Boiling water? When I install new rubber seals on the stanchionsand lower legs of my front suspension I put them in the freezer. Cold makes the seals smaller and thus easier to install. Can imagine it will me the same with these grommets.
@@marin_bikes Are the grommets cut so you can slip them over after installing the housing? I will try the warming up method as well. Always nice to learn something!
Funny thing, I was building these from used bikes 20 years ago. Take a 27" wheel size touring bike, add 700c wheels and 38-42 aspect tires with long reach tektro tourning brakes and go exploring.
In the 1990's we called these hybrids, which were actually quite a pleasant revival of wider 700c tyres after the demise of the touring bike in the following decade. The truth is, the bike industry have tried stuffing this hole between road and mtb for years, and so far they have a track record of totally fucking whatever may have started as a good idea. Hybrids got shitty suspension forks before 29ers made them redundant. Tom Ritchey rides offroad on 33mm tyres, this whole trend of wider tyres and increasingly aggressive geometry for gravel bikes is doing a terrible job at defending themselves as "not a mountain bike". Now they're even coming equipped with suspension and dropper seat posts.
oh man, just the review I was looking for, trying to figure out my gameplan for my gravel/road situation and had this on my radar. I LOVE how you set it up, the perfect do it all rig.
Would love to see you test the limits of this one and see how knarley the trail can get before you have to tap out and walk it. Then maybe a comparison to where a true mountain bike stacks up to this.
Sweet man. Looks like a fun bike. Last year I cracked the downtube on my full sus carbon bike and a bought a full rigid frame to give me something ride until I got my bike fixed. I've been riding everywhere and have been really loving it. All the trials are scary again! I finally got my full sus bike fixed but I'm still riding the rigid. I put 2.6 tires on it to save my wrists on the chunk. I think I could put some skinner tires on it and do some gravel.
My friends always asking me when I'm gonna ride my full suspension again haha. I haven't touched it much in the last 3 or 4 months. These rigid bikes are just so much fun!
Yeah it took me a few months to find this bike in stock. Eventually ordered it from a bike shop in Massachusetts. How you liking the Presidio? Appreciate you checking out the video, and glad you enjoyed the humor!
What do you think about this carbon fork. I bought dsx 1, and to be honest, for me this fork looks quite cheep Chinese, especially when I took off wheel and see tiny parts of carbon with a lot amount of poor resin only where you mont wheel axle.
I have to agree with you. I don't know a ton about carbon parts, but I had the same resin pieces where the axle attaches. Time will tell if it holds up. For normal street/gravel riding, I'm sure it's fine. I was a bit concerned hitting some of those drops in this video lol.
Great video Kyle! Thank you for always keeping us informed with your helpful thoughts. Lately, I’ve been having a hard time deciding between Specialized Rockhopper Comp and Trek Marlin 7. I’m planning to ride on mild trails and commuting. And now that I’ve seen this video, deciding one from the three bikes has taken me to another level of dilemma.😂 If you had to choose from Trek Marlin 7, Specialized Rockhopper Comp and Marin DSX1 keeping in mind the components, weight and durability. Which one would you go for?
Thanks Tushar! To answer your question it depends on what your trails look like as well as your skill level. The DSX is going to be the lightest bike of those 3. I think the Rockhopper and Marlin are just over 30 pounds. While the other two come with suspension forks, they aren't necessarily the greatest forks, so if you don't mind extra vibrations transferred to your wrists/hands, then the DSX is probably a better value (components wise), and will also be quicker on pavement. If you are brand new to riding trails, then it might be safer to start with one of the other two as they will provide a little more confidence off road.
@@CobraKyle Thank you for all your inputs. This surely helped me a lot. I’m new to mountain biking and for starters I was planning on riding in a park nearby my house that has a dedicated off-road track. But as mentioned before, I will also be using my bike for commuting and everyday use, that’s where I will have an advantage of the full carbon fork (if I am not mistaken) on the Marin compared to the suspension fork on the other two. Vibration is also one of the factor that I was keeping in mind. Ultimately, I feel that I’ll have to reprioritise my order of priorities while buying a bike.
Did you have any issues getting the stock rims to setup tubeless? From my understanding the DSX 2 only has tubeless ready rims. I'm considering a DSX 1 and definitely want to setup tubeless but would prefer not to have to buy new rims. I know the tires will need to be replaced regardless though.
