Tecsun PL-660 vs Sony ICF-SW7600GR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2024
- Testing and comparing the two radios on SW, SW-SSB, LW and MW.
Antennas: 5m wire for SW, internal for LW/MW.
The Tecsun is like an imaginary updated version of the 7600GR: same size, same features, with better ergonomics and a better display. It can even automatically switch on/off a Sony AN-LP1 antenna connected to the ext. ant. input, just like the 7600GR does.
The performance is similar. Sony is better on LW and MW. On SW the Tecsun is a little bit more sensitive and has a better sync. The overall sound quality is better on the 660 (excepting for the muting of weak signals, which I personally hate it).
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Thank you very much for this very interesting video! Great radios, i have an PL-660 to and i'm very satisfied with the performance. Tecsun builds very good radios, unbeatable for it's price. I have the PL-660, PL-380, PL-360, PL-390 and PL-606 and i love them :-)
u are Tecsun man..
Everyone has their own opinions of the comparison of these two radios. There are many different comparisons in which many different people portray for their own use. There are so many different types of comparisons and NONE are wrong. This gives us viewers a nice and wide variety of different aspects which can be a useful (and fun) aid in an eventual purchase. So for those of you that rate or criticize the comparison - nobody cares. Thank you for posting this video. I picked up the pl-660.
Thanks for this review, a few people don't seem to get your idea, they just want it all INSTANTLY.
I guess your video is akin to sitting down with a friend who has two radios the Sony and the Tecsun. Over the internet we can't try both radios out, but you do that for us AND for almost 23 mins too ! Thanks !
Here is a tip: getting bored while playing with radios is way way better than writing useless comments on TH-cam! ;)
For me, an extremely timely review as these are the two selections which I have been perusing. I will buy one of these by month's end.
Mersi mult pentru comparație, în sfârșit îmi pot face o idee despre cât de bine funcționează în practică.
Thanks, I've used the sw7600 in a number of ham radio applications, and agree it is a well designed and built radio. I had been considering the Tecsun too, so that side-by-side testing was very useful information 73 Lynn / NG9D
Obviously this test comparesonly the sensitivity and the sound quality of the two radios for regular listening. I'd be happy to watch a video made by you, where you compare selectivity, dynamic range, image rejection and whatnot.
The ICF 2010 is a superb receiver-have owned one for 21yrs.
Paul Salazar yes yes grandfather of all this kids
Great video . Both sound identical . There is only difference in loudspeakers . PL660 has bigger one . It has more volume sound , audio in a medium range . Sony's audio is in a high spectrum , more acceptable to me . Sensitivity seems equal for both radios .
I agree with Pesnyaozemle regarding the reception on LW and the Degen 1103. Sony ICF 7600 GR is a wonderful radio - however I would preffer if it had a turning knob rather then buttons for tuning :)
Thank you. I have had the Sony for a good few years and now I know the Tecsun is not very different.
On some wavebands the Sangean ANT-60 really helps the Sony pull in the faint stations. I recommend it.
As a ham I think the Sony is the winner. Audio is much clearer.
Sync is way better too. Tecsun practically deaf in comparison.
According to the serial number, the manufacturing date is December 2011. The light does stay on for 30 seconds.
I owned the Sony SW7600GR for all most 10 years. Make sure when not used for a while to take the batteries out. Mine had the battery leaked out, after the volume button didn't work and some of the front buttons became too stiff.
Radio became useless!
660 is just a better radio if shortwave is your goal. The Sony lacks a tuning knob and lacks narrow/wide bandwidth filters and it shows in this video. However, if AM/LW dxing is your goal, the Sony clearly is better plus the Sony can accept an external AM antenna in the jack, while the 660 you can not disable the ferrite antenna. Plus the Tecsun comes with a power supply while the Sony does not. Another advantage is the Sony haven't been manufactured in several years, so if you buy one, it's been sitting around for a while.
i agree 100% .. sony for am tecsun for sw..
