I think many in the martial art community, or who think they are in it. Don't realize that to really become a martial artist, is when you get to that stage that you create a style, based off of previous styles. Wing chun came from when Ng Mui took white crane and snake techniques and put them together. Nowadays, if she did that and showed it on TH-cam, people would call it fake.
There needs to be a solid understanding of the style's movement principles, stances, and core combat philosophies when creating a new martial art. For this reason, combining styles or creating a new style was considered a big deal in the past. Will the newly created martial art work & flow seemlessly? Does the entire system work and translate well as a whole unit? There definitely has been successful "combination" styles throughout Chinese martial arts history. In fact, majority of them are, including Wing Chun. Another good example is the numerous styles of relatively unknown Long fist styles prevalent throughout Northern China. The most critical part of creating such a style is that it needs to have a solid foundation & combat philosophy that is consistent throughout the whole system - rather than mishmashing a bunch of systems into a hodgepodge. Which is probably the most difficult part to get it right. (This is arguably the most distinguishing feature between Chinese martial arts vs. "Modern"/Americanized martial arts.).
Yes, I agree. But I have witnessed this for years now, and it is almost across the board, that the people that spend a vast amount of time criticizing and saying something is not valid, are not qualified to. They are not people that have learned all aspects of Kung Fu. A lot of them seem to not have at all, or go to MMA schools. So like I said, if Ng Mui lived today and came up with wing chun, and posted it on TH-cam, these people would say it is fake. The people that actually know, wouldn't say anything. One thing about Martial Club, is they understand freedom of individual martial art expression.
It's quite funny, because martial artists in the past actually had to use them to live and survive - contrary to most people today. People use "cultural isolation" as an argument against traditional Chinese martial arts, claiming that they were ineffective and unalive? People in the past didn't just deal with random thugs or ring sports. It was a question of making a living (as bodyguards/mercenaries) or defending oneself and loved ones. They had to deal with opponents armed with swords and spears. If the person was unlucky, they were also armored, in formation, ambushing, using traps, maybe even using long-range weapons. Although many may disagree, my perspective is that the martial standards for today is not the highest - but rather one the lowest ever.
Dear Martial Club. I love your channel. you are the reason that I started to train more kung-fu and I dropped a weight of 5 kg and I am starting to stretch more. Thanks to you for these videos and keep up the good work.
Very proud of you guys for always keeping Maria arts to its roots! To be complimented on your martial arts by a master must be amazing. Great job, and keep up the good work MC!
Thank you Sifu Daniel Mah! Martial Club is such a great inspiration!!!! I hope you guys have a great Thanksgiving!!! Keep kicking and God Bless Martial Club!
Your heart and soul is in your kung fu, man.Of course the masters liked it. :-) I salute you guys, keep up the great work!Love an respect from Hungary!
I have literally no lifed your guys channel in the past 3 days. Love the work you guys put into it. I would like to see all this applied to sparring with no coriog. I hope you guys keep this stuff coming.
"Ah Hung, not only realize that in kungfu there's no place for luck; but you also care for others feelings. This is the moral discipline of martial arts. With your kungfu when you defeat someone you conquer him physically, but when you think for others and you are just and reasonable; This is the Quintessence of kungfu, more forgiveness, less aggression, Ah Hung you must remember this." Great Grandmaster Lu Ah Tsai to Grandmaster Wong Fei Hung- Challenge of the Masters 1976.
