ALL MAX MARTIN #1 Hit Songs have 5 Things in Common / Popular Music 2020

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  • @conniek.carvalho9943
    @conniek.carvalho9943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    One of my favorite MM tricks that wasn't mentioned here is his bridges tend to never introduce new lyrics but instead use lyrics already used in the song (verse/chorus) with a completely different melody and harmonic structure around it. It reminds me that your melodies/lyrics should be good enough to be warped into drastically different possibilities.

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Great point! His bridge sections are always crazy cool. Thanks for the comment

    • @henrywayne5724
      @henrywayne5724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Except Taylor's bridges

    • @619rasta
      @619rasta ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His bridges are everything

    • @Polyfusia
      @Polyfusia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Max's lyrics are indistinguishable from parody. Good enough to be warped into different possibilities? They sound like someone brain damaged wrote them. I wouldn't wipe my ass with his absurd lyrics.

  • @airodonack
    @airodonack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    [1:55] Statistical analysis of Max's songs
    [3:02] Chorus starts early
    [3:45] Easy to understand lyrics
    [6:44] Simple harmonic structures, 3-4 chords, no more than 6
    [6:53] Short, unique intros
    [7:38] Develops slowly, introduces one new element at a time

    • @menaceone509
      @menaceone509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bruh thank you!!!!

    • @peitertje12
      @peitertje12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

    • @aknezonthebeat9271
      @aknezonthebeat9271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What type of analysis does the letter do in point number 2? and with what software does it do it?

    • @mariasoleada2337
      @mariasoleada2337 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      on iPad Air 2 impossible to use the page you created for us to insert Name, Email name, the Captcha seems to be missing data for one thing, so no access to he templates

    • @mackpunch368
      @mackpunch368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep industry standard

  • @JonnyKaine
    @JonnyKaine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    Yes. the sound of the lyrics is way more important than the actual words. I think this is actually true for almost all listeners, they just don't realize it.

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      haha yes, This is a great point!

    • @jhonnycultura4455
      @jhonnycultura4455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      eod nhoj i know her becuase of The struts

    • @jonathanvelez4182
      @jonathanvelez4182 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      False look at the beatles

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@jonathanvelez4182 It's the same for the Beatles aswell

    • @Lochness19
      @Lochness19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I semi agree. I think a lot of the time we pay attention to the way the song sounds rather than the actual words, so in that case the actual words don't matter as much. However, often that's because we're usually not listening too closely, and aren't really latching onto the song that much. We just like how it sounds in the background, which is often good enough for radio DJs, but not enough to act upon our appreciation of the song the way the artist would like (ie buy the song, check out the rest of the album, buy concert tickets). But if we do happen to pay closer attention to the actual words, and they happen to be well put together, I think that can leave a strongest impression.

  • @fetamean
    @fetamean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    He also made blinding lights. That's 23. He's the best.

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      dude he's Due for a sequel. Also Gotta talk about my man Serban Ghenea for mixing ALL these tunes. Living Legend.

    • @Qandeel
      @Qandeel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      and Save your tears, numbers increasing

    • @flmkrp2486
      @flmkrp2486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      guys how tf is max doing this. hes literally unstoppable

    • @mackpunch368
      @mackpunch368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmmm, I’m sorry but I’m more an original fan: Bands like TOOL are amazing at this!!

    • @rockingbeat
      @rockingbeat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Take My Breath by The Weeknd looks like another

  • @orlandomiotto7545
    @orlandomiotto7545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm not an English native speaker and I TOTALLY get the point here.
    I spent most of my childhood listening to Martin's music, and his lyrics always felt somewhat easy to me. Many Katy Perry's songs helped me a lot in learning English because of that.

    • @LordFingers1
      @LordFingers1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      katy perry and bonnie mckee write perrys lyrics, not max martin

  • @ElmoSyr
    @ElmoSyr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    The list starts at 3:01 ...

