lives. Whether it's an employer or a colleague or a friend or a community.
The point Ryan was making was that 'fair' is not a real thing; life isn't fair, that's a fact. But being treated 'WELL' is much better. That says that not only are you acknowledged as a person, but that you are also VALUED. I've had employers to whom I am just a number and I've had employers who treated me very well indeed. Guess which type is better to work for?
@@Mirrorgirl492 - But being treated "well" is also subjective. Someone might think they're being treated well while the co-worker next to them thinks they're not, despite getting the same compensation and treatment.
But it's up to THEM to define what "well" means for them, and whether they wish to accept what they have or look for something better.
No one EVER stops to think that the employer may be offering them the best they can, even to the point of sacrificing their own earnings (particularly in small businesses) to give their employees what they are. And few employers are willing to admit how tough times are to their employees unless it's already painfully obvious.
Fact is though, they still don't have a gun to their head preventing them from finding better work elsewhere.
@@phydeux People has a right to organise and demand fair wages, paid overtime, paid sickdays ect. Its thanks to those workers that started unions and organised them selfs that we have good paid jobs today, paid vacation, overtime pay, 40/37 hours work week, and more. We dont live in the dark ages anymore
Other first world nations dont really consider the US a first world country. It is better described as an 'industrialised third world country'
I describe the U.S. as "the first-world country with third-world problems."
Yes ,when I was in 35 years ago many low paid workers were working 60 hours a week (which was standard). When they went to take vacations. Many were told they wouldn't have job when they come back.
A 3rd World Nation with a Gucci Belt.
It is a third world country
Facts!
Man as an Australian, i am absolutely shocked at the treatment of the average worker. I actually find it horrendous, almost disgusting that USA the land of the free doesn't offer any paid vacations as an industry standard. Mental health is so important, spending time with family is so precious and yet most people can't take a day off for these important things without losing money.
Only for non-casual employees. Casuals and contractors (a lot of whom are employees in all but name) get zero paid leave - annual, sick, parental or any other.
And not all those supposed contractors are getting paid more - they just have to pay their own super, get no training, no paid leave, no penalty rates.
Why should unskilled workers get such luxury benefits?
Before you get any job you can go to the government and tell them your mental health is messed up.
Before you get any job you can spend time with your family.
If you want your job to pay for that you should be a highly skilled worker or work for the government .
The average McDonald's worker is not highly skilled or works for the government.
When a poor/unskilled American creates a kid they cant afford it is like you expect the government or their employer to compensate for what they did when they did not have to and there is multiple negative consequences for a society when you do that.
There is some positive's also but I would say more negative.
@@logicaldebateUSA Annual holidays, sick leave and Parental leave are luxury benefits to you? You are essentially saying blue collar workers don't deserve these basic things. As not all are highly skilled but can be hard work never the less.
Literally any job you work in Australia will offer you 4 weeks of vacation, sick pay and parental leave if you are are fully employed, it is illegal to not allow an employee to such benefits.
@@skyz6708 Of course it luxury benefits when the company can instantly replace you and get someone new to do about the same level and quality of work as you do.
If you want more benefits just get the education or trade or connection to get that type of job. Start you own business or work for one that has better odds to promote you.
Tons of Americans refuse to do that and have kids they cant afford and expect the government and their employer to fix it for them.
A government job in USA is different because it represents the people and a company like mcdonalds does not.
A government job still needs to be profitable or worthwhile enough to justify giving that out though or it causes problems for that society.
I saw a video about England where they were saying tons of pubs all over were going out of business and one strong reason why was their min wage laws like yours.
Some of the pubs they said were over 100 years old but when the landlord raised the rent of the pub the only way they could make money was to raise the cost of food and beer and everything else so high it put them out of business.
Those English bartenders and waitresses and cooks that were all working there all lost their jobs where if they could all make under their min wage or there was no min wage they could keep their jobs.
It is one thing to view like all these rich companies can easily afford to pay every low skilled worker luxury benefits and they will stay and pay it. If that was really how it was I could be cool with it but small businesses and poor people who want to start their own do not fit in that bubble.
@@logicaldebateUSA i get your point and agree that every system is flawed and cannot be perfect but i think working basicaly full time and still not being able to make ends meet is just wrong. On top of that in the us u dont have public healthcare so if youre not earning lots of money you dont get any healthcare. These benefits being a must in eu for example shows that worker is important and tou can have a comfy life even with minimum wage. I think that priotritizing huge companies over peoples needs is cruel and those benefits should be standard and calling it a luxury for me as a eu citizen is just wild
It always amazes me that a country that treats its workforce so badly, dares to have an annual holiday called "Labor Day".
Out of 365 days a year they get attention on one, all other 364 days are employers day.
John . You are terribly brainwashed!! American workers make more money than Europeans, and we pay less taxes on it !!
I like to have more money in my hands , instead of relying on government decisions with my money and handouts !!
NOW you are protesting your governments in Europe. Start using your own brain!!
@@martinko4086 Correct, average income in the US is higher than in Europe, but it is less spread. The 1% rich earn so much that it pulls up the average enormously.
But 25% of jobs in the US are low income jobs of $7 to $15 an hour, while for the same job in Europe €18 to €22 is being paid.
Health care is far more expensive, and if you do not save for old age, you're lost.
Middle income people in Europe may earn less, but pay less for rent, insurance, commute costs, etc. etc., so at the end of the day European have more 'free' spending than Americans. And ten times more free time to spend it on trips and adventure, quality time with their kids, while Americans spend their money on stuff that fills their houses.
Simply look around, US infra is crumbling, US youth is lost, crime, drugs and violence are everywhere. More Americans move to Europe than Europeans to the US. That should activate your brain... or not?
Paradise doesn't exist on earth, not in Europe nor in the US.
@@dutchman7623 Agree , higher income in the USA over income in Europe is less spread . There is NOTHING wrong with it . According to your "European logic " , worker waiter in restaurant or receptionist in the hotel "should " make as much as university professor, or person working in the coal mine ?? We are NOT all equal !!
Agree , Minimum wage in SOME European countries are $ 18- $22 /hour , but you pay higher taxes from it !! 1 dollar = 1 euro these days !!
NOW , talking about Europe minimum wage are you including European countries like Albania , Kosovo , Slovakia , Poland , Bulgaria, Romania ... etc .. ?? or you conveniently EXCLUDE them from your calculation ?? speaking of "spread " . NOW lets start with "Middle income " in Europe, who pay less ?? for everything ?? like VAT ?? Gasoline ??
Why are you constantly hitting on health care in the USA ?? MY wife had 5 different major operation , and we did not go bankrupt !!WE have good insurance which cost probably more than yours , but as middle class we can afford it and it is good quality . WE can choose health care insurance with lot more options than your government subsidized H CARE !!
@@martinko4086 Your mind is filled with misconceptions. What makes you think everyone gets the same wages just because we have a higher minimum?
And yes, standard of living varies, just like in the US. Places like Porto Rico, Detroit, New Orleans, or the Marshall Islands do not have the same prosperity like New York or Los Angeles.
And yes, the middle class in Europe is better off than those in the US. Average costs of living are lower, commutes are much shorter, and there are alternatives to the car.
Just the fact that you measure your health care by the number of hospital visits of your wife? We do not keep those statistics because we do not have to. Life expectancy in Europe is much higher than in the US, and increasing, while it goes down in the US. Should make you think, doesn't it?
In Australia, paying people a decent wage and providing paid holiday leave is seen as good for the economy. People who are well paid can afford to spend money in Australian businesses and buy Australian made products. Paid holiday leave means people have time and money to take vacations, which benefits tourism related businesses and regions and creates jobs for others. Also, free healthcare is good for the economy as it ensures employers have a healthy workforce, with less time lost due to untreated illness.
We take holidays not vacations though
Not just in Australia, in the entitre civilised world!
And to encourage you to take leave, Australians also get Leave Loading. You're not only getting paid during your leave in general, but you are getting MORE money on top of that as a reward for taking it in the first place.
Aside from helping the economy, a healthy and happy worker is a good worker. You will always get better quality work out of anyone if they are appropriately treated, rested and refreshed regularly. Everyone wins - healthy economy, healthier population, less burden on the healthcare system, greater benefits for the population as a whole in terms of advancements in industry, manufacturing and technology, etc etc etc.
It is amazing that the US can't see beyond profit as a motivator. It is the greatest opposite definition of "Land of the free". In fact, you can't help but think that slogan is possibly a capitalist creation to distract citizens enough to not notice how they are being completely exploited.
@@Wandafulofit Holidays as in Public or State (ie Australia Day, Queens Birthday), vacations as in paid leave. This is the metric used in the table provided in the video. Yes all can be called holidays.
The Australian economy is collapsing as the entire west due to inflation, our leaders want to utterly destroy the west and create indentured servitude worldwide not just in America through the soon introduction of a one world order without nation states.
It’s strange. Here in Australia working at McDonalds is not seen as a “lowly” job. As someone who was in the past in a position where I’d hire people, our company (a very large company) saw people who worked st Macca’s very favourably. They were seen as well-disciplined, able to work in a team, good at customer service with a good work ethic. In my current job I got to work behind the Macca’s counter for McHappy Day for charity and it was exhausting. Those workers are not lazy, it was damn hard work. I’ve chatted to many employers over the years here in Australia and those who’ve worked at Macca’s for a while are seen very positively in most cases. Craig
Yes, it's absolutely disgusting how low level workers here in the States are looked down upon as not even being worthy of any sort of acknowledgement. This due to their jobs. I work in the human resources division of a large chem tech firm. We should emulate some of what I've read some comments here have said. Something to the effect that workers with experience at a fast-food establishment, such as McDonald's, having been given better placement as consideration for employment in our establishment. More focus should also be given to graduates from one of the well-esteemed universities located outside of the United States. I'm certain there's a vast, untouched area of potential applicants there ... somewhere.
Like all workers there are good and bad, as a fellow Aussie I never understood why fast food workers were seen as lower than restaurant staff. Although we don’t usually tip in Australia, we went to drive through Maccas once a week, we always got the same girl taking our order and money, she was so happy and bubbly, just the sort of person that brightens your day to hear her voice. As it was close to Christmas my daughter and I decided to give her a $30 tip as a thanks for her always being so nice and cheerful. ( I know that may not be a lot by American standards) I was so embarrassed when she burst into tears and was so grateful. I really hope her bosses appreciate what a wonderful employee they had in her. I had mentioned her name to the supervisor a few weeks earlier too. People a quick to complain but great service should also be commended too
Quite right. As an employer, I always rated a stint with Macca’s as a plus on a young person’s CV. I know plenty of politicians, doctors, lawyers, journalists and heaven knows what other trades and professions, who got their first job with Macca’s.
@@chriswharton Bloke , all went smoothly till You referenced , politicians (💩) .
I’m a tradie and I’m on around 70 a year after tax right . a manger at kfc is on more then me. But see I don’t complain as I don’t care 🤷♂️
If you keep the population poor, educate them poorly, and keep them misinformed, it's easier to control them. Greetings from Europe where we have lots of freedoms. That includes the freedom not to be shot in schools, movie theatres, churches, or anywhere else where the public gathers.
their pets shoot them in their own cars, so you can just say everywhere without being specific.
thankyou! I say the US keep them as mushrooms {Keep them in the dark feed them B/S} The American is on the whole very nice and helpful. I wish they knew how the world people live.
The way American employers behave would be highly illegal in the rest of the world. They would never get away with it, in fact they don't, American companies that also operate in other countries have to obey their local employment laws. In New Zealand a MacDonald's worker would get $22.50 an hour + 4 weeks paid annual leave + paid sick leave + paid public holidays, and for those who work on public holidays they are paid extra, like double time + they get a paid day in lieu to replace the missed holiday that they can take off whenever they like. That's because the law says that's the way it has to be. So the bullshit excuse they use in the US that "they'll go broke" if they paid livable wages, when they make Billions in profit, is nothing more than lies, the real reason is because they can get away with paying slave wages because there's no protection laws for employees.
Saw a news story, two weeks ago, the small restaurant had to close due to the wages he was mandated to pay his staff. He had to raise his prices to try and make up for the extra money he had to devote to those wages. As he said, "people just won't come in - it's too expensive". This was in Australia.
@@rightlyso8507 Then the food probably wasn't very good.
People eat where they enjoy good food..
The flip side to that as mentioned in the video, those business that can't afford to pay fair wages shouldn't be in business. Think if it as detrimental on overall societal health.