+SuperToshua Actually they aren't. The 7600GR was last produced nearly a decade ago, what you are getting are radios that have sat around for that long. No longer in production.
+gps29070 The Sony SW7600GR has synchronious detection which is much more effective. I've got some receivers I like which have a wide-narrow switch instead and they are very limited when trying to eliminate strong interference from adjacent stations. Unfortunately, the Sony ICF-7600GR does not disable its whip antenna completely when connected to an external one. This compromises its performance compared to other radios like the DEGEN DE1103 or even my Realistic DX-440 (a 25 year old table top receiver).
Actually, Tecsun PL-660 has synchronous detector also, and it is better receiver overall (I have both).
@@TheGrantourismo "actually" means what? a new Version of the PL-660 (with fixes and improvements)?
I agree ! Concerning the reception of LW band, PL-660 is not so good. DE1103 is far better than PL-660.
Nice video .. interesting to see the radios .. 73
It's true, MW on the Tecsun PL-660 is not as good as the SW. It is not a bad MW radio, but not the best either. Also there is one big issue (for me, at least): all 660s I know have a spurious signal around 945 kHz which is badly affecting reception around that frequency and on some harmonics in the SW. I made a video named "Tecsun PL-660: spurious signals", take a look.
The Sony SW7600GR is the C Class Mercedes of the portable SW radio market - Those who have opened the back of one say its build quality extends to the inside as well as out - Will this little plastic roadrunner still be working in twenty years? - Besides this looked like an honorable draw to me - the Air band capability looks cool however.
+Hamish McPenguin I agree. But I have to admit the 7600GR has found its rival. It is the DEGEN DE1103. It performs better on all bands. It is more sensitive and has lower noise floor. It has better quality and louder audio. When connected to an external antenna, the DE1103 leaves the 7600GR far behind, for it disables its whip antenna completely and does not overload. The 7600GR is better for tuning stations that are very close thanks to its synchronious detection feature, and the 7600GR beats the DE1103 hands down on image rejection too.
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I used to own a Sony ICF-SW7600 and currently I own an SW7600G I purchased in 1998. I have compared its performance with many portable radios of the same category and I am yet to find a better radio as to spurious and image rejection. I wish it had a better sound quality, better selectivity, wide to narrow switch from 6-1Khz and DSP technology or something similar I could switch on and off as I wish. How about it?
I have a brand new TECSUN 660 and it is the best SW receiver I've owned !!! 2nd is my Grundig satellite 750 I highly recommend both of these radios but so sad the grundig is no longer in production
longtime VHF Ham radio guy, N9VEQ. Purchased my first short wave radio, my Sony 7600GR for about $130 USD. Live in mid west USA. Have gotten 5 qsl cards via listening, finding web site, sending signal report
was thinking about going ham radio HF. Purchased the Sony as it did Single Side Band (SSB). MANY religious short wave radio stations here in USA Starting to experiment with long wire antennas. Contemplating new radio, so here I am on youtube "shopping"
The Sony sounds better. I have the ICF-7600G since the 90s, and is still in good order
Its Dec 2019 and the Sony is still the better radio. I bought mine in 2001 and its now in the shop to have all capacitors replaced. Its still worth fixing and keeping going!
How do you keep the capacitors from breaking?
cvcoco I have a brand new one in the box never used, I tested it when I bought it. Do they wear from sitting or use? Hard to replace?
cvcoco thanks for the thought out response. I bought mine a couple years back right before they discontinued them. So if it works I’ll just use it I guess,
cvcoco thank you for your participation.
be interested to see a comparison with the ICF 2010/201D
@Rawad Hamwi Go ahead and buy one. It's a good radio, even with its quirks.
Was that a Mosssad channel in the beginning? Don't know many that use phonetics other than them. Either way, thanks for the video, it was pretty fun to listen to these radios.
