Ari who was hovering around rank 10 europe or so said that he constantly gets flamed by his rank 500ish pos 3 - they often don't care about the whole game, but instead see pos 4 as their personal servant.
It's almost like he didn't want to take the stacks just to spite you, what kind of alchemist doesn't want to make money? Instead he just puts more points into his stun lol. Even if you were greifing the lane there's no excuse for him to act this way. Some players just can't be helped.
yes you prove us that just ignoring him is the best way to deal with such behavior, and is it indeed just focus on your game, Ari does recommend muting and dont get distracted from ur game.
What you see in Dota is the reality in the world. Frustrated and angry people commending the weak people and reporting the one who play good. They can't judge well.
100% Even an immortal like you can learn because as you might have recognised, DotA is more of a mental game than it is about pure mechanics. It is right to skill arrow for 2 reasons, chain stun with Alchemist AIMING Abbadon is way more value and it secures range creep reliably without pushing the lane. CRUCIAL. Because you have already failed to secure your camp to fix the lane. Arrow is a skill that complements Alchem, more than starfall would. And it is recognising what skills best goes with my ally that sets up lane domination. Also, failing to bring 2 sets of sents as a support shows you aren't ready for counter dewards and winning the ward battle with the enemy. Starfall can also secure range creep, but it also pushes the wave and isn't as reliable. Abbadon is incredibly weak level 1, and that should be when he should be abused the most, just allowing him level 2 gives the lane a huge advantage, he has to prioritise using shield on ally to save from stun or he gets aimed and never has shield value, so if you can take as much HP off him as possible while he is weak, that would allow Alchem to farm more freely against Gyro. Because Alchem felt pressured and recognised this, he became stressed psychologically when the play didn't go as he planned, when stressed, players underperform and start exhibiting negative patterns of behaviour, some players will start playing too safe and not take advantages, some will start focusing on other ways to find farm, and in this case, Alchem, starts blaming as a defense mechanism. You may be able to see another way out of the problem, such as winning through other stages of the game, but Alchem seems to be a player who has won his games through domination from moment 1 because at the end of the day he is an Immortal and would also recognise things other Immortals will or will not recognise. He got where he is, by dominating moment after monent and that snowballs him to win games. Players like that end to tilt easily when they lose advantage because psychologically they suddenly feel weaker and incompetent when objectively they are not. It isn't your fault 100% but your actions was part of his lane, and he expected you to play how he perceived the lane should be played. Like you said, the best play was to mute him IMMEDIATELY the moment you recognise his negative emotions, or simply communicate, sorry, what do you want, my bad, I will do that next time. Communication is two ways, an apology isn't weakness, DotA players have too much ego but at the end of the day, anyone can become Immortal. It is like a musical instrument, practice intentionally and you will perform well. Simply because you can recognise the way out, doesn't mean you know it all, but by recognising Alchem's point of view, even if it is wrong that takes away his method of outlet if there is nothing for him to react with and you can both focus on winning the lane.
Apologizing to someone like that is the worst thing you can do. These people play way to much Dota to the point where they obsess with it and become so emotionally attached to having a rank and playing a game that they don't even realize it anymore. Once these people start achieving actually relevant things in life (if they ever manage to do that) they realize that there is no point in raging over something like Dota. Playing into their little power fantasies just makes them even more delusional. Mute them, try your best to win and go next. Don't give them any time of the day.
I feel like your assumption that he is checking your profile all the time is wrong. You would have to hover over you and open your profile, which brings you back to menu. Seems to me unlikely since he still keeps playing and it's more likely he is simply checking levels.
I checked it and a few times he checked my profile and even tipped me^^ not always but a lot :D I don't really care much what he does I just wanna show every1 how to deal with it🤝
He can't play because you didn't pick stun level 1. They can't see what you play, they only see your items, your profile etc. I picked Spectre for support I got 4 reports before minute 0 because one of them started to say report Spectre report Spectre even if my first items was sentry, wards, grenade, and Headdress. We won, I mean I won, with Guardian Greaves and Holly Locket all the items. 4 kills 21 assists 6 deaths, healing 10, fighting 9, 10k gold I didn't farm anything. And even at this comment you will see replies that I deserve report because this are the people, this is the world. They can't judge well.