@@rightlyso8507 you do know that Australia and other countries have had these benefits for years right? One restaurant dlisubf claiming it was what he had to pay people? Why is it difficult to accept that people have a right to he paid fairly for their labour?
@@rightlyso8507 it was also propaganda as we were in an election cycle and the opposition (which won) wanted to raise minimum wage to better match inflation. Those who supported the conservative government were going to the media and saying they couldn’t afford to raise wages by $1 an hour or their businesses would go bust. The overwhelming response was that people on low incomes deserve a living wage and a well paid employee can help boost the economy because they then have money to spend and put back into those same businesses. Hence the new government was elected.
A friend and I travelled as registered nurses after we graduated. We were offered positions in agencies in Canada, England, Hong Kong and the USA. The benefits in all the other countries were at least double that of the USA. So we went on holidays to the States and worked in the other countries.
That is really smart.
Thank you th-cam.com/users/shortskgdHvjgtsOo
I believe of the four places mentioned, only one of them still enjoys their basic inherent freedoms - the USA. But, hey, if the pay is good!
@@rightlyso8507 The USA had 10 days holidays, minimal sick leave and much longer working hours and expensive healthcare. The wages were all fairly similar in the different countries but the benefits were staggeringly bad in the USA. This is also going back 20 years ago. All positions everywhere else had minimum 10 days sick leave, 38h hour week, maternity leave and minimum 4 weeks holidays plus healthcare. Yeah, the other countries citizens are really *suffering* from lack of basic *freedoms*. What 'inherent basic freedoms' does the USA have that other countries don't? Oh, sorry, people in Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, most of Europe are not free or don't have 'inherent basic freedoms' according to you. What a crock!
@@chrmnlp4413 A lot of Canadian nurses and other medical professionals leave Canada for employment in the U.S. though....it is a real problem here (Canada) that is making our healthcare system worse and worse. If pay is similar what would be the drawing card?
The US top employer, Walmart, does not operate in Australia because they have no interest in modifying their employment practices to comply with Australian labour laws.
walmart tried der american way in germany (1997-2006), with the result of a big financial loss ...
In Norway Walmart was banned from starting up. and even the oil fund isn't allowed to invest in Walmart due to it's labour laws.
Looks like they bailed out of UK too. Sold off ASDA. Probably for the best for the sake of UK.
Same in Belgium, no walmart here, I think they tried to come here some years ago ( Ithink it was walmart, not 100% sure) but it didn't work out for em. Good riddance 🙂
My boyfriend works at Walmart, his position isn’t at all Walmarts so I’m not sure what the name is, but he is basically an online shopper (someone orders on the phone, he gets all the items, and brings it to their car) he works full time, for where we live that’s 9am-6pm, everyday, Tuesday & Wednesdays off.
They have a point system for Paid Time Off, which isn’t what you think it is. PTO isn’t even guaranteed, meaning even if you request a day off months in advance & get it approved- the manager can still call you in to work. You’d have to have Protected Paid Time Off (PPTO) and the only way to do that is through their point system, (x amount of points will get you y amount of hours off) to get even 1 HOUR of PPTO, he has to work about 2 weeks of full time hours. So if we wanted to take a vacation? Forget about it.
The US is not even close to treating workers fairly.
A couple years ago, my friend’s mom just had a baby (that wasn’t planned) and when the baby was just about a month old, we had a terrible storm where a tree fell down right over the baby’s bedroom, his mom(who also works at Walmart) wasn’t allowed to leave work to take the baby to the hospital even though she explained the situation, her boss said “no, you took enough time off when you had the baby. Have someone else check on her” which is too appalling to think about. So she had to call my friend who was at work too, to check on the baby, he worked at KFC (food chain) they told him they didn’t care what happened to the house, they’re too busy and needed him there, and that if he left- he was fired. Thankfully he did the right thing and left, and the baby was okay, but two separate employers for two different massive corporations were told that a tree fell on top of a newborn’s room, and needed to get home asap- and they couldn’t care less
You say the world is not fair....spoken like a true American. 🇭🇲
In what country is the world fair?
You going to speak like that about Americans without even an example of a fair country?
@@logicaldebateUSAyou're only showing your stupidity across the comments
the world is not fair, so it's on us as the ones to have transcended the natural order to make it a better place
@@logicaldebateUSADo you want just a few or all 100+ countries listed out to you?
@@AIHumanEquality You going to lie to me now obviously.
@@logicaldebateUSA You didn't answer the question. Do you want to know or not?
“life is not fair” is a sentence that perpetuates itself. of course it won’t become fair if everyone just dismisses any attempt to make it more fair.
I agree that we should always be working towards more fairness, but 'life' is definitely not 'fair'. I work with folks with intellectual and physical disabilities. They were born that way, that's 'life', it not fair, but it's 'life'. Some people are born into poverty with no way out, that's not fair, but that's 'life', life is not fair. Some folks are born into wealth and never learn the value of anything, that's not fair, but that's 'life'. Life is not fair. When we realize and accept that, then we can see clearly where we can make a real difference, where we can tip the scales towards fairness.
@@Mirrorgirl492 Life is not a sentient being capable of thought. Life is an abstract concept.
How could life therefore be "fair", when the definition of "fair" is to treat people equally.
People can be fair, Life cannot.
The sentence "Life is not fair" is a bullshit argument because people reject the notion of us being fair to one another, under the idea that "life" doesn't do it.
Like, say that to yourself and listen to how ridiculous it is. "Life isn't fair, why should I be?" "Life doesn't pay taxes, why should I?" etc.
Move on from pedantic arguments that are irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
@@MoonchTheLax Why are you directing this to me? I already said all that and we agree.
Not fair? Measured up against what?
True. Sadly all yall socialists prefer it more unfair
"Fairly" is exactly the correct word to use. Saying, 'well, the World isn't fair' is just a cop-out Such an argument, if widely accepted, would mean no social progress at all. Fairness is a human concept, not a natural law. Rape and murder are 'natural' but we don't accept them as good or just. We know what fairness is and it's up to us if we want to make the World a fairer place, or not...
What do you expect? The average american is bombarded 100s of times per day with how amazing America is, to the point where children get indoctrinated at schools and have to recite the pledge of allegiance day in and day out. We used to have these circumstances too in Germany, kids went to the "Hitlerjugend" (Hitler Youth) and were taught how great the german Reich and Hitler are, flags everywhere - it's the very same practice but now it starts to sound dangerous, right? Again all they hear day in day out is how great everything is and that they are the only ones in the world to enjoy rEaL fReEdOm and only good guys with a weapon can stop a bad guy with a weapon.
Why should they even invest a single second of their precious leisure time to read up how they rank in anything on a global scale when they already know that they are the best in everything like they are told over and over and over and over...
As much as I enjoy letting americans explain to me how they are so great when they usually rank below third world countries although being the richest nation in the world I can also understand why so many of them online seem semi-intelligent and that it's very hard to overcome years and years of being fed lies by the own government.
You can't control every aspect of life, but your work place, school or whatever essential service, should be fair. That can be regulated.
The problem isn't that. The problem is that people expect society to protect them from nature. It can't. Society needs to be structured in a way to account for the inequities of existence and compensate. You cannot...EVER...change the rules of reality. All you can do is adapt. And we don't. People are convinced of that bullshit "eagle flies with the dove" bullshit.
We can make a good social system for ourselves within the confines of reality. We cannot make reality better. Even if we develop technology to control life itself, to create perfect planets with diverse and stable, engineered ecosystems...it won't change anything. The universe is still slowly dying, and we're going to die with it. The only way to keep us going...is to kill and destroy other things. Period.
As it is, we're still kind of killing and destroying ourselves for personal gain, rather than our species banding together to more carefully and judiciously killing and destroying other things as "sustainably" as is mathematically feasible. But everything about life is death and destruction first, and always will be.
l K R? It sounded to me like: " My new stepdad is so nice for not beating me", like, DUDE. It's basic decency, you've been brainwashed badly.
He's an American who is brain washed. To say shit like that shows how out of touch, and pro corporations many of those people are.
Ryan, proudly: I'm getting two weeks!
Me: laughs in horrified European
I got nine months for having twins🍼👶👼 in Madrid 100 % pay...it would have been six months with just a normal single pregnancy 🤰.
My friend (a father) just went on 3 months parental leave last week xd
Precisely. Lithuania
@@adapienkowska2605 When I became a father the mother first took 8 months of, and after that I took 7 months of with 80% of our usual salary.
@@adapienkowska2605 How much is your salary a month and what kind of work do you do ?? Or it do not matter as long as you got 3 month parental leave ??
Hi Ryan,
I'm Dutch living in Berlin, Germany and I love your videos and your comments!
This time you said something I was really surprised about: "The world is not fair, so you cannot expect to be treated fairly (by your boss / company.)"
Even if the world - as it is now - is not fair or sharing or friendly, we do teach our children to treat others fairly, don't we? We teach them to share and to be friendly and polite. And it is normal to be fair and friendly to our family, our neighbors, our friends, and also to random people on the street, isn't it?
Taxes for example are there to try to make the world a litte fairer: the (very) rich pay more than the (very) poor (or at least they should) to the state, in order to enable everybody to go to school / to use the streets / to get basic healthcare etc.
So why should a CEO of a company (a person that surely earns 20 or 30 times more than their employees, and owns 1000 or 10,000 more than them) all of a sudden no longer be required to treat their employees fairly and friendly? Of course they should! And of course we should expect that from them! Especially because it is the same employees that ensure the CEO to earn all that money!
CEOS make more than 1000 times what an employee does
@@utethornburg7715 In US CEOs make on average 400 times more. In europe: Germany: 147. Norway: 16. So it's very different from each european country but no one comes close to US.
The idea that a company can discriminate against people for working "part time" hours is insane. Here in the UK, you get the same contract as any other worker with the same benefits. Working part time just means you work less hours and your salary is pro-rata.
In America, most jobs don’t have a contract.
@@temitopeej8407 Here only businesses that offer jobs under the table (no taxes) offer jobs without a contract... or the occasional shady job offer you should never accept. Shouldn't expect to see salary on time if there's no contract, and they might just decide to not pay.
Over recent decades it feels more and more like we in the UK are trying to immitate the US way of doing things when we can get away with it. The most recent weeze to scam low paid hard workers was zero hours contracts.
@@temitopeej8407 This is because in US it is believed that only true value is in money whereas outisde US it is believed that true value lies elswhere: in human dignity, in national heritage, in local culture, in local community. So how about US for a change focus on where else it sees values aside from money so that it could base better social care in it instead of trying to force-feed its own "only money has any value" to all economic systems across the globe? Really, especially now during incoming stagflation in some regions of the world and mass famine in others this "only money has value" culture is highly toxic. So please, if some ideas didn't work out so well for youe own internal market, please stop forcefully exporting them to other economic systems.
@@spugelo359 In the US, many blue chip companies, multinationals and the like only hire “at will”. Which means they can let you go for any or no reason. This is unacceptable anywhere else in the developed world. When you get to higher levels of management, you will get a contract. I believe everyone should have a contract.
The interesting thing is that, these same companies follow the laws in European countries where they do business. Which creates a two tier system within the same organization.
I worked for McDonalds while I was studying. A rude client said something like 'people working here must be dumb (not intelligent) why else would they work here?' My answer: "That waitress studies french literature, that guy in the kitchen studies mathematics, I study ... What is your job?" Client pays and leaves.
The young man working at the register of my local supermarket is studying mathematics.
Yep, my daughter worked there during high school and then went on to study Law as did one of her friends. People work very hard. It’s gruelling work.
I worked for a Furniture Removalist years ago. We employed young fit guys to relocate people when they moved house. It was hard work. We had Medical Students, Trainee Nurses, Teachers and young Lad studying Civil Engineering etc. because they could fit the work in around their studies. We trained them but we knew they had other goals. I also chat to young people at the register in Woolies or Coles. Many of them are studying. Never judge anyone or open your big mouth until you know the full story.
In my culture all jobs are respected alltho to be fair if someones 30 and not educated its pretty weird considering education is free here and government even pays you some money to study. Still some people just love being in jobs that require no education as you still get 30days of vacation time in a year.
I'm Icelandic, I'm just a normal 29 years old female who works in a chocolate factory and I'm watching this video in my paid summer vacation right now. I've worked only 2 years in that factory but I took out 6 weeks this year also because I barely did anything last summer because of Covid. This law also exists in Iceland where for most jobs there is mandatory 3-4 weeks paid vacation at minimum. I recommend watching the movie "Where to invade next" by Michael Moore.