No, I haven't noticed distortions when using sync on my Tecsun PL-660.
I have found that the Tecsun's synchronous detector adds some (not much) distortion to the received signal. Anyone else notice this? I've also found that the Tecsun's wide filter to be enormously wide. A strong AM signal can be detuned by 5 kHz without any noticeable difference in audio quality. Again, anyone else notice this?
Nice video..hey is there a dimple in the main tuning knob..so you can really spin it with your finger in the dimple?
I loved the build quality and some of the features of the Sony, but the PL-660 ultimately won over for me. I sold the Sony.
I sold off the PL-660.
Yo tengo el 7600gr me gusta pero quiero un tecsun 660 voy a vender el sony
Ahh it seems that you have the latest version...I wish I could have a good PL-660 from the first time :-/
I've owned both sold the Sony just never liked the push to tune keeping my PL-660
I sold the PL-660
For those looking for a good radio under $200 Tecsun PL-680 and 880 models perform equally well and in some cases, better than the 660.
PL-680 could not be better than PL-660, since it is the same receiver in different case. Electronics is the same.
"PL-680 could not be better than PL-660, since it is the same receiver in different case. Electronics is the same."
Not necessarily.
It is a pain to have to move the fine tune up and down..because they are transmitting on different...or are off freq..alittle..right???
The background light on the Sony turns off 10 seconds after you stopped pressing any button.
Even though the Tecsun is better in some respects, I think I still prefer the Sony.
Ah OK...Can you tell me the date your PL-660 was manufactured? I know that the date is written on the battery compartment cover
eBay says that it has a newer version of the PL-660 and only they said that the light duration was extended to 30 seconds. I just wanted to know if there were other improvements...Anyway thanks a lot :)
the Sony has it hands down over the tecsun clear'er sound .
I have a Sony SWF 7600 GR on order from Amazon. A number of years ago I used to own a Sony ICF 2010 and I will be curious to see how well The Sony SWF 7600 compares to the ICF 2010.don't know what my reception will be like with the built-in telescoping antenna since I live in a steel frame building. I might get by by putting out a piece of wire about 30 feet long out the window.
+Bill Wolverton I've just bought an SW-ICF7600GR and it's basically the 7600G with better sync detect and RF wheel button (something that sould be manadatory for each sw receiver) plus more memories, which is great!. But its audio is so processed I found it hard to listen to my favorite broadcast stations. With earphones, it even gives me a headache. So, I decided to give the PL-660 a try. If it confirms its positive reviews I might sell the 7600GR and the DE1103 altogether (though it may take sometime, for I don't trust the quality of Tecsun components much). By the way, the 2010 is far ahead of any of these two. I've just bought one and what a wonderful rig it is. Unfortunately, I didn't like the extremely muffled ssb sound. Also, FM selectivity is disappointing compared to my old Realistic DX-440, the 7600GR and the DE1103. The ICF-2010 is not good as a standalone SW shortwave receiver and as such I don't think attaching a wire to its whip antenna will be of any help. I advice you connect to its jack and you'll be amazed. Nothing to worry about, for many tabletop radios don't perform well as such, i.e. Realistic DX-440 (Sangean ATS-803), Sangean ATS-909 and 909x. Smaller radios such as the DE1103, PL600, PL660, SW7600G and SW7600GR are much better. Hell, even the tiny ICF-SW1s is better. But don't get me wrong, the ICF-2010 even with a simple indoor shielded loop antenna connected to its jack is the best of them all for a mile!
I bought the SONY 13 years ago in Madrid,Spain. It still performs very well, especially on MW.
@@juliocesarpereira4325 and the battery running time is better with the ICF 7600GR than with the TECSUN models. I use high drain rechargeable batteries from Panasonic and each charge lasts for a long time with an average volume level.