Thanks for the great explanation, just one question about the rear hub, I tested this nice bike, but hated the rear hub 🫣 one more question about turning the wheels into tubeless, only I have to change the stock tires into tubeless ones and add the liquid? I mean are the wheels tubeless ready ? Thanks
Hello. I'm 6' tall, and being used to mountain bikes, this bike always felt a little cramped to me. I probably could have gotten an XL to feel more like a mountain bike, but I enjoyed the size large just fine.
@@CobraKyle thank you. I’ve wound up cramped on a previous build (went with what the dust service person was certain about) Want to build this out as a long distance gravel ride and think I’m going for the xl. Thanks again for the quick turn around answer.
Thanks for your video(s), laughed with your ginder app joke - I'm confused about the front thru-axle, noticed yours is inserted on the driveside of the bike, similar to Marin website photos. I have mine inserted from the non drive side, like I thought all bikes were. It's ok both ways?
Answering my own question, no it can't be inserted both ways. Seems the fork has been changed, my DSX came with three mounting points on the fork blade and yes the thru-axle screw is on the drivetrain side, so insert the axle from the other side. Strange change?!
Can I ask where you got / what is the wolf tooth retaining nut for the front thru axle? That's the only element of the bike I'm not convinced with, otherwise I love mine
I ordered the axle direct from Wolf Tooth's website. The retaining nut that the axle threads into? The wolf tooth axle didn't come with one, so I'm still using the stock nut that came on the bike. The axle itself is a much nicer piece though. I wanted to replace the rear as well, but apparently they don't make one in blue.
It went together easily in less than an hour. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
Do you think this feels much different than riding an Xtrada 7 when riding on roads/ easy gravel? I have an Xtrada but want something more efficient for commuting with a few gravel trails and maybe try on a few mountain bike trails. But don’t want it if it rides similar to factory Xtrada. What do you think?
They feel somewhat similar, but the DSX has better gearing for top speeds. I got my Xtrada down to 27.5 pounds and my DSX weighed close to 25, so the weight difference wasn't drastic. Love both the bikes, but if you want a truly different experience, I'd suggest going with maybe a drop bar gravel bike.
To further elaborate....that is the upgraded bottom bracket I got. I believe it came with a square taper bottom bracket which Shimano sells those as well.
I am in the merket for this particular bike. I am 5'10" with 32 inseam. The website states that M-5'6" - 5'10" and L-5'10"- 6'2". What would you recommend for me? Thanks
Hello! I couldn't find much information about the tires either before purchasing the bike. I did notice on Marin's website that they normally will list when their wheels/tires are tubeless compatible, and the DSX makes no mention of it. I discovered the Riddler tires weren't tubeless compatible once I received the bike. WTB tires will have a "TCS" logo stamped on the sidewall if tubeless compatible, and the ones that came on this bike don't have any markings indicating it's tubeless.
@@CobraKyle I emailed Marin tech support and this was their answer: Hello and thanks for your reply and support of Marin Bikes, Greetings from Northern California! Unfortunately the DSX 1 and 2's rims, tires and rim strips are NOT tubeless compatible: • Although they can possibly be converted to utilize the tubeless system; with the required {tubeless tires, rubber rim strips w/integrated valves and sealant} conversion parts to go tubeless like Stan's, etc: www.notubes.com/shop/tubeless/rim-strips-kits • th-cam.com/video/05P8dEgQvmU/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo etc . • The stock "red" colored rim "strips" are NOT tubeless compatible and are meant for inner-tubes only. • I highly encourage that you call or visit your local Marin Bikes dealer, for the required tubeless conversion parts, accessories, or quality repair services, which can easily be found through our website link. Thanks and please feel free to email back with any questions, Gravy Technical service / Team mechanic
Thanks for sharing! I did retape my rims, added tire inserts and tubeless valves (along with tubeless ready tires), and it's been holding up great. It is possible, but I wouldn't recommend doing so with the stock tires as they have a wire bead designed to be used with tubes.
@Cobra Kyle, Good day from Philippines! I just want to ask, How many teeth does your GRX crank have? 40 or 42? Planning to upgrade my DSX 1. Thank you.
@@CobraKyle Hi there, thank you for responding. Even though you needed to change the BB to an external? because that the 1st thing i'll be doing. 42 tooth is massive.. and yes, the colour is polarizing that brown.. aren't the hubs better on the DX2 or is that not really an issue? appreciate your time mate.. Marc from Sydney, Australia.
New subscriber....make more content about this bike. I own a Marin Fairfax 1 and it serves me well. I call Marin the 'poor man's Trek'. ha ha great value and quality for the price.
