I got a kick out this actor's name since it's the same as the character Andrew Shue played the first 4 or 5 seasons of "Melrose Place". Yes, he does have an adorable face.
Adam was always such a villain. In a lot of ways, the child most like Alexis. The irony is that Gordon Thompson, who played Adam, just came out as gay a few years ago. I've thought it must have been a challenge for him on some level to play scenes like this. He's acknowledged that nobody on the series, to his knowledge, knew that he was gay and had he come out then, it would have been career ending.
I remember watching this scene and I thought how nice Blake was that he was trying to accept Steven's Lifestyle. I wonder how many Parents were able to do the same thing.
awwwwwww that was a beautiful scene for the time, remember this was early-mid 80s at the onset of the AIDS crisis. Aaron Spelling (and Norman Lear) was very daring for tv audiences back then.
This scene was actually a brilliant alternative version of "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner." Kudos to the scripters for giving us a popular show that was so far ahead of its time in some issues such as this. Very delicately handled.
I SAW A INTERVIEW YEARS AFTER DYNASTY ENDED THAT LINDA EVANS PRESSED HARD FOR THIS STORYLINE.....WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PERSON LINDA EVANS IS N THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.....THANK U LINDA.....
Luke is lovely and Blake came along way in accepting Stephen's sexuality, coming from an Older generation. People forget in the 1980s it was a more fearful/prejudice atmosphere towards gays than now days, even many actors would reject gay roles for fear of ruining their career.
Al Corley (1# Steven) told me, he was tired to play Steven as the producer/writer (because of the concervative era/viewers) have wanted him straight instead of beeing gay. He would have played Steven otherwise for longer time.
Adam and Amanda are so young and so bitter. Luke is a breath of fresh air, his sincerity and gratitude is heartwarming. In my humble opinion, he was the most genuine and likable character in the whole series.
yea i agree, Luke (Billy Campbell) definitely was more down-to-earth and level headed, especially when he tried to talk some sense into Steven, it's a shame they didn't keep him on the show another year .. he could've made for an interesting love triangle with Steven and Bart Fallmont, in the sixth season, had the producers kept him on
It was a good scene and quite realistic considering the campiness and outrageous storylines of the show during these seasons. They tried to create some character development and based the interactions between the characters by relying on their personalities. I wish there were more human scenes like these in the later seasons. There were many in the first 2 seasons but then it was just over the top threats and hateful discussions. And the writers were not very good at creating “normal” characters (= not insanely rich or powerful) and having them mingled with the Carringtons. They were either gold diggers or totally bland people. Luke was fresh and relatable. Or maybe because I was a gay kid and I liked his puppy eyes and candor.
I loved the underlined tension of this dinner party. Everyone is being cordial, but you know something little off kilter. Blake's demeanor and Adam's smugness specifically.
Adam and Amanda are "Bitter" because they didn't grow up in The Carrington Castle which they feel should have been theirs as much as it became Fallon & Steven.
@@graphiquejackOh, I didnt know it had been established that they were dating yet. I also didn't know that Amanda knew, wasn't this their first time meeting?
Amanda was actually the sympathetic sister to Fallon's disconnected one... yes Fallon and Steven were close, but she "didnt care" about who was banging her brother...she didnt have the time for it. In her own way she was just as bad as blake... maybe even worse. Amanda was making small talk and forgot for a moment who she was talking to. Aside from Krystle, I think Amanda was the "biggest supporter" Steven had
I think Amanda just made a bubbleheaded faux pas and it wasn't a personal jab at Steven. Adam's especially girls comment was definitely a jab though...
