This is all new stuff for me as I'm not much of an outdoors man, but gradually I am pushing myself and really enjoy your videos. You have a great waynof explaining things.
Being doing this for quite some time and I took an Intro to astronomy class, and it made it more interesting. I enjoy night hiking and there is a horseshoe shaped loop trail around a lake located out in the forest at about 7500 feet that is one of my favorites. Trail is well defined and mostly level and with several open areas with very good night sky views.
This was quite interesting and informative. Upon seeing the big Stanley flask (thermos) pulled from his rucksack, I knew Wayne was a man after my heart. ☕
I'm a new subscriber, but I've been binge watching your content. I need a refresher for using a compass and map since I haven't used those skills much since my Boy Scout days. Your channel has been really helpful and I just wanted to say thank you for the content. One thing I envy you for is the landscape you get to navigate in. Not only is it beautiful, but the history in those hills is truly incredible. Having said that, I was hoping I might talk you into a video on navigating tips for the less inspiring terrain. I live in Florida and although there are many things that make Florida beautiful and unique, it's not exactly easy to navigate in. For the most part because we have little elevation changes. It's very very flat terrain and dense sub-tropical forest. I was wondering if you had some tips and tricks for navigating in very flat terrain and what your approach might be. It's difficult to do anything other than leap frog from tree to tree and handrails can be few other than streams, lakes, and roads. Swamp land can change very quickly in only days or weeks depending on the rainfall so even maps which show swamp land to your east might be under your feet during the summer. Maybe there's not some secret knowledge to be had, but I do wonder if there are some guidelines or tips that might help.
This reminded me of someone 294 years ago Calibration checks were made using a using a star his window edge and a neighbours chimney stack Harrison clockmaker 1730 the well known ones at H1 2 3 and the H4 - Star transit exactly 3 minutes, 56 seconds (of solar time) earlier than the previous night. John Harrisons story is interesting and a bit sad but it did have a happy ending. see book by Dava Sobel's Longitude In 1720 he made a wooden clock that is still working - turret clock at Brocklesby Park, North Lincolnshire
The sun, and stars, rise in the east and set in the west. This can help you remember that if the star is rising (going up) you are looking east. If it is setting (going down) you are looking west. And I can always imagine looking north and seeing a star rising just a little to the east of the North Pole, move left as it comes up and then goes down. So rightwards movement must be south. If you have trouble imagining this, find a time lapse video of the stars moving while looking north and I think you'll get it. They all sort of rotate around a point from right to left as the earth rotates. Another technique that I use is to look at the moon, if it's visible and isn't full. Crescent is ideal. If you know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west and you know if it's more or less morning or evening and you know that the sun is illuminating the lit side of the moon then you know where the sun is, as in which horizon it just went down or is coming up. Thanks for another great video!
"Observing the lit shape on the moon and deducing where the sun is" is a technique that I am not seeing covered very often. I think I actually had to come up with that on my own.
On patrol, I would sit in the jungle watching stars cross over a hole on the canopy. Stay sitting in the same spot for about 15 mins. Then put a stick on the ground pointing N
LURD NESW Left Up Right Down North East South West Earth rotates to the East, so the Eastern night sky appears to move Up. With the rotation away from the West that night sky appears to move Down.
It's for confirmation purposes. This would be helpful in some areas where you may want to distinguish from a stationary light... like in the Alps or mountains where a mountain hut light can look like a star in the distance (especially from a valley or lower position), or a distant light on power towers in the desert, etc. Happy Trails! 🇺🇸 🏕 🌲
The way you explained it actually gives you quite low accuracy. (Which I think you tried to express at 8:02.) And "only being able to distinguish the 8 directions on a compass rose" might even be too generous. If you're at 55° north, then the celestial equator rises to 35° above the horizon in the south. And stars on that celestial equator also rise/set exactly in the east/west. That means that in order to go through those three points in a circle, they have to rise and set at a 55° angle from purely vertical (the exact same as your latitude). If you're in the UK and a star very close to the horizon moves up and right, then that's actually east. And if the star that's close to the horizon moves down and left, it's actually west. If your 3-dimensional imagination is good enough that you can visualize star movements on a celestial sphere that's moving around you on a slanted axis, then you can correct for this problem and actually find compass directions to within "reasonable" accuracy (like, 10 degrees or maybe only 20.) Only the part about stars moving straight right being straight south and stars moving straight left being straight north is fully correct. (That is, unless you watch a star that's north and too far up. If you look up at a 55°-ish angle, then you'd get a star that doesn't move very much. And if you look up at more than a 55° angle, then you get a star that moves in the opposite direction: right.)
Why does the school nativity pageant come to mind ? Only joking, great practical advice. This is a topic few can practice in the UK now because of light pollution. Thanks for giving information on a seldom mentioned subject.
