I would like you to know, that this is one of the only videos on youtube, if not THE only video, at least that I can find, of this horseshoe pickup being demonstrated on a 4001. I would like to sincerely thank you for that. I wish there were more demonstrations of this.
This is quite amazing - in the early 80's I read an article by a Brit luthier who said that these p/ups were extremely difficult to recharge, and could only be done by one laboratory in the UK. I had no idea that it was so simple to recharge them - and for 12 months! Of course getting hold of an RM 1999 is another story these days... Congratulations on this video.
The horseshoe magnet has an absolutely beautiful sound. I wish they brought back the lines of basses that used the horseshoe pickups like the 4001C64 and 4001V63
Tatalito fabian boutique.rickenbacker.com/PICKUP-BASS-HORSESHOE_p_711.html www.lollarguitars.com/lollar-bass-pickups/horseshoe-bass I think both are horseshoe magnets, but I could be wrong.
The Re-Issue Horsies are a very different design and will not degauss. The design change is partially due to the early ones playing up and also the fact the tungsten steel required to make the magnetic shoes is very hard to get...
I expected that now they would offer to disassemble the magnetic circuit and restore the magnetic voltage in the active parts of the circuit with a real electromagnetic pulse. This is how our sound lovers update Alnico magnets in vintage speakers. The instantaneous surge of current in the coil develops a huge electromagnetic surge in the body of the magnet. Traces of magnetization persist for several decades.
They are difficult to recharge correctly. This method is simple but the results only last for a year at the most. I believe almost every Horseshoe is different and some will hold their charge for years and then there are some like this one...
Excellent. Just found this vid. You could also pull the old horseshoe and replace it with a modern Ric bridge pickup. Keep the old one though for when it's time to sell/trade.
The modern horseshoe is louder but there is some similarities in the sound. The bass cut capacitor is vital to get the classic sound out of a modern horse..
Fedowicz not at all, the re-issue horseshoe is a different design and the magnets are inside the coil. The shoes do effect the sound but are not vital on the re-issue pickups..
So the Horseshoes off the Rickenbacker Boutique sight maintain themselves quite nicely you say- requiring no need of a re-charge? I've always wanted to exterminate the plastic bridge pup cover.
I thought the ones from the site didn't have "charged shoes" and that the shoes were for show. I read that on Talkbass a while ago so that may be false
I have installed a reish hs on my 4001 1979, but the tone it gives is quite different to chris squire, the new hs are louder the dc impedance is about 10k, the tone is more simillar to the hi gain with lots of 800Hz signal, thats what the older ones dont have, their sound is mostly like iiiiiiii with the bass and newer ones are more like naaaaaaa. Jajaja i cant explain it any better. Im thibking in rewind it to a lower impedance.
+TheEmac70 It has the 4.7nF installed, its a matter of the pickups captation. Ive been told that the old hs has a dc impedance of about 7K vs the 10K ive meassured.
Armando, you'll NEVER get the same sound on a reissue..I own 4 ricks...Same problem...you need a VINTAGE horseshoe (magnetized horseshoe), check Lollar pickups www.lollarguitars.com/lollar-bass-pickups/horseshoe-bass
I would like you to know, that this is one of the only videos on youtube, if not THE only video, at least that I can find, of this horseshoe pickup being demonstrated on a 4001. I would like to sincerely thank you for that. I wish there were more demonstrations of this.
This is quite amazing - in the early 80's I read an article by a Brit luthier who said that these p/ups were extremely difficult to recharge, and could only be done by one laboratory in the UK. I had no idea that it was so simple to recharge them - and for 12 months!
Of course getting hold of an RM 1999 is another story these days... Congratulations on this video.
The horseshoe magnet has an absolutely beautiful sound. I wish they brought back the lines of basses that used the horseshoe pickups like the 4001C64 and 4001V63
you can get one from Lollar (search Lollar Horseshoe) but is a 600$ pickup. :-(
Fedowicz I mean RIC sells them for 200 still
check Lollar website...they made the MAGNETIC horseshoe, 7,4 k (I own one)
@@McOuroborosBurger you can get a re issue from Rick but not a MAGNETIC horseshoe, the ONLY one making the real magnetic horseshoe is Lollar.
Tatalito fabian
boutique.rickenbacker.com/PICKUP-BASS-HORSESHOE_p_711.html
www.lollarguitars.com/lollar-bass-pickups/horseshoe-bass
I think both are horseshoe magnets, but I could be wrong.