Must not be in movie only, that young gay life gets perfect. I am 56 now and grew up in the 80ies with my granny because my mother died when i was 12 years old. And i grew up as a young gay teenager in a 45.000 inhabitants city and not in NYC or Berlin, London... But!!! and that is the most important fact before all other circumstances, i had a wonderful, lovely, heartwarming, tolerant, modern and fantastic old granny who accepted me how i was. She said only, i knew that you are gay long time ago but you are my grandson and i love you. That was all. And later my friend was also integrated in our family like a 2nd grandson of her. I had a wonderful coming out time at home. Thank you very much granny. R.I.P. 💖
Adam should cut Luke some slack. They both had to work their way in life. They didn't have A Silver Spoon in their Mouth. Adam waited Tables while at Yale and Luke was a Copyboy nothing wrong with that.
Luke is gorgeous 😍 he has nice attitude. Gay people are humans, too ! They love each other just like straight people. Steven and Luke is a nice gay couple. Live for yourself because it's your life. You have all your life to live, all your love to give. Come on Adam, you are gay yourself in real life so WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE 😂 Stop making fun of other people & Be sweet, my Darling !
Just kind of imagining myself as a dinner guest there.... “I hear you are originally from Alabama and began your academic career at a prestigious Community College;” wouldn’t really go the same way, I suppose.... 😂
This is advanced dinner conversation. Stick to safe (but boring) topics. Never mention money, religion, or politics. In England you might ask a person what he does for a living, but he'll likely deflect the topic. He'll rather tell you that he's a keen hobby gardener/hobby cook/golf player/painter/antiques collector (likely a hoarder).... Same thing in France. And Germany. Ask a scandinavian (or a dutch), and he'll tell you exactely what you wanted to know ! 😊
0:34 she finished eating a bite and put her cutlery in the plate and right away drinks from the glass without wiping her mouth first in order not to smudge the glass. What a peasant.
She does look older in this scene, The huge 80s hair and the colour of the her dress and the make up didn't compliment her hair in this scene. Also I read that she had a eating disorder that puffed her cheeks out sometimes I still think she is beautiful though.
I remember in the 80s women's magazines they'd have a before and after makeover section and the girls would always look 20 years older after caking on all that power makeup and hairspray.
Luke is so sweet, beautiful, handsome, sexy...He was and is for me the most beautiful actor in Dynasty. It's a shame that he had to die in Moldavia. They´d should Claudia and Dominique. Claudia had in the next season just boring storylines and they didn´t know what to to with Dominique. Prince Michael and Galen also. Luke dead is one of two scenes when I cry in Dynasty. The other one is the scen when Krystle Krystina disguises as a bride.
And who'd think back then it was G Thomson who actually was gay :D Anyway i remember I was so little back when it wa aired i couldnt even comprehend the whole steven-girls-boys thing with my innocent few-year-old mind, i could feel however he hadnt done anything wrong. I remeber i didnt like Adam
This is just a soap opera and I am amazed on how they portrayed the lifestyle ... Nowadays there are reality showsssss............. That try to show the same kind of lifestyle shown here........and fail fail fail.fail miserably....
i can't believe that Amanda was a hater too, Fallon was so indifferent and could care less about Steven and his sexuality .. why did they bother to bring Amanda into this family?? they should've kept Fallon on the whole time, she no doubt would've been very amicable and supportive to Luke and Steven's relationship .. i gotta gay hating family myself, it makes me sick to know i got one :(
I think you're watching though a contemporary lens. Having a few bitchy swipes at a person's sexuality is nothing compared to harsh language used back then. Being called a 'fag' back then was nothing, now it's pretty much a hate crime.
Jamie Pender Honey darling , when u have three A-levels in English , then u can crow , until then in the words of Alexis , get out of my sight u miserable has-been 🤣🤣
God this scene is so awkward. parents were readily accepting their gay kids in the 80's. I am not sure this show had a realistic portrayal of Steven's coming out or Blake's reaction.
vistaprime a whole lotta water has been running under that bridge since that coming out scene...Blake have had time to "warm up" on Steven being gay, hence the awkwardness of this scene
well yeah after killing the man Steven loved and then forcing him into relationships with women and then running out his male roommate cause he caught him babysitting Danny. it's been a long evolution on this subject for Blake.