If only more Americans listened to the smart people (e.g. Michael Moore) that they do actually have in that country…
i want to move to iceland but can you move it a bit closer to the equator XD...
Mmmmm chocolate.
@@ioim1985 Haha I wish, but I understand you 😂
@@rickmeyer6096 It's the best
Australian here, the fact that most americans don't get paid leave is just astounding to me. here if you work for a company for 10 years you get what is known as long service leave, basically its a 13 week long paid holiday. while at the time of its creation it was there so you could catch a 6 week long boat to see your family in england for a week and catch a 6 week boat back.
Getting luxury benefits as a low skilled worker is not logical that businesses agree to pay that. I understand they are still profitable if they stay but it does not change that.
From my American point of view it would be like someone in another country goes to jail but they a low level Mcdonald's employee so Mcdonald's bails them out of jail and pays them money per day for the crime they did.
If it was the head manager and the crime was not serious that would be one thing but if it was a low level employee it would be insanity to do that.
Paid leave for vacations, maternity and paternity is just ridiculous when they can instantly replace you for someone around as good as you are.
In USA you need actual skills to be treated that well where they can't or do not want to replace you.
If an unskilled job has to be done, it is as important as a skilled job. And workers rights are human rights! You can’t put human rights on different levels for different jobs.
In some cases eligibility for long service leave is 7 years and not 10.
@@paulineryan579it is if you leaves after 7 years they will pay you however after ten years service you don’t need to leave your job to get long service
I live in Canada, Vancouver, BC to be exact. The minimum wage in BC is $15.65 per hour. This means that a counter attendant at Macdonald's will make this amount. I have never understood why people discriminate against MacDonald's employees. After all, you can't get your Big Mac if there isn't anyone working there. Every job, I mean EVERY job, has value.
I think having been a McDonald's employee is a good thing to have on a student's resume.
For all the things mentioned above:
team work, customer service, punctuality...general professionalism.
If I'm not out-of-date, there is a 2/3 day
"training course"- classroom and behind the counter...at least there used to be.
Richmond, BC
Def! Essential workers in the pandemic here in the UK were not management consultants lol
In Australia it is normally school kids 15 - 18 that works fast food part-time for spending money while attending school, their wage is a lot less until they’re 18.
👍💯 $7 is slave labour imo rediculous In Australia the minimum wage is $18 even at MacDonald I think
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Even with your super high min wage you still have poverty and in some ways it even helps contribute to it by the rents being raised more.
I think the fact that you think 'fair' isn't the right word to use when it comes to empoyment actually says a lot to me.
Yep, i could not "believe" he said that then i remembered he is "american" after all.
@@curtisalex456 no what he did say is that fair means more beeing treated like the others... which means if all are beeing treated bad that is FAIR. So he said we should treat people WELL because what is fair.....
And do you know why McDonald's can afford to treat their staff fairly in Denmark? Because the Danish government has put laws in place to guarantee the fair payment of workers. What they also guarantee is McDonald's being kicked out of Denmark if they violate the law.
Damn you, overreaching government!
Americans would call that socialism.
@@sprig5173
I really don't care how a minority of this planet would call it ;)
Same in UK 👍
@@sprig5173 I mean... it IS a big thing in socialism. Equality and economic security for everyone are one of the fundemental pillars of socialism so the American whiners are right in that it is a socialist view on how a government and a society should be but they don't see that it's actually a very GOOD thing.
It was NOT our government, but our strong workers unions who did it possible for the McDonald's workers to get that payment and benefits. :)
As an Aussie who is working at a supermarket while I study, I've noticed loads of American's who visit are very rude to our staff, as though they see us as less because we are "serving" them, these tend to have Californian or LA I assume vased on their accents. On the other hand, doesn't go for every American, I have a few nice ones here and there. And the nicest travelers tend to be Canadian's, very friendly and talkative and most want to live in Australia.
I think that because of the lack of employment rights in the US, employees behave in a very servile way to customers in order to keep their jobs.
As such customers know that they can be as rude as they like with almost total impunity.
They then try that abroad and is a shock when employees do not put up with that behaviour.
Try behaving like that in the UK, France or Italy, Go on, I dare you.
I am American.
#1. The standard American accent which is also a California accent / Western USA accent applies to multiple states for the most part. Even some Canadians can sound like this in most of their accent / dialect until they say a specific word in a Canadian accent.
What I mean is that if you go to Nevada, Arizona, Oregon or Colorado they will not sound that different from the average Californian other than some individual words here and there. There can be exceptions though.
#2. Some Americans treat staff bad because they can almost always get away with it
There is even an American slogan which supports this and is really old.
"The customer is always right"
I think even Japan has a belief like that also to this day.
A business owner that wants to profit type viewpoint.
That it is so easy to get away with just reinforces why they do it and want to do it. Our country would have to change that.
#3. Many Americans are not taught to be respectful to others
With that being said what some Americans call respectful and disrespectful can be a night and day difference and since these are opinions it gets complicated.
I have said things where some Americans called me disrespectful and I could get why they felt that way but that was not actually my intention and even others who heard me did not take it that way.
My point being is it is not always obvious and some Americans get disrespected way too easily.
You probably earn more than them 🤣
@@HelmutEvrard It has nothing to do with that.
Americans who are rude to staff some are rich and some have less money than the one who works a min wage job.
If they can afford or their family can afford to go to Australia, odds are someone has money.
I blame it on managers who always cater to the ass customer over their workers.. most of the time they will side with the customer until the customer leaves and then joke with the employee how at how much of an ass the customer was. It’s really shitty and over time it’s getting worse. The workers know talking back to a Dick customer will usually get them fired.
You really startled me as an Australian an when you said you shouldn't expect a company to treat (its workers) fairly.
Over here we do hold that up as the expected standard, although it's all too common for companies not to do so. When that gets exposed, the company general suffers. (Often is legally punished.)
The important point is "legally punished". Let me kinda disagree and kinda agree with Ryan: you *should* expect a company to treats its workers fairly, but you *can't* expect them to do it. Hence laws that force them to (and punish them, mostly too mildly, when they don't). Same for, say, environmental regulations. You need them because most companies (and certainly pretty much all the big ones) would do horrible shit if they could get away with it (and they occasionally get caught doing it anyway… which also naturally implies that they at least sometimes do get away with it)
I am American and an unskilled worker getting luxury benefits is way past "fair" and in the countries I have looked at who demand that for all jobs your economy can / will be hurt from doing that when you did not have to.
#1. McDonald's or any big business can move out of Australia
If it is not profitable enough or a government makes it too difficult they will leave. They are the ones paying that luxury for their employees and they have the option to stop.
Do not act like it would be a financial benefit to your country if they close and move away.
#2. Because even the lowest unskilled job pays so well it means landlords can raise rents at a faster rate compared to if there was no min wage at all
In general tons of things go up in price right after min wage is raised even in USA. The cost of tons of food in grocery stores seem to go up soon also.
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Any town could just not have enough places to live due to the amount of the population being so high as the main reason though.
#3. A poor unskilled person in any country that creates kids they cant afford generally always hurts the economy
If any culture / country views this as acceptable or not a crime I thinks it is just asking to hurt the economy unless the population is so low and there is not enough workers for all the jobs and the government is cool with it.
#4. Wanting the government or big business to fix everything and give the poor everything where they do not have to take any responsibility for their own situation is something that should be taught as not being a good idea for the individual or the country in school.
There was a documentary about an American woman with 2 kids or more who worked at McDonald's and if I remember she wanted the workers to strike so she would get a " living wage " just like Australia and I wanted to say to her why did you create 2 kids you can't afford? Why do you not get an education to get a skilled job?
She was blaming McDonald's for her own problems.
I wish what I am saying was a class in school she would have been required to take before she had kids.
@@logicaldebateUSAit’s “luxury” for you, you’ve been told that having paid holidays is somehow “luxury”, for me as an European it’s a standard, no matter skilled or not, a person is doing a job for the employer, so it’s only fair that they’ll look after people that literally make them rich.
@@italianspiderman5012 Americans who get an education or skill "earn" those jobs.
Giving them to everyone there is obvious negatives that people like you do not think about.
The real estate and cost of rent issue is worse in every country with a higher min wage with benefits compared to USA that I have researched.
The Canadian minimum wage is a lot higher but real estate is a nightmare for poor people. It is the same way in England and Australia.
Did you know Canada has more land than USA and they still have that problem.
If I am wrong please give me an example.
Can some poor McDonald's worker in Italy easily afford their own flat since they get those benefits? I am assuming you are from there.
It even says in those happiest countries in the world that Americans are happier compared to some of the countries the poor are treated so much better with min wage or it is almost no difference.
Poland is supposed to get those benefits at McDonald's? but it says they are still less happy. It says people in Italy are less happy than Americans too.
@@logicaldebateUSA Poles are never happy, trust me, people in general are never happy, but “feelings” are not the greatest argument. Now, I’m not saying that unskilled people should get high payed jobs, but they should be able to live comfortably, that’s all, do you object to that?
Oddly at least in Australia, I've been told by employers that they see McDonald's experience on your resume as being a very good thing, as their training is very good relative to other low skill jobs.
Same in New Zealand. McDonalds is considered to have one of the best company business plans, at least outside of the states.
The focus on customer service and the discipline required in the job, make McDonald workers very attractive to other employers.
Genuine question- is this true, or is it *perhaps* propaganda we've been told by maccas themselves?? Like we all just know this, but who started the rumour about this??
I had worked at Maccas while at school. The father of an acquaintance asked his son to find out if he knew of anyone who had worked at McDonalds that were looking for a job. That's how I got a job as a trainee welder/fitter. During the interview I was told by my future boss that he liked the work ethic of McDonalds workers he had hired in the past.
I found uni students who also worked part-time for Maccas, taking part in their training programmes, had excellent time management and problem-solving skills
@@sadmermaid I've never worked maccas and I don't work in a career where anyone would care. But it's something that people who work in HR/Recruitment for businesses that have nothing to do with food have told me.
I always feel sorry for American mothers when I read about their so-called maternity leave.
In Russia a mother have 140 days of full paid sick leave (70 days before delivery and 70 days after).
Than you can go back to work. But the state gives you the right to 3 year parental leave: you are going to be paid 40% of your average income until your child is 1.6 y.o (not by employer, but by the state) and you are going to be paid nothing from 1.6 to 3 y.o. but your position will be assigned to you and the employer does not have the right to fire you. So a majority of Russian women choose 3 year!!! of maternity leave.
Furthermore, if you gave birth to your first child, the state will pay you 400,000 rubles (6250$) and for the second child + 300000 (4600$). Thats our demography program 👍🏻 And also families who have their average income (per person in the family) less than 200$/month (after all taxes) can receive an additional payment of 13,000 (203$) per month untill your child got 3y.o.
All people have 28 full paid holidays and in 2021 we had 14 public holidays 😎
And also Russian citizens have free health insurance 🤷🏼♀️
Funny you say that when I was pregnant with my daughter and working (doing hotel housekeeping)... my coworker from Russia was appalled that I was working and planned to work up until I delivered... and would get just 2 weeks off work after... He was genuinely appalled and shocked.
I, as an Australian, have never heard anyone speak poorly to those who work at fast food chains. In fact, that is the job that most of my friends have, especially during high school. Most of my friends use Mc Donalds and KFC as a stepping stone in their carrer, either by gaining experience or having a good resume.
In American culture if you are the customer you can get away with treating the one serving you worse in general so some take advantage of that. It makes no difference what job they have as long as you are the customer.
Some Americans are rude in general to most people though and it has nothing to do with that.
Some Americans also view people with less money as inferior.
Most Americans are generally not like my examples though.
What percentage of Australians that you have encountered would you say are rude in general?
I would say less than 10% of Americans are rude in general but some things some find as rude I would not.
In American culture it is not normal for the average American to thank a cashier for helping them as an example but in another culture that might be viewed as rude. Some Americans will still thank a cashier but I would not view that by default as rude if they do not.
@@logicaldebateUSA In Australia although it's not common to say thank you to workers there is still a level of respect to them. Of course there are some outliers, as i'm sure America has as well, it's generally a very polite place.