Thanks Sifu Daniel Mah for this video clips. You guys are doing a good job presenting Chinese Martial Arts. As a suggestion you may consider for a future topic, I think it will be fascinating to present Chinese kung-fu styles that are no longer practised, or died out, or have been lost because it wasn't passed on. I believe from legends and movies that there are such extinct Kung Fu styles
But if change weren't inevitable, should martial arts change at all? Combat wise maybe since self-defense is a science. But as an "art", would any change ever truly matter since it is (forgive me if I'm mistaken) an aesthetic form of self-expression and therefore entirely subjective? Not objective unlike the "martial" (combat) aspect and therefore not something objectively measurable like the effectiveness of a technique/strategy? Not something that can actually "improve" but simply be made into whatever suits the preferences of the individual? Change seems arbitrary in that sense. (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)
Well said. I practice martial art, but emphasize more on the martial side than the art. but the art is a cultural and traditional thing which really, change, is as you said, is arbitrary. As art is a form of self-expression, it’s subjective and therefore change has no definite good or bad effect. Many traditional sifus would say the new wushu is a dance, not MARTIAL art. that is because these sifus think the martial side is ALSO the art side. again, subjective, but to them, combat IS the art
If we're talking about effectiveness, then clearly the most effective would be taking the strengths out of the existing martial arts and finding a way to meld them together in a smooth and efficient way. However, as you said, martial arts these days are less about optimizing effectiveness but more about developing its style. Not that they're not effective, but they're effective enough, and people don't actually need them to defend themselves that that's not the focus anymore. On that note, however, I'm of the opinion that while change is inevitable, and we should strive for change for the better, we should still hold on to our traditional roots, and not lose sight of them. As you said, martial arts are more of an art form now, and it would be painful to see the loss of our traditional styles of martial arts the way other traditional art techniques have been lost to the test of time in the past. That's why I really enjoy watching Daniel and Andy. They embrace innovation, but at the same time they recognize the importance of tradition, and being able to learn and use the traditional styles correctly alongside their new styles, rather than replacing the old with the new.
Jamyang Pelsang Not necessarily the art part is meant to also express the martial part. I see what you are saying but change is not wrong in either martial or art. The martial arts should coincide not be separate. However if you change to much then it is no longer the same thing. Therefore following the philosophy of karate learning all the styles you can and take what works this was how it was before gichin funakoshi ruined karate
Hey you guys inspired me realy to start with kung fu. in moment i practice the traditional taekwondo. i would just say thanks that people like yours make so awesome videos :) greeting from germany ;)
Así es¡¡ hace ya muchos años, con maestros formados en China... ustedes me divierten mucho sobre todo Bryan¡¡ jajaja , tu español es muy bueno, saludos desde chile....
I practice Muay Thai and boxing as well as more traditional forms like wing chun and tai chi. I enjoy the content keep it up and I also appreciate your efforts in keeping the spirit of kung fu alive! :)
" A strong will is of utmost importance for anyone who wishes to master the art of Hung gar kuen. He must not only be willing to dedicate a great part of his life to Hung gar kungfu, it must become a part of his being. It is only then he can develop his mind, body and spirit to their fullest extent." Master Bucksam Kong, Hung gar kungfu: The Chinese art of Self Defense.
The Hung Ga system That I was tought was an evolved style. I didn't know this until I started finding other videos on TH-cam to see my style. I was in utter shock! Here I thought all these years I learned a traditional form...not that it's bad...I was just a little dissapointed.
Today's traditional forms are merely the evolution of what they were yesterday. It's on us to learn well and to innovate on the things we've learned well :)
Dima totally makes this channel. He does some of the best quality on this channel. I really love all of them martial arts videos. Not so much the tricking videos though... the best videos are when Dima starts talking about martial arts, history, culture of martial arts, Styles Etc. Can you guys make an application video showing how you would use the martial arts techniques in the fighting situation? And can you guys do a free swearing video where you guys just put on some gloves and spar? If I'm ever in California can I make a video with you guys? I will let you guys kill me in a fight scene or something. LOL
" Kungfu, It means, Supreme skill, that takes time and effort to acquire. A great poet has reached kungfu, The painter, The calligrapher, they can be said to have kungfu. Practice, Preparation, endless repetition. Until you are too tired too sweat, too wasted to breathe. That is the way, the only way, one acquires kungfu." Taoist Monk Li Jin Bao a.k.a. 'hundred eyes'
Good insights. I have limited experiences in practices martial arts in the USA and in Taiwan myself (currently in Taiwan). As a generalization, I think the structure and atmosphere of the class can be very different between cultures, as well as the decorum and behavior as a student that must be observed. I have my own concerns about how much real understanding of some of these traditional systems will be passed down after a few generations, but perhaps my outlook is more pessimistic than the reality.