  • @DrGodinho
    @DrGodinho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    this video needs a sequel. we need more max martin analysis

  • @the_oslovian
    @the_oslovian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Since you've been gone, Kelly Clarkson, by Max has been my favorite pop song for years. There he uses all the tricks in the book, it is so well arranged that it makes me get goose bumps and cry! 😊

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I also love that he's not really a guitar player, and the intro bit he wrote for that is so simple but awesome. Using an instrument that unfamiliar can be a great way to create something simple that we might otherwise overthink on our principal instrument. Thanks for watching :)

    • @tonyofarrell2775
      @tonyofarrell2775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes ,kelly realized she needed pro song writers

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tonyofarrell2775 Fun Fact: MXM was contracted to write at least one song for the winner of American Idol so they would have at least a decent single to market.

    • @GerardoVazquezCP
      @GerardoVazquezCP ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LearnAudioEngineering It's no wonder her career took off after her time with american idol, she worked with one of the best song writers in the world.

    • @GerardoVazquezCP
      @GerardoVazquezCP ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LearnAudioEngineering It's a great reminder that we use instruments to create music not to just show technique. Zakk Wylde took the same approach as Max in songwriting where he simplified everything in his guitar playing, only to produce some amazing albums for Ozzy Osbourne.

  • @sexalexa
    @sexalexa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    Shoutout mariah carey for 17 self written #1s, fourth on that list

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I know right? way to go!

    • @Solo-vh9fm
      @Solo-vh9fm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What an icon

    • @schibtbielschxx9178
      @schibtbielschxx9178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Kid Poker woah, um, no?

    • @SimonTebbenhamMusic
      @SimonTebbenhamMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Is that actually true though? 100% self written - I don't actually know, but my doubt radar is blipping like mad!

    • @peterparker8907
      @peterparker8907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She has 18 now!!!

  • @djWOOF
    @djWOOF 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    5 things you have in common with Max Martin.
    Beard, mustache, long hair, black shirt, hand movements

  • @ringoze
    @ringoze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Max Martin needs to write your intro song.

  • @lmao2351
    @lmao2351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Swedish songwriters and producers are generally extremely good at what they do. Sweden dominates the pop charts and is the 2nd largest music exporter in the world.

    • @bhoopesh.p.4645
      @bhoopesh.p.4645 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spotify

    • @lmao2351
      @lmao2351 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bhoopesh.p.4645 Soundcloud

    • @vjkwaeguiv12
      @vjkwaeguiv12 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tot is Japan?

    • @marcusmiro7481
      @marcusmiro7481 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would expand that to Scandinavian countries in general, even if Sweden is like 90% of that. Lots of good music comes from Norway though. Bertine Zetlitz is awesome.

  • @lukewilliams7020
    @lukewilliams7020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Dude just to say there were a lot of silly negative comments talking about how long you took to get to the point. It’s all subjective. For me you produced an excellent and insightful video. Intelligent and well scripted. Great work my friend.

    • @TheWormzerjr
      @TheWormzerjr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      this is constructive criticism. STFU and stop ass kissing

    • @nigefal
      @nigefal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True, but Max Martin would have got to the point in at least under a minute!

    • @bw2937
      @bw2937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nigefal Hahaha

  • @Ricky-cw9iq
    @Ricky-cw9iq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Okay Hozier

  • @dreammfyre
    @dreammfyre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    He’s back, baby! “Blinding Light” by The Weeknd.

    • @diegogervasoni3432
      @diegogervasoni3432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also thank u next was by max martin...

    • @nizaceleste6359
      @nizaceleste6359 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diegogervasoni3432 noup it was produced by other people

    • @diegogervasoni3432
      @diegogervasoni3432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nizaceleste6359 nu... not the single maybe... but much of the other songs are made by him (Bloodline, Bad idea, Break up with your g...)

    • @Rockesb888
      @Rockesb888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The chorus starts after the first minute, he broke the formula.

    • @bw2937
      @bw2937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rockesb888 hahaha yeah

  • @Millennial_Mike
    @Millennial_Mike หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's a total genius... his best pop hits have a genuine emotive quality, often in the orchestration / voicings of string parts etc.
    'Show me the meaning of Being Lonely' is an absolute masterpiece.

  • @katariina7697
    @katariina7697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find the idea of thinking of lyrics as sounds very inspiring and liberating.

  • @torarinvik4920
    @torarinvik4920 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Most pop songs have around 120 bpm and around 3.30 in length. Songs used to be shorter when Vinyl records fit less music on them.

