Does it matter that the cable is bundled up there versus run straight through an attic? Would there be different readings - good or bad for either? Also when purchasing cat5e or cat6 how does one tell if it is quality or not? Is there info on packaging that would answer this? Thanks for the video.
Hello Rick. Yes, there are different readings if you bundle up Ethernet. The cross-talk interference increases. Don't use zip ties. Instead, use velcro straps. Bundling up Ethernet should be kept to a minimum. Where you do bundle it up should be in a figure 8 pattern. Typically bundles are found at the switch end to accommodate adds/changes/moves. The figure 8 pattern minimizes alien crosstalk interference. Quality Ethernet can be difficult to discern when purchasing. The basics are it should be pure copper; and solid pure copper for permanent runs. The cable should be stamped "Compliant with ANSI/TIA 568.2-C" or "ANSI/TIA 568.2-D". Well-documented Ethernet cable is more likely to be higher quality. Sample Certification tests should be present on the specification sheet or readily available upon request.
Hello! Not this exact test, no. That said, you will get a bandwidth test that should serve you well enough. If you have a contract/customer demanding actual Certification, then software bandwidth testing won't be enough.
Hello. Yes, it is called a BERT or Bit Error Rate tester. Essentially, it is a dedicated stand-alone bandwidth tester that you hook up at both ends of a cable run and let run for a day or so and come back and check. You can experiment by turning on AC motors and other high EMI/RFI devices in the environment and then checking on the BERT tester to see if any one of them caused bad packets. Advanced managed Ethernet switches can also give you a heads-up on this by reporting bad packets, but those are expensive switches. The Ubiquiti UniFi switch line is a good source there. Stand-alone BERT testers, a decent one, will run as much as $3,000. Check out Softing. The Fluke DSX Certification tester you see us using here only takes a snap-shot of the cable that compares the cable quality and termination quality against the TIA standard.
how about using HIKVISION CAT6 AWG23 UTP cable? what is your insight regarding this brand of utp cable, im planning to use it on my networking project. thanks.
Hello! I have not worked with that brand of cable before, so I cannot offer an opinion. I would be sure it is solid copper Ethernet, and I would also heavily research two main things: Insulated conductor diameter (copper + insulation) and the overall cable jacket diameter (cable OD). Without those two critical pieces of information, you will find it difficult to select an appropriate 8P8C (aka RJ45) plug that will fit, unless HIKVISION has already pre-validated a certain plug to work with their cable like trueCABLE does. Hope this helps!
Can you provide the key points to test when buying network cables? How to do it what to look at and what are the parameters that are important. It would be interesting to know
Hello and good question! I wrote a blog some time back about what to look for. See the information found in www.truecable.com/blogs/cable-academy/best-ethernet-cable-for-gaming for a good run-down on cable quality. Of course, when it comes to testing Ethernet cable nothing will beat having a Fluke Versiv Cable Analyzer around to be sure the cable will perform as it should. Generally I will strip 165ft from a spool or box and test using the permanent link adapters and correct Category test. The 165ft is the minimum recommended length to test per Fluke Networks for the DSX-8000. Secondarily you can also use a Fluke LinkIQ cable qualifier which costs considerably less if the DSX is too pricey. The LinkIQ is not an actual certification instrument but it comes pretty close for the money!
Hello! Lower IL (Insertion Loss) is definitely better, but the question is are higher dB numbers better or not, I think? For any given parameter like IL, a lower dB number is WORSE, not better. dB measurement values are an inverse relationship. I hope that clears that up!
@@trueCABLE No sir If I insert something inline and I have a 3db loss that equates to half the power/signal is lost. I think perhaps your thinking in RF terms of rejection and in that case higher would be better.
Thanks for your comment Henry. Definitely a good idea! We highlight more reasons to use solid copper Ethernet over CCA in this video if you're interested in checking it out! th-cam.com/video/m4Lb7Pmj6Hg/w-d-xo.html
Good Video ! Thanks Don !
