Its safe to say that sun and humid zones near the sea does hit hard on horizontal parts. Being a Gyeon Certified installer I can tell when someone does not mantain often their car just by dropping water on those mentioned panels. And still fights away water spots like a damn! Thanks for the update video Jason ❤
The problem is, most of these coatings aren’t good enough to perform without maintenance all the time. There are a couple that are made to perform well even without maintenance. But it’s ironic nobody is talking about them.
Thank you for putting in all of the work and time to make this happen. It sucks that you can't design a perfect test, but that's reality. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
I applied Ceramic Pro to my car 3 years ago (working at a detiling shop). I followed the Gold Package procedures and haven't added any extra toppers to this day. The sides, front, and rear of the car still bead like day one, but the roof, trunk lid, and hood do not bead hardly at all. I tried using CarPro Spotless and and Iron Remover on those panels, and while it helped, they still didn't bead up as well as they used to. I polished my trunk lid and applied CQuartz and the same thing happened, so I am thinking something in my environment is ruining the hydrophobic properties of the coating. There is just no way it "disappeared" in 6 months. I keep it parked outside so that's certainly a factor.
Those flat surface were mostly prone to stagnant water dust so it is safely to say the side mostly hold up compared to level surfaces and yes parking outside are one thing plus how you maintain washing once in a while as the tar and debris stayed in the surface that loss or block the properties of this ceramic coating to perform at its best. I had ceramic pro gold package too but for my third car so mostly stayed inside garage but I always clean it and top coat it after decontamination like iron,clay bar it every 6mos and occaional washes but certainly apply sealant to it. I’m gonna apply the duraSlic 1500 or xtreme I heard they have good resultand will do in my SUV and a sports coupe by spring and will buy their flowX or duracoat for sealant and protection gloss.I heard flowX were so slick an glossy and you can apply it to any brand or existing ceramic you have.
@@hachiroku7443 should I opt out of the gold package in favor of the silver? Everything im reading is the coating needs maintenance every 6months, so what’s really the point of the Gold package? My detailer is charging an extra $300 for the gold. He only offers Gtechniq or Ceramic Pro
@@ChicagoAutoPros great videos. QQ: Just bought a new car, unfortunately after it came back from the dealership carwash while I signed the deal. The car had a damage, which ended up having to re-paint a panel. Question is, how long should I wait before I can get the ceramic coating? Any ideas? Specially the specific panel that was repainted?
We install fireball in Minneapolis. On my own personal car with fireball butterfly, we’ve seen some spottiness with the performance. Overall good, but a few panels need to be recoated even after a decon (rear trunk, driver topside door). Fireball Dok Do seems to perform better, and Silla seems to be good too for our salty winters.
Interesting results, some coatings performing well on side panels not well on top surfaces which is to be expected as the front hood takes the most abrasion in the Chicago winter climate.
I’m really surprised at the hit modesta took on all the panels except the passenger side. Feynlab has come a long way, their lite coating is amazing! Fireball has some great coatings that I truly enjoy using but the certification requirements are ridiculous!
@@dunk4361 lucky you! I only have a seasonal detailing business that’s Mobil. All my customers have very large garages for their exotic cars. With that said I have to resort to ordering my coatings from a detailing store in Canada. But their not allowed to ship Fireball coatings to the US so I order in bulk and have them shipped to a small company in Canada that drop ships them to me here.
@@royaltyautodetailing get with system x, there max coating is expensive but its amazing. I know artdeshine is not in this test but I also use them and their amazing to
@@royaltyautodetailing Wait you're in Canada or the US? If you became an installer for Fireball in the US, all you have to do is use the USA website to order coatings and products.
Thanks Jason for this test. But honestly I really don't see much of a difference between brands and they all look to be performing the intended task. It comes down to each individual's means and budget. Thanks for the Videos, I'm a weekend warrior that enjoys maintaining my vehicles while looking their best. 👍💦
My one critique would be to film this in a way that makes seeing the differences easier. Maybe more lighting on the part of the car being sprayed. But otherwise great to see.
Just watched every one of these and would have loved to know what ur actual thoughts are on them as ur seeing them in person Was there ones that qas just not good ones that looked horrible kmes that didn't hold ones that had bad spots ect
Is there a video where he tells us the results? because spraying water on a black car from far away, we can't really see to choose the winners ourselves....
I find it odd that people are excited to see expensive pro coatings doing well six months in. This should be expected. Now toppers will ensure they make it a little longer. I’ll install coatings for as long as customers ask me to, but I honestly can’t tell anyone these coatings are a better choice than using a quality spray coating every 6 months to a year with a compatible drying aid.
This is exactly how we feel. If you are supposed to just put a spray sealant on them to give the impression they are still working why spend all the money on a coating anyway? We will still let you buy it but we talk a lot of our customers out of it.
Probably would be the peace of mind with a more durable hardness rating, higher level scratch resistance, durability in harsher weather conditions. In my opinion, it just depends on customers wants/needs, expectations, and budget.