    • @bw2937
      @bw2937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Since your comment songs have got a bit shorter again. Seems to be the trend at the moment like back in the 50s.

  • @torarinvik4920
    @torarinvik4920 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Im from Norway. And Scandinavians understand English very well. But it is a known fact that the melody and the sound of the lyrics are much more important. With the exception of songs like James Blunt - You're beautiful and other songs where the story is the main point.

  • @AaronBarbosa
    @AaronBarbosa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dude, ya ya, it was a lot of whatever for the first 3 minutes BUT...
    THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST HELPFUL VIDEOS ON MODERN SONGWRITING IVE EVER SEEN FOR FREE. Period.

  • @Sool101
    @Sool101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a kid (Dutch), I listened to 2 Live Crew. Not a single clue what they were on about, and neither did my mother...

  • @aquaevitae
    @aquaevitae 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The most part of all the hit songs through the decades are quite simple in basic structure, except very few exception, for example The Queens Bohemian Rhapsody which actually beak the rule and is very complicated song containing vast variety of different elements, and yet one of the biggest hit track ever...

  • @marcusmiro7481
    @marcusmiro7481 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding song intros, he very specifically likes to do intros featuring the most prominent melodic motif outside of the vocal melody, and usually this motif will have a vaguely dominant quality to it, featuring 5, b7, or 2. Something else I've noticed over the years is he neeeeeeeeeever adds accompaniment that outlines a basic triad. If a background element in a minor key song goes 5-1, you might expect b3 after that, but he will probably go to 2 instead. The man loves implying add(9) chords and the like with things like this.

  • @skemsen
    @skemsen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I get that this is a copy right issue, but it would help a lot if this could have been demonstrated with musical examples of what you're talking about. Just saying. But great analysis and video. Thanks.

    • @donm1719
      @donm1719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wat a redundant post lmao

  • @1029blue
    @1029blue 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't speak a lot of English when the Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears made it big, so I got the basic message but only realized much later how little sense lyrics like the ones for "I Want It That Way" make.

  • @remotegod255
    @remotegod255 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Simple lyrics with meaning are NOT easy to write. So many musicians who are not songwriters have so much hate for Max Martin, but since I've started songwriting in earnest, you realize what he does is not easy at all. Great video and breakdown!
    If you want to write high-charting Max-Martin-style Pop music, or make your music *more* pop-y, some of the tips from this video include: Get to the Chorus/Hook ASAP within 30-40 seconds; use a limited number of chords, e.g. 4-6 for the whole song; use SIMPLE lyrics with a CLEAR and DIRECT meaning; and focus on vocal MELODY and SOUND rather than the literary quality of the words. Introduce new musical layers one at a time, and keep them clearly distinctive from each other so they're easily heard and followed. Also, make the (short) intro an incredibly-distinctive calling card that announces exactly what song you're hearing within the first 2 seconds or less.
    Again, all solid tips to have available in your toolbox *even if* you don't want to sound anything like Max Martin.

    • @angelabowers8221
      @angelabowers8221 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're still on here, one of my fav song writing greats is David Linde. Do you think he did things the same way?

    • @carnifpsgod9383
      @carnifpsgod9383 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah so for mainstream it needs to be easy to follow, interesting and such, those details, if anyone could do it. Wouldnt be easy right, thats why Max Martin, RedOne and Shellbekk etc are fucking masterminds.

  • @woolrich020
    @woolrich020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool insights, thanks for your work

  • @Maximvx
    @Maximvx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My opinion is that a lot of MAX opinions stems from his friend/mentor Denniz Pop, who first and foremost was an excelent DJ that knew what kept people from leaving the dancfloor and go to the bar :-D

  • @DodaGarcia
    @DodaGarcia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another well-understood element of good songwriting that Max Martin employs consistently is contrast. There's always good contrast between the different sections of his songs, e.g. how in "Into You" the verses have long, sparse notes and the choruses have rapid-fire notes.
    "Into You" also shows beautifully the value of tension and release, in those line hooks that make us look forward to the next line ("Oh baby look what you started/The temperature's rising [in here]/Is this gonna happen". A lesser songwriter could have easily made it a stale song by going just "Oh baby look what you started/The tension is rising/Is this gonna happen", but that "in here" adds micro-tension to the line almost like the melodic version of a ride cymbal.