Hey awesome review..love the fun bit. I'm 180cm was planning to buy the size L. Was planning to use dsx1 as commuter in urban potholed streets in india. Is the ride quality comfortable on city roads for long duration? read in a few reviews that the handling is twitchy, didn't understand though. Also do your feet touch the tires while turning? Would apprecite your view on this, Thanks Sourav
Hello and thank you! I've found it to be pretty comfy. Coming from mostly mountain bikes I do feel like the reach is a bit cramped, but after getting wider bars I've felt better on it. I haven't had any issues with my toes hitting the front wheels. There seems to be enough clearance. This thing is still one of my favorite bikes I own!
How tall are you? I see you got a size large DSX1. I sit towards the bottom end of size large frame according to the Marin size guide. But wondering if I should order a M or L? I’m 176cm tall.
I am 6' tall with a 32" inseam, and the size large can feel a little cramped for me. Especially with the handlebars that came on it because they had a more prominent backsweep. Once I swapped the bars I felt a bit more comfortable. If you prefer a more stretched out riding position I'd say go with the large. If it's too long, you can always put a shorter stem on it!
@@CobraKyle Cheers 👍 Recommended size puts me on a Large, even if I’m toward the lower end. Ride a Large size mountain bike and it’s maybe a little stretched at times. But I’m thinking a Medium in the DSX would feel a bit on the small side. Pity I can’t try one. I don’t think there’s a seller nearby. Was going to order from bicycles online for delivery.
@@lennardsantos8142 Not yet. And it's mainly because I've not been able to try one. Thinking I'll go for a Large and add shorter stem, as Kyle suggested, if it's a little on the long side. I saw a guy ride past me on one of these a few months back. Tried to flag him down to talk to him about the bike. But he probably thought I was trying to rob him or something. He just looked around then sped up!! 😕
Hi! Nice video! How do you think about fitting Jones Bar on this bike? I'm looking for some 50/50 (asphalt/dirt) long distance (100km+) everyday ridings with a lightweight bikepacking.
Great video. I'm curious on sizing. I saw the comments about frame size and your height. I am 5'-10", also with a 32" inseam. I'll be getting the DSX 2 when it becomes available again but need to decide if I go for Large or Medium. Any insight? Thanks
I would say if you have 32" inseam to go with the Large. Not sure if you're coming from a mountain bike, but this bike felt small to me compared to what I'm used to riding. I think the medium would feel even more tiny.
Why nobody talking about bottom bracket of dsx1 ? It has 'sealed catridge', or 'relieved BB'.Is it something old school stuff? Why don't they tell us more about it? Its diameter is also top secret. I need the frame only, but i would like a simple BSA68 frame. Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks so much for this review. I’ve just come across it having purchased a DSX1 apx 6 months ago. Loving the bike so far. Quick question - you’ve added specs to make the bike more MTB friendly, what changes would you recommend to take it the other way? ie more road efficient? I’m commuting and occasional trail riding on it - but I want to make it a little quicker on the road. What changes could I make to tyres / handlebar setup? Any other recommendations? Many thanks.
No!Flat bar- not anatomical for hands. But it's easier to steer on off road. Because of this it seems that it is better.In fact, it is only suitable for DH or Treil.
With the right tools (I used a simple bike tool kit th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L that you can strap to the bike) it's simple to assemble. As a 270lb guy looking for a way to get more exercise that's easy on my feet I have been impressed by this bike. The tires ship with air in the tires, but before you ride you need to pump them up som more, but once you do you can ride with confidence. You'll definitely want to replace the seat if you're going to ride for any real distance, but that's the case with most bikes. I'm loving it and it has given me a hobby from my youth back.
Isnt it kinda dumb to have down bars on something that isn't smooth . Terrain wise . The purpose of flat bars is more control isn't it . Seems not nearly as stable especially on the dirt or trails .. Down bars make zero sense
Pretty much! Some XC bikes are lighter than this, but would cost a lot more money. I just rode my local trails yesterday on this bike, and it was a blast!
@@CobraKyle it’s MSRP is $580, it comes with every component branded (Shimano, kenda tyres etc), hydraulic brakes and it only weighs 12.4 kgs. This broke is overpriced and most of the parts are in house branded.
@@riz6656 I'm sure it's a nice bike. I'm looking at a US spec one, and it uses a 2x8 drivetrain, open dropouts, and can't add an internal dropper post. All deal breakers for what I was looking to do. Shimano stuff is fine, but it's using some really low end Shimano parts where the name doesn't really matter. I've quite enjoyed Marin parts that I've used on various models. They've served me well. I'm glad you enjoy your Giant. Any bike that gets people riding is a good bike in my opinion.
