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Does that me he committed suicide? All the politically correct language to say something everybody knows with other words is stupid. We have words and language with definitions for a reason.
@@jenniferwhitewolf3784 Seriously? It has nothing to do with political correctness and more to do with tact, decency and respect. There are absolutely occasions where a more tactful approach is required.
@@munkygrip1977 Tact, decency, and respect are dishonest and subvert the narrative. He was mentally ill and killed himself. The issue is the lack of honesty about mental illness in the world, and the continued stigmatization about being diagnosed and discussed in that situation.
@@Rand_al_Thor372 Holy shit, THE Dragon reborn responded? I'm not worthy! Yeah, my parents were huge metalheads. I actually got to see Metallica 2 years before that at the age of 8. It was my first concert. I head banged the whole time. I couldn't move my head for a week hahahaha. It was amazing. I've been to hundreds of concerts since. I will tell ya though... Nine Inch Nails live was like a religious experience and it held up. The best live show in my older years now though? Ghost. Perfect playing, great theatrics, beautiful stage sets, amazing crowd connection. Sorry to everyone else for getting off topic. Raise your Heron Marked Blade in the air my dude.
I was at Soundgarden's second to last concert in Kansas City; my friend from England messaged me at 2am to let me know that news had broke of his death. I've been obsessed with his music since I was a kid =(
It most certainly was. I saw it on twitter and just went numb. Soundgarden is one of my all time favorite bands, and Chris Cornell is one of my all time favorite vocalists. Few in the history of rock could match his talent. "The Voice" as he was known.
I saw the man live, he and an acoustic guitar only, at Uptown Theatre in Napa...phenomenal performance! There will be an Epiphone version of this guitar about $650 in the very near future... I will buy one!
I just think the internet amplifies the butt-hurt bubble blowing babies that would have been beaten senseless by every able-bodied patron in the bar if they actually talked like that in public.
I hate when people say Audioslave was just Rage Against the Machine. Aside from the band mates the sound they produced was different. That first album Audioslave put out in an underated gem.
Just saw this for the first time. This is a an absolutely fantastic demo. I literally shines a whole new light on FIltertrons and semi-hollow guitars for me. I love both, but I have never seen either applied quite this way. Your love for Cornell's work really comes out.
The reason they don't cleanup the pickup cavities is because on a semi-hollow there is a chance that that material will get caught inside one of the hollow chambers and is very difficult to get out, if I can find it there is a video of the process they use to make ES-335's and 339's i will link it later...
@@watkinscopicat That is true...As a professional repair tech I have seen LOTS of expensive Fenders with cavities full of sawdust and debris... Nothing my Shopvac won't cure but at this price this shouldn't be there...
One of my absolute favorites, flawless record throughout. Chris Cornell was known for his voice, but his songwriting ability is almost better than that. Songs like Moonchild and Flutter Girl with their brilliant chord progressions...
Austin I've been watching since"The carpet days". I want to thank you.all the time and money and emotional investment you have put in documenting all of these instruments is going to go down in history once all of us are gone somebody could possibly use these videos as reference points. You're doing a good thing
The finish droplets around the head stock is caused by 1 of 3 things. The person who sprayed it was standing to far from the guitar and the aerosol dried a little before hitting the surface (common) or the person didn't clean the head of their spray gun (also common). And finally not cleaning the surface (common as well). If I had to guess I would say someone got lazy cleaning the nozzle of the spray gun since it is localized to one area. As for the tearing on the inside you said was common to see, it happens because as they cut sideways they are cutting across the grain, if you do it too fast then that is the result. They just need to slow down the machine that cuts the pickup pockets and stop trying to do it in one pass. Tear out with a router bit is pretty common and a lot of people have issues when they first use a router. I made a cord for mine that has a dimmer that acts as a voltage increase to control how fast it spins, most modern routers have that feature but mine is a router from the 1950's and is why mine didn't have it. Cool guitar, I like the color, gives it an old Army motorcycle look. It just screams military with that color.
I don't normally comment on your videos Trogly, but I'm so glad you're looking at the Chris Cornell sig. I'm a massive Soundgarden and Chris Cornell fan, in fact it's why I play guitar. Filtertron style pups are great for rock tones, I feel like they're so underutilized in that context. Thanks!
FWIW: an approximation of the black one can be done without too much difficulty: there are Nashville-built Satin ES-335s available for $2600 (though it looks like only some retailers have black, and it's not on the website anymore), and a pair of Lollartrons can be bought new for about $370.
Great review. Ever thought of working for Gibson. You should inquire for the Q.C. department and research and development. You would be a great asset to the Gibson brand,just saying.😷✌️👍
I've been toying with the idea of adding a B5 Bigsby and a Vibramate kit to my SG Standard, not to actually use the Bigby, but just to help prevent neck dive.
