Awesome! Even i dont have a high end sound system i can hear the quality and profession! Its just beautiful if people know their business by heart and soul
In the credits you will find details. The answer is apparently NO, there was NO EQ or compression used. Now i wonder if that means were there any plugins? and what software DAW was used would be something interesting to know.
it's not very relevant, but it has to do with the resonating frequency of the cello and the room. The sound we hear from our voices and instruments typically come in layers like lasagna, and making the microphone Omni allows more of that resonance to be captured. In theory. It doesn't matter much here.
Coming from a cellist, not very relevant to mic placement for cello. Also they forgot to divide by 2 after multiplying by 3. Should be ~97hz for the open G.
@@leemski the whole reason I came here was to see how studio professionals mic cellos, as I am not a professional sound engineer (yet) and don't know much about microphones though I am learning a lot, especially here in quarantine. I will tell you what I do know though. I place my boom stand to the left of the player, placing the mic a little above the height of the tailpiece, a few inches away from the cello (about 6" maybe?) Through experimentation of my own recording with my large diaphragm condenser, I find it best to angle it so that it is pointing at the spot where the bridge touches the top (at the bottom of the bridge, near the F hole). This captures the rich low end from the top and hole, and wonderful high end from the bridge and strings. The top of my mic is pointed towards the player, and it is turned about 45 degrees so the capsule/diaphragm is pointing at the spot I stated previously. I've found the closer the better, but obviously you don't want to get in the way of the bow or make the player feel like they have to watch out; you want the player to focus on the music, not worrying about moving too much and possibly hitting the mic. Sorry this is a jumbled mess, but I tried to be as descriptive as I could. Let me know if this helps any! I encourage you to experiment some yourself, if you can
As he was later talking about sympathetic string response, I think he means that an open C string is sympathetic with some harmonics on the G string. For example, the first harmonic (sounds an octave higher than G) has frequency 2 times higher. As G string itself is 3/2 higher than C, it makes 2*3/2=3, which is exactly the frequency of the second harmonic on C string. Instead D or A strings will not vibrate.
Whoa, this weird thing happened to me at 4:12 up to 4:22. I play Bach's Sarabande as well, and I was looking at a different tab in my browser moments before and wearing earbuds. When the man started speaking in this clip of the video, the room and how clear it sounded made me think it was just my grandpa saying something in the other room. Then the player started playing and I was super confused. It sounded like it was me playing and when I put it together that it wasn't me, I thought my grandpa was playing a video but I still was really confused, then after a second I remembered I was watching this video. It felt really weird in a way I can't really describe better.
You need to make this video long.... Like what are you using for recoding? A phone , a camera, etc. And this microphone can be used in which devices? Over all great video
Hello! I play the cello and I'm looking for a mic to record myself playing the cello but recording it from the smartphone. Which one would you use for that? Thanks in advance!
Great video thanks ! I just don't understandhow you got to 197.5Hz for the perfect 5th calculation. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. All the way from South Africa !! Keep it lekker
Regarding the 5th - he is (somehow) right and wrong at the same time. The (real) fifth does not matter. What he (probably) means is the fifth one octave higher (in musical terms the 12th) - which is the the 3rd harmonic and thus acousticly very relevant. Of course this frequency is simply 3x the fundamental --> 65x3=195Hz
@@samueljett7807 I doubt, It is just a clickbait. Starting by the title: high-res recording? OK so what is the sample rate, what interface, what bit rate? Non of these essentials for high-res are even mentioned. They give wrong mathematical formulas, are talking about knowing the cello wave length and so without giving any explanation even the most basic one apart placing the microphone correctly. You'll actually learn more from for example AKG user manual that from this video. Sorry SONY Australia, but this video does not feed the Wombat! A mic on its own will not take high-res sound - like even no such thing like "high-res mic" (a recorder that can do that)
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The Spaced A-B pair Stereo is just phenomenal quality, even over youtube. What was used to process the raw data, which DAW, and any EQ.
I play the cello and have been recording myself haphazardly for years. I now have new tips to try, thanks!
Very nice content! And very useful! Correct G string is 97.5Hz not 197.5 Hz~
Yeah I can't believe they forgot to divide by 2 lol.
Yeah that was completely off. LOL.
Awesome! Even i dont have a high end sound system i can hear the quality and profession! Its just beautiful if people know their business by heart and soul
Wow - this is the most beautiful sound I’ve heard from cello making set ups. Was there any EQ applied?
In the credits you will find details. The answer is apparently NO, there was NO EQ or compression used. Now i wonder if that means were there any plugins? and what software DAW was used would be something interesting to know.
it was raw, awesome instrument and awesome player
awesome cello playing and killer guitar playing
extremely helpful, I record myself of playing Cello. Thank you sir !!
very helpful thank you I have a cello player coming in tomorrow to lay down some tracks thank you very much
What was the relevance of the perfect fifth and 197Hz and all that?
it's not very relevant, but it has to do with the resonating frequency of the cello and the room. The sound we hear from our voices and instruments typically come in layers like lasagna, and making the microphone Omni allows more of that resonance to be captured. In theory. It doesn't matter much here.