Love This! For the cable grommets we recommend dropping them in boiling water before reinstalling
Thanks so much for checking out this video! Good tip about the grommets. It is rumored that to this day...they are still sticking out lol
Boiling water? When I install new rubber seals on the stanchionsand lower legs of my front suspension I put them in the freezer. Cold makes the seals smaller and thus easier to install. Can imagine it will me the same with these grommets.
@@micno2076 interesting. The reason we recommend boiling water is it makes the rubber more malleable. We will try the freezing method too.
@@marin_bikes Are the grommets cut so you can slip them over after installing the housing? I will try the warming up method as well. Always nice to learn something!
i know I'm kind of off topic but do anybody know a good place to watch new movies online?
Funny thing, I was building these from used bikes 20 years ago. Take a 27" wheel size touring bike, add 700c wheels and 38-42 aspect tires with long reach tektro tourning brakes and go exploring.
In the 1990's we called these hybrids, which were actually quite a pleasant revival of wider 700c tyres after the demise of the touring bike in the following decade. The truth is, the bike industry have tried stuffing this hole between road and mtb for years, and so far they have a track record of totally fucking whatever may have started as a good idea. Hybrids got shitty suspension forks before 29ers made them redundant. Tom Ritchey rides offroad on 33mm tyres, this whole trend of wider tyres and increasingly aggressive geometry for gravel bikes is doing a terrible job at defending themselves as "not a mountain bike". Now they're even coming equipped with suspension and dropper seat posts.
Love the “let’s circle back” and “Grindr” reference 😂😂. Keep up the vids bud
Thanks Brenden! Hope you are well man!
Well this was certainly a lot of fun. Great show Kyle!
I appreciate that!
Hahahaha you had to me in tears. I was legit expecting some nerd going on about bike gear ratios etc... you deserve a subscribe for that!
Glad to hear you enjoyed it and thanks for subscribing! I'm still a nerd though lol
Excellent review. I have been waiting for you to come out of the closet for a long time man! So proud of you buddy!
Out of the closet as a bad boy that can shred any bike? We've known that for years!
@@CobraKyle haven’t seen you on a DH bike though....
I mean...anyone can ride a downhill bike. Mark comes to mind...
@@CobraKyle than do it.....
@@ryanrayburn1894 next bike park I'm eager to rent one at least once.
oh man, just the review I was looking for, trying to figure out my gameplan for my gravel/road situation and had this on my radar. I LOVE how you set it up, the perfect do it all rig.
Well done Kyle! Your content is getting better every video. I just purchased a Marin Kentfield 2 and love the damn thing. Go Marin go.
Thanks Patrick! Marin has some seriously cool bikes this year. Loving everything I see from them!
I'm trying to decide between the Kentfield 2 and DSX 1. I'm a beginner and not sure which is better. How would you describe the Kentfield?
Would love to see you test the limits of this one and see how knarley the trail can get before you have to tap out and walk it. Then maybe a comparison to where a true mountain bike stacks up to this.
Sweet man. Looks like a fun bike. Last year I cracked the downtube on my full sus carbon bike and a bought a full rigid frame to give me something ride until I got my bike fixed. I've been riding everywhere and have been really loving it. All the trials are scary again! I finally got my full sus bike fixed but I'm still riding the rigid. I put 2.6 tires on it to save my wrists on the chunk. I think I could put some skinner tires on it and do some gravel.
I purchased GT grade elite turning it in2 flat bar & making 11/12 speed. 27.5/650b 11s cassette & 29/700c 12 cassette
My friends always asking me when I'm gonna ride my full suspension again haha. I haven't touched it much in the last 3 or 4 months. These rigid bikes are just so much fun!
@@CobraKyle for sure! Wait, you have friends?
Lol I know it's hard to believe
I wanted this one, but instead built out a Marin Presidio 1...the DSX at the time was not available. Great video though. Love the funnies.
Yeah it took me a few months to find this bike in stock. Eventually ordered it from a bike shop in Massachusetts. How you liking the Presidio? Appreciate you checking out the video, and glad you enjoyed the humor!
I love the idea of this bike. It's a blank canvas bike, inoffensive and capable.
Yeah this bike is incredibly fun. I have a lot of bikes, and this one is still one of my favorites.