Nick Au i mean, martial arts has been around for... hundreds of years? truly, what is 'real understanding'? what's considered as 'real understanding of martial arts' few hundred years ago might have already died down
Demigod is Real - Fair play. A lot of this is arguable, of course, but what I mean by having an 'understanding' or a 'real understanding' is by knowing the meaning behind traditional routines and movements. There are several aspects to why things are done the way they are, but for the sake of argument I'll confine it to 'application' and the development of fighting ability. You can certainly say, 'well, maybe all the original knowledge has been lost,' or, 'well, what's the "true" interpretation.' I'm not exactly arguing for an immutable Truth in understanding a system. There is also the case that different teachers and different styles modify things over time. I'm more concerned with everything being accounted for (convincingly) within the system. If there are complete mysteries, then there are holes in understanding. Some practitioners see variations in the same moves or routines over styles and seek to understand why the variations were made. I see this as an admirable approach to deeper understanding. I talked to someone recently who said a teacher in their lineage took out moves from a routine because they didn't understand the meaning. While that could be a loss, I think it's better than completely making up questionable and over-idealistic applications.
weird suggestion.....but it would be cool. Just demonstrate the tricking/parkour moves of different superheros like daredevil but explain what each is before doing it. Im a beginner so it takes me forever to figure out what each move i see in a show like arrow or daredevil even is called and then i have to search for a tutorial. I think alot of people would like an easier way to identify and learn moves in the style of characters.
I like this topic on change, I got an interesting point on this Martial Club I feel Change is good yes but not everyone can change something to make it deeper or better. I’m not talking about you or anyone but as a hypothetical. I see a lot of change in the martial art world and what I’ve seen is that we cling to what looks good rather than what feels good. We focus on the idea of martial arts but not the feeling of martial arts. The beauty of martial arts is not the advance flashy swirly techniques. Although they are beautiful in their own aspect there is a subtle beauty that lingers just beyond the sense of sight. It is the subtle beauty of pure intention rather than the technique itself. The technique is the shape that holds intention but without pure intention it is an empty vessel devoid of life or meaning and therefore devoid of that subtle beauty. The one change I’ve seen in traditional martial arts that has been for the good is XinYi Liuhequan 心意六合拳 one of the internal styles. Ji longfeng was an experienced martial artist in his own field and he became a disciple of the lineage holder of xin yi liu he quan for a decade and with his deep understanding of that art he transformed and reinvented an entire system to what is now called Xing Yi Quan 形意拳. He felt that the art’s true intention was to master intention. He thought xin yi was redundant because heart means intention and yi for mind is like also saying mental intention. So he modified it to xing yi quan for shape intention fist. To give it a deeper meaning for the shape holds the intention, he than used Daoist philosophy of the 5 elements and transformed them into 5 fists as the basic set and than used the 12 animals as the advance set so that the animals were an example of a specific intention to master and to go farther xing yi quan was modified again and now called yi quan 意拳 for intention fist and all the practitioners do is practice qi gong stances because the concept of forms limit the freedom of intention. It’s all great stuff and I feel that is a beautiful and correct example of change in the martial world while maintaining its subtle beauty so that secret knowledge is not lost or forgotten. Let me know what you think.
Love you guys, you're my source of inspiration and enthusiasm. You deserves all the best. I think you're Bruce Leezz of nowadays 💪 ㊗🉑🉐㊙🈵🈲🈴🈶🈷🈸🈺🈚🈹🈂🈳 that means nothing just i do love Chinese writing 😉 for the sake of Chinese martial arts.
Change is not good for those who have not truly mastered basic fighting application mechanics. I find it interesting that so many people focus on how something looks but not how it feels. I see a lot of people doing taichi and other kungfu on video and they lead with shoulders and hands instead of with feet and hips and the result is that the movements have no practical application other than it looks pretty. I see low stances that are not rooted, flurry of hand movements without meaning etc.
Erlu Chaquan: th-cam.com/video/fpWELFWecvM/w-d-xo.html I practice Northern Shaolin and Praying Mantis but I also make efforts to learn whatever I can learn from reliable sources :)
Whoa! cool.. you guys are awesome xD I wanted to learn that too but there is nothing like that in my city, but there is Wing Chun and i learn it right now :) anyway, Thanks for the video and reply ..
6:18 i recognize this man, i saw him break some concrete plates with a downward slap, it was well executed. Now, obviously, i understand how breaking works, but still i never saw it done with that kind of slap before.