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm literally working on a video about contrast in mixing!!! Into You is one of my favourite MXM tunes! thanks for watching

  • @RZanja
    @RZanja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now, whenever I listed to a hit song, I appreciate the songwriter as well as the singer.

  • @christinedescollines113
    @christinedescollines113 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been referring to this video so much when I work on songs this last month or so. TY for your awesome data analysis skills and taking the time to make this for us :) Ever since I learned about Max being behind so many hits several years ago, I've been so inspired by his work when I songwrite and produce

  • @amarks4383
    @amarks4383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gold. Thank you for all the insight and time you put into this.

  • @Shevnation
    @Shevnation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Interesting... 30 to 40 seconds to the chorus? Most metal songs barely started the first verse.

    • @twanner_
      @twanner_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Opeth comes to mind

    • @MisterSemmelman
      @MisterSemmelman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Shev And that is why there are very few metal hit songs these days. I also prefer intros and more complex songs. But this video is about a whole different genre.

    • @Shevnation
      @Shevnation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MisterSemmelman Good point... Rock On!

    • @thesuncollective1475
      @thesuncollective1475 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tru..but he's talking about Pop songs I think...just write good songs I got long short intro's f**k that sh*t intro rule is BS

    • @nitroanilinmusic
      @nitroanilinmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@twanner_ well, when it comes to Opeth you can't really say there's even a chorus

  • @furryz666
    @furryz666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great stuff and a rare MM interview, helps to play an instrument your novice at for example my guitar songs are far to complex so I tend to overwrite and wind up in progressive metal land but on piano it’s simple and melodic, love this guy and his work and the language differences are immense and unintentionally experimental when it come the writing pop melodies I’ve learned much from similar study of his tunes and scored a few small successes based on things I’m hearing in this vid, nice job

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      glad to hear you enjoyed the interview! Composing on a new instrument is a huge game changer for sure.

  • @Achielezz
    @Achielezz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Listening to the sound of the words - theory is pretty accurate for me. I only have started to listen to lyrics at age 22 (this year) having listend to music all my life. With all the things going on, understanding a second language is pretty difficult. but also i never tried to understand, because its now what i was used to. So for the songs i appreciate and ave listened to for years, there is a whole new world now of connecting the lyrics to the music.
    Cool video, keep going man!

  • @Rnb24565
    @Rnb24565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    R.IP. Denniz Pop✌️

  • @shannonsx4143
    @shannonsx4143 ปีที่แล้ว

    great work, thank you !

  • @peteralmeida3612
    @peteralmeida3612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You sing the chorus of 'Show me the meaning' all over the full song nonstop and get to know what simplification means for Max Martin: Clever recycling! Never seen this outside him!

  • @schm4704
    @schm4704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I speak and read English quite fluently, but I admit that picking out the lyrics from a song is still hard for me to this day.

  • @TheOompahRoundabout
    @TheOompahRoundabout 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It also helps if you have mega famous artists releasing your songs!
    For sure, get to the hook, and make it catchy!
    The modern version of bubblegum pop! Make it fun! And sign up to the right publisher ! That, I think is even harder than writing the song. Haha. Great vid. 👍😄

    • @rdubb77
      @rdubb77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mega famous artists release his songs because he’s extremely good at writing pop songs, therefore mega famous artists want to record his songs.

  • @CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy
    @CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:13 - If these chord analyses are to be believed, that means most minor key hit pop songs are in harmonic minor, with the raised 7th, and thus the major V chord. This seems odd to me, as I was always under the impression that natural minor was most favored in pop writing. Although, according to your stats, the minor v chord is still used one third of the time, so that's still a lot.

  • @djvoid1
    @djvoid1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    His music irritates you in such a specific way, that you know he's a master of his craft

  • @camilonaconsueleheikkilins1400
    @camilonaconsueleheikkilins1400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He is talent. Every song who he's producing - awesome))

  • @theinfamousches1258
    @theinfamousches1258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Bruh....wtf are you people complaining about how long the damn video is?? The point of the video is about how Max Martin's stuff is super short --- that doesn't mean this video has to be super short. He explains some pretty important stuff before he gets into the list. It's not hard to click on the timeline and skip around if youre really that bothered by the length. Good video, dude. Very informative, Robert. Im beyond surprised at the structure of the song and the length of time given to the pre-chorus and chorus. Only 8 bars for the verses??? Wow. Great info!!