Bought it, Love it
Guys don't worry he responded to me on Grindr.
With a message so incredibly vulgar and creative I had to respond. The outro was our first gravel date!
Great review. But why not the Muirwoods? And it’s steel. And real. But not teal sadly.
I want a "stay rowdy within reason " bumper sticker.
haha maybe I can have those made someday!
Brakes?
Woah! Tubeless gravel tires? That’s awesome!
It's so awesome! Tubes are the worst lol
What do you think about this carbon fork. I bought dsx 1, and to be honest, for me this fork looks quite cheep Chinese, especially when I took off wheel and see tiny parts of carbon with a lot amount of poor resin only where you mont wheel axle.
I have to agree with you. I don't know a ton about carbon parts, but I had the same resin pieces where the axle attaches. Time will tell if it holds up. For normal street/gravel riding, I'm sure it's fine. I was a bit concerned hitting some of those drops in this video lol.
The dude didn't even flinch doing the Grinder bit.
That righty for though that is actually a good idea.
Cannondale is blowing up my email as we speak lol
hello geat video what parts would i need to chnge the crankset?
Great video and review really enjoyed it. Weighing up this versus a drop down option from Marin - still can't decide but the DSX sure looked fun.
Want one to visit the beats and meet ups on Grindr
Please, make a ton of content on this bike..
I'll probably make a couple more videos about this bike. People seem to really like this thing!
Great video Kyle! Thank you for always keeping us informed with your helpful thoughts.
Lately, I’ve been having a hard time deciding between Specialized Rockhopper Comp and Trek Marlin 7. I’m planning to ride on mild trails and commuting.
And now that I’ve seen this video, deciding one from the three bikes has taken me to another level of dilemma.😂
If you had to choose from Trek Marlin 7, Specialized Rockhopper Comp and Marin DSX1 keeping in mind the components, weight and durability. Which one would you go for?
Thanks Tushar! To answer your question it depends on what your trails look like as well as your skill level. The DSX is going to be the lightest bike of those 3. I think the Rockhopper and Marlin are just over 30 pounds. While the other two come with suspension forks, they aren't necessarily the greatest forks, so if you don't mind extra vibrations transferred to your wrists/hands, then the DSX is probably a better value (components wise), and will also be quicker on pavement. If you are brand new to riding trails, then it might be safer to start with one of the other two as they will provide a little more confidence off road.
@@CobraKyle Thank you for all your inputs. This surely helped me a lot. I’m new to mountain biking and for starters I was planning on riding in a park nearby my house that has a dedicated off-road track. But as mentioned before, I will also be using my bike for commuting and everyday use, that’s where I will have an advantage of the full carbon fork (if I am not mistaken) on the Marin compared to the suspension fork on the other two. Vibration is also one of the factor that I was keeping in mind. Ultimately, I feel that I’ll have to reprioritise my order of priorities while buying a bike.
Nice bike but the 74 deg sta for steady state cruising is too upright for me. Too much weight on the hands.
Flat Bar Gravel Bike is something amazing
Is the dsx2 worth the extra cash?
As a long time, unironic hybrid rider - I feel incredibly vindicated that this is now a thing.
haha it's so true! Bike industry marketers are incredibly talented!
What size do you recommend for a female who is 5’5”?
Did you have any issues getting the stock rims to setup tubeless? From my understanding the DSX 2 only has tubeless ready rims. I'm considering a DSX 1 and definitely want to setup tubeless but would prefer not to have to buy new rims. I know the tires will need to be replaced regardless though.
Thanks for the great explanation, just one question about the rear hub, I tested this nice bike, but hated the rear hub 🫣 one more question about turning the wheels into tubeless, only I have to change the stock tires into tubeless ones and add the liquid? I mean are the wheels tubeless ready ?
Thanks
I own this bike, I agree, the rear hub has TON of play.
What is your frame size? And what is your height?
So I’m struggling with sizing on the new version. Looks like you went large. Can you comment on cockpit sizing and how tall you are.
Hello. I'm 6' tall, and being used to mountain bikes, this bike always felt a little cramped to me. I probably could have gotten an XL to feel more like a mountain bike, but I enjoyed the size large just fine.
@@CobraKyle thank you. I’ve wound up cramped on a previous build (went with what the dust service person was certain about) Want to build this out as a long distance gravel ride and think I’m going for the xl. Thanks again for the quick turn around answer.
I got here so early it wouldn't let me leave a comment. Good morning
Morning Harry! Always early to the party and I appreciate it!