@@vincentcasarez8895 The scratch resistance coatings have are almost insignificant especially if the customer plans on taking care of the car properly they are less likely to scratch it regardless. A coating would never to be able to hold up to scratches caused by "real life use" vs just washing swirls.
@@JetlinerX that may be true as Ive been testing durability and scratch resistance on name brand coatings. Professional grade might be the only separation in terms of less marring from washing over the years to where it’s substantially noticeable.
@@vincentcasarez8895 In regards to durability I’ve seen too much early failure in coatings, both pro and consumer grade, for me to suggest the price of pro coatings. In a recent Lake Country video a pro coating proved less durable than the consumer grade coating from the same manufacturer. They don’t impress in Scott HD’s channel either. His tests (or demonstrations) definitely show how extreme temperatures in either direction often damage even the best coatings. I’m leaning more and more towards 1 year +\- products like Gyeon Can Coat or Meguires hybrid paint coating at this point. I don’t even mention scratch resistance as most people don’t care about light wash marring and want to be told that something will protect their paint from “real” scratches which coatings can’t prevent.
The only thing I was wondering is which system X coating was used for this test. Also amazing job on this video as a professional detailer we are lucky to have a TH-camr like you that isn't afraid because you are doing what every detailer wants to do and provide the best service and this video does a great job of seeing all of them.
Great testing. Everyone has their favourites, but taking cost, ease of use and maintenance into account, there’s only a couple of standouts emerging as far as I can tell. Some are performing great but cost a fortune or have a fussy maintenance regime. Why choose these if you can get an equally performing coating that is cheaper and easier? The longer this goes on, the longer it will be of use. All knowledge is good knowledge.
Great comment - something I didn't think about. Is there are reputable source to research on the ease of use and maintenance? I am sure the manufacturer has info, looking for something that could be non-biased. Thinking to go with XPel and wanting to take that first step that you mentioned about overall cost.
i feel ilke the tops of the car will be more bombarded with sun and dust, which could prematurely wear out the coating when compared to the ones on the sides. Especially if the car is kept outside.
Blackfire Fire and Ice guy here w/Blackfire Sealant. Detailing for some time. Looking make the move to Ceramic. What ceramic coating tested is best for Longevity and Holding? Work time and ease of installation/application? Hard to find any Ceramic Coating Review that is not biased by Corporate/sales interest. Is Blackfire Pro Black 9H 5 Year Ceramic any good? How is the 3D, how is there Ceramic Coating? You guys look like experts so would love to hear your input either on the forum or DM.
Damn... Looks like super exclusive coating (Modesta) is the worst performing coating on this test xd And it is the most time consuming coating to apply with all the hardening needed...
Veros was the clear winner. Gtechniq FenyLab CeramicPro Angelwax Gyeon Are the rest, in that order. Heat exposure areas really show the real standouts. Great work guys 👍👏👏
OK still trying to determine what is the best product to buy ? Which one should I get for my truck? I need something that will last with really good results.
It'd be interesting to see what impact the M4 has on all the coatings. Maybe after doing your standard decontamination and documenting the results, apply M4 over other coatings which also have flat water behavior. Observe and document the results. Then try it on the whole car and observe the results. I wonder if M4 is artificially improving the water behavior or if it's stripping away what is causing the negative behavior. Trying it on other coatings may be able to reveal some of the answer.
Hello great job putting this video together I do have a couple of questions. Not sure if this has been answered before but what was the reason for not using Carpro? I have done many cars in Carpro and Gtechniq certified coatings and neither me nor the customers actually fully decontaminate and top the coating off every 3 months and all my cars have had perfect hydrophobic properties after 18+ months and I am from Slovakia where we get very bad winters, salt etc. So I am quite surprised that after 3-6 months some of these coatings need decontamination and toppers especially brands like Modesta.
@@manu-sc8vz I think the Ceramic Pro did the best in the water tests. Water leaps off it. Duraslic looks like a close second. I like Duraslic because it's supposedly oil-resistant. I want to do a motorcycle and there's parts of a motorcycle that get oil from the chain. And road crap. But the only nearby Duraslik detailer is mobile, and I don't want to do an expensive ceramic coating outside in windy, dusty Colorado. There's a nearby professional enclosed Ceramic Pro shop. I think I'll give them a try.
I'm curious if the maintenance product for Gloss it isn't what's hurting the Modesta coating, seeing as Gloss It looks even worse. Would be interesting to see if Gloss its maintenance product overflowed to Modesta. I have Modesta on my vehicle and can say mine takes a beating and keeps going with 0 issues.
with descale what are you diluting it to. im assuming its diluted just using the bottle for Osha. Noticed a few vids back you used it on cement as well. seemed to work fairly well. The coating seem to be doing fairly well since the last update. but surprised at how much maintenance has been needed so early on with some brands.
I used it straight. Maintenance is determined on how much you drive and how the car lives. This one lives outside and gets driven a lot. Therefore requires more frequent maintenance. Also I’m doing all the maintenance at the same time to make it as fair as I can. As the test goes one I will go longer periods without maintenance to see the results.