Not all parents were like that... Especially not in the 80's, especially not father's and especially not a man of Blake Carringtond generation. Compared to the PC garbage on TV today, the blatant homophobia on Dynasty is one of the more realistic aspects of this over the top show
Blake really should've just gotten over it already, someone really needed to get THAT man into therapy .. i mean if Alexis the bitch can be more accepting, why can't he? it's all Ronald Reagan's fault, damnit!!
I had to drop out of college because my Dad said I couldn't live at home anymore because my little brother might use my toothbrush and get AIDS from it. It was 84. The 80's were the beginning of Gay acceptance, not like nowadays. And he hated that I watched Dynasty with my Mom.
Blake at the end. 🥲That's the mainstreaming that has helped change public opinion. (His b.s. in the early seasons reinforced it, but to go 180 sent message too).
My gosh what a freaking doll face Billy Campbell is.
Bill Campbell will always be Cliff 'The Rocketeer' Secord to me!
Very powerful scene in the early 80’s.
I got a kick out this actor's name since it's the same as the character Andrew Shue played the first 4 or 5 seasons of "Melrose Place". Yes, he does have an adorable face.
Adam was always such a villain. In a lot of ways, the child most like Alexis. The irony is that Gordon Thompson, who played Adam, just came out as gay a few years ago. I've thought it must have been a challenge for him on some level to play scenes like this. He's acknowledged that nobody on the series, to his knowledge, knew that he was gay and had he come out then, it would have been career ending.
@@alexisdiva9 Fun Fact : Billy Campell was in Melrose Place reboot for 3 Episodes he played Amandas Love intrest
I remember watching this scene and I thought how nice Blake was that he was trying to accept Steven's Lifestyle. I wonder how many Parents were able to do the same thing.
laminage except he killed Steven's previous boyfriend and fought him to get his baby's custody.
Not many even try
@@Inyourlap well at least Blake evolved and stopped killing Steven's lovers😆
lifestyle?! its not a lifestyle. its who he is.
@@tcsl7764 And by staying true to who he really is, he is choosing to live that lifestyle.
awwwwwww that was a beautiful scene for the time, remember this was early-mid 80s at the onset of the AIDS crisis. Aaron Spelling (and Norman Lear) was very daring for tv audiences back then.
This scene was actually a brilliant alternative version of "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner." Kudos to the scripters for giving us a popular show that was so far ahead of its time in some issues such as this. Very delicately handled.
I SAW A INTERVIEW YEARS AFTER DYNASTY ENDED THAT LINDA EVANS PRESSED HARD FOR THIS STORYLINE.....WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PERSON LINDA EVANS IS N THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.....THANK U LINDA.....
Luke is lovely and Blake came along way in accepting Stephen's sexuality, coming from an Older generation. People forget in the 1980s it was a more fearful/prejudice atmosphere towards gays than now days, even many actors would reject gay roles for fear of ruining their career.
Al Corley (1# Steven) told me, he was tired to play Steven as the producer/writer (because of the concervative era/viewers) have wanted him straight instead of beeing gay. He would have played Steven otherwise for longer time.
@@julianokhoshaba1 and a brain is for thinking and spelling words right... Too much for some it seems...
This scene is so well executed. This was the 80s remember...
@@julianokhoshaba1 Gays can have sex other ways other than in the butt.
Adam and Amanda are so young and so bitter. Luke is a breath of fresh air, his sincerity and gratitude is heartwarming. In my humble opinion, he was the most genuine and likable character in the whole series.
yea i agree, Luke (Billy Campbell) definitely was more down-to-earth and level headed, especially when he tried to talk some sense into Steven, it's a shame they didn't keep him on the show another year .. he could've made for an interesting love triangle with Steven and Bart Fallmont, in the sixth season, had the producers kept him on
if Fallon was in this scene, she would've been very much supportive, i wish they still kept her on instead of the Amanda character
@Flenif2247 yeah Gordon Thomas was about 37 when he first joined the show but his character was ment to be 25!? And yes the actor was gay.