@@CobraKyle hey. Do you know a ryan van duser ?
Helo 188cm xl size ok ?
Do you think it’s worth spending more and going for the 2 ?
Thanks for your video(s), laughed with your ginder app joke - I'm confused about the front thru-axle, noticed yours is inserted on the driveside of the bike, similar to Marin website photos. I have mine inserted from the non drive side, like I thought all bikes were. It's ok both ways?
Answering my own question, no it can't be inserted both ways. Seems the fork has been changed, my DSX came with three mounting points on the fork blade and yes the thru-axle screw is on the drivetrain side, so insert the axle from the other side. Strange change?!
sick video
Thanks Simon!
@@CobraKyle 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hey what a cool bike, I have the Sirrus carbon with light mountain bike wheels and 38mm Pathfinder Pro tyres...enjoy you bike,,, cheers Paul
Can I ask where you got / what is the wolf tooth retaining nut for the front thru axle? That's the only element of the bike I'm not convinced with, otherwise I love mine
I ordered the axle direct from Wolf Tooth's website. The retaining nut that the axle threads into? The wolf tooth axle didn't come with one, so I'm still using the stock nut that came on the bike. The axle itself is a much nicer piece though. I wanted to replace the rear as well, but apparently they don't make one in blue.
@@CobraKyle thanks for the reply. Love your new video on the DSX by the way. The bike is just awesome fun
What mud guard do you have on your bike?
Bro Saludos from Ecuador!!! walk for run hard in the mountain please!!
Hi, can we put front derailleur on this bike?
Great video ! Do you know tje weight of the bike ?
Thanks! It's been a long while since I weighed it, but I believe it's right around 25 pounds.
Is it geared low enough for steep hills?
It went together easily in less than an hour. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
I gave you a like for the grindr post 😂
lol!
Do you think this feels much different than riding an Xtrada 7 when riding on roads/ easy gravel? I have an Xtrada but want something more efficient for commuting with a few gravel trails and maybe try on a few mountain bike trails. But don’t want it if it rides similar to factory Xtrada. What do you think?
They feel somewhat similar, but the DSX has better gearing for top speeds. I got my Xtrada down to 27.5 pounds and my DSX weighed close to 25, so the weight difference wasn't drastic. Love both the bikes, but if you want a truly different experience, I'd suggest going with maybe a drop bar gravel bike.
Info specs for bottom bracket? Upgrading mine but can’t find any info about bottom bracket
I used the Shimano Ultegra SM-BBR60 Bottom Bracket English Threaded. Perfect fit!
To further elaborate....that is the upgraded bottom bracket I got. I believe it came with a square taper bottom bracket which Shimano sells those as well.
I am in the merket for this particular bike. I am 5'10" with 32 inseam. The website states that M-5'6" - 5'10" and L-5'10"- 6'2". What would you recommend for me? Thanks
Hey im 178cm/5"10 and i bought L size, the M size felt a bit too small for me
What is the frame's weight? Thank you!
Just the frame itself? I'm not quite sure about that. The complete bike is right around 25 pounds for the size large.
Hey Kyle,
Great review! What diameter are is your stem? I got one today and looks thin, would 31.8 riser bars fit?
Thanks Scott! The stem is a 31.8mm clamp, so you could certainly add some riser bars!
Very nice flat bar gravel bike
Thank you!
Is it possible for upgrade to dual chainring? Im planning to upgrade to 26-36t
Can you please lead me to an article that states that these WTD Riddler tires are not tubeless ready
Hello! I couldn't find much information about the tires either before purchasing the bike. I did notice on Marin's website that they normally will list when their wheels/tires are tubeless compatible, and the DSX makes no mention of it. I discovered the Riddler tires weren't tubeless compatible once I received the bike. WTB tires will have a "TCS" logo stamped on the sidewall if tubeless compatible, and the ones that came on this bike don't have any markings indicating it's tubeless.
@@CobraKyle I emailed Marin tech support and this was their answer:
Hello and thanks for your reply and support of Marin Bikes,
Greetings from Northern California! Unfortunately the DSX 1 and 2's rims, tires and rim strips are NOT tubeless compatible:
• Although they can possibly be converted to utilize the tubeless system; with the required {tubeless tires, rubber rim strips w/integrated valves and sealant} conversion parts to go tubeless like Stan's, etc: www.notubes.com/shop/tubeless/rim-strips-kits
• th-cam.com/video/05P8dEgQvmU/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo etc .