Australia has a very welcoming and understanding community as 30 percent of Australians are born overseas (2023) and 48.2 percent (2021) having at least one parent born overseas. This is used as a common ground between Australians as we not only respect the people here but also the place we are blessed to live in.
In terms of your question i wouldn't be able to give you a good answer as i am quiet nieve and see the best in everyone before i see the worst. Also taking my age into consideration and my lack to want to talk to strangers (although behind the screen is different) i would say i've only met 3 people who were 'bad'. I say this with difficulty as one of them were dubbed as so due to their sight irritation and my high stress levels at the moment. The other two just had bad living conditions but used people for their own gain.
Sorry for the late reply.
Feel free to ask anymore questions but no promises on a quick reply.
:)
@@littlemelodyellis1824 Sorry for my late reply so now we are even. I never got the notification actually which annoys me but YT sometimes does not show me.
"In Australia although it's not common to say thank you to workers there is still a level of respect to them. Of course there are some outliers, as i'm sure America has as well, it's generally a very polite place."
I think that is really sweet if that is how it is there but many Americans will not view it as rude if you do not thank them at their job.
I worked as a cashier at a grocery store many years ago and many customers who were really polite and nice to me would never thank me. It is not as big a deal here.
Some Americans do say please and thank you and sir and ma'am but do not be as harsh on an American who does not.
"Australia has a very welcoming and understanding community as 30 percent of Australians are born overseas (2023) and 48.2 percent (2021) having at least one parent born overseas. This is used as a common ground between Australians as we not only respect the people here but also the place we are blessed to live in. "
I had no idea about any of that. That sounds interesting that there is so much diversity.
"In terms of your question i wouldn't be able to give you a good answer as i am quiet nieve and see the best in everyone before i see the worst. Also taking my age into consideration and my lack to want to talk to strangers (although behind the screen is different) i would say i've only met 3 people who were 'bad'. I say this with difficulty as one of them were dubbed as so due to their sight irritation and my high stress levels at the moment. The other two just had bad living conditions but used people for their own gain."
You sound like a much nicer person than average if you can only think of 3 people. I wish I could say the same about Americans I met.
Most Americans are not going to shoot or rob someone that is a stereotype. Most Americans I have met do not own a gun either even when they can. I am not saying you think those things but I just wanted to say that.
"Sorry for the late reply.
Feel free to ask anymore questions but no promises on a quick reply.
:)"
I do have another question for you.
Why does your country not build skyscrapers to help your homeless problem in the more country / rural parts?
I saw a doc on Bellingen Australia and I thought that would help the problem.
My other question is have you ever met a poor Australian who owns or started a business before? because allegedly since employees cost so much there most Australians "who are poor" would never do that.
Thank you in advance for teaching me about your country.
@@logicaldebateUSA Homelessness is a big problem in Australia thats not often talked about. As inflation is rising everyday products are slowly increasing in price. Meaning that cheap supplies that people in poverty and those who are homeless rely on are often doubling in price. Not to mention that the average housing prices has been increasing since 1983 with prices being bellow 100k to 2020 at 600k. Thats an increase of 500k in only 37 years. However, since 2020 there has been a small dip in the prices but will increase by 2 percent at the end of 2023. Rent prices are also soaring as inflation takes a toll. From February 2022 to February 2023 rent has increased by 24 per cent. This means that people below the poverty line, witch consists of 13.6% of Australians, are suffering from inflation.
In Australia to be considered over the poverty line you must earn more than 1,148.15 AUD (760.19 USD at the current exchange rate of 0.66USD to 1AUD) per week if you are a family of four with one working parent and two dependant children.
However good news is that the minimum wage will increase in July to $882.80 per week or $23.23 per hour (USD is $584.50 per week or $15.38 per hour).
Interestingly 54.4% of people from ages 15-19 have a job in Australia. Makes since cause most of the people my age around me works, often times more than one job.
Regarding skyscrapers in rural areas it is not something we really want. Not only will it take a lot of time and money to make a skyscraper in the outback it will also take a lot of engineering. We don't want repeat of the 'Walkie-Talkie' skyscraper in London that melted and set fire to things surrounding it cause it reflected intense light. Also there is also a need to take into consideration that the foundation would have to be very sturdy to hold a skyscraper, witch the sand dirt of outback Australia is not. Another reason is because a skyscraper is something that can be seen from a distance, it literally beaks the skyline. This can be seen as intrusive and takes away from the natural beauty of the Australian landscape.
There is also the fact that most homeless people in Australia live in big cities such as Melbourne, Sydney, Perth and Brisbane (aka the four biggest cities in Australia not including Canberra the capital city). And adding more skyscrapers there would be more beneficial, although very expensive.
There are several nonprofit organisations that help homelessness that revive donations from the community. My school regularly donates to such organisations. Just last week we were able to raise one thousand dollars for the Cancer Council and SleepBus (money split in half to each organisation). There are also organisation like OrangeSky, Salvation Army, Vinnies, Queensland Shelters and so much more. In my old school we were able to not just double but triple our donation goal to afford three giant hay bails for dairy farmers outback. I can't find the pic on their facebook page but each of them needed a truck each. They were MASSIVE. These organisations and shelters are seen to be more reasonable and achievable than a skyscraper in the middle of nowhere. Plus it will probably raise housing prices of the community. Value of the estate/community rising or something. I don't know much cause i don't study economics i do accounting :(
All this was from a quick research on the almighty google.
Questions :)
Why dose America have so many bulk item stores like Cosco and that one storage container stores?
Also whats up with Starbucks? Is it actually good coffee or is it people being addicted?
If you don't know anyone with guns why are there so many guns in America? I mean you have more guns than people so where are they? Do the police just owns A LOT of guns?
Talking about guns (sorry i know its a very talked about topic) why do poeple seem to need/want guns? Also wouldn't guns become more .... unpopular??? as the new generation becomes adults? (Go gen Zs go!)
Why are there so many fast food places?
Oh wow this was very long sorry.
@@littlemelodyellis1824 The skyscraper idea obviously has some downsides but if the government can use that to drive rents lower that is the main benefit but at a certain point a big enough city just needs people to move away over more housing created.
Raising minimum wage generally does not help anything because the cost of many things in every country just go up right after it happens.
It is a false sense of help.
Keeping the cost of rents and homes down in the areas that still need more people and making it so the cost of everyday items are more affordable is far more important.
Some people in all countries do not want to leave the rich parts due to family or other reasons and some hurt themselves by not moving. Parts of my country are not affordable for the poor and other parts are much better.
Costco is like a grocery store on steroids. Some Americans love buying in bulk at an affordable price because they have a big family. Many Americans never shop there though. You should get an American with a membership to take you when you visit here.
Starbucks is fast food coffee. Anyone who is into gourmet coffee should avoid them but many Americans do not care about that so that is why they are so popular.
Most Americans do not love McDonald's because they think they have the best burgers. They love that it is fast and good. It used to be really cheap but it is not cheap like before.
Most Americans do not own a gun but most gun owners usually own at least 2. Some own 10 or more.
Some Americans have gone hunting or to shooting ranges since before we left the British empire. I doubt they had shooting ranges in those days but people would shoot at targets to practice obviously.
Many Americans would be cool with or not care about guns being outlawed though. It is a controversial issue.
The police own a lot of guns yes. They have to own a lot of guns. It would be suicidal not to in some situations.
#1. Hunting
#2. Self defense
#3. Shooting range / target practice
#4. fear of the government take them away
#5. collectors / gun nuts
Not necessarily in this order though.
There is so many fast food places because it so profitable. Many fast food places also close but if you own one that is profitable in my country you can make a small fortune.
There is people that bought a McDonald's and have made millions in profits off what they first paid.
I can't even imagine that there is no paid vacation or parental leave for both parents. This is horrific :/
the Scapegoat ,, Why i should pay you as employer for your vacation ?? Are you paying for mine vacation ? Do you really care if i even have a vacation ?? If you do not want to work , go on government subsidies and take as much of free time as you want to .
if in your country companies are forced to pay you for vacation , than they will just pay you LESS or minimum to compensate for lost time .
@@martinko4086 You should pay because its normal thing to do. For example, its standard in Europe. You can see payed holiday days also as a Bonus. You worked whole year hard and it's fair to have some free days payed. And if you as a employer can't pay it, than you're a bad employer. German workers cannot imagine working without payed holidays or without payed sick leaves. In Germany minimum wage is 12 Euro per hour and normally its always more like above 14 per hour and we can hear that in US is just 7,25 Dollars. That minimum is also for McDonald's. Nevertheless Germany is very successful eventhough employer must pay all these costs for their workers.
It mean that they can pay and they don't mind because its part of culture and care for workers. While on the other side co called "best" and "richest" country in the world wont eventhough they can.
@@bosanskislavonac There is a big difference between paid vacation time by law and BONUS given by company for good work as appreciation.
German workers cannot imagine something behind NAZI and Communist brainwash. These two idiotic ideologies made more damage in the world and you Germans still do not get it "" TO KEEP YOUR GOVERNMENT " out of MY own business!!
I do not get it how you can believe your PROPAGANDA that USA have in ALL country $ 7.25/ minimum wage ?? I live in SAN Francisco California and minimum is $16.50/hour , recently i did visit state Michigan and there is $16 / hour . If you want to compare your "Germany " GDP of $ 4.8 trillion with 82 million people to California GDP of $ 3.6 trillion with 40 million people you can clearly see that your " Germany " is behind California . YOU dig up some lowest state with $ 7.25 /hour in the USA / country of 50 states / and compare it to your Germany . HOW stupid !!
That is what i call German anti American PROPAGANDA!
it is the same argument like if i will pick up some state in the Europe, like Albania and said that ALL EUROPE is like that . What are you trying to say with your "minimum wage " rhetoric ?? that you CARE ?? You do not care about MY BUSINESS and my prosperity . STOP EXPLOITING GERMAN business with your STUPID anti business law !!
I as an owner of MY business, i am NOT obligated to give a job to you or your unions .That is the freedom, that is MY RIGHTS i have with my money and YOU do not have it.
I’ve owned a business in Australia and we of course paid vacation leave, maternity leave, all that leave. Honestly I never thought of it as anything other than a business cost. Businesses are profitable because this is the standard nationally. Workers can afford to live good lives, buy more products and services, hence businesses earn more revenue.
It’s an unfortunate mindset for the US that all of this great stuff kills businesses and economies. It’s a lie perpetrated by the rich and it’s eaten up by the very people who would benefit from change.
But I do think it will never change. To many Americans won’t allow it to change.
@@xscapeartistry5332 YOU " owned "business in Australia. So, what happen since you do not own it anymore .
How many employees did you have and what kind of business it WAS ??
I laughed when you thought your employer was nice because you get 2 weeks parental leave. 😂
I think that video is little bit confusing. Parental leave is usually for mother to take care about child and it is considered as "full-time job". Father can take some short holidays to help her in the beggining but it is not mandatory in many countries and in many others it is much shorter time than mentioned in video. For example:
Denmark (2weeks), Norway (10 weeks), France (2weeks), Lithuania (4weeks), United Kingdom (2weeks), Germany (0weeks), Netherland (1week), Italy (1week)
So yes, It is terrible that mother get notning in US. But the fact, that he (as the father) is getting 2 weeks is quite good. He would get nothing in Germany or Slovakia and just few years ago in our country (Czechia)
@@krobotak In Slovakia father gets 6 months of paternity leave, which he can take anytime until the child reaches 3 years. They get paid as per law.
In Germany the father can stay at home, too if he wants to! You can get "Elterngeld" in this time!
@@krobotak usually parental leave it's for both parents. So it applies to the father too
@@krobotak yeah no I had to look into it again because you brought my country into it and here a dad can get up to 12 months paid parental leave if he wants it and the mother would rather work. It depends on the couple and their decisions also there are different kinds of perm/leave that can be taken. Father's leave that a father can take can be upwards of 31 weeks as mentioned if he is to look after the child, but if it's just a leave to be with mom before and after birth that's called caring leave and only last four weeks. It depends on the situation
in Australia friends of mine used to steal the young workers from MACCA'S because they were so well trained and mostly good workers, it is not a dead end job here , it is a very good start for kids starting out
It is a dead end job. Only kids under 17 will do it.
When I went to the US I was surprised at the amount of older workers at Mac Donald’s compared to Australia. Mac Donald’s, subway, etc are good starting points for kids to get experience in the workforce and your correct that it sits well on their resume for when they move on, as employers recognise the value of their work ethic having worked in these areas.