If you guys ever happen to visit Toronto you should visit the Shaolin Cultural Center Of Canada. It's an organization where a few Shaolin monks from the temple in China, go to different countries and spread Shaolin's spirit and culture. You can visit their site for more information. www.shaolintemplecanada.com/
Demigod is Real that’s a very valid point but I really love the forms. And the breathing and meditation exercises have really helped my health. Not disagreeing with you at all though. Your suggestion is really good.
blockmasterscott hmm maybe you should try other asian martial arts? like personally i take gongkwon yusul, which has a mix of western fighting, but is a korean based martial arts (with influences with ju jitsu, hapkido, etc), the moves arent as fluid like kung fu, but there's meditation and importance on breathing while punching or kicking
I also practice Choy Li Fut, and I completely understand your sentiment, but I feel that change is the only way for martial arts to evolve for the better. I look back to how our founder Chan Heung combined Northern and Southern styles together from three different fighting systems to create Choy Li Fut, combining those styles into his own. All martial arts founders were geniuses in their own rights because they put into motion the evolution of older martial arts. Change, if done in the right way, can be a very good thing.
Have you Pressure Tested your Martial Arts in Real life situations? Some Movements are Handed down without the Knowledge of what that movement was intended for. The Dance of the Movements are wonderful..Art. without the knowledge of the Movements that created the dance there is no Martial. Just a Question with a Statement Not here to argue. Here to evaluate and stimulate and research. I enjoy this Channel it is one of my Favorite Channels!!
Apdiwadud Ahmet You are tkd? Like the whole art??? Just kidding, I get what you mean. Cool for you you. What style, or organization do you practice under?
This makes me so excited for you guys!!!!! Go Martial Club!!!!!!!! What an honor to have masters visit your school! How cool is that!!!
I have learned so much from this.
You guys really inspire me.
The legacy of Martial arts and Kung fu shall live on.
I think many in the martial art community, or who think they are in it. Don't realize that to really become a martial artist, is when you get to that stage that you create a style, based off of previous styles. Wing chun came from when Ng Mui took white crane and snake techniques and put them together. Nowadays, if she did that and showed it on TH-cam, people would call it fake.
There needs to be a solid understanding of the style's movement principles, stances, and core combat philosophies when creating a new martial art. For this reason, combining styles or creating a new style was considered a big deal in the past. Will the newly created martial art work & flow seemlessly? Does the entire system work and translate well as a whole unit?
There definitely has been successful "combination" styles throughout Chinese martial arts history. In fact, majority of them are, including Wing Chun. Another good example is the numerous styles of relatively unknown Long fist styles prevalent throughout Northern China.
The most critical part of creating such a style is that it needs to have a solid foundation & combat philosophy that is consistent throughout the whole system - rather than mishmashing a bunch of systems into a hodgepodge. Which is probably the most difficult part to get it right. (This is arguably the most distinguishing feature between Chinese martial arts vs. "Modern"/Americanized martial arts.).
Yes, I agree. But I have witnessed this for years now, and it is almost across the board, that the people that spend a vast amount of time criticizing and saying something is not valid, are not qualified to. They are not people that have learned all aspects of Kung Fu. A lot of them seem to not have at all, or go to MMA schools. So like I said, if Ng Mui lived today and came up with wing chun, and posted it on TH-cam, these people would say it is fake. The people that actually know, wouldn't say anything. One thing about Martial Club, is they understand freedom of individual martial art expression.
It's quite funny, because martial artists in the past actually had to use them to live and survive - contrary to most people today.
People use "cultural isolation" as an argument against traditional Chinese martial arts, claiming that they were ineffective and unalive? People in the past didn't just deal with random thugs or ring sports. It was a question of making a living (as bodyguards/mercenaries) or defending oneself and loved ones. They had to deal with opponents armed with swords and spears. If the person was unlucky, they were also armored, in formation, ambushing, using traps, maybe even using long-range weapons.
Although many may disagree, my perspective is that the martial standards for today is not the highest - but rather one the lowest ever.
Aden YANG oh I agree with you 100% that the standard today is s lot lower than in the past.