Coming from a cellist, not very relevant to mic placement for cello.
Also they forgot to divide by 2 after multiplying by 3. Should be ~97hz for the open G.
@@samueljett7807 What's your suggestion on placing the mic for cello?
@@leemski the whole reason I came here was to see how studio professionals mic cellos, as I am not a professional sound engineer (yet) and don't know much about microphones though I am learning a lot, especially here in quarantine. I will tell you what I do know though.
I place my boom stand to the left of the player, placing the mic a little above the height of the tailpiece, a few inches away from the cello (about 6" maybe?) Through experimentation of my own recording with my large diaphragm condenser, I find it best to angle it so that it is pointing at the spot where the bridge touches the top (at the bottom of the bridge, near the F hole). This captures the rich low end from the top and hole, and wonderful high end from the bridge and strings. The top of my mic is pointed towards the player, and it is turned about 45 degrees so the capsule/diaphragm is pointing at the spot I stated previously. I've found the closer the better, but obviously you don't want to get in the way of the bow or make the player feel like they have to watch out; you want the player to focus on the music, not worrying about moving too much and possibly hitting the mic.
Sorry this is a jumbled mess, but I tried to be as descriptive as I could. Let me know if this helps any! I encourage you to experiment some yourself, if you can
As he was later talking about sympathetic string response, I think he means that an open C string is sympathetic with some harmonics on the G string. For example, the first harmonic (sounds an octave higher than G) has frequency 2 times higher. As G string itself is 3/2 higher than C, it makes 2*3/2=3, which is exactly the frequency of the second harmonic on C string. Instead D or A strings will not vibrate.
He is playing Bach (: , Thank you for the video because Im ready to record my Cello 🌹🙏🏾 🥺
Whoa, this weird thing happened to me at 4:12 up to 4:22. I play Bach's Sarabande as well, and I was looking at a different tab in my browser moments before and wearing earbuds. When the man started speaking in this clip of the video, the room and how clear it sounded made me think it was just my grandpa saying something in the other room. Then the player started playing and I was super confused. It sounded like it was me playing and when I put it together that it wasn't me, I thought my grandpa was playing a video but I still was really confused, then after a second I remembered I was watching this video. It felt really weird in a way I can't really describe better.
Just now my grandpa started talking AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THE VIDEO! This is too crazy.
@@aidanchan1693 ORTF is worse...! especially with good iem/cans
How is it different from using a larger diaphragm versus smaller diaphragm microphones on a cello solo recording?
Any suggestions for microphones to record a bass viola da gamba?
You need to make this video long.... Like what are you using for recoding? A phone , a camera, etc. And this microphone can be used in which devices? Over all great video
This is helpful thanks.
Hello! I play the cello and I'm looking for a mic to record myself playing the cello but recording it from the smartphone. Which one would you use for that? Thanks in advance!
Thank you for the video, is very helpful
Great video thanks ! I just don't understandhow you got to 197.5Hz for the perfect 5th calculation. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. All the way from South Africa !! Keep it lekker
hey Jean-Claude I think it's a typo.. the result is actually 97.5Hz
After a ton of monkeying around I chose just about the same position for my mono mic. Just an inch makes a big difference on a cello.
Regarding the 5th - he is (somehow) right and wrong at the same time.
The (real) fifth does not matter. What he (probably) means is the fifth one octave higher (in musical terms the 12th) - which is the the 3rd harmonic and thus acousticly very relevant.
Of course this frequency is simply 3x the fundamental --> 65x3=195Hz
Exactly. I thought it was pretty basic audio knowledge that an octave up from any given frequency is double the hertz.
Extremely helpful
the link does not work under your video
As a cellist, the stereo option sounded ok, the mono option sounded nothing like a cello.
but remember that you do not hear your instrument like others do.. (distances and so on)
Thanks 😀
nice
Horrible. Showed mostly the player and not the mic's.
Amazine video
So 65 x 3 / 2 = 197.5 ? Hmm…
I dont own a cello, why am I here
Not sure if Sony Australia really care about customers, no question here was answered since a year now.
Yeah it would be nice to hear from these guys...
@@samueljett7807 I doubt, It is just a clickbait.
Starting by the title: high-res recording? OK so what is the sample rate, what interface, what bit rate? Non of these essentials for high-res are even mentioned.
They give wrong mathematical formulas, are talking about knowing the cello wave length and so without giving any explanation even the most basic one apart placing the microphone correctly.
You'll actually learn more from for example AKG user manual that from this video.
Sorry SONY Australia, but this video does not feed the Wombat! A mic on its own will not take high-res sound - like even no such thing like "high-res mic" (a recorder that can do that)
Cello A String 440Hz
The tiny microphone is SIX HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS. No thank you.