Chris, I am very experienced with wood (not so much with guitar making), and was pondering the purchase of one of the available ~$150 plate joining jigs. Watched your video. Bought the tape. Glued up my okvangkol back. Glued up my spruce top. They are very happy plates and I'm a happy guitar maker! Thank you so much for the very simple elegant process.
Yes I agree, thats why I watch youtube videos. There are tons of luthier out there. And everyday I learn new tip and tricks. Its just like an online workshop.
If the joint is tight and properly prepared the tape will have enough clamping pressure to squeeze out any excess glue in the joint. When hot hide glue dries it actually pulls the wood together also. Excess glue on the surface doesn't matter and is always sanded off when thickness sanding the plates. Proper joint preperation is really what's the most important here. Wood surface to surface and no gaps with a fresh wood surface so that oxidation doesn't interfear with the gluing surface.
Terrible sound but great tutorial, thanks. I need to repair a small delicate split panel in two parts, and this method is ideal where clamps are far too big for the job.
@knarf856 Two at a time stacked and book matched. It's a shooting board and is an old common method. There is a youtube by Todd Stock showing how to make one and use it.
There's no problem with your english. I see what you are saying now. I might give that a try sometime. I'm always looking for better ways of doing things and trying out new ideas if I think it will work better. More then one way to skin that cat. One thing nice about the Luthier community is the sharing of ideas and technics.
Perhaps I'm confused as to what you mean by Scrubbing the woods? I was thinking you were talking about scrapping the squeeze out completely off the surface. The tape I'm using is elastic and does pull back giving clamping pressure. That's the nice thing about it.
nice and easy but with this method you can't scrub the woods for eliminating the excess glue. And excess glue will always make some thick layer which always weakens the bond.
Yes I know these, Im a violin maker too, but as you know even hide glue pulls the woods together, if its in thick layer, which can be if its high consistence that thick layer between the wood can cause problems. Altough guitar tops dont have the same direct pressure on like violin tops, they are mostly same still.How 'bout first scrubbing woods and then taping them with strong strech action? Pulling pwr should be about same and as you knw hide glue doesnt need much pressing. Have you tried this?
No, I meant to scrub the two pairs each other after applying the glue for taking out the excess glue on gluing surfaces. Yes I use the same kind of tape, but I still think pulling power of any tape is just not enough for squeezing out the excess glue totally at the moment of clamping. So I suggest rubbing the woods agains each other to squeeze the excess glue maximally, and then appling the tapes. In this way a stronger bond can be achieved. Sorry for my faulty english meanwhile.
I came to me today that if I just turned the boards over and made the tent and turned it 90 degrees that I could just run the glue down the ridge and push it down to clamp it and save the time of unfolding it and the such. Anything to save time and make it easier especially when using HHG.
Hello mr paulick and thank you for this video! i have a question! i have to attach two 0.7mm maple top. could i use some common adhesive tape? like the one used to isolate electric stuff. this can be stretched too but i don't know how it can work! ty best regards
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Chris, I am very experienced with wood (not so much with guitar making), and was pondering the purchase of one of the available ~$150 plate joining jigs. Watched your video. Bought the tape. Glued up my okvangkol back. Glued up my spruce top. They are very happy plates and I'm a happy guitar maker! Thank you so much for the very simple elegant process.
Worked like a charm for my black limba back plates, thanks so much again, Chris!
Thanks! This was very informative for a new luthier (me). Looking forward to putting this into practice, Chris!
Chris thanks for all your great videos,they have great tips!
Thank you for making this video.
Yes I agree, thats why I watch youtube videos. There are tons of luthier out there. And everyday I learn new tip and tricks. Its just like an online workshop.
Great tip Chris, thanks. It surely beats setting up clamps and wedges.
Great tip there Chris.Thanks for sharing it.
I use this too, Chris, except that I use Stew-Mac binding tape. works GREAT!
Thank you. I was fond of rope and wedges but this system is easier and faster
Good old school way!
Nicely done, Chris -
If the joint is tight and properly prepared the tape will have enough clamping pressure to squeeze out any excess glue in the joint. When hot hide glue dries it actually pulls the wood together also. Excess glue on the surface doesn't matter and is always sanded off when thickness sanding the plates. Proper joint preperation is really what's the most important here. Wood surface to surface and no gaps with a fresh wood surface so that oxidation doesn't interfear with the gluing surface.
Great video Chris!!!
Terrible sound but great tutorial, thanks. I need to repair a small delicate split panel in two parts, and this method is ideal where clamps are far too big for the job.
I will try this at home! Thanks for sharing.
@knarf856 Two at a time stacked and book matched. It's a shooting board and is an old common method. There is a youtube by Todd Stock showing how to make one and use it.
There's no problem with your english. I see what you are saying now. I might give that a try sometime. I'm always looking for better ways of doing things and trying out new ideas if I think it will work better. More then one way to skin that cat. One thing nice about the Luthier community is the sharing of ideas and technics.
That's way too easy... thanks I like it.
Perhaps I'm confused as to what you mean by Scrubbing the woods? I was thinking you were talking about scrapping the squeeze out completely off the surface.
The tape I'm using is elastic and does pull back giving clamping pressure. That's the nice thing about it.
nice and easy but
with this method you can't scrub the woods for eliminating the excess glue. And excess glue will always make some thick layer which always weakens the bond.
Yes I know these, Im a violin maker too, but as you know even hide glue pulls the woods together, if its in thick layer, which can be if its high consistence that thick layer between the wood can cause problems. Altough guitar tops dont have the same direct pressure on like violin tops, they are mostly same still.How 'bout first scrubbing woods and then taping them with strong strech action? Pulling pwr should be about same and as you knw hide glue doesnt need much pressing. Have you tried this?
No, I meant to scrub the two pairs each other after applying the glue for taking out the excess glue on gluing surfaces.
Yes I use the same kind of tape, but I still think pulling power of any tape is just not enough for squeezing out the excess glue totally at the moment of clamping. So I suggest rubbing the woods agains each other to squeeze the excess glue maximally, and then appling the tapes. In this way a stronger bond can be achieved. Sorry for my faulty english meanwhile.
I also like your inlaying videos, but I think ı dont have that kind of patience for inlay work. You must really have the free time :)
I came to me today that if I just turned the boards over and made the tent and turned it 90 degrees that I could just run the glue down the ridge and push it down to clamp it and save the time of unfolding it and the such. Anything to save time and make it easier especially when using HHG.
This method works well
isnt the hhg brittle for center seam joint ?
where'd did you get the claro walnut. I have black walnut i'm using now, but i want to see the subtle tone differences
Hello mr paulick and thank you for this video! i have a question! i have to attach two 0.7mm maple top. could i use some common adhesive tape? like the one used to isolate electric stuff. this can be stretched too but i don't know how it can work! ty best regards
thank you
Thanks.
@knarf856 Look up "Making a Luthiers Shooting Board " by MDLuthier
Great stuff.... Turn off your air conditioner so we hear you better.
That's a very noisy place . .
Thank you