Did you ever end up adding a Bigsby to your SG? I did this to my Edwards SG copy, and actually wasn't as happy with the tuning stability (SG's thin neck joint?) than i was when i added a bigsby copy to a Casino Coupe.
the sound character on this guitar is amazing. that sly hollow bark in the bridge, and beefy warmth in the neck… wow. this should have been a big production run!!! what a guitar.
Fun Fact: The heat press machine that Gibson uses to bend and form the wood to make the sides of the ES 335 body, (half the body) can do a piece of wood wide enough that once it's formed they can take it over to the band saw and get 4 sides, enough to make 2 guitars. That heat press machine is the SAME one that Gibson has used ever since the ES 335 first started being made in the 1950's!! So while they are now being made in Tennessee, it's still the same machine that they used in Memphis AND in Kalamazoo!! I do not like that color choice but for some reason I wouldn't mind having one lol. I don't know anything about Cornell other than he is 1 of the 6 original grunge lead singers of which only 1 of them is still alive, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam. I remember back in the early 90's when other rockers would talk about grunge and they couldn't understand why people wanted to listen to such depressing music and one guy actually said he won't be surprised at all when he hears that one of those guys ended up committing suicide because if the music was any indication as to their mental health condition, it's just a matter of time before one of them does it. Then about 2 weeks later Kurt Cobain killed himself! I like the clear knobs but since I am constantly playing with my volume and tone knobs when I am playing I hate not having numbers on the knob. I have a guitar that uses those knurled knobs without numbers and it's annoying!!
Radiohead is my favourite band, alongside PFloyd, and i totally get what you're saying about depressing music. Even i can't listen to some RH songs anymore, the sadness geta you more and more with age!
This might be a stupid question, but how would you replace a bad pot on a semi-hollow? I’ve never had one, and saw that there was no backplate. Thanks!
Trogly, do you dislike the Bigsby's mainly because of the "tuning issues" you've encountered or is it more than that? If so there are a number of things you can do to improve the tuning stability. Overlooked most of the time is the spring. Once the spring is broken in, you'd notice a HUGE difference, when they're new they suck!! Does take time and lots of playing. Try taking out the spring put it on a solid flat cement floor, stand it up and with solid sole shoes step on it with your heel, repeat a few hundred times. Then do it again a few days later, repeat once more and ya should be good. Once broken in the spring keeps its memory and tuning is much improved. Personally I prefer the 1 1/4 inch spring, has a bit more travel and is a bit stiffer. Find it keeps the best tuning and when you're not using the Bigsby swing the arm back so it lines up with the rear strap button. This will have the arm resting on the main frame of the Bigsby, essentially locking it in place and tuning will stay perfect when in that position. Know you've said many times you're not a fan of the Bigsby. Still, if you're keeping this guitar, play around with it, practice, it is another tool that can create some great tones and makes you a better player. Cheers, thanks for another great Video.
I finally got the chance to play one of these in a local music store today. It was a black one from 2013. I loved it! But at 8k it's definitely out of my price range.
AMS made an olive drab run of the es-335 and a bunch of other models. Glossy, but if you're after that color it's a less expensive option :) Great review!
Love the sound of that body style. Had a chance to get one when I was a kid and it didn't look cool enough for me at the time. What a bone headed kid I was. 😔🤘
Being a huge Chris Cornell fan - Audioslave is one of my favourite bands and his solo carreer is spectacular - all I can say is that this guitar is a real beauty - specially with his signature on the headstock. Wish I lived in the US and had the dough to buy one of those.
My partscaster 90’s SG has a Bigsby a roller bridge, and locking tuners... the only place that might give me issues is the original nut, but I have some “grease” from Stewmac that I put in there to keep things slippery.
I'm a huge fan of Chris and Soundgarden, also Audioslave so when these came out I had to have them so I bought both the green and black one from the original "Signature" run in 2013. I still have the green one, sold the black one. These are really cool guitars with the Lollartrons giving it a unique voice. RIP Chris.
@@Wyatt42069 wow, you must be a really talented person if Brian May sucks. I’d be interested to see your groundbreaking homemade guitar design and hear your instantly recognisable playing on your uniquely indentifiable songs.
@@okiwatashi2349 Oh please, you didn't give a shit about queen before the movie came out. I know you and all the other annoying new fans think they're the best band ever, but I promise they're not even close
any connection to how this looks JUST like a Gretsch Streamliner torino green? (those have the v shaped tailpiece though, some with some without bigsby)
I really like the signature inlay on teh headstock. I think it's a groovy touch. Anyone getting worked up over that has way too much time on their hands, and probably doesn't listen to Cornell sing enough.