@@robynjefferson4779 It's a "dead end" job only in the USA. And that is not true at all about kids under 17 will do it. I started working there when I was 18, now I am an overnight manager just a year later and getting close to having enough money to get my first house (which I will rent out), just from saving from Maccas in the past year and a bit. I also saved up for a car (second hand but has treated me very well when going on camping and fishing trips). After I get a house, I will be saving up for a boat, then another house. Unlike America, it is actually possible to save your money in Australia.
@@robynjefferson4779 no it's not, not here in Australia, their Management training scheme is brilliant and the benefits that go with it, and are highly regarded on their resume! It's a very good start out job for students and they're great at working around their workers uni times.
@@robynjefferson4779 i think you are wrong Robyn ,i have seen many young kids move onto very good corporate jobs ,we all have to start somewhere ,and a willingness to work is a good start
In the UK when a younger person has worked at McD's on their CV and was a team leader it is viewed as a positive for the training they give.
Yeah, but as adults their farmers also believed brexit would increase their profit by 100x but now they just moan that they're not part of the EU rail system plan...
If American people actually realised how other Countries support their citizens for a better life they would never believe it . Australia even had a baby bonus scheme , imagine not worrying about healthcare and being given thousands to birth a baby.
I wasn't eligible🤣
Same in Russia 👍🏻 4k and 3k $ for 1st and 2nd child
You wil never convince an american that capitalism epitomises greed. They're taught to look after number one, and fk everyone else.
This is a common thing. In France, it reached such extremes that a few decades ago, some families actually made countless children to earn their livelihood... lol. Just a rapid maths... If you don't work and have 3 children... You get (in euros)... 500E as minimum revenue. +408 euros for having kids without having a job + 308E for the kids themselves (the more they are, the more it goes up) + 2720E for the kids birth (3X907E) + 250E as various bonuses + 120E as special support + 400E for each kid to prepare for school (textbooks and such, school itself being free) + 60E (other special bonuses) + up to 270E for paying the rent (you can actually rent little appartments for this amount). There is even a bonus if your kid dies... 1000E to 2000E... You can actually make a living by just making kids....
@@nox8730 in Russia this omission is solved. You can't spend this money whatever you want. You can only use it for 3 cases:
1) improvement of living conditions (usually a mortgage)
2) child's education
3) mother's pension
Now there are discussions about added one more case - buying a car if you have already own any accomodation.
So this money will only help those who really want children. And this is a good support for young families, cause they usually need a place to live, the mosts spend money buying flats/houses. Others will not be able to profit from it, I think.
And anyway having kids nowadays is really expensive
Come on America treat your people better it's bloody 2022 for God sake. ✌
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Ikr. You’d think it was 1822 not 2022. Just proves to me how blessed we are here.
@@julzhunt7790
Blessed we are mate.
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Americans don’t want any changes and no evolving.
Congratulations on the upcoming birth of your baby Ryal.
As a kid in the UK, I wanted nothing more than to move to the US. You can't believe how much I'm glad I didn't
I saw a video saying pubs all over England are closing because of the rise in costs of owning the pub or buying anything from it.
@@logicaldebateUSA We are defnifitely experiencing the loss of 'the local'. As it's becoming much harder for individuals to compete against the bigger pub chains.
You can get a pint of lager at a Weatherspoons for under two pounds, yet closer to the city center, you'd pay nearer five pounds for the same pint. But Oxford is quite expensive anyways.
@@Daxsymbiote The point is if your min wage was lower or there was no min wage at all that could have saved some of those pubs from going out of business.
The video I saw said some of them were even over 100 years old and closed.
@@logicaldebateUSA people in Europe live healthier, happier and literally own homes not like usa so cry
@@BaBaDoo0 It is obviously way more affordable to buy a home in USA compared to many countries in Europe or Canada too.
You went out of your way just to cry to me.
I spent 6 months in America in 2013 (I'm Australian). A fellow I met went for an interview for the managers position at an auto parts store. He told me the wage was going to be $6-something/hour. I thought he was joking, laughed and told him my daughter got $15/hour when she was 14 years old working in a lunch bar!
It is obviously cheaper to live in some parts of USA. A brand new Mcdonald's worker makes different money all over the country.
Getting luxury benefits as a low skilled worker is not logical that businesses agree to pay that in Australia. I understand they are still profitable if they stay but it does not change that.
From my American point of view it would be like someone in another country goes to jail but they a low level Mcdonald's employee so Mcdonald's bails them out of jail and pays them money per day for the crime they did.
If it was the head manager and the crime was not serious that would be one thing but if it was a low level employee it would be insanity to do that.
Paid leave for vacations, maternity and paternity is just ridiculous when they can instantly replace you for someone around as good as you are.
In USA you need actual skills to be treated that well where they can't or do not want to replace you.
@@logicaldebateUSA I am not sure if I understood you right: But you did say "If someone is willing to work for basically nothing, then it is obviously your right to exploit them". Yes?
@@MauMik What you call exploiting is an opinion.
It is like if there was a law in Australia where all business owners had to bail all their employees out of jail for a crime the employee did and pay them money each day while they are in jail.
It would seem silly and absurd that a business would be required to pay that when it has nothing to do with them. Just like if you have a baby in Australia that has nothing to do with the company and does not help them at all.
I would say these are exploiting a business owner.
@@logicaldebateUSAPaid leave is not ridiculous & the business can't just replace you..we have unions & the Fair Work Commission that protect workers, besides it's illegal & we could sue for unfair dismissal. Perhaps you see it as ‘ridiculous’ because you're conditioned to the American way of treating some workers appallingly & they somehow don't deserve to be treated fairly. I suppose you don't believe in universal free health care either. Why are some Americans so insular & believe their country is the ‘greatest’ when it's clearly not, don't many of you travel overseas & experience the difference?
@@Pen12160 "Paid leave is not ridiculous & the business can't just replace you..we have unions & the Fair Work Commission that protect workers, besides it's illegal & we could sue for unfair dismissal."
A business normally does not benefit at all by a female employee having a child. It is not logical for a business to want to pay for that unless that employee means the world to them. Most women are not that valuable to a company. Tons of men wouldn't be either.
The vast majority of women it would be insane to pay them not to work when you could just hire another worker who was around as good who would work.
That you have silly laws/unions defending this practice is still silly.
"Perhaps you see it as ‘ridiculous’ because you're conditioned to the American way of treating some workers appallingly & they somehow don't deserve to be treated fairly"
Having a kid so you can get paid not to work is certainly not fair to the employer.
Just like having a kid you can't afford and expecting tax payers or the government to pay for it is not fair to them either.
"I suppose you don't believe in universal free health care either."
Free healthcare is not actually free. Someone is paying for it. Were you ever taught that? Countries that have free healthcare are generally more expensive to buy homes there than USA and the rents are higher too. Compare USA to Canada in these ways.
I remember meeting an American while travelling in 2017. She asked me how long i was away from the U.K for and I said a month. She was shocked but i didn't understand why at the time. She had 4 days and all i thought was "why would you bother only going on a 4 day holiday?"
here`s a tip for American`s who live inside their greatness bubble , you live to work while the rest of us in the western world work to live . here in Australia we treat everyone the same wether your a cleaner or a doctor . min wage in Australia $812 .60 au a week , you get 4 weeks paid holiday pay and sometimes more a year, about 8-10 paid public holidays a year , about 10 paid sickies a year , on top of that your boss pays into your superannuation about 10 % of what you earn . about 18 weeks paid maternity leave , in Europe heaps more . why do you think 80 % of us Aussies live near the coastline , bloody great beaches 😉
This also ties into the arguments about birth control. Given the choice, the majority if Americans wouldn't be having many, if any children with low wages and working conditions as they are. So, big business taps into minority prejudices about birth control (incl abortion) and actively mandates against it to keep you poor and producing new worker drones. They are also behind the dumbing down of the American education system, to keep you ignorant of what they are doing.
The none developed nation b/rates are going through the roof, I can't mention actual nations or numbers because they don't like this topic talked about.
While the west b/r in the past few decades have been well below replacement numbers, you might ask yourself, how then is populations growing in the west? because we are being replaced by those from none western nations.
I read a scholarly article years ago that the education system was designed to produce production workers for the industrial age and industry wants to keep it that way. It hadn't been updated to produce workers for the information age.
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There is a suggestion of bigotry there, accidental, I'm sure.
There are three main reasons the birth rate in "none developed" nations -
a/ a basic lack of birth control which means women can't prevent undesired pregnancies
b/ compounded by a lack of other "entertainment' at night than sex for the menfolks
c/ exasperated by the slowly improving sanitary and health services that have significantly reduced the child mortality rates.
Why the concern about a possibly dis-proportionate number coming from countries that are "non- western" (I assume that's what you meant to say) nations? Part of that may be because they still see the USoA as offering opportunities, whereas much of the traditional "western" population base sees the USoA as being a morally, ethically and financially corrupt country further compromised by religious zealotry, All of which are destroying the country from within in direct counterpoint to the very values the country was founded on.
The irony is that the very people preaching about RINOs are the very "RINOs" who are the problem with the Republican party, and corrupting them from within, as they look for personal power and wealth at the cost of the very people voting for them losing out.
@@gordowg1wg145 You're cogitating my apparent bigotry while you are subtlety blaming Christianity as the root cause of all evil in the west.
That in itself is bigotry. A perfect case of gaslighting. Maybe that religion you're blaming is not Christianity? have you ever thought about that? maybe its Judaism?
You can conjecture your hypothesis in ref to b/r in the west all day long, the fact remains, Caucasians have one one to two generations left before they do not exist anymore anywhere outside of Israel.
@@danielsimpson6885
Besides an inability to read, and understand, what I wrote and apparently preferring to conflate two different things, you seem rather* ignorant of the rest of the world?
*being polite - you're actually VERY ignorant.
In Poland there is "maternity leave" and "parental leave" which are not the same thought they are often treated as one. "Maternity leave" is 20 weeks for the mother and the first 14 weeks are mandatory, which means she can't choose NOT to take it. After that, if a mother decides to go back to work, she can cede the remaining 6 weeks on the father. She can cede less, but it has to be 20 weeks in total. For example she can take 14 mandatory weeks and cede 6, or she can take 18 weeks and cede 2 on the father, it doesn't matter as long as it's 20. Thing is that both can't use the "maternity leave" at the same time. However there is also "parental leave" for the mother which is additional 32 weeks, after those 20 weeks have passed, which makes up to 52 weeks in total.
Moreover there is also a sort of "maternity leave" for mothers in case of a miscarriage, which is 8 weeks and they are entitled to addition compensation on top of that. The name is a bit unfortunate in this case, as you are not really taking care of the child, but that's the official definition. It is designed to help mother get back to mental and physical balance after such a tragic event.
Yeah abput the miscarriage thing u said, i think thats the reason behind maternity leave (vs parental leave). Maternity leave od for the MOTHER (to recover). Parental leave is for the child
In germany we have very simular rules.
We get maternity leave in Australia to.
Forcing a company to give that would just encourage them to avoid hiring women.
@@logicaldebateUSA what an American thing to say.
as an Australian i am so proud of my country i wouldn't leave to go overseas to live the lifestyle is fantastic you can walk down the main street without being harassed people are friendly WE DRIVE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD lol and i am happy to be born and bread living in this great country of ours
Fair dinkum mate.
Also, you use the metric system, the better system
And I second those sentiments...GOD HAS BLESSED AUSTRALIA.❤️❤️❤️
I am American.
You still have homeless Australians.
The new face of homelessness in Australia | Four Corners
In my country the poorest of the poor could get a job at McDonald's even at "slave wages" that so many of you feel we are exploited and be able to buy land that is in the middle of nowhere that you can own fully for $5000 or less.
It will not have water or power but you still can.
Happiest Countries in the World 2023
Australia 7.16
USA 6.98
That is almost no difference.
We can walk to the shopping centres without being shot!!! Our kids can go to skill without fear of being slaughtered.. We can go for a bush walk without fear of being eaten alive by a Grizzly bear the list is endless...there is NO comparison between America and Australia. Get the facts straight.
