Where Was Destiny Going? The Sudden END of Stargate Universe (Dial the Gate)
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- STARGATE UNIVERSE was of course never meant to end with its Season 2 cliffhanger, only 40 episodes into a planned 5-year story. The show's writers were just as shocked as fans when Syfy Channel cancelled the show ... just when it was getting really good.
In this clip from a special installment of "Dial the Gate," host David Read chats about the final season of SGU not just with writer and executive producer Joseph Mallozzi but also his long-time writing partner, fellow Stargate executive producer Paul Mullie! It's great fun to hear them reflect together on learning that the show would be ending, how they crafted story ideas in the writer's room, and just where it was that DESTINY might have ended up.
This clip is from Dial the Gate's full-length, 80-minute conversation with Joe and Paul. The full interview is a real treat for Stargate fans, and you can watch it here: • 131: Joseph Mallozzi &...
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I was heart broken when this show was canceled. I had watched every episode of every other SG series, and wanted this new approach to be successful. I was really into it. Really wish it could be picked up and finish out the remaining of the story
yeah MGM are stupid to have cancelled it and given up of stargate as a whole but what can you do?
I agree. I just finished all the sgu episodes. When it was on TV, I was working afternoons and didn't see many. Great show. I watched all SG1, Atlantis, now sgu.
@@robertgadany4849 Would be amazing if Amazon could pick it up. Love arc episodes concept.
@@adrian82141 yeah what the hell was that all about anyways cause it made them look like dumb asses oniel didn't do that in sg1 he figured it out on his own with sam and jackson why cause that's what they had to do
I just pretend they never made it to the next galaxy because the fat boy screwed up, and they're still drifting for thousands of years.
I can still feel it today. Watching that final episode left the biggest lump in my throat, and a sense of anger. Loved this show so much even after only two seasons, it was a natural extension of stargate and what it ment to me. I will always say. In my opinion the best sci fi show I have had the pleasure to watch, in the best sci fi series to grace TV. Thank you so much for creating this universe for people to enjoy.
I agree. It was the first Stargate series I watched even and led me to watch all of the others. I didn’t dislike the others, however, I much preferred SGU.
If the beginning had been different it could have been a huge show like Battlestar Galactica, the beginning threw a lot of people off, myself included.
It's among my favorite shows now but when it came out, before certain characters were fleshed out I didn't like most of them. By the time it finished they were all awesome.
Me tooo.
stargate is awesome, please come back in some shape or form
Same. There's been an empty void in my life in terms of watching my favourite shows. The only show that kinda filled that void for me partially was Dark Matter, which had that familiarity to it, same producers, writers, Tapping directing/producing etc but then that got cancelled.
When I first started SGU (a couple weeks ago), my first reaction was "This isn't Stargate." I like dark and gritty to a point, but this was too dark and gritty, especially for Stargate, too constantly dark to make everything land just right. I definitely saw potential and liked certain aspects, but firmly expected SGU to be my least favorite of the series.
But having just finished it, this may be my favorite. I had heard SGU became much better in Season 2, but the turnaround was far beyond anything I had expected. All the characters really came into their own in Season 2, and the show sprinkled in just enough humor to make those tough scenes hit all the more. I have never reached the end of a series with such a hunger for more.
Similar. When the show premiered I was almost hate watching Season 1, just too dark and too much drama, but Season 2 turned things around so well that I was actually bummed it got cancelled.
I hated the pilot, but I continued watching because I'm a loyal SG fan boy. By the end of season 2, I was legitimately sad to see it go. I still don't think of it as "Stargate," rather as a show that stood on its own. I think it's a good thing that familiar face cameos were kept to a minimum.
I love the change of style for SGU and in some ways it is the best Stargate series. I hated to see it just get dropped like that. It deserved an ending and I think a proper ending would have solidified it as a great SGU series.
I loved this show and just started rewatching it. One of my core memories for the entire SG series is when it was revealed that Destiney was using the sun to recharge. I did not think that is how they would get out that.
I was never actually impressed with SGU until the second half of the second season. It made me angry that once it finally started getting good that Syfy cancelled it. They did something similar to Caprica too.
Gotta agree. SGU sucked pretty hard early on (why were so many of the people so stupid so often?) but it did get better. Even so, the ending without any follow up gave implications of what happened to the ship and crew. Somewhere in the vast, they're still out there.
@@andrewd7112 I keep hearing they’re doing an new SG1 series now that Amazon owns the franchise (or is purchasing the franchise). I kind of hope maybe they’ll throw us all a bone as to what happened to the SGU people.
To me SGU seemed like it was just trying to hard to be the Stargate version of Battlestar Galactica.
@@TheHartonGroup Atlantis landed on earth cloaked, i'm not really sure how you can continue the series. It's gotta be a reboot, unless they just ignore the whole Atlantis magic transport across to another galaxy in a second.
Yeaa Capirca hawe soo BIG potencyal
totally agree about SGU. Caprica, on the other hand in my (controversial ) opinion was a a fake spin off from the start... it was a completely different sci fi show that was pretending to be be related to BSG and failed, so they started leaning into the BSG connections to try and save the show. The problem was that to me no one ever had any genuine interest in Caprica as a connected show. It was dressed up to be related to BSG just to get it made.