I don't understand the point of testing the difference of each coating when you are applying toppers every few months. At that point, you are basically comparing toppers and not the coating.
@Mrjozz011 not true. Ceramic Pro only recommends topper once per year for annual maintenance. This guy is claiming that maintenance washes and topper applications are performed every 2-3 months. That's overkill and defeats the purpose of comparing the actual coating.
@@ChicagoAutoPros maybe should label each coating with its respective topper. Ceramic pro & _____ topper, etc. Because its not a coating vs coating analysis.
Had a professionally applied (after paint correction) Ceramic Pro Silver applied on a Toyota Avalon Limited 5 years ago. In general, I've been very happy with the results, very low maintenance and still looks great. Now the same installer has switched their entire business to Xpel ceramic coatings. I'm having trouble finding info on the Xpel offering compared to the Ceramic Pro. Any help?
I am in the process of having XPEL ceramic (Fusion) applied to my 2024 F150 Raptor. I chose it over Fireball or System X as the XPEL installer did the PPF and ceramic at the same time in the same shop which makes more sense than doing it at 2 different shops. I will let you know what I think once I pick it up tomorrow morning
@@andytomescu2968 Mine was all done at one time, by one shop, Paint correction, then PPF, then the Ceramic Pro Coating. It' been great but we're likely getting anew vehicle later this year, so thinking ahead. That's when I discovered the shop I used switched from Ceramic Pro to XPEL Ceramic Coatings. I'll be interested to see what you think of yours.
So I picked up my truck yesterday. Firstly, I’m quite unhappy with the XPEL PPF install. Lots of misalignment on the PPF especially on the fenders and headlights. The worst part of it is how yellow the PPF looks next to areas not done in PPF. In terms of ceramic, I was told to not wash the car for 2 weeks so I don’t know how it will bead. My main concern with ceramic is durability. They told me I need to bring it for a $50 annual inspection when they wash it and a basic ceramic coat in order to maintain the 4 year warranty. XPEL also offers a 8 year warranty ceramic now but unfortunately they did not have stock of it.
@@andytomescu2968 Well that sucks, especially after what we pay for these services. The PPF mis-alignment is really an example of an inexperienced installer. Granted the Raptor has some large panels, which would be really hard to apply unless you had lots of experience. Do you know if they used the pre-cut PPF or bulk and cut their own? The Ceramic definitely needs to cure for a couple of weeks, before being washed, matter of fact our installer told us to leave it sit outside in the weather for at least 14 days and preferable 30 days before hand washing. No more automatic washes. The after care is important to the longevity and appearance of the ceramic coating. Don't skip out on them. Each time my has been updated (4 times now) it has looked perfect.
You’re right, it’s definitely inexperience. Turns out 2 separate installers worked my truck. The experienced guy bulk wrapped my hood and it turned out great. The inexperienced guy did the headlights and fenders with templates and each side turned out differently. It’s quite a poor job so I’m going to ask them to redo it. I wish I could upload pics here to show you.
Just get a nice DYI coating, keep your car clean and garaged if possible. It's therapeutic to wax your car, at least for me. There are plenty of OTC products to keep your paint looking beautiful for a fraction of the cost. If you don't enjoy taking care of your car, it really. doesn't matter what you put on it. The video was interesting though.
See this is where I wish we could get two cars, same yr build date same color, because the clear coats will be and respond different, in my experience guys.
This is exactly why myself and other installers around me have stopped using Modesta coatings. They constantly clog and lose their self cleaning properties when that happens. Definitely not a good choice of coating for the customer who isn’t going to bring their car in at least once a month for a wash.
I appreciate the work, but I'm not sure what we're supposed to learn from these tests. All the products on the rear doors/rear quarter panels seem to be performing the best, which makes sense given that they see the least amount of road and UV contamination. With these types of real world tests, I think you can only fairly compare two products at a time...one product on the left side of the car and one product on the right
If you have watched the entire series you will learn the price of each coating, how to apply, how to properly maintain each coating , and what your customers will experience throughout the coatings life. Each coating has 3 different placements on the vehicle to see how the performance is on the different areas.
It really depends, we get pretty harsh winters here in Chicago, so these ceramic coating results shouldn't be too far off from your experiences. However, it always depends on the car, if it's garage kept, the color of your car, how you wash it, etc. We hope this video was informative and helps you get one step closer to finding the product that works best for you!
@@ChicagoAutoPros You have given so much time and efforts to help everyone, thanks for making this video. I will be parking outside and just a curious question, ppf wears off in winter time if we go for an automatic car wash. ?
And this is why I love Detailing and professional coatings. There are so many variables that experience really is key. Anyone that thinks they can just jump right into detailing and ceramic coating really should actually get an internship instead.