This video means a lot to me. Soundgarden is my favorite band and Chris was probably my favorite vocalist every. The fact that he died on my birthday ruined the whole day. I wish I could’ve seen him live. Great review
Not sure what happened with the reading on the neck pickup but could be because the strings are touching the neck pickup and reading went straight to ground
Man, I would love one of these. That color is eye catching. Mix in the filtertron PUs and a Bigsby and I'm sold. Sadly, these are too expensive for what I could justify spending. I'm a player, not a collector.
There is a Chris Cornell statue outside the MoPop (formerly EMP) museum in Seattle. Inside you can see the Woodstock Strat, Eric Claptons Brownie, and the Last Waltz Tele.
I mean if he his family signed off on the symbol being on it i dont see an issue. If anything i think its rude of fans to speak on his behalf when none of us knew him as well as his family.
His later wife has done many controversial things. One of them includes trying to stop Chris’ money going to children he had in his first marriage. Which is not something that would have happened had he been alive still.
@@soleneisconbi7302 A lotta things coulda happened if some dead would have been still alive. He wan't too worried himself though, or else he wouldn't have hung himself.
People worry about if he would have wanted his signature here or there, well guess what. If you decide to take yourself out of this world it's the last decision you ever get to make. Also to everyone reading this if you haven't made out a will do it. None of us have an expiration date.
@@BigChuck525 I think you mean everyone has an expiration date. Yea but some sort of will is important to have. Kinda why i hate the fact that zappas son cant play some of his songs because of the family.
have roller bridge on all my bigsby and vibrola guitars. no tuning problems at all. from an engineering standpoint, it's the only thing that makes sense of course. anyway, keep it up Austin. love your show
Recently bought a very slightly used Epiphone Joe Bonamasa ES-335 and the pickup pockets were super clean lol. That limited edition came with a Bigsby and I had to take it off and added a early ES-335 tailpiece that mounted it in the same place, with one Bigsby hole visible, oh well. The Epi is incredibly heavy and even after taking it off it still is over 10 pounds. IMO you need a roller bridge to make the trem work, it will rock that stock bridge. The pups sounded OK distorted but clean, hmmmm, not so much.
I believe that the Alvin Lee reissue was the "Festival" model. It has a Bigsby B7 and does not have the Fender Blender volume control. The original Alvin Lee had a TP6.
I own many guitars, and the 335s are at the top of all my collection. These guitar are a joy to play and sound so good. Not surprised that this one is as good as you described.
I remember really wanting one on the original run. What I liked about it was how he talked about the idea of him as a singer songwriter, not a guitar hero. So the model was made in that tradition.
I am a huge Soundgarden fan and I have one of these. I love the signature inlay on the headstock, it's classy and understated, and as a fan, it brings me joy to have a nod to my favorite singer with me on the headstock. The neck feels like butter, and unless you are switching guitars after every song and have a guitar tech retuning the guitar behind you, (like Chris did), the bigsby is unusable. Regarding the COA, in NO WAY would I want the name of anyone who is suing Soundgarden on anything relating to my guitar.
@@Rand_al_Thor372 I'd still rather not. She ran the foundation and has long been suspected of misusing foundation funds, and most recently was accused of fraud and misrepresentation by Soundgarden in their countersuit. Leave that sketchiness out of this beautiful guitar.
So Trogly used the phrase “scalper’s market,” referring to the fact the people scooped them up to resell. But shouldn’t the use of the word scalper be applied to anyone who buys anything with the intention of selling it down it down the road for profit, whether it’s a new signature model, or some twenty year old guitar from Reverb?
Of all the musician deaths over the last years, his affected me the most. Very sad. He wasn’t only an amazing singer, he was also an amazing song writer and great guitar player. The signature on the CoA of the new guitars is indeed tasteless. I own a green one from the first run and it sounds amazing, a total monster. Especially with high gain, the guitar just slays despite the low output pickups.
Wow only seeing this 2 years later LOL I referred to the fact that they posthumously applied his signature to the CoA. The original run CoAs were signed by him (or were at least printed with his permission, the newer ones obviously not.
Wasn't familiar with Chris Cornell before he did the Bond theme... and I thought that was Gary Moore, initially. Both sadly missed. Re UK prices on US stuff. Bear in mind, the ticket price includes import duty and VAT. You can't get a US price by just using exchange rates.
I think these are heat and I’m about as big a Cornell fan as they come. But nothing will ever come close to the pre Fender Gretsch Duo jet’s he kept. Black hole Sun, fell on black days, both recorded on the black Gretsch through a Marshall.