I like that the stargate writers understand the world enough to actually solve problems they create for characters in the way the characters would. They look at what they've encountered before and ask if any of it can solve the current problem. Even in times where they can't use something, the characters often ask if they can. Which is why when you watch stargate, you are never like "why didn't they just call the Asgard?" or something cause the characters tried it or said why they can't. Too many sci-fi and fantasy stories just introduce a new macguffin every time or retcon established lore or plumb forget to ask the character who it was already established could fix their problem, and fans are left scratching their heads.
To be fair SG1 did that in spades. While solutions where based in the reality of the show rather than macguffins (except basically anything Ori related), any and all big bads have been retconned in some form. Ra was originally the last of his kind Asgard looking alien (than again I'd say roughly 70% of the movie had been retconned by the start of SG1), than Apothis was supposed to be the second in command to Ra controlling his fleet, and nearly all after that, with the exception of the NID, where basically all introduced as "but wait the guy we're fighting isn't really the big evil overlord, this new guy is". Which became even worse as the show went on with Anubis and the Ori being extreme cases of it.
@@relo999 I'm not saying macguffins didn't exist, but they didn't just introduce them in lieu of pre-existing things. But what you are talking about regarding retcons is a different thing. But even there, aside from the retcons to the movie, they didn't retcon too much. Learning that there is another bigger bad out there isn't undoing what was previously stated, it's just showing what was previously assumed by characters with limited information was false. Now did the writers always know the characters were making false assumptions? Probably not. They may well have intended that to actually be the case then revised it. But that revision didn't typically make anything else that was said wrong. And that's what I mean. They mostly covered their bases and realized when they did stuff that they'd need excuses to explain why they didn't just do X or why they didn't know this before.
I just finished watching SGU! I imagined a great ending for the series right after I saw “Epilogue”: the crew teams up with their descendants, and together they try to dial Earth one last time... and end up on Earth, but millions of years in the past. They start yet another civilization from scratch (aided by the descendants’ experience of having done this before) and that civ eventually develops into the Ancients! Right before the Destiny gets destroyed, they find million-year-old video recordings of themselves on board, explaining that the Destiny was launched to close the time loop and make sure the Ancients exist. This would explain so many mysteries from the show: why it seemed these people were destined to be on Destiny; why the ship seems to have exactly what is needed to survive every encounter; even the name Destiny! And it would make a touching finale, showing how important each and every crew member is for contributing to the diversity, complexity, and survival of the Ancients, which in turn led to modern humans discovering the Stargate and Ancient technology, etc., etc.
Great idea, would be awesome to see
That wouldn't work because it's already established that the ancients are from the same galaxy as the Ori. They share the same homeworld.
Interesting...
Apparently that’s partially what they were going for - they were going to be the original Ancients or something.
Apparently there’s an interview with Robert Carlyle with him saying something along those lines
So…Battlestar Galactica?
Damn… Starting to get the urge to rewatch the entire stargate series again…
I never stop lol
Im rewatching all 3 series every 2-3 years 😂 takes like 2-3 weeks of binge watching but even though i know all of the episodes i still enjoy watching them
Having the show explore the universe as a Möbius strip would have been a great conclusion. Ending where you began but in the past. The crew we end up being the first humans (or ancients). A great paradox. The signal was the Destiny’s signal.
it would have been declared lazy but i would have been satisfied with that
Glad I'm not the only one with that idea.
This is the ending I feared. "Disappointing" doesn't even begin to describe it. To each their own, I guess.
Why then would Destiny not recognize it's own signal?
@@scorpiusbalthazar4327 Distorted through time and space.
The funny thing is that I watched a few episodes of SG-1 when I was 8-9 years old and in my 20's my 14 year old nephew watched SGU together and got hooked. In my 30's I decided to literally go back and watched every SG series in a span of 2 years and became a huge fan of the series.
SGU was brilliant, Robert Carlyle was so good in it. You where ment to hate him 😉
LOL that show was a massive soap opera not a sci fi show!
@@larryw5429 Honey, all the best sci-fi shows are like soap operas. Deep Space Nine, the reimagined Battlestar Galactica, the Expanse, Babylon 5. That's because they take the good part of soap operas (character-driven storytelling) and tell compelling stories with those characters that often span many episodes, forming a complex narrative.
Shows like Star Trek The Next Generation, Voyager and Stargate SG-1/Atlantis are popcorn TV. They're simpler, focused on single episode stories with the holy Magic Reset Button. They're easier to watch, require less investment from the audience and are typically less complex. That's why they're also usually more popular with the general public.
I personally didn't like all the people related plots, but as a Sci-Fi Fan I totally loved the Idea of a realistic 'go to where no one has gone before' like STNG in our Timeline. The new strange aliens, the idea that this ship just was designed to go as far at it can and then the other ships who build and set Stargates just for connection and supply. Such a genius idea and they ended it like this... so sad
I was so angry when it was cancelled. It was the very best of sci-fiction on television for the time. Right up there with BSG. Cancelled because it didnt feature aliena shooting and beating each other up, and a large chested female lead for the cringe nerds to ogle.
@@larryw5429 if by soap opera, you mean "character arcs," then sure...
The OST plays at the end where everybody went into sleep while Eli stays behind always makes me cry...
While season 1 was really slow, season 2 really started getting interesting. Gutted it got cancelled so early on.