  • @EtheRenard
    @EtheRenard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the lyrics, that's totally right! I'm French, and even tho I knew basic English at 10, hearing "Baby", "Hit" and "Time" just hits the spike of energy of this song, because it's on a quarter note. Short words, you even get the point even if you're not speaking English: you know the song is talking to you.

  • @nicholasparis5281
    @nicholasparis5281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the Jingle! Very 80s flashback!

  • @Kian-rc7pr
    @Kian-rc7pr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For #5:
    The 'God Is A Woman' AND the 'Side To Side' choruses both start 1 second into the song...

    • @samantohermes4515
      @samantohermes4515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's because of Ilya or Savan Kotecha

  • @oc7445
    @oc7445 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your awesome dude! thanks for this amazing video

  • @mylivetubetv
    @mylivetubetv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I enjoy youtube and dislike negative comments. I appreciate your work. My note to you is that your video is verbose and while posting a video which is focused on the importance of being concise, this video is anything but that. You have excellent information which is produced well but it drags. I hope your next videos are shorter.... As you mention, we have short attention spans... the content repeats itself. This is an odd way to say great job but I want to also state what could strengthen your great work. Best wishes and I look forward to more from you!

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks for the feedback!

    • @thesuncollective1475
      @thesuncollective1475 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not think the video was too long I quite enjoyed it..Imagine you were at a TED lecture for 2 hours.haha!

    • @JoyChristos
      @JoyChristos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is great advice @mylivetube. @learnaudioengineering, please keep making videos!

    • @Mary1337
      @Mary1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disliking comments does ... nothing really.

    • @thundercuntinashoefullofpiss
      @thundercuntinashoefullofpiss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that has got 2 b the best way of telling someone they are long winded without insults :):) well done you

  • @Jibraan19
    @Jibraan19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This the first video I've watched from your channel - invaluable info as I am in the process of recording my first single "Baby Love".. thanks Brother and keep up the good work!

  • @ingrid_inthesky
    @ingrid_inthesky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't understand some terminology as I have not learned audio engineering but I do know how to read music and have played violin growing up - I notice the nuances.
    Basically, Max is creating variations. I could just tell from being a fan of BSB, Britney, N Sync, and Celine Dion growing up.
    You can hear the similarities particularly when there is an acoustic guitar involved. Songs also start off or contain _Dun dun dun dun-dun dun_
    Listen to Celine Dion's "That's The Way It Is" then Britney Spears' "I Will Be There" and notice the structure of the song and guitars. It's the same with BSB's "Don't Wanna Lose You Now" when the build-up begins. I love these songs and most of the older pop songs from Max and Rami and although the songs are variations and seemingly simplified, he is still a genius because that _is_ his formula. He should just own it.

  • @Lochness19
    @Lochness19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They actually read at a higher grade level than the text analysis software suggests. We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together actually reads at grade 5-6 when you add punctuation, which is not something that's part of the official song lyrics, but is conceptually still part of the lyrics based off how they're sung. That's still pretty low though, I did a similar check of Taylor Swift's songs with more elaborate lyrics and they read at high school, or even college level for some verses.

  • @olegoleg1838
    @olegoleg1838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Long story short - there is no secret, he’s just a genius making genius simple songs

  • @scarletcrusade8729
    @scarletcrusade8729 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is good work buddy. Data served raw but organized into a catchy show. You invested time and dedication, the typical kind of video i savor like a well prepared cook. This information will help people, so thank you man

  • @juliakoodziej1021
    @juliakoodziej1021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me, the sound of the words and the emotions are the most important because I often do not focus on the text but on the sound itself and this is what gives me the greatest listening pleasure

  • @BigCityPalooka
    @BigCityPalooka 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this! A pretty great job sifting through the data and finding common threads, and the templates and raw data are thoughtful, helpful additions. Thanks for devoting the thought to this and creating the video! That was generous of you. Cheers.