Careful with that axe, Eugene :). Gretsch copied Gibson's sound-block to reduce feedback by adding the trestle bracing on the 6120 (I have one in my lap as I type). FIltertrons were also not exclusive to Gretsch guitars back in the day. Lots of cross-pollination of ideas over the years, luckily for us.
@@MrScrofulous although that may be true, the "filtertron loaded hollowbody with bigsby-trope", if you will, has become very much a Gretch-thing in the past 50 or so years.
The body/horn shape is also a little bit different as compared to the 2013-v-2019 Run!
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I think that it's pretty cool 🤣
I wonder how much the black one is
You know that you can buff them out ..
Great episode. It’s fun to learn about the musicians that inspire you. Lots of fun!
the furry bottom to the cavity are because they use spiral down cut router bits so the blowout is not to the top.
"...lost his battle with depression..."
I appreciate you handling such a delicate subject with such grace, and accuracy.
Does that me he committed suicide? All the politically correct language to say something everybody knows with other words is stupid. We have words and language with definitions for a reason.
@@jenniferwhitewolf3784 No shit dude and no, being respectful of the dead is not being overly pc.
Wanted to say this too, but didn’t know how to. Well said.
@@jenniferwhitewolf3784 Seriously? It has nothing to do with political correctness and more to do with tact, decency and respect. There are absolutely occasions where a more tactful approach is required.
@@munkygrip1977 Tact, decency, and respect are dishonest and subvert the narrative. He was mentally ill and killed himself. The issue is the lack of honesty about mental illness in the world, and the continued stigmatization about being diagnosed and discussed in that situation.
Chris Cornell was arguably the best rock vocalist ever, he's at least in the top five if not top three.
The fact that he also played in those weird time signatures while singing like he did, a true master of his craft
I agree. I would put Chester first though, and Chris 2nd.
@@salvadorruiz684 You're saying Chester Bennington can sing better than Chris Cornell???
@@salvadorruiz684 lol, what the fuck? By what metric is Chester Bennington a better singer than Chris Cornell?
@@jodybriggs1075 exactly. Tbh Chester isn’t even in the top 25
One of my first concerts was Soundgarden opening for Danzig. Chris was a force of nature beyond anything in modern music. He was one of the best ever.
Great tour! I saw the last show of that tour in San Diego!
Awesome lineup
My first concert was Soundgarden opening up for Skidrow in Memphis, They both were great.
Awe man, bet that was a killer show!
The first time I saw Soundgarden was opening for Guns n Roses ~1992. They finished their set about 9 pm. GnR came onstage at 2 am.
That's like when I saw Alice In Chains open for Metallica. The old guard handing it off. Definitely blew my 10 or so year old mind.
@@Rand_al_Thor372 Holy shit, THE Dragon reborn responded? I'm not worthy!
Yeah, my parents were huge metalheads. I actually got to see Metallica 2 years before that at the age of 8. It was my first concert. I head banged the whole time. I couldn't move my head for a week hahahaha. It was amazing. I've been to hundreds of concerts since. I will tell ya though... Nine Inch Nails live was like a religious experience and it held up. The best live show in my older years now though? Ghost. Perfect playing, great theatrics, beautiful stage sets, amazing crowd connection.
Sorry to everyone else for getting off topic. Raise your Heron Marked Blade in the air my dude.
Still kills me how he thought of himself as not that good of a player, I always thought he kicked ass .
I still remember the day he died so vividly. It was surreal and so unfortunate. What a legendary vocalist RIP
I was at Soundgarden's second to last concert in Kansas City; my friend from England messaged me at 2am to let me know that news had broke of his death. I've been obsessed with his music since I was a kid =(
it was not so long ago.
Yeah, he was one of my favorites. I was really sad when he passed.
It most certainly was. I saw it on twitter and just went numb. Soundgarden is one of my all time favorite bands, and Chris Cornell is one of my all time favorite vocalists. Few in the history of rock could match his talent. "The Voice" as he was known.
I saw the man live, he and an acoustic guitar only, at Uptown Theatre in Napa...phenomenal performance! There will be an Epiphone version of this guitar about $650 in the very near future... I will buy one!
Where did you see that there's going to be an Epiphone version? I'd love to pick one up.
@@DinoJr.686 no joke. I’ve never preordered a guitar before but that would change that very fast.
R.I.P. Chris . Gone way too soon.
I kinda like the headstock inlay - unique but still subtle
maybe having it on the truss rod instead would've made fewer people upset
I just think the internet amplifies the butt-hurt bubble blowing babies that would have been beaten senseless by every able-bodied patron in the bar if they actually talked like that in public.