I seem to remember that Gordon Thomson, the actor who played Adam Carrington came out a few years ago.
How did Adam go to Yale????
Didnt he live in Montana until he found out he was a Carrington???
It was a good scene and quite realistic considering the campiness and outrageous storylines of the show during these seasons. They tried to create some character development and based the interactions between the characters by relying on their personalities. I wish there were more human scenes like these in the later seasons. There were many in the first 2 seasons but then it was just over the top threats and hateful discussions. And the writers were not very good at creating “normal” characters (= not insanely rich or powerful) and having them mingled with the Carringtons. They were either gold diggers or totally bland people. Luke was fresh and relatable. Or maybe because I was a gay kid and I liked his puppy eyes and candor.
Handsome group of people
You wouldn’t need to chill the salmon mousse at that dinner party. The atmosphere is more that capable of doing it.
I loved the underlined tension of this dinner party. Everyone is being cordial, but you know something little off kilter. Blake's demeanor and Adam's smugness specifically.
stop talking to him about GIRLS, Adam! you're gay yourself! (at least Gordon Thomson is!)
it's called acting, just ask George Clooney or Bradly cooper or their 'wives'. Oops.
@@vistaprime hmmm interesting.... carry on?
@@awbinn3377 if you want to know whose gay just look at any man Hollywood powerbeard Taylor Swift has "dated".
He did a great job playing a homophobe considering he is gay in real life. It must have been very difficult, but he pulled it off very well!😎
@@vistaprime You know you may be on to something😂.
...The one time when Krystle should've invited Alexis for dinner to lighten the mood.
If I were Luke, I would have gave Adam that sided eye shade right back on him. Toe to Toe.
Adam is so deliciously smug, love it!
Adam seemed more gay to me and I was only 6years old I didn’t even know what gay is.
Adam and Amanda are "Bitter" because they didn't grow up in The Carrington Castle which they feel should have been theirs as much as it became Fallon & Steven.
Y'all I don't think Amanda was trying to throw shade. She was honestly asking.
jwatwater she was either shady or dumb. Why would you ask that question when you knew he was Stephen’s boyfriend?
@@graphiquejackOh, I didnt know it had been established that they were dating yet. I also didn't know that Amanda knew, wasn't this their first time meeting?
Amanda was actually the sympathetic sister to Fallon's disconnected one... yes Fallon and Steven were close, but she "didnt care" about who was banging her brother...she didnt have the time for it. In her own way she was just as bad as blake... maybe even worse. Amanda was making small talk and forgot for a moment who she was talking to. Aside from Krystle, I think Amanda was the "biggest supporter" Steven had
I think she had a bit of a "dumb blonde" moment.
All that hairspray they used on Amanda created hair large enough to shade an outdoor patio or poolside!
Why did they ever write Luke out of the show? That was just stupid. A great actor and a great storyline
oh he just had to save Claudia's life, who ended up getting killed the following season anyway, what a waste of characters and stories!
Maybe they ran out of where else to take the character. A primetime 80s show highlighting a gay relationship would run it's course eventually I think.
@@dannyr2976 you're right. Steven was supposed to be gay but most of the time they had him in "straight" storylines/
Man, I love Amanda's hair. It's so... so BIG. So 80s!
She was gorgeous
One would think that Amanda at least would speak out and say what the heck is the big deal. love is love.
I think Amanda just made a bubbleheaded faux pas and it wasn't a personal jab at Steven. Adam's especially girls comment was definitely a jab though...
Fallon would've.
God, Linda Evans is beautiful!
Love that dress on Krystal.