Thank you for the feedback Jason!😁
Does it matter that the cable is bundled up there versus run straight through an attic? Would there be different readings - good or bad for either? Also when purchasing cat5e or cat6 how does one tell if it is quality or not? Is there info on packaging that would answer this? Thanks for the video.
Hello Rick. Yes, there are different readings if you bundle up Ethernet. The cross-talk interference increases. Don't use zip ties. Instead, use velcro straps. Bundling up Ethernet should be kept to a minimum. Where you do bundle it up should be in a figure 8 pattern. Typically bundles are found at the switch end to accommodate adds/changes/moves. The figure 8 pattern minimizes alien crosstalk interference. Quality Ethernet can be difficult to discern when purchasing. The basics are it should be pure copper; and solid pure copper for permanent runs. The cable should be stamped "Compliant with ANSI/TIA 568.2-C" or "ANSI/TIA 568.2-D". Well-documented Ethernet cable is more likely to be higher quality. Sample Certification tests should be present on the specification sheet or readily available upon request.
Is it possible to do this test by connecting the cable to a laptop and running a software?
Hello! Not this exact test, no. That said, you will get a bandwidth test that should serve you well enough. If you have a contract/customer demanding actual Certification, then software bandwidth testing won't be enough.
@@trueCABLE thank you
is there a device that determines if an ethernet got an interference?
Hello. Yes, it is called a BERT or Bit Error Rate tester. Essentially, it is a dedicated stand-alone bandwidth tester that you hook up at both ends of a cable run and let run for a day or so and come back and check. You can experiment by turning on AC motors and other high EMI/RFI devices in the environment and then checking on the BERT tester to see if any one of them caused bad packets. Advanced managed Ethernet switches can also give you a heads-up on this by reporting bad packets, but those are expensive switches. The Ubiquiti UniFi switch line is a good source there. Stand-alone BERT testers, a decent one, will run as much as $3,000. Check out Softing. The Fluke DSX Certification tester you see us using here only takes a snap-shot of the cable that compares the cable quality and termination quality against the TIA standard.
how about using HIKVISION CAT6 AWG23 UTP cable? what is your insight regarding this brand of utp cable, im planning to use it on my networking project. thanks.
Hello! I have not worked with that brand of cable before, so I cannot offer an opinion. I would be sure it is solid copper Ethernet, and I would also heavily research two main things: Insulated conductor diameter (copper + insulation) and the overall cable jacket diameter (cable OD). Without those two critical pieces of information, you will find it difficult to select an appropriate 8P8C (aka RJ45) plug that will fit, unless HIKVISION has already pre-validated a certain plug to work with their cable like trueCABLE does. Hope this helps!
Can you provide the key points to test when buying network cables? How to do it what to look at and what are the parameters that are important. It would be interesting to know
Hello and good question! I wrote a blog some time back about what to look for. See the information found in www.truecable.com/blogs/cable-academy/best-ethernet-cable-for-gaming for a good run-down on cable quality. Of course, when it comes to testing Ethernet cable nothing will beat having a Fluke Versiv Cable Analyzer around to be sure the cable will perform as it should. Generally I will strip 165ft from a spool or box and test using the permanent link adapters and correct Category test. The 165ft is the minimum recommended length to test per Fluke Networks for the DSX-8000. Secondarily you can also use a Fluke LinkIQ cable qualifier which costs considerably less if the DSX is too pricey. The LinkIQ is not an actual certification instrument but it comes pretty close for the money!
So you like to see more insertion loss ????
Lower is better not higher
Hello! Lower IL (Insertion Loss) is definitely better, but the question is are higher dB numbers better or not, I think? For any given parameter like IL, a lower dB number is WORSE, not better. dB measurement values are an inverse relationship. I hope that clears that up!
@@trueCABLE
No sir
If I insert something inline and I have a 3db loss that equates to half the power/signal is lost.
I think perhaps your thinking in RF terms of rejection and in that case higher would be better.
I just avoid CCA
Thanks for your comment Henry. Definitely a good idea! We highlight more reasons to use solid copper Ethernet over CCA in this video if you're interested in checking it out! th-cam.com/video/m4Lb7Pmj6Hg/w-d-xo.html