  • @Obabynation
    @Obabynation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It starts at 3:06 btw thanks I really enjoyed it : )

  • @shovalgilead3802
    @shovalgilead3802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an awesome video, also- as a non native English speaker i can verify that what he says is incredibly accurate

  • @titianarasputin
    @titianarasputin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    if you analyze paul and john's #1 hits, will they have similar features to max's?

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      there's asking the real questions!

    • @reineh3477
      @reineh3477 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you take their easy pop songs like "She loves you" and "Ticket to ride" I think so.

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@reineh3477 it's in progress, I appreciate the interest.

    • @silversauceran
      @silversauceran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no john and paul were much more complex and idiosyncratic and much less formulaic writers, that's why they are still the best

  • @Thomas-pv5dp
    @Thomas-pv5dp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    im glad i stumbled onto this page. Super informative and fun to watch man!

  • @onlinerecords
    @onlinerecords 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Interesting video, but don't agree that there is a shorter attention span now and that a chorus at 35-55 seconds is fast... The Beatles hit the chorus title hook IMMEDIATELY on All My Loving, She Loves You, Can't Buy Me Love, Help and many others!.

    • @jevonmcglory9281
      @jevonmcglory9281 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Beatles music Is old bro... were talking about new pop commercial music.

  • @TelemachusHeeler
    @TelemachusHeeler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this!

  • @Tazmanian_Ninja
    @Tazmanian_Ninja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a Dane (Denmark, the country just south of Sweden) I've wondered for years what it is that gives the Swedes that melodic pop talent thing. Because they really do have it going. Abba, Dennis Pop (Ace of Bass, Dr. Alban, etc), Roxette, Avicii, Eric Prydz (and the other two Swedish House Mafia guys), and many more. Danes are often more... ironic in the lyrics department, and often also more melancholic, sound-wise. Dunno why.
    Anyone who has a guess? What makes Swedes such pop music naturals?

    • @studiolivkba
      @studiolivkba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Cheer up, you have the epic pop masterpiece Barbie Girl!

    • @sara-stinabergstedt3019
      @sara-stinabergstedt3019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't know if it's this way in Denmark, but here in Sweden there's a big tradition with people singing in choirs. I've heard at least that it is unusually many in Sweden compared to other countries. Also there is music schools for kids in almost all larger cities in Sweden (Kulturskolan) that offers training for kids in different instruments. So basically I think there is a lot of options and quite common for Swedes even at a young age to start learning to play music, and perhaps that just continues and results in all this music. :)

  • @Cy4n1d3_13
    @Cy4n1d3_13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely LOVE that you mentioned KMFDM, Angst, Xtort and Nihil were my high school soundtrack

  • @ottodrone6173
    @ottodrone6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome research assignment. I've been writing songs for 35 years and if I may add, popularity has a lot to do with a songs success. I believe it to be the key element. If Max Martin released these songs himself under his own name, no one would hear them. There are thousands of great songwriters in their basements at the moment. If they had a chance to have Katy Perry do one song, and a K pop band with another and whoever the flavour of the week is, you have 3 potential #1 songs right there. Of course they have to have a good beat and melody, but to me, a popular artist is the key to great songwriting exposure.

    • @choutzuyu8915
      @choutzuyu8915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting how you mention kpop and there are rumors about Max Martin producing a song for the girl group TWICE

    • @electricpurple4112
      @electricpurple4112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A great song needs great marketing, but great marketing without a great song will do nothing. So yes, as with all things built to sell.. they still need to be dealt with professionally!

  • @sone.
    @sone. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If there's more videos like this. This just might be my new favorite channel! Great job!

  • @ethandrory1
    @ethandrory1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad your channel has grown man! Very great informative video!

  • @theodorleijonbergandreasse3228
    @theodorleijonbergandreasse3228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Before ya'll jerk yourselves to death over how modern music sucks, have you really given a listen to some of Martin's more standout hits? Baby one more time is really well composed. Shake It Off, Can't Feel My Face as well. Formulaic sure, but that's been around since the dawn of music.

    • @chazsmith20
      @chazsmith20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stop justifying it dude. The music just sucks like the culture that's consuming it.