Dear Martial Club. I love your channel. you are the reason that I started to train more kung-fu and I dropped a weight of 5 kg and I am starting to stretch more. Thanks to you for these videos and keep up the good work.
Very proud of you guys for always keeping Maria arts to its roots! To be complimented on your martial arts by a master must be amazing.
Great job, and keep up the good work MC!
I'm going to continue practicing martial arts until I leave this Earth thank you guys for these legendary moments that you all share
Thank you Sifu Daniel Mah! Martial Club is such a great inspiration!!!! I hope you guys have a great Thanksgiving!!! Keep kicking and God Bless Martial Club!
Damn, D Mah, it's always nice to hear your insight on martial arts and especially on traditional kung fu. Also congrats my dude!
This is why the Mortal Kombat tournaments were started years ago, to find out what style is best... That and to defend Earth Realm.
Your heart and soul is in your kung fu, man.Of course the masters liked it. :-) I salute you guys, keep up the great work!Love an respect from Hungary!
I love videos like this guys! Thanks for inspiring my *WARRIOR SPIRIT!!!*
You guys never stop inspiring me.I wish you were here to train me.
awesome, I'm no one but I'm proud of what you guys have accomplished. I'm from Louisiana and I'm rooting for y'all
Congrats Martial Club, continue to train an inspire others in martial arts. Coming to you all the way from Bermuda!!
I always like before I watch. You guy's are an inspiration to me.
It is really great when a master compliments your art and gives encouragement
I have literally no lifed your guys channel in the past 3 days. Love the work you guys put into it. I would like to see all this applied to sparring with no coriog. I hope you guys keep this stuff coming.
I love training while watching this Channel
Ya know what I want for Christmas? A martial club track jacket. Where is it guys, I want to buy one!
Love it...keep on martial club..
Congratulations guys! Nice to have all your hard work acknowledged!
"Ah Hung, not only realize that in kungfu there's no place for luck; but you also care for others feelings. This is the moral discipline of martial arts. With your kungfu when you defeat someone
you conquer him physically, but when you think for others and you are just and reasonable; This is the
Quintessence of kungfu, more forgiveness, less aggression, Ah Hung you must remember this."
Great Grandmaster Lu Ah Tsai to
Grandmaster Wong Fei Hung-
Challenge of the Masters 1976.
Thanks Sifu Daniel Mah for this video clips. You guys are doing a good job presenting Chinese Martial Arts. As a suggestion you may consider for a future topic, I think it will be fascinating to present Chinese kung-fu styles that are no longer practised, or died out, or have been lost because it wasn't passed on. I believe from legends and movies that there are such extinct Kung Fu styles
You guys are such an inspiration!!!
It is awesome that those masters liked you guys' styles!
But if change weren't inevitable, should martial arts change at all? Combat wise maybe since self-defense is a science. But as an "art", would any change ever truly matter since it is (forgive me if I'm mistaken) an aesthetic form of self-expression and therefore entirely subjective? Not objective unlike the "martial" (combat) aspect and therefore not something objectively measurable like the effectiveness of a technique/strategy? Not something that can actually "improve" but simply be made into whatever suits the preferences of the individual? Change seems arbitrary in that sense. (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)
Well said! No vilifying this, or being delusional about that. Just an intelligent assessment. This is by far the best comment I've read here. 👏👏👏
Thank you sir :D I try to be rational without being offensive. Hopefully no one took this the wrong way!
Well said. I practice martial art, but emphasize more on the martial side than the art. but the art is a cultural and traditional thing which really, change, is as you said, is arbitrary. As art is a form of self-expression, it’s subjective and therefore change has no definite good or bad effect.
Many traditional sifus would say the new wushu is a dance, not MARTIAL art. that is because these sifus think the martial side is ALSO the art side. again, subjective, but to them, combat IS the art
If we're talking about effectiveness, then clearly the most effective would be taking the strengths out of the existing martial arts and finding a way to meld them together in a smooth and efficient way. However, as you said, martial arts these days are less about optimizing effectiveness but more about developing its style.
Not that they're not effective, but they're effective enough, and people don't actually need them to defend themselves that that's not the focus anymore.