Nonsense, you need to get out of town more. Most of the UK is countryside, full of stars. You'll be telling us this us a 'small, overcrowded island' next.
@@jonm7272 You obviously live in a far less light polluted sky area than I do. Enjoy what you have, I'm jealous, can't remember when I last saw the Milky Way !
Search Dark Sky International formerly International Dark Sky. Search for UK sites, parks, or communities. There are several in England and Wales as well as elsewhere in the UK. I have gone to a few here on the US, and one Platinum level IDA Park just blew me away. I could see the light clouds of the Milky Way, and I could recognize constellations that I’ve known all my life only by considerable effort because there were so many more than normal stars. Light pollution is a real problem. Most do not even suspect what they are missing.
Hi map reading company! If I may ask? What is your name? I feel like I may be rude, by using “map reading company”, I love your channel and the waffles, it’s so pleasant when you share your experience and knowledge and I don’t want to lose the privilege of your educational opportunities! Every time I tune in your channel, it’s an awesome adventure! I’ve mentioned it before, your ability to grasp the viewer attention is amazing! I feel like I’m right there with you on that journey! Thank you so much for the tutorials and education!! Be well my friend STRENGTH AND HONOR, see you on the next journey!! By the way, we’re 8 hours away from you, here in Washington state, I got the notification very early in the morning for members only, it was right around 02:30 PST😂. 👍🏽💯❤️🇺🇸
As a former US Marine and Boy Scout this is a much better instruction than I had. Very good thanks for your efforts.
As another former Marine and Boy Scout, I heartily concur.
This is all new stuff for me as I'm not much of an outdoors man, but gradually I am pushing myself and really enjoy your videos. You have a great waynof explaining things.
I'm into navigation, but I never came across this before. Excellent video!
I’m so impressed and thank you for teaching this!
Being doing this for quite some time and I took an Intro to astronomy class, and it made it more interesting. I enjoy night hiking and there is a horseshoe shaped loop trail around a lake located out in the forest at about 7500 feet that is one of my favorites. Trail is well defined and mostly level and with several open areas with very good night sky views.
This was quite interesting and informative. Upon seeing the big Stanley flask (thermos) pulled from his rucksack, I knew Wayne was a man after my heart. ☕
Thanks!
Thank you Hector, this is really appreciated
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I'm a new subscriber, but I've been binge watching your content. I need a refresher for using a compass and map since I haven't used those skills much since my Boy Scout days. Your channel has been really helpful and I just wanted to say thank you for the content. One thing I envy you for is the landscape you get to navigate in. Not only is it beautiful, but the history in those hills is truly incredible. Having said that, I was hoping I might talk you into a video on navigating tips for the less inspiring terrain. I live in Florida and although there are many things that make Florida beautiful and unique, it's not exactly easy to navigate in. For the most part because we have little elevation changes. It's very very flat terrain and dense sub-tropical forest. I was wondering if you had some tips and tricks for navigating in very flat terrain and what your approach might be. It's difficult to do anything other than leap frog from tree to tree and handrails can be few other than streams, lakes, and roads. Swamp land can change very quickly in only days or weeks depending on the rainfall so even maps which show swamp land to your east might be under your feet during the summer. Maybe there's not some secret knowledge to be had, but I do wonder if there are some guidelines or tips that might help.
I didn't know that. Now I do. Thanks
This reminded me of someone 294 years ago
Calibration checks were made using a using a star his window edge and a neighbours chimney stack Harrison clockmaker 1730 the well known ones at H1 2 3 and the H4 - Star transit exactly 3 minutes, 56 seconds (of solar time) earlier than the previous night.
John Harrisons story is interesting and a bit sad but it did have a happy ending. see book by Dava Sobel's Longitude
In 1720 he made a wooden clock that is still working - turret clock at Brocklesby Park, North Lincolnshire
The sun, and stars, rise in the east and set in the west. This can help you remember that if the star is rising (going up) you are looking east. If it is setting (going down) you are looking west. And I can always imagine looking north and seeing a star rising just a little to the east of the North Pole, move left as it comes up and then goes down. So rightwards movement must be south. If you have trouble imagining this, find a time lapse video of the stars moving while looking north and I think you'll get it. They all sort of rotate around a point from right to left as the earth rotates.
Another technique that I use is to look at the moon, if it's visible and isn't full. Crescent is ideal. If you know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west and you know if it's more or less morning or evening and you know that the sun is illuminating the lit side of the moon then you know where the sun is, as in which horizon it just went down or is coming up.
Thanks for another great video!
"Observing the lit shape on the moon and deducing where the sun is" is a technique that I am not seeing covered very often. I think I actually had to come up with that on my own.
