Troubleshooting Inverter Generator Will Not Start - FIXED Fugi Micro
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- I picked up this used inverter generator. Was told the only issue was a dirty carburetor, but it would run on partial choke. Could not get it started. Cleaned carburetor and confirmed spark. It needed a long list of things to run again. Unfortunately parts are almost impossible to get for this. I probably could of split this into several videos. Here is what was wrong:
- Broken recoil
- Broken recoil rope
- Tight valves
- Broken compression release
- Broken primer bulb
- Bad fuel
- Clogged carburetor
- Broken spark plug boot
- Missing rubber foot
- Broken choke lever
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I must say , you are the most patient, calm spoken trouble shooting genius I have ever watched yet. I repair many machines and you have shown me so much in two of your videos I have so far watched . Thank You. SUBSCRIBED
Yes' he is not full of himself,he sounds very humble to me!
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I totally agree John.
You have the patience of a saint, that cord break wouldve been the end of me, especially with those generators.
Goodness me... When they were serving out PATIENCE you certainly received more than your fair share sir...
I would have hit that thing so many times with a sledge, that a gentle breeze would have blown the dust away.
Indeed, patience is a virtue. As I get older, 73, I find I run out of it quickly, lol
I would have hurt myself, seeing how far I could throw it for distance.
@@tonym6920 Me too at 76 !!!
@@glaucouswingedgull A 2 handed shot put throw!...lol
Incredible patience. That was one excellent feat to get that little guy back in business. Hats off to you.
Wow! That is such an intricate, complex machine. It's got such a powerful engine to be so small; because it's not limited to only running at synchronous RPM. What is the common tragedy with many Chinese products is that all that intricate engineering goes to waste when the first small problem happens when you can't get parts.
You've done a great job getting it going.
This is just what is needed for partial rv backup. Operates the ac and stuff perfectly. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y is quieter than my rv generator. Only suggestion is that it needs a fuel shutoff valve. So it is easier to store.
Excellent, this helps me a lot I have a Clarke 2.2 Kw Inverter Generator (Model IG2200) another clone ! But now I know possible causes of malefaction . I admire your tenacity and patience ! Thank you
Man you have some patience. When seeing how hard it was to pull, I was like, that large red handle is the perfect tie point for an anchor rope.
Gotta say, your the man! Been binging every night now, for 4 days. I felt your pain on this one.
That’s a carbon resister to cut down RF interference. Take it out and use a resistance type spark plug.
Lot of work being applied to this small generator to get it running. Working at an hourly rate, it would have cost more to fix it, than to maybe replace it with another running used one, but like you, I have a soft heart, and hate to see things not working, if it is possible to repair, and get it running. I guess it's the challenge of not letting the devise get the better of me and defeat me, and what I am able to do. Well done....
Your patience and persistence are admirable. Thanks for sharing this video. I learned a lot.
You have much more patience than I do. That thing is a Rubic puzzle to get apart. I think I would have taken to it with an axe after about the third pull apart but well done for your persistence.
I found this exact same generator in a dumpster a couple years ago . It looked to be in good shape so i grabbed it . It took a lot to get it running as well . But you were lucky . This one had a plastic fuel tank . The one i have is metal and was completely rusted out . The rust and old fuel ruined the fuel pump and the primer completely fell apart . I ended up mcgyvering it together . I took out the old fuel tank completely and tossed it in the trash . I used a vaccum diaphram fuel pump from a riding lawn mower and used a 3 gallon outboard boat motor fuel tank with hose and primer bulb with a set of johnson/evenrude fuel fittings . Also, the carb is the same as the ones on honda gx160 motors . Just have to swap out the butterfly and shaft . I had the same issue with the pull start as well . Its the gx 160 pull start housing
Very nice
Thank goodness for James Condon videos hahaha!
Working on a Honeywell 2000i Inverter Generator for my channel, and here you have one that I can watch for the fix.
Full of stale fuel (man it stinks), fuel left in the "ON" position... Will not start. I'm kinda concerned about the fuel bowl, it's gonna be a mess I betcha!
Now to watch your video so I can be prepared for any kind of surprises hahha!
I’ve been watching your videos for a while now, I have a sawa Fuji 1000 inverter generator
I bought it under similar circumstances.