    • @mattb9708
      @mattb9708 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      THESE KIDS TODAY

    • @PennyAfNorberg
      @PennyAfNorberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's my life bon jovi?

    • @ryanbent9368
      @ryanbent9368 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone should check Blinding Lights - The Weekend. He produced that one as well. The synth sounds in that track are grooving

  • @nicolalombardo8819
    @nicolalombardo8819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such an amazing video, thanks for sharing!

  • @blackiesheep3997
    @blackiesheep3997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think he made a pact with Lucifer

    • @bw2937
      @bw2937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

  • @agn855
    @agn855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most amazing German sound-alikes ...
    a) Snap's: "I've got the power" vs "Agathe Bauer"
    b) REM: "That's me in the corner ...." vs "Let's pee in the corner ..."
    c) Hot Chocolate: "I believe in miracles ..." vs "I believe in Mirko!"
    d) Eurythmics: "Sweet dreams are made of these" vs "Sweet dreams are made of cheese"

  • @ifiglidellefoglie2701
    @ifiglidellefoglie2701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If is so simple, when i ll see u at n 1 of billboard hot 100

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd need one helluva marketing budget :P

    • @wuguhuliajethanbubgokorahe3651
      @wuguhuliajethanbubgokorahe3651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LearnAudioEngineering it youre so sure that its just the budget... Go ahead buddy, get yourself a loan. Interest rates are as low as they will get. Look at it as an investment.

    • @NickChase
      @NickChase 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wuguhuliajethanbubgokorahe3651 Lol true. It's not that easy as people represent it. Max has connections in the industry and that means he will get a premium jobs, and he can block new upcoming producers from succeeding. That is not new in industry, Eminem done that to one reper that comment on his daughter look.

    • @josephstalin1815
      @josephstalin1815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NickChase when did eminem do that?

  • @emma_ametist
    @emma_ametist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, nice work! Thank you man!

  • @akymrinkovsky289
    @akymrinkovsky289 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1 5 6 4 => aka l-V-vi-VI. Love it

    • @thomyyyyyy
      @thomyyyyyy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Max martin has a surprisingly low amount of songs that use these chords, almost none of them actually

    • @VeronicaGorositoMusic
      @VeronicaGorositoMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      l-V-vi-IV

  • @jyoungswag
    @jyoungswag 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @NyazeVincent
    @NyazeVincent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You're out of focus, but the the video is a direct hit.

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha I've been working on the focus thing...
      Thanks for watching!

  • @Rah11Sin
    @Rah11Sin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Save Your Tears, 24th no. 1

  • @Lochness19
    @Lochness19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The lyrics aren't unintelligible... they're meant to be accessible to the majority of the population. Also throwing song lyrics into a "readability calculator" is rather unfair. First of all, they often interpret new lines as new sentences. However looking at 4:00 a lot of those lines aren't stand alone sentences but rather the sentences span across multiple lines, so just copy pasting the lyrics from genius or what not leads to the tool measure the sentences as much shorter than they actually are. That's a big problem because one of the main ways those tools measure readability is by looking at how long the sentences are. The other main way is syllable per words which is more fair.
    So if you convert "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" into sentence form, the grade level gets bumped up to a grade 6, which is just one grade below what I got for the passage of this video that talks about it. I think that makes sense, pop songs are meant to be understood on first listen by the average teenager (just like the same is true for TH-cam videos). That doesn't mean they're thoughtless, they can communicate interesting perspectives, use unique metaphors or a good sense of humour while working within those constraints.

  • @FedericoMaracaglia
    @FedericoMaracaglia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations! This is so much valuable, really high quality! 👍🏻😁

  • @jocke1972
    @jocke1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Most Swedes know English so I don´t think that´s a thing. Max's songs is all about melody, and that is deeply rooted in Swedish music. We grew up with a lot of American culture (there is a strong trans Atlantic bond, because 1/3 of the population emigrated to the US a 100 years ago) and I think it's the blend between these cultures that makes these songs stand out. Also, swedes are all about minimalism and this probably also have something to do with it. After all, it´s not just Max, there is a whole bunch of Swedish producers out there, and they pretty much dominate the Billboard, at any given time (and for the last 20 years).