My canon is that destiny was building a radio interferometer telescope and once it had created a large enough baseline distance it'd connect all the gates back to the start and have the angular resolution large enough to decode the information at tiny angular scales in the cosmic microwave background.
Jesus... Dude... That would be mind-blowing
I remember writing my own ending to SGU. In it Earth realizes that through thier new alliance with the Priors, they could bring Destiny back to earth. See, to me, it makes sense to me that Destiny would also record a eight symbol address to each galaxy. When Eli does a report to Earth while still trying to fix his pod, they instruct him to look it up, along with a planet with a stargate that the drone ships have destroyed the civilization that inhabited it. The Priors would then open a wormhole to that gate with a shield as in the SG1 episode Beachhead. The shield would pull all drone ships, they would attack the shield, and create the singularity for the supergate. The energy backlash and wormhole creation would destroy many of the drone ships. Then the 304 fleet, and some Prior ships would come through and destroy the remaining ships along with Destiny's help. Then the Fleet would return to the Milkyway. After Destiny is repaired, she returns to the last galaxy with a proper crew and Rush to continue the journey.
Universe was a great show. I would love it to come back.
I love that they were thinking of the expanding universe along the balloon thought and not falling into the old "center of the universe" trap.
The show got so good when Rush found the deck and turned good. I watch the season every year just to cry - the music was phenomenal.
Honestly, I think Rush finding the deck should have happened in season one. Personally, I would have combined seasons 1 and 2 into the first season, cut out episodes that were unnecessary and kept the plot at a good pace.
was rooting for Rush to get spaced
Now that amazon owns the franchise. IT DOES NOT NEED A DAMN REBOOT. This franchise is perfect as it is. What is needed is a new series. A well written and thought out new series.
Watching SG1 again, AGAIN for the 4th binge through.
The wife finally is paying attention and now says she loves it.
As I look at the series it had many chances to add new and or younger actors to it. Many chances for more spin-offs, but didn’t. Now sadly, (physically shaking my head) they may have blown their chance to bring back Stargate.
Time will tell and I have no confidence any Stargate will come back, good or bad.
I am still pissed off this ended abruptly.... damn corporate scumbags.
they sit at some dark shady board and sell shows to shareholders and investors like the old slavetrade public auction , this hre wont do any good any more the men wants a new shiny one type
Yes I would love a conclusion to SGU!😄
there was a conclusion in the comic book, Eli solved the power issue by using the ships momentum to make more power (like a dynamo) he also wondered why the ship only had a few status pods when the ship was designed to carry thousands of ancients, Eli managed to find more rooms with status pods but those's ones were already filled with sleeping ancients who he was able to wake up, the ancients questioned Eli but then ignored him and started repairs to the ship, they were planning to dump the earth crew out on the first habitable planet, Eli woke the captain to warn him - sorry that all I know as the comic ended there and I didn't buy the next episode
it's just a testament to how TV producers choose to keep garbage around for year after year but when they actually have something that's compelling and edgy been pushing the bar they cancel it
Thank you!!!! Really I mean it thank you. I really digged this show at the time as had lost fare bit of my friends at the time. So for some reason thie show really helped during my stroke recovery.
Take care.
I fell in love when I watched the movie Stargate; then the series came out. After years of watching SG and SGA, SGU came out, it took a few episodes to get into it, but I loved it also. It was a sad and hurtful day when I learned SGU was ending.
I'm afraid to say no to the SGA ending , it's clearly a cliffhanger .. The real "ending" was in the crossover with SGU where it's said that Atlantis is in Pegasus again.
But SGA have never got a real ending.
Apart from that , I do agree that the SGU finale let everything open , like Verhoeven's Total Recall, the ending is what you feel .
It's just sad SGA got canceled for SGU and SGU just became good in mid season 2 ...
Imho, sga ended appropriately with that 8 book series.
Them landing on Earth is the real ending for me. The team completed their mission, brought Atlantis and all her technology home. Earth can now learn from the ancient databases. An prepare to take the fight to Wraith on our own terms as and when we choose without always thinking about protecting Atlantis.
@@DavidKnowles0 Same, their is no way they would allow Atlantis to leave earth, its would most likely be the point where they would announce the stargate to the public, that would be a nice mini series.
This series ended FAR too soon. It was hard going for a Gate fan to start with, but it just began to get really interesting, then it ended. What the hell?
BRING THIS AMAZING SHOW BACK!!! Absolutely LOVE the series
SGU was awesome bring it back
What I hated the most about the finale of SGU was that the show really hit it out of the park for the last 6 episodes or so... I really felt all the characters had come into their own and the pacing problems had gotten ironed out and finally some major surprises and directional changes for the show had really kicked things into high gear... and then.... it ENDED??? so sad.
yeah, it was just getting good cause the actors were getting into their groove and then boom its over shame bringing it back now it would be crappy again cause the time that has past ruined that groove now the old actors new ones would be starting out from scratch again
Not the first time SciFi channel murdered a good show before it had a chance to finish telling its story.
SGU was the first and only SG tv show that didn't bore me. The premise was great, the ship was amazing, the actors were great, the continuity was great, the stories were great...
I was so sad when it ended.
But the premise... being trapped on an ancient, unknown, almost mythical ship that possibly has something like half a consciousness, exploring it, having to repair it, and learning to control it... I so love that concept.