Late replay, but why are you surprised you got reported? Greaves + Locket so you might as well just pick abaddon (one of the highest winrate heros), veno, warlock, treant (also super strong) etc. They literally do the job of healing just way better. There is not a single reason why you should have picked spectre except for your own entertainment. However it is fair if 4 people report you for griefing then, because your pic is annoying and/or frustrating to them since it's very far from being optimal.
How do u deal with a toxic pos 4 that dies because of bad positioning and then tps back to lane and starts stealing farm and helping you get killed? I usually just go jungle even if lvl 2, u can have the lane and be midlaner 2 but im not laning against 3 ppl
I had similar situation with my support. We were laning and I wasn't doing my best, but the lane was kinda free, even though I felt that enemies play better than I do. I told the guy that I lost way too much creeps already and my hero needs boots and 1 more level to do something while my sup was constantly pinging me and baiting to fight 1.5 screens away from creep waves. I had to mute the guy and he just left the lane, he was killing people around the map successfully but their carry was just free farming while ours just stopped farming because of my pos 4 bringing all the fights to him. It got to the point when the pos 4 ended up feeding his killstreak several times and losing. I can understand his viewpoint, but he was impatient and only thinking about himself as 15 year old mid player that loves anime a little bit too much xD
If your own teammate tips you pings you or draws weird things on the minimap on you all laning stage you think he is super chill and calm and he doesn't try to tilt you or anything else? :D
Ari who was hovering around rank 10 europe or so said that he constantly gets flamed by his rank 500ish pos 3 - they often don't care about the whole game, but instead see pos 4 as their personal servant.
Ye it's kinda weird
2k mindset tbh
It's almost like he didn't want to take the stacks just to spite you, what kind of alchemist doesn't want to make money? Instead he just puts more points into his stun lol. Even if you were greifing the lane there's no excuse for him to act this way. Some players just can't be helped.
Probably ye^^
yes you prove us that just ignoring him is the best way to deal with such behavior, and is it indeed just focus on your game, Ari does recommend muting and dont get distracted from ur game.
As a support i hate when Pos3 or Pos1 did that, i mean come on....
possibly under the influence. it's not unusual
Offlane picks Alchemist
(You know its gonna be one of those games)
Better than WK offlane
What you see in Dota is the reality in the world. Frustrated and angry people commending the weak people and reporting the one who play good. They can't judge well.
100% Even an immortal like you can learn because as you might have recognised, DotA is more of a mental game than it is about pure mechanics. It is right to skill arrow for 2 reasons, chain stun with Alchemist AIMING Abbadon is way more value and it secures range creep reliably without pushing the lane. CRUCIAL. Because you have already failed to secure your camp to fix the lane. Arrow is a skill that complements Alchem, more than starfall would. And it is recognising what skills best goes with my ally that sets up lane domination. Also, failing to bring 2 sets of sents as a support shows you aren't ready for counter dewards and winning the ward battle with the enemy. Starfall can also secure range creep, but it also pushes the wave and isn't as reliable. Abbadon is incredibly weak level 1, and that should be when he should be abused the most, just allowing him level 2 gives the lane a huge advantage, he has to prioritise using shield on ally to save from stun or he gets aimed and never has shield value, so if you can take as much HP off him as possible while he is weak, that would allow Alchem to farm more freely against Gyro. Because Alchem felt pressured and recognised this, he became stressed psychologically when the play didn't go as he planned, when stressed, players underperform and start exhibiting negative patterns of behaviour, some players will start playing too safe and not take advantages, some will start focusing on other ways to find farm, and in this case, Alchem, starts blaming as a defense mechanism. You may be able to see another way out of the problem, such as winning through other stages of the game, but Alchem seems to be a player who has won his games through domination from moment 1 because at the end of the day he is an Immortal and would also recognise things other Immortals will or will not recognise. He got where he is, by dominating moment after monent and that snowballs him to win games. Players like that end to tilt easily when they lose advantage because psychologically they suddenly feel weaker and incompetent when objectively they are not. It isn't your fault 100% but your actions was part of his lane, and he expected you to play how he perceived the lane should be played. Like you said, the best play was to mute him IMMEDIATELY the moment you recognise his negative emotions, or simply communicate, sorry, what do you want, my bad, I will do that next time. Communication is two ways, an apology isn't weakness, DotA players have too much ego but at the end of the day, anyone can become Immortal. It is like a musical instrument, practice intentionally and you will perform well. Simply because you can recognise the way out, doesn't mean you know it all, but by recognising Alchem's point of view, even if it is wrong that takes away his method of outlet if there is nothing for him to react with and you can both focus on winning the lane.