The Re-Issue Horsies are a very different design and will not degauss. The design change is partially due to the early ones playing up and also the fact the tungsten steel required to make the magnetic shoes is very hard to get...
No, the Thunderbird pickup is a different layout inside. I think it would need to be taken apart to regauss it. Best left to a pickup specialist...
I expected that now they would offer to disassemble the magnetic circuit and restore the magnetic voltage in the active parts of the circuit with a real electromagnetic pulse. This is how our sound lovers update Alnico magnets in vintage speakers. The instantaneous surge of current in the coil develops a huge electromagnetic surge in the body of the magnet. Traces of magnetization persist for several decades.
They are difficult to recharge correctly. This method is simple but the results only last for a year at the most.
I believe almost every Horseshoe is different and some will hold their charge for years and then there are some like this one...
put Dimarzio jazz singlecoil in bridge position, vintage 1972 pick up..... nice Ricko sound...... pull all the best from wood
Would you be so kind as to share what output readings you are getting from your pickups? What dc resistances should I look for when selecting pickups?
Excellent. Just found this vid. You could also pull the old horseshoe and replace it with a modern Ric bridge pickup. Keep the old one though for when it's time to sell/trade.
Yes a modern Rickenbacker pickup will fit..
Different tone though
pull out the old pickup ??? the old horseshoe pickup has the REAL rick sound.
could I regauss an old gibson thunderbird pickup by puting a neodymium magnet on it? Thank You!
Does the same happen to re-issue horseshoes? And how long do they last?
I have a question, which side should be north or south. South on the neck pickup side facing the bridge,
north on the bridge side facing the neck?
I'll get back to you about that..
@@TheEmac70 Ok thank you so much! I just got a 67 4001s and its treble pickup, definitely needs some love XD
Would you happen to know how it compare to the modern stock pups?
Modern Rickenbacker pickups have a much stronger output with a heavy mid focus.
Do the reissue horseshoe pickups have magnetized shoes? I read somewhere that the shoes aren't magnetized and that they sound different
The modern horseshoe is louder but there is some similarities in the sound. The bass cut capacitor is vital to get the classic sound out of a modern horse..
no. at the reissue is just a "cover".
I want your rick RM ! ;-)
Does this happen with the 2000s Rickenbacker? Like the C64
Fedowicz not at all, the re-issue horseshoe is a different design and the magnets are inside the coil. The shoes do effect the sound but are not vital on the re-issue pickups..
I don't know if you've answered this question but will the pickup still work if the shoes are off?
Larry Russell
No, the original ones need the shoes. Re-issue ones can be removed..
no horseshoe = no magnet , you can't remove the cover.
So the Horseshoes off the Rickenbacker Boutique sight maintain themselves quite nicely you say- requiring no need of a re-charge? I've always wanted to exterminate the plastic bridge pup cover.
I thought the ones from the site didn't have "charged shoes" and that the shoes were for show. I read that on Talkbass a while ago so that may be false
I have installed a reish hs on my 4001 1979, but the tone it gives is quite different to chris squire, the new hs are louder the dc impedance is about 10k, the tone is more simillar to the hi gain with lots of 800Hz signal, thats what the older ones dont have, their sound is mostly like iiiiiiii with the bass and newer ones are more like naaaaaaa. Jajaja i cant explain it any better. Im thibking in rewind it to a lower impedance.
Before you mess with it, be sure to have the bass cut capacitor in place. It is a big help in getting that old sound..
+TheEmac70 It has the 4.7nF installed, its a matter of the pickups captation. Ive been told that the old hs has a dc impedance of about 7K vs the 10K ive meassured.
@@armandoleantesanabria8355 did it work?
@@illuminatibraincontrol It got closer, but is not that easy...
Armando, you'll NEVER get the same sound on a reissue..I own 4 ricks...Same problem...you need a VINTAGE horseshoe (magnetized horseshoe), check Lollar pickups www.lollarguitars.com/lollar-bass-pickups/horseshoe-bass
What's your strings please ?
Dean Markley Blue Steel if I remember correctly...
Thanks !
@@TheEmac70 Flatwound or roundwound?
Chris Squire's got degaussed and I wish he had seen this somehow in the seventies.... ha ha ha
The 1101 Experiment but the degauss gives it its beautiful sound.