JonManProductions your comment has me dead 💀💀💀
I cried when I found out he died, a legend indeed!
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You just found out?
@@danielktdoranie hahahaha
@@donttalktome4696 nah, I found out the day after he died
@@donttalktome4696 nah, I found out the day after he died
I’ve played number 112/250, one of a couple that made it to Australia. It was bloody nice guitar. I kinda liked the weight and balance.
RIP Chris
I hate when people say Audioslave was just Rage Against the Machine. Aside from the band mates the sound they produced was different. That first album Audioslave put out in an underated gem.
This episode makes me cry, I miss Chris so much.
Chris Cornell, you will never be forgotten.
You killed killed the Rusty Cage intro, very good man!
Hahahaha Trogly is actually not a very good guitarist...
@@leomilani_gtr no.
@@radio7353 and he says it all the time, that's not his goal with the channel. I guess it's more of a documentation thing, right?
Just saw this for the first time. This is a an absolutely fantastic demo. I literally shines a whole new light on FIltertrons and semi-hollow guitars for me.
I love both, but I have never seen either applied quite this way. Your love for Cornell's work really comes out.
I'm in favor of the headstock since this is a tribute. As for the COA, I don't like that they used his signature.
The reason they don't cleanup the pickup cavities is because on a semi-hollow there is a chance that that material will get caught inside one of the hollow chambers and is very difficult to get out, if I can find it there is a video of the process they use to make ES-335's and 339's i will link it later...
pickup and control cavities in Fenders can also often quite rough edged
@@watkinscopicat That is true...As a professional repair tech I have seen LOTS of expensive Fenders with cavities full of sawdust and debris... Nothing my Shopvac won't cure but at this price this shouldn't be there...
Maybe they should employ some Asian luthiers at Gibson to show them how to do it?
Euphoria morning... Best album of all time.
One of my absolute favorites, flawless record throughout. Chris Cornell was known for his voice, but his songwriting ability is almost better than that. Songs like Moonchild and Flutter Girl with their brilliant chord progressions...
Austin I've been watching since"The carpet days". I want to thank you.all the time and money and emotional investment you have put in documenting all of these instruments is going to go down in history once all of us are gone somebody could possibly use these videos as reference points. You're doing a good thing
The finish droplets around the head stock is caused by 1 of 3 things. The person who sprayed it was standing to far from the guitar and the aerosol dried a little before hitting the surface (common) or the person didn't clean the head of their spray gun (also common). And finally not cleaning the surface (common as well). If I had to guess I would say someone got lazy cleaning the nozzle of the spray gun since it is localized to one area.
As for the tearing on the inside you said was common to see, it happens because as they cut sideways they are cutting across the grain, if you do it too fast then that is the result. They just need to slow down the machine that cuts the pickup pockets and stop trying to do it in one pass. Tear out with a router bit is pretty common and a lot of people have issues when they first use a router. I made a cord for mine that has a dimmer that acts as a voltage increase to control how fast it spins, most modern routers have that feature but mine is a router from the 1950's and is why mine didn't have it.
Cool guitar, I like the color, gives it an old Army motorcycle look. It just screams military with that color.
I don't hear filterton pickups often but I always love their dirty gritty driven sounds so much
I don't normally comment on your videos Trogly, but I'm so glad you're looking at the Chris Cornell sig. I'm a massive Soundgarden and Chris Cornell fan, in fact it's why I play guitar. Filtertron style pups are great for rock tones, I feel like they're so underutilized in that context. Thanks!
FWIW: an approximation of the black one can be done without too much difficulty: there are Nashville-built Satin ES-335s available for $2600 (though it looks like only some retailers have black, and it's not on the website anymore), and a pair of Lollartrons can be bought new for about $370.
Please review the Jim root jazz master and/or telecaster
Great review. Ever thought of working for Gibson. You should inquire for the Q.C. department and research and development. You would be a great asset to the Gibson brand,just saying.😷✌️👍
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That might be too big of a pay cut!
Chris was truly amazing. Haunting was an understatement ...see you on the other side...🙏
I'm not sure you want to go to his side of "the other side".
I've been toying with the idea of adding a B5 Bigsby and a Vibramate kit to my SG Standard, not to actually use the Bigby, but just to help prevent neck dive.
Same
Did you ever end up adding a Bigsby to your SG? I did this to my Edwards SG copy, and actually wasn't as happy with the tuning stability (SG's thin neck joint?) than i was when i added a bigsby copy to a Casino Coupe.
I took a factory tour of Gibson Memphis and saw an olive green one being manufactured
the sound character on this guitar is amazing. that sly hollow bark in the bridge, and beefy warmth in the neck… wow. this should have been a big production run!!! what a guitar.