It was the only one I found watchable.
Are yall dumb? SG1 and Atlantis weren't boring, FARRR from.
@@XHobbiesPrime That is unfortunate, I thought they all had good and bad points, but overall the series of each were watchable.
@@ronson53 SG-1 and Atlantis just weren't for me.
My head cannon is that in the last episode where Eli is looking out of the ship at the light and smiles then frowns, he realized if he dropped the collectors it would collect that small amount of light and run the ships life support for him, but he would be alone for years on the ship.
Funny thing about that. There is a comic book series called "Back to Destiny' that takes place after the last episode that has him do that to collect the energy around the ship in FTL to add that little bit of extra energy.
Those things aren't solar panels. When Destiny flies through a star, it's collecting hydrogen - fuel for a fusion reactor. At FTL, the shield prevent _anything and everything_ from reaching the ship. (a spec of dust at those speeds would destroy the ship. there was never any technobabel about how it does this, but it's flying through normal space, not hyperspace.)
There was that episode where they mentioned some sort of structure that Destiney was flying towards. Finding out what it was would have been interesting.
A structure? I only recall the whole signal hidden in the cosmic background radiation thing.
@@Mate397 it was collectiong bits and pieces thru the universe of the code they found in the background radiation of the universe
@@Mate397 I haven't seen it since it originally aired, so I only have a base recollection, but I thought in the last episode or two they mentioned how there was some sort of structure of some kind in what appeared to be the center of the Universe, and Destiney was headed straight for it.
@@MrRabiddogg there was a structure to the background noise in the cosmic radiation. Not a physical structure, but the way Morse code is a structure in noise
A structure in the cosmic background which showed "intent and creation". But that was just the trigger... than they discovered that embedded into that structure was information. a message, manual, explanation, whatever! BUT it deteriorated so much that it could not be recovered. So, they launched Destiny to collect data ACROSS the universe and reconstruct the information.
The original intent was to send such ship streams into many directions to achieve complete reconstruction, , but than they discovered Ascension and abandoned the project, because it was clear that once ascended the knowledge will be available in full!
Need a miniseries or streaming series of Eli adventures surviving, protecting, maintaining, and flying the destiny. Trying to recover the destiny and it's crew. Maybe occasionally waking up helpful crew etc.
But never Rush.
@@sarasorensen2650 My first thought aswell xD
@@sarasorensen2650 Eli not suppose waking anyone but going to sleep himself or doing suicide.
Seeing a 30-50 year old Eli who spent the entire time on the ship alone learning all there is to it all the while everyone else is still in stasis not aging is a tragic outcome I have at the end of it. Eli couldn't fix the pod however he was able to fix many other secrets the ship had. Including a food source. I would have like to see a young crew then this boss Eli has to restle not becoming like rush because all he had for years was knowdgle and loneliness.
And obviously kill any characters you can't recast easily
He would figure out how to retrieve Ginn from quarentine in the computer.
the problem with this idea: the ship was running low on energy, that is why they had to go into the pods, so they could preserve enough power to actually get to another sun to recharge. if Eli didn't fix the cryosleep chamber, he must have come up with some energysource that could power the ship enough to keep the life support online and find a way to have enough water and food, in only 2 weeks...
@@Tzkaar Considering that life or death problems were solved in a day or two on a regular basis by Eli, two weeks is more than enough time.
@@macrumpton true, but even Eli can't make something from nothing. their resources were very limited. like water, food, spare parts for repairs and the most important energy. the main things that the crew and ship needed to keep going.
and i'm pretty sure our favorite two bigbrains would have come up with something, if there was another posibility... besides hanging out in cryopods for a while and the hope the AI-drones don't follow them and block the next sun.
LOVED SGU with passion only equalled by my love for DS9 & BSG. Stargate Universe, built on the strong foundations of SG1 & Atlantis, elevated the franchise on all fronts o story, cast, sets, effects to a mythic level which ended unreasonably and way too soon. I would love to go back on board Destiny in a heartbeat to have that story completed.
I love all the Stargate series but I especially loved SGU. It was grity versus being sugar coated like SG1 and Atlantis
Sugar coated?
How were they sugarcoated? Just curious.
@@heathb4319 SG1/Atlantis focused on single episodes. They followed a structured narrative, and there was rarely a major change except for season finales/premieres. The characters typically got along with limited to no conflict, and the stories were generally not challenging for an audience. Star Trek The Next Generation was quite similar.
SGU was more bold. Characters died, there was conflict, challenging themes were presented, etc. It didn't always work, but they didn't sugarcoat things for their audience. In those other shows, you never really worried if a major character might really get hurt because you knew that they'd be back next episode. In SGU, anything could happen.
@@Cailus3542 ...Kawalski was a major character in the movie and the start of SG1..he died by having his head cut in half when tealc was forced to hold him. That is some grit for you.
Oneill lost his "second son" when Ska-rah was taken.
Daniel lost his wife.
Those were just the first 2 episodes.
Throughout the first season there were mistakes made and we got to see how they affected the characters. Some of them pretty gritty.
SG1 had the responsibility of setting up everything you love about SGU. I think if you go back and re-watch SG1 and look for the loss and struggles you will see way more than you remember.
There was loss and struggle throughout the entire series.