Watching this almost makes me want to stop offering Ceramic Coatings. I mean at only 6 months with maintenance you can see that none of them look like day 1 and they are supposed to last years. It is only 6 months into it! I am really wondering what Chicago Auto Pros thinks of this and what they tell customers for longevity, because none of those are going to hold up to 5+ years
Love the effort, but I found this overwhelming to the point of not being useful. I don’t need to know the BEST, just give me an informed recommendation.
You're free to make your own conclusions! We don't want to declare winners or rankings, as this is only our test. The results shown on camera could have been affected by our location, car paint, and the elements. We have done our best to maintain the coatings to the manufacturers' specifications and simply show you the video as unbiased as possible. Hope the video helps you make your decision!
@@ChicagoAutoPros Would have been a better video with some conclusions. I understand why you didn't - you don't want to get people off side, but you cannot be friends with everyone and friends who are only there when times are good aren't really friends anyway!
DuraSlic with flowX or duracoat for gloss and slickness a winnner👌easy to installed and one coat only back by really hood company expertise in coating in electrinics etc worldwide.
It would make more sense to get x amount of cars and all coat them with different coatings, this test isn’t really a fair comparison since some panels get more exposure to the elements and certain parts of each panel gets different levels of exposure.
An average customer does not add toppers every 2-3 months or gets it detail every 2-3 months. The average customer will take that car back to the car wash, let bird poop sit on it or wash it them selfs with dish soap lol. The real test would have been fallowing up with real customers, but that may hurt you business or the coating companies when that 5yr coating turns out to be only 1 maybe 2yrs.
@@Mrjozz011 our average customer does add topper’s every 2-3 months (we do it for them). This car sits outside and gets shit on. Only gets washed every two weeks. Our average customer keeps their car in their garage. It’s as real as it gets. If a customer is going to treat their car like you described, I would not recommend they get a coating.
@@ChicagoAutoPros well you have some great customers and great return business. I do I agree a customer shouldn’t get their car coated if they’re going to take it to a car wash or not maintenance themselves. The real truth is, ceramic coatings are only as good as how you maintenance them. But from real world experience I seen many owners tell me their car was coated 1yr or 2 yrs ago and that paint is flat that coating has been gone. I would say 65-70% of owners that get their cars coated don’t do what you do to maintain the car, but that’s great your customers maintain their ceramic costing.
Is it a good sign when I can actually see the separation of products specifically in the driver's door? And what am I supposed to be looking out for? For me Modesta is the winner because the water sheets off. If Modesta is the loser then I need to know what the parameters are for a successful product.
Being an IGL installer I’m proud of this test because it performed like it does for me. Easy application and easy maintenance.
Glad to see the IGL we install doing well! Everything looking good for the most part
believe or not Kenzo will still hold up to 3 years with weekly wash and once a month maintain. I'm a iglcoatings installer.
Its safe to say that sun and humid zones near the sea does hit hard on horizontal parts. Being a Gyeon Certified installer I can tell when someone does not mantain often their car just by dropping water on those mentioned panels. And still fights away water spots like a damn! Thanks for the update video Jason ❤
The problem is, most of these coatings aren’t good enough to perform without maintenance all the time. There are a couple that are made to perform well even without maintenance. But it’s ironic nobody is talking about them.
Thank you for putting in all of the work and time to make this happen. It sucks that you can't design a perfect test, but that's reality.
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
I will keep trying to improve it. Thanks for being a fan.
Modesta be giving the control panel a run for its money! 👀
I applied Ceramic Pro to my car 3 years ago (working at a detiling shop). I followed the Gold Package procedures and haven't added any extra toppers to this day. The sides, front, and rear of the car still bead like day one, but the roof, trunk lid, and hood do not bead hardly at all. I tried using CarPro Spotless and and Iron Remover on those panels, and while it helped, they still didn't bead up as well as they used to. I polished my trunk lid and applied CQuartz and the same thing happened, so I am thinking something in my environment is ruining the hydrophobic properties of the coating. There is just no way it "disappeared" in 6 months. I keep it parked outside so that's certainly a factor.
Those flat surface were mostly prone to stagnant water dust so it is safely to say the side mostly hold up compared to level surfaces and yes parking outside are one thing plus how you maintain washing once in a while as the tar and debris stayed in the surface that loss or block the properties of this ceramic coating to perform at its best.
I had ceramic pro gold package too but for my third car so mostly stayed inside garage but I always clean it and top coat it after decontamination like iron,clay bar it every 6mos and occaional washes but certainly apply sealant to it.
I’m gonna apply the duraSlic 1500 or xtreme I heard they have good resultand will do in my SUV and a sports coupe by spring and will buy their flowX or duracoat for sealant and protection gloss.I heard flowX were so slick an glossy and you can apply it to any brand or existing ceramic you have.
@@hachiroku7443 should I opt out of the gold package in favor of the silver? Everything im reading is the coating needs maintenance every 6months, so what’s really the point of the Gold package?
My detailer is charging an extra $300 for the gold. He only offers Gtechniq or Ceramic Pro
Feynlab is performing excellent 👌🏾 especially for their entry level option 💫
Angelwax / Veros / Fireball all looked great.