Apologizing to someone like that is the worst thing you can do. These people play way to much Dota to the point where they obsess with it and become so emotionally attached to having a rank and playing a game that they don't even realize it anymore. Once these people start achieving actually relevant things in life (if they ever manage to do that) they realize that there is no point in raging over something like Dota. Playing into their little power fantasies just makes them even more delusional. Mute them, try your best to win and go next. Don't give them any time of the day.
I feel like your assumption that he is checking your profile all the time is wrong. You would have to hover over you and open your profile, which brings you back to menu. Seems to me unlikely since he still keeps playing and it's more likely he is simply checking levels.
I checked it and a few times he checked my profile and even tipped me^^ not always but a lot :D
I don't really care much what he does I just wanna show every1 how to deal with it🤝
It is sad that those people just dont get perma banned. But hey, that would mean one less person for Valve to spend money on skins :(
finally a vid where u get info how to play from behind, but PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS stop pause play every second xD
so can you talk to him but he cant talk to you, if you mute them?
Correct but u can still see a few pings he does in game
@@5updotawithout sound and only like 3 per minute
you have to skill 2 1st arrow to secure range creep no matter what and you played well calm and nice stacks
Can secure it with starstorm too
AN immortal
He can't play because you didn't pick stun level 1. They can't see what you play, they only see your items, your profile etc. I picked Spectre for support I got 4 reports before minute 0 because one of them started to say report Spectre report Spectre even if my first items was sentry, wards, grenade, and Headdress. We won, I mean I won, with Guardian Greaves and Holly Locket all the items. 4 kills 21 assists 6 deaths, healing 10, fighting 9, 10k gold I didn't farm anything. And even at this comment you will see replies that I deserve report because this are the people, this is the world. They can't judge well.
Late replay, but why are you surprised you got reported? Greaves + Locket so you might as well just pick abaddon (one of the highest winrate heros), veno, warlock, treant (also super strong) etc. They literally do the job of healing just way better. There is not a single reason why you should have picked spectre except for your own entertainment. However it is fair if 4 people report you for griefing then, because your pic is annoying and/or frustrating to them since it's very far from being optimal.
How do u deal with a toxic pos 4 that dies because of bad positioning and then tps back to lane and starts stealing farm and helping you get killed? I usually just go jungle even if lvl 2, u can have the lane and be midlaner 2 but im not laning against 3 ppl
I had similar situation with my support. We were laning and I wasn't doing my best, but the lane was kinda free, even though I felt that enemies play better than I do. I told the guy that I lost way too much creeps already and my hero needs boots and 1 more level to do something while my sup was constantly pinging me and baiting to fight 1.5 screens away from creep waves. I had to mute the guy and he just left the lane, he was killing people around the map successfully but their carry was just free farming while ours just stopped farming because of my pos 4 bringing all the fights to him. It got to the point when the pos 4 ended up feeding his killstreak several times and losing. I can understand his viewpoint, but he was impatient and only thinking about himself as 15 year old mid player that loves anime a little bit too much xD
pls stop pausing and resuming the game/video. I feel unease watching this.
Man up chief.
lol, how is that toxic? hes literally not saying anything.
You don't need to say anything. Actions speak louder than words.
If your own teammate tips you pings you or draws weird things on the minimap on you all laning stage you think he is super chill and calm and he doesn't try to tilt you or anything else? :D