I'm from the UK, and the UK actually compares pretty unfavourably to most other countries in Europe. but...the minimum wage is £9.50 an hour. We don't get free soda refills in restaurants, but that means the waiters get paid more and don't rely on tips. It is rare to work for more than one company (and many companies actually require you to get permission to take a second job..). 20+ days annual leave plus bank holidays (8 more) are the norm; in my last job before retirement I was entitled to 25 but I could sacrifice salary to "buy" 10 more days of leave...and still got 8 days of bank holidays. You get your holiday entitlement on day one of a job, so if after 3 months you want to take 50% of your annual leave, that's fine. You are encouraged to take leave to recharge your batteries and make you a better employee when you come back. Sick leave does NOT come out of annual leave, and if you are sick on holiday, you get your holiday leave back! The NHS pays for all hospital treatment, ambulances, pre and post operative and natal care etc. Prescriptions for ANY drugs are limted to around £10 each - and you can buy an "annual" package making them cheaper! Over 60s, pregnant women, and children pay no prescription charges. A cynic might say that our attitude is that's its better to treat people and get them back on their feet, earning money and paying taxes....I think any job over 16 hours requires benefits pro rata to those offered full time employment. 48 hours average is the maximum legal limit for working. You get 52 weeks off as maternity leave if you have a baby (and of course the NHS pays for all pre and post natal care costs and your time in hospital....), and most employers pay you a substantial portion of your wages during this time. By the way, this one year entitlement is not dependent on how long you have worked for a company. You cannot be fired for having a baby, and your job must be available to you at the end of the maternity leave. You cannot be fired arbitrarily from your job, and must be paid redundancy pay of your job is no longer required.
As someone else has said, the US is a third world country in a Gucci belt.....
@@DEMONIKMINION not ALL, only first time parents ( loophole: if the father already has children from previous then regardless of being a first time mother you're not entitled )
@@sianhanks9755 that's not true. Anyone having a baby is entitled to it but you may have to meet a criteria. We had one offered 6 months ago, neither me or the wife work, we have a disabled son with autism,brain damage and learning difficulties. We declined the offer. Crazy to turn down free £500 but it happens lol. As it happens we've had a few other kids and we didn't need the money. I'm not one for taking more than I need. I hate not working, not having any financial stability. Gonna have to get some skills and work from home. So I can do both jobs at once.
Same rules in germany here too, and that is GOOD. USA is a shithouse to their own people!!
Exactly! For me I could take up to a year mat leave, first 3 months 100% pay, 2nd 3 months 50% pay from employer and 50%from the government, last 6 months just the 50% from the government. I also get 41 days holiday a year (that includes the bank holiday) and because my mother reduced her work hours to help me with childcare she got payment towards her Taxes. Paid sick leave for up to a year. Carers leave for unexpected time off to deal with dependants. And the UK isn’t the best place in the world to work but anywhere is better than the US!
The EU don’t have any laws for a minimum wage, which is why a number of EU countries are so very poorly paid & why so many of them head over here. We had workers rights long before the EU even existed.
15:36 The way you said "2 weeks" almost made my cry. Seriously, mate. I am crying.
Here in the UK parents have up to 39 weeks of Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP) and up to 52 weeks of Statutory Maternity Leave (split into 26 weeks of "Ordinary Leave" and 26 weeks of "Additional Leave". It implies that your employer cannot provide you with less than 26 weeks of Maternity Leave). What's more, parents can take up to 11 weeks of Leave BEFORE the delivery day (for preps). Plus some good companies have a "company maternity scheme", so they offer an extended SMP or time of Leave, so it might be longer than 1 year. You can apply for SPM and SPL even if you adopt a child. Also, there is Statutory Shared Parental Pay (ShPP) and Leave, but both parents have to be officially employed.
In practice, people follow the next scheme. Mother applies for Maternity Allowance (maternity leave/pay) and father applies for Shared Parental Leave/Pay, so the family will get a bit more money and can enjoy raising their newborn :)
For example, almost the same goes for Russia. They called it a decret (from Latin decretum - which means "decision" or "decree"). Parents are entitled to 70 days (10 weeks) of Statutory Maternity Leave before giving birth and 70 days after, for a total of 140 days (20 weeks). Plus there is an "extended time" mentioned in the law. Depending on how the baby delivery procedure was, parents might receive up to 195 days of total leave (instead of 140). In this scenario, SMP covers the entire amount of time (both Ordinary Leave and Extended Leave). And moms allowed to apply for am EXTRA time up to 3 years after the delivery day, but 3*365 - 140 (or 195) = extra 955 (900) days will not be paid off. But only 1 parent can apply for "decretum", the other has to work normally. Usually, moms take SPM/SPL +Extra time (up to 3 years) and work as freelancers from home while father works at a regular job. So, family will get more money.
In New Zealand, every full-time employee is entitled to at least 4 weeks paid vacation per year. This doesn’t include public holidays (11 days per year) or sick leave entitlements.
12 days per year, (provincial anniversary days count too).
Same in UK 🇬🇧
Same in Oz - 20 days annual, all public holidays and 10 personal/sick leave
we also have an overinflated housing market created by choking supply with over regulation causing all the wealth to be moved to the banks who are happy to invent money on paper and councils who invest in ego projects instead of infrustructure and benefit from the inflated house prices because their taxes are connected to property value. But thats a separate issue.
That sounds like a dream come true for me in the States. I get one week (5 business days so not even full 7 days) and that was only after I had been with the company 1 year but it's not paid for. I also don't have paid sick days either and if I take more then 2 days for illness I need a doctors note to take more meaning I need to see one or I won't have a job to come back to. But doctors are expensive and if your already getting no pay for the time your off it's really hard to afford so most employees just push through being sick because they have to. Covid has literally been the only exception with that at my job, in the beginning you got 2 weeks off if you tested positive (paid time) then it when to 1 week (paid) and now it's 3 days (unpaid). We also only get off for Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day for national holiday at my job, 2 days out of the year that's it (this is typical of food service and retail jobs here). I also currently don't have health insurance because jobs if they even offer it have a one time a year sign up time for health issuance (it's the same with the Affordable Care Act insurance through government one time per year in November is sign up) which is November as well but I got hired in end of January meaning I've had no insurance this whole time until I sign up in November which it will be a few weeks after that when I can actually use it because I have to wait to get the insurance card in the mail, so end of December or beginning of January so basically I will have been without health insurance for a year. But I still have prescription meds I have to pay for every month out of pocket probably $80 a month for 2 medications. The sad part about it is most of us who dream of moving elsewhere only daydream about it because we just don't see how it's feasibly possible to do so, I can't even begin to imagen how a low skilled worker like myself would have a shot at an opportunity or how they exist and we're just too busy working to keep a roof over our heads.
What I found interesting is the differing view on benefits. "In america benefits are seen as costs" Here in germany worker benefits count as an investment and an asset for the company, they even are used to tip the scale when deciding for a new job.
Im Hungarian Irish we are getting a 3 year maternity/paternity leave(payed by the employer) same with holidays 21 payed days a year and payed sick leave in Hungary same in Ireland just shorter (6 month) maternity leave. The older I’m getting the more grateful I am I was born in Europe. The “American dream” fog just disappeared from my head a long time ago since I’m grown up. Congratulations to your baby. Enjoy every moment.
I had to laugh when I was in England in a cafe and an American tried to order a coffee from his table shouting “hey give me a coffee Will ya” the girl at the counter just said “you have to come to the counter to order please” ha ha things are different in other places, it’s of great benefit to travel. I live in Australia now but grew up in England, spent some time in USA years ago, cultural differences can still catch me out here even after thirty years, congrats on the baby, (the days are long but the years are short) 👍
There is many coffee shops in USA where you only order from the counter and you pick it up yourself.
Do you order from the counter and they bring it to your table at the place you both were at?
That sort of behavior typically occurs in 'diner' settings, and is part of that culture. Not knowing this, I agree it could be quite a shock.
One word I always find annoying in these discussions is 'benefits' in the context of the US economy. The fact that access to dysfunctional healthcare is considered a benefit is a statement that a nation has given up on the idea of being any kind of civilisation, and is in fact actively intent on being some sort of neo-feudal plutocracy. With corporations taking the place of feudal lords, and politics as some sort of gladiatorial combat to keep the masses distracted and provide the illusion of an ability to make a difference.
This is an excellent analogy.
Since it's annoying talking within the US context, in what country's situation are you talking about?
@@rightlyso8507 I'm a Kiwi living in Australia. Getting a prescription filled costs me about $6. A visit to A&E costs me the fuel for my car and parking costs.
Well, have a got a nice quote for you: “The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons.”
correct
Broke my wrist in Australia.
Shitting myself because it was a big job putting it back together.
Best hand and wrist surgeon in the world(honestly) fixed my wrist in His own private wee hospital.
Since then,I've had two heart attacks and surgery,fallen off shit had my bones been put together.
Australian hospital shit is fucking awesome.
Haven't played a penny.
Never even mentioned the way your treated after the brilliant paramedics take you to hospital.
In Australia from 1 July 2022, the national minimum wage is $21.38 per hour or $812.60 per 38 hour week (before tax). Casual employees covered by the national minimum wage also get at least a 25% casual loading.
And that's MINIMUM wage for permanent Full Time and Part Time.. Benefits of Superannuation, Annual Leave, loading etc
Casual pays 25% more than the minimum but you don't reap the other benefits
25% extra but no other benefits at all. Any time off … no pay for you. Even when you have forced time off, which sucks. My work shuts down over Xmas and new year so you better start saving after tax time lol
@@bigoz1977 I don't understand. Why didn't you get a job while you were off? You knew what was coming, right??
@@bigoz1977 Only in America. Not in the rest of rhe world which will pay you annual leave as required by law, even if working a casual job.
Most companies pays above the award wage salary. Only small businesses and usually cafes and supermarkets workers that payed the minimum wage.
Most Australians are on between $27/$43 an hour mark on average. I'm on $44 an hour just as an unloader for a transport company. Depends where you work some people ar on only $27.90 an hour. Some people on $29 an hour others on $33 or $36 an hour. The basic is usually above the award wage for most people. Funny thing is the average Jo still can't buy a home. Houses and interests rates have gotten to expensive. $550.000 for an average size home its pathetic and plain greedy
I once asked an American, who had taken 5 days of vacation in a whole year, if he had a plaque above the entrance of his office that said "arbeit macht frei "
@@chronicreader no
Yanks can barely speak English so that was pointless
''Even nations we have bombed into oblivion" my god, that struck me just right.
It made me laugh because it is such a raw truth
The US honestly sounds like hell on earth when compared to most European countries. The medical insurance situation alone is mind-melting.
Too many Americans have never travelled outside the U.S.
When most are trying to just survive..that is probably true
True for the general workforce who cannot save to travel and average around two weeks of leave. They tend to make up for some of this when they retire.
Sadly that might be becoz the don't have any holiday leave.
My classmate is American. She complained how her brother and his family can’t afford to visit her here in Europe. Then she told me that instead they were Going on a 17k trip to Disneyland. And to me this is really weird. Why would you spend so much money on a fake country that is celebrating a company when you could travel to a whole new real continent. Flights from Miami to Frankfurt, booked in advance for 2 adults, a child and a toddler: 4-5k, staying with my classmate (enough space): for free and the rest 10-13k are enough to travel a little bit through Europe, stay in not luxury but perfectly fine hotels, eat out, enjoy some ice cream. Maybe safe some money by having sandwiches/Picknicks for lunch, avoid tourist traps and compare prices. But they would be able to travel through a few countries and see my classmate.
Instead they go to Disneyland where they will also have fun but won’t learn anything new or gain new perspectives.
We can't afford to!Also are not allowed the time off work.
When my daughter was born (a medically difficult one for both mother and child.), I told the company (a major American bank) that I was taking 2 weeks off from my senior network engineering work in order to take care of them. They were stunned and did not even respond when I properly handed off my projects and took off. After a week I was called and was fired on the spot. No reason given other than that my employment was 'at will' and that they did not need any justification for firing me. I wasn't without work for more than a week, but from there on negotiated my leave types, compensations and durations of such in writing prior to accepting, which was seen as highly unusual.
On minimum/living wage in USA: I'll see conservative talking points that these are "stepping stone" jobs, they shouldn't pay living wage, that people doing these should work two jobs etc. (they should work 60-70+ hour weeks)
I've always wondered: What if every worker in USA left these "stepping stone" jobs? They never seem to address the fact they need/want these many millions of workers, and don't want them to actually live.
That is literally what is happening now: fast foods and other retail businesses are understaffed and have hire signs plastered all over offering increased pay and benefits, but workers are not interested. The recent divisiveness and proliferation of "Karens" is destroying customer service in the US and that's a good thing. The American customer needs to learn to respect worker and employer must understand that their workers are human being not subservient robot.