    • @Mr_Boifriend
      @Mr_Boifriend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joakim yeah I’ve noticed Swedes seem to be better at writing pop songs than anyone else, ABBA, etc...

    • @tunestar
      @tunestar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roxette was also very catchy pop.

  • @brandonringo7459
    @brandonringo7459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is incredible. Thanks so much!

  • @Vertlain
    @Vertlain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing: productionwise most of these songs were totally IN YOUR FACE.

  • @vladiatormusic
    @vladiatormusic ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great analysis, thanks!

  • @tedb1015
    @tedb1015 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Cake by the Ocean was actually a bad translation of the drink "Sex on the Beach".

  • @johnmattan3273
    @johnmattan3273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Number One. All of these songs are *actually* composed by Max Martin. Betcha didn’t expect that!

  • @eyeque7
    @eyeque7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What these videos fail to mention is the artists singing style and tone... great voices are as rare as diamonds ..put an awesome artist on almost anything and your, what you assumed to be an average song, will sound amazing. Don’t be disheartened when your song sucks. Get Ariana Grande on it and watch it transform into a hit (assuming you’re melody and lyric is up to par). Max Martin has awesome voices on his beats.

  • @Thaerii
    @Thaerii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Per Gessle says the same thing about not being able to predict what song would be a huge hit, and that guy consistently pumped out hits in Swedish, then in English (four Billboard Hot 100 number ones), then in Swedish again.
    The difference between the two is that since Max Martin writes for others and have to collaborate a lot, he is kind of forced to keep up-to-date with modern pop music. People who only write for themselves don't.

  • @fasteddievh2072
    @fasteddievh2072 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So basically, “Don’t bore us. Get to the chorus.”

  • @Laurikoivisto
    @Laurikoivisto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    you should've cut the first 3:02

    • @Gyrbae
      @Gyrbae 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta hit the 10 minute mark to get that YT money.

    • @Tazmanian_Ninja
      @Tazmanian_Ninja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And you should seriously work on your attention span.

  • @simcHyt
    @simcHyt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel looks promising. Very cool stuff, keep it up!

  • @jamesdoctor8079
    @jamesdoctor8079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also, what program did you use to analyze the level readability of the lyrics?

  • @akymrinkovsky289
    @akymrinkovsky289 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your awesome

  • @elishagreymusic5006
    @elishagreymusic5006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a simple man, I subscribed because of the "Analysis Skit Please subscribe button" timestamp me to so nicely

  • @thesuncollective1475
    @thesuncollective1475 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kinda do all that..but no-one knows who I am...you need contacts! Contacts People

    • @VeronicaGorositoMusic
      @VeronicaGorositoMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely, talent + contacts + marketing, and it'll be no surprise that anyone makes enough money doing anything when these 3 things are working toghether.

  • @thesolipsismdilettante6498
    @thesolipsismdilettante6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:35 did you say "Obsermation" ? (Observation). Haha . I love your channel. Great work .

  • @nitroanilinmusic
    @nitroanilinmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Real challenge is finding 5 ways any two max martin songs are different

    • @jordanlevitt1638
      @jordanlevitt1638 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why fix something that ain't broke? Ofc he'll use the same formula

  • @chrisc6128
    @chrisc6128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The page to download the templates isn't working. Type in my details and click the button but nothing happens

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the message! email me and I'll send them over.
      robert at learn audio engineering dot com

  • @bacioglobal2200
    @bacioglobal2200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    He's written every song I can't bear to listen too. This is why these songs sound like cheap 90's Scandinavian pop songs.

  • @714FarLaneMusic
    @714FarLaneMusic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this - loved the video! Is there still a way to get those templates you made? The link didn't seem to be working for me (I realize you made this years ago)

    • @LearnAudioEngineering
      @LearnAudioEngineering  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi! please email me directly:
      robert at learn audio engineering dot com
      I'll send them over, thanks for your interest.

  • @Rezyon
    @Rezyon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hold it Against me isn’t in G-major, it’s in C-minor

    • @Rezyon
      @Rezyon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Last Friday Night isn’t in B-major, it’s in Eb-minor

    • @Rezyon
      @Rezyon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But Bad Blood is in G-major also. You might have to re-look at the keys