But luckily it runs a genuine Honda fifty .
The pulse pump gave me a real hard schooling
Had it to pieces thinking it was a carb issue
The fact that it needs a decent amount of fuel in tank
And primed using starting fluid did the trick for me , runs really lovely now .
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos they have genuinely helped me
Thanks.
James you did it again. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge about generator's.
I already got my Generac GP6500e humming like a bee now I'm in search for an inverter generator.
Thanks Mr. C
Thank you
I am amazed, you are one tuff fellow. I enjoyed every minute of your trouble shooting. Keep the videos coming. I am so glad you did not give up on that generator. Their are great lessons to be learned from your tenacity. You set a positive example you all people who watch you.
Dale
He's so calm. I would have been yelling and swearing 3000 times throughout this process haha.
That hard to pull I'm betting the valves are wrong. What I've learned from this man is that even the valve clearance can cause this.
Edit: yep just got to the clearance check.
One thing I'm learning is that the clearance tightens over time so even at your first adjustment for maintance around 300 hours set it to the high side. Though mine calls for .003-.004 so not much room to play anyway
Thanks for sharing James.
You should really feel proud of yourself. You did a great job.
The peice in the sparkplug boot is most likely a noise suppressor, electrical noise not auduble noise.
Those HONDA Clone engines the valve adjustment is .006 intake and .008 exhaust
For OHV engines .003 is a safe number for both valves
This is why iqui2 buying Chinese JUNK
last purchase was a 3, 000 inverter generator just like this, except it was black.
Fired up first pull and ran for 6 hours.
Stopped making electricity. Got it to run again, but poorly.
Took it to the service center.
Generator part was in need of replacement.
ANOTHER 500 bucks.
I spent 600 for it.
A Honda was 2 grand.
I bought a HONDA.
GOODBYE China.
You've gotten over on me for the last time.
if you think your not buying China products because its got a Honda sticker on it then all the power to ya but its funny how the Honda pull start cover was IDENTICAL lol
@@danhard8440 - Maybe because the Chinese one is an exact duplicate of the Honda. That's what the Chinese are good at. Making inferior but exact copies of the brand names.
that little slug is a resistor for radio noise suppression 4k ~ ect but also a lot of spark plugs have these inbuilt so can test by meter measure top connector to the center electrode, anything above 20k or so will start to give a weaker spark ,have found some old plugs 40k + so its worth testing
its a resistor for spark noise interferance on things that use an antenna so you dont hear it in the audio..so i think, its used that way in car plugs. just go solid get small spring from like a pen put in behind there it be fine you can just get a cooler plug if you wanted
I was going to buy one of these. Thanks! I already had the 'fun' of fixing the recoil on a simple 2 stroke. Sod having to do all of that to get to it lol. Looks like these things put the Shit in a SHTF situation.
Patience of Job! Persistance pays off. Maybe there was a silicon washer in behind that rivet on the compression release mechanism at some point. You might be able to split one and fit it in around the rivet. Just a guess, as I have no experience with this type of thing. Nice job.
Thanks
Great video as usual. Keep them coming.
Great job 👏
Shout out from Australia!
31:52 spark plug resistor. some spark plugs have those built in, this one requires a external resistor.
Small snap ring to take up clearance on compression release
what do u use in the carburetor cleaner? Unless you can work on your/purchased equipment you begin to understand why there is lots of this stuff floating around usually after its had a wrench turned on it, great videos
Excellent video thank you Sir!
I have an older Predator 2500 inverter that runs beautifully but doesn't power the 110v outlet. I replaced the outlet with a household outlet and it worked on a small appliance. i started it later and it didn't work again. Any suggestions?
I would have smashed it to bits with a sledge half way though this battle.
I would search same horsepower Loncin landmotor recoil starter unit for some reason they are much better quality than the original inverter recoil starters. Some fitting needed (the holes had to be extended 1-2 mm, the original had three holes and landmotor starter five holes) to to my Kipor 2000i but it worked much better than original. And always change the original low quality china spark plug to good quality ngk spark plug.
great video! cleaner do you use and what mix ratio?
Harbor Freight Super Heavy Duty Degreaser. About 90% water 10% degreaser.