On that note, however, I'm of the opinion that while change is inevitable, and we should strive for change for the better, we should still hold on to our traditional roots, and not lose sight of them. As you said, martial arts are more of an art form now, and it would be painful to see the loss of our traditional styles of martial arts the way other traditional art techniques have been lost to the test of time in the past.
That's why I really enjoy watching Daniel and Andy. They embrace innovation, but at the same time they recognize the importance of tradition, and being able to learn and use the traditional styles correctly alongside their new styles, rather than replacing the old with the new.
Jamyang Pelsang Not necessarily the art part is meant to also express the martial part. I see what you are saying but change is not wrong in either martial or art. The martial arts should coincide not be separate. However if you change to much then it is no longer the same thing. Therefore following the philosophy of karate learning all the styles you can and take what works this was how it was before gichin funakoshi ruined karate
That's right as the world changes the martial arts change too.
You guys are AWESOME.
Amen brother so awesome congrats to you Andy and your school 😀
I'm in love with your channel. You are inspiring me to improve both my martial arts and my filmmaking ^^
Awesome guys, your all the best
Hey you guys inspired me realy to start with kung fu. in moment i practice the traditional taekwondo.
i would just say thanks that people like yours make so awesome videos :) greeting from germany ;)
Hola, yo los veo desde Chile Sudamerica, yo practico Choy Li Fut Chan Family, saludos a martialClub...
Hola! me encanta saber que las artes marciales chinas florecen en Sudamerica! Saludos!
Así es¡¡ hace ya muchos años, con maestros formados en China... ustedes me divierten mucho sobre todo Bryan¡¡ jajaja , tu español es muy bueno, saludos desde chile....
Great work!
Felicidades!! Congratulations!!!
Should do a history lesson of how martial art spread across China and Asia.
you are the besth martial club
I practice Muay Thai and boxing as well as more traditional forms like wing chun and tai chi. I enjoy the content keep it up and I also appreciate your efforts in keeping the spirit of kung fu alive! :)
as always what you guys do is inspiring !!
Hello martial club u guys are the best keep it up
I hear Bruce Lee's philosophy in your words.
I think this is a very important message.
Sincerely, another student.
Amazing job guys!
" A strong will is of utmost importance for anyone who wishes to master the art of Hung gar kuen. He must not only be willing to dedicate a great part of his life to Hung gar kungfu, it must become a part of his being. It is only then he can develop his mind, body and spirit to their fullest extent." Master Bucksam Kong,
Hung gar kungfu: The Chinese art of Self Defense.
The Hung Ga system That I was tought was an evolved style. I didn't know this until I started finding other videos on TH-cam to see my style. I was in utter shock! Here I thought all these years I learned a traditional form...not that it's bad...I was just a little dissapointed.
Today's traditional forms are merely the evolution of what they were yesterday. It's on us to learn well and to innovate on the things we've learned well :)
Can u guys make more videos where u actually fight or do a match
You guys made me push my limits i am really thankfull peace
I like martial club...
Please new video soon
And please tell me that where are you from
...
Happy New Year!
Well spoken D. Congrats!
Dima totally makes this channel. He does some of the best quality on this channel. I really love all of them martial arts videos. Not so much the tricking videos though... the best videos are when Dima starts talking about martial arts, history, culture of martial arts, Styles Etc.
Can you guys make an application video showing how you would use the martial arts techniques in the fighting situation? And can you guys do a free swearing video where you guys just put on some gloves and spar?
If I'm ever in California can I make a video with you guys? I will let you guys kill me in a fight scene or something. LOL
MASHAALLAH khub valo video.........
WOW it so cool.
Amazing
hey guys, please upload i'm dyyyyying for another video lmao
" Kungfu, It means, Supreme skill, that takes time and effort to acquire. A great poet has reached kungfu, The painter, The calligrapher, they can be said to have kungfu.
Practice, Preparation, endless repetition. Until you are too tired too sweat, too wasted to breathe.
That is the way, the only way, one acquires kungfu."
Taoist Monk Li Jin Bao a.k.a. 'hundred eyes'
Such an honor. It would be hard to sleep after a night like that
nice work :)
Nice guys! Gratz
ok thanks i from brazil
Helped me improve thanks!