@@marcuskeulertz5852 Thanks for your feedback. Three years have passed and I no longer intend to sell either the PL-660 or the DE1103 PLL. In fact, I got another DE1103 PLL and it proved to be a good decision, since not long after someone dropped my first DE1103 9 stories down. As for the PL-660, I'm going to follow the tips made by a Russian guy who deactivated that infamous soft muting filter. In the case of this radio, which is PLL it is possible.
yeah I saw that video about spurious signals...i know that there is newer version of the PL-660, do you have any idea about the performance of that version and if they solved the spurious signals problem or enhanced the MW performance? and thank you so much for your reply :-)
I can listen to broadcast AM radio (520-1710) at certain times, and world band braodcasts as well (Radio Free China, Voice of America, Duetsche Welle, and others) inside the meter ranges (49 meters, 41 meters, 25 meters, etc. etc.) but I'm also very interesting into getting back into "ship to shore phone calls, ANY oceanic aircraft, pirate radio (which I could never find before), even stuff below 520 KHZ.
Can someone recommend some brands and model #s?
I've never heard of a newer version than the one I have (which is Rev. 3) so I don't know if they fixed any of the issues.
I should also state that I'm looking for something that goes all the way from 150KHZ-29999KHZ continuously.
I'm also going to buy a full coverage handheld police scanner as well that goes continuous from somewhere below 5 MHZ all the way up to 1300MHZ or higher but I'll be able to decide on that one all by myself (though you could leave me a few suggestions anyway).
I just need help with a really good but inexpensive shortwave receiver that has a BFO switch.
Thanks. (8^)
Tudor with the sony icf - sorry for the question it may seem not well informed but can you pick up ham radio operators and access local weather channels
Great video!!
I am interested in the Tecsun PL-660 and I am planning to buy it but as I was reading some reviews, some of them said that the MW reception is not as good as the reception of the other bands? What can you tell me about that? Is that correct or what? please tell me and thank you so much
_It’s hard for me to conclude which one is more sensitive. Sony ICF-SW 7600GR or Tecsum -PL660._
GOOD DAY FRIEND, SORRY, WHERE THE FEBRICADA Sony ICF-SW7600GR?
The PL-660 is a poor performer with a random wire antenna as one is forced to reduce the RF-gain setting in order to lower the excessive noise level that also results in the received signal being attenuated. The AGC decay rate is also too fast and SSB suffers from poor BFO tuning accuracy and distortion.
The radio is quite poorly engineered but gives the impression of looking better than it is. I'm amazed that so many people are content with the low quality control of these cheap receivers. Perhaps they're really all in denial about its real shortcomings or simply don't venture beyond the MW/FM bands.
Where are you, in which coutry ?
Without very expensive test gear any comparison is going to be subjective, ( hey why not send this chap some CASH to buy some?) but I agree with you, the Tecsun does seem better on the SW
what's your antenna type? Only SW radio.? Thanks a lot^^
The button bfo is tune fine?
I used to have a Realistic DX-440 (when they were made) that I loved using for listening to "out of band" SSB signals with the BFO switch. I know that Sangean used to make that same model after the DX-440 went away with their version of the ATS-803A.
Can someone tell me who still makes the BFO switch units (this one sounds like that between 0:00-1:00).
GOOD DAY FRIEND, SORRY, I MADE WHERE THE Sony ICF-SW7600GR?
Hola amigo
Que quieres aber sobre este modelo de Sony?? Donde producieron o que?? Ya no producen más hace mucho tiempo,pero se vende en Amazon por un precio elevado y usado por Ebay
SONY esuna marca japonesa, ubicado en Tokio. Quieres saber algo más???
ima li test za ukw danke
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Tecsun pl-660 is a better radio overall . Who would want an old Sony radio most with burnt out capacitors crappy speaker and no tuning wheel might have been good in the day but not now .
El.sony suena mucho mejor pero el pl 660 tiene mejor recepción con antena de látigo
mejor el sony
how can chinese out perform japanese?