In SGU when you have as many main characters as they had...of course you could lose one or two and keep the story going.
In SG1 when you only have 4 well it makes it harder to lose one. But you can show loss that affects them and let us the audience see how they handle it.
Even then..we still lost characters such as Carter's dad, doc frazier, kawalski, daniel for a whole season even though he came back it was well written on how and why but until that point and for a whole season we thought he was gone.
Developing grit can happen in many ways...
Peace
@@Cailus3542 ...Also i think the word DIRE instead of GRIT is a better word.
In SG1...you had to worry about stepping through the gate with a chance of not coming back but you could always come home if unless something stopped it.
SGA...started off with stepping through the longest wormhole ever created by humans with a great possibility of never being able to come home.
SGU...was forced through a gate to somewhere unknown, once there you can go through a gate to a planet but if you miss your time mark and get left behind you are stuck there, even back on the ship(your place of safety or home) you still may die from a number of other things.
Absolutely the polar opposite of me. They made SGU with young angsty people in mind for the audience. Youngsters (or way-too-serious adults) who were into dark psychological drama. Those same viewers who found Rodney’s comic relief in SGA to be an insult to the sci-fi genre (while we laughed our a$$es off at it). They wanted that young demographic for the ratings. So they succeeded with you. But those of us who enjoyed the franchise from Day 1 - starting with seeing the movie in a real movie theatre? SGU left us behind. But that’s OK. We got almost 20 years of entertainment, it was your turn. Cheers.
It was sacriledge to end the series the way it did. The cancellation by money men was a stab in the eye for sci-fi fans.
There's no other way to see that..,
NBC did the same thing to the Revolution series, and then a few years later they decide to complete the series via comic book, which was just junk.
Wish SGU got a season 3 or a movie like SG1, would be nice a new stargate series or movies.
If you are referring to the 1994 Stargate movie with James Spader and Kurt Russell, that film is what started the Stargate universe and led to SG1, SGA, & SGU being made.
@@thoroswyrmsbane6677 I think he is referring to "ark of truth" etc.
@@jscrub6232 oh, right I forgot about that one. And continuum. Been a while so my memory was fuzzy on the movies.
I would have loved to see them get destiny up to 100% operational power bit by bit, for example by finding another destiny ship somehow adrift in space on the same mission (like a sister ship to destiny), but out of power and could scavenge parts from it to fix their ship. Or finding another time looped version of destiny like the one that was created when they tried dialing inside a star.
Same. We never saw the results of scavenging the parts in twin Destinys. I wanted the aliens who restore the shuttle to brand new to do the same to destiny. Would have looked amazing when it was and the crew would have full access to the whole ship. We'd get to see un-used rooms and equipment and who knows. If they did come across another ship it may have a shuttle as Destiny had three docking bays.
That last season was worth watching and I’d like to see the cliff hanger ending pay off. It was written to be restarted.
I loved SGU. Yeah SG1 and SGA were also great, but the tone of SGU - really wish it had continued.
To me, SGU was and is the best drama sci-fi show ever created. beats anything i have seen in more than 20 years of watching sci fi television.
The hatred they had for each other's, then the drama and fighting they had took them basically 2 years to begin any sort of bonding or even sit at the same table and eat Like Rush and others.. They performed like real-life people in real-life situations like this, like the real US being inside some starship reaching that is reaching the end of the universe and there's nothing none of us can do.. Anything Rush has done or Eli or Young or Greer or Scott, the fights between themselves were unique, whatever they did to each other I see myself doing the same exact thing, betraying, killing, loving, fighting and so on..
This is the very reason that SGU is to me the best sci fi show ever.
The thing with them not ageing in the pods was canonised in Atlantis it doesn't stop it just slows it down and there's nothing to say that these earlier pods dont slow it down as much if at all and only keeps the people alive so that can easily explain the characters older appearance.
And for the actors that can't/won't come back just say that some of the pods failed snd they died
Did anyone know that there are Lego Stargate projects on Lego Ideas? If they reach 10,000 votes they can get an official release. There’s a super dope BC-304 project on there. Gateworld should promote it so it can get to 10,000 votes and get an official release
This show being cancelled is a constant reminder to me that sometimes in life, you can do everything right..........and still fail through no fault of your own. How an ending episode ( "Gauntlet" ) can be so beautiful and yet so heartbreaking at the same time, is truly incredible. Bless you guys for creating this show. We can all only hope and pray one day that the crew of Destiny completes their mission.
So imagine; Atlantis is sent to find Destiny. As they trace Destiny's path they meet up against all the enemies and allies (descendants) of Destiny. Atlantis is now able to produce ZPM modules so they decide to cross the void, along with the surviving descendants, and they find Destiny in a new galaxy. When they do, they discover that Destiny has found/ allied with the Furlings in a war with an enemy far more dangerous than any faced by humanity so far. However, Destiny being made from materials from a different galaxy give the Furlings a step up against the new enemy. Then Atlantis shows up and furthers their ability against this new enemy also being from a different galaxy. Plus it now doubles as a floating space base. GO!!
They most likely just haven't found the ZPM room, yet I could see that. I absolutely love your idea.
I like the idea, maybe except the "yet another, even more dangerous enemy". I can see that it would probably be a must for the show, but it's been done to death as much as Yu's name.