I’m thirteen years old and I wanted to find you guys and see if you could teach me Kung fu where can I find you guys
Good insights. I have limited experiences in practices martial arts in the USA and in Taiwan myself (currently in Taiwan). As a generalization, I think the structure and atmosphere of the class can be very different between cultures, as well as the decorum and behavior as a student that must be observed.
I have my own concerns about how much real understanding of some of these traditional systems will be passed down after a few generations, but perhaps my outlook is more pessimistic than the reality.
Nick Au i mean, martial arts has been around for... hundreds of years? truly, what is 'real understanding'? what's considered as 'real understanding of martial arts' few hundred years ago might have already died down
Demigod is Real - Fair play. A lot of this is arguable, of course, but what I mean by having an 'understanding' or a 'real understanding' is by knowing the meaning behind traditional routines and movements. There are several aspects to why things are done the way they are, but for the sake of argument I'll confine it to 'application' and the development of fighting ability. You can certainly say, 'well, maybe all the original knowledge has been lost,' or, 'well, what's the "true" interpretation.' I'm not exactly arguing for an immutable Truth in understanding a system.
There is also the case that different teachers and different styles modify things over time. I'm more concerned with everything being accounted for (convincingly) within the system. If there are complete mysteries, then there are holes in understanding. Some practitioners see variations in the same moves or routines over styles and seek to understand why the variations were made. I see this as an admirable approach to deeper understanding.
I talked to someone recently who said a teacher in their lineage took out moves from a routine because they didn't understand the meaning. While that could be a loss, I think it's better than completely making up questionable and over-idealistic applications.
weird suggestion.....but it would be cool. Just demonstrate the tricking/parkour moves of different superheros like daredevil but explain what each is before doing it. Im a beginner so it takes me forever to figure out what each move i see in a show like arrow or daredevil even is called and then i have to search for a tutorial. I think alot of people would like an easier way to identify and learn moves in the style of characters.
Nice jacket!
Hii Good mrng...guys..
I like this topic on change, I got an interesting point on this Martial Club
I feel Change is good yes but not everyone can change something to make it deeper or better. I’m not talking about you or anyone but as a hypothetical. I see a lot of change in the martial art world and what I’ve seen is that we cling to what looks good rather than what feels good. We focus on the idea of martial arts but not the feeling of martial arts. The beauty of martial arts is not the advance flashy swirly techniques. Although they are beautiful in their own aspect there is a subtle beauty that lingers just beyond the sense of sight. It is the subtle beauty of pure intention rather than the technique itself. The technique is the shape that holds intention but without pure intention it is an empty vessel devoid of life or meaning and therefore devoid of that subtle beauty.
The one change I’ve seen in traditional martial arts that has been for the good is XinYi Liuhequan 心意六合拳 one of the internal styles. Ji longfeng was an experienced martial artist in his own field and he became a disciple of the lineage holder of xin yi liu he quan for a decade and with his deep understanding of that art he transformed and reinvented an entire system to what is now called Xing Yi Quan 形意拳. He felt that the art’s true intention was to master intention. He thought xin yi was redundant because heart means intention and yi for mind is like also saying mental intention. So he modified it to xing yi quan for shape intention fist. To give it a deeper meaning for the shape holds the intention, he than used Daoist philosophy of the 5 elements and transformed them into 5 fists as the basic set and than used the 12 animals as the advance set so that the animals were an example of a specific intention to master and to go farther xing yi quan was modified again and now called yi quan 意拳 for intention fist and all the practitioners do is practice qi gong stances because the concept of forms limit the freedom of intention. It’s all great stuff and I feel that is a beautiful and correct example of change in the martial world while maintaining its subtle beauty so that secret knowledge is not lost or forgotten.
Let me know what you think.
awesome job guys
Make new tricking sampler u guys are motivating me to tricking
Love you guys, you're my source of inspiration and enthusiasm. You deserves all the best. I think you're Bruce Leezz of nowadays 💪
㊗🉑🉐㊙🈵🈲🈴🈶🈷🈸🈺🈚🈹🈂🈳 that means nothing just i do love Chinese writing 😉 for the sake of Chinese martial arts.