Fun Fact: The heat press machine that Gibson uses to bend and form the wood to make the sides of the ES 335 body, (half the body) can do a piece of wood wide enough that once it's formed they can take it over to the band saw and get 4 sides, enough to make 2 guitars. That heat press machine is the SAME one that Gibson has used ever since the ES 335 first started being made in the 1950's!! So while they are now being made in Tennessee, it's still the same machine that they used in Memphis AND in Kalamazoo!!
I do not like that color choice but for some reason I wouldn't mind having one lol. I don't know anything about Cornell other than he is 1 of the 6 original grunge lead singers of which only 1 of them is still alive, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam. I remember back in the early 90's when other rockers would talk about grunge and they couldn't understand why people wanted to listen to such depressing music and one guy actually said he won't be surprised at all when he hears that one of those guys ended up committing suicide because if the music was any indication as to their mental health condition, it's just a matter of time before one of them does it. Then about 2 weeks later Kurt Cobain killed himself! I like the clear knobs but since I am constantly playing with my volume and tone knobs when I am playing I hate not having numbers on the knob. I have a guitar that uses those knurled knobs without numbers and it's annoying!!
Radiohead is my favourite band, alongside PFloyd, and i totally get what you're saying about depressing music. Even i can't listen to some RH songs anymore, the sadness geta you more and more with age!
This might be a stupid question, but how would you replace a bad pot on a semi-hollow? I’ve never had one, and saw that there was no backplate. Thanks!
I really like the olive finish and the Bigsby as well as the Lollar Trons. I have a set in one of my Washburn Idol guitars and they sound amazing.
Trogly, do you dislike the Bigsby's mainly because of the "tuning issues" you've encountered or is it more than that? If so there are a number of things you can do to improve the tuning stability. Overlooked most of the time is the spring. Once the spring is broken in, you'd notice a HUGE difference, when they're new they suck!! Does take time and lots of playing. Try taking out the spring put it on a solid flat cement floor, stand it up and with solid sole shoes step on it with your heel, repeat a few hundred times. Then do it again a few days later, repeat once more and ya should be good. Once broken in the spring keeps its memory and tuning is much improved. Personally I prefer the 1 1/4 inch spring, has a bit more travel and is a bit stiffer. Find it keeps the best tuning and when you're not using the Bigsby swing the arm back so it lines up with the rear strap button. This will have the arm resting on the main frame of the Bigsby, essentially locking it in place and tuning will stay perfect when in that position.
Know you've said many times you're not a fan of the Bigsby. Still, if you're keeping this guitar, play around with it, practice, it is another tool that can create some great tones and makes you a better player. Cheers, thanks for another great Video.
What combo were you using to get that tone for your spoon man rift?!! I have an es 335 and I’ve been searching for that tone!
I finally got the chance to play one of these in a local music store today. It was a black one from 2013. I loved it! But at 8k it's definitely out of my price range.
AMS made an olive drab run of the es-335 and a bunch of other models. Glossy, but if you're after that color it's a less expensive option :)
Great review!
Actually for a “filtertron” those are pretty hot at 5+k. Original filtertron typically run 4-4.5k
Love the sound of that body style. Had a chance to get one when I was a kid and it didn't look cool enough for me at the time. What a bone headed kid I was. 😔🤘
Chris cornell, one of the greats of my generation and cool guitar. RIP
Being a huge Chris Cornell fan - Audioslave is one of my favourite bands and his solo carreer is spectacular - all I can say is that this guitar is a real beauty - specially with his signature on the headstock. Wish I lived in the US and had the dough to buy one of those.
@@Rand_al_Thor372 I think you’re wrong. Look for his autograph on Google. His signature is ALSO the logo for the foundation.
Now I AM the wrong one... The foundation has a completely different logo. Check it out chrisandvickycornellfoundation.org/
My partscaster 90’s SG has a Bigsby a roller bridge, and locking tuners... the only place that might give me issues is the original nut, but I have some “grease” from Stewmac that I put in there to keep things slippery.
I'm a huge fan of Chris and Soundgarden, also Audioslave so when these came out I had to have them so I bought both the green and black one from the original "Signature" run in 2013. I still have the green one, sold the black one. These are really cool guitars with the Lollartrons giving it a unique voice. RIP Chris.
Hope all is well. What product did you use on the fretboard?
I wish Gibson mixed the 2 and had a olive drab with a stop bar tail piece instead of the bigsby.
Hi trogly! Would you ever consider reviewing a Brian May Guitar?