We've already seen threats to the entire galaxy, if not the whole universe. I would prefer something original, a strange, unexpected motivation for the enemy, maybe the enemy not being enemy for a while, or perhaps a different level of threat entirely (something more subtle, in the sense of the Borg in Next Generation - largely unknown, completely alien and non-traditional, a looming threat that isn't imminent per se, but could very well be). Very difficult to come up with something even as a fan, there are MANY shows and stories, conjuring up something original is a tough challenge.
I still think they could pick up where the show left off. With David's (Eli) weight loss it would fit in with how they left the show. So much possibility they had with the show. If they do not at the very least finish the story some how I will be disappointed.
Rush got fat. So the machine malfunctioned and fed one more than the other 😂
@@giovannebeistline2575 There are ways to make that work lol. Being they fixed the stasis chambers who knows what could of gone wrong.
They were brilliant with the stasis pods, this way if it they somehow restart the show any actor that can’t come back can just be written off as dead in the pods.
Somehow earth manages to dial into destiny again and bam, new characters.
@@giovannebeistline2575 They can explain it that Eli couldn't fix the machine, but he figure out how to stretch the power systems for life support for years. So he and Rush and co constantly switch in and out of statist.
@@manu144x Yup, I agree. The cast getting older wouldn't be a problem either - the pods simply wouldn't suspend time for them, they'd merely put them to sleep and feed them. Goes with the gritty nature of SGU. The cast would have to deal with getting older and completely wasting a couple of years of their life in the pods, despite different expectations.
Or even worse, their bodies were suspended, but aged and minds didn't even sleep. Trapped in their own bodies for a couple of years, making some of them go crazy. A way to write off a character whose actor wouldn't want to or couldn't return, but still could film an episode or two.
The pods are indeed a great plot device.
I just watch SGU again and loved it...the characters the acting, SFX the stories (mostly) I was really upset when it was cancelled, it was my favourite Star Gate series.
Universe needs a third season featuring the "Planet builders" and it's possible connection with purpose of the Destiny.
I'd have loved to see more exploring of the Ship, maybe finding an Ancient armoury, full on medical bay and who knows what Cargo could have been found.
My fave SG series, I have watched it prob 5 or 6 times..... so good....
I never got into SG-1. It took me awhile but I finally finished Atlantis. But man was I hooked on SGU from day one. I loved everything about this show. Hated when it ended
the opposite for me I hated it form day one since it had yelling and personal conflicts that never ended and sex with female soldiers and they had silicon big boobs - which a soldier anywhere would not have , for me it was kiddified warmovie in space and the episodes were to short to the format - and many threads left unexplored and the stones... what raelly would have happened just about everyone on that ship would have had a earth scientist doing exploration of the ship enginers of every caliber -but i guess the script was like a Bill and Ben script made by William Marshal - every novel max150 pages and printed with big letter -no content really other than conflicts - I stil miss sgu
One of the things I always love about Stargate is how continuity is always respected, even when the continuity in question is absolutely batshit. How many stories did Black Hole Planet feed into (Original, the Supernova, the Aschen)? Carter going "If I could go back in time...which, admittedly is something I've had a chance to do". I could go on and on. Whereas in Star Trek a BS technobabble solution might have one very niche application and never be heard from again, in Stargate, a BS technobabble solution is forever.
I also liked the evolution of technology. Unlike most sci-fi series, where tech stays stagnant, you actually see Earth get a big jump in tech level as the series goes on, and there's episodes where they get each piece of technology, so everything has a history. The constant references to early episodes really make it feel like a continuous story, even though it's in episodic format.
It always made no sense to me in Star Trek how they encounter so many alien races with all this crazy tech and capabilities, yet there's never any advances because of it.
@@taragnor w.r.t. Trek, which races and technologies are you talking about? In TNG/DS9, pretty much everyone uses the same tech. The Borg have a version of transwarp that the federation "understands" but can't build. (Voyager has to steal TW coils from borg ships.) Voyager is the only series that's regularly encountering new races, and from time to time, they do incorporate bits of their tech. (it doesn't always turn out so well.)
@@jfbeam Pretty much all the races, obviously the Federation is the most showcased. Voyager was a bit better about showing them try to use alien tech, but in the other shows, they really don't seem to even try. I get sometimes they can get by saying "it's not compatible with Federation technology", but really, for a show about seeking out new life and civilizations, they don't seem to learn much from those other races. You see them encounter all manner of new alien technologies from the various races they run into. Some basic examples would be the Tholian Web (TOS), the Breen energy dampening weapon DS9, the Doomsday Machine(TOS), the Wadi "magical" games (DS9). When there is a new technology developed by the Federation, I really can't remember them ever saying something like "we based this off the technology from species X" or something to that effect. It doesn't really have a sense that they're gathering new technology like Stargate.
Voyager is a bit better about this than the others, in that you can see the ship integrates some Borg tech thanks to 7 of 9. But really, why haven't the rest of the Federation broke down some Borg salvage and tried to figure out their technology better? The nanoprobes obviously seem to have a variety of useful applications as well as all the other technology they've got.
Even the Borg who have supposedly assimilated hundreds (thousands?) of different sentient races have a relatively small array of technology they use, which seems odd for a race whose creed is "adding your technological and biological distinctiveness to our own."
I just finished SGU last night. Next up is Origins and then I'll be done and ready for the new series! This was probably the best time for you to upload this video, thanks.