• The stock "red" colored rim "strips" are NOT tubeless compatible and are meant for inner-tubes only.
• I highly encourage that you call or visit your local Marin Bikes dealer, for the required tubeless conversion parts, accessories, or quality repair services, which can easily be found through our website link.
Thanks and please feel free to email back with any questions,
Gravy
Technical service / Team mechanic
Thanks for sharing! I did retape my rims, added tire inserts and tubeless valves (along with tubeless ready tires), and it's been holding up great. It is possible, but I wouldn't recommend doing so with the stock tires as they have a wire bead designed to be used with tubes.
Hi Kyle, how much did the DSX1 weigh "out of the box".
Hello! I don't recall fully, but it was right around 25 pounds.
100% belt drive..lol also heavy hard tail will give you better workout than lighter gravel?
Fun Bike getting one soon thanks for the video. 😎👍🏼
Hope you enjoy it!
@Cobra Kyle, Good day from Philippines! I just want to ask, How many teeth does your GRX crank have? 40 or 42? Planning to upgrade my DSX 1. Thank you.
Hello Rhic! I went with the 40 tooth in 170mm length. Good luck on yours!
Hey, nice video. Question, what made to choose the DX1 over the DX2 ? I'm in 2 minds.
Hey Marc! Thank you! I felt like the DSX2 didn't offer that much more for the money, and I preferred the color of the DSX 1.
@@CobraKyle Hi there, thank you for responding. Even though you needed to change the BB to an external? because that the 1st thing i'll be doing. 42 tooth is massive.. and yes, the colour is polarizing that brown.. aren't the hubs better on the DX2 or is that not really an issue? appreciate your time mate.. Marc from Sydney, Australia.
Where can I get that price cause they’re closer to $1300 right now
Unfortunately, the pricing has gone up not just on this bike, but pretty much all bikes. The MSRP as of today is $1,199.
New subscriber....make more content about this bike. I own a Marin Fairfax 1 and it serves me well. I call Marin the 'poor man's Trek'. ha ha great value and quality for the price.
size Large??...
How tall are you? I am looking at the same bike and I am 5'9".
Hey awesome review..love the fun bit. I'm 180cm was planning to buy the size L. Was planning to use dsx1 as commuter in urban potholed streets in india. Is the ride quality comfortable on city roads for long duration? read in a few reviews that the handling is twitchy, didn't understand though. Also do your feet touch the tires while turning? Would apprecite your view on this, Thanks Sourav
Hello and thank you! I've found it to be pretty comfy. Coming from mostly mountain bikes I do feel like the reach is a bit cramped, but after getting wider bars I've felt better on it. I haven't had any issues with my toes hitting the front wheels. There seems to be enough clearance. This thing is still one of my favorite bikes I own!
@@CobraKyle thanks so much for your inputs. Cheers.
Cool hardtail.
Thanks! It's a really fun bike!
Would you review the norco storm 1
If I'm able to get my hands on one I'd be happy to review it!
@@CobraKyle I have it
@@CobraKyle man you can't believe it it's an awesome bike
@@CobraKyle btw what tires would you recommend for it
@@CobraKyle I wanna run tubeless probably
My next bike.
How tall are you? I see you got a size large DSX1. I sit towards the bottom end of size large frame according to the Marin size guide. But wondering if I should order a M or L? I’m 176cm tall.
I am 6' tall with a 32" inseam, and the size large can feel a little cramped for me. Especially with the handlebars that came on it because they had a more prominent backsweep. Once I swapped the bars I felt a bit more comfortable. If you prefer a more stretched out riding position I'd say go with the large. If it's too long, you can always put a shorter stem on it!
@@CobraKyle Cheers 👍 Recommended size puts me on a Large, even if I’m toward the lower end. Ride a Large size mountain bike and it’s maybe a little stretched at times. But I’m thinking a Medium in the DSX would feel a bit on the small side. Pity I can’t try one. I don’t think there’s a seller nearby. Was going to order from bicycles online for delivery.
@@Dogboy73 hi did you get the bike? we're the same height and i was wondering which size you ended up getting? thanks
@@lennardsantos8142 Not yet. And it's mainly because I've not been able to try one. Thinking I'll go for a Large and add shorter stem, as Kyle suggested, if it's a little on the long side. I saw a guy ride past me on one of these a few months back. Tried to flag him down to talk to him about the bike. But he probably thought I was trying to rob him or something. He just looked around then sped up!! 😕
Hi! Nice video! How do you think about fitting Jones Bar on this bike? I'm looking for some 50/50 (asphalt/dirt) long distance (100km+) everyday ridings with a lightweight bikepacking.