Red gas is really old gas, the ethanol has evaporated out of it. Its only useful for me as a solvent to wash stuff with. I wouldn't pour it into any gas tank.
A badly worn starter cord can be a sign of a hard starting engine.
Yes, this was the worst.
great job thanks have fun
Great job
Are you using your torque wrench as a power bar?
I know right, don't undo fasteners with a torque wrench, it's not designed for that
It is a piece of carbon to reduce EFI radio interference. Just dump that crap and put in an R type plug and a bayonet type connector on the coil wire if you need to.
piece missing on spark plug socket is probably a spring
What solution do you use for the carburetors?
Btw just picked up a Camping-Mate 2000w digital generator for $40
That is ignition resistance diode that a generator uses a resistance for the ignition system
This one is almost to painful to watch. For me it would of become my spring and fall door stop.
I have one of those generators, the problem with mine is that it doesn't pick up when the load increases and the thing stalls. It is less likely to stall with some load but if the load comes and goes like a fridge for example it stalls. It's a damn nuisance. But that was an interesting video
It’s too bad parts are so hard to come by for this generator. It is a nice machine. If you are lucky the servo motor on the carb is bad, throttle plate is stuck or the servo wire is disconnected. Does the engine speed change when you hit the eco switch? The carb with servo is one of the few parts available.
Have had a proper look at the carbi, the servo seems to be working ok, it tries to stop it stalling, air filter is clear but it only keeps going with some choke so I am wondering if the idling jet is blocked as in your model. Will have to pull off carbi and check the innards.
OZ Camper Travels yes, most likely a clogged jet.
@0 mins in... cord ripping out of hand?? sheared flywheel key. first thing i though as it ripped the cord out of your hand.
Could you have pressed the rivet the compression release mechanism was mounted on into the timing wheel further to tighten up the gap? Something about that wire fix makes me uncomfortable.
Yes, with the proper equipment that would have worked (I think). Ideally a new part would have been a lot better.
Me too especially all trouble required to get to it.😎 especially during a flood or hurricane! A++ for your patience and rigging! Love your videos .. you are the best!😄😄
Looks 👀 like someone put to much Stabilizer in the gas ⛽️
i have the same , brand is from eurom
I don't know why but it seems like you should have done a pre check before you put everything back together he should have put some fuel in the spark local used a drill fired it off if it starts then you can go back and put the stuff back together if it doesn't you're just wasting your time opening and closing the whole entire unit
What a pain in the ass that generator..!!
You shouldn't have bought a new pull-cord assembly till you found out if the engine would even run --- you didn't need the assembly to spin the engine over; you could have used an electric drill with a large socket-wrench chucked up into it; that's what the big nut on the flywheel is for.
True. Have done that before, but this pull-cord was not very expensive.
Dem shoes babe. 😎
Get yourself a table / bench to work on, take it from me, 10 years from now you will regret every second you spend working on the floor today.
posted that at literally 19 minutes in, minute later its on the bench, but seriously, after the initial it won't start, move it up to a comfortable level.
Same here James, I'll be 60 next month and can tell you, save your knees man. strap that thing to your bench with a ratcheting tiedown and save yourself some grief. :)
Totally agree. Save the joints and work comfortably too.
I was about to say the same thing.
Great job 👏
32'' the Peace with 4000Ohm is a noise reduction for radio interverence...so your neighbor doesnt loos picture in the TV when you run ya generator....
James, you get an A+++ for determination, patience and just clear thinking. A real tour de force in sleuthing out issues. Congratulations.
Either you get a good one or you get a unit filled with trouble one way or the other so you take a chance when you buy a used or factory unit that for some reason is troublesome for some reason or another had a Honda small one that you couldn’t kill until let a neighbor use it ! Used it for years cleared about 6 building lots of trees till lending it out gas into oil then oil into gas killed it !
Gas looks like they used "Storage Fuel Stabilizer" that's red in color.
That or its tax free gasoline..dyed for off road use only..but yes most likely a fuel stabilizer..
@@agentcovert i don’t think they make tax free gas, i know of offroad diesel/ heating fuel, but never gasoline
@@skonky They do, but it is not generally sold at a pump. You need to go to a 'fuel depot' to get it. Off Road gas, or Farm use gas.