Hats off to you guys for running a thorough test! Incredibly informative, thank you so much!! 👍🏼👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ChicagoAutoPros great videos.
QQ: Just bought a new car, unfortunately after it came back from the dealership carwash while I signed the deal. The car had a damage, which ended up having to re-paint a panel. Question is, how long should I wait before I can get the ceramic coating? Any ideas? Specially the specific panel that was repainted?
Nice work team. Also, good work putting out this video editing your ceramic coating sale 🙂
Thank you!
From what I see, the products the “sheet” water work better on side panels, while products that “bead” water work better on flat panels.
Bro im so happy ahah was waiting for this! thanks @jason and team
Thank you! We hope it's informative.
@@ChicagoAutoPros always is bro !
Hey is modesta a sheeter? just to me seems weak on the hood (My opinion)
We install fireball in Minneapolis. On my own personal car with fireball butterfly, we’ve seen some spottiness with the performance. Overall good, but a few panels need to be recoated even after a decon (rear trunk, driver topside door). Fireball Dok Do seems to perform better, and Silla seems to be good too for our salty winters.
I'll take Gtechniq serum ultra and topped with two coats of EXO V4 over any of these coatings in a heartbeat
I liked the Cermaic Pro and the Angelwax
cetrtainly a lot of work for sure. it will be interesting to see if the project shows any differences, and how much of a difference!?
Opti Coat did Pretty Good ! so did Angelwax, Kool!
Interesting results, some coatings performing well on side panels not well on top surfaces which is to be expected as the front hood takes the most abrasion in the Chicago winter climate.
I've been waiting for this !
I’m really surprised at the hit modesta took on all the panels except the passenger side. Feynlab has come a long way, their lite coating is amazing! Fireball has some great coatings that I truly enjoy using but the certification requirements are ridiculous!
As a fireball installer the certifications weren’t that hard.
@@dunk4361 lucky you! I only have a seasonal detailing business that’s Mobil. All my customers have very large garages for their exotic cars. With that said I have to resort to ordering my coatings from a detailing store in Canada. But their not allowed to ship Fireball coatings to the US so I order in bulk and have them shipped to a small company in Canada that drop ships them to me here.
@@royaltyautodetailing get with system x, there max coating is expensive but its amazing. I know artdeshine is not in this test but I also use them and their amazing to
What are their certification requirements?
@@royaltyautodetailing Wait you're in Canada or the US? If you became an installer for Fireball in the US, all you have to do is use the USA website to order coatings and products.
Thanks Jason for this test. But honestly I really don't see much of a difference between brands and they all look to be performing the intended task. It comes down to each individual's means and budget. Thanks for the Videos, I'm a weekend warrior that enjoys maintaining my vehicles while looking their best. 👍💦
My one critique would be to film this in a way that makes seeing the differences easier. Maybe more lighting on the part of the car being sprayed. But otherwise great to see.
Looks like Duraslic is bearing out Modesta.
For how cheap Feynlab is, wow impressive.
Bearing out? Did you mean beating out? I truly don’t know what you’re trying to say and would like to. Sorry my brain is a little slow sometimes.
Are you going to try diamond pro tech Body 36. I just got some. Looks like a newer good coating. That’s not a traditional ceramic coating.
Just watched every one of these and would have loved to know what ur actual thoughts are on them as ur seeing them in person
Was there ones that qas just not good ones that looked horrible kmes that didn't hold ones that had bad spots ect
Is there a video where he tells us the results? because spraying water on a black car from far away, we can't really see to choose the winners ourselves....
I find it odd that people are excited to see expensive pro coatings doing well six months in. This should be expected. Now toppers will ensure they make it a little longer. I’ll install coatings for as long as customers ask me to, but I honestly can’t tell anyone these coatings are a better choice than using a quality spray coating every 6 months to a year with a compatible drying aid.
This is exactly how we feel. If you are supposed to just put a spray sealant on them to give the impression they are still working why spend all the money on a coating anyway? We will still let you buy it but we talk a lot of our customers out of it.
Probably would be the peace of mind with a more durable hardness rating, higher level scratch resistance, durability in harsher weather conditions. In my opinion, it just depends on customers wants/needs, expectations, and budget.
@@vincentcasarez8895 The scratch resistance coatings have are almost insignificant especially if the customer plans on taking care of the car properly they are less likely to scratch it regardless. A coating would never to be able to hold up to scratches caused by "real life use" vs just washing swirls.
@@JetlinerX that may be true as Ive been testing durability and scratch resistance on name brand coatings. Professional grade might be the only separation in terms of less marring from washing over the years to where it’s substantially noticeable.
@@vincentcasarez8895 In regards to durability I’ve seen too much early failure in coatings, both pro and consumer grade, for me to suggest the price of pro coatings. In a recent Lake Country video a pro coating proved less durable than the consumer grade coating from the same manufacturer. They don’t impress in Scott HD’s channel either. His tests (or demonstrations) definitely show how extreme temperatures in either direction often damage even the best coatings. I’m leaning more and more towards 1 year +\- products like Gyeon Can Coat or Meguires hybrid paint coating at this point. I don’t even mention scratch resistance as most people don’t care about light wash marring and want to be told that something will protect their paint from “real” scratches which coatings can’t prevent.