The funny thing is how Americans are all for low pay in restaurants with tips but never use the same arguments for fast food. There itsjust low pay nobody ever tips at fast food places.
@@Sayitlikitiz101 this is very true but most conservatives and businesses are spinning it as people are just lazy and just don't want to work anymore or that they are sitting home collecting welfare which couldn't be further from the truth right now (and for anyone who has had to jump through hoops to get assistance with paying bills in a conservative state when you've lost a job knows it's really very hard to get. The state will literally give you the run around for months not answering their phones etc meanwhile your raking up credit card debt etc just trying not to get evicted from your apartment) Most have decided to treat jobs like employers have been treating them for decades now, replaceable. Because most companies don't provide long term benefits for staying with a company for 30+ years and many are laidoff or quit because they are treated poorly now more people don't look at staying or will shop around for better pay or if not better pay then a job that don't treat them horrible.
@@snafufubar Tipped employees are allowed to be paid below miniumum wage(2.13 is the federal min wage for tipped workers, varies by state but my state is $2.13). This is why we have to tip as the employers are too cheap to even pay minimum wage in some states and we have to make up for it.
The people who call these jobs "stepping stone" jobs are wistfully remembering a time when anyone armed with a high school diploma could go get a factory job and support a family on a single income. Those days are gone, as are those factories. Ironically, other than government jobs (which they also hate), the only hourly jobs remaining in rural America are restaurant and retail. If you're not self-employed or don't have the capital to get skilled trade, you're pretty much screwed.
Also, if everyone were to follow conservative advice and get an engineering degree instead of something in the humanities, most engineers would end up working outside their field. Some at McDonald's. And I can't stress this enough: the guy who cleans the restaurant bathroom is as important to me personally as any engineer will ever be. I acknowledge that there should be some income inequality between him and the engineer, because the bar to entry for restaurant bathroom cleaning is lower, but he should be afforded more dignity and yes income than conservatives would ever grant.
Hey !! You seem to like us in Australia. We get 4 weeks paid annual leave, paid public holidays, superannuation, paid maternity and paternity leave, bereavement leave, caregivers leave, paid sick leave, free health care....ever thought about moving 😁😁😁 By the way, our Government has just brought in 10 days paid domestic violence leave for victims of domestic violence and their families. 👏👏👏👏👏
I am American.
"There are more homeless in Australia than ‘ever before’: Paul Murray"
Forcing companies to pay a "living wage" directly contributes to land owners raising the rents.
When min wage gets raised in USA it is like the signal for businesses and real estate owners to raise the cost of food, rent and property.
A poor Australian could move here / USA and start a business where they would not have had a similar opportunity in yours because it is more expensive to pay workers there.
I do not think forcing all business owners to be rich is a good idea for an economy based on that.
You forgot to mention long service leave (3 months)
@@HelmutEvrard You're right, I did. 😁
@@logicaldebateUSA Really? Wonder why it is then that so many migrants and refugees who come to Australia with nothing start and continue very successful businesses AND pay their staff enough money to live on.
@@elizabeth10392 For every 1 American who moves to Australia over 3 Australians move to USA.
I even watched a doc on an Australian man who moved to USA to start a business and he became a millionaire and moved back to Australia after.
A poor migrant and refugee, both of our countries can be a huge upgrade.
I am not saying nobody has done it in Australia, I am just saying it is obviously harder.
I watched a few mini docs on poor Australian business owners and it sounds way harder there in general.
As an Australian working in local government, I’m also entitled to 13 weeks long service leave (fully paid) after 10 years service, but could also claim it pro rata after 7 years. After the ten years I then get 1.3 weeks of long service leave added to my entitlement every year. This is in addition to my 4 weeks of annual (vacation) leave, 10 days of sick leave per year (which accumulates if not fully accessed), 4 days of family leave, 4 days of Covid leave….and the list goes on. Americans are truly being fooled into believing the mighty USofA is the best place on earth. Nowhere is perfect but the land of Oz is pretty darned good!
Most people don't understand why we (Australians) have long service leave- it's original purpose is obsolete, but is so ingrained in out leave entitlements it would be hard to remove. But a large part of the workforce don't stay in jobs 7+ years to see that extra leave.
Also government jobs offer better remuneration than many other jobs without it being justified
@Aussie Pom nice deal, but that also goes to show why people are angry about how the government operates, perks in places that aren't justified, while other areas/jobs miss out on resources or appropriate pay, or job security. A bit more consistency is needed.
It funny I open a business in the US in the late 2000’s and I live in Australia so I treat my employees by Australia standard. So for me, I pay my employees $22 an hour and they work 38 hours a week which is a full-time job. I give them holiday pay and maternity leave and they are paid fortnightly instead of a monthly wage
The first few years Mcdonalds was in Denmark, they tried to use the US business model, where they paid low wages, and refused to sign a workers agreement with the unions. But since there are strong unions in the country, McD was hit with blokade, and denial of service from other sectors. This forced McD to sign the agreement with the restaurant union, if they wanted to do business here.
Learn from Denmark, why and how Unions are important for every human in a country. Bless Denmark!❤️❤️❤️
Denmark seems to get everything right.
wallmart try to do that in germany that didnt end well
@@randijohansen5683 There is obviously a downside to unions also if you take the blinders off.
@@logicaldebateUSA NO
I live in Australia and I've recently spent 3 weeks away for work. Our boss told us to not skip a meal and put it all on the company card. His exact words were "you guys are there to make money not spend it" accommodation paid for with an indoor heated pool and spa. 3 hot meals a day, working away from home allowance ect ect.
And as for the hours worked I was working 38 standard hours and had atleast 5-10 hours overtime. $30 an hour standard rate and $45 an hour overtime
I actually gasped to hear that minimum wage, even though I knew it wasn't that great, but it's shocking. And on top of that you have no universal health care and other benefits
And on top of that, that minimum wage does not apply for a number of service jobs where tipping is the norm such as waiters. The minimum can go as low as 3$ an hour “+tips”. That’s why it’s best to consider tipping part of the price in the US.
@@Ekitchi0 Yeah, and what's worse, prices are still regular but on top of that you have to basically pay the staff's wages while the employer ways them slaves wages and doesn't have to bother with benefits and paying tax on the tip money. As a result the staff as to kiss ass to the max and is pretty much at the mercy of the customer's mood. It's inhumane.
@@Ekitchi0 Most of you people making comments like this have never been in the U.S. 3$+ tips? What in the world are you talking about that.
@@guszverev7408 I’ve lived in the US for a year and my mom has been living there for over 10 years…Your assumption is wrong.
Technically the federal minimum wage for tipped workers is $2.13 an hour but if tips don’t cover the rest up to the regular minimum wage of $7.25 then the employer has to pay the difference.
States also have their own minimum wage laws and the most favourable between state and federal applies. So while some states have better minimum wages i don’t think it’s the case in all States.
I guess you live in a state with better minimum wage laws and wrongly assumed it’s the same in all of the US?
@@Ekitchi0 I’ve lived in both Georgia and Louisiana. A waiter getting paid anything less then or equal to 7.25$ is unheard of. If inflation increases so do salaries. Most places start at 10 or 11$
I had to work at our US office and it turned out to be longer than first anticipated - 8 months. I remember being asked not to tell any of my US co-workers that I had 30 days paid holiday or any perks. They also used to stay late every night. It was soon apparent that most could have gone home much earlier but the culture was to show dedication and you weren't going to get anywhere in the Company if you left on time or only did a bit of unpaid work.
the part I dont get is all of these benefits around the world werent given to employees, they were fought for by employees, unions, people striking, politicians, governments.
But in the US unionising, collective bargaining, striking etc all seem to be frowned upon. Like there seems to be little to no protections and even if there was there seems to be a belief that these things are socialism or communism and that means they are bad.
The problem with the US workers is that they see themselves as "temporarily unsuccesfful milionaires'' and not as workers.They believe that with hard work, bit of luck and a lot of ''bow down'' to the employee they will succeed.
@@strofimios yeah, thats why unemployed, poor and working class idiots got all bent out of shape over a tax that was aimed at people earning 400k.
They think in a few short years they will be earning that much and it will impact them
problem is with your election system in general. To win an election you need obscene sums of money that are collected from rich donors. Guess whom politicians need to work to pay the debt? President is elected not by people but by some random dudes bought by the same rich donors. WHAT? To my europeans eyes this system seems as much democratic as serving the russian oligarchs, just a tad more graceful. People like Bernie should've been a whole party, even if it's a small one, not the single soul in a universe. It is a 3rd decade of XXI century and Bernie is STILL seen like a nutcase by the majority of people.
They don’t know what the difference is between Socialism and Communism haven’t got a clue let them get on thinking that they are the best country in the world
Very good point.
I am a retired 71 yr old Australian. I don't own my home, I rent. I worked for most of my life and my superannuation paid for my re-location to where I now live. Now I live on my Age Pension, which is enough for me to have small holidays, and live quite well. I worked as a shop assistant for most of my working life and now my life is quite comfortable. I would never wish to live any where else. When I see what happens in America, I am so sad for all of those poor workers. I have government assisted health care, and help in my home (for duties I cannot do anymore), and my life is good.
The sky is not falling in the US. The overwhelming majority of Americans live sufficiently comfortable middle to upper class lives.
@@shannaesq Yeah right..🙄😂🇬🇧
@@shannaesq you might need to get out more. It was hard for me to accept just how many of us live in struggle, go to sleep hungry, or go bankrupt trying to pay medical bills. Because it’s the US, that can’t happen in such a great country right? Too many of us don’t realize we’re just one bad health diagnosis from poverty.
@@shannaesq As an American economist I can tell you for certain that is not true. Your circle is too small and your education lacking if you think this.
@@udubeats4543 you just couldn't address the substance of the issue could you? As an economist, you are well equipped to discuss data. If you have a case, then state your case with said data. But you just couldn't resist a personal dig. It's truly amazing how the digital water cooler often brings out the worst in people. You stay classy.
I worked for an Australian airline until the pandemic for 30 years. Because we did shift work we got five weeks annual leave per year which included a 17.5% bonus or the equivalent shift penalties for the time off. Whichever was the highest rate. We worked a 40 hour week but got paid for 38 hours which gave us a day off every month fully paid. Most shifts we worked we got paid a shift allowance ranging from 15% to 100% depending on time and day. Every 10 years with the same employer we receive three months paid leave known as long service leave.
As I applied for and received redundancy during the pandemic I received a redundancy payment of 102 weeks pay. Now retired and loving it. You don’t get that in America.
My husband gets family compassion leave whenever he needs. My daughter has cerebral palsy and I have a chronic illness, so my husband has to take us to the city for medical appts, which is an hour and a half away. All we have to do is get a medical certificate from the people we see and the time off is not taken from his sick leave or holidays. We probably use this at least 8 times a year
Ryan, it’s an important service you, and other similar TH-cam channels are providing for Americans, to help with their awareness. I’m an Australian, and we already know how extremely lucky we are. We may not have some of the amazing benefits provided by some countries such as Norway, but we still have enough for a work/life balance. We don’t need to be brainwashed over here.
You all just had people being forced against their will into in "wellness camps" with armed guards because they wouldnt do what the government wanted then to do (little history lesson consentratiin camps in nazi germany were forst known as "wellness camps" before they became known as "re-education camps" and then "concentration camps")
You have better weather than Norway
I'm from Norway and I am well aware of how good we have it here
I still feel Australians need to look else where and not just America. We constantly compare ourselves to American and look good because of it. If we start comparing more with Scandinavian labour and welfare policies we’d see how much we can improve.
That minimum wage is about £5. That's absolutely insane, A business owner would go to prison if he was found to be paying that to employees in this country (England, UK).
It's about half of our minimum wage and totally unliveable in any country!
That's absolutely disgusting. Mu daughter is 16 and at her first job gets £7 an hours, a portion of tips and paid holiday
We have 12€ minimum paid per hour.
Even my 1st year apprentices fresh from school get £18,500 a year which is about $12 an hour or £9.50 ish an hour.
Yes less than half the 🇦🇺 minimum wage for full time worker too and even further behind what we pay casuals.
I have dual nationality, american and british, stayed in britain most of my life then came over to america, one thing I was surprised about was the vacation time, doing part time in UK (I was doing about 20 hours a week) I was given 7 days off of paid leave after six months, whereas the job I'm at now, working full time (40hrs) after six months I've only earned 3 days off.