Must not be in movie only, that young gay life gets perfect. I am 56 now and grew up in the 80ies with my granny because my mother died when i was 12 years old. And i grew up as a young gay teenager in a 45.000 inhabitants city and not in NYC or Berlin, London... But!!! and that is the most important fact before all other circumstances, i had a wonderful, lovely, heartwarming, tolerant, modern and fantastic old granny who accepted me how i was. She said only, i knew that you are gay long time ago but you are my grandson and i love you. That was all. And later my friend was also integrated in our family like a 2nd grandson of her. I had a wonderful coming out time at home. Thank you very much granny. R.I.P. 💖
What a lovely story! Did you have a happy ending with a special someone?
Wow you are more rich than most people in those cities.
Steve and Luke Forever
The wine matched Linda's Dress perfectly
Funny that Adam now in real life has come out
Yep, indeed. Gordon the actor calling the character of Steven's sexuality as a 'perversion', yet in reality hiding his for so long.
@@dannyr2976 He was reading his lines... They're not his true feelings.
@@nekomochi486 I know, but at the same time thinking of the irony...
Adam was a bastard!
+Runner Walters Yes he was the trouble maker of the family but they always gave him so many passes.
Agreed!
Girls! Girls! Girls! Lots of GIRLS.
The irony is the actor who played him was gay, and the one who played Luke is not.
Good scene
Rather ironic that Campbell and Coleman were straight actors playing gay roles but Gordon Thomson was gay playing a straight part.
Adam should cut Luke some slack. They both had to work their way in life. They didn't have A Silver Spoon in their Mouth. Adam waited Tables while at Yale and Luke was a Copyboy nothing wrong with that.
I like the part where Blake tells Luke to sit by him. If I was Luke I would say”ok daddy” LOL!
The actor who played Luke later on played the gay doctor in the mini movie, Tales of the City.
@@clarencedixon3290 Thanks to your comment I'll go watch that right away
Luke is gorgeous 😍 he has nice attitude. Gay people are humans, too ! They love each other just like straight people. Steven and Luke is a nice gay couple. Live for yourself because it's your life. You have all your life to live, all your love to give. Come on Adam, you are gay yourself in real life so WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE 😂 Stop making fun of other people & Be sweet, my Darling !
Just kind of imagining myself as a dinner guest there.... “I hear you are originally from Alabama and began your academic career at a prestigious Community College;” wouldn’t really go the same way, I suppose.... 😂
This is advanced dinner conversation.
Stick to safe (but boring) topics.
Never mention money, religion, or politics.
In England you might ask a person what he does for a living, but he'll likely deflect the topic. He'll rather tell you that he's a keen hobby gardener/hobby cook/golf player/painter/antiques collector (likely a hoarder)....
Same thing in France. And Germany.
Ask a scandinavian (or a dutch), and he'll tell you exactely what you wanted to know ! 😊
dont knock it .PLenty of people start at community colleges and do great
I'm wondering why Alexis never invited Luke for dinner? I would think that she had broke her door down after learning that Blake did.
Funny thing, that actually Adam is only gay on that table. :)
0:34 she finished eating a bite and put her cutlery in the plate and right away drinks from the glass without wiping her mouth first in order not to smudge the glass. What a peasant.
In my mind, fast forward to 2024 when Luke and Stephen are happily married, running an animal rescue in Connecticut in their retirement years.
Catherine Oxemburg looks so old in this scene.
+Claro Bralis She's only in her early 20s during the show. Maybe it's the hair and makeup? I don't think she looks old.
+Claro Bralis I thought she looked older, somewhat heavier and too heavily made up in this scene.
She does look older in this scene, The huge 80s hair and the colour of the her dress and the make up didn't compliment her hair in this scene. Also I read that she had a eating disorder that puffed her cheeks out sometimes I still think she is beautiful though.
I remember in the 80s women's magazines they'd have a before and after makeover section and the girls would always look 20 years older after caking on all that power makeup and hairspray.
she looked even older when her replacement (Karen Cellini) came onto the show
It's funny how Adam turned out to be the gay one in real life.