The only thing I was wondering is which system X coating was used for this test. Also amazing job on this video as a professional detailer we are lucky to have a TH-camr like you that isn't afraid because you are doing what every detailer wants to do and provide the best service and this video does a great job of seeing all of them.
Great testing. Everyone has their favourites, but taking cost, ease of use and maintenance into account, there’s only a couple of standouts emerging as far as I can tell. Some are performing great but cost a fortune or have a fussy maintenance regime. Why choose these if you can get an equally performing coating that is cheaper and easier? The longer this goes on, the longer it will be of use. All knowledge is good knowledge.
Great comment - something I didn't think about. Is there are reputable source to research on the ease of use and maintenance? I am sure the manufacturer has info, looking for something that could be non-biased. Thinking to go with XPel and wanting to take that first step that you mentioned about overall cost.
Gotta say the GTechniq is a beast in my opinion!
Which is it? CSL with Exo, or CSU?
It was ultra topped with exo
@@Ecdetails thanks man. I missed that!
@@AntEloftheHouseofEl no worries bro 😎
i feel ilke the tops of the car will be more bombarded with sun and dust, which could prematurely wear out the coating when compared to the ones on the sides. Especially if the car is kept outside.
awesome testing. looks like Veros beads and even sheets water off better than the others
Thank you for the thorough video!! We use Ceramic Pro
Thanks for watching!
Blackfire Fire and Ice guy here w/Blackfire Sealant. Detailing for some time.
Looking make the move to Ceramic.
What ceramic coating tested is best for Longevity and Holding?
Work time and ease of installation/application?
Hard to find any Ceramic Coating Review that is not biased by Corporate/sales interest.
Is Blackfire Pro Black 9H 5 Year Ceramic any good?
How is the 3D, how is there Ceramic Coating?
You guys look like experts so would love to hear your input either on the forum or DM.
Damn... Looks like super exclusive coating (Modesta) is the worst performing coating on this test xd And it is the most time consuming coating to apply with all the hardening needed...
Veros was the clear winner.
Gtechniq
FenyLab
CeramicPro
Angelwax
Gyeon
Are the rest, in that order.
Heat exposure areas really show the real standouts.
Great work guys 👍👏👏
OK still trying to determine what is the best product to buy ? Which one should I get for my truck? I need something that will last with really good results.
It'd be interesting to see what impact the M4 has on all the coatings. Maybe after doing your standard decontamination and documenting the results, apply M4 over other coatings which also have flat water behavior. Observe and document the results. Then try it on the whole car and observe the results. I wonder if M4 is artificially improving the water behavior or if it's stripping away what is causing the negative behavior. Trying it on other coatings may be able to reveal some of the answer.
M4 doesn't artificially make the coating hydrophobic. It is definitely a deed cleaning agent from my experience
Hello great job putting this video together I do have a couple of questions. Not sure if this has been answered before but what was the reason for not using Carpro? I have done many cars in Carpro and Gtechniq certified coatings and neither me nor the customers actually fully decontaminate and top the coating off every 3 months and all my cars have had perfect hydrophobic properties after 18+ months and I am from Slovakia where we get very bad winters, salt etc. So I am quite surprised that after 3-6 months some of these coatings need decontamination and toppers especially brands like Modesta.
I gotta say I was a bit shocked at the modesta on the hood. Overall everything else on the car seems to be performing very well
Modesta to me seems way more talk than walk.
They all performed equally well vs control, except Modesta on the hood. It was notably worse.
modesta on the hood looks like the control panel
@@manu-sc8vz I think the Ceramic Pro did the best in the water tests. Water leaps off it. Duraslic looks like a close second.
I like Duraslic because it's supposedly oil-resistant. I want to do a motorcycle and there's parts of a motorcycle that get oil from the chain. And road crap. But the only nearby Duraslik detailer is mobile, and I don't want to do an expensive ceramic coating outside in windy, dusty Colorado.
There's a nearby professional enclosed Ceramic Pro shop. I think I'll give them a try.
I'm curious if the maintenance product for Gloss it isn't what's hurting the Modesta coating, seeing as Gloss It looks even worse. Would be interesting to see if Gloss its maintenance product overflowed to Modesta. I have Modesta on my vehicle and can say mine takes a beating and keeps going with 0 issues.
with descale what are you diluting it to. im assuming its diluted just using the bottle for Osha. Noticed a few vids back you used it on cement as well. seemed to work fairly well.
The coating seem to be doing fairly well since the last update. but surprised at how much maintenance has been needed so early on with some brands.
I used it straight. Maintenance is determined on how much you drive and how the car lives. This one lives outside and gets driven a lot. Therefore requires more frequent maintenance. Also I’m doing all the maintenance at the same time to make it as fair as I can. As the test goes one I will go longer periods without maintenance to see the results.