This America a third world country in a gucci belt
Consider moving back to the UK...
The fact American industries don't offer paid vacations is a new thing starting sometime in the late 1980s. That was the same time they moved away from offering retirement and going to 401Ks. My dad worked at a steel mill. He was a supervisor. He earned about $35K+ in the late 70s and early 80s. In 1979 when I graduated high school, he got the last bonus as the industries was in trouble. He got 10K as a bonus. The mill gave all of it's employees bonuses. I worked there right out of high school and I got 2 weeks paid vacation a year starting off. The longer you worked, the more paid vacation you got each year. My dad retired in 1984 after 47 years. The last 7 years he was getting 13 weeks paid vacation a year. I worked at Sears starting in 1987 and got 2 weeks starting, after 5 years I was getting 3 weeks and was about to start getting 4 weeks when I quit to start my own business. At the steel mill we got sick days. and I had sick days at Sears.
70's only 10 days paid vacation
Aussie here. I’ve been with my current employer for four years now and barely any leave. That’s by choice and the leave stacks so now I’ve around three months total annual leave to use. Had two weeks this year of it and followed that up by getting pretty unwell (not Covid!). My boss gave me two weeks sick leave, paid without needing a medical certificate since she’d seen how sick I was and received approval from her boss. She preferred that I was able function sooner rather than working at a minimal rate for longer.
You're employers nice! From my experince most will start to ask you to cash out leave if you don't take it as it costs them money to be holding leave and also if you leave your job they have to pay you out more
yeah i dont take much leave either. Just had 480 hours paid out instead for a nice little bonus
That's interesting, because by law in the UK holiday entitlement must be taken in the year from one April to the next April. It can't be carried over.
Yeah, I’m going to start getting it cashed out in small amounts. They’d never approve that much leave taken in one hit so it’s getting wasted in one respect.
Used to be ok to hold over leave in the UK. I worked for the Post Office back in the late 70’s and I held over leave so I could take a month off to go to Jamaica. That’d be 1978!
The most absurd thing is linking health care to the place someone is employed. If you're too sick to work then you can loose your health cover! And calling them "benefits" rather than "entitlements" reflects the attitude about health care in the US.
Agreed. What a selfish, horrific system. Its so sad. This crap needs to BE GONE.
@@eurekaelephant2714 - How is it any more selfish and horrific than a system where a massive chunk of your pay is taken whether you want it to be or not, and then rationed out to those who the government decide are worthy of receiving it?
22 and have treatable leukemia? You get coverage.
86 and have treatable leukemia? You're allowed to expire.
At least under the US system it's in YOUR control to negotiate for better coverage with your employer, and if you're able, to pay whatever it costs to get the best treatment available. That's why lots of Canadians come here rather than wait months or possibly years for scans that would tell them their cancer would have been treatable if the government hadn't made them wait. Sure, it costs more, but you wait maybe an hour or two, not months.
@@phydeux how ironic. Because I am going through cancer investigations right now. Im in Australia. I was categorised with urgency, and so far have had the best care and not paid a single cent. Every single gynacologist appointment has been free, my cat scan was free, every blood test free, i have been referred to a specialist team in the top hospital, for free, my surgery will be free, my transport to the capital city will be free. I mean, I mean no disrespect but for Aussies, it really is like watching people who are being exploited defend the same system that exploits them. Let me tell you, you dont even notice that a small portion of your tax money is going towards the health care of everyone. It isnt the big drama or headache or rip off that you have been taught to believe it is. I have no doubt that some people come to America for care, because you guys do have cutting edge medicine. The reason that people wait, is not due to the fact that tax money is removed from them. Its because the successive governments in power are kinda corrupt and like to fund big corporations these days, rather than put more money in health. So its the govt attitude, not the principles of socialised health care that are causing the wait times. It would be consistently like this for years if it was the fault of socialised health care, but the fact is, this has only been a very recent problem. I for one, am extremely grateful that I am not living in America right now. I would honestly be f**ked, and would not be able to afford most treatments for what I am going through. And what I am going through is bad enough on its own! My family would basically have to watch me die! And i cannot tell you how truly f**ked up and inhumane that truly is!!!!
Entitlements is a bad word according to republicans. They're trying to get rid of social security and Medicare because they are Entitlements.
I find it amazing how differently US companies act overseas. 40 years ago a friend of mine lost his baby at one week old. The company he worked for (a US computer company) sent him and his wife to NZ for a month all expenses paid. This isn't typical but it doesn't sound like it would happen in the US branch of that company.
Thank you th-cam.com/users/shortskgdHvjgtsOo
I have never worked in US but I would contend that many US businesses do treat their workers well and can be generous. I suspect that problem is in situations where you have large public corporations that focus exclusively on making maximum returns for shareholders, with incentivised management that is rewarded with huge bonuses for big fat profits on the annual balance sheet.
more like write them up for taking unauthorised time off to attend funeral
my friend is currently working in the IT sector for an american company here in Croatia... since they have offices in seveal countries they have to stick to the laws in the particular country the workers live in.
So my friend doesnt necessarily make more money than the people based in the US but she has all the rights that our croatian and EU laws put in place.
So I would say the US companies are somewhat forced to do some things....BUT also maybe do more because if they want to keep the foreigners to work for them they have to offer something in addition for sticking to the laws.
@@MrDomingo55 The thing is, the divide between "good jobs" and "bad jobs" is growing deeper and meaner. Low-pay jobs often don't even get sick pay or paid time off, while fancier jobs have benefits like free legal consulting, free gourmet food, etc. (not to mention better standard benefits).
Greetings, I worked in Denmark for a few years. You get your 5 weeks of vacation and depending on your union contract most have a 6th week. As for paid Holidays, you automatically get 10 days and depending on the contract up to 4 extra days. This is both for hourly/ salaried employees as well as management.
Hearing all of this really make me appreciate Jamaica. I'm a civil servant because of the stability and benefits they offer. Mi wi tan a mi yard
Just remember this is not the companies doing this out of the kindness of their hearts, they are doing this because we have laws to protect workers.
When a company leaves because they are not profitable enough how does that protect workers?
@@logicaldebateUSA Workers aren't slaves to make a busiyand it's owner rich
If you business isn't profitable without ripping off workers then your business is crap fella.
Jeez this isn't difficult
@@pcat1378 You got to be kidding me. An American min wage worker is not a slave and they voluntarily agree to those wages.
Starting a small business can actually help an employee even if the pay is low for them and can help your country and yourself.
You could be much higher ranking employee working for a small business owner that pays min wage in USA much easier compared to most European countries obviously.
Clearly being an employee is more valued in Europe over being your own boss with laws like that.
@@pcat1378 Plus I forgot to say a profitable company can still decide to move out of your country or any country if they feel they can make more in another one and that does not help employees in your country.
@@logicaldebateUSA They are a slave when minimum wage doesn't even allow they to pay rent and food for themselves you idiot
When you said you would be offered 2 weeks of parental leave, I thought 'Is that all?'
In the UK, you often see temporary jobs offered, for up to a year, to cover maternity leave, as the mother is offered that amount of paid time off.
yeah but he's not the mother though is he
@@ajrwilde14 he doesn't need to be because he gets two weeks anyway and he can also either take all his wife's maternity leave (1 year) and she will return to work, he stays at home to look after the baby, or they can share it if they want to. There's flexibility for you!
Paying paternity leave does not help a company profit in general so why should they have to pay for that?
I could write volumes (as could many!) here, but as a dual US-Aussie citizen (came 2 Sydney wen we were 2) the ONLY TIME i use my passport is to enter & leave the states (to visit family, who have always struggled). Australia’s damn expensive, & im also from a blessed family, but i worked 2 jobs thru uni to get a great job….now, in aug 2023, the US is finally REALLY crumbling. My flag & dad’s Marine Corp plaque will remain on my wall…..& inside my ❤️ hurts for u guys
That's right , Ryan , my father , who was a blue collar worker his entire life , was able to buy a brand new , four bedroom brick and tile house and land package , while my mother raised the kids. To be fair , later on my mum went back to work , when we were around 10 years old , but the mortgage was agreed on while we were a single income family . Brand new house , one blue collar income , two cars, in ground swimming pool , annual vacation etc. lets see someone do that these days .
In Australia, working for MacDonalds a minimum of 3 months is seen as a very good thing as they teach young people about OH&S, working as part of a team, coming to work on time, good work ethic, the right way to approach management, time management. All these are skills highly sought-after in any job.
Havent even mentioned the skills to cook and serve the burger
In Australia Four weeks annual leave and Leave loading is an extra payment on top of your annual leave pay. It is usually 17.5% of your normal pay plus we have 13 public holidays with pay. Peace out
Leave loading is on its way out though, unfortunately
He & other Americans minds would be totally blown if you explained about long service leave also
Victoria got rid of leave loading more than 20 years ago
@@poinky8 if this goes through Fair Work it only applies to termination payments.
@@WatchingDude no it didn’t.
TBH if you work in a McDonald's in Australia and show initiative they will train you to become a manager and it can actually help you for future jobs. I know people who worked at Macca's as teenagers here in Australia that are now area managers for other companies and they tribute it to the experience they got from Macca's
I’m Australian, I received 12 weeks paid maternity leave when my daughter was born….in 1976. I was entitled to it as a government employee. It took until this century for maternity leave to be available to everyone and not just some but nevertheless we’ve had it for nearly 50 years.
The Aussie min wage was increased by 5% couple weeks ago, about an extra $40 a week. 👍🏻
1969,in England,i finished school,started work,and from day one got 4 weeks paid holiday(+ 8 public holiday days),rising to 6 weeks per annum,as my career progressed.
I am in tears, I have never felt so sorry for the American people as I do now. I watched your video on how much it cost for a mother to give birth to her child thousands of dollars!!!.....$40 to hold them after(WTF)!!!! Then this one on work laws....I have no words. You don't get to spend time with your new born, how is this freedom? I had a year when my children were born, I got to watch them grow with full pay....and my company was happy for me when it happened! Also when they were born.....2 kids with intensive care and several weeks of critical care...it cost me $0. They also had several years of aftercare and specialists again $0. Really tears rolling down my cheek.....:(
The moment when Ryan grins happily after confiding he's got 2 weeks parental leave, bucking the trend for most Americans.
Quickly followed by the look on his face when he realises 2 weeks is absolutely nothing compared to what most other people on the planet get for parental leave.
Funny how the phrase 'people should band together and fight the system' is always uttered by those who have absolutely no intention of doing so because they're slightly better off than most others.
13:50 That chart is missing the UK's 8 public holidays which, at least in the positions I've held, have been paid days off, with the option of earning extra by working them.
Yes, I was looking if someone already said anything about this. I wondered if they didn't include bank holidays for the UK because either in some positions they are not paid (eg if it isn't legal requirement that bank holidays be paid), or whether it was to do with the fact that I think that the 4 constituent countries of the UK have some different bank holidays? Scotland I think has 1 or 2 more (or different) bank holidays than England etc, so putting them on the chart for 'UK' would be inaccurate perhaps? Also with the devolved parliaments it could be that there isn't a universal UK legal requirement for paid bank holidays? You have the day off still or a day off in lieu, but maybe not paid?
The UK has statutory of 20 days paid holiday plus bank Holidays which averages out to 28 which was correctly listed in the graph. Nursing manager here so sadly I know this inside out lol
"you're free to do exactly what you're told to do" The American mantra. Good luck!
Whoa whaaa?? I just got the part where you commented on "fairness." Never thought about it before but I think you just summed-up the very different approaches by Canada and the US.
"Life is not 'fair,' so you shouldn't be expected to be treated 'fairly.'" That seems very American to me for some reason. It reflects the air I feel there--everyone is an autonomous individual, competitive consumer, we are each in our own race, just don't interfere with each other and we will be fine.
But I think the Canadian mindset and that of the more social democracies is, "life is not fair, so what do we need to do make it (more) fair?"
I’m not going to lie, I really felt for you watching that. You looked quite upset by the end of it. I holidayed in Texas and loved it there, however was shocked at what people told us especially the ‘you don’t work you don’t eat’ we heard that said a lot. I’m UK and work part time and still get 28 days paid holiday from day 1 starting with the company. We get paid sick day after our third day ill. Some jobs even pay your travel time and mileage to work. In my experience anyone who works for their money here is generally respected regardless of the job they hold.