The little slug in the spark plug cap is a radio interference suppressor /resistor, they often have a small coil spring behind them to ensure a good contact. The brass part has a type of R clip to make a good connection with the threaded end of the spark
plug. A lot of engines now use that type of connector.
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Sweet! Nice job but I'm really wondering how long it will take to wear through that wire and it fall in the engine. It works well tho. :)
I was thinking of the same thing!
Weld it in place,remove the wire.
31:45 Its a resistor to supress electro magnetic fields created by the coil. Those EM fields could potentially disturb electronic devices near the generator.
Sometimes these resistors are built into the spark plug boot. Sometimes theyre built into the spark plug itself.
I now see why people throw these things away as soon as they quit working.
Inexpensive generators are disposable generators because it can cost more to repair than they are worth but James seems to enjoy this as a hobby. He is saving landfills. :-)
I made the mistake of buying these knockoffs, one a Dometic 3000 and a Honeywell 2000 . Both are throw away units as there are almost no parts available for them. Stick to Honda or Yamaha inverters and save yourself .
It was funny to see the pull cord guide come out with the cord. You can’t buy that item without buying the complete rewind and guide for $243.50 US. I bough a Honda one for $10.00 cdn. Best advice, buy only those with a parts supply.
Hi, James. Just found this old vid. I'm sorry it hurt you. I would probably have tried out some cussing at that point. Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!
What a nasty little machine. So much work just to change the plug. Starter pull not easy to use cos it's on the side not the top. Servicing would be more than the machine is worth.
The compression release problem looks like a design/manufacturing problem.
Admire your patience.
Very good update. Especially the fact that if the fuel bulb goes out, it can be taken out of the system! Great temp fix on the compression lock out!
Thanks
My garage wall would be peppered with tools and parts. You are a very patient man, James. Good job.
I am Glad to see you off your knee's and on a work bench .👍
I bought one of these generators as 'not working/scrap' from an auction.
The importer disposes of all their unservicable returns through this particular auction..Many of the power tools I have bought have been in multiples ( eg six identical angle grinders) I found that there was a back order between 4 and 7 months for spares on many of the tools. That was the main reason that they are 'scrapped'.. Hence I have to break some tools for parts to repair others.. It's a bad thing though that an importer can sell products such as these without spares being available.. They must have to honour warranties by exchanging the particular machine with a replacement.. What happens after the warranty expires ?
Very poor !
You're absolutely right, most people would have no idea how to get this machine to work and would very likely put it out for trash, nice job
I don't know why knock-off Chinese stuff is so hard to get parts for either since only a few factories make all of these brands of generators especially the Yamaha knock-off ones like "Westinghouse" (LOL) and Wen, etc. A U.S. company could make a fortune buying parts from the from the Chinese factory. You could match the parts up visually on a website for the generic parts and not even have to fuss about model numbers and all that crap.
This video was more painful than my 1st divorce.
how many divorces have you had?
0 but it sounded funny
The name brand version pull starts like a 4 stroke weed wacker, zero effort, this one probably did too originally, just saying a 2 hp motor should pull easy.
You saw it had a busted compression release, that he fixed by rigging. The compression release is what makes it easy to turn over, if its not functioning properly its gonna be tough. He said parts were very hard to find. Unless he wants to buy my engine out of my honeywell...
@@Mr_Tecumseh I think I didn't come across clear, I'm not crapping on knockoffs, or trying to suggest the real McCoy is easier to start, or ignoring the existence of automatic compression releases just stating that any time a motor that small is hard enough to start that it breaks multiple cords (the one on it was allready replaced) further investigation is warranted, sooner than later.
@@gregdawson1909 Perfectly clear, and in the video he made, it was discovered and he repaired it as best as he could without parts available. He took it back apart right after it ripped it out of his hand and observed the compression release was not functioning properly, how much faster can you be about looking into it? Now were just going in circles, because were basically both saying the same thing we did the first time over again.
That was a amazing display of patience and persistence! I wonder how many repair shops could have got it going. Another Great Video!
Another success of knowkedge+patience, yours of course! Looking at so many electronics packed up into the small boxlet together with hot cylinder does not bode well for a long, happy life... High congrats again as you packed them all with without leaving certain parts without an address! Thanks also for a perfect engineering language - many of us ME and EE could learn from you...