Change is not good for those who have not truly mastered basic fighting application mechanics. I find it interesting that so many people focus on how something looks but not how it feels. I see a lot of people doing taichi and other kungfu on video and they lead with shoulders and hands instead of with feet and hips and the result is that the movements have no practical application other than it looks pretty. I see low stances that are not rooted, flurry of hand movements without meaning etc.
He said your style is like a noodle😂😂
hahahaha
Yesterday was monday you dosent make any new video
GENIAL😎😎
Is martial club over?
WHERE CAN I GET THAT JACKET?!?!
UPLOAD A NEW VIDEO!!! Pls?!
can someone gimme link of the video of that Chinese man in blue doing kung fu?
thanks. btw, what type of kungfu do you learn?
Erlu Chaquan: th-cam.com/video/fpWELFWecvM/w-d-xo.html I practice Northern Shaolin and Praying Mantis but I also make efforts to learn whatever I can learn from reliable sources :)
Whoa! cool.. you guys are awesome xD I wanted to learn that too but there is nothing like that in my city, but there is Wing Chun and i learn it right now :)
anyway, Thanks for the video and reply ..
6:18 i recognize this man, i saw him break some concrete plates with a downward slap, it was well executed. Now, obviously, i understand how breaking works, but still i never saw it done with that kind of slap before.
Congrats D Mah
If you guys ever happen to visit Toronto you should visit the Shaolin Cultural Center Of Canada. It's an organization where a few Shaolin monks from the temple in China, go to different countries and spread Shaolin's spirit and culture. You can visit their site for more information. www.shaolintemplecanada.com/
podrian subtitular su videos en español por que no entiendo lo que dicen por favor🙏😢
Where are you guys located?
LETS GO 2018
Being a traditionalist myself in Choy Li Fut, I have a hard time accepting change in martial arts.
I feel ya, maaaangg
maybe you should try out some more western type of martial arts? it brings new perspective
Demigod is Real that’s a very valid point but I really love the forms. And the breathing and meditation exercises have really helped my health. Not disagreeing with you at all though. Your suggestion is really good.
blockmasterscott hmm maybe you should try other asian martial arts? like personally i take gongkwon yusul, which has a mix of western fighting, but is a korean based martial arts (with influences with ju jitsu, hapkido, etc), the moves arent as fluid like kung fu, but there's meditation and importance on breathing while punching or kicking
I also practice Choy Li Fut, and I completely understand your sentiment, but I feel that change is the only way for martial arts to evolve for the better. I look back to how our founder Chan Heung combined Northern and Southern styles together from three different fighting systems to create Choy Li Fut, combining those styles into his own. All martial arts founders were geniuses in their own rights because they put into motion the evolution of older martial arts. Change, if done in the right way, can be a very good thing.
Can you guys do an abdominal workout
Daniel definitely had a great foundation
wich is the style of tai ji quan called?
Want you to make a vídeo with jet li
What did he think you were at 4:27? I heard wudang sthsth but that must be wrong.
Martial arts is my form of expression
Martial Club :I like to learn kung fu from you
Me pregunto por que no hacen wushu moderno con toda la habilidad que tienen.
Preguntales pues
Andy si practica el wushu moderno. Yo practico tambien pero no lo hago bien
I'm kinda sad because i want to make martial arts, but in my land there only exist karate taekwondo more and no martial arts
Anyway i make Karate
Karate and taekwondo are martial arts. Did you mean Chinese martial arts?
nice :3 boys
Have you Pressure Tested your Martial Arts in Real life situations?
Some Movements are Handed down without the Knowledge of what that movement was intended for. The Dance of the Movements are wonderful..Art. without the knowledge of the Movements that created the dance there is no Martial.
Just a Question with a Statement
Not here to argue. Here to evaluate and stimulate and research.
I enjoy this Channel it is one of my Favorite Channels!!
Am I allowed to make fun of Martial Club?
1sunstyle if we're allowed to kick your ass😂 (just kidding)
Make a vídeo with jet li
I'm Taekwondo
Apdiwadud Ahmet You are tkd? Like the whole art??? Just kidding, I get what you mean. Cool for you you. What style, or organization do you practice under?
i be practice wing chun each day with the ring but are more way to practice with ring.
New video ? Not?