Brian may sucks & queen sucks
@@Wyatt42069 wow, you must be a really talented person if Brian May sucks. I’d be interested to see your groundbreaking homemade guitar design and hear your instantly recognisable playing on your uniquely indentifiable songs.
@@Wyatt42069 if that's what you think then. You dont need to tell anybody
@@Wyatt42069 XD
@@okiwatashi2349 Oh please, you didn't give a shit about queen before the movie came out. I know you and all the other annoying new fans think they're the best band ever, but I promise they're not even close
The first time I ever heard Chris Cornell was when he did the bond song for casino royale “you know my name”
any connection to how this looks JUST like a Gretsch Streamliner torino green? (those have the v shaped tailpiece though, some with some without bigsby)
I really like the signature inlay on teh headstock. I think it's a groovy touch. Anyone getting worked up over that has way too much time on their hands, and probably doesn't listen to Cornell sing enough.
i’ve gotta say, your playing demos have come a long way since I started watching
Dammit, now I REALLY want one of these..... Thanks for throwing some Soundgardenesque licks in the demo.
As a fan and definitely not trying to stir things up, I have to say I often think that the official story is lacking on many fronts.
Lucky owner of one of the black ones. Love it!
What’s the point of the thumb bleeders if there are no numbers on the knobs? That’s always bugged me about this guitar.
Decency aside his signature looks like it was made to go there. Looks like an alternate version of the crown logo that would've gone there instead.
This video means a lot to me. Soundgarden is my favorite band and Chris was probably my favorite vocalist every. The fact that he died on my birthday ruined the whole day. I wish I could’ve seen him live. Great review
Not sure what happened with the reading on the neck pickup but could be because the strings are touching the neck pickup and reading went straight to ground
Man, I would love one of these. That color is eye catching. Mix in the filtertron PUs and a Bigsby and I'm sold. Sadly, these are too expensive for what I could justify spending. I'm a player, not a collector.
Why have blood testers when the control knobs aren’t numbered?
Oh man, I wanted one of those so bad when they were released. Couldn't afford one. Superb guitar!
I have a 335 with P90 .. is the sound similar? the samples are all distorted ..
There is a Chris Cornell statue outside the MoPop (formerly EMP) museum in Seattle. Inside you can see the Woodstock Strat, Eric Claptons Brownie, and the Last Waltz Tele.
I mean if he his family signed off on the symbol being on it i dont see an issue.
If anything i think its rude of fans to speak on his behalf when none of us knew him as well as his family.
His later wife has done many controversial things. One of them includes trying to stop Chris’ money going to children he had in his first marriage. Which is not something that would have happened had he been alive still.
@@soleneisconbi7302 A lotta things coulda happened if some dead would have been still alive. He wan't too worried himself though, or else he wouldn't have hung himself.
@@UmVtCg is that what happened? Damn.. i saw him at Carolina rebellion the year before his passing and i thought that he died of overdose.
People worry about if he would have wanted his signature here or there, well guess what. If you decide to take yourself out of this world it's the last decision you ever get to make.
Also to everyone reading this if you haven't made out a will do it. None of us have an expiration date.
@@BigChuck525 I think you mean everyone has an expiration date. Yea but some sort of will is important to have. Kinda why i hate the fact that zappas son cant play some of his songs because of the family.
I’d love to see the bbking 335 on your show. I’ve always wanted to see how those electronics work
have roller bridge on all my bigsby and vibrola guitars. no tuning problems at all.
from an engineering standpoint, it's the only thing that makes sense of course.
anyway, keep it up Austin. love your show
Would be so cool to compare it with the Gretsch Panther that was supossed to be a competitor of the es 335. might sound so a like. Or what you think?
Recently bought a very slightly used Epiphone Joe Bonamasa ES-335 and the pickup pockets were super clean lol. That limited edition came with a Bigsby and I had to take it off and added a early ES-335 tailpiece that mounted it in the same place, with one Bigsby hole visible, oh well. The Epi is incredibly heavy and even after taking it off it still is over 10 pounds. IMO you need a roller bridge to make the trem work, it will rock that stock bridge. The pups sounded OK distorted but clean, hmmmm, not so much.
I believe that the Alvin Lee reissue was the "Festival" model. It has a Bigsby B7 and does not have the Fender Blender volume control. The original Alvin Lee had a TP6.
I own many guitars, and the 335s are at the top of all my collection. These guitar are a joy to play and sound so good. Not surprised that this one is as good as you described.
Thanks for the coverage on this one! No chance to see one in person so it is great to see and hear this great guitar in action on your channel.
I remember really wanting one on the original run. What I liked about it was how he talked about the idea of him as a singer songwriter, not a guitar hero. So the model was made in that tradition.