What new series... there is nothing
@@blazer666del Have you died yet? No? Guess that makes you an immortal then, right?
LOL
Did the Destiny or other seed ships go through the Ida galaxy, would that have alerted the Asgard of the Ancients early on in their history? What's the gate network like in Ida; full of milky ways gates or Destiny gates?
4:56 like the VR dream pods SG-1 was snagged into back in the early seasons of SG-1 I want to say like season 2, maybe 3. Sam mentions it later in Season 4 of Atlantis when Shepphard suggests going into McKay's dream when that Crystal terrorizes/kills people in their dreams.
I loved when they brought gimmicks back from earlier seasons like that.
For me, this the best Stargate show. The original movie is number one, Universe, number two.
If the stasis pods are built into the ship, and the ship is ancient technology, then they could probably have the pods be integrated into the system in such a way that the ship could make new bodies for the people in the stasis pods and upload their memories and everything to the new bodies. That would allow for a new continuation of the show with new actors.
I just completed rewatching SGU again after a couple of years of the last viewing.
I think the biggest problem with SGU was that it started off too slow and boring. The series got interesting around the middle of the second season. If you don't pick people up at the beginning, they won't stick with it. The show had so much potential, the ship was so huge and undiscovered, there was so much to discover, to explore, to do. I would have loved to see more of it.
SGU was the crown jewel of the Stargate universe.
I can live with the SG1 and SGA endings, but i need SGU closure. Not SG related but i think the worst ending was Joseph Millozi's other show Dark Matter. I'll never get into another Syfy network show again after that.
The edge... And beyond.
Despite the obvious drive to be like BSG, I thought this series ended up in a really cool jumping off point for some great stories. Shame the fans trashed it so hard and it was cancelled.
If I was running the SG universe (pun intended), I would do a total reboot starting from Sumerian mythology instead of Egyptian. Then weave in other ancient mythologies. Something reflecting our more modern understanding of recent more ancient antiquity, or at least something along the lines of Graham Hancock.
The mention of Destiny returning to earth possibly millions of years in the past or future, reminded me of a theory I've played with, that the Ancients and the Ori are the descendants of the civilization descended from the Destiny crew via more time and space travel. I remember that although they came together in the end, they had divided into two groups, one being religious/superstitious and the other more scientific.
I really liked SGU.... It pissed me off that it was forced to end on a cliffhanger.
I would solve the Problem with the Stasis and the Aging of the Actors as followed:
Short: While drifting between Galaxies the Destiny collect Dark Matter Particles that it can be used to speed up the Ship.
Long: Since Eli was on Destiny there was always one thing that bothered him. One Part of the console never was lit up and the words on it made no sense. Translated they would mean "Nothing Processing Unit and Nothing Processing Collectors". With all the action going on Eli had no time to look deeper in it. But one Day while the Ship id drifting and everyone is in Stasis. Eli walks into the Control Room and sees a blinking Light on the console. He touches it and a second Console is opening that was not there before. It seem to describe a experimental processing of "Nothing" to boost the Ships Speed.
Quickly Eli realizes that this all about Dark Matter. He wakes only Young, Scott and Rush and they decide to bring the Unit online and repair one of the Collector Channels.
All that is not on Screen. We will only hear it from The Crew after SGC made Contact and connected to the Gate. They find the crew alive and well but aged a little tiny bit less as as the actors would age. Some of them left the Ship and now live on the Planet the ship is in Orbit. The experimental Dark Matter processing damaged the Ship on the Way. It used its last Resources to get there and it is unsure if it can be used further. Only the Gate Room works after all.
This way Amazon have the freedom to use the Characters the can/want and can decide if it include them in SGC or let them join Rush on a new SGU Season.
I think that would be amazing!
I dont know guys. I loved the SGU the most. And i am the guy who watched SG 1 more than 10 times from start to finish. Its just so different from any other sci-fi's.
I thought SGU had such a incredible end goal. find the signal embeded in the big bang .....dude what a adventure, what a noble goal. I would have loved to see it to the end.
I’m going through every stargate video I like/watch and commenting strictly for interaction purposes. Love stargate and just want more
Thanks for the support, Jacob!
Didn't this occur when Syfy got rid of a significant portion of its actual science fiction and started making reality tv?
Guys, thank you for this fantastic franchise!
Hahahahaha they mentioned the "Chucky V"!!!
My old carrier.
I had an idea for a SG1/Atlantis/Universe cross over over 2 movies, couple of years ago, wanted to start writing a story draft but didn't think I could pull it off lol
SGU made Stargate for me. It was amazing.
SG Universe was an outstanding show and I hope there is some resolution to its story.
Stargate Universe was Star Trek Voyager done properly - an isolated crew traveling through a barbaric and sparsely populated wilderness, instead of Janeway cruising through the United Nations General Assembly every week.
Have been hoping for a 3rd season of SGU. I think it would be amazing for a 3rd SGU season to run alongside the new series. They could make an awesome crossover like they did with Atlantis and SG1. I really liked SGU and thought it had massive potential.