Did you end up doing this? Literally exactly what I was thinking about doing for the same reasons
What is your height?
6' tall with 32" inseam
Great video. I'm curious on sizing. I saw the comments about frame size and your height. I am 5'-10", also with a 32" inseam. I'll be getting the DSX 2 when it becomes available again but need to decide if I go for Large or Medium. Any insight? Thanks
I’m same measurements, same question please.
I would say if you have 32" inseam to go with the Large. Not sure if you're coming from a mountain bike, but this bike felt small to me compared to what I'm used to riding. I think the medium would feel even more tiny.
@@CobraKyle Cool, thanks!
Hey bout tire clearance does 2.1 will fit into it?
Yes it will fit a 29 x 2.1 and I believe that is the max tire size.
The righty is tighty 😎
Cannondale is sending a dump truck full of cash to me right now for the idea lol
Why nobody talking about bottom bracket of dsx1 ? It has 'sealed catridge', or 'relieved BB'.Is it something old school stuff? Why don't they tell us more about it? Its diameter is also top secret. I need the frame only, but i would like a simple BSA68 frame. Does anyone know anything about this?
emailed marin and here's what they said.
width is 68mm, with industry standard, 1.37″ x 24 tpi_'English' BSA threading.
Thanks so much for this review. I’ve just come across it having purchased a DSX1 apx 6 months ago. Loving the bike so far.
Quick question - you’ve added specs to make the bike more MTB friendly, what changes would you recommend to take it the other way? ie more road efficient?
I’m commuting and occasional trail riding on it - but I want to make it a little quicker on the road. What changes could I make to tyres / handlebar setup? Any other recommendations? Many thanks.
Nice machine
Flat bar gravel is best gravel
I'm gonna have to agree with you on that! I used to road bike and drop bars make sense there, but they don't seem too enjoyable off road.
No!Flat bar-
not anatomical for hands.
But it's easier to steer on off road.
Because of this it seems that it is better.In fact, it is only suitable for DH or Treil.
@@Viorg4 flat bar is also more suitable for riding in the traffic
@@cyberbarbaro this is not true and you will understand it by comparing their size.
@@Viorg4 is easier to use brakes in the traffic with flat bar
With the right tools (I used a simple bike tool kit th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L that you can strap to the bike) it's simple to assemble. As a 270lb guy looking for a way to get more exercise that's easy on my feet I have been impressed by this bike. The tires ship with air in the tires, but before you ride you need to pump them up som more, but once you do you can ride with confidence. You'll definitely want to replace the seat if you're going to ride for any real distance, but that's the case with most bikes. I'm loving it and it has given me a hobby from my youth back.
For me I prefer flat bar gravel bike
Anyone tried to convert it for dropbars? :D Also square crankset is shity, to bad they didn't make this with cheap hollowtech specs.
put drop bars on it ? 😂
Flat bar gravel bike with upgraded drop bars! That will be the big trend for 2022 lol
@@CobraKyle maybe it's gonna become an evil chamois hagar wanna be lol
Lmao!!!!!! "Grinder" hahahaha
lol I've been sitting on that joke for months!
Well worth it!!!!
Isnt it kinda dumb to have down bars on something that isn't smooth . Terrain wise . The purpose of flat bars is more control isn't it . Seems not nearly as stable especially on the dirt or trails .. Down bars make zero sense
Its a lighter XC bike
Pretty much! Some XC bikes are lighter than this, but would cost a lot more money. I just rode my local trails yesterday on this bike, and it was a blast!
LMAO !
LMAO.
Giant escape 2 is better and cheaper
Care to elaborate?
@@CobraKyle it’s MSRP is $580, it comes with every component branded (Shimano, kenda tyres etc), hydraulic brakes and it only weighs 12.4 kgs. This broke is overpriced and most of the parts are in house branded.
@@riz6656 I'm sure it's a nice bike. I'm looking at a US spec one, and it uses a 2x8 drivetrain, open dropouts, and can't add an internal dropper post. All deal breakers for what I was looking to do. Shimano stuff is fine, but it's using some really low end Shimano parts where the name doesn't really matter. I've quite enjoyed Marin parts that I've used on various models. They've served me well. I'm glad you enjoy your Giant. Any bike that gets people riding is a good bike in my opinion.
Nice
Hello ! Can you put 28x2.00 tires on this bike?