I love this !
I always learn more than what I came for! ❤
Another great video. Thanks
This actually makes sense. Our own sun itself sets (down) in the west and rises (up) in the east.
Very impressive…thank you
On patrol, I would sit in the jungle watching stars cross over a hole on the canopy. Stay sitting in the same spot for about 15 mins. Then put a stick on the ground pointing N
Greetings and thanks for the great content.
Does this method work equally for both hemispheres?
LURD
NESW
Left Up Right Down
North East South West
Earth rotates to the East, so the Eastern night sky appears to move Up.
With the rotation away from the West that night sky appears to move Down.
you've got it backwards mate about what is moving. the earth doesn't move, but the stars move from east to west
So, in North America, we drive on the south side, while in the UK, you drive on the north side. Just saying.
When it's not moving, why choose another star? I know it's north already. Great video again . Thank you!
I guess because you can't always see the north star, but on most partially cloudy nights you can see some star and any is good.
It's for confirmation purposes.
This would be helpful in some areas where you may want to distinguish from a stationary light... like in the Alps or mountains where a mountain hut light can look like a star in the distance (especially from a valley or lower position), or a distant light on power towers in the desert, etc.
Happy Trails!
🇺🇸 🏕 🌲
@@paulamcclure3402 makes sense. Thank you!
The way you explained it actually gives you quite low accuracy. (Which I think you tried to express at 8:02.) And "only being able to distinguish the 8 directions on a compass rose" might even be too generous.
If you're at 55° north, then the celestial equator rises to 35° above the horizon in the south. And stars on that celestial equator also rise/set exactly in the east/west. That means that in order to go through those three points in a circle, they have to rise and set at a 55° angle from purely vertical (the exact same as your latitude).
If you're in the UK and a star very close to the horizon moves up and right, then that's actually east. And if the star that's close to the horizon moves down and left, it's actually west.
If your 3-dimensional imagination is good enough that you can visualize star movements on a celestial sphere that's moving around you on a slanted axis, then you can correct for this problem and actually find compass directions to within "reasonable" accuracy (like, 10 degrees or maybe only 20.)
Only the part about stars moving straight right being straight south and stars moving straight left being straight north is fully correct. (That is, unless you watch a star that's north and too far up. If you look up at a 55°-ish angle, then you'd get a star that doesn't move very much. And if you look up at more than a 55° angle, then you get a star that moves in the opposite direction: right.)
Why does the school nativity pageant come to mind ?
Only joking, great practical advice. This is a topic few can practice in the UK now because of light pollution. Thanks for giving information on a seldom mentioned subject.
I enjoyed making that star. I've not done that since I was about 7 or 8 (but this time I was allowed to use the scissors unsupervised 😊)
@@TheMapReadingCompany 🤣 😂 😆 😅 😅 😆 😂 🤣. Great comment. !
Nonsense, you need to get out of town more. Most of the UK is countryside, full of stars. You'll be telling us this us a 'small, overcrowded island' next.
@@jonm7272 You obviously live in a far less light polluted sky area than I do. Enjoy what you have, I'm jealous, can't remember when I last saw the Milky Way !
Search Dark Sky International formerly International Dark Sky. Search for UK sites, parks, or communities. There are several in England and Wales as well as elsewhere in the UK. I have gone to a few here on the US, and one Platinum level IDA Park just blew me away. I could see the light clouds of the Milky Way, and I could recognize constellations that I’ve known all my life only by considerable effort because there were so many more than normal stars. Light pollution is a real problem. Most do not even suspect what they are missing.
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Hi map reading company! If I may ask? What is your name? I feel like I may be rude, by using “map reading company”, I love your channel and the waffles, it’s so pleasant when you share your experience and knowledge and I don’t want to lose the privilege of your educational opportunities! Every time I tune in your channel, it’s an awesome adventure! I’ve mentioned it before, your ability to grasp the viewer attention is amazing! I feel like I’m right there with you on that journey! Thank you so much for the tutorials and education!! Be well my friend STRENGTH AND HONOR, see you on the next journey!! By the way, we’re 8 hours away from you, here in Washington state, I got the notification very early in the morning for members only, it was right around 02:30 PST😂. 👍🏽💯❤️🇺🇸
My name is Wayne
Not rude, just mental.
Where are you little star?
(Where are you?)
Whoa oh, oh, oh-uh-oh
Ratta ta ta too-ooh-ooh
Whoa oh, oh, oh-uh-oh
Ratta ta ta too-ooh-ooh
🎼🎶🌟🎵 😄
JESUS......
if you accidentally chance on Polaris you might not need to look for another star...
In that case it might be good to confirm using a different star, to make sure the Polaris you're looking at isn't somebody's porch light