I made an episode, or 5, where Ely discovers a colony of Ferlings on an our of the way solar system where he had to stop and refuel. They had a powerful targeting EMP system orbiting the planet. It took out the drones and command ship that showed up. Ely fiends out that they were crashed there and the other shops must have thought them distroied and continued on. The signal is from them, letting the Ancients, Asguard and other Ferlings still on Earth know they reached their destination. These now repair, refurbish and update Destiny then come on board to complete their mission with the humans.
With the new TEMP system now installed on the ship, and a worm program Ely and friends design, they take out the main command ship of the drones and in a chain reaction all drones self-destruct.
The Ferlings are a mix of feline (thundercat like), werewolf like, and primate like Bigfoot. Just a thought.
This was one of the best series that I honestly wished would continue… there is so much left to explore.
I am looking for a comic book of the next season of SGU.
We find Eli in a pod, and there is a dead body on the ground. The Note from Colonel Young, tells Eli, to sacrifice one of the other crew members to save himself. If he can't fix the pod.
Remember 5 years has to pass, as the ship travels between galaxies. We meet a small team of ancients, to help repair Destiny, and then use the Stargate one night to secretly go home.
I know they finished SGU in comic form but unfortunately I never got the last comic in the series, so never got to see how the "comic final season" ended but it did involve something to do Eli waking up the crew early and finding stasis pods that had the original crew in them
It wasn't official from what I understand. Brad Wright was not involved.
There is still a small glimmer of hope that someone, anyone, with a great sense of unique sci-fi adventures, could pick up the Stargate franchise and by any chance continue Universe as a series.
However, being a bit of a pessimist (or realist depending how you look at it) the more time passes the more of course also the idea of actors returning may be a doubtful question.
I'd love for Robert Carlyle to return as Nicolas Rush.
Also any potential publisher or channel that would want to pick up the series then investing into rebuilding the sets etc. etc.,...
which by the way, the SGU set was PHENOMENAL!
I loved how multifunctional and could you say "futureproof" they made that set...and the bridge, oh my goodness I LOVED THAT BRIDGE SET. (*_*)
That is one of my dreams as well. If they dont get it done I will fund it myself if I get rich.
We all need more Stargate..
IMHO this was the best of the franchise
breaks my heart not finishing the show with a ending like the others had. i agree SG1, SGA and SGU was some of my fav tv shows ever made. i miss the days of each episode its own story
I like to think somewhere out there eli is still floating across the void. 🥺
I was an avid fan of SG1 and SGA, but SGU left me disappointed. Too dark, too angsty, too “psychological drama”-ing - while the other shows, even the original movie, was so much brighter, with beautiful colors, and had humor interjected at perfect points in the drama. I never found anything in SGU funny, and I need that kind of comic relief in my sci-fi drama shows. I understand that the writers wanted to try something different along the lets-explore-relationships line, and I understand that was to attract more young people, but a whole whole bunch of us who had been around for 20 years prior were kinda left behind with that decision. No longer in the age bracket that advertisers want, I guess. BUT- I have the whole set of SG1 and SGA episodes on DVD and I can watch them all I want. Jack O’Neill and Rodney still make me giggle. So thank you for that!
I love SGU. It was so good. Loved the more dark tone of it. Very sad to see it go away
i love all of sg but sgu had that dark, urgent undertone going on, which really let me immerse myself in the atmosphere.
Couple of months back, the internet lawyer Robert Barnes mentioned that he'd only recently discovered some great Sci-Fi series including Babylon 5 and Stargate.
I thought to myself - Oh boy are you in for a treat.
Who here loves to go read long Stargate fan fiction stories? Here a few names of long ones you should read!! Atlantis Homeworld Command!! Return of the ancients. & The Do Over!! That one is about Jack’s Consciousness is sent back to when he was a toddler!! And with all his memories so he changes just a couple things that he knew wouldn’t damage the timeline!!
That show was awesome more serious ya but so good i liked the tone.
I was sooooo upset when SGU was canceled.
To this day I rarely start watching a new series till the third or fourth season.
Listening to the writing of a tv show being like how I solve problems around the house is just inspiring.
SGU was such a great show. I would've loved to see where they took it after season 2. Maybe explore more about the drones. Bring back Ginn and Amanda. A lot of story was left to tell.
Yes, FINISH SGU!!! PICK UP WHERE IT ENDED
I hated that it ended, there should have been at least 3 more seasons, it was such a great story!
This show and the Terminator show were canceled at the worst times. Both had unresolved cliffhangers that left fans devastated! The Expanse ended the same way when it was canceled but luckily Amazon bought it. The SG:U comics continued the story for a sortof Season 3!
i didn't like the comic story for SGU.
@@5226-p1e Yeah... slight SPOILER WARNING to anyone else reading.
The solution to the power problem was "Oh hey, look over there, in the part of Destiny we didn't explore yet!" Which is admittedly the plot for many episodes lol. And also, "Whoops we didn't notice these other cryo-pods containing those other people." But still... its mostly official, it continued the storyline, and I'd welcome a live action version any day!
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it would have been better that both the ancients they found were within the ships mainframe in some isolated program, because the stasis idea falls apart because the tech is not going to sustain them for millions of years, not even their most advanced stasis chambers on atlantis had this capability.
i kind of wrote a fan fiction that was loosely based off of this idea, but that story didn't end in them finding some way back to earth with these two Alteran scientists, instead i wanted to prolong the story.
but i also wrote one to end the show in a more realistic way with the tech that they had on hand.