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If something in the wiring breaks how do you fix it?
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Why thumb bleeders when there are no numbers for them to point to?
He was mostly a Duo Jet player...I wonder why Gretsch never did one
That olive drab finish is better associated with that Gretsch.
I am a huge Soundgarden fan and I have one of these. I love the signature inlay on the headstock, it's classy and understated, and as a fan, it brings me joy to have a nod to my favorite singer with me on the headstock. The neck feels like butter, and unless you are switching guitars after every song and have a guitar tech retuning the guitar behind you, (like Chris did), the bigsby is unusable. Regarding the COA, in NO WAY would I want the name of anyone who is suing Soundgarden on anything relating to my guitar.
@@Rand_al_Thor372 I'd still rather not. She ran the foundation and has long been suspected of misusing foundation funds, and most recently was accused of fraud and misrepresentation by Soundgarden in their countersuit. Leave that sketchiness out of this beautiful guitar.
So Trogly used the phrase “scalper’s market,” referring to the fact the people scooped them up to resell. But shouldn’t the use of the word scalper be applied to anyone who buys anything with the intention of selling it down it down the road for profit, whether it’s a new signature model, or some twenty year old guitar from Reverb?
I love it. It reminds me of aWW2 jeep. I even prefer the clear knobs.
Great looking guitar, but the signature in the COA is proper creepy, what were they thinking?
What colour would a olive drab Gibson glow under blacklight lol. My 335 is wine red and it glows olive drab green!
Of all the musician deaths over the last years, his affected me the most. Very sad. He wasn’t only an amazing singer, he was also an amazing song writer and great guitar player.
The signature on the CoA of the new guitars is indeed tasteless.
I own a green one from the first run and it sounds amazing, a total monster. Especially with high gain, the guitar just slays despite the low output pickups.
@@Rand_al_Thor372 Sure? Because it’s also on the CoA and the case of the original run and afaik that run didn‘t have anything to with the foundation.
Wow only seeing this 2 years later LOL I referred to the fact that they posthumously applied his signature to the CoA. The original run CoAs were signed by him (or were at least printed with his permission, the newer ones obviously not.
That guitar is absolutely gorgeous, the pickups and colour are such a nice fit together.
Thank you for this demo. Chris was a very different player for sure and one of my favorites!
Wasn't familiar with Chris Cornell before he did the Bond theme... and I thought that was Gary Moore, initially. Both sadly missed.
Re UK prices on US stuff. Bear in mind, the ticket price includes import duty and VAT. You can't get a US price by just using exchange rates.
Could you do a review of the Zach myeres prs
I think these are heat and I’m about as big a Cornell fan as they come. But nothing will ever come close to the pre Fender Gretsch Duo jet’s he kept. Black hole Sun, fell on black days, both recorded on the black Gretsch through a Marshall.
as rock fans didn't have a chance to see him sing live is really sad.
I’m lucky I got to see Soundgarden live twice. 2013 and 2014
Why did Gibson start using a short neck tenon?
I concur- would love to see a stoptail on the olive drab version.
When can we see a review of the Dave Grohl 335?
Trogly, you have to bring some cool ES-335 for documenting! Man, the classic cherry ones are suck treasures!!
Really dig the es335 but always wanted one in light blue or red until seeing this guitar...so many beautiful choices for this guitar
Austin: "What makes this guitar controversial?"
Me: "well... it's basically Gibson's take on a Gretch"
Careful with that axe, Eugene :). Gretsch copied Gibson's sound-block to reduce feedback by adding the trestle bracing on the 6120 (I have one in my lap as I type). FIltertrons were also not exclusive to Gretsch guitars back in the day. Lots of cross-pollination of ideas over the years, luckily for us.
@@MrScrofulous although that may be true, the "filtertron loaded hollowbody with bigsby-trope", if you will, has become very much a Gretch-thing in the past 50 or so years.
My thoughts too
@@MrScrofulous Nice Clutch reference !!
@@rbnh9827 Pink Floyd, I believe, from Meddle, I think.
Aw you lucky dog!! I'd kill to have one of those.. Such a sweet guitar! 😍
I’m so glad you finally got a chance to do this guitar
It’s fun being early to a Trogly video
Maybe they put the signature on the head stock so it's not that easy to get them confused with original run guitars? Just a thought.
Man, I'm a huge Chris Cornell fan! I would love to have one of these, but way out of my price range.
In ‘A Star is Born’ Bradley Cooper’s character also plays an olive drab ES, and I won’t spoil the movie but it is a tragically apt choice.
I noticed that too when watching the movie 😢
Front pickup doesnt work- turns vol up on lead pickup.....
You should do a musicman stingray guitar