Great Video, I think you recommend an Iron remover on ANY Ceramic coatings as the principal decon step??
You should really try other Angelwax products they are all awesome!
Wish someone would do a durability test with NXTZEN Elite. That stuff is amazing and it’s self healing.
Hard to tell, but what was your assessment of System X Ceramic since I may have someone put this on my vehicle. Thanks in advance
CarPro Descale is a shampoo, it should be diluted. Why are you using it neat? 🤔
Modesta on the hood 😮
I don't understand the point of testing the difference of each coating when you are applying toppers every few months. At that point, you are basically comparing toppers and not the coating.
Hey this is real world testing! This is what every customer does after they get their cars coated 🙃
@Mrjozz011 not true. Ceramic Pro only recommends topper once per year for annual maintenance. This guy is claiming that maintenance washes and topper applications are performed every 2-3 months. That's overkill and defeats the purpose of comparing the actual coating.
@@Mrjozz011 this is "real world" testing based on an owner of an auto spa. Not based on reality of an average consumer.
As the test goes on time will be extended between toppers.
@@ChicagoAutoPros maybe should label each coating with its respective topper. Ceramic pro & _____ topper, etc. Because its not a coating vs coating analysis.
What is the benefit of a coating if you have to put a topper on every 2-3 months? Why not just use a sealant?
In my head I was like, "Man whatever coating that Control sells STINKS."
One minute later: "Wait..."
🤣😂🤣😂🤪
Had a professionally applied (after paint correction) Ceramic Pro Silver applied on a Toyota Avalon Limited 5 years ago. In general, I've been very happy with the results, very low maintenance and still looks great. Now the same installer has switched their entire business to Xpel ceramic coatings. I'm having trouble finding info on the Xpel offering compared to the Ceramic Pro. Any help?
I am in the process of having XPEL ceramic (Fusion) applied to my 2024 F150 Raptor. I chose it over Fireball or System X as the XPEL installer did the PPF and ceramic at the same time in the same shop which makes more sense than doing it at 2 different shops. I will let you know what I think once I pick it up tomorrow morning
@@andytomescu2968 Mine was all done at one time, by one shop, Paint correction, then PPF, then the Ceramic Pro Coating. It' been great but we're likely getting anew vehicle later this year, so thinking ahead. That's when I discovered the shop I used switched from Ceramic Pro to XPEL Ceramic Coatings. I'll be interested to see what you think of yours.
So I picked up my truck yesterday. Firstly, I’m quite unhappy with the XPEL PPF install. Lots of misalignment on the PPF especially on the fenders and headlights. The worst part of it is how yellow the PPF looks next to areas not done in PPF. In terms of ceramic, I was told to not wash the car for 2 weeks so I don’t know how it will bead. My main concern with ceramic is durability. They told me I need to bring it for a $50 annual inspection when they wash it and a basic ceramic coat in order to maintain the 4 year warranty. XPEL also offers a 8 year warranty ceramic now but unfortunately they did not have stock of it.
@@andytomescu2968 Well that sucks, especially after what we pay for these services. The PPF mis-alignment is really an example of an inexperienced installer. Granted the Raptor has some large panels, which would be really hard to apply unless you had lots of experience. Do you know if they used the pre-cut PPF or bulk and cut their own? The Ceramic definitely needs to cure for a couple of weeks, before being washed, matter of fact our installer told us to leave it sit outside in the weather for at least 14 days and preferable 30 days before hand washing. No more automatic washes. The after care is important to the longevity and appearance of the ceramic coating. Don't skip out on them. Each time my has been updated (4 times now) it has looked perfect.
You’re right, it’s definitely inexperience. Turns out 2 separate installers worked my truck. The experienced guy bulk wrapped my hood and it turned out great. The inexperienced guy did the headlights and fenders with templates and each side turned out differently. It’s quite a poor job so I’m going to ask them to redo it. I wish I could upload pics here to show you.
Just get a nice DYI coating, keep your car clean and garaged if possible. It's therapeutic to wax your car, at least for me. There are plenty of OTC products to keep your paint looking beautiful for a fraction of the cost. If you don't enjoy taking care of your car, it really. doesn't matter what you put on it. The video was interesting though.
👍👍👍nice update
Damn is that the same modesta y’all use on your 10k package ?
Did you apply Carpro Descale undiluted?
Yes
See this is where I wish we could get two cars, same yr build date same color, because the clear coats will be and respond different, in my experience guys.
Hey why you guys dont put any carpro coatings in this test? 🤔
This was a 3 part series. He explains that in part 1. Doesn’t specifically mention any name brands though
This is exactly why myself and other installers around me have stopped using Modesta coatings. They constantly clog and lose their self cleaning properties when that happens. Definitely not a good choice of coating for the customer who isn’t going to bring their car in at least once a month for a wash.
Expensive, same looks and durability with 22ple VX1 Pro.
Which topper are you using with SB3?