That was a good fix! I probably would have thrown it a few times, but you held your cool. Nice!!
I can’t believe you had the patience to keep fooling with that thing.
I think he likes generators because many of his videos is about them. :)
Congratulations James. Some would say it isn't worth the bother. But we must be a like because it kept testing me. Your inventor's spirit is inspiring the pressure release was a good example.
Love the videos. I appreciate you fixing all of these machines and keeping them out of the landfill. I wish you were near me, I would pick up a couple of your repaired units if I could!
Thanks
Not expecting a response I’ve bought a Fuji F5200RI and it runs no issues then it randomly switches into overload and turns off. Any help man?
The OHC head looks exactely like my Honda CB50 engine. It is working on a small motorcycle.
Because of only 50 ccm it has no compression release. It was made 1978.
I like OHC engines. They are very robust in overturning and 10000 rpm is not a problem.
At my Honda everything outside of the engine is made of metal and not plastics and still works
after 45 years ! Okay... Fuel hoses and carburator connection was made of rubber...
Hi James, I really loved your video on the generator and picked up some clues where to look why mine isn't starting. Haven't yet kicked a goal though. Thank you for the great effort filming it all. :-)
some spark plugs have this resister built in the plug number will have an R in its part number.
Nice job. It’s such a great feeling of satisfaction repairing these inverters, generators.
I learned a lot with this one. Wish parts were available. It would have made a better repair. But sometimes just gotta work with what you have.
You have a lot of patience. I was swearing several times specifically when it pulled back your hand. Great job though. I also believe fixing is much more satisfying than throwing good products. Manufacturers although make parts these days unobtainable which should change.
It would have been an easy fix if parts were available.
@@jcondon1 , I can't help believing that these parts must be interchangeable and that the information is just not available. It really doesn't make sense to me why manufacturers would not use supplies of parts already on the market and used by other companies. There seems to be a high commonality with all these machines and telltale stampings abound, but no info is available on Google. There are parts companies that only sell to dealers, like STENS and some others and I wonder if they have better catalogs and manuals than we have. You proved that when you got the Honda recoil that fit your unit. I remember auto parts catalogs that omitted part numbers for certain cars so you had to go to the dealer. This is the same kind of nonsense but everyone loses.
You did a great job and I'm glad you succeeded. I absolutely hate throwing things out. To me, it's like a sick patient that needs some help. Thank you for helping.
@@jcondon1 Makes me appreciate my (recoil accessible with only a few screws removed) Honda Ex1000 generator that much more. I rewound the recoil start spring on my honda using several tie wraps, put the spring in place, and then gently cut the tie wraps and it worked. Tie wraps are good..
Thanks for sharing! Just started work on an xg-sf2000 that came as a pile of parts - good to know where the inverter goes and that it's missing 😅.
Anyone know if a kipor ig2000 (DU20) inverter module would fit? They look very similar, and exist.
An excellent video, I watched it and loved it. You seem to find a solution to everything! Myself, I own the same inverter just the brand is different it’s called King Canada. I dismantled it the same way like you the fuel shut off and the prime bulb broke. Couldn’t find any replacement parts. I end up making an alternative solution which worked out great but I still can’t get it to start. On your fuel pump do you have 4 hoses connected? I just can’t get another fuel pump anywhere it seems like all inverters have fuel pump with only 3 hoses connected. Do you why? I think replacing some of the fuel lines I might have mixed up the locations. Anyway, thanks again for the video makes me feel I’m not alone breaking my head getting things to work instead of throwing them away 👍
Bluddy 'ell, al that just to get the pull start off. You have more patience than I, James........😁
I've learned a lot about these little engines with your videos. Thanks a lot!
You take junk and turn it into “NIB”!
I guess it's a little carbon slug that acts like the resistor that's installed in some variants of sparkplug as a means to reduce RFI
Admire your determination,i would have thrown that thing in the bin ages ago out of frustration.
Yes, was not a fun one.
Super interesting. I could watch you working on these all day. If you would find a Honda EU 2000i not working, it would be awesome seeing you troubleshooting it. I have one and it does not start
I hope they paid you to take it. 🤣🤣 Seriously I really enjoy your videos. I have started to find Gen and repair them due to your inspiration….Thanks again