Beauty Amanda
Luke is so sweet, beautiful, handsome, sexy...He was and is for me the most beautiful actor in Dynasty. It's a shame that he had to die in Moldavia. They´d should Claudia and Dominique. Claudia had in the next season just boring storylines and they didn´t know what to to with Dominique. Prince Michael and Galen also. Luke dead is one of two scenes when I cry in Dynasty. The other one is the scen when Krystle Krystina disguises as a bride.
Nice...
And who'd think back then it was G Thomson who actually was gay :D Anyway i remember I was so little back when it wa aired i couldnt even comprehend the whole steven-girls-boys thing with my innocent few-year-old mind, i could feel however he hadnt done anything wrong. I remeber i didnt like Adam
Yikes - What a fun dinner!?
Its interesting fact that Adam (Gordon Thompson) is actually openly Gay man in the real life!!!
Too cool..
I don't think Luke had enough makeup on. Lol. Btw, Blake says hes welcome there but didnt blake supposedly kill Luke? Too funny.
This is just a soap opera and I am amazed on how they portrayed the lifestyle ...
Nowadays there are reality showsssss............. That try to show the same kind of lifestyle shown here........and fail fail fail.fail miserably....
Gordon Thompson actually he openly gay!!!
i can't believe that Amanda was a hater too, Fallon was so indifferent and could care less about Steven and his sexuality .. why did they bother to bring Amanda into this family?? they should've kept Fallon on the whole time, she no doubt would've been very amicable and supportive to Luke and Steven's relationship .. i gotta gay hating family myself, it makes me sick to know i got one :(
Amanda wasn't being a hater. She slipped when she asked about girls. You can see it on her face. Which is amazing because she was a crappy actress.
@@wiibaron exactly Adam was deliberately being
nasty but Amanda was not
I think you're watching though a contemporary lens. Having a few bitchy swipes at a person's sexuality is nothing compared to harsh language used back then. Being called a 'fag' back then was nothing, now it's pretty much a hate crime.
Steven is noticeably silent.
You could cut the tension with a needle
Growing Strong100 knife 🔪
Jamie Pender Honey darling , when u have three A-levels in English , then u can crow , until then in the words of Alexis , get out of my sight u miserable has-been 🤣🤣
Growing Strong100 again knife and I actually have an advanced higher in English.
knife but we get the idea.
What a boring and uncomfortable dinner.
HE LIKES BOYS LUKE ID A HOMOSEXUAL
00:01:34......... 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 wata 'faux pas'
God this scene is so awkward. parents were readily accepting their gay kids in the 80's. I am not sure this show had a realistic portrayal of Steven's coming out or Blake's reaction.
vistaprime a whole lotta water has been running under that bridge since that coming out scene...Blake have had time to "warm up" on Steven being gay, hence the awkwardness of this scene
well yeah after killing the man Steven loved and then forcing him into relationships with women and then running out his male roommate cause he caught him babysitting Danny. it's been a long evolution on this subject for Blake.
Not all parents were like that... Especially not in the 80's, especially not father's and especially not a man of Blake Carringtond generation. Compared to the PC garbage on TV today, the blatant homophobia on Dynasty is one of the more realistic aspects of this over the top show
Blake really should've just gotten over it already, someone really needed to get THAT man into therapy .. i mean if Alexis the bitch can be more accepting, why can't he? it's all Ronald Reagan's fault, damnit!!
I had to drop out of college because my Dad said I couldn't live at home anymore because my little brother might use my toothbrush and get AIDS from it. It was 84. The 80's were the beginning of Gay acceptance, not like nowadays. And he hated that I watched Dynasty with my Mom.
But is for pooping
Not only... Trust me 😏
Blake at the end. 🥲That's the mainstreaming that has helped change public opinion. (His b.s. in the early seasons reinforced it, but to go 180 sent message too).