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So why did all that coating that’s in there leave water spots. That’s the whole point of a coating yes
My 39$ gyeon one evo that me, a noob, put on 7 months ago is holding up better than modesta
How was systemX?
I appreciate the work, but I'm not sure what we're supposed to learn from these tests. All the products on the rear doors/rear quarter panels seem to be performing the best, which makes sense given that they see the least amount of road and UV contamination.
With these types of real world tests, I think you can only fairly compare two products at a time...one product on the left side of the car and one product on the right
If you have watched the entire series you will learn the price of each coating, how to apply, how to properly maintain each coating , and what your customers will experience throughout the coatings life.
Each coating has 3 different placements on the vehicle to see how the performance is on the different areas.
I can't choose! lol
Too bad UD pro+ wasn’t out yet for these tests.
Which one is better for canadian winters
It really depends, we get pretty harsh winters here in Chicago, so these ceramic coating results shouldn't be too far off from your experiences. However, it always depends on the car, if it's garage kept, the color of your car, how you wash it, etc. We hope this video was informative and helps you get one step closer to finding the product that works best for you!
@@ChicagoAutoPros You have given so much time and efforts to help everyone, thanks for making this video. I will be parking outside and just a curious question, ppf wears off in winter time if we go for an automatic car wash. ?
Did anyone get fired during this filming?
Dr Beasleys??
And this is why I love Detailing and professional coatings. There are so many variables that experience really is key. Anyone that thinks they can just jump right into detailing and ceramic coating really should actually get an internship instead.
i see 2 winners, a bunch that are pretty good, and 2 clear failures.
Can you guys fly out to coat my car (please)?
Call our sales guys, and let's see what we can do!
Watching this almost makes me want to stop offering Ceramic Coatings. I mean at only 6 months with maintenance you can see that none of them look like day 1 and they are supposed to last years. It is only 6 months into it! I am really wondering what Chicago Auto Pros thinks of this and what they tell customers for longevity, because none of those are going to hold up to 5+ years
Hi, some one can help me in how be certified by fireball company.
Check out part one of this series. I believe he mentions who to contact bF but I’m sure you can go to their site and call
Xpel doesn't allow you to use anything else. But you are wearing a shirt with an Xpel logo and using other products. What gives?
Love the effort, but I found this overwhelming to the point of not being useful. I don’t need to know the BEST, just give me an informed recommendation.
Conclusion?
You're free to make your own conclusions! We don't want to declare winners or rankings, as this is only our test. The results shown on camera could have been affected by our location, car paint, and the elements. We have done our best to maintain the coatings to the manufacturers' specifications and simply show you the video as unbiased as possible. Hope the video helps you make your decision!
@@ChicagoAutoPros Would have been a better video with some conclusions. I understand why you didn't - you don't want to get people off side, but you cannot be friends with everyone and friends who are only there when times are good aren't really friends anyway!
Modesto and Gtechniq repelled water really well.
@@rva_eray they are the worst😂
DuraSlic with flowX or duracoat for gloss and slickness a winnner👌easy to installed and one coat only back by really hood company expertise in coating in electrinics etc worldwide.
It would make more sense to get x amount of cars and all coat them with different coatings, this test isn’t really a fair comparison since some panels get more exposure to the elements and certain parts of each panel gets different levels of exposure.
10 different cars from 10 different manufacturers that are driven in 10 different conditions
brilliant
@@Pavorish no the same models sitting outside in the parking lot where they would get the same exposure.
Yea they should definitely buy 10 of the same vehicles for our free viewing.
Some people pay way too much for that Modesta trash 😂
Yeah “real world testing” lol
Is this a question?
An average customer does not add toppers every 2-3 months or gets it detail every 2-3 months. The average customer will take that car back to the car wash, let bird poop sit on it or wash it them selfs with dish soap lol.
The real test would have been fallowing up with real customers, but that may hurt you business or the coating companies when that 5yr coating turns out to be only 1 maybe 2yrs.
@@Mrjozz011 our average customer does add topper’s every 2-3 months (we do it for them).
This car sits outside and gets shit on. Only gets washed every two weeks. Our average customer keeps their car in their garage.
It’s as real as it gets. If a customer is going to treat their car like you described, I would not recommend they get a coating.
@@ChicagoAutoPros well you have some great customers and great return business. I do I agree a customer shouldn’t get their car coated if they’re going to take it to a car wash or not maintenance themselves. The real truth is, ceramic coatings are only as good as how you maintenance them.
But from real world experience I seen many owners tell me their car was coated 1yr or 2 yrs ago and that paint is flat that coating has been gone. I would say 65-70% of owners that get their cars coated don’t do what you do to maintain the car, but that’s great your customers maintain their ceramic costing.
How RUDE.
You could have told us which one you liked the best but Nooooooooooooooooo - FFS
Then I would miss out on all the dumb ass comments.
Is it a good sign when I can actually see the separation of products specifically in the driver's door? And what am I supposed to be looking out for? For me Modesta is the winner because the water sheets off. If Modesta is the loser then I need to know